Do NOT Make This Mistake with Your Canon R6

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Katelyn James

Katelyn James

Күн бұрын

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@diannegreene8840
@diannegreene8840 2 жыл бұрын
I had this problem once and I now have my camera setting that prevents this. I have the R5 so I am not sure if the menu numbers are exactly the same, but under the orange menu # 2, there is “Set Shutter Speed Range.” I have it set to 1/125 so I won’t drop below that by accident. Sometimes I will set it to 1/250 or 1/500 depending on the type of session I am depending on the session type I am doing. I only need to take it off if I am doing landscape with a tripod or something.
@nfenton
@nfenton 2 жыл бұрын
This is in the same menu location on the R6 as well.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea!!
@innessa1996
@innessa1996 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! I had no idea this was even an option
@astridtermaat3854
@astridtermaat3854 2 жыл бұрын
With this option, the ISO mostly is to high.. I shoot often on auto ISO and in that menu (I believe the second option in de red menu) you can also set the minimum shutterspeed at 1/125
@luv2cre82
@luv2cre82 2 жыл бұрын
I use this too although I program it so it doesn't drop below 1/60th of a second. If I bump up against 1/60th, I can manually override it or simply bump my iso, etc. Works like a charm!
@keithspillett5298
@keithspillett5298 2 жыл бұрын
I was a full-time pro photographer for nearly 50 years, shooting on everything from 10"x8" through roll film to 35mm to mirrorless of various sensor sizes. I really can't understand the fixation on using the slowest possible iso settings on modern mirrorless cameras. Even later generation micro four thirds don't start showing major noise problems until north of 3200 iso, so a camera like the R6 should be happily usable up to iso settings of at least 1000-1200 these days. 1000 is becoming the new 100!
@lostside
@lostside 2 жыл бұрын
It is perfectly usable over 1k. Personally though im not aiming for usable or ok. i aim for excellent and extraordinary. that is why i shoot at the lowest possible iso
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@getmarked
@getmarked 2 жыл бұрын
I have R6 and I am not afraid of 8000 iso.. it looks fantastic.. chasing lowest ISO is amateurish imo.
@kevintimmons446
@kevintimmons446 2 жыл бұрын
I guess it's because times and tech have moved on so much therefore so have client expectations. The last thing you want is the client thinking they could have done better on their phone.
@travelexplore9724
@travelexplore9724 2 жыл бұрын
@@getmarked All these reviewers are paid behind by someone… I can achieve same results with R6 like with an R5… Hided marketing for crazy gear…. She doesn’t relay on pro, she relays on new guys who are feeding this companies with crazy gear and they don’t use all the benefits… There is a crazy potential by R6 and you can create the nicest pictures in the worlds with this full-frame!
@patrickelliott-brennan8960
@patrickelliott-brennan8960 2 жыл бұрын
You know when you go on KZbin and see a new post by someone you follow and it literally speaks to something you've been experiencing? This :)
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Patrick!!
@katasticone
@katasticone 2 жыл бұрын
I dug through 600 comments so you don't have to lol. Here are the various tips people suggested on workflow: 1) Set a minimum shutter of 125 or 150 in camera settings menu (esp if you're changing lenses, 1x focal length gets dicey) and use Auto ISO. This works for M or Av or Sv. 2) Shoot manual. Set shutter first (either 1x focal length or whatever will stop/blur motion as desired). Set aperture manually. Auto ISO. Adjust brightness with shutter speed. 3) Same as above, but control exposure with exposure compensation. Many suggested putting a max on ISO in settings menu if you're concerned on auto ISO (either 6400 or 12800), but others said Topaz and other tools are great and they don't get a ceiling on ISO.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Kathie!
@JoHuff27
@JoHuff27 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, done this exact same thing several times and have upped my iso too to give me that extra wiggle room. Glad I’m not alone!
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I am not alone too!
@agustintamez7411
@agustintamez7411 9 ай бұрын
I'm starting my photographer journey with a R6, and I've had this low shutter problem, this video is a very good reminder for being aware to avoid this issue in the future, thank you very much.
@AnandaGarden
@AnandaGarden 2 жыл бұрын
Essential advice. Thanks for reminding us of the dangers of the EVF (and, come to think of it, DSLR finders, too)! I started in sports photography as a staff photographer at Runner's World, at a time when the company had five sports magazines. At the time, the "one-over" rule was prevalent ("Shoot at 1/250 with a 200mm lens, 1/50 with a 50mm," etc.), and I, in time, learned that it is complete folly, especially for sports! Okay, so you CAN shoot at 1/50 and get sharp pix. Good for you, now tell me your keeper rate... After 56 years in photography, what matters to me is SHARP images. It's why I would NEVER shoot in aperture-priority except in very rare, slow-moving circumstances (posed groups, etc.). The sharp image-lover's motto is: "Happiness begins at 1/500. Bliss begins at 1/1000. Ecstasy happens at 1/1600 and faster." It's a question of deciding when depth of field really matters. Great photos are about One Thing, and many, many times my photos are improved with a fast shutter and narrow depth. Thank heaven, as a utility photographer with mostly journalism-style assignments, ISO isn't as critical as it is for weddings. Okay, end of rant. Your work, including your service to photographers, is wonderful. Thank you! P.S. You helped me choose the R6 - thank you for that; I'm finding the R6 a hoot.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Amanda!!
@AnandaGarden
@AnandaGarden 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Katelyn. I don't usually blab away, but I spent years getting slightly fuzzy pix from too-slow shutter speeds and only discovered what "sharp and professional" meant when I accidentally set 1/500 one day with a 200mm. Always eager to help others learn quicker than I.
@JoshAmes1980
@JoshAmes1980 2 жыл бұрын
In general this rule works, but only for still subjects. Sports photography is completely different.
@kirkdarling4120
@kirkdarling4120 2 жыл бұрын
@Ananda Garden what you call the "one-over" rule had validity back in that day (I was there, too) when 35mm images were rarely enlarged more than 10x. Maybe we might go to a 16s20 print, but normally we stuck to 8x10 or 11x14. And it was about hand holding on a still subject, not a moving subject. Even then, I remember a Modern Photography magazine article comparing shooting on a tripod with shooting handheld with the "one-over" rule, and as enlargements went over 10x the superiority of the tripod was profoundly obvious.
@AnandaGarden
@AnandaGarden 2 жыл бұрын
I was working for a magazine publisher in the early 1970s who would flat-out turn down any photos that weren't razor sharp. Gosh I was a slow learner. But he was right. Also, the Kirk accessories folks did a study back then that showed even at 1/500 a person's breathing, heartbeat, and general jitters could all degrade sharpness. Please, Canon, remove all shutter speeds slower than 1/1000 from Servo mode. (I'm joking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
@vanessajergensen2774
@vanessajergensen2774 2 жыл бұрын
I literally just ran into this the other day at my first wedding of the season and realized it when I got home! For the same reasons you mentioned! I used to be more aware of shutter and the sound, like you said, so this is super helpful to be more aware of and I'm glad you highlighted it! Great thing to keep in mind and be more aware of as I'm getting used to the R6. Thank you!
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@julioyanez9665
@julioyanez9665 2 жыл бұрын
I'm beginning with an r6 , its a wonderfull camera and didnt realized this was happen to me too. Your work is awesome.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@teddyhaseltine6288
@teddyhaseltine6288 2 жыл бұрын
This has been my biggest problem with mirrorless this far. It has made me so discouraged. Thank you for making this video! Has me less discouraged about my abilities knowing it is happening to others too
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@victoriacrocker5683
@victoriacrocker5683 Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more, since it’s been a year since this video, do you have anymore tips to combat this? Sometimes my shutter is nearer 300 and still get this issue
@glynnischristensenphotogra8791
@glynnischristensenphotogra8791 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your transparency and willingness to share this video. I was JUST telling my husband yesterday (before watching this video) that I had made a similar mistake and I was devastated when I saw the images post-processing. Luckily it was a teeny tiny portion of the overall gallery, but I was so disappointed...and the situation overall made me question myself and my skill level. Truly, this video was such an encouragement to me - and super helpful to think ahead of time how I can avoid the mistake again in the future. Thank you KJ!
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@DThomasPorter
@DThomasPorter 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic advice. I thought for minute or two that you were watching me over my shoulder. I "eliminated" the problem by going to manual and allowing ISO to adjust. Another advantage of the superior sensor compared to 15-20 years ago.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@goodvibetribe7988
@goodvibetribe7988 Жыл бұрын
This just happened to me. I just got my R6 a couple months ago and a shoot I did recently I accidentally had my shutter speed at 1/60 and it was a super overwhelming session! I need to slow down and chill. Thanks for this video 🤍
@danielthomas7747
@danielthomas7747 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you because I know that i am not alone... Very frustrating when you get home.... very good way to talk about this subject... thank you.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Daniel!
@katinabianca
@katinabianca 2 жыл бұрын
Ok thank god I’m not the only one that is having these issues! Thanks to your advice I also went mirrorless and got the R6 (had the 70D up until now) and I’m having the exact same problem 😩 I really still have to adjust to life with this camera because after 11 years of perfecting DSLR I feel like I almost have to start all over. But good to know others also struggle with this 🙏🏼
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Good to hear!
@hannahholland3049
@hannahholland3049 2 жыл бұрын
I always make this same mistake -- thank you so much for not only identifying the problem, but also sharing a really great solution!
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Hannah!
@1NATURELOVERJ
@1NATURELOVERJ 2 жыл бұрын
Such a great point. My 1st wedding with the R, I had set it to "silent shooting" and was shooting an indoor 1st look at 1/15. Such a painful lesson.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
I know right!!
@TechTainmentAI
@TechTainmentAI 2 жыл бұрын
Your voice and general command on speech is so soothing and professional, very unlike some of the other channels. Thank you for educating and sharing your findings with us Katelyn. Wish you well ! :)
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@jlawr4427
@jlawr4427 2 жыл бұрын
I never run into this issue anymore with my R5/R6. I set manual Shutter Speed, manual Aperture and AUTO ISO. I use the large wheel on the back of the camera to + or - exposure. I take the shot. When I get home, I let my photos be automatically processed in "DxO PureRAW 2" software. Then I move to LR or PS. PureRAW fixes any noise in my photos regarless of any "high" ISO settings. You are right, We can't fix subject movement or camera shake, but we can eliminate noise, even up to ISO 10k! Please don't get stuck on manual ISO. These cameras are so good, there are ways around the fear of noise. I hope you get to try this.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@jlawr4427
@jlawr4427 2 жыл бұрын
@@KatelynJames Thanx for trying to reply.
@lisawilliams1750
@lisawilliams1750 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Katelyn! A lightbulb just went off for me. I just did a graduation session and noticed that there were numerous images that weren't as sharp as I am used too with my R6. Normally getting 99% tack sharp images, my last session was a little off, now I realize that I wasn't paying attention to my shutter speed. Very helpful review!
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@saralleverino
@saralleverino 2 жыл бұрын
I've made this mistake many times with my R6 for the same reasons as you. That's actually how I discovered the beauty behind the combined image stabilization of my RF 70-200 f/2.8 and the IBIS. I accidentally shot the end of a session at 1/40 of a second once and only had to throw out about 25% of those photos due to motion blur. I breathed a sigh of relief, but I love the idea of giving me some shutter speed buffer next time. Great tip! I wish there was like a shutter speed warning indicator for times like this.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea!
@jhyphoto6126
@jhyphoto6126 2 жыл бұрын
You have hit the nail on the head! So much so, a few months back I changed my minimum shutter speed in the settings menus to prevent this happening when I’m distracted. Certainly feel better knowing I’ve not been alone in this. Also, wish Canon would let you fine tune the minimum shutter speed. The jumps, within the menu, are quite large. Would be handy to have this as a favourite or quick menu option, changing if need be before each session.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@FabienMathey
@FabienMathey 2 жыл бұрын
I see there are already some people telling about the "set shutter speed range". I would also suggest to use auto ISO. I don't remember what the setting is on Canon, but the auto range can be set too. With modern full frame cameras, ISO 6400, sometimes even 12800 are perfectly fine, even for larger prints (A4, A3). I usually use the range of 100-6400 as auto ISO on my camera (not R6) and it can be set to what ever you like. I hope this works also on the R6. But you indeed highlighted one of the main drawbacks with the EVF for sure... thanks for the video!
@mrfightgreg
@mrfightgreg 2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@ven1536
@ven1536 11 ай бұрын
I don’t personally think we should be having to set this limitations with this latest technology and for the price these companies charge DSLRs were so much more accurate 😊
@biankahaenisch9937
@biankahaenisch9937 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’m grateful to know I wasn’t the only one having this problem!!!
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@scoylephoto
@scoylephoto 2 жыл бұрын
This is such a validating video for me. I catch myself doing this when I am working in a fast-paced environment but never figured out what the issue was until now! Thank you so much for this video!!
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
You're so welcome!
@MrJeffinLodi
@MrJeffinLodi 2 жыл бұрын
I think your comment about hearing the shutter speed is spot on.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@mrfightgreg
@mrfightgreg 2 жыл бұрын
I love your R6 videos! Shutter speed is arguably the #1 priority setting when shooting. start with shutter speed, then aperture, then iso. Another viewer recommends using the shutter speed setting in auto-iso. That's a great tip!
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@audreyrice996
@audreyrice996 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I just took some portrait shots yesterday, and had this same exact issue. I felt like such a moron, but I'm feeling better now knowing that even a professional like you is making the same mistake. Thanks for your candor and honesty regarding this issue. And like you, I'm using to shooting with a 5D Mark IV, and I'm loving this camera.
@AllgoodthingsTv
@AllgoodthingsTv 2 жыл бұрын
What a great video! I watch a lot of the photography channels and I have not seen this subject discussed yet. It's not just an R6 problem, it's a Canon mirrorless issue in general (I shoot with the R5). And it's a problem for the exact reasons you state: 1) there is no double checking the LCD in the same way you would with a DSLR which would slow you down, and 2) there is no audible trigger for the slow shutter speed you would hear and feel with a DSLR or film camera. The other thing is that the super bright, beautiful image in the mirrorless viewfinder is deceiving. You cannot detect that incurable motion blur you will see the moment you open the images on a big monitor at home. Further complicating matters is that Canon's best RF glass is heavy and the Reciprocal Rule for lenses does not apply. If you're shooting with RF 50mm f/1.2, 1/100th shutter will not do. You need 1/250 or 1/500.
@wilhelmrosenthal1305
@wilhelmrosenthal1305 Жыл бұрын
Yea but shouldn’t the IBIS allow you to shoot at low shutter speeds ? The IBIS should give you 5 stops of stabilization
@LeighAnnMiller
@LeighAnnMiller Жыл бұрын
I feel like this is a user error. The more you photograph you should know what shutter speed you need. I think the problem is instead of thinking about and understanding the triad photographers are using all these new capabilities of the mirrorless cameras as a crutch instead of taking the time to learn how to compose a shot because seeing things in real time enables you to not have to understand and visualize a shot before you take it. I love the new technology but it also seems like people are loosing skills or never really developing them because they’re not having to use it.
@ven1536
@ven1536 11 ай бұрын
Yes! And additionally if you decide oh well let’s choose a lighter lens like the 35mm 1.8 it is slow and shit! I am disappointed majorly with the mirrorless technology I think a lot of people will end up going back to dslr
@mostlymessingabout
@mostlymessingabout 8 ай бұрын
Why do you need higher shutter speed with mirrorless? Surely there is far less bounce?
@johnhoey4605
@johnhoey4605 2 жыл бұрын
This happened more times with my R5 than I care to admit. I think you’re right; but for me, it’s a matter of accidentally touching the screen and making unwanted adjustments. Perhaps it’s still just a matter of getting used to the new camera. I bought it last August-but I’ve been a Canon DSLR shooter for decades. These cameras are really a brand new paradigm.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching John!
@johnhoey4605
@johnhoey4605 2 жыл бұрын
@@KatelynJames and thank YOU for making such great videos with informative content, Katelyn.
@javieralejandroacuna3908
@javieralejandroacuna3908 2 жыл бұрын
I love mi Mark4 but I think it’s time to change..I just bought the R6 and I’m very happy for it 😊 I’ll shoot a wedding next weekend so wish me luck 🍀
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@mendelsphotography
@mendelsphotography 2 жыл бұрын
I also Had the same Issue with My R6 I think its more then 1 thing But Fully understand you and agree. I Myself start shooting at ISO 200 or 250 and then using a higher shutter speed like 1/400 or 1/500 when doing street photography. Plus using the lock button but changing to allow only shutter speed has helped me a lot.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@stevenhebron816
@stevenhebron816 2 жыл бұрын
Since we’re all being honest, I have had the same problem. Raising the ISO to 250 is a great idea. Thank you and I’m subscribing to your channel.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
All about the honesty!!
@kseniavanderhoff4850
@kseniavanderhoff4850 2 жыл бұрын
Same with Nikon. Exactly as you describe it! I also made the same mental note TO CHECK THE SHUTTER!
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@alanm.6096
@alanm.6096 Жыл бұрын
Some excellent points that cannot be repeated enough. I have ALWAYS made it a practice to hit the Q button to quickly scan all the data on that screen. I don't know how many times the RAW setting was accidentally changed, or the one shot vs servo might have been changed, etc. I recommend you always start your day with the Q, and then repeat if you turn the camera off/on. I know in some circumstances, if, say you're hiking and you swing the camera over so it is resting on your back, there is a good chance you're going to push a button, rotate the control wheel, swing the joystick, etc. It's always a good idea to kill the camera when you have a void in the action, as mirrorless chews up the battery faster than the DSLR...and hit the Q button for a short visit. Best insurance policy I know of. Other than that, look to the Lock button as an alternate option. Katelyn is quite right about the 'feel' of the MarkIV for low shutter speeds...perhaps Canon can make the R6 groan when you drop below a set value.
@youknowwho9247
@youknowwho9247 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I shoot on aperture priority and not full manual with mirrorless. There's really no benefit to setting ISO manually ever, and the only thing shutter speed does is prevent motion blur and camera shake, so I simply set a lower limit (I think it's called "shutter speed range" on Canon). This way the system does exactly what I'd do in manual, which is after I've set aperture for whatever I want creatively, keep ISO as low as possible while using a shutter speed that avoids blur. Except I barely have to worry about my settings anymore, all I do is change aperture depending on how much depth of field I want and adjust minimum shutter speed down when people are still in dark environments and up when people are moving a lot (like dancing).
@techfortogs
@techfortogs Жыл бұрын
for me as a photographer of 15 years plus. Iso is always the first thing I would look to change on my R6 AFTER setting and forgetting my shutter speed and F Stop. Iso 6400 is still greatly useable (although if you're somewhere where you're using that iso setting then ideally I'd be using helper light). Great video though Katelyn
@LuisFernando-lj5tw
@LuisFernando-lj5tw 2 жыл бұрын
I think that issue can happen with more canon models. If i am not mistaken you have to take care if you use Canon R and i think Canon 5D mark IV to. Correct me if i am wrong
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Totally True!
@SarahClaire
@SarahClaire 2 жыл бұрын
I have had this exact problem! This is exactly what I have been reading with. I have been reminding myself of the exact same thing at my sessions now!
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I am not alone!
@kalaknowlton8250
@kalaknowlton8250 Жыл бұрын
This is so helpful to know as I just got my R6 markii and am learning all about it today. Thank you for all of your videos!
@robmcd
@robmcd 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve not yet worked out the best ISO on my R5, but ISO 640 on Sony and Fuji cameras are cleaner than ISO 320… so set it to 640 to give you more latitude adjusting shutter if you shoot like Kaitlyn. I shoot in Av or M with automatic ISO with it set to 200-6400; it’s 200 because I have highlight tone priority set for a more “film look highlight”
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@emanuelguevaramusic
@emanuelguevaramusic 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much that explains why I was having this same issue when I took my R6 to the Zoo.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped
@jgranseth
@jgranseth 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting video, thanks for sharing. I think you're doing it a bit backwards though. My tip: set the aperture, set a fast enough shutter speed, and then adjust exposure with ISO. Only Adjust your shutter speed if the lowest ISO renders an over exposed image, or if you want to be creative and freeze rapid motions, or show motion with a slow shutter speed. This is how I'm working pretty much all the time, and I'm shooting lots of very fast paced stuff, including live music, dance performances and documentary style weddings and events.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@fanz9041
@fanz9041 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you.
@imagentv3768
@imagentv3768 2 жыл бұрын
I did a lot of events shooting many years ago with a 5Dmk3, I got into the habit to set my aperture and shutter and only change the ISO, the highest ISO I used was 6400, but mostly up to 3200, I find the image is still very good at 3200, with the R6 6400 is great. I found that way of shooting very fast and effective for me anyway.
@darkerarts
@darkerarts 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Changing the shutter speed is a rookie mistake. I do the same with an R.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@surhit
@surhit 2 жыл бұрын
@@darkerarts Really, thats what I've been doing all my life lol.
@surhit
@surhit 2 жыл бұрын
Im very serious about my ISO, I try to keep it at 100-400, never ever thought of relying on ISO rather than Shutter or Aperture.
@imagentv3768
@imagentv3768 2 жыл бұрын
It all depends on the gear you have, I can push up to 6400 no problem but I try to stay at 3200 and below. My camera native ISO is 800, and it is my favorite ISO setting when possible.
@mccloskeyjl
@mccloskeyjl 2 жыл бұрын
I love your honesty. It's so wonderful, because I can relate. Thank you for the video.
@loltimno
@loltimno 2 жыл бұрын
I do the same thing on my Z7ii and Z9. You nailed the mirror feedback - I think that’s the feedback you miss, especially with the Z9 as it’s entirely shutterless. It’s just something I need to be aware of.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@markwillride
@markwillride 2 жыл бұрын
Been there done that. Setting a minimum helps. It happened on the old 5d too for me. After you get burned a few times you get more wary. Makes you feel like a novice. I recently realized I almost never use the meter any more. The histogram and exposure simulation has taken its place. The meter (spot) is still useful to precisely place the dress on the upper edge of the usable highlights. You can set iso steps to a full stop which greatly speeds isn’t changed. You’re right that iso 200 and 250 are practically the same quality. Even a full step under 1600 doesn’t change very much. Thank you for sharing your experience.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@AdrianBacon
@AdrianBacon 2 жыл бұрын
I set the shutter and aperture to what is most appropriate for the DOF/lens and amount of movement I'm expecting to stop, then set the ISO to auto and control the brightness with exposure compensation. Two bright? negative exposure compensation until it looks right. Two dark? Positive exposure compensation until it looks right. Err on having a faster shutter than normal so you don't run into the bottom end of the ISO range during brighter light shoots, otherwise, set the shutter to 1/focal length and forget it, and let the brightness change with ISO from exposure compensation. There's a lot of ways to get there, so really, it's whatever works.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@martinashworth5440
@martinashworth5440 2 жыл бұрын
Why not just set a minimum shutter speed in camera so that you don’t have this issue ?
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
That is what I am learning! Thanks for sharing!
@kathynassa9974
@kathynassa9974 Жыл бұрын
Because light is constantly changing hense your shutter speed will need to change.
@sanellibic9569
@sanellibic9569 2 жыл бұрын
You can also set you min and max shutter speed in the menu, so it doesn't let you go lower that 1/200 for example.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! I just learned this and set is up this past weekend!
@ajbid805
@ajbid805 2 жыл бұрын
Great subject to talk about. The cameras should come out with a little red flashing sign that comes on when the camera ss gets below a designated ss that you set. Not super neccessary but could be a help.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea
@diggermolly5927
@diggermolly5927 2 жыл бұрын
Preach Girl, this has happened to me with this camera more than one time. You have to shoot this camera very deliberatly, paying attention constantly to your settings. Great point that might save some one from a fail moment.
@Skipsul
@Skipsul 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I run full manual - aperture, shutter, AND ISO. I simply have had too many times where Aperture Priority has either run the ISO to ridiculous levels (56k?), or it has dropped the shutter speed down to blurry levels. And it's been no better when sticking with shutter priority. Even when shooting events with lots of people moving around, and wonky and irregular lighting, running full manual on a mirrorless is so easy and quick that I can absolutely stay in the zone and focus on composition. Even if I "miss" a bit and undershoot, the dynamic range recovery of these cameras is to good that most of the time I can easily correct in post. I'm on a Sony, so cannot speak specifically to Canon controls (though I imagine they're pretty similar - Canon ergonomics have a good rep), but I've got two control wheels, one set to aperture, the other to shutter, with the ISO menu set to a button. Lets me stay in the zone while having total control.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and sharing!
@markwillride
@markwillride 2 жыл бұрын
You can still flick the shutter button one too many times to get your exposure looking good and not realize you set it too low. Even in manual. I think that’s her point and it’s how I’ve gone wrong a few times.
@SteveDisenhof
@SteveDisenhof 2 жыл бұрын
See my prior reply. I set my ISO to the maximum I think I will need and let it float from 100 to that maximum. (So I never run into ISO 56k.) The most important thing for our clients is to “get the shot.” As I said before, it is easy to fix noise these days, but even Topaz Sharpen Ai can’t fix a truly blurry photo.
@mferguson612
@mferguson612 2 жыл бұрын
Thank youuu! I’ve been having this problem during family sessions and have noticed it’s when I’m fast shooting and feeling anxious or overwhlemed and I start cranking those settings
@mferguson612
@mferguson612 2 жыл бұрын
Also since getting the R6! And only during family sessions
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Melissa!
@robertoegonzalez4096
@robertoegonzalez4096 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! I have the R6 and had the issue you are talking about. Increasing ISO great suggestion!
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@elinenijburg2773
@elinenijburg2773 2 жыл бұрын
Omg same for me! I never thought about the sound, but that makes sense because that was a warning for me too when I had the Mark IV. I just happen very quickly, but I learned the hard way haha and now I constantly watch my settings. I wish the sound was the same so we would notice it much faster
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!
@KtR1sk
@KtR1sk 10 ай бұрын
I mostly have the settings that it does not go below the aperture speed depending on the size of the lens, 1/60 if it is 50mm and if it is 100mm it does not go below 1/125, but it depends on what you are photographing. I think that IBIS helps, but probably only if the object is not moving
@ericnathanguel
@ericnathanguel Жыл бұрын
I've started doing a variation of the way you shoot: I set my shutter speed (usually 1/160), set my aperture (usually 2.8, 4, or 5.6, depending on the situation), and then I adjust my ISO on the fly. I'm not picky at all about ISO, and will regularly shoot up to 6,400 and beyond. With that said, I think I've made the exact mistake you mention here with my R6, and it happened when I didn't want to vary my ISO or aperture.
@danielazambrano4026
@danielazambrano4026 2 жыл бұрын
Me tooooo! My husband kept telling me not to do that once editing and realized I just started moving it without realizing I was getting so low! Good to know that it doesn’t only happen to me. xoxo sis!
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Nellekedw_wildlife
@Nellekedw_wildlife 2 жыл бұрын
Oooohhhh that explains.. i used to have tack sharp photos with my 5d3.. now with my R i change my shutterspeed all the time and they are less sharp than i was used to!
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@ccolt8460
@ccolt8460 2 жыл бұрын
While I am far from being a pro like you, here's my style of shooting: While I am in Manual, I am able to choose both my aperture and shutter speed and I have the camera choose the ISO by setting Auto ISO on. I will keep an eye out for an acceptable ISO, but I am primarily concerned about the other two settings.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@mjztx
@mjztx 2 жыл бұрын
I've done that a few times. I mostly shoot sessions in aperture priority. I usually just prioritize adjust ISO. It's easy to play with the compensation dial and then end up with a slow shutter speed. I agree about the ISO also. Up to 400 is pretty much clean.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@laurenprince139
@laurenprince139 Жыл бұрын
Same here. Aperture priority is where it's at!
@alexkkmkimo
@alexkkmkimo 2 жыл бұрын
That situation happened to me couple times. Thanks for sharing
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I am not alone!
@Hawkehaven2278
@Hawkehaven2278 2 жыл бұрын
you are such a GOOD teacher!!! just what I needed to hear. Thank you!
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@jamieheyl2620
@jamieheyl2620 2 жыл бұрын
I have made this mistake more than once with my Nikon mirrorless but I'm always stunned that I still manage to get at least one sharp image - that NEVER would have happened with my DSLR cameras! It's definitely a learning curve that I'm still working on LOL
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
You and me both!
@miss_jeannalee_20
@miss_jeannalee_20 2 жыл бұрын
I'm looking into getting this camera. Currently shooting on my over a decade old Rebel T3i, so anything is an upgrade, but this camera has EVERYTHING I need for my photography needs. I'm so glad you mentioned this issue because it makes so much sense! The ease of live view can be it's biggest caveat. Sometimes we rely too much on technology that we forget it can't read our minds (yet. Hahaha). I will always keep this in the back of my mind now whenever I finally get my new camera. THANK YOU! ❤️
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@jacobchristopherenriquez9932
@jacobchristopherenriquez9932 2 жыл бұрын
I was just looking at my recent family portrait and some of them are not sharp. I thought its my aging Sigma Lens but noticed I have a low shutter speed. You're right, a few bump on the ISO wont hurt and thats what I will do next time.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@nicholasdugdale
@nicholasdugdale 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Katelyn. Loving the videos. I just received my new Canon R6 today from B&H and just spent a good 8 hours learning every tab in the settings. There are loads of new impressive features compared to my Canon 6D that I have used since 2014 and it has reshaped the way I learn things with muscle memory. --- I firmly believe that the (3) Custom modes on the R6 are a huge life saver and super easy to access on the R6. I strongly recommend utilizing and customizing those (3) modes to suit your top 3 "styles" or to suit what's being shot. I found I never incorporated the 20fps electronic shutter in any of my custom modes simply because its too damn silent and I also prefer the slight audible shutter sound for confirmation. Another tip to avoid making mistakes is to elect to run the mode ring on the RF lenses in the OFF position with no feature (Both Stills and Video imo) Since this can easily be bumped and turned. We want to setup our cameras to be Stupid Simple so when under pressure we can find the right change with the flick of a switch. --- My primary suggestion would be to turn off the touch screen feature and scroll with the dials instead. This will limit any accidental selections on the touch screen and assure your settings are locked in. Plus, we are used to scrolling through settings with DSLR's it shouldn't be that big of an inconvenience. Anywho, I know these new R bodies are loaded with new tech and miles different from what we are used to running and gunning with. I hope some of this helps you figure out how to refine your camera settings. Your videos inspired me to buy the R6 for wedding photography by the way! (These things are impressive)
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@wyrmmm
@wyrmmm 2 жыл бұрын
I thought I was the only one to get home an notice in sharp images. Over shot, over shot, over shot we are in the digital era new problems require new solutions. I have recently started using H+, with a quick squeeze of the trigger you can get 3-4 shots with one or two always very sharp. I’ve done this at two events now and it works flawlessly. As you can set up a range for you shutter as someone else has said.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@VanceStrickland
@VanceStrickland 2 жыл бұрын
Good point! I started experimenting with Fv mode on the R6 - hard-setting the Fstop and Shutter speed and letting the ISO float. This is for outdoors stuff where I want a specific F-stop and don't want to exceed the X-sync of 1/200 (because I don't want to strobe the poor subject). So if I'm shooting someone in a bright area, then swing around and photograph someone in a much darker vendor booth the ISO compensates. RISK: noise, but you can limit the upper end of the Auto-ISO range to what suits your taste. I'm not "locked-in" on this yet - I'm still experimenting at this stage. Just an idea.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Cotictimmy
@Cotictimmy 2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting stuff - I'm still on D3S, D4 and have not gone mirrorless yet.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
They are amazing cameras!
@ritrattoaziendale
@ritrattoaziendale 2 жыл бұрын
There's a very nice menu feature that turns off Exposure Sim; that's the very first thing I did after unboxing my R6. If u are in the field since 13yrs, you just don't need ExpSim; you gotta know what's dialled in your camera. It's too "easy" looking the Sim on screen, it gets you lazy and dependent from the camera. You dial in the setting based on experience and light metering, and camera executes; don't let the camera lead your work, be in control.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@mitchkite9354
@mitchkite9354 2 жыл бұрын
I have also had this occasionally happen when I switched from my DSLR to my mirrorless. I also try to be more aware of my settings, but have also set a minimum Shutter Speed to avoid going too low.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
GREAT IDEA!
@MrTomb1976
@MrTomb1976 2 жыл бұрын
i had that happen a few times on the DSLRs in the past, getting the shutter speed to slow, i do shoot with the R6 now and i now set my F stop and shutter speed and ill make my changes with the ISO, normally flipping between 100 up to 800 or so, if i have to start pulling to much on the ISO then ill revisit my shutter speed 2ed and my F stop 3rd normally, on the R6 im comfortable shooting up to 2000 when i need to and know its still normally going to be pretty clean
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@brendabustamante2198
@brendabustamante2198 2 жыл бұрын
Where was this video last week? I had this exact problem for the first time during one of my shoots 😣😣😣
@lorim2000
@lorim2000 Жыл бұрын
The good news is (and I've done this exact same thing at portrait sessions) that the R6 actually shows you lag through the screen when it thinks your shutter is getting too slow, for me on my R6 it happens at about 1/150...it'll literally start moving slowing on my screen. Without that clue I probably wouldn't notice sometimes!
@xringassassin
@xringassassin 2 жыл бұрын
I’m unsure if it’s been mentioned, I don’t want to read 548 comments… buuut if you hit “silent lv” in menu, mode 1 is electronic front curtain, OFF will make it sound DSLR~ish and you can hear when the shutter speed is dragged (makes two snaps when it opens and closes). Disabling silent lv also helps bokeh, and has been known to lessen (or cure) banding when shooting strobes in HSS.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much John!
@xringassassin
@xringassassin 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! One mistake though I didn't know, Canon finally changed "silent lv" to "shutter mode" on r5/r6 so it makes sense. "Mechanical" is the option where shutter will sound like you're used to. My apologies.
@christynicole7818
@christynicole7818 2 жыл бұрын
So glad you mentioned this Katelyn! I thought I was the only one who did this. Its happened to me a few times and I had to remind myself to adjust the ISO instead of the shutter. I will say though the few photos I shot with my 85mm at 1/30th of a second lol actually came out in focus and sharp. I could never do that with my old 5D Mark IV.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thats amazing!
@dalejrfanfreak
@dalejrfanfreak 2 жыл бұрын
I agree...it's so easy to forget about shutter speed when it looks perdy in the viewfinder.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@a73210
@a73210 2 жыл бұрын
I had the same problem while covering the groom’s entry… shutter went all the way to 1/60. I use tamron 20-70 vc which helped to balance the shake, however to overcome this problem in future I have set my minimum shutter to 125th of sec. **Second tab on orange section under custom settings **
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@carlosread5887
@carlosread5887 2 жыл бұрын
I know exactly what you were talking about. Same thing happens to me more often than what i like to admit. in very well lit situations (like a pre wedding shoot at the beach), what I have decided to do is fix my speed at 1/200, and my lens aperture at 2.8 or 4.0, and let the camera select the ISO for me. If the sun is too bright, I would put a neutral density filter to my lens, and forget about the rest! Try it! Just today, I was shooting indoors, and I decided to freeze my shutter speed at 1/60, and in some occasions , the camera was shooting at ISO 2,000. I was surprised how little grain those pictures have!
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@andrewelder2739
@andrewelder2739 2 жыл бұрын
I just got my R6 this week, and I'm LOVING your videos on it! I'm particularly glad I saw this one, as I've never used a mirrorless before and could 100% see myself having done this! Also, thanks not just for the warning, but giving good tips to avoid it.
@lorenzoburkes8719
@lorenzoburkes8719 9 ай бұрын
How’s it going I’m thinking of buying one
@andrewelder2739
@andrewelder2739 9 ай бұрын
@@lorenzoburkes8719 great! I love it. Definitely get the mark 2 if you're buying one now. Lots of small upgrades for a pretty small price difference.
@anastasiao9821
@anastasiao9821 2 жыл бұрын
Katelyn, thank you SO much for all these videos and sharing the wealth of knowledge. It’s like you a sweet every single question I have. You are so experienced and I appreciate you sharing the wealth of knowledge. This video is just what I needed to boost my confidence and make changes in the next shoot. Appreciate you lots!!
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Anastasia!
@jillschindel2832
@jillschindel2832 2 жыл бұрын
Yes this is a familiar issue to me with the switch from DSLR to mirrorless. Just too easy to just nudge the various dials until everything looks right in the EVF. What's interesting to me is that I arrived at similar workarounds as you.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Fifthimagez
@Fifthimagez 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this was great very helpful.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@williamconfer9802
@williamconfer9802 2 жыл бұрын
AGAIN! What a great teacher! You simplify everything.. I have done the same thing... Thanks for the video.. pH org. Ohio
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@TheFedoraMedia
@TheFedoraMedia 2 жыл бұрын
Two things that also may help you or others Katelyn. 1. You can set your r6 to play the auto preview of the image to show in your viewfinder instead of the back of your screen. Some find it annoying but as long as you press half shutter or really anything it goes away right away so I find it super helpful for situations like this, and also I don't chimp anymore at all which I find looks a bit more professional. 2. One of the most important things I learned in a photojournalism workshop years ago that changed the way I shoot is to always take a minute and set your ISO to the darkest spot in your current scene and leave it there. So if say a room needs 1600 in the darkest area, then set it there and leave it at that until you leave that scene. It has made me a faster shooter at weddings as I don't fiddle with ISO once set and it help avoid low shutter speeds.
@Kritischer_Geist
@Kritischer_Geist 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much...
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@TheFedoraMedia
@TheFedoraMedia 2 жыл бұрын
@@KatelynJames your welcome :)
@peterprobst6307
@peterprobst6307 Жыл бұрын
@TheFedoraMedia- when reviewing a just taken image in the EVF vs the larger LCD screen, does the EVF provide enough detail to quickly determine whether the image has any blur or is otherwise unsharp?
@TheFedoraMedia
@TheFedoraMedia Жыл бұрын
@@peterprobst6307 I found it does for motion blur and general sharpness, if your shooting 1.4 and are checking if you hit focus then you will probably need the back of the screen and zoom in.
@taylor_imaging
@taylor_imaging 2 жыл бұрын
I shoot auto racing and shoot specifically in manual mode and tend to hit the iso wheel when walking around or on the golf cart
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@onlysublime
@onlysublime 2 жыл бұрын
I've had this happen to me but less so about shutter speed and more about iso. I'm a stickler about shutter speed because people move too much. However your only options then are aperture and iso. My aperture is as wide open as the number of subjects allow for. So in a fast high paced situation it's so easy to accidentally bump the iso high to get a decent exposure and you really can't see noise on a preview so you can lose sight of how much you can increase. People will mention that you can limit the iso range but sometimes you need that flexibility without spending time going into menus when too many things are happening very quickly.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@jamesseward9263
@jamesseward9263 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Katelyn, I feel your pain! Lol! This is why I shoot with auto ISO and use exposure compensation to adjust exposure and not the Shutter Speed. Like you said the sensors are so good now that there isn’t much difference in a few hundred bases points. Maybe give it a try and see how you like it? 😉
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@wanneske1969
@wanneske1969 Жыл бұрын
I just got an R6. The sensorstabilisation is amazing but it won't stop the movement of moving objects
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@wesleychapman9001
@wesleychapman9001 2 жыл бұрын
Super transparent and rad tips. Thanks!
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@TonyC0101
@TonyC0101 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know much about the R6, but I know some cameras have an Auto ISO feature where you can set the minimum shutter speed (to avoid camera shake) before it starts adding gain (sensitivity, noise, grain) to the images. Using that feature along with using the exposure compensation dial, almost guarantees that you won't have an image that has too low of a shutter speed.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@michaelscoots
@michaelscoots 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you should always be aware of where your shutter is no matter what. I never drop it below 200 unless I’m steady and using my 70-200 at the 70 end during a ceremony or if I’m using flash and my meter isn’t picking up on the ambient allowing me to drag my shutter. I’ll change ISO or aperture first before touching the shutter.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@RhettAnderson
@RhettAnderson 2 жыл бұрын
I've done this too. I shoot in Manual mode constantly with exposure preview. It's great, but I can get into the flow and not pay attention to the shutter speed.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@ScottShawPhoto
@ScottShawPhoto 2 жыл бұрын
Funny you mentioned this. My first outdoor portrait session I did this for the first shot with my 135 f/2 and realized it seemed like I had a slow shutter speed. Looked right away and it was iso 100 and not yet used to what controlled shutter vs. aperture I had turned it to f/13 at 1/30 sec. So I quickly fixed that and best of all I was surprised I had several sharp photos anyway!
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@CJB1103
@CJB1103 2 жыл бұрын
This makes me thankful that I picked up a mirrorless for my first camera. This is something I got adjusted to instead of checking exposure in my LCD. Still happens from time to time though. Just something we have to learn to deal with I guess
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@LenkaGuecker
@LenkaGuecker 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! Exactly what happened to me. Thank you for the tips.
@faithfulphotos
@faithfulphotos 2 жыл бұрын
This happened to me last week. Thank goodness I was shooting a baseball game and I noticed but it is an easy mistake to make.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@phayoun
@phayoun 2 жыл бұрын
It happened most of the times during low light situations. Shutter easier to change than ISO, but I don't to change aperture setting.
@KatelynJames
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
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