Do presidential debates matter?

[@john6291]

Doc Brown said the same thing in 1955.. “No wonder your president has to be an actor. He's gotta look good on television.”

[@nicoletaylor2880]

Sometimes I question this also

[@Cpm5481]

I like when Lou does the show. He is informative and fun to listen to.

[@rz1974]

He's the only one who does this show, videos that he isn't in are different shows

[@Cpm5481]

@@rz1974 Actually, if you look into the video section of Beme there are other videos from other people. Lou does the Beme News It's Lou. You can be fooled when you see Beme popup saying there is a new video and Lou isn't there, it's someone else reporting (in the field not at the desk).

[@rz1974]

@@Cpm5481 yes but while they are on the same channel they are different shows

[@fraidarahbaran6076]

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[@Lumencraft-]

Lucky for us Lou looks great in HD :)

[@zachzulanas4125]

This was a really good video but I wish Lou highlighted the Nixon v Kennedy debate more. The issue of debates on TV versus over radio have long influenced voter decisions. Many people who listened to the debate on radio were more likely to vote for Nixon, whereas on TV they were more likely to vote for Kennedy, as they thought Nixon only APPEARED weak, versus young and handsome Kennedy. That debate spurred more female voters than any other election cycle as well. It's a very interesting topic that delves deep into culture and human psychology, I wish it was talked about more

[@Kevin-ps5wq]

After every Beme video I start to feel more and more hopeful for a more friendly and intellectual world. Your video's are well made, nuanced, not to long and easy to understand for everyone. They make people see news from multiple angles and new perspectives. Beme is the dawn of a new unbiased and nuanced age of information and I can't wait until this way of presenting the news gets mainstream. Thank you Beme! And please don't let big corpo CNN influence or destroy you ;)

[@TheBloodyloon]

Unbiased is he wrong term. Nuanced definitely, but I feel like Beme is wearing its bias on its sleeve and acknowledges the full argument from alternative perspectives. The idealist dream of unbiased news was never real, the best we can hope for is honest bias.

[@Kevin-ps5wq]

@@TheBloodyloon Ow wow, never really thought about it that way. I'd agree with you, well said.

[@TheBloodyloon]

@@Kevin-ps5wq I'm glad you thought so. If you want some more material on this, Google journalistic objectivity. Here is a link from a source I like: www.medialit.org/reading-room/news-beyond-myth-objectivity

[@donhalley5622]

This is the kind of reporting that brings me back to BEME over and over. Thank you.

[@fraidarahbaran6076]

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[@benecke13]

this makes me appreciate German public-law broadcasters like "ARD" and "ZDF" even more, because they are heavily funded and based on the Interstate Treaty on Broadcasting. Even though the public contribution is very high with 17,50€ per month, it always guarantees multiple sources for independent, objective, transparent and free journalism as well as pluralism of opinions and media. All that without being driven by ratings or brand deals with advertisers. I like that :)

[@benecke13]

@@j_ckal How high is the monthly contribution/fee for you? 🤔

[@User24x]

Bernie needs to step up his burn game.

[@TheDetherageDialect]

"appealing-looking politicians benefit disproportionately from television exposure" So what happened last time around?? Lol

[@Jonny-hm3iz]

It wasnt the only factor he mentioned, it got outweighted... I really shouldnt have to tell you this

[@TheDetherageDialect]

@@Jonny-hm3iz 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ You must be fun at parties

[@Jonny-hm3iz]

@@TheDetherageDialect i may have gotten you wrong

[@samkeefer4898]

@@Jonny-hm3iz it was a joke... I really shouldn't have to tell you this (;

[@Jonny-hm3iz]

@@samkeefer4898 wasnt too clear you genius ;)

[@DammitBobby]

Debates are essentially the WWE of intellectual persuits

[@Dudemar0]

The debate format has really hurt Andrew Yang. He has the best policies but has struggled with the soundbites and aggression needed to 'win' a debate. (Having his mic switched off made matters much worse)

[@cardnals100]

While I think yang is great it's hard to say he outright has the "best" policies.

[@Lumencraft-]

@7:11 I had to double check and (search Lou Foglia Destorys Debates) just to make sure.

[@Bliggity]

I like the new angle of the camera. The crushed down depth looks more gritty like it was shot in a small office.

[@adamputz6043]

The funny thing is, debates change almost no ones minds. Most people have their mind decided months before.

[@AnalyticalSentient]

Unless they're evidence-based. So yeah, you may be partially correct. Although you'll observe that some candidates surge a bit or tank, after a given debate

[@elgsquilliam]

Lou! What's the new thing? BRING IT!

[@susiljayasingha2176]

did you just call steven crowder as a aggressive internet pendant??

[@nilssmith-yt]

Fascinating! Looking forward to the upcoming debates.

[@Samborondon11]

Great to hear you talk about evidence based practices! I recommend doing one on the evidence based policy making system that PEW advises!

[@walterramirezt]

Hey Lou Why did you remove the Guatemalan flag from your background?

[@Capta1nFaz]

What happened to Beme?

[@Lumencraft-]

I'd say that was an accurate summary.

[@gnothseed8135]

im glad to see you Lou!

[@jerner17]

I just wish they could fact check right when the candidate answers (showing a video evidence would be even better) and mute the person that is trying to talk over the candidate that isn't answering the question to keep it civil.

[@iheartlreoy8134]

Jeremy Turner it would just be biased to whomever is fact checking. Best just to leave it all out so we can decide on our own we don’t need anything curated to a specific bias

[@jerner17]

IHEartLReoy bias facts? That doesn't make sense to me. Facts are facts. I don't think candidates should be able to lie or give half truths on television without any consequence. Hell just let the opposite party fact check the opposite candidate with their sources if that's a concern

[@iheartlreoy8134]

Jeremy Turner are you afraid you can’t tell what’s true and not true? Why do you need information curated for you aren’t you an adult

[@jerner17]

IHEartLReoy I'm not worried about myself since I'm interested in politics and spend more time researching than most. However many are not interested and get their news from 1 to 2 sources that are echo chambers and are easily manipulated into believing what they want to believe. You'd be surprised how many people in my family are shocked when I say the muleler report did not exonerate trump of all wrong doing like he and Barr said it did. I had to show them a video of mueller himself saying if trump was innocent he would have stated it in the report for them to believe me

[@thenoicemango1827]

Jeremy Turner This is a bad idea because like the other guy pointed out it could get biased

[@DoorBuster21st]

I think you are right about how debates have become harsh arguments rather than thoughtful discussion. but I think people like Ben Shapiro and Steven Crowder may call it debates sometimes but they really mean discussion. I think it may be true that online debate culture is picking up but I think online discussion culture is growing too. Change my mind is a long-form format showing that it is at least trying to give the entire context and nuance. Likewise, Ben Shapiro although he has many videos online "destroying the libs" he also has an hour-long Sunday show where he tries to go in-depth on issues with people that he may disagree with. lastly, you put a tweet of Jordan Peterson on the screen who is probably the most interested in discussion as all his youtube videos are over an hour long an being a psychology professor is very well educated. I think sometimes these people get into debates because it is the only way that can talk with people of opposing viewpoints and it makes for good content but I think in the ideal scenario they are not debating but discussing but a lot of people will not sit and discuss with them.

[@mhkpt]

I think it's possible to have a small number of people talk real substance about a number of issues, but having 10 at a time is just ridiculous.

[@TrevorVaubel]

Well as a native of Mankato, that was one way to pronounce it Lou. Lol :|

[@FlezzDurjis]

aaaaaand that's why a reality TV star is now the president. You got what you wanted america!

[@BoardandArrow]

FlezzDurjis I’m good with it.

[@Whysosadams]

Pretty sure Beme is a great demonstration of the distillation and simplification of ideas. Despite it being so in-depth and intelligent Beme is struggling to grow in the clickbait and fast answers landscape of youtube. 😞

[@LouisFoglia]

Yeah, deep sigh.

[@CallieMasters5000]

HEY LOU - YOU'RE THE THING! 😁

[@fatal510]

I thought BEME was supposed to be dead? Has this just become someones personal channel? What is going on here?

[@benastell7062]

Casey neistat sold it to CNN along with his employees. CNN now continue to make videos via BEME

[@devonh00]

Change My Mind isn’t aggressive. The whole goal is to allow two people with opposing views to sit down in a safe space and explain their opinion on the matter and ‘debate’ the reasoning or evidence used. Hagglers are removed by the power of the crowd respecting the procedure and no one is mocked for their opinions even if they are opposite of Crowders. The only idea’s that are made into comedic sound bites are people who go off on tangents and are unable to control themselves or the fact that they their ‘opinion’ can only be the truth.

[@Bill-zp2mt]

He is far from perfect, it would've been better without the public standing around to calm the inner ego we all have. But I think his goal is noble, a conversation and discussion between peers of which direction our society should go in.

[@tannerwilson4843]

Any chance a video on making Elections shorter could be possible? When it comes down to making election's better. This topic almost never get's brought up, no Presidential Election should be more then about 6 months.

[@iheartlreoy8134]

Tanner Wilson it takes time to travel this huge country and hear what specific concerns the various regions and peoples have

[@tannerwilson4843]

@@iheartlreoy8134 No country on earth even comes close to having nearly 2 year elections on a non stop time table. Canada for example which is just as big or even bigger (depending on who you talk to) only has election timetables for about 3-4 months. Some around the world are even shorter, the UK election time tables only get about 6-8 weeks for official election seasons. It's a joke in the USA.

[@iheartlreoy8134]

Tanner Wilson yeah and the difference is the president is much more important in American politics than the prime minister is in the uk or Canada. The pm is beholden to the party making the institution much more important, the president has a lot more discretion and shortening the election time won’t do anything

[@k999ford]

0:51 Oh shut up. Change my mind is just about the most classy way you could talk about something, and Crowder approaches it with the same mindset as Thomas Aquinas did when he debated, which, I will remind you, was 900 years ago.

[@TylerDietz]

This was a cheap jab that didn't make sense. Change my mind's purpose is to create civil discussion between opposing viewpoints.

[@PepinsSpot]

So... why is the word "nuance" in the media so much in the last year? I swear I've might have heard that word maybe 10 times in my lifetime and now is every time I watch videos.

[@jeromeorji1057]

Maybe you're just now paying attention to it. I've heard it all my life. But in my case, the word "yikes" seems to be everywhere now, but I know the word has been used for a long time.

[@u563rick6]

think the primary debates are more important than presidential elections. It helps bring topics into limelight and spark conversation. The presidential debate has been much less important but this year if it’s Bernie vs a Trump than it could be very important for Bernie.

[@adamputz6043]

Anyone remember the video of Hillary with the fly on her face during the debate, that is the only thing I remember from all of her debates

[@garrettgrant1264]

And that's why we have Trump. The voters can't focus on anything but a fly.

[@Always.Smarter]

well, at least you're honest.

[@zhanweigoh5479]

Can we get #Lou4POTUS so we can hear him on the stage?

[@skatecrew090582]

Yup when ever I got in to politics I could never watch a fill debate it's felt rehearsed and the questions aren't important

[@Walker1o8o]

There are times I'm really disappointed in your coverage of events. Mostly because I feel your coverage disproportionately favors the status quo, AKA your parent company. However, stuff like this where the takeaway message is "the news outlets of the day are at fault and should do better." Is what gives me hope. Keep up the good work!

[@mcgoof171]

Gotta bring home those ratings!

[@RobertGallardo]

YANG GANG

[@Jebusmike3]

“I’m gonna go live my life”

[@gladprokiller7207]

Debates are more important during the primaries.

[@graham1034]

Debates just seem so useless to me. I guess if people won't use any other means to find out about a candidate then it's better than nothing.

[@sownheard]

Instead of showing evidence having policys and solving problems it's more about who sounds better no matter the truth.

[@mjfrancis1626]

This some Fahrenheit 451 shit damn.....

[@S2Tubes]

The solution is Brawndo. It's got what voters crave.

[@presidentialelectionscomme9780]

So Romney was to Obama what Harris was to Biden? That’s reassuring. I had high hopes for Harris but can’t see a bully win. She lacked substance and stole the show by changing the topic.

[@kg9409]

6:15 how typically pretentious- they know what’s in our “best interest”

[@lindseywong9667]

So in a way debates are mostly just entertainment.

[@thatdkguy5256]

Id rather see each candidate have there own 3 hour podcast with Joe Rogan.... Which ever candidate is willing to try DMT has my vote lol

[@maximusdecimusmeridius5500]

Lou is that the room you grew up in? That room is in your mom and dad's house isn't it? Guaranteed!

[@k999ford]

Boy this channel has gone down the tubes. Y'all said you'd be objective in one of the first episodes, and it was alright for a while. Now, every video is almost exclusively targeted at conservatives.

[@zenfer]

He pronounced Mankato, Man-ka-to 😂.

[@LouisFoglia]

Damn. I was worried about that

[@michaelcahill2545]

0:54 lmaooo

[@Hubert_Cumbersnail]

How does this show still get funded w the amount of views it gets. Curious

[@Bill-zp2mt]

Fun fact: You are in a position stand up to CNN, because you are working for CNN in the same building. Why not interview them on their behavior ?

[@Warfareframes]

Lou is left wing that's why, their puppet

[@LouisFoglia]

I criticize the networks and CNN specifically in this piece. If I sought comment from one, I'd have to seek comment from all. That would be untenable for this script, and frankly they'd all be generic and meaningless statements anyway. I speak up when I have opportunities. I'm a little confused by your general sentiment here though. I'd get the criticism if I pulled punches and didnt point out how cnn has contributed to these issues. And as you know from watching these episodes, this isnt an interview show format.

[@iheartlreoy8134]

Louis Foglia to what degree does cnn your parent company contribute in bemes content?

[@LouisFoglia]

I pick topics, do research, conduct interviews, write script, and get notes from my Beme team. We then send scripts to folks at CNN who assist with factchecking. Usually it amounts to something like - you said its 19%, but the study says 20%...you misquoted this paper....you misused this word. Because we label these as "analysis" i have a good amount of leeway.

[@octoberboiy]

Part of the requirement of being a President is the ability to dominate and exercise charisma. The debates are more than facts, they offer us the opportunity to judge the presidential abilities of the candidates.

[@alekseysoldatenkov5675]

It's about dialectic, not debate.

[@dadonutslvl90]

Sub 300 view gang

[@ToMgRoEbE]

Yang gang

[@PhilipKaskela]

No! Don't go live your life. We need more well thought out videos! Please make more

[@FlezzDurjis]

Thank u for referencing debate charlatans Shapiro and Peterson, they are the worst examples of toxic debate culture these days... other than the president, of course.

[@J_T_B]

why does it matter that this video was made in nyc?

[@Bill-zp2mt]

If you want to change our political discourse you need to reign in the social media platforms, and social engineer our attention span to last longer than 10 seconds.

[@Bill-zp2mt]

Ben Shapiro is a reporter who focuses on mocking stupid ideas, both from Trump and the left. You need to stick to unbiased facts BEME, rather than exposing your left leaning bias. Ben Shapiro never seek to destroy anyone, but dispute their views. He has even had private conversations afterward to hash things out on good therms, with people he disagree with. Mocking stupid ideas is important to reign in Trump with his ego-maniac tendencies. If we laugh it's healthy, because it's spur on democracy through engagement.

[@kingofnothinghere4210]

another 1

[@tawongamunyanduri5874]

Doesn't apply to Trump

[@jackbaggie5524]

Not sure that what Ben Shapiro or Steven Crowder do is the same as Presidential Debates. Not even sure they both do the same thing. What is the point of including them in this video? Also adding the “Debate me, bro” is just immature and I am sick of the frat boy straw man

[@dustinallenphoto]

Who else remembers using the beme app?? Now it's this :/

[@happilyconfuseddog8951]

Lots of bias in this video and a pretty unfair characterization of Jordan Peterson. I didn't realize that this channel was bought by CNN but this video pretty much lays the cards out on the table.

[@LouisFoglia]

What about the criticism of CNN in this piece?

[@happilyconfuseddog8951]

My main issue is that Peterson has said numerous times that the most advisable strategy in a debate is to come to a mutually agreeable conclusion for both parties. To use the least amount of force necessary and to regard your "opponent" as someone who has something to teach you. I think this video sums up his thoughts on debates quite well : kzbin.info/www/bejne/rInEgn-KbbtpaZo The tweet by Peterson you used was in rebuttal to a hit piece by Ira Wells which spent a long time trying to attack him, it's not that fair to use that tweet without some context. With that being said, I don't think you're characterization of Crowder and Shapiro are that far off and like you, I get annoyed at the "debate me bro" persona. However, I have seen a few long form discussions with Crowder and Shapiro that have been somewhat civil and fruitful. With regards to your self criticism, it's welcome, but to me it falls somewhat flat after your mischaracterization of Peterson. It seems like a tactic you are using to come off as unbiased but in reality you're just covering your bases so you don't have to take the immediate flack anyone could levy had they realized that CNN profits greatly over the very thing you're criticizing, all while forming the narrative against right wing figures. Ultimately, I still enjoy this channel a lot and I am thankful you took the time to read and reply to my comment.

[@LouisFoglia]

@@happilyconfuseddog8951 i think you're focusing a little too much on a tweet we flashed on the screen. To think that I wrote a 1700 word piece to disguise a subtle dig at Peterson is a little strange. From what I've seen of Peterson, he always comes off as needlessly aggressive. Thats my perspective, which you can disagree with. Thanks for watching and for your thoughtful reply. I'm always a little miffed when people attack my association with CNN - as if my content looks anything like what they usually do. Ive spent the better part of 100 episodes demonstarting how I think and see the world. Can't you trust my intentions by now, if not my conclusions?

[@Fals3Agent]

No.