Elise, Thank you I am an old man and have been Bowling for 54 years and never new how to do that.. I would always through and hope.. Nate you are a very Lucky man to have such a wife that does things you both can do for a life time...
@darrenthedude17 ай бұрын
Elise, the comment you made about "trust your alignment" is SUPER valid for me! So many times I was lined up perfect, and then "helped" the ball, only to have it miss, me cursing myself for not trusting, and shooting confidently. Another important thing I've learned from another more skilled player, is to stop, SLOW down, VISUALIZE your line, position your body to throw the ball on the MARK that intercepts that line, and ONLY then, shoot your ball!
@rexjohnson108123 күн бұрын
I shoot the 10 pin now from the middle of the lane so I don't have to covor so much of the lane. Everything you do with feet and hips I do. I used to shoot them though exactly how you showed have improved alot though from shooting them from the middle of the lane. It is just more comfortable for me
@kenhill64086 ай бұрын
I loved the explanation, and it is similar to what I do. I know where I stand and target. I pivot around that point depending on what pins need to be included. I have a similar spot for the other side. These spots are only for my spares. My friends talked me into going to practice with them. The first three threw their ball like it was a regular game. I said I thought we were here to practice. I picked up my ball and took out the 7, and the second ball took out the 10. I told them they needed to work on their spares. Their opponent gets ahead of them every time they miss one. Three years later, I heard one of them telling others how I practiced when I practiced. He told them the only ball I took out of my bag to practice that day was my spare ball. Hopefully, this video helps a lot of people.
@theresaj14677 ай бұрын
The hardest part for me in picking up the 10 pin is getting the correct alignment. I'm getting better, but still too inconsistent to feel comfortable in picking it up. I've always kept my hips open, but until now I've never really paid attention to how much they're open. Im going to test out different placements of my right foot against my left to add into my spare shooting system. Thanks for the tips!
@gordonm1254 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for describing your spare system. I've adopted it with great success! I am twice your age and have recently renewed my love for bowling after serious back surgery. My rev rate and ball speed closely match yours so I am a student of your videos. Could you PLEASE put forth a slow-motion video of your RELEASE? I and others would be so very grateful. Thanks!
@themachine88422 ай бұрын
After i watched this, a few weeks ago i went to my group coaching lesson and he told me to aim for 7s and 10s and i hit them all. Now i am a way better spare shooter thanks to Elise.
@jenniferboone-sz1lo7 ай бұрын
wow I l learned this but I've been lining up w my right foot instead of the left. Now it makes sense why I had to adjust 5 boards. I feel so dumb. Thanks for this....I'll practice today.
@daviddeiss79077 ай бұрын
This is a huge helpful lesson video. Fall League is over and I'm going to spend a lot of time focusing on improving my spare shooting this summer, thanks for the video elise
@bobbybearbowling7 ай бұрын
This is a great video. Elise is good at breaking things down to make it easy to understand. When able to start practicing again, I will try this method.
@Inquire7037 ай бұрын
Thank you so much, coming from a woman with hips. Your tips are so helpful, it will definitely improve my spare game!
@jesslong753 ай бұрын
I only have one ball, just changed to fingertip from conventional. I was throwing my spares with it 12lb Storm tropical surge. and doing pretty good cause its a pretty straight ball. Struggling with fingertip. and now wondering if I will be able to be as acurate with it for straighter angles for the ten , i was getting pretty good a tthose from the left part of the lane straight into the 10.
@kendalberry90585 күн бұрын
I like that you showed the trailer playing in the regal theater
@CharlieD9546 ай бұрын
I just bought plastic ball for spares, now I need to follow your guidelines. Thanks for the tips.
@CliftonDon747 ай бұрын
Nice video Elise. I have been shooting straight at my spares for a few years now and everything you say is valid. I will be directing folks to this video when they ask about making spares. 👍
@tc46807 ай бұрын
Love this video. I'm missing too many makeable spares by being mentally caught on whether to hook it the left side rather than using my spare ball. Thanks so much for helping my simplify my thought process. Got instant results practicing today on both sides! ❤🔥
@jenbishop92387 ай бұрын
PERFECTLY timed! Just got my first spare ball, and been struggling with targeting since I've been hooking at my spares. Thank you!
@NateandElise7 ай бұрын
Glad it helped!
@billylusk35157 ай бұрын
I hadnt picked up a 10 pin in months and months, lost a few games because of it. Watched this video today, also got my new venom shock in. Went to practice and was 3 for 3 shooting the stupid 10 pin! Turned my body like you said. Thanks for the video.
@NateandElise7 ай бұрын
Awh!!! I’m so happy that you were able to figure it out!!!!
@ginadipalermo51095 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. I have been looking for someone to show me how to stand and where to throw. This is a great starting point and I am confident that I will be able to use this system. I can’t thank you enough for this information. 🎉
@stevekeller364323 күн бұрын
Elise, thanks for another valuable tip, tho I struggled a bit with this video. You lost me early when you said “stand on the dot right or left of the middle arrow”- what lol ? Replayed a few times & noted the different scenarios except for that first one. Anxious to try it out. Thanks again !
@RickyGonzalez-i6xАй бұрын
Hi thank you for your feedback, I will surely try it and let you know how I'm doing. Have a question I have the Columbia 300 super cuda and the Roto Grip Excel. My sister wants to get me the ion max. Would this be a good addition to what I have. Our house pattern is oily in middle but dry outside.
@NateandEliseАй бұрын
It all depends on how you throw it. The ion max is meant to dig in heavy oil and give the bowler a smooth but strong reaction
@kevincastic8055 ай бұрын
Thank you! I'm new to league bowling and have been struggling with the 6 and 10 pin on my spares. I will try this tonight
@NateandElise5 ай бұрын
Good luck! It will make a huge difference!
@jaymiller94187 ай бұрын
Great tips once again! Would have liked to have seen where your feet ended up at the foul line vs where you were lining up.
@paktype7 ай бұрын
Wow, you really break it down really well. I never knew how involved this is.
@badknees827 ай бұрын
Great video ms. lady....for corner pins.i use my strike ball...
@TheAnbaricuda6 ай бұрын
Omg this helped me in just Two visits to bowl I can see improvement. Thank you so much.
@NateandElise6 ай бұрын
I'm so glad! Yayyyyy
@smokey69657 ай бұрын
broken down very well, thank you for this
@SirJoelsuf17 ай бұрын
Love the info here but I think before any of it can be utilized, bowlers gotta change their mentality/attitude towards leaving spares. It is SO easy to get mad at spares when you leave em and that will affect how most shoot em. Would see this SO much in college: Even though I was mostly on the JV team because I only struck a third of the time, my single pin spare rate was in the mid to high 90 percentile while those who struck more than a third of the time could barely hit 90% on single pin spares. My multiple pin spare rate was even more ridiculous: It was close to 75%, and that INCLUDED washouts and splits. Highest across both teams by nearly 10%. The one underneath me was at 62.5%. Wasn't even a good bowler back then, average hovered around 205 or so, was super duper speed dominant. Like 175 RPMs but threw the ball close to 18 MPH...I was that a$$hole who would get my most aggressive ball, take it down to like 360, and hurl it out to the 10 board from the 15 board...lofting it to the markers haha. Everyone hated it. Even me, but it was all I knew at the time. WAY too one-dimensional to be part of ANY college team. Everyone I bowled with was like "what is your secret? You strike like four times a game at most but only run MAYBE two opens a game." My response was "well spares are free sticks if they're not splits. And if it's a single pin you have literally half the lane to cover it (unless it's a corner then you have a third of the lane). Those are like the 'free throws' of bowling: There's no defense, don't need to worry if your throw was on time, it's just ball to pin just like in basketball it's ball in basket." You could have the best and most optimized technique for spare shooting but if you're getting mad because you left a ringing 10 that should have carried, left a blower 7 that should have carried, or went light and left a 2 pin, went high and left a 4 pin, that mentality will get you to whiff it. It's even worse if you got mad at a spare you left on a bad shot and you thought it was a GOOD shot, cuz now you're mad for the wrong reason lol. I've run into so many bowlers in league who will leave 2s and 4s and complain that those should have carried. Um, no. If you leave a 2 pins and 4 pins you should consider yourself lucky there aren't other pins WITH it. Gotta treat single pins (and most 8 count multiple pins like 6-10, 4-7, etc) like how basketball players treat free throws in that they are pretty much guaranteed to improve scores.
@dinozuzic17657 ай бұрын
Excellent video Elise, thanks very much. I do have a question. For the 10 pin, you stand on 30. Do you slide on 30 and look at 20? Thanks again, love watching you and Nate.
@NateandElise7 ай бұрын
Yes and yes.
@roberttsikretsis50146 ай бұрын
A saying I was taught was.Trust is a must or your games a bust. Trust your alignment.👍👍👍
@2fast4ulsr7 ай бұрын
I wish I had KZbin as a kid. I could never bowl correctly. These videos are great
@davidseeburger84484 ай бұрын
Very good training video. Thank you.
@joker3dx7 ай бұрын
Best video in a long time!
@slncr-uf8qx7 ай бұрын
The funny thing about shooting cross lane, picking up single pins are harder to pick up at first, but at the same time, splits feel so much easier to pick up compared to before.
@NateandElise7 ай бұрын
Yes, using this system makes picking up splits way easier!!!!!
@Thekingpin017 ай бұрын
Should be the goal... doing perfect spares on every game sets are all ok all the way. Strikes will come on a calm manner.👌
@Sloanjr5076 ай бұрын
this was extremely helpful. thank you!
@NateandElise6 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@derankweert7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tips Elise, Great Video. I can try this also. Love from Holland
@cherylsmith74017 ай бұрын
Thank u! I need to practice this I will keep reviewing to get a complete understanding and take to lanes and practice😊
@TraumaRider7 ай бұрын
Really great breakdown. I'm going to have to practice this next time around
@NateandElise7 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@danielvickery7 ай бұрын
Unfortunately the angles change depending on where you start from. I bowl from the up dots and not the back dots. This changes the board placements and the bowling angles. From my position each angle is steeper. THUS I don't use the center arrow and must use the 17 board more which causes difficulties by sliding out of the oil and more into the dry on the 10 pin side,,, which is my harder side to pick up spares on [my straight shooting side].
@dalewilliams64407 ай бұрын
Thanks for your tips
@NateandElise7 ай бұрын
You're welcome 😊
@bruceherbertiii52677 ай бұрын
Love your content! Question? What is your go to Pearl ball on house shots vs Solid ball?
@BrianGsell7 ай бұрын
Great instruction! You really do a great job. Thanks for taking the time to share!
@NateandElise7 ай бұрын
You are so welcome!
@joehoenig75967 ай бұрын
Great vid, Elise and thank you, not just for explaining your spare shooting system, but also for explaining the rationale behind it! A few questions, please: 1. I struggle using 20 as my spare target area, because it looks as if it's in the middle of my chest. I know this is an optical illusion, but do you have any suggestions or thoughts about this? 2. Could you please explain more about the relation between foot position and the position of the hips and shoulders, when shooting spares? When we shoot strikes, we typically align our entire body toward our intended strike target, or at least toward our intended strike path: feet/hips/shoulders. Yet when we shoot spares going straight with plastic, it seems that other than moving our non-slide foot back or forward a bit, as you demonstrated in your vid, spare shooting angles seem to be determined more with hips and shoulders, not the feet, so there is a disconnect, between the feet and the hips/shoulders. What is the down side, if any, to aligning feet/hips/shoulders when shooting spares, just as we do when attempting strikes? 3. Do you have any tips or drills to help bowlers roll their plastic ball spare shots straighter? At the amateur level, simply switching to a plastic spare ball, even with a spare system, isn't going to work if we still rotate our hand around that plastic ball at release. If we release our spare ball the same way we release our strike ball, the slightest dry spot on the lane will cause even that plastic ball to hook and miss the spare. How can we get better at switching back and forth between strike and spare releases? Thank you, and wishing you success on the upcoming 2024 PWBA season!
@kallel658822 күн бұрын
Nice dumper on this one!
@alfredsaril18657 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tips. Works for me.
@NateandElise7 ай бұрын
Good to hear!
@brianholdridge18607 ай бұрын
Thank you. I can’t wait to try this out.
@NateandElise7 ай бұрын
Awesome! Practice practice practice! You will get it down!
@nnapsRАй бұрын
this was amazing sure wish i would have known this when i could bowl
@lexie79187 ай бұрын
Excellent video! Very well explained!
@NateandElise7 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@lynnmcmahan22277 ай бұрын
Love watching your videos has shown me a lot
@brucebrotman7 ай бұрын
piece of cake then I'll forget what I had just learned during League play!
@RahmesRolls7 ай бұрын
I line up with my left foot still when shooting at the 7, but I still position my right foot up as if to trap the ball. It was pretty vindicating to see your right foot is very close to where mine is/would be. My left foot goes to 18.
@adamfield41197 ай бұрын
I love all your videos u are absolutely incredible u bring good information and u are absolutely awesome at bowling I love it and u
@NateandElise7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much 😀
@adamfield41197 ай бұрын
@@NateandElise u are welcome have a good weekend I love u guys 💜💖🤗
@randycartwright71807 ай бұрын
Great explanation video gives me a lot to work on
@NateandElise7 ай бұрын
Awesome! Put it to good use!
@dougpt103 ай бұрын
Why is your starting point 2 dots over from 20 for the 10 pin and only 1 dot over for the 7 pin? Wouldn't you want to create the same angle? ty?
@551Newf5 ай бұрын
That is basically what I do, but I have never created an actual "method". I think I tend to go too far to the extremes for the 7 or 10. So, corner to corner. (I'm a beginner hack rolling a hook). Having a method to practice will certainly help with my consistency. I have one ball that I'm presently using as I just came back to bowling after ~40 years and it is a Rhino reactive pearl, 14# ball. I need to get a spare ball and was wondering what you recommend, and do you drill it the same as your hook ball? I was thinking 13# for spares but not sure and have no idea what to look at. My hook is coming along, but my release I can see that my fingers are about an inch above the equator of the ball and that I need to work on getting my hand more underneath. Anyhow, I love how you teach, and appreciate your video! I'll follow you and hope to learn more from you.Thanks!
@osfcross7 ай бұрын
Need to try this next practice.
@NateandElise7 ай бұрын
Yes, it will change your whole game!
@lonestarpatriot8763 ай бұрын
I think the biggest thing is having a system. I have seen all kinds of different systems from bowlers at every level. Do what works for you, practice it, and stick to it. I think a lot of bowlers miss spares because they have no system and do not have structured practice sessions where they work on spare shooting.
@del15507 ай бұрын
Great video Elise!!!
@NateandElise7 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!!
@bigmadbad7 ай бұрын
I came for the thumbnail, stayed for 5:45 😂🎉
@GrCent7 ай бұрын
She's a full-on snack. 😋
@RickyGonzalez-i6xАй бұрын
Elise I am 68 years old and started back bowling with my son, It's my first time back after 20+ years and my son's first-time bowling. I'm having problems with my release and spares. I used to average a 200+ average but fracture my wrist and had to go down to a 15 pound. I was a very good spare shooter but now my whole game is bad. How can I rectify my release and how can I get more revs on ball. Because of my wrist I've had to wear a brace so any hint would help. I've watched a lot of videos, but I found your channel more informative. Please help as I know I can do it. I'm very competitive. Thank you.
@NateandEliseАй бұрын
You could go down in weight and that’ll allow you to gain rev rate and speed. You could do foul line drills to strengthen the wrist. I hope you keep going !
@silverwingshg7 ай бұрын
It sounds to me that you are saying to position your body (hips & shoulders) toward your pin, walk toward your target and I assume cross over step with your target being the middle arrow and your starting position in alignment with your target and middle arrow. Is that correct?
@remington14397 ай бұрын
I just caught this video a few weeks late. High Avg I have but say 75% spare shooter.😂 When I practice for spares as you are shooting I use a plastic ball. I also carry a urethane ball’ I drilled the ball pin between fingers and a 6” pin. I use that and I pick up every spare, when I use the plastic I usually miss. So what should I do, I have a feeling what you’re going to say. Plastic ?
@singram19787 ай бұрын
Great video!! Thank you
@GrumpaBaggins6 ай бұрын
As a newer bowler who has been using whatever ball is in my hand at the time (Rhino, Infinity, Perfect Mindset, Theorem, Slingshot) to hit spares, are there certain spare balls that are better than others? I know it's mostly the responsibility of the player to aim correctly, but I was curious if there is a clear winner out of the various brands?
@rickyponzie70837 ай бұрын
What foot did you lead off with and which one was your first step
@marksears558Ай бұрын
So if your target is 20, do you walk towards 20 or stay on the line you start on and keep your body towards 20?
@osfcross7 ай бұрын
When shooting crosslane, do you still do a crossover step? I couldnt see your approach
@NateandElise7 ай бұрын
Yes… nothing changes with your physical game 😃
@jeffjensen45777 ай бұрын
I know straighter is greater for spares and I switched to shooting straight at all spares this past league season which has helped a bit. Still looking for the right system for me and I think I'll give this a shot, it makes sense to me. However, I was also told that "you shouldn't shoot straight at all spares" like the 2-8 for example or 3-9, or a bucket. My question to you is, do you shoot straight at those? Or do you hook? And is it all personal preference? I see pros shoot straight at 2-8, 3-9, buckets, with a spare ball and I see others hook at them.
@4G64SicKShoT7 ай бұрын
I use the 369 spare system and flatten out for 10pins
@johnwillock67877 ай бұрын
Not to be rude, but you need to drop this video right in Nate’s lap. Missing single pins has been a real nemesis for him. Might of cost him a win on the weekend😢
@NateandElise7 ай бұрын
New spare ball time lol problem solved
@severoferova59287 ай бұрын
Boring
@SHADOWMAN_246 ай бұрын
I think this video has great tips but i think it would be way more helpful if we had the camera looking at the lane with a line pointing at where her intended target is from where she is standing before she throws the shot.
@sharynguercio443313 күн бұрын
What if you do not have a spare ball, do you still use the same alignment?
@NateandElise13 күн бұрын
Yes. Just make sure you flatten your hand out
@sharynguercio44336 күн бұрын
@ thank you
@MarilynWhite-sc4zv7 ай бұрын
If you're using a spare ball, why does it hook at the last second?
@pcolesjr7 ай бұрын
What is this method or style called.
@vickieworthington82633 ай бұрын
What is a wash out?
@johnnyrock8527 ай бұрын
So, when shoting spares like 3-4-6-7-10 do you feel shooting straight at it is better than hooking at it? I seem to have better luck hooking at it, but on a sport shot tghat can be challenging. Also, 2-10. What would you recommend for converting? No leaving it is way better, but happens....lol
@NateandElise7 ай бұрын
Depends on what you’re bowling on. On something that’s not completely flat, Nate may hook at it but for me, I have found success hooking my spare ball a little bit that the spare but the spare ball is still going fairly straight.
@operationdirtFN207 ай бұрын
Great video!
@NateandElise7 ай бұрын
Thanks! 😊
@EdisonZ067 ай бұрын
Great info, easy to understand!
@christopherjonathynbrooks7 ай бұрын
@@NateandElisehey nate and Elise
@javigarcia46295 ай бұрын
For 7 pin yo start on 15, but you have to finish 15?
@JoeBrrFanАй бұрын
How do I remove balls I no longer own from app please?
@jimsalabim920329 күн бұрын
I won't say why I clicked on this video 😅
@TraumaRider7 ай бұрын
I still struggle at the 10pin every so often
@NateandElise7 ай бұрын
You can fix it!!
@joshwest45437 ай бұрын
Poor nate never wins an arguement... because he can never remember his point.
@dominickabbriano-ns6nf7 ай бұрын
How do you make a 10 pin spare
@NateandElise7 ай бұрын
It’s all in the video.
@skategeezer18107 ай бұрын
The rg spare ball is 81 hardness urethane..
@NateandElise7 ай бұрын
The black one yes. Not this one. It’s clear plastic.
@jerseymoore41026 ай бұрын
I think when you’re showing people how to shoot a spare need to see more of your body of what you’re doing so that we can actually accomplish what we want with trying to pick up my spares
@williamhaynes24144 ай бұрын
moving from 6-10 to 3-6 made zero sense...oth with left foot on the 30?
@williamhaynes24144 ай бұрын
your looking at 20 but rolling 15 or 18??? none of that makes any sense.
@Jeffery_USBP3 ай бұрын
She said "full Rack"
@PROFF42026 күн бұрын
How come more pros can't flatten her hand out greatest thing I ever learned was how to flatten my hand out and I could take my most hooking ball and throw it dead straight.
@christopherjonathynbrooks7 ай бұрын
Hey nate and Elise
@renetaylor11867 ай бұрын
right😂
@havenrab7 ай бұрын
I literally heard nothing
@colbyepps24347 ай бұрын
Then you literally were not listening. Slow the audio speed down smh 😂
@havenrab7 ай бұрын
@@colbyepps2434 I was distracted by the other green bowling ball behind her
@PROFF42020 күн бұрын
You're gorgeous
@kaosaechao567 ай бұрын
I hate the 10
@raycft7 ай бұрын
Bend ova girl show me what you working wit 😮
@michaelmaston47027 ай бұрын
My fucking ears are bleeding.
@waynemoore32367 ай бұрын
You talk way to much, just bowl the damn ball
@NateandElise7 ай бұрын
Wayne… that is not the point of this video.
@robertlosasso42227 ай бұрын
Who are you kidding? Even the best bowlers miss spares . How are you at making the 7-10 ? I don’t think you could make one out of ten .