Do NOT Buy Shadows of Change | Review

[@iainballas]

"But, does anyone re-play the same campaign over and over again...?" Every empire player: "SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS!"

[@cryptosporidium01]

or me with kroq gar 😂been a fan of that dude since junior school

[@Malus1531]

This Empire players and elector counts meme is played out

[@chaotix7275]

Me but with Nurgle. Speaking of which, im genuinelly worried about Nurgle, Empire and the Dawi in the next DLC. Something tells me CAs gonna butcher them.

[@R3GARnator]

People who play like that really miss out IMO. They'll never know what it's like to have good infantry, for one.

[@kdude1575]

Got two more for ya, Khorne: "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD, SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!!!!!" Brettonia: "FOR ZE LADY!!! REPANSE DE LYONESSE!!!"

[@DPD1]

It's amazing how badly CA have dropped the ball on this. They had the warhammer community, a living pile of money who are used to being treated like dirt and managed to lose their confidence. It's not just greed, it's incredible stupidity.

[@slobodanvesela4149]

Must be SEGA's decision actually

[@johnhamilton6768]

I told them to take my money not r@pe my wallet something these tools in management can't seem to differentiate!

[@Eclipsed_Embers]

to be fair... this amount of resistance to being parted with money is very strange for the Warhammer Community, they probably never saw it coming. A fanbase normally willing to part with £55 for a single Mutalith, £32.50 for 10 Tzaangors, £30 for a single Cockatrice, £30 for the Blue Scribes, and £22.50 for the Changeling itself suddenly refuses to part with £20 for the Changeling *and* the Blue Scribes *and* several Mutaliths *and* several groups of Tzaangors (far more than 10 in a unit) *and* several Cockatrices. and that's not even considering the 2 extra factions. if GW themselves had tried pulling this people would probably be throwing out £100+ for this stuff. I've seen some people pointing out that worries over greed isn't even why people aren't buying. people are used to greed. they buy at greedy prices all the time. they buy from GW. they buy from EA and Ubisoft. but that's because we know those companies are greedy, we expect greed from them. it's a problem from CA because CA used to be cheaper, people have relatively recent memory of CA not being greedy, and then they suddenly rose the prices to have a tiny fraction of the greed surrounding everything else, it was far too sudden so it got called out and rejected. if there'd been a more gradual shift, if the days of £8 Lord Packs were 5-6 years away instead of only just over 2, I doubt the community would have had even a tiny fraction of this outrage. the base level of constant anger and negativity that's surrounded game 3 since it's release likely didn't help matters

[@Dragonage2ftw]

Game is climbing the Steam charts. Doesn't sound like they've lost anything.

[@carolean282]

@@johnhamilton6768 I honestly see absolutely no problem with the price, I gauge if something is worth the money by seeing if I get an hour s worth of content for one Euro, so If a game retails at 60 Euro I'd like to play it for a minimum of 60 hours. Since I can comfortably spend 20h+ on one of the THREE lord's that would put the value of the dlc to less then 50 cents for an hour of fun..... Wich to me seems like a fair deal

[@Tomezilla514]

Heard about your review on Legend's most recent stream and needed to check it out. Thanks for taking the time to make this scathing review and for being brutally honest on behalf of the Total War community. I hope CA will listen and do better, but at this point we're all so jaded aren't we? Take the $25 I would have spent on this half-assed DLC because I'd say you've put more heart into this video than CA is putting into treating their fans well.

[@ogo5516]

giga chad actually paid him in the DLC price xD

[@AkhilMulpuru]

I really hope he can show this to CA through their partnership channels and its taken in a constructive way so we can get the game we want, they can get their money and its a win win

[@danbstep]

Love you for that man, If I had $25 I'd do the same

[@DeadLikeMeJ]

Wow, this is awesome what you did ! good on you :)

[@TheMakushimirian]

So wait, let me get this straight, you have some issues with the dlc so you dont want to pay the price for it, yet you pay the same price for a comment you could make for free. Either for the irony of it or not, thats just stupid reasoning. I personally got the dlc and have legitimately 0 clues why people are so up in arms against it. Dont wanna buy it? Sure go ahead, you do you. But why are people fighting so tooth and nail against it?

[@nathanstruble2177]

"Does anyone play the same campaign over and over again?" Me: Summon the Elector Counts!!

[@christopherhutchens8077]

For the lady & the military industrial complex

[@nerovarwulfenbach]

The world will drown in blood!

[@madmaxizor]

"My puppets dance..."

[@sydalg95]

Yeah I felt a bit stung on that quote lmao I replay Luthor H campaigns all the time.

[@odindave6506]

"I'm gonna grind their bones. I'm gonna burn down dere towns and cities. I'm gonna pile 'em up inna big fire and roast 'em. I'm gonna bash 'eads, break faces and jump up and down on da bits dat are left"

[@lefteris7354]

For those that say "I have a job so i dont care about 20$", its not what its about. Its about not letting greedy devs enstablish this price as a default.

[@leudast1215]

choose the hill upon which you will 'die' for your principles with care. many on this earth claim it's not about X, it's about setting an example or setting a precedent and it rarely ends well.

[@daveb7049]

All three upcoming DLC together are going to cost more than the base game for significantly less content.

[@HauntingSpectre]

I make 38$/hr and when I saw the sale and clicked open the Ad just to check the price and saw 35$ (Canadian) I was like Yeaaaah hard pass. I'll be honest, if it was 25$ Canadian, I'd have probably grabbed it, but jesus christ it's almost a full priced game at 35$. Been hearing the community about the "25$ is too much" all month and forgot that it's all people in the UK/USA.

[@murranji3705]

@@HauntingSpectre yep canada and australia get screwed over on pricing all the time. That'll learn em colonies!

[@charlesman8722]

Main steam games are 70 buck for a lease. To late for that

[@dracowar6]

So that everyone understands what happening at CA : The main dev team that created the warhammer games, is working on a multiplayer arena shooter called "Hyenas". Only a handful of devs are working on TWW3 now. Literally a single dev on bug fixes, and he's got other responsibilities too.

[@rustycrowbar4250]

Hope they come back crying after thier Goofy ass shooter flops

[@willfeen]

Thank you for clarifying. With such a low investment in WH3, they can’t expect profits from WH3. I hope Hyenas tanks

[@Lenn869]

that´s almost as bad as tf2, which is 16 years old lol

[@dustrockblues7567]

This really is a Destiny 2 moment

[@climax050]

Wait no shot this is actually what’s happening. I was wondering what happened to the DLCs after we got bangers like vampire coast, tomb kings, the wood elf and beastmen reworks. Those were so cool and unique and we haven’t got anything like them since, I thought they were using a different studio or something not essentially removed all the people who made those bangers

[@Thegrifter69]

I agree with this message so much that I want to give you money because of it. Honestly, so many of the points you’ve made can be applied to so many major gaming studios right now. It shouldn’t be too much to ask to just have, you know, good content that works and doesn’t bankrupt you.

[@andreasammaritano6116]

you just gave 2 dollars to someone who is complaining for 20,just saying

[@Thegrifter69]

@@andreasammaritano6116 yes

[@keithemerson7662]

​@@andreasammaritano6116That's how easy it can be.

[@dagewastaken7236]

I really want to use the Wendigos, but I'm going with the community with this one. Need changes from the development team.

[@ThasisKidSamurie]

Saaaaame, I want to but CA needs to learn their lesson, I won’t be buying

[@MadisonRamanamabangbang]

Pirate it

[@bigsadge747]

wait for the hero of a modder that will add these units for free

[@charlesman8722]

Even though it’s thee same amount of content as normal dlc. Spoiled child

[@Screamingmanta]

@@charlesman8722 consoom

[@dococ3272]

I was just like you friend, they were the chosen ones. I bought every single dlc as it came out over the years. Even chaos dwarves. Each person has likely payed hundreds of dollars for these games and expansions, hundreds of thousands have likely paid this much, Shutting it down like they threaten will end them.. I dare them.

[@Emudown]

Yeah. I was wary because they dropped support for 3 kingdoms. If they do this with WH3 there will be no way i ever buy their future games on release or full price.

[@marcusbergman6116]

@@Emudown If they drop WH3 I will never touch another new CA game ever again. It's that simple. And I got every DLC they released for both 1, 2 and 3 so far (except this one).

[@T0m4h4wk3d]

Lmao what a turbo cringey comment

[@dococ3272]

@@T0m4h4wk3d lol giga cringey name.

[@T0m4h4wk3d]

OK @@dococ3272 whatever you say

[@kirkcrawford5091]

Worth noting that SEGA’s stock price has more then doubled since 2019. Company has been making money hand over fist

[@AzureRoxe]

Let's also not forget they have a game they already HEAVILY milk while adding almost zero content, Phantasy Star Online 2: New Genesis.

[@legitplayin6977]

I mean that’s capitalism for you

[@burzslaw]

Stock prices don't show company's profit

[@kirkcrawford5091]

@@burzslaw when your stock value has consistently gone up to the tune of doubling in value in a 4 year timespan yes it does. Had the price rocketed up at some point and then dropped due to lack of actual profitability then yes you’d be correct. Has not been the case here though. Their increase in profits has obviously kept up with market valuation in this case.

[@Lenn869]

without capitalism useless time wasters like vidya wouldn´t exist@@legitplayin6977

[@2Scribble]

The changeling is, basically, the Skaven vs. Everyone Else problem from TWW2 all over again And they're charging for the FLC lord And they've practically doubled the price cost And they're full of shit

[@The-Real-JD]

And fucking threatened us

[@erikvannik5208]

Also, mother Ostankya's campaign isn't even finished which is a part of the DLC

[@The-Real-JD]

@@erikvannik5208 wdym not finnished ?

[@erikvannik5208]

@@The-Real-JD Like, she feels like unfinished campaign, her armies are lead by boyars, why she starts at Naggarong ? Shouldn't she be protector of Kislev's nature, like wood elves for example, she is just feels so out of touch

[@tarmairon431]

What Skaven vs everyone else problem? You mean DLC content?

[@SaltyRocksPew]

so, with multiplayer balancing, why don't they just, you know, make seperate values for single and multiplayer. or PVP changes seperate from PVE. Like Elden Ring.

[@serdash6548]

Cause that'd take work

[@AzureRoxe]

Any game worth a damn SHOULD do this. But they won't, because it requires extra work and they want to do LESS work.

[@BrianStuf]

because that would make sense

[@davidnayr301]

I think they do that though. Sort of. I seem to remember a patch note changing the points cost of some marauder unit, but not the campaign gold cost. I haven't played in a while though, I may be very wrong.

[@johanmolander1246]

They're probably worried that people will have a hard time adjusting to the new stats and will make mistakes which frustrates them and thurns them away. And as mentioned above, it requires effort.

[@Pemmont107]

You, Sir, have earnt a subscription. I agree 110%, especially in regards to impact of cost of living and how insane CA are to pick *now* as the right time to raise prices. As a side-note, the part about playing all night to avoid going to bed resonates big time: I used to avoid sleeping until the last possible moment, because my panic disorder was so bad I'd literally fear dying in my sleep. TW: Warhammer was one of the ways I coped, and seeing it turned into what it is today is terrible.

[@nagashoes5530]

Just wanted to add. For the people that make the argument that it's still "a lot of time for that money". But you shouldn't look at it like "price per time" but "price per content". By design Warhammer is made to take a long time. But just because, compared to other titles like the Resident Evil games or Detroit Become human, you can get more time out of it, that itself doesn't justify this price. If that was the deciding factor then any game with replay value or a long gameplay loop would cost more, but they don't. Even within CA's internal pricing this decision doesn't make sense, even if they account for inflation. It's almost half the price of the base game for nowhere near half the content. Chaos dwarfs were SOMEWHAT understandable, not even them but it was bearable, but this is ridiculous.

[@denizseyhan1053]

It is not about the money little Timmy, it is about sending a message.

[@SuperDoggy99]

I'll only buy this if it's 75% off, which means never--because CA will never discount it that much, not if their new greedy ethics remain in play. This franchise is "dead" to me. And I'm their cash cow, fanboy audience. It's such a shame that they went the way of EA, Blizzard, etc. They haven't fixed a damn thing in months . They deserve to eat their hats on this one.

[@nitegamer7272]

Lets put this into perspective. Back when dlc was 8 pounds as he said lets say 75% of players were buying it for that price. lets take this out of 100 to make this simple. 75 multiplied by 8 equals 600 in total. Remember that 600. Now the price is 20 pounds. Now they are getting maybe 25 of that 100. 25 multiplied by 20 equals 500. Most of the rest of the player base might now buy the dlc for a discounted price lets say they discount it down to the 8 pounds again, 50 multiplied by 8 equals 400. Now add the 500 and 400 to get 900. So the same number of people buying the product now earns thirty percent more money. 600 for one low price that most of the fans are happy to pay, OR 900 and they have to deal with angry comments. THAT is why they are doing it, pure greed. They don't care about their loyal customers and only care about squeezing every cent they can out of the fans.

[@bibby659]

Most of the time whenever I hear from the company about how people are harassing the devs... I honestly feel like its people actually harassing the suits and they are just saying that people are harassing the staff and devs so they can stop getting hated on. Its typically always a tactic they do to get pity or some shit to make the hate go away or to turn the community against itself by making people hate one another regardless of whether they are actually saying anything against the devs. Mind you, the only time I've seen a whole community turn fully against the corporate fucks was in the Devil May Cry series. Literally turned its community against it entirely overnight.

[@inductivegrunt94]

Yeah, I agree with you here. I won't buy the DLC until the price hopefully changes. I really want to use the awesome giant Wendigos, but not enough to pay $25 for the worst DLC in terms of price to content ratio.

[@ZachHow3456]

About five years ago I’d say I saw Rome total war on the App Store. I’ve always wanted to play an rts but I didn’t have a pc so Rome was introduction to the entire genre. I absolutely loved despite never getting fat and I wanted more. After a couple years of saving I got a pc this may and the first game I got was Warhammer lll. Your videos were a big help starting the game along with Zerkovich and Cody and it just pains see CA destroy it.

[@christopherclayton5500]

This is perhaps a weird way to feel, but I wouldn't mind the $25 cost if they didn't lock units behind it.

[@SuperDoggy99]

We appreciate the honesty, Damneders. Nice job!

[@djn6962]

Everyone always treats the campaign as a purely single player experience… I primarily play with my friend group, so campaign balance is still very important to me/us.

[@shmekelfreckles8157]

Seems like a you thing

[@PNarbz123]

You're an extreme minority, sorry to say bro. If something is fun at the cost of being overpowered, sign me up.

[@djn6962]

@@PNarbz123 extreme minority? Where do you get your data? If a game is designed with multiplayer campaigns in mind, it should also be balanced with multiplayer campaigns in mind…

[@thevoxdeus]

The vast majority of TWH3 players are playing immortal empires, solo. The story campaign, the MP campaign, the MP battles, all that stuff is great for the 5% who do it, but if the value isn't there for the core customer then there's no money to support those other things. Anything that makes SP Immortal Empires less compelling is either a mistake or mistake-adjacent.

[@djn6962]

@@thevoxdeus just the numbers you list are completely off. While only 14% of players play online multiplayer battles, that doesn’t include the number of players who play multiplayer campaign. Which many streamers do. I watch and partake in a large number of multiplayer games. You can just see the number of lobbies open. The idea that you wouldn’t balance all aspects of your game is just dumb. Why would you include game modes if you weren’t intending on balancing/supporting them? Brain dead…

[@Pandarian300]

"PREMIUM DLC" nuff said after the last few weeks of this shitstorm, its speak volumes how hard CA has fallen.

[@Tylam11]

Total war takes such a hardcore computer to run well. I think increasing the wealth gap more for this game is a mistake for online game play.

[@kiwiconephoneshome]

yeah my friends had to refund the game because they couldn't run it with decent pcs so i've just been stuck playing it on my own

[@camd9886]

Game is a pile shit optimization wise. I have a 3080 can run Baldur's Gate III and most other new triple AAA titles at high settings with no problems. This game crashes every 20 mins or so

[@wasa4616]

@@camd9886 Baldur's Gate 3 doesn't also have thousands of units and is also isometric, I'm a game dev and any isometric game will run better than 3rd person. And most triple-a-games are poor ports.

[@Klongu_Da_Bongu]

I have a top tier processor, but a bit weaker graphics card... It runs so bad though. I have games more intense running fine at 60. So I have great ram, a great processor... Is 8 gb of VRAM on my gfx not enough? The game even recommends ultra settings and then... Well...

[@camd9886]

@@wasa4616 You're right about 3D vs isometric, that wasn't intended as a direct comparison. I moreso was trying to say, most contemporary games on PC that are triple AAA regardless of whether they are ports or not run way better then this game on my hardware and it's very noticeable that this game crashes like crazy. Do you think that I'm wrong about this game being poorly optimized? What would you consider an adequate comparison on PC? Bannerlord, other Total War games? All run way better then this one imo.

[@darkranger116]

So we waited over a year to pay 40% of the base price for a re-skinned cauldron, a re-skinned dragon, and a lord that copy pastes assets that already exist in the game. *So CA, you have chosen, death.*

[@SuiSideex]

Also all other units are reskins too, so nothing new here and not that amount of work, and they dont even wanted to give just more reskins like tzengors with for example great weapons, who cares i guess? XDD theres should be atleast 20 units, even if they are just gonna be reskins like those lions, for me its still better than just only disgusting 3-4 units per faction, LMAO.

[@Razielts1]

The FLC lord truth bomb was heavy. I completely forgot about this fact. Drycha, Rakarth etc... Rakarth is an FLC lord that even has a famous VA. 15:35 yes! keep talking about the bugs! Price increases when the game is a buggy mess is preposterous. 21:20 Create a bug fixing team, this would benefit fantasy and historical, since making older games better and wh3 too, would make everyone happy. Since they clearly dont want to make the sequels that the historical fans are asking for. 900 employees, what are they doing? Poor management clearly. Clear misuse of resources. 22:30 Baldur's gate 3 is a breath of fresh air, one of the few games that were released with the " Feature complete" seal of approval.

[@lelciones]

I'm with you on this matter. I will not buy this one.

[@lorussuliss]

I'm just glad that Larian had come out and set an example for how things should be done with Baldur's Gate 3. You're right about the disjointed psycho shareholders. Unfortunately, good companies are exceptions pretty much in every industry nowadays.

[@GameRecorder123]

Having the game in development for half a decade and still release a buggy unfinished mess like they did with Divinity 2? Oh yeah, Larian is the studio all studios should look upon

[@nitegamer7272]

Lets put this into perspective. Back when dlc was 8 pounds as he said lets say 75% of players were buying it for that price. lets take this out of 100 to make this simple. 75 multiplied by 8 equals 600 in total. Remember that 600. Now the price is 20 pounds. Now they are getting maybe 25 of that 100. 25 multiplied by 20 equals 500. Most of the rest of the player base, simplified to say 50%, might now buy the dlc for a discounted price lets say they discount it down to the 8 pounds again, 50 multiplied by 8 equals 400. Now add the 500 and 400 to get 900. So the same number of people buying the product now earns thirty percent more money. 600 for one low price that most of the fans are happy to pay, OR 900 and they have to deal with angry comments. THAT is why they are doing it, pure greed. They don't care about their loyal customers and only care about squeezing every cent they can out of the fans.

[@GrateWhyteWyntr]

Been saying this the whole time. I don't care if it's on sale or for free don't want it. Besides the Changeling he looks cool still he's not worth $25 USD.

[@Shagrat65]

I haven't felt this lukewarm for a DLC since Queen and the Crone but at least the price was bearable.

[@donutrock2132]

Thank you for the honest upfront review and opinion. Please keep doing what you be doing.

[@matthewayne81]

Not really interested in this dlc. Maybe when it's 50-75% off I'll consider it.

[@gongazi]

Inflation has gone up 15% since the introduction of Warhammer 1 in 2016

[@Nerazmus]

And you are also getting 3 lords with unique campaigns instead of just 2 with no/small mechanics.

[@KunitoroVT]

Don’t tell me what to do, I’m a Destiny player so I’ll get ripped off as I please

[@peterolson2407]

Hearing you talk about BG3 while Disco Elysium music is playing makes me very happy. My first character is based heavily on our boy Harrier DuBois

[@paulholroyd8515]

Thank you for the video, you are clearly passionate. I do enjoy Warhammer 2 and 3 but after the statement I did leave a negative review. I’ll watch the new lords via KZbinrs but I will definitely not be buying it at this price.

[@samuelmitchell1700]

The most disapointing thing is that CA kept the trend of "this dlc character is the coolest, most unique, badass character in the game, oh and theres the other guy" but did it with 2 lords, i wouldnt even be that upset if all 3 were the most op, fun lords in the game, but CA decided to make the changling dlc with cathay and kislev as after thoughts

[@gabrielespinal2608]

I feel like CA is trying to make up for the sales of the previous games now not needed for IE.

[@BloodwyrmWildheart]

They're just funneling the money into Hyenas and Pharaoh, both of which are dead-on-arrival.

[@lexmats6709]

I didnt even buy the chaos dwarf dlc. Passing on this is cakewalk.

[@danielgloyd4529]

1:48 I have 1000s of combined hours in this trilogy. I constantly replay the same campaigns. Skaven, Dwarves, Lizardmen, and Skarsnik(I'm not much of a fan of other greenskin factions, I just like gobbos). I could easily do an opening strategy for most of these factions Legendary Lords just from memory. The randomness of what factions succeed and fail, and the vastness of the map keep future playthroughs fresh. Ikit for instance. I almost always take the lands from the beastmen 1st. But then I might push up to Bretonia 1 game. I might push towards the Dwarves in another. I have even just sailed for Lustria and made friends with Skrolk before and just ignored everything near Skavenblight. The possibilities for the mid and end game is near limitless.

[@inhaledterror79right54]

im in the US and they charging $25 for this dogshit, and they had the adacity to put it on a 10% sale as if its even remotely better

[@stp_lukas1474]

But does anyone re-play rhe same campaign over and over again Dawi players: FOR KARAZ ANKOR

[@jimmynicol7942]

I generally don't subscribe to new people often, since I'm a creature of habit, but you have earned my respect and measly subscription with this video. Keep up the good work, mate :)

[@franklinmariduena]

Love how you mentioned the game has been what you turned to in difficult times. Everybody has up's and down's, and all of us die hard fans of this game have inevitably had one point whether we played the game for hours on end to seek shelter from life's difficulties. Greeding the game into the grave means it won't be there for my next tough time, and that's why I wish CA would've treated us fairly.

[@MrBacon4321]

The main thing i wanna see is to be able to customize more Lords, like when we give them a weapon it actually changes the weapon they use, just cosmeticly of course(you still get the buffs and such), but i love that mechanic, customisable lords would be an amazing update

[@skupipup]

Good rant. One tiny correction, you mentioned the financial statements and said statements reveal that CA haven't paid dividends in 2022 or 2021. But that just means the suits are getting more and shareholders aren't. Costs may be up but they're clearly not going towards TWWH3.

[@Lothi66]

I get that people are annoyed with the price-to-content ratio but if this keeps up you'll kill the game you like

[@brooksroberson9861]

i mean its 3 lords instead of 2 i sont see the reason 20 dollars is alot for a large dlc that hase given us more then the usual

[@Nerazmus]

And all 3 of them have actually unique mechanics and campaign.

[@brooksroberson9861]

like yeah i dont get it why is everyone is so mad about this with inflation and were getting three lords instead of two with much needed/wanted units it makes no sense to me@@Nerazmus

[@thehonestaspy102]

First of all thank you so much for having the bravery to open up about the dark place you were in and I'm so glad this game helped you get through it, I can relate my friend and I share your hopes the game may yet be saved but it will all depend on Thrones of Decay. Honestly the generous and passionate support we had in TWW2 feels a distant memory, the price is up and the contents down, FLC is far stingier and they're handing out barely any patches

[@swtehdiplomat]

Crazy to think that just over 2 years ago (in July of 2021) we got 2 Lords, and a Free one regardless; and it was $10 USD. Now it's $25, and the free one was rolled into the DLC...

[@Shinekage]

Ostankya becomes even worse when you realize she is just Baba Yaga without her iconic bird leg house because CA didnt want to animate it.

[@QhairulHafizul]

20 pound? if converted in my country currency its myr117.68?? but here in malaysia it cost myr79.00..6.57 pound expensive ??

[@megamiaouh1]

Congrats, whoever decides regional pricing decided not to price hike in your country, hopefully it stays that way.

[@liamhosking4267]

The £20 aint so bad if this dlc had enough content. But compared to warhammer 2 dlc its no where near good enogh to justify the price. Heres less stuff than before more money please haha

[@matthewmantey5185]

As a example right now with the steam strategy sale going on till the 4th of September you can get the Homeworld Remastered Collection and the Homeworld Deserts of Kharak Deluxe Editions for the same price as this DLC.

[@stevecassidy9019]

HUGE props to speaking up like this. You are a very small channel and its obvious you know full well that this could and likely will kill your relationship with CA, early access etc. You have everything to lose and are still speaking up for the community, it doesn't go unnoticed and hopefully others can see that and you get even more support in whatever you continue to do.

[@nathanstruble2177]

But as to the actual DLC and the price, before these kind of DLC's cost me half an hour of my life and gave me maybe 100 hours of entertainment. This will cost an entire hour and honestly none of these factions are ones I enjoy, so max this will get me 30 hours while I try to make Cathay feel less blah. If the math for you personally shakes out differently by all means buy it, but for me this just isn't valuable enough to justify.

[@viktordalberg565]

I was 100% on board with you but I just got a notification that I won the giveaway on the official Total War discord, so guess I get to play without giving them money xD

[@Roaddawg1705]

As someone who’s hours in WH3 have gone down from playing other games, I won’t be changing that anytime soon. I usually enjoy modding the game too because the fan base can make better decisions and better content than CA themselves. I do hope the gaming companies will take notes from Larian Studios, FromSoft, and all of these are respectable companies and release content that we can both enjoy and a price we can respect.

[@johnnyboy6797]

Great review but I have slightly different predictions for what CA will do. I think they will keep the price the same but push the DLC team to add a bit more content to try and justify it. TWW3 is the only game actively making them money rn so I really don't think they will ever shelve it. However by pushing the already small team to make more content in the same timeframe will likely make the problems with bugs worse as no one has any time to fix them and CA won't hire a maintenance team.

[@CanadianMeatloaf]

I wouldn't be surprised if they make a Total War: Warhammer 4.

[@goodtimesgamingtm1316]

The biggest problem that I don’t hear people mention often especially with companies like CA and Bethesda is how heavily they just rely on modders. They don’t outright say it obviously but why two days after a release of a DLC or game can some guy not getting paid doing it a few hours a day can release a mod that fixes glitches, adds units or characters, even whole new factions like if anyone hasn’t seen it look at OVN lost factions which yes I understand is a full team but they are a small one and doing it with passion while CA has teams of dozens of people. And then they have the balls to raise the price and tell everyone that well they had to it’s the way of the world.

[@mgoedec]

Man I loved this review. Thank you. Several creators out there being very soft on CA. Glad to see a creator with some stones.

[@Hoolygamer]

Thanks for being honest. It’s hard to find reliable reviews these days because creators tend to go full fanboy praising everything because of all the hype behind it while ignoring obvious flaws, or they rip into something without mercy even if it managed to do some things right. With all the CA drama it would be easy to go with the latter and most people would easily follow along but you chose to give a fair assessment. I respect your integrity.

[@QueenMooSuko]

It only just occurred to me that the way Total War is being developed, is almost like as if it were a MOBA selling new heroes/champions, which is really depressing.

[@HauntingSpectre]

Just saw the Shadows of Change ad on Steam, and saw there was a sale, I thought maybe the whole community backlash might've done something. Clicked it to see it, and in Canada it's 35$, on sale for 30$. Chaos Dwarves is 21$ by comparison. I mean, I knew the price went up, but for Canadians it went up 14$ where as for Americans it was 10$. I had kind of thought it would have been adjusted for Currency already so it was even more jarring to see 35$ after hearing "25 is too much" all month.

[@salahuddineliaskhan3620]

Love you work Colonel Damneders. Your guides are a god send. You are like The Advisor. Giving us guidance and wisdom from time to time....

[@ColonelDamneders]

P-Ogres my lord

[@1perspective286]

19:39 Lol, I actually got an ad for Shadows of Change just now. I agree with all of your points. I could forgive the DLC being over priced, it will eventually go on sale, but between crashes and bugs the game itself is not worth investing in right now.

[@CylonModel2]

Great video and can see you are rocking the Ben from Neck Deep look Colonel Damneders

[@frostbitedeath]

I know this has nothing to do with anything here. I completely appreciate your passion for this and understand your disappointment. That said... Is it just me or is there a little dot to the left of the top cubbies? Like i kept thinking it was on my screen and it drove me insane xD

[@dawn4383]

... Is that Disco Elysium music in the background?

[@ColonelDamneders]

I needed something to keep me sane

[@MrCrownedClown]

If shadow of change is discounted under 8-10 dollar, i might buy it not before. There are other campaigns i have not played yet.

[@KamekazeKuban]

So, I'm newer to your channel, like the past month or so. I just recently subbed but if I hadn't, I would of subbed on this video. I genuinely felt it when you said this game helped you get though a hard point in your life. maybe not with this franchise but with games in general. I think you're 100% right when you said fans have a right to critique their favorite IPs. take care bro!!!

[@bixcleave4170]

Beautiful rant bro. I just got tamurkhan alone from the new dlc I was expecting almost a year ago. I wish I could spent 9 usd for the kislev part of shadows of change. But I’ll just wait to get the dlc for Pennie’s in a year. I got almost all the tw2 dlc from steam key resellers for 25% of the price. I was late to the party for sure but what ever.

[@jadyv4980]

Man, when you said that Warhammer 2 helped you in a really dark time that made me sad, Im not even the biggest Warhammer fan I much prefer History but damn... Like you said, its not just some" bullshit game"... And its really sad that this will most likely be the end of Total War, CA has already moved most of its Development towards "Hyenas" which will obviously flop but still kill Total War most likely. Even if there where to be new Total Wars, after all this? I don't know man.... Its just really fucking sad to see Total War and CA going into this direction, I grew up with Total War and was always excited for new possible Total Wars like a Pike&Shot Era Total War or of course the classic, ever elusive, Medieval 3. But all of those hopes and dreams have been dashed for me... Total War had so much potential to do so much more and innovate with every new release... However after I would say Rome II its always been the same game basically, no real new innovations... Edit: I just discovered your channel through this Video and I honestly don't care about Warhammer 3 that much that I would constantly watch Gameplay of it but I can just tell that you and this community are truly passionate about this game and Total War from this video, you are really speaking your mind and how you really feel and it just saddens me that it has come to this, maybe Iam being a bit too Doomer right now but I truly believe this is the beginning of the End. Anyways, I just wanted to say that I subscribed to you just because you are you and I can tell you are being genuine and speaking your mind.

[@fonariuz141]

if they do do the 5 dollars a lord. they can also sell it as a pack for around 16/17 for all. or sell them solo for 5 a piece. i wouldnt mind

[@aarovit4257]

Is it weird that I want everyone not to buy this but I still want to buy it on the sole reason of Kislev and Tzeentch are some of my favorite factions so I’ll take more content for them? I’m not crazy in that right? So I’ll get it but I want no one else to support it

[@jordank6961]

and dont forgot using mods in multipler player everytime a mod updates, you have to resubscribe to it to properly download it or you 'll have incompatable versions

[@exodius9054]

I dont actually think that they are threatening to kill TWH3 and yeah thats a hill im going to die on. Warhammer is the biggest cash cow CA ever had and they are not going to kill it over one drama and a bad DLC

[@bobandjima]

Starbucks does not woth 8$, Disney does not worth 250$ per ticket, restaurant meals are not worth 50$ per person, difference, this type of content is not useful that day or while you eat it, I can play and enjoy for 40 60 hours

[@jahjah7940]

They prey upon those who can’t be bothered to wait a couple extra weeks or months. Patience is our strength, brothers. Don’t let boredom and impatience take over your wallet. That’s exactly what they want. If we are to change anything about this inexcusable greedy behaviour of big companies, we have to stand our ground. Do not buy this DLC. For the good of us all.

[@AMasondude]

Funniest thing, i started studying for real when this game came out, and it might just be done for the time im done with my education, which is in half a year. I really honestly do hope that CA takes the bull by the fucking horns and takes their time to make the game good again

[@graydendelong7444]

I’m not even gonna play the changing or yuan boa, I just wanted somthing for Kislev, and to find out that the lord starts on the assend of the world broke my heart, she’s a cool lord but I despise dark elves and don’t want to fight them, so to find out that’s her Main enemy is just miserable, just put her in the dark lands near old Kislev, but I guess complaining doesn’t really work so to anyone who reads this, sorry for my little rant ❤❤❤ love you

[@AkhilMulpuru]

First time I've watched a video of yours and I think I'll be checking out more and adding you to my TW subscriber rotation! Great explanation, concise, frank and I like your humor. I really want this DLC like ive gotten every others but I want the state of this game to change so I'll have to pass. Luckily its not that exciting and I was excited for the hag lady and I when I saw she cant recruit hag witches I thought oh well its not the first time I modded this game, when they said she started in Naggarond I thought oh boy that sucks I have to use new start really? When you just said she takes attrition...I can't fix it that much whats the point

[@CrimsonUltrafox]

The thing is...I would pay $25 if this DLC actually had more to offer. Every patch and DLC breaks the game more and that's still a bleeding wound. Plus, a full race pack would be worth this price, but there's just not much you're getting with this DLC. People were hoping for something like new lords and heroes for all three factions and more units. Cathay STILL needs a melee hero. Plus, I feel like we have more than enough chaos factions in the game right now. I'd rather have Neferata, Nagash, or a Norsca rework. Hell, even the trailer for this DLC was lackluster compared to the hype the chaos dwarf one gave me.

[@Gallabis]

New player here looking to buy one dlc which dlc would anyone recommend I’m looking for some really fun factions I like all of them but I want a fun campaign and mechanics any thoughts?

[@Nerazmus]

From faction pacs... Champions of Chaos is probably the best, Vampire Coast is also cool and very unique For the lord packs, Prophet and Warlock; Grim and Grave; Twisted and Twilight are really good. Lot of people also rate Silence and Fury pretty highly. And of course, the new one is really fun.

[@AdamJones-tu9lx]

the way CA is taking the overall DLCs, with no free content alongside, what i would like would be to be able to pick and choose what you want from it at lower prices. it is unnacceptable, but if you are like me, who only really cares about the Tzeentch stuff, being able to buy that for 1-2 pound would be tolerable at least

[@barnsey795]

paying AU$36 for this DLC is insane, CA needs to fire the corporate suits who are prioritising money over player experience ASAP

[@redpanda3339]

20 pounds?? In my area it was merely Rp. 243000 which is about 12.56 pounds.

[@Loldino897]

I got it for £10 thanks to deals which is about £2 as I paid for Silence and the Fury so not bad for me

[@therasco400]

The fans are the biggest critics. This is a huge statement to make when the vast majority of entertainment companies are blaming the fans for something not doing well.

[@sergiocrowe9848]

Good on you lad for speaking your mind openly. CA know they have some work to do if they actually regard their credibility moving forward.

[@Prushinthespirit]

Honestly expected them to at the very least give Celestial General a stone lion mount as an option. Would've been +100 for coolness faxtoe alonw at least. And would make him more devastating in melee. But nah.

[@drakebaker2769]

I think what he meant by "play the same campaign" is the non-immortal empires campaigns. He wasn't on IE when he said that, and in that sense he's right; most people play a 'campaign' maybe once then it's IE forever

[@PaulLewis-m3p]

You now have one extra subscriber my friend. Thanks for the review🙂

[@desmondmondbar2233]

the dlc is actually good for those who can aford it without starving * laughs at community and moves on*

[@JasperLane]

1:49 Me starting up my 200th run of Grimgor on normal "I feel personally attacked."

[@AD45]

Why are they overcomplicating things with so many stats

[@PNX034]

It’s funny because a large part of inflation in the US is because of corporate greed. So when corporations say they have to “raise prices due to inflation“ they are talking out of their ass

[@Kallosar]

Idk how I feel about this. People complained about Chaos Dwarves being overpriced. Then Diablo 4 and tons of other games released 20-30 euro skins and we get a bunch of content for 20 euros. So im a bit indecisive about this dlc 😅

[@JCJ262]

The overall quality of this DLC is really lacking and the quantity of the content isn't much more than the usual lord pack + FLC lord. In my local currency this DLC is closer to triple the price of the old lord packs. If I wanted to pay slightly more money I could get 6 unique factions, more units, heroes, generic lords and legendary heroes by buying older DLC. If they had added a legendary hero for each faction, about 3-5 more units per faction, hag lords and lore of hags for Kislev, a new hero type for Cathay and a lord or hero type for Tzeentch, then maybe this DLC would have been worth the price, but that alone is more content than what the DLC has at the moment. Another issue about the price of the DLC is the fact that it's a lord pack. Some people only buy lord packs because they want the content for one of the races added and don't really care about the other races in the DLC. In my local currency, the old lord packs are $12 while this one is $33.50. There's no way that I'd ever pay $33.50 if I was only interested in one of the three races, yet I could somewhat justify $12 to get more content for a race I enjoy.

[@Haiphong778]

I finally gave in and left a negative review on TWWH: III. I've got almost 800 hours in this game. I kept faith for so ridiculously long but this recent DLC is a very huge straw breaking this camel's back. Companies like Larian really show what competent management can do. CA is a good example of a company tanking its most successful IP for short term gains.