Do NOT hit the mitts like This!

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Tony Jeffries

Tony Jeffries

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@tonyvalente
@tonyvalente 3 ай бұрын
I was with Roger back in the 80s and he said that this kind of Pad work was to replace the speed bag and keep a Fighter from getting bored also to keep his reflexes sharp for defense. It wasn’t really designed for offense.
@csl9495
@csl9495 3 ай бұрын
It keeps you reallu mentally Sharp too. Its mind draining haha. Theres so much it helps with too. It keeps you in the pocket and stuff
@tonyvalente
@tonyvalente 3 ай бұрын
@@csl9495 I was teaching this stuff 15 years ago before it became popular.
@chrisburg620
@chrisburg620 3 ай бұрын
If a boxer is getting bored during a fight, they should probably consider another sport
@KP_D2
@KP_D2 3 ай бұрын
@@chrisburg620 Bro...Bored during training. Training gets repetitive and does get boring sometime. I wouldnt have it any other way thats how you get great at boxing. BUt you missed the point completely.
@H_whit99
@H_whit99 4 ай бұрын
I’ve said this before. It worked for Floyd, but I don’t think this type of pad work is good for 99% of boxers because it’s not realistic punches. It seems more like reflex work than actually working on your punches. Not saying it’s useless i just don’t think this is the best way for most people to do pad work.
@tahke8284
@tahke8284 4 ай бұрын
It worked for his father,and both uncles.
@UseYourIllusions78
@UseYourIllusions78 4 ай бұрын
Fighters have been actors for yrs now ...scripted junk ...since Ali ....challange any one of use to watch 10 random Ali fights an tell me they weren't ghost k.o's lol ...slow motion an frame by frame proves there just a step up from wrestlers ....any one who can run a computer can see Ali , an this clown king of no touch k.o's 😂😂😂
@lubau02
@lubau02 4 ай бұрын
​@@UseYourIllusions78you should go see a doctor
@Tony_Jeffries
@Tony_Jeffries 4 ай бұрын
Appreciate the comment mate 👊🏻
@Ytterdahls
@Ytterdahls 4 ай бұрын
When boxing legends and stars do this, it’s mainly for show. When a coach does this to develop a fighter that hasn’t developed insane basics yet, it’s reversing the skill level. Seen many of these paddy cake videos, where the boxer has no technique at all, but remembers a 20 punch combo that makes no sense if you cannot react with it, rotate your hips and connect precisely with power and speed.
@cavanjnr
@cavanjnr 4 ай бұрын
I was under the impression Floyd just did it to warm up his arms
@kurylko8493
@kurylko8493 4 ай бұрын
nah its a bit of it but more of getting loose and fluid
@xaestar.
@xaestar. 4 ай бұрын
i found your channel after getting into a bad fight earlier last year, and its honestly helped so much, i still struggle with it a bit but i have the proper technique and form and feel a lot more confident so thank you.
@alexbarros8550
@alexbarros8550 4 ай бұрын
Floyd's mitt work is incorrect, Tony is right. The reason Floyd won fights is skills, definitely great condition
@ManvasPachenko
@ManvasPachenko 4 ай бұрын
And paying people off, like Referee, Kenny "Show me the money!" Bayless.
@ArtistDaynz90
@ArtistDaynz90 4 ай бұрын
The reason he won so many fights is deep pockets.
@ArtistDaynz90
@ArtistDaynz90 4 ай бұрын
@@ManvasPachenko Refs, judges, cornermen, and fighters lol.
@UseYourIllusions78
@UseYourIllusions78 4 ай бұрын
Fighters have been actors for yrs now ...scripted junk ...since Ali ....challange any one of use to watch 10 random Ali fights an tell me they weren't ghost k.o's lol ...slow motion an frame by frame proves there just a step up from wrestlers ....any one who can run a computer can see Ali , an this clown king of no touch k.o's 😂😂😂
@Theboxinglifecoach
@Theboxinglifecoach 4 ай бұрын
He wasn’t doing it the wrong way. Roger believed it was more about the concentration and reaction speed. There is a great video from Roger Mayweather breaking down how and why he does the pads
@leovillasenor
@leovillasenor 4 ай бұрын
Man i had no idea about this course, im an amateur golden gloves boxer trynna make a living out of this and going full time as a coach, this is exactly what i was looking for, hopefully this helps me chase my passion and I succeed in making myself a top notch coach and make good bread doing it, joining your course next week🙌🏽👊🏽 thank you Tony
@JEDINITE30
@JEDINITE30 4 ай бұрын
I bet all of the Floyd haters on here feel like they finally had a victory against the Undefeated Professional Champion LOL. The Mayweather pad work is about muscle memory in transitional movements along with making contact. They're not really combos, they mimic all possible transitional movements you can do in boxing. And like anything you practice, you will get good at it and not have to think about it.
@RodneyKing-kz3ym
@RodneyKing-kz3ym 3 ай бұрын
And it looked good for the cameras. Floyd perhaps has the most discussed pad work in boxing history. Even non boxing fans talk about his pad work. Floyd is all about promo, the pad work was just promo to get people to talk. It worked.
@JEDINITE30
@JEDINITE30 3 ай бұрын
@@RodneyKing-kz3ym There are other ways to do promos. Why would the Mayweather brothers spend so much time developing it over the years and the undefeated champion spend so much time perfecting it. Everyone that has something against it or has a hard time understanding it, is nowhere near Floyd's level.
@RodneyKing-kz3ym
@RodneyKing-kz3ym 3 ай бұрын
I could see how it would develop reflexes. Especially because Floyd had some of the best reflexes, even up close. It’s probably a bit of both. It’s safe to say he wasn’t using this style of pad work for his whole career as it’s very unorthodox, and Floyd knows fundamental boxing. But yes, people do hate on Floyd and many (including myself) don’t have the boxing IQ he has.
@AxelfoleyTheGreat
@AxelfoleyTheGreat 3 ай бұрын
To me Floyd Mayweather had the best pad work in the game.
@jackstone1366
@jackstone1366 3 ай бұрын
Agreed ​@@AxelfoleyTheGreat
@juandenz2008
@juandenz2008 4 ай бұрын
That continuous style mittwork was really a Roger Mayweather thing. Even Jeff and Floyd Sr don't really use it to the same degree. Later other trainers tried to emulate it. I always thought of it as a kind of fitness drill and not the only type of mittwork that should be done. People want to emulate their favourite fighters though, for example people want to do Peek-a-boo style boxing even though it doesn't suit most fighters.
@handfloboxingreview1673
@handfloboxingreview1673 4 ай бұрын
The roger Mayweather mitt work is a good drill for reaction time and counterpunching but Floyd did lots of other training working on the basics mainly shadowboxing and bag work.
@realapppleC.E.O
@realapppleC.E.O 4 ай бұрын
Tony jeffries vs Floyd mayweather? 2 retired pros. I think it makes sense, petition for it
@revenant2943
@revenant2943 4 ай бұрын
Tony can't fight anymore. He made a video about it. He fucked up his hands.
@juandenz2008
@juandenz2008 4 ай бұрын
Tony doesn't even spar anymore because he understandably doesn't want to take anymore shots to the head due to the risk of CTE.
@Tony_Jeffries
@Tony_Jeffries 4 ай бұрын
Your right mate 🤣🤣
@realapppleC.E.O
@realapppleC.E.O 4 ай бұрын
@@revenant2943 yeah true forgot about that
@realapppleC.E.O
@realapppleC.E.O 4 ай бұрын
@@juandenz2008 understandsble
@NenskiTrill
@NenskiTrill 3 ай бұрын
Floyd himself said that he sees fighters doing flashy padwork and they don’t know the basics like turning their punches over. He even discussed squatting and bending the knees when hitting the heavy bag. Floyd has a routine and regimen that extends far beyond padwork. I’m sure there’s a reason he does the way he does it.
@billbill6094
@billbill6094 2 ай бұрын
The "But it worked for him so you're a bad boxer" comments tell me most of these people never put on gloves in their life (especially when said to a pro undefeated, 7 time national champ, olympic medalist boxer). Then go on and chainsmoke, drink, do all the drugs you can get your hands on because some of the greatest fighters ever have done so and it worked for them. At the end of the day this padwork doesn't produce good fighters save the _1,_ and that's why most coaches will never have their fighters do this. Just ignore the reasoning behind why padwork is done, don't consider maybe he's good _in spite_ of it, and ignore the hundred+ years of pugilism has whipped padwork into its current, proven effective shape. All because one good fighter did a drill wrong, sure. Boxing is a democracy, not a dictatorship where your top guy determines what's law. _You_ are never going to get good thinking like this and following any poor training method. People glazing Floyd seriously need to realize how dumb that argument is, it's like people who justify their inability to keep their hands up because they saw one good fighter who also can't (who likely had phenom power and great head movement and reach their fans don't have to make up for it) so fans act like it's their own style instead of their weakness.
@RTC1655
@RTC1655 4 ай бұрын
Mitts are good for improving the pop in your punch. Nonetheless, the heavy bag and the double ended bag is much better training. Sparring is of course the best, by far.
@synvaVal
@synvaVal 4 ай бұрын
To the casuals here who don’t actually box, here is why mitt works are used for Floyd, speed and reaction timing and technique(turning hands when punching)
@Josh-jw7cb
@Josh-jw7cb 3 ай бұрын
This! wtf clickbait bullshit is this he knows this.
@JBConsistency
@JBConsistency 4 ай бұрын
What works for Floyd won’t work for everyone else. Diamonds are formed under pressure but bread dough rises when you let it rest. Their are different ways to the top of the mountain.
@wetpeps9651
@wetpeps9651 3 ай бұрын
love that my nga
@WyattPeacock-f2h
@WyattPeacock-f2h 4 ай бұрын
The reason he does it like that is bc he has fragile knuckles he’s broke his hands so many times there very fragile that’s why he’s a defensive fighter
@fiestastboost5788
@fiestastboost5788 4 ай бұрын
I love this video! Your spot on. Lotsa people see this kind of mitt work and think its the be all end all and the boxers doing it are the best fighters...till they mimic and spend too much time on it do some proper sparring against good competition and struggle. I am also not a floyd mayweather fan and also cant believe anything comes out of his mouth especially when self proclaiming himself the greatest boxer of all time...i can think of a few boxers in history straight off the top of my head i believe he would have had a hard time winning against. Not saying he would have lost or won (we will never know...but he knows apparently) but they would have been a hard matchup for him i recon
@CasanovaPugilist147
@CasanovaPugilist147 4 ай бұрын
I think guys like Floyd, Tank, Haney, and Bud are just all trolling us. If you want to be a serious boxer, don't do what the top guys do.
@wetpeps9651
@wetpeps9651 3 ай бұрын
u might be right uno🤣
@davesmith826
@davesmith826 4 ай бұрын
I always assumed these drills were for endurance and reactions. No live dog is going to sit in front of you and allow you to throw 5% punches at speed. You'll get lit up!!!
@billbill6094
@billbill6094 2 ай бұрын
Side tangent but people who think Floyd is the best fighter to ever live in human history really really need to learn about other combat sports, heck ignore grappling and mma and just look at striking sports specifically, Muay Thai, kickboxing, etc. I'm not making the obvious argument of "he'd lose in this because he doesn't know anything about this and this and that so he's not a great fighter" (even though some of you yourselves use that logic when it comes to the Tenshin fight), I'm saying seriously look at the feats and prowess of champs and legends from other sports and compare it. Then see how much the feats of some legends pale in comparison to the GOATs of those same sports. Floyd isn't "the greatest human fighter ever born, if you distill it down to his ability in his sport compared to others ability in their sport" (this is the way most seem to mean it). In terms of fighting there are people who've had more impressive work to their name and a mastery of a skill ceiling that's just higher. Just because you guys _only_ understand boxing (or pretend you do) or because you don't put respect on other combat sports the way you put respect on boxing doesn't make Floyd the fight messiah or the pinaccle of human fighting capability (however you'd even determine that for a person who only has punches and only has to worry about punches.)
@RodneyKing-kz3ym
@RodneyKing-kz3ym 3 ай бұрын
My coach fought Floyd in the amateurs 🥊. He always said what people do wrong is they try to copy Floyd and they don’t understand boxing fundamentals 🤦‍♂️. Floyd understands boxing fundamentals. What does he do if he finds himself threatened in a fight?…traditional, basic boxing. Look at the Shane Mosley fight. 🤔 It’s like not knowing how to dribble a basketball but you want to perform fancy crossovers all day that don’t work in game 😫. I think Floyd is semi trolling with the mitt work for cameras. He also use to show himself eating fast food. He also made it seem like McGregor had a chance to win. I like Floyd. Some ppl can’t seem to go without voicing their displeasure for him. I hope they carry that same energy for Conor McGregor or some politicians they may justify, but generally people don’t. Not saying you Tony, but the rhetoric and double standards are fierce 😏.
@AxelfoleyTheGreat
@AxelfoleyTheGreat 3 ай бұрын
You told it right brother. They can say what they want about Floyd. At the end of the day he beat all of their favorite fighters. He smoked 💨 them all in the ring 🥊 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Harpergraham13
@Harpergraham13 Ай бұрын
Good video Mate, I'm happy you did it, thank u❤
@kalanahansajith5534
@kalanahansajith5534 4 ай бұрын
Heavybag > Mits
@victorespino5650
@victorespino5650 4 ай бұрын
The bag doesn't hit back. The mit work does. But floyds mitt work looks wack lol
@estebanslavidastic4382
@estebanslavidastic4382 4 ай бұрын
Not true at all. Both have a place
@revenant2943
@revenant2943 4 ай бұрын
​@@victorespino5650 Hits back in the sense of it swinging back at you. Bags aren't perfect, but can be one of the best ways to train aside from sparring if done right.
@Pork21
@Pork21 4 ай бұрын
W
@juandenz2008
@juandenz2008 4 ай бұрын
No way !! Mitts are far better in my opinion. You can move around the ring and work on both attack and defense. The trainer can dynamically create targets that you have to react to, as well as simulate punches that you have to defend. The heavy bag is a useful tool for sure, but a good trainer on the mitts is far superior. Properly used the mitts are much closer to actual fighting.
@Cloppa2000
@Cloppa2000 4 ай бұрын
When I commented that I loved how Floyd gets the mitt holder to do all the work, I was accused of not knowing what I'm talking about! Love it when a professional sees it how I see it! 👍👍
@sixevensage7004
@sixevensage7004 4 ай бұрын
Im shocked on how he is showing his training, at least on youtube. So fake. I do not agree with him called a good "fighter" but he is a good "boxer".
@austinsavage
@austinsavage 4 ай бұрын
Ricky Hatton made fun of Floyd's mitt work, and we know what happened. it obviously worked for Floyd at least when it comes to fluidity and reaction
@rodrigOriginal91
@rodrigOriginal91 4 ай бұрын
Finally, someone with credentials has made a statement about this. I always thought that Floyd's mitt work was sh1t.
@d12dan20
@d12dan20 4 ай бұрын
If Usain Bolt says running backwards is good training for the 100m sprint then the truth doesn't mean much if someone with those accolades says it can help. Same with Floyd, I can have an opinion on it but I don't have the accolades to back my opinion up
@teedot1186
@teedot1186 4 ай бұрын
Bingo. This video is Garbage.
@CathrineMakoko
@CathrineMakoko 4 ай бұрын
My question is are you undefeated in boxing like he is?
@mr.spe-yt
@mr.spe-yt 4 ай бұрын
Your my favorite boxing coach Tony! Keep on making great content mate
@UseYourIllusions78
@UseYourIllusions78 4 ай бұрын
Fighters have been actors for yrs now ...scripted junk ...since Ali ....challange any one of use to watch 10 random Ali fights an tell me they weren't ghost k.o's lol ...slow motion an frame by frame proves there just a step up from wrestlers ....any one who can run a computer can see Ali , an this clown king of no touch k.o's 😂😂😂
@Tony_Jeffries
@Tony_Jeffries 4 ай бұрын
Thanks! Means a lot mate 🙏🏻
@mr.spe-yt
@mr.spe-yt 4 ай бұрын
@@Tony_Jeffries your welcome Tony! Keep up the great content
@2bsure
@2bsure 4 ай бұрын
What works for Floyd won't always work for others. Don't copy anyone else, develop your own style. I'm sure all those movements had benefits like timing, reaction and speed but don't have practical applications in the ring. Right tools for the job at that time.
@GH-zg2wu
@GH-zg2wu 3 ай бұрын
It’s not the only training he does, just one part of a big training program
@Matt-OB78
@Matt-OB78 3 ай бұрын
My old trainer used to say it's all for show just for the cameras. Behind closed doors the real padwork is done
@TheShaqii
@TheShaqii 4 ай бұрын
actually. Floyd commented on this earlier (years ago) that he switched up to hit mits like that because he wanted to minimize damage to his hands(was something about old injuries) and that he does mits only for the rythm. not sure if correct but i can remember he said something along those lines
@layups
@layups 3 ай бұрын
The thumbnail for this video made me want to disagree with the Olympic Medalist Tony Jeffries for saying Mayweather’s padwork sucks but then Tony shows Mayweather criticizing the mittwoke style. Thanks for educating me Coach Tony!
@Kingwboxing
@Kingwboxing 4 ай бұрын
The Heavy bag and shadow boxing is more important. But RIP Roger Mayweather. Mitt work was never the same when he passed away.
@UseYourIllusions78
@UseYourIllusions78 4 ай бұрын
Fighters have been actors for yrs now ...scripted junk ...since Ali ....challange any one of use to watch 10 random Ali fights an tell me they weren't ghost k.o's lol ...slow motion an frame by frame proves there just a step up from wrestlers ....any one who can run a computer can see Ali , an this clown king of no touch k.o's 😂😂😂
@TylerWoodley-m4q
@TylerWoodley-m4q 4 ай бұрын
It’s easy to look good on the pads. Most of the benefits of pads are looking good and impressing the other guys at your gym, as Tony addressed. It’s 1,000 times more beneficial to shadow box and use the bags than box on the pads.
@ManvasPachenko
@ManvasPachenko 4 ай бұрын
I totally agree bud. When hitting the heavy bag's, you're developing your own style and working the angles. As well as working the three ranges. Outside - mid - inside. Also I work from body to head. Head to body. Shadow boxing is brilliant for your balance and controlling your hands. It's also good for practicing footwork. I do visualizations. For example. Defensive footwork, punching and lateral side to side angles, whilst visualizing an opponent trying to walk me down. Or the opposite way. Slipping and weaving, whilst cutting off the ring, stalking and opponent. I' don't need pads, that's for sure.
@Lemon-rk9hq
@Lemon-rk9hq 3 ай бұрын
@@ManvasPachenkoI agree I never really cared for pads I love Shadow boxing mimics a real fight and how you would move
@changinia6138
@changinia6138 4 ай бұрын
Right?
@berenger3226
@berenger3226 4 ай бұрын
It was nothing but a well rehearsed, heavily choreographed dance. As good as Floyd was, he was all about image, and he believed this looked good
@JBConsistency
@JBConsistency 4 ай бұрын
Tony Jeffries vs Floyd Mayweather Exhibition
@novacombatarts
@novacombatarts 4 ай бұрын
One thing i hate with mit work is they never purposly make the fighter miss the mits. I do this all thr time as every punch wont land and it trains recovey. Most people get hit because of a bad recovery because they dont have a place they plan stop thier punch and begin the recovery if they miss. They just throw the attack and dont even have a plan for what part the punch should enf if it doesn hit. Let alone being able to recognize mid attack that your attack will fail. If your attaxk is going to fail turn it into a fient and go some where else. Another issue i have is people always holding the mit in the same spot. Like every time they hold for a jab its in the same spot. Move the hand around have them jab at all kinds of angles and distances. Force them to compensate for a distance change mid jab even.
@D1Snr
@D1Snr 4 ай бұрын
I wouldn't read too much into Floyd's mitt work. I think he used it as a warm up procedure and more to improve his timings and punch muscle memory. I honestly dont think it was an essential part of his training. I guess it was a good thing for the cameras to see and it didn't give away his game plan for the fight. I bet when the cameras were not around, Floyd barley did any pad work.
@Allrage
@Allrage 4 ай бұрын
Tony I’m so glad you posted this, I saw it the other day and was confused haha, who is doing the workout here? The Mitt/pad guy seems to be doing it and not Floyd, I see this so many times in person and online and can’t stand it, yes it makes the fighter look good nice and quick but what technique is being improved and what is being shown, I am sure I was not taught to catch punches like this 😂😂 - Billy
@YairHerrera-og1ps
@YairHerrera-og1ps 3 ай бұрын
TBE
@FitnessWorld-vi6fo
@FitnessWorld-vi6fo 4 ай бұрын
I feel like Floyd does the wrong way so WE don't succeed 😂😂😂
@FoeMillion
@FoeMillion 4 ай бұрын
The real question we want to know is why aren’t you a Mayweather fan? 😂
@jayluis189
@jayluis189 4 ай бұрын
A better question is, does he "have to" be a Mayweather fan?
@Incrediblysimplestudios
@Incrediblysimplestudios 4 ай бұрын
Compare tyson on pads to mayweather on pads
@rdx2446
@rdx2446 4 ай бұрын
Tony you reacted to some scenes from Rocky and Creed movies, do one about Hajime no Ippo
@dochalovic5899
@dochalovic5899 2 ай бұрын
Someone had to say it. The pad holder works harder that the striker.
@teedot1186
@teedot1186 4 ай бұрын
Floyd is Wealthy because of Box and was Undefeated at Boxing. Throw this BS video out. This training is about Timing and Repetition. Thumbs Down...
@EliLiviz
@EliLiviz 3 ай бұрын
Mits and speed/punching bags are great for fitness, but completely unrealistic preparation for a pro fight, a fight is a fight.
@cosmicbricks3339
@cosmicbricks3339 4 ай бұрын
1:32 😂 hahah Tony that caught me off guard Btw these pad works only work for a specific type of individual Like alex pereira in the ufc checks kicks in a very odd way by his rear foot heel blocking the kick
@uneedmorepeople
@uneedmorepeople 4 ай бұрын
I've seen this live with Roger ! I've seen Roger teach it to students. Floyd and Roger did it the right way. Floyd is calling out what they're doing and what they're doing isn't what Roger was doing. DISAGREE love you Tony
@yauhoang6773
@yauhoang6773 4 ай бұрын
If its works for Floyd then I don't think he need to "change" his pad training style unless hes just fooling around just to trick us(sins Curmel motion and other boxer using that kind of pad works style sometimes then I cant say its "bad" atm). Like you said I wouldn't recommend for new people because it "might" create a bad habit UNLESS trainer know the reason why they are doing that kind of pad work(if the trainer don´t know why the real foundation/reason of floyd pad work then the boxer will really have a bad boxing foundation.). Keep in mind that experience/professional boxer will some extend break their boxing foundation. We all have heard don't cross you leg. Don´t lower your guard etc etc but yet professional boxer does it in some extend. Even me(no I´m not a professional boxer) who has been training boxing for almost 14 years stops drilling some extend beginner boxing style or use it(like it exist different boxing style then it also exist different TYPE of jab, cross, hook and uppercut) unless "countering/defending" specific boxing technique. If I would do the floyd pad works(what I think the reason they are doing it) it´s mostly to active "right" muscle group and hip rotation and muscle memories without relying only "arm muscle" when they hit the pads but that's my opinion. So any American people who has train in Mayweather boxing gym please explain the reason of that pad work.😁
@NestingSpider
@NestingSpider 4 ай бұрын
I bought that shirt from you, Tony! Eat, Sleep, Boxing, Repeat. It's a life mantra, man!
@Tony_Jeffries
@Tony_Jeffries 4 ай бұрын
Thanks man!
@jackychin76
@jackychin76 3 ай бұрын
Hello Tony ~ ❤❤❤
@Tony_Jeffries
@Tony_Jeffries 4 ай бұрын
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@DannishPlaysReturns
@DannishPlaysReturns 4 ай бұрын
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@Himothy98
@Himothy98 4 ай бұрын
Ok… what about some current boxers? I always hear how similar Boots Ennis and Bud Crawford are, but I notice stark differences in their padwork and training. Ennis being more flashy like Mayweather, and Bud being more calm and methodical. How do you see it?
@IAMJEFFREY-cw9ns
@IAMJEFFREY-cw9ns 3 ай бұрын
Floyd has to be the exception because obviously we all know how good he is in the ring.
@THEINFINITEBLACKDYNAMITE
@THEINFINITEBLACKDYNAMITE 2 ай бұрын
I never boxed, but I like Mayweather Jr.'s padwork. His padwork, you can see he throws his punches with proper technique which a fighter should always do, he moves & creates new angles, you have to stay focus, which every fighter should do during the whole fighter, & it's freestyle, which is what happens when fighters fight, in those moments in the fight, fighters react to what they see from there opponent or want to setup.
@PabloValentino.papi-Chulo
@PabloValentino.papi-Chulo 3 ай бұрын
Tony said he looked bad in the second one😂...he is trippin
@clarity2115
@clarity2115 3 ай бұрын
He's been training his whole life. Don't see how much better he can get at hitting pads the traditional way for 35+ years. He has fragile hands, the pitter patter style probably helps with that also eyes & reflexes are the first to go in aging fighters seems like he was sharp defensively even at a lower weight class up until his retirement.
@boxingforselfdefence7620
@boxingforselfdefence7620 4 ай бұрын
The student doesn't tell the master his juju is bad until the student has done what the master has done. The only thing you need to ask about a boxer is what are his results. Mayweather trains the way he trains because that works for him. It's not down to others to copy it or to judge it. Just judge the results.
@stevebb2915
@stevebb2915 4 ай бұрын
what on earth are you drivelling on about?
@teedot1186
@teedot1186 4 ай бұрын
Bingo. This video is Trash.
@austinsavage
@austinsavage 4 ай бұрын
@@stevebb2915 he s saying it obviously works for Floyd and the proof is in the pudding. but that doesn't mean it works for everyone
@cristristam9054
@cristristam9054 4 ай бұрын
You are wrong ,some people are more talented than others such that not always the boxer with the best results has the best training methods.
@boxingforselfdefence7620
@boxingforselfdefence7620 4 ай бұрын
@@cristristam9054 you have no way of judging training methods other than the results they achieve - no way.
@senghbeh
@senghbeh 3 ай бұрын
Must have worked out for him as far as hitting the pads his style.’. He’s unbeaten. In his day he made Canelo look like a sparring match. Probably because of his style of pad work.
@hemmydall
@hemmydall 3 ай бұрын
Floyd's "pit pat" movements like you highlight at the start he actually has done in a fight. Go watch his fight against Miguel Cotto. In the moments where they are "phone booth" boxing, he's slipping in those small punches between Cotto's combos, at times with enough force to snap Cotto's head back. Its ridiculous once you notice it, and he's even smiling during some of the exchanges.
@MP-db9sw
@MP-db9sw 3 ай бұрын
They had a system behind that kind of work that you wont understand by just watching it. Its more than just pitty patting on the mits but its something theyre not gonna explain. Thats my guess.
@CaptainJacob2007
@CaptainJacob2007 4 ай бұрын
Can you do a video on how to Dempsey roll
@MassimilianoConcas-d2g
@MassimilianoConcas-d2g 3 ай бұрын
if you don't understand Floyd's mitt work you just don't have the proper body mechanics for boxing, you can train differently but if you don't see what he is doing, it's because you just don't have it in you...
@CoachJimWheeler
@CoachJimWheeler 3 ай бұрын
I’ve had a pad holder do that for me, I love it, timing foot work the mechanics of punching, I think yours very harsh, give it a go, don’t be a hater.
@1boreal
@1boreal 4 ай бұрын
Wait.... so what worked for one of the most naturally gifted fighters of his generation wouldnt work for me?
@JA-jx1hk
@JA-jx1hk 4 ай бұрын
Naturally gifted? I’m not saying he doesn’t have a gifted understanding of boxing but he was literally born into a professional boxing family that taught him how to box as soon as he could walk. People throw around the term naturally gifted too often now. And I’ll be honest, it’s almost always towards black people. It’s this weird kinda racist fetish people have it seems, because someone is black they’re just naturally gifted, ignore the decades of work and training they’ve done literally since birth in this case.
@Muhammad11776
@Muhammad11776 4 ай бұрын
Racist
@Muhammad11776
@Muhammad11776 4 ай бұрын
@@JA-jx1hkwhite liberal fetish
@1boreal
@1boreal 4 ай бұрын
@@JA-jx1hk Usyk, Erick Morales and Manny Pacquiao are also naturally gifted fighters. I could train every bit as much as they did but not be as good because i lack their level of natural talent.
@estebanslavidastic4382
@estebanslavidastic4382 4 ай бұрын
No. It wouldn’t. Not at the amateur level. Amateur boxing and professional boxing are almost two different sports
@christophereverest4547
@christophereverest4547 4 ай бұрын
I agree with you that hitting the mitts like that is completely unrealistic so far as throwing punches in a real fight is concerned. And I also agree that Floyd looked less than tremendous when throwing "normal" punches in mitt work with the other bloke! Floyd is getting on a bit, as you rightly said... However, from what I saw, the guy holding the mitts needs to work on his pad skills, too, for it is definitely a skill. Seem to recall that Carl Froch once said that his coach "made him look good" when they were on the pads! A bit of modesty on Carl's part (unusually so, perhaps you will say, although I think it had more to do with the fact that he clearly admired his coach, and rightly so!). Personally, I think the truth of it is that both boxer and mitt trainer need to be good for the end product to look good. To test this theory, find a phenomenal boxer (mmm, like yourself!) and then invite a novice / relative novice to work the mitts for you... My guess is that it won't look good! I also seem to recall that a well-known coach,Tunde Ajayi, who used to train people at the Peacock Gym in London, was a huge fan of the Floyd and Roger pitty-pat mitt work. Tunde had reams of paper with all his combinations on them! Very amusing, or at least I found it so. Mind you, he was selling his "Stamina for Sale." Accordingly, for the reasons you mention (the middle-aged paying client who feels a million dollars on the mitts as a result), his training method had purpose. And then, of course, there was Anthony Yarde, Tundi's tremendous light heavyweight. He must have done quite a bit of pitty-pat with Tunde. I've seen some on film. When Yarde got into the ring competitively, he usually knocked his opponents out, so there was definitely no "pitty-pat" there!!! However, I'm sure the stamina and timing that goes with the pitty-pat mitt work must have come in handy. If only he'd had just an ounce more, he'd have won the Kovalev fight. No, the real problem as I see it would be doing pitty-pat too much, thereby failing to concentrate on "normal" mitt work.
@Tony_Jeffries
@Tony_Jeffries 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment mate
@superduper9620
@superduper9620 3 ай бұрын
Everyone just needs to stop trying to be right all the time. Fighting is art and it’s all objective. There’s pros and cons to each way of pads or any sorts of training. We need to uplift everyone and obviously give constructive criticism but not with such arrogance or the ego. Uplift, that’s it.
@cesarjkd8379
@cesarjkd8379 4 ай бұрын
Roger the Real Black Mamba had trouble with his vision because of diabetes. I wonder if the modified pitty pat mitt work had to do with that? On a side note, i consider roger the toughest of the Mayweathers. He fought with finesse & guts, and got in there with some real lions. He didn't always have all the advantages in his matches but always came to fight nonetheless. God bless him. Rest in peace Black Mamba!
@bnygma28
@bnygma28 2 ай бұрын
Haha he’s not saying he was doing it the wrong way, he’s saying his advanced level mitt work can’t be done by low level beginner boxers, with patterns, defense, timing, range management and endurance training built in, the work he did with Roger suits HIM because he’s known how to fully and properly throw punches and has since he was a child, but is the wrong way for your basic ass. I love how all these people hate on Floyd even though he easily beat your favorite fighter. Watch the Gatti fight to see Floyd embarrass a legend in the sport with his combinations, after that, he chooses to be defensive, why use 6 shots when you can beat a guy with 2 and still have plenty of gas in the tank. Also, once he started breaking his hands, he took a low risk, Out point the opponent approach. Smart, tactical, efficient, sweet scientist. Where’s the video on how Floyd is the cleanest fighter in the sport and voluntarily did blood and urine testing each fight never once failing. The haters don’t focus on that. Or how the richer he got the harder he trained, unlike most humans. That check Hook while going backwards causing Hatton to head butt the corner must still sting for these Uk guys that hate. I hope it’s not anger over him ko’ing Drunkard Mcgregor, that was easy work and dude never dared step foot in a boxing ring again. I normally like your content but this was disappointing. For all these people who have a problem with Floyd, he must have done something right, for you to still be talking about him 7 years after he retired.
@changinia6138
@changinia6138 4 ай бұрын
Your the the boxing champion
@gilly25th
@gilly25th 4 ай бұрын
Floyd was a great boxer. No one can deny it. But I feel he has hurt the sport of boxing as a whole. Just my opinion
@Tony_Jeffries
@Tony_Jeffries 4 ай бұрын
Why you think mate?
@iampage2089
@iampage2089 4 ай бұрын
Bro, shut up you just be saying shit
@gilly25th
@gilly25th 4 ай бұрын
@Tony_Jeffries He was great, but boring. Pretty much killed HBO boxing. Took McGregor away from MMA while he was champ and in his prime. Fighting Logan Paul and other pretenders. Seems like a shitbag in real life as well. Cherry picks fights. Dodging Pac Man in his prime and refusing to fight Margarito. No one individual is bigger than the sport, but he thinks he is. I think hes a terrible role model for up and coming boxers. I could be biased though. Thanks for the reply Tony. Big fan!!
@RodneyKing-kz3ym
@RodneyKing-kz3ym 3 ай бұрын
Floyd took Conor away from MMA while he was in his prime? So you blame Floyd for another man opting NOT to defend his titles, and not the man himself, nor the organization that he is a champion in? It’s Floyd’s fault? I’m sorry brother, but I couldn’t even get past that point to read the rest. I know people hate on Floyd, but my gosh. People criticize his personal life, but you would struggle to find a fighter who didn’t have dirt on their name. It’s just the media loves to highlight Floyd, and angry fans love to rally against him. “He took McGregor away from MMA…” 🤣
@Solis357
@Solis357 3 ай бұрын
Critique em all u want i guarantee he would piece u up
@lovefrompraha
@lovefrompraha 3 ай бұрын
Well.... who's the undefeated world champion in multiple weight classes, and who isn't?
@andreiprigorsky3123
@andreiprigorsky3123 2 ай бұрын
It worked for him because he had frail hands
@beasten7593
@beasten7593 3 ай бұрын
What is your record
@charlesard8639
@charlesard8639 4 ай бұрын
Where can we get them t shirts, man?. They are cool.
@Tony_Jeffries
@Tony_Jeffries 4 ай бұрын
It's in my shop mate, please check my channel 👊🏻
@asswuppin
@asswuppin 3 ай бұрын
Anyone remember the lead up to the Mayweather/Hatton fight .. where Ricky Hatton was making fun of the mitt work? And then after Floyd knocked him out, Hatton fired his trainer, hired Big Floyd, and we saw Hatton doing the mitt work? Hahahaha .. There's a method to the Mayweather madness .. and some people understand that nothing succeeds like success. You ain't gonna get more successful than Little Floyd ...
@lsf9818
@lsf9818 3 ай бұрын
No Tony , the pads work was great for Floyd, maybe not for others. At the Floyd is 50 - 0 , & a Hall of Famer! Also his uncle was a 2 division champion.
@ArtistDaynz90
@ArtistDaynz90 4 ай бұрын
I don't remember him doing any of that against Gatti though lol. I do remember Gattis corner throwing in the towel against Gattis wishes just off of a soft brittle hand Floyd body shot. "We got a word for that in anglish, it's called suh-spicious" lol. Yes Gatti was being outboxed and yes Floyd was probably gonna win anyways, but still.
@UseYourIllusions78
@UseYourIllusions78 4 ай бұрын
Fighters have been actors for yrs now ...scripted junk ...since Ali ....challange any one of use to watch 10 random Ali fights an tell me they weren't ghost k.o's lol ...slow motion an frame by frame proves there just a step up from wrestlers ....any one who can run a computer can see Ali , an this clown king of no touch k.o's 😂😂😂
@DannishPlaysReturns
@DannishPlaysReturns 4 ай бұрын
Greasy Fast
@michaeljmorris2874
@michaeljmorris2874 3 ай бұрын
What was Floyd 50-0 right? Are we even thinking about ridiculous this topic is it worked for him beautifully who in the world can sit there and say it’s not how you should do it
@user-mi7bk5ie6r
@user-mi7bk5ie6r 4 ай бұрын
Sorry, I will disagree on that one. While I agree Floyd contradicts himself a bit, I think therenis different use of mitt work. It might be to train reflexes, drill in a certain combo that you cinsider useful against the next opponent, or drill out a bad habit. Just hybseeing footage and criticise on that feels a bit too simple for me.
@jacobharris954
@jacobharris954 4 ай бұрын
Let's see he has been doing for near twenty years and develops motor skills, that is not what he said.
@delpierro213
@delpierro213 4 ай бұрын
What do you think about Manny pacquiao ABS routine ? Good or bad for amateurs ? 😮
@Tony_Jeffries
@Tony_Jeffries 4 ай бұрын
I'll check that out mate
@liukang85
@liukang85 4 ай бұрын
maybe it's just for the camera
@VTVT1306
@VTVT1306 4 ай бұрын
It was just for show, Roger doing all the work.
@lightified3815
@lightified3815 4 ай бұрын
I’ve been struggling with doing mitt work at the my gym. I find it hard keeping my punches accurate and managing distance so that my knuckles land flush on the pad, and my punches usually get smothered by the mitts. Most of the time my elbows are still bent and I can’t fully extend my punches. Any tips? I’ve been thinking of getting a double end bag to improve my timing and accuracy.
@sanctuary3059
@sanctuary3059 4 ай бұрын
You're the real champ Tony, thank you!!!
@pinkithecat9101
@pinkithecat9101 4 ай бұрын
Tony can you check RAAB boxing coach and tell us is it good , channel is about soviet style boxing
@Joe-s6l4m
@Joe-s6l4m 3 ай бұрын
Your crazy, Floyd was the greatest of all time, you need to stop hating
@mrh4nma
@mrh4nma 3 ай бұрын
This is note hate, this is a fact, this is a bad padwork, Floyd is great, But this mitt work is terrible.
@chrisjonson3820
@chrisjonson3820 3 ай бұрын
Yeah to be fair it works for him and that silly punch counter device that’s ridiculous it’s bullshit padwork I think he did it as his hands were crumbling he pull counter pad work was good the old stuff but yes mostly bullshit.
@manubishe
@manubishe 4 ай бұрын
Care to take a view at a Soviet boxing coach? Mark Meltzer
@Tony_Jeffries
@Tony_Jeffries 4 ай бұрын
I''ll check that out mate, thanks
@jayluis189
@jayluis189 4 ай бұрын
You're gonna piss off "some" people 🙄😒
@PlanetNamek-qb9ry
@PlanetNamek-qb9ry 4 ай бұрын
4:21 hawk tuha
@TheAbysssarian
@TheAbysssarian 3 ай бұрын
*Smell the hate*
@brianmitchell8477
@brianmitchell8477 3 ай бұрын
I remember watching you. I watched a lot of video on you also. Boxing skills, you and Floyd weren't even on the same planet!. You're closer than most though. And you're 100% right. To bad your hands kept breaking because you were a good fighter. Hard puncher! I believe you could've been a serious contender. Bernard Hopkins would've been tough for you though. I bet you are wonderful fitness coach! Enjoyed your the video.
@Jeff-st9km
@Jeff-st9km 4 ай бұрын
The list at 1:05 fucking laughable
@studiedWonder
@studiedWonder 4 ай бұрын
Haha good call , I wouldn’t have even looked. ‘De La Hoya at 9 !???? 🙂‍↔️ tsk tsk
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