What else do you guys want to know about PPF or Vinyl Wraps???
@mountainmantesla43952 жыл бұрын
What about doing a satin vinyl charcoal over a grey Tesla and then going over the bra area with a PPF over the top? Can that be done? I don't want rock chips on the front. I live in the mountains and they sand the roads and it is bad. My first model Y I got a chip about every 2 weeks.
@BlackoutTinting2 жыл бұрын
So wondering if you can ppf over vinyl basically? Yes you can!
@BlackoutTinting2 жыл бұрын
The PPF we install has a 10 year warranty. Vinyl doesn’t have one. Both can damage paint when removing but it isn’t too often that it happens, they’re both just a pain to remove when they get old.
@gk94172 жыл бұрын
Can you put ppf protection film over a 3m black carbon fibre wrap on the hood only ✌️👍🇨🇦 thanks plus I have the hood ceramic pro coating on hood now Does it have to be removed before applying the wrap
@bigtyme7047 Жыл бұрын
What about vinyl wrap then wrap it PPF. The reason I say because if car is outside and exposed to element's is this the only way to make the vinyl wrap last instead of the sun making it fade?
@MatteoPescarin2 күн бұрын
fantastic video! no frills and down to the point! well done!
@deepgamdi10072 жыл бұрын
Ive been asking around for info on the difference and the things you said is exactly what i wanted to hear and understand better ! thank you so much for a very clear explanation !
@BlackoutTinting2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and subscribing 😉
@Zoli_ExhibitPrinting11 ай бұрын
Thanks! Explained the differences without any of the sale hype.
@BlackoutTinting11 ай бұрын
You are welcome, thanks for watching
@Proximian5 ай бұрын
My shop removed the door handles and anything that prevented XPEL Stealth PPF from wrapping around all edges and panels. My car has zero edges with PPF.
@staysharp_productions5 ай бұрын
I really appreciate you taking the time to make this and your crew and explaining this. Defiantly informative information. I just got a 2024 Performance Y and my friend recommended the PPF. It must be something new. I was going to Vinyl route. Super helpful video!
@BlackoutTinting5 ай бұрын
Very good to hear. Enjoy the new Y
@charlesm.98588 ай бұрын
WOW!! The Best description video I’ve ever seen Mahalo!!!
@BlackoutTinting8 ай бұрын
🤝
@ancientsymbol13 күн бұрын
Is this plastic recyclable or headed to a landfill at the end of its life. Is there any risk of it damaging the paint for any reason? Thx
@ResourceRentals5 ай бұрын
Do both. Vinyl first and PPF on top!!!!!!!!!🎉
@juanoquendo64805 ай бұрын
Expensive 🫰
@HorsePowerObsessed2 жыл бұрын
Great info here. Thanks for the clarification. 👍👍
@BlackoutTinting2 жыл бұрын
no prob bob
@DimensionMachine8 ай бұрын
Very informative and unbiased. Thanks for the info!
@BlackoutTinting8 ай бұрын
Glad lit helped, thanks for watching
@matsetizar658 ай бұрын
Which is better at repelling the sun’s heat? Planning to have a white coloured roof only wrap.
@JustxLiving9097 ай бұрын
Did you find which one does I’m in Vegas heat killing me
@francoispouliot Жыл бұрын
I never comment KZbin videos but honestly you did a fine job of explaining the difference in the not too long video but just enough professional speak well did a good job man clean video good image good sound yeah nice
@BlackoutTinting Жыл бұрын
Good to hear! Thanks for the kind words
@Firestorm1082 жыл бұрын
Great video! Have a grey model 3 on order and want to change it to a satin finish. Was really being thrown for a loop on what the real differences were between vinyl and PPF stealth. This video makes it much clearer!
@BlackoutTinting2 жыл бұрын
Glad we could help!
@JustxLiving9097 ай бұрын
What’s the difference between
@EdwardVonKrow7 ай бұрын
Will PPF apply to a basic Maaco paint job? It does have a clearcoat. (Asking for a friend) 👀.
@WhoWeAre1311 Жыл бұрын
Great explanation! Now I will know what to ask for and avoid being taken advantage of.
@BlackoutTinting Жыл бұрын
Not on on my watch!🫂
@DominoSixO10 ай бұрын
From personal experience I did the mistake and bought Satin black vinyl the thickest one and i bought it for protection, guess what, after a week on high way behind other cars who split small rocks, my front had rock chips already and the entire small area had a hole in the vinyl, that's the down side, it looks amazing but bad for protection. Another down side of vinyl, I unwrapped my entire car and the paint came off with it :D no joke, had to repaint my car. Regret it a bit for the same price of the vinyl and paint job i could buy and wrap my own car myself with the PPF
@BlackoutTinting10 ай бұрын
yikes.. that sucks. Color change PPF technology is getting much better. Vinyl is basically just for looks if we're being honest.
@jaepak2435 Жыл бұрын
Very informative. Can you do a combo of PPF (front/high risk areas) and vinyl (low impact areas but better coverage) and have it look consistent?
@BlackoutTinting Жыл бұрын
THEORETICALLY, probably. We might not be in to odd jobs enough to do it though.
@CS-yz2do Жыл бұрын
What camera did you guys use to record this video? Quality is amazing.
@BlackoutTinting Жыл бұрын
sony a7siii with 20mm f1.8 lens
@skillet37537 ай бұрын
easy fix just replace your whole car if it gets scratched
@BlackoutTinting6 ай бұрын
ouch!
@bluevette22302 жыл бұрын
Good day Josh; thank you for the informative content, and for all you do to protect beautiful rides; take care !
@BlackoutTinting2 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching as always!
@aquaticpimp9 ай бұрын
Great video. This was extremely helpful
@BlackoutTinting9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching
@johndough39402 жыл бұрын
I learned today that there is a thing called a stealth finish paint protection film, I'm going to have to research more about that, my number 1 question is, how does it clean and dry? are water spots an issue or rub marks from uneven drying with a cloth/towel? Thanks for making this video.
@BlackoutTinting2 жыл бұрын
It cleans well! Much easier to take care off than matte paint or vinyl in our opinion. It self heals like normal ppf as well. No rub marks, no issues with water spotting.
@sgtseenoaction Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. What’s the difference in cost for both?
@BlackoutTinting Жыл бұрын
The vinyl is going to probably be a little cheaper unless you want to do door jambs and other areas to completely hide the paint, but the ppf has the self healing properties.
@charlie-qm9gz2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time out to explain the difference looking forward to seeing what for 2022
@BlackoutTinting2 жыл бұрын
thanks!!!
@howtobeautylauren2 жыл бұрын
I would take your advice on Vinyl. How many gold options and pink options? Is the silver mirror wrap legal? What do you think of the diamond/ rhinestone look, are those vinyl?
@BlackoutTinting2 жыл бұрын
We can pretty much get any Gold or Pink you'd like. The Chrome style wraps are pretty much illegal because they can blind and distract other drivers. Just like you can't drive with underglow on or have too bright of headlights. We haven't done anything in diamond/rhinestone yet.
@khezoor2 ай бұрын
What if I wanna make my matte car roof, a glossy finish instead? Is there a clear vinyl or something I can use?
@BlackoutTinting2 ай бұрын
Regular gloss ppf will do that, or a gloss finish colored vinyl
@theflamerising17673 ай бұрын
Which one’s better?
@BlackoutTinting3 ай бұрын
Depends how you define better, both have different use cases
@AMS_Enzo Жыл бұрын
Wanting to black out the roof on my white car. Should I get black PPF or Black vinyl wrap. I have a sunroof and shark fin. Wanting it to last long as possible and the car sits outside and driven all year round what should I go with?
@BlackoutTinting Жыл бұрын
Black PPF, no doubt about it folks. Use a shop that can get close with their edges to make it look god and it’ll look like paint.
@anthonydargenio353610 ай бұрын
I have a car with factory flat black paint on the hood roof and trunk lid. After the PPF is removed will the adhesive damage the factory flat black paint ? Thanks
@BlackoutTinting10 ай бұрын
it varies from car to car... I think the paint that is most prone to removing paint is Mclaren
@drbenirusani Жыл бұрын
Nice! if I want to change my BMW 3 series "Sunset Orange" colour to something more of BMW's natural OEM blue finishes. Which type of wrapping material would you recommend? -- new fan from Malaysia.
@BlackoutTinting Жыл бұрын
Most wrap companies have similar colors but if you want something really specific you will have to find that brand. We like 3m, kpmf and Avery.
@drbenirusani Жыл бұрын
@@BlackoutTinting awesome thank you!
@BlackoutTinting Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome Beni my friend
@Godzson3510 ай бұрын
What brand of vinyl has a Satin Black that matches the Stealth ppf the closest?
@BlackoutTinting10 ай бұрын
This is a great question, we might have to do a short on that.
@Godzson3510 ай бұрын
@@BlackoutTinting Yes please! 🙏🏿
@eddiempate6002 жыл бұрын
Was looking for this info for sometime....thanks for the knowledge
@BlackoutTinting2 жыл бұрын
Glad to help
@jupiterslight77467 ай бұрын
I’m thinking of starting a PPF business , how much money and what are some tips do I need to know before I start wrapping cars ?
@BlackoutTinting7 ай бұрын
Watch a ton of KZbin content on it, buy some film and start practicing on your own vehicle before you start telling customers you can protect theirs.
@jupiterslight77467 ай бұрын
@@BlackoutTinting thx man ❤️
@hahagegehehe2 жыл бұрын
How about putting both vinyl wrap and paint protectin film?
@BlackoutTinting2 жыл бұрын
You can protect as much or as little of a vinyl wrap too. Color change PPF is getting more popular too.
@jasondefelice2710 Жыл бұрын
@@BlackoutTintingso you can apply a gloss PPF wrap over a vinyl wrap?
@BlackoutTinting Жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@jasondefelice2710 Жыл бұрын
@@BlackoutTinting that's awesome! Thanks man
@VViViDVINYLS2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Content is on point.
@BlackoutTinting2 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching!
@cutiecorgis8184 Жыл бұрын
Can ppf be applied over vinyl wrap to protect the wrap?
@BlackoutTinting Жыл бұрын
Yep!
@suboo9682 Жыл бұрын
Might as well just get colored ppf at that point.
@danCC123452 ай бұрын
So, color vinyl with clear ppf on the top.
@futbolista13 Жыл бұрын
How long does the wrap last, is it monthly or yearly maintenance?
@BlackoutTinting Жыл бұрын
There's no warranty on them, most shops would claim 2-3 years of daily driving but if well cared for then longer. One of the guys at our shop is going on 5+ on his I believe.
@SRC503 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very informative . I want to get into this industry. What professional training course should I take first from 3M paint protective film, or vinyl wrap?
@BlackoutTinting Жыл бұрын
Find a local wrap training, hands on is very helpful if you are new.
@SRC503 Жыл бұрын
@@BlackoutTinting yes I want to do hands on training, what I’m asking is which one you recommend to train first. I have option to train PPF OR Vinyl wrap
@BlackoutTinting Жыл бұрын
Well considering we don’t install vinyl anymore.. the choice is simple. PPF
@SRC503 Жыл бұрын
@@BlackoutTinting awesome thank you.
@25kurtcobain Жыл бұрын
What would a gloss black ppf cost for wrapping an already black 2008 corvette?
@BlackoutTinting Жыл бұрын
That's a great question, depends on the shop but probably around 7k-10k. We've never done a whole care in black ppf yet, just stripes and roofs and piano black trim..
@wskim5526 Жыл бұрын
How much price difference is in both? If I wanna go Vinyl I would go with base color pearl white to save my wallet. If I go to PPF, I would go MSM. Can you tell me?
@BlackoutTinting Жыл бұрын
You'd probably save around $3,000 depending on the vehicle type and what MSM means.
@wskim5526 Жыл бұрын
@@BlackoutTinting Vinyl is cheaper right? which will last longer? MSM is midnight silver metallic color lol.
@BlackoutTinting Жыл бұрын
Depends on the shop for pricing. Some are all over the place. Vinyl should be like half the price. The PPF usually has a 10 year warranty and self heals, unlike vinyl.
@marc_svsengineering4319 Жыл бұрын
@@wskim5526 Vinyl is a lot cheaper and if you plan to do it yourself, you can get the vinyl online from the manufacture. PPF is not available to consumers unless a shop (business) is willing to sell it to you. For an average sedan vehicle, plan for about 50-55 foot roll extra for mistakes if you do it yourself first time. Should be $500.00 and up depending on manufacture/color/texture and most importantly...demand.
@stevevermeiren2982 ай бұрын
Want to do my house exterior door.
@BlackoutTinting2 ай бұрын
yes sir
@TheUnknown-mg8fv Жыл бұрын
If wrapped does it has to be in garage instead the street for longer last?
@BlackoutTinting10 ай бұрын
vinyl can not take the abuse that ppf was designed to take.
@duanemari112 жыл бұрын
With newer vinyl wraps what is the how long with they last on a garaged car that rarely sees street use?
@BlackoutTinting2 жыл бұрын
We've seen them last 5 years if they are well kept.
@marc_svsengineering4319 Жыл бұрын
Mine is over 6 years with Vvivid vinyl and I live in Alaska (not garage kept but is parked in a car port). Starting to notice some lifting in the door creases but that maybe because of the installer (me). I do have a tear caused by someone scraping their car door into mine (about the size of a quarter). I would rate most vinyls from 5 to 10 years depending on the elements, type of finish on the original vehicle and how often you drive (highway)
@FastRedPonyCar Жыл бұрын
Estimated cost for you guys to wrap a model 3 in matte PPF?
@BlackoutTinting Жыл бұрын
full wrap around $6,500, front end wrap is $2400
@omarcaban991711 ай бұрын
Does the ppf damage paint in time ?
@BlackoutTinting10 ай бұрын
sometimes it can pull paint, but most cases it is fine
@theflamerising17673 ай бұрын
@@BlackoutTintingwhat about wrapping?
@BlackoutTinting3 ай бұрын
Usually just a pain to remove, the longer it stays on the worse it gets
@davidtucker3538 Жыл бұрын
A grandpa at the mall can beat any ppf. My Dad has scratched and dented so many cars, including mine.
@BlackoutTinting Жыл бұрын
🥲
@Hoserzzz2 ай бұрын
Vinyl is also self healing with a bit of heat, implying that vinyl will just scratch and youre cooked is a bit misleading
@BlackoutTinting2 ай бұрын
I think vinyl people have a different definition of self healing. We are planning on comparing the two in a video. So be on the lookout for that.
@Hoserzzz2 ай бұрын
@BlackoutTinting on a chemical level it's quite literally identical, they're both polymer films that bond back together when exposed to heat. Perhaps PPF is capable with just sun exposure or something but it requires heat regardless.
@OrlandoPaco7 күн бұрын
Wait 8mm thick? You mean 0.8mm thick! Right? Because 8mm is about a third of an inch!
@BlackoutTinting7 күн бұрын
He misspoke, it's 8mils as in .2mm 😂
@Chitownmud2 жыл бұрын
These guys are doing trunks in two pieces oh man
@BlackoutTinting2 жыл бұрын
highly undesirable myb
@kovenantsreeftank13172 ай бұрын
People who don't know how to work with PPF leave line or unfold areas.
@BlackoutTinting2 ай бұрын
We are one of the top 10 XPEL dealers in North America. We know how to work with PPF.
@marc_svsengineering4319 Жыл бұрын
OMG, who cares about paint protection. unless you plan to resell your vehicle and it's something special (increases with value with time) just freaking drive it. Most people buy Vinyl because they got stuck with a shitty color or just want to make a statement, or if you're like me, you're trying to hide some blemishes (eye sores) on the paint/body damage. My BMW was jet glossy black, had very minor dents and the door they replaced was a different shade of black. My matt ghost blue vinyl wrap made it eye appealing because of the color, it helped hide all the imperfections and also made a statement with all the positive comments I got. It was the best $400.00 I spent, and it let me learn a new skill. So, if you have a multi-million-dollar sports car, you're not watching this video.
@BlackoutTinting Жыл бұрын
Our schedule is booked out for a month of people wanting paint protection
@FreightRunna8 Жыл бұрын
Showed your mug more than the cars
@BlackoutTinting Жыл бұрын
Anyone can look at cars online, try that?
@OBX99 Жыл бұрын
Get it wrapped and apply ppf😆😂
@BlackoutTinting Жыл бұрын
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@TheRockisaBondMovie5 ай бұрын
Wait wait your telling me xpel is cheap at 10k??? Gtfoh 😂 no way anyone should pay that much
@BlackoutTinting5 ай бұрын
Come to us, we'll wrap your whole car for 7k and let your borrow our loaner for free