Do NOT Throw Urethane On A House Shot!!

[@miketra]

Really appreciate that you got 2 different lanes setup appropriately to actually demonstrate the difference. Some others would've just thrown urethane and reactive on the same lane instead. This was a much better demonstration.

[@danielwarnes862]

Only have one bowler in our group that throws urethane, and I've personally never had an issue with it. Use the ball that fits with the conditions. Love the videos 👌🏻👍🏻❤

[@bnuts677]

I use Urethane whenever I want to. Im A lefty so people really dont care unless i leave the 7 pin and throw backup . I think people should Practice more and learn to adjust no matter what ball others use.

[@Mityob67]

Agree with this 100%. Lefties are here to keep the world in balance.

[@joshgrim5324]

Awesome video, urethane has its place as to when it should be used. I don’t bowl league as of yet but hopefully soon. Congrats on 20K subscribers and congrats to whoever wins the giveaway!!

[@firstivuslastivus3349]

After not bowling for 20 years I'm finding out that there is a lot to learn about how the game has changed. How cool is it for me that I am learning by seeing you bull at the same center that I do ( the old Orange Bowl in Lakeland)! I have a Brunswick Evo reactive and a Hammer Black Pearl. I hardly ever through the hammer because I don't need that kind of friction at the front end in the afternoon before they oil for leagues. Even with the oil, I think I would move right and ride the oiled/dry divide. Best of luck to you Nate, and Elise, you add so much more for the women to learn. Looking forward to bumping into you two open bowling just to say hi and give you guys encouragement and thanks!

[@joshgrim5324]

@@firstivuslastivus3349 you and me both.

[@angelaholley5907]

I bought a urethane ball for my arsenal and never really knew when to use it. This video helped me to understand when to use it and what it actually does to the lane, thank you!

[@NateandElise]

Glad it helped!

[@jademiller2227]

These videos has helped me to prepare for anything, I do alot of sweepers on house shot lanes that people use urethane...I dont own a urethane but I know it make it difficult...because of this video I can adjust the right way!!!

[@NateandElise]

Means a lot! Thank you !

[@charlesbartholomew2910]

Haven't bowled in more than twenty years. When I did it was a black Hammer. Best game with it was a 246 with the first two frames open...Ouch! Lots of information here. Thanks for sharing!

[@waynethompson4946]

I only use urethane when I have to. My game just doesn’t match up. I don’t mind if someone else is using it, just makes me step up my game. Thank you for the effort to teach and not just sell stuff like a lot of other channels.

[@EchoTangoFuture7]

Keep doing what you both do so well and that is growing this great sport!

[@NateandElise]

Thank you! Will do!

[@cblackburn81]

As long as there's a southpaw option 😂 the joys of a being wrong handed, great info and content.

[@jnaydich6538]

I think people sometimes underestimate how useful a big dull chuggy ball can be when it comes to controlling a pattern front to back

[@NateandElise]

yes! Especially someone with speed!

[@michaelm7145]

Yesss!!! Thank you!!! Now I just need all the newbie two handlers at 4th Street Bowl in San Jose to see this and figure it out! 😂😂😂

[@aimanaminudin170]

I use urethane to combat over/under on THS.. and congrats on your 20k!

[@machinethesun9243]

Can you throw a symmetric solid to control over under?

[@kingpinproshops]

The final explanation was absolutely perfect! Surface of the ball is so important to achieve the desired reaction we want!!! And clarifying urethane is NOT meant for dry!!!

[@JinnTuXoXaan]

Not meant for dry when you throw the ball, but to others, it might work great on the dry! Learn to adjust like everyone else and quit trying to get people to play by your rules so that only you can benefit.

[@jamesfralick00]

Well said Jin! All I see is a bunch of crybabies

[@rc4361]

I just love the dynamic between you guys ❤❤

[@ericdelfosse6089]

Love the explanation! Actually learned how to combat urethane also. Thanks Elise

[@m325es]

Ty for this demo, it really helps clear up some of the misconceptions.

[@brianf3883]

Congrats on the success of your channel. You two do a great job of balancing entertaining yet knowledgeable content. Appreciate you!! 🙂

[@NateandElise]

Much appreciated!

[@petecriscenti9896]

Congratulations on the 20K. Keep on doing what you two do.

[@markkyle4605]

You guys rock. Love the videos and like watching all the tournaments. Keep the videos coming.

[@ImmaD0KTAH]

Thank you for explaining what urethane does to the lanes, especially during league. Good luck to you Nate! Congrats you two on 20k!

[@NateandElise]

Appreciate it!

[@jamesrainey1450]

Great overall explanation of what urethane does to an oil pattern and how different styles might be able to combat that issue.

[@NateandElise]

Thank you!

[@genequattlebaum5291]

Congratulations…keep it up!!

[@anothertallgamer]

This was actually incredibly helpful and informative, thank you! Also, good luck in the trials!

[@NateandElise]

Glad it was helpful!

[@jaymiller9418]

Great video guys. Good luck Nate!

[@paulwillett9942]

Congrats on the Milestone and hard work! Best of luck to you in Tour Trials Nate!

[@NateandElise]

Thank you so much!

[@deerslayer138]

congrats on hitting 20K!!! I've learned so much from both of you!

[@NateandElise]

Thanks so much!

[@larrytripp3412]

Great info I just threw my purple hammer in my league bowled 200 with it and I rarely use it just for this reason personally I see it as a challenge when I see other people using urethane most people in our league seem not to care about or don’t say much when they use it be blessed today and every day keep up the great work prayers up for you on the road to success on the tournament journey for the both of you

[@jjuett]

Keep up the good work.

[@markneubeck1768]

Loving the content here lately great job.

[@dell1111111111]

great to see the growth of the channel. time goes by fast... good luck at trials.. gonna be grueling

[@NateandElise]

Appreciate it!

[@RobertoFernandez-dy7hi]

Thanks, N & E! A good explanation on the effects of throwing urethane down the lane on a house shot. As a righty, I only use my (really old) urethane ball for right side spares. Oddly enough, you guys didn't touch up on that in this video. 😅

[@gsricemanmb]

Love the channel been watching for awhile now. This video makes me rethink buying a urethane ball since I haven't bowled in league for almost 20 years. Will be joining a league either this season or the next. Thanks for all the information.

[@gregorywitt4978]

GREAT video explaining why not to throw urethane on a house shot, as well as how to combat it! Thx!

[@NateandElise]

Try to show both sides :)

[@nevinkinzel]

Good luck at trials, Nate! Stay focused on the bowling, not the scores! Congrats on 20k and great video!

[@NateandElise]

Appreciate it!

[@joeanderson9267]

Let's go Nate! Hope to see you in Va

[@petestuffins8454]

Never needed a urethane here anyway. Bosh. Congrats on the subscribers

[@davidbeamon6726]

Amazing video I have never owned a urethane myself

[@johnneathery6714]

absolutely enjoy your videos. literally bowled in league and the other team all had urethane. believe it or not my proton physix was the only thing that was working for me

[@NateandElise]

Awesome adjustment !

[@bobbymathis1925]

Good explanation of urethanes effect on a house shot.

[@kellenlee6152]

Congrats on the 20K milestone!!

[@NateandElise]

Thank you so much 😀

[@michaelwalters2958]

Great video, I watched LR's video on carry down from bowling balls and was completely blown by his opinions. I know you guys understand the affects of different types of balls going down lane in league because everything you describe happens in our leagues. I roll The IQ tour most of the 3. games with simple adjustments but when plastic or urethane is used I end up left with phase 2 which works well for myself. Thanks for all your efforts.

[@dukeofearlgolfer]

Was a great explanation of the breakdown using a urethane ball. I really enjoy watching you both compliment each other and you both are awesome bowlers. Good luck on your bowling on the tours and keep your videos coming for us amateurs to learn more 😂❤😅

[@NateandElise]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@MarilynWhite-sc4zv]

We have a few that throw urethane and this really helped me understand the affect it has on my game 😊

[@Atochabsh]

we see exactly this transition on our house shot. Which for me, is OK, I can then move right (right hander) from my beginning location of 35 aiming 12 out to 10. If I can move a bit to the right I am definitely more comfortable. This is a very good video of what happens with urethane. Only issue is that you can't control what other people (even your teammates) throw. Only thing you can do is be aware of the changes that are going to happen.

[@patbrown3150]

Congrats on reaching 20k Nate and Elise!!!

[@NateandElise]

🎉

[@jayare7750]

I’m calling it, this next tournament is yours!

[@NateandElise]

💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼

[@TruckingTalk13]

geat insight. I see so many people throwing urethane in league, although I tend not to mind too much. I think it just forces people to have to actually bowl and adjust and not just throw a ball in the same spot all night long.

[@frankmeyer6556]

Great video

[@deanw0654]

Cool video guys! I throw Not Urethane Blue on a "modified" house shot sometimes but not traditional urethane.

[@TheRealFraen]

good luck with the tour trials! have fun with with it. you definitely belong there so own those lanes 😂 congrats on 20k!

[@chrislopez505]

Love the videos, wish i would have found this sooner 🤣 i Hava a iq 78u on the way. Oh well, thanks for the great content

[@711slimshawny]

Lots of people are misinformed on the urethane, thanks for showing way it does. I have been that guy but just to mess with someone. lol

[@christopherakaninja3878]

Good luck this weekend at Bowlero Chesapeake. And great video with a lot of in depth information and analysis.

[@joelmesa7785]

My league teammate uses urethane, but I just learned to bowl differently, and I manly play reactive resin... keep making videos, I learned a lot from you two😊

[@NateandElise]

Great to hear!

[@davidlongstreet213]

Big Congratulations on 20k, I see numerous people throwing urethane on a house shot when there is no real need. I think because folks don't understand the dynamics of ball surfaces, cover stocks, cores and how they should be used on different conditions.

[@tylerturnbow218]

Great stuff as usual! I don't personally mind when people throw urethane because I feel I can adjust accordingly or change my equipment to help me play the game that I like to play. Which is why I'm a person who brings multiple bags to League 90 plus percent of the time I won't have to use more than one or two of those balls in League settings, but I bring it just in case someone does use urethane or destroys the lanes somehow. Best of luck Nate! Stay in your zone and out of your head and you'll do wonderful!

[@NateandElise]

Thank you !

[@chriscurtis1831]

Congrats on 20K!!! I don't mind urethane to much. I just ball up and try and keep my angles more front to back. And stay to the right of there breakpoint.

[@NateandElise]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@DAXGutierrez-n5q]

I not opposed to someone throwing urethane in league. I just try to play a little inside of their line when I can. I definitely learned a little more on how to combat it. Thanks

[@alexheales6343]

Great content, thank you. I have a couple of people in our league that bowl plastics and this makes the carry down worse than urethane!!! 😢

[@NateandElise]

Oh yeah!!! But at least the plastic doesn’t eat up the front of the pattern as well!

[@Swazti]

Great video, luckily i dont see a lot of urethane in my little 8 lane center. But its good to see how to combat it if i did.

[@lewiswhite8251]

As a new league bowler this video helped me understand the effects of urethane on the lanes.

[@RealFlankenBerry]

It's not really correct though. Urethane doesn't inherently cause carry down. Low flaring balls do. Luke Rosdahl does a much better job of explaining this topic.

[@NateandElise]

I haven’t seen Luke’s video… from what it looks like he just talks about it and opinions about it. However, this video is a visual demonstration of the actual facts of what urethane can do to a lane. Urethane does in fact change the lane differently than a low flaring reactive 😃

[@glenkamida71]

Love your videos, especially this one! A really visual on urethane carry down. Good skills , Nate at PBA trials.

[@NateandElise]

Glad you like them!

[@gregwright4594]

Nate: u can do big things on the tour, just control your emotions & please stay in your lane 😆 U have the X & spare gm for success no doubt! Wishing u the best & congrats on 20k!

[@NateandElise]

That's the plan!

[@Ramonsellsri]

Awesome video! & explanation, I was looking into the hammer black pearl urethane for my upcoming fall league to help with the dry lanes before watching this video lol

[@NateandElise]

There are better ways to combat dry lanes for better carry overall with a reactive ball. You can do a weaker layout or cover to help... or add polish!

[@sammygonzalezjr.9858]

Nice video and Educational

[@NateandElise]

Thanks for watching!

[@captmorgan110]

Great explanation. Keep the videos coming

[@NateandElise]

CONGRATS YOU ARE OUR 20,000 SUB WINNER! YOU CAN CHOOSE ANY STORM, ROTO GRIP, OR 900 GLOBAL BOWLING BALL!! Drop us an email at [e-mail] with a screen shot of you subscribed to the channel and a like on the video. After that, give us an address, ball and weight and you’ll have it soon! Thanks for your support!

[@ivanlim3605]

congratulations on 20k subscribers! 🎉🎉

[@NateandElise]

Thank you!!

[@illmatic215]

Good luck on tour trials. That is exciting. My boy bowled against you all at a jamz this summer, saw how strong your team was and told us we need to start using more fast moving balls. I went out and drilled three new pieces. With urathane.... i could care less what other people bowl ill adjust in league. I used thane last year to jack up the line of our opponents a few position rounds. Hahaha. But you have to know your team if they can adjust. 98% of the time i dont need it bowling two handed

[@johnwillock6787]

20K subs, congrats.

[@jerrylockwood2624]

Thank you great info I'll remember that on league nite

[@rigovillegas8613]

Let's good!!! Keep posting the sauce!

[@NateandElise]

More to come!

[@mayaboylan5414]

Well i'm 2 handed And I guess no one knows how bad. New jersey house shot hooks crazy for me urethane Is able to keep me from not hooking most of the lane And I do have the advantage Because I am able to strike more with urethane And I do have a high rev 17 to 18 my speed My a game is playing straighter I have drilled bowling balls.Many different ways for me No resin balls It has worked If I make the ball go longer It is snaps more If I sand the bowl ball forces me too far in I just think I love when I see people get mad I'm there to win

[@jmax1219]

Congrats

[@TFTIsBaCk]

I throw urethane down the right usually and my scratch doubles partner throws it down the left and I personally enjoy it when there is more carry down as a rev dominant bowler. It allows me to usually stay closer to the same spot in comparison to reactive.

[@paulstark2032]

Interesting. In the mid 80's, before your time, I bowled on later leagues and the lanes were dry. Hammer and Columbia u dot were the most used balls at that time. Urethane seemed to suck up the oil. The pearl hammer then came out, etc. If I bowled on a freshly oiled lanes, the oil was pushed down but then dried up. I wish I could have bowled on oil that was pushed down and remained on the lane because I could have adjusted to that so much easier than dry lanes. Again interesting. Maybe things have changed. Enjoy your videos. Keep them coming. Good luck every time you bowl!!

[@whatisthecrime]

Congrats on 20k!!!

[@NateandElise]

Thank you!!

[@SirJoelsuf1]

A lot of this really depends on what kind of bowler is throwing the thane, what THEIR target is, and how much or little flare they got. If 1-2 bowlers out of 8 are tossing it up the gutter the difference will be negligible. But if you got a whole team playing the frozen rope with it (or even worse, polyester/plastic), now you'll have tons of hold on the back. Which might be good if the house you're bowling at has tons of friction on the back cuz now things will be a little more controllable. Whole bunch of factors. No bowler worth their salt should panic or get pissy if ONE bowler takes out a thane ball and pitches it up the channel. Anyone who does is wasting their energy. I DO agree that NO ONE should be takin out a thane ball when the lanes are dry. A beginner ball will do just fine in those circumstances. I'm a 2hander and I rarely ever need to take out my Mix. Most of the time when it's super dry I can get in my Twist (the most "beginner" you can get when it comes to bowling balls) and do just fine.

[@davidpruim1046]

Congrats on 20K!!!!

[@NateandElise]

Thank you!!

[@knhoriuchi]

Great explanation on urethane. 🙏

[@NateandElise]

Glad it was helpful!

[@gregwright4594]

I rarely throw thane, BUT, I did win $900 with my Fever Pitch in league on dry gms 3&4 only via 267, 247. Generally, I use it on sport to control the 1/3 & at the Petersen Classic (that's coming up & Liz Johnson, Kevin McCune, etc, r in our squad again. Liz & Brad Snell r on the pr next to me on our burn 😎

[@danielwelsh4503]

Good luck in tour trials!

[@jakeswake576]

Good stuff

[@brandonkushida4702]

I would love for a teammate to throw urethane for a full set lol. Rev Dom and even over hook with Supra Rally. Good luck Nate!! You got this! Can’t wait to see you on tour!!

[@NateandElise]

Thank you!

[@sbarker300]

I use what I need to use at the time. I dont pay to bowl to help other bowlers so I can just appease them (mostly league and non-team tournament situations). BUT I also find it funny how a lot of bowlers today NEVER complained about people still using urethane back in the 90's when the X-Calibur and other first edition reactive bowling balls came out. DIdn't hear a peep of someone saying "OMG! Why doesn't Joe buy one of these new bowling balls, his old LT48 is F-ing up my shot!!!" Now that it has come to the complete opposite, everyone thinks the world is ending when someone pulls out a urethane.

[@WillChua]

I don’t mind at all. I have one. They use it , I’ll use mine. Let’s battle!!!

[@NateandElise]

Heck yeahhh join them if you have to!

[@glenkamida71]

Looking forward to seeing you on Sunday on a PBA, National Tour stepladder final Nate!

[@antoinelamar8234]

Congrats on 20k

[@NateandElise]

Thank you!!

[@tejanojay]

Thank you for sharing, it's a very informative video.

[@NateandElise]

Glad it was helpful!

[@michaeldietzen8613]

Congratulations on 20K

[@NateandElise]

Thank you!!

[@geneasai3709]

I bowl in Kona. Unfortunately with the lane conditions here, the oil dissipates rather quickly possibly due to the warm high humidity tropical weather so we’re dealing with lane transition by the second game or sooner in league. I use urethane because it seems to be more controllable under these conditions. The other option that occasionally works is to use weaker entry level type reactive balls. High performance balls are great for the 7 pin but difficult to adjust to the pocket. Thanks for your videos.

[@NateandElise]

That’s great! Like we said, nothing is definite in our videos! We just wanted to show people what happens to a lane when urethane is thrown and how to combat that if you are struggling. Thanks for your support !

[@jamesfralick00]

@@NateandElisewanted to show people no your title says don’t use urethane on house. Funny thing is at my center of 60 lanes and 80 lanes, I get my ass kicked every other day by urethane players. So your title is very misleading if what you just said was your actual goal.

[@cory1705]

I play well off of urethane, I actually love to see urethane on the rack. I have (6) 300 and (1) 800. And (4) of the 300s and only 800, were against urethane on the House. I will usually just pick up a stronger ball. And move left and try to stay out of their track.

[@NateandElise]

Yes, for some people it definitely helps! I know I’ve bowled well when I have some urethane on a house shot that I need hold

[@ripvanrevs]

Exactly! That carry down is going to give more hold if your THS has stripped lanes on the back. My go to on THS is a plastic C300 white dot. It carries a little oil down but not as much since it is mostly in a drier part of the lane. I have a couple videos up of using plastic on house.

[@jimward3043]

Hey I just wanted to wish you Nate best of luck out there when you bowling the tour trials I hope you do real well and get your card also I just want to say that I enjoy watching you and your wife there with your videos I try to watch him whenever I get a chance on KZbin I learn a lot from them and when it comes with the ball motion and everything especially when it comes to playing the lanes so anyway you and you better have keep up the great work and like I said I hope you do well in the PBA trials

[@NateandElise]

I appreciate that!

[@billcain7821]

For me personally I don't care if someone uses urethane or not because I know how to adjust and which ball to turn to as the lane transitions and breaks down due to the effects the urethane ball is having on the oil pattern. As far as a lot of my teammates and opponents in the leagues I bowl in that use strictly a house shot they hate it and want to throw those urethane balls out into the parking lots. Always love your videos would love just once to win one of these give aways but I just don't have that kind of luck LOL. Y'all have a good, safe n blessed day and upcoming weekend. Oh, by the way I'm a high-speed low rev. left-handed bowler. I have in my bag the TNT, TNT Infused, just picked up the X-Cell and finally for my 7 pin spares I tend to leave I have the WD Patriot all are 15 lbs.

[@NateandElise]

Thanks for being a constant supporter to the channel! Keep liking and commenting and maybe one day…your name will get the call :)

[@Baby-ti3df]

I need one 12lbs ❤ congrats 🎉

[@miguelfelix9504]

Im going to share this with my teammate haha😂

[@NateandElise]

Don't tell them who sent you HAHAHHAHAHHA ;)

[@GrumpaBaggins]

Now I'm wondering if I've been on lanes after someone used urethane 🤔 I've had some pretty squirrelly reactions from polished balls that didn't make any sense. Wow! Awesome achievement, Nate! I wish you every success in the upcoming tournament. Keep us posted!

[@ripvanrevs]

When I practice, I only bowl on one lane. I bowl a couple games with plastic, a couple with urethane and then start throwing reactive. I could imagine somebody using both lanes after me and wondering why there is an 8 board difference!!

[@Mityob67]

Thanks for breaking down the correct time for urethane.

[@NateandElise]

Glad it was helpful!

[@elir9990]

Idea for follow up vid…Surface and bowling balls on house shot, keep in mind some people also bowl 2nd shift leagues. Congratulations on 20k.

[@NateandElise]

100%. Like we said, nothing is definite!

[@FunkeeDrummmer]

Absolutely hate it when someone throws urethane on a house shot! Especially in a tournament. So hard to adjust and carry... Congrats on 20k! Enjoying the vids

[@MichaelSmith-yw4up]

You don't hate when people throw urethane. You hate when you bowl bad. Luckily, all the people throwing urethane on a house shot will give you more than enough plausible deniability.

[@remoevans7847]

Get inside or outside of their line and most importantly, don’t whine/bowl better.

[@NateandElise]

Thank you !