"DO REAL MEN LIKE IT KINKY?" BLACK MEN AND KINKY HAIR: THE CONVERSATION KINKY CONVERSATIONS S1 EP3

[@MzCrayKray]

That is why it's best to wear your hair natural because you can weed out some of the men like the clown on the left.

[@AnomalyBelleza]

😂😂😂😂

[@Buttergirla]

That woman with them bangs is beautiful!

[@jasminepayne1895]

Yesssss

[@DarkLordofDetroit]

Her cheekbones!!!

[@knowthyself31]

The guy in the jacket is insecure because he isn't physically attractive

[@PurpleGalaxies123]

So are you saying since he knows he isn't really physically attractive, he specifically goes for hoes, city girls, baddies, and women that are better looking than him?

[@Onechance_ngl]

Proud natural women here and I really tried to get through this and most everyone was wonderful and beautiful but the insecure man child in the jacket as the loudest in the room syndrome…hard no for me. Listening with an open heart is really so attractive. He will most likely never be happily married. I will be exploring this channel though. Thanks for the content.

[@TheSocietyStudios]

Thank you for watching and your support!! You are right... listening with an open heart IS attractive. But alot of women end up with the ones that are toxic and make you work hard for the love because of lack of self-love. This episode really was to look into the minds of different type of blk men and how they perceive us when we choose to not live by societal standards of beauty... Needless to say this jeeds a part 2 with another crew of men for another perspective!

[@mac9683]

@@TheSocietyStudios Are you guys coming back with a new season? I would love a part 2

[@anjukacey6658]

This was a good conversation! I'm kind of surprised that men think natural hair is automatically some type of political statement. I'm a woman that wears both natural and weave it really just depends on my mood and what I feel like my hair needs. Again so interesting that men look so deep in the hair.

[@TheSocietyStudios]

That is a great point. I think that many people especially ones that have not been natural have a certain viewpoint of natural women without having a true understanding. Its unfortunate but definitely true. I think that believe that women who are not trying to conform to societal standards of beauty, and that are going against the grain can be seen as too powerful and a threat... Its sad because all we want is to wear our God given hair. Right!?!? That shows just how much healing is needed within the community. Thats for your awesome comment. BTW I still love a great weave and wig! XOXO

[@Buttergirla]

I have been wearing my hair natural long and short and medium length every since 2007 and the whole time I've only had two or three black men approach me since then

[@TheOfficialprincessa]

It’s very weird… most times black women just understand the heat damage is terrible and that there’s a correlation between the chemicals in perms and fibroids.

[@ertfgghhhh]

Bw that wear their natural hair is definitely a political action. It shouldn't be but it is Who a black man MARRIES is political

[@atlmprof1]

Horrible episode! This is a woman conceived space directed at women and they let men come in and dominate the space with "locker room talk." The letterman jacket is fat and out of shape but is loudly judging women's bodies. GTFO!

[@TheSocietyStudios]

Unfortunately, this is what many men think... not all but many especially in this very surface day and age. We had to give him an opportunity to speak and boy did he... Thanks for your comment!

[@greywitchwanderer9608]

What I find odd is the guy in the Letterman jacket saying he would never post a print picture or post he makes millions of dollars, however he commented several times that he made millions and had this lucrative job. It seemed a bit insecure to me. Another is his commentary about mixed women with long hair as if only mixed women have long hair or curly/wavy hair as he sits in a room with black women who have various hair textures. Any guy who calls themselves an alpha male is typically insecure. He sounds like a repeat Kevin Samuels. He has the energy of self importance and thinking his words are the most valid yet seemed to be reading into everyone else's commentary and getting offended. It seems like the traits he dislikes in women are the very ones he has himself. Overthinking is the biggest one. He overanalyzes everything. He has a lot of self hatred. I'm glad he is loud about it so women know to stay away.

[@TheSocietyStudios]

Thanks for your insight. Great comment! Women actually love this man! It is unfortunate that many women get caught up in the surface things especially with what a man makes or physically brings to the table. Only once we heal this in our community will we grow...

[@mjjohnson4564]

Black men love natural hair that looks less kinky coily and quote on quote nappy in its natural state. They want natural but a certain texture natural

[@TheSocietyStudios]

True indeed. But just as he said in this episode. If that is what the man is looking for then he is not "your people"...

[@Magarita810]

The guy in the jacket that was taking over the conversation, said a lot about what he did not like. He is forgetting women also have opinions on what they don't like and a man who takes over the conversation is very unattractive..

[@kxxly.j]

Fr he was so annoying to listen too with all the blah blah

[@Theewaxwiz]

He’s overweight so now if we talk about how we prefer fit over fat men ….

[@keniasloan523]

​@Theewaxwiz overweight and non-attractive. He should just be quiet

[@Kaymaxwelldevelops]

This was an interesting conversation!! Guy in the letterman jacket has more of a “rich mans “ perspective. Men with money don’t care for depth in their mate because he’d much rather “not deal with all of that” Love this show!!

[@TheSocietyStudios]

Hi Kayla! I definitely agree with the rich mans perspective. Because they don't feel as though they have to deal with certain things they move differently. But its sad that natural women are seen a certain way even though they are just women. Smh. Thanks for your feedback! Please make sure to subscribe!♡♡♡

[@atlmprof1]

That guy talks far too much. He's so worried about judging women and their body hair, he fails to realize that he needs to be fitted for a bra. Yuck! He apparently has no time to take care of his body. Whatever man.

[@lesleyannroberts4301]

@@atlmprof1 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@knowthyself31]

The fact that women are entertaining this conversation about being objectified is stunning

[@TheSocietyStudios]

Well, to be honest in this type of dialogue you must be open to hearing other people's perspective... even those that you don't agree with.

[@glcoola2349]

I was astonished that the women allowed the men to drag the level of the conversation to subterranean depth.

[@Q.T-T]

​@@TheSocietyStudiosI mean we already know their opinion, don't get why we keep showing them that we care so much about their opinions..

[@TheSocietyStudios]

​@@glcoola2349😂😂😂

[@TheSocietyStudios]

​@Q.T-T not that we all care but some people really need to know. Unfortunately there are alot of women wondering why they arent deemed attractive in this type of man's eyes. Sad but its true. I hope this opens up more of us to just love ourselves outsode of getting men's approval...

[@mikemike7264]

What black men aren’t asking women to straighten their hair or wear weave? Natural hair women are assumed to be purer. Natural women are assumed to be more feminine, humble and more qualified to be a wife.

[@Phoenixspin]

Overthinking this. Natural is beautiful and should be the norm. Period.

[@TheSocietyStudios]

Yes! PERIOD! It starts with black women loving our hair and standing proud in that love.

[@thewordsmith5440]

This idea that natural women shouldn't want anything or don't want anything is also alarming.

[@TheSocietyStudios]

It goes to show what or how some men view natural women which is sad. I think alot of the conversation could open up to what they feel about black women in general... That would be a deeper conversation.

[@joimonae4090]

thats a bit extreme they clearly said that they assume women with natural hair is more conscience not superficial ect they said a lot of positive things why is that the only thing you took from the video ? not to mention it was just 3 men speaking not the entire male population

[@blackparco6240]

If a man is worried about your hair Something is wrong with him he might be fruity

[@TheSocietyStudios]

🤣

[@kimullah6102]

Love the show. The one guy is saying what most men think and I appreciate his honesty.😂

[@cokothenatural3677]

8 minutes in and I’m hooked. Great content🔥 keep it going. The man in the letterman is something else

[@TheSocietyStudios]

Yes ma'am! Sorry I'm just seeing this response from years back! But thanks for watching!🙏🏾❤️🙏🏾

[@TheMsOShow]

I have been wearing weaves and extensions (recently wigs) half my life because of different reasons. Growing up my Mom use to make sure I had a perm cause she didnt want to deal with my hair. I had hair fall out, scalp infections, all types of stuff. Here recently I got tired of all of it and decided I was going to whether wear my natural hair or cut all my hair off. I never got so many compliments from both men and white, all nationalities about how much they love my natural tresses. I also think it took me getting to a point in my self growth journey that I truly wanted to embrace every single part of my being to truly appreciate my beautiful hair. This was very entertaining. I also have a Podcast "The Ms. O Show" and I love doing roundtables like this to get different perspectives. I am not saying I will never wear extensions again but there is just something that changed within me. I walk different, my confidence is different, my feeling of who I am is different. Ladies I say to truly give it a try, the heads that turn from men and women are crazy, they truly do enjoy natural women.

[@DrexinaNelson]

Yes maam! I am 100% with you! Wearing your natural hair truly makes you connect with yourself on a deeper level. It opens doors up to having an understanding of yourself that wearing weaves and wigs does not. Now I love me a good wig every now and then but you could never keep me from reveling in the beauty of my natural coils. There's nothing like it! Thanks for the comment! What is your podcast link? We gotta support you!

[@TheMsOShow]

@@DrexinaNelson I went on my spiritual journey about 5 years ago and although I felt I was healing it was still something missing that I could not figure it out. Regardless of how much work I did I still didnt feel like I truly loved myself. It was not until I embraced my natural hair and started to truly own who I was did I fall in love with myself. It truly is a powerful thing. Thank you so very much - my podcast is on here under @themsoshow

[@laurencameron3150]

What’s your hair type? What’s your hair type? I’m asking because women with kinkier hair textures (like myself) sometimes don’t have good experiences especially given the black community views loose curls as “good” hair.

[@laurencameron3150]

@@DrexinaNelsonWhat’s your hair type? I’m asking because women with kinkier hair textures (like myself) sometimes don’t have good experiences especially given the black community views loose curls as “good” hair.

[@TheMsOShow]

I am a 4b some pieces 4a I would assume. But I dont have loose curls. Without product I have a full blown afro. But when I decided to be natural it was for me and I went into it understanding that it may not be for everyone but it was for me. I walked proudly and really was at a point of my life where I didnt give a damn who approved and who didnt. The power I got from being able to own who I am is priceless. It was a journey for sure because all my life I have been taught to not like my hair and feel that I was not pretty unless I had flowy weave hair, even my mom/family was like "what you going to do with that hair"? It was hurtful at first, but now they see how it has grown, how thick it is and now I get sooo many compliments on my hair like "Your hair is so pretty, I wish I had your hair" and things like that which is still such a shock to me. I did a big chop and was looking hella cray until it grew out some but I just stayed the course. I know what we were taught to think is beautiful but I believe and know that we can define what we believe is beautiful for ourselves. And I also enjoy the fact that I dont look like other people. Like I love the fact that I am unique to myself. I feel the world has gotten so copied that we as black women are starting to look alike with our hair styles, bodies, and stuff like that, I like that I stand out and choose a different path.@@laurencameron3150

[@fashionwithoutlabels]

All these women complaining about the letterman guy in the comments. I watch this video and he is the REALEST. Y’all women must not be used to a man speaking truth. He is not a “yes” man. I appreciate a straight up, no chaser type man.

[@SharahMonroe]

Yea I enjoyed him the most to be honest

[@DrexinaNelson]

This is such a great episode! Very insightful! Its good to know what men really think about our natural hair... Although we dont always like to response its good to at least know what we are dealing with!

[@ilikeitlikethat7305]

The guy with the letter jacket is spot on. He keeping it 💯

[@itsahairthang]

Wow this conversation was very interesting. Its always nice to hear a males perspective on what they find to be attractive. We as females will often say that the physical or the sexual isn't important, but that isn't true. We all have a type that we are attracted to however it is the personality intelligence, and compassion of the individual that will make us stick around unless you are completely superficial. I say this because every surface acting person does has some depth to them even if they don't want to admit or own their depth. I thin this conversation is a teachable moment for the women that find Ray's mind set offensive. I personally like the honesty because he let's me know up front that he is not relationship material for me. He is a guy that needs complete submission and I am not going to give a man that type of submission. Next he is right, what you wear, or how you wear your hair does speak volumes and we should not be upset or offended by this view, because we view men the same way. However the only difference between men and women is women will take another step to see if our first impression is correct or not. Lastly, , on the real does this one person's opinion matter that much to you, because at the end of the day I have to love what I see in the mirror not how a man views me. I truly feel that men respond to confidence and I can not let a man's views shake or take that from me. You are going to half to like the good bad and ugly of me. But guys, thanks for sharing your opinions.

[@letashaphillips5883]

God gave me kinky hair. It's nothing like the real thing.😀❤️❤️⭐⭐⭐👍

[@TheSocietyStudios]

You and me both!! Love thy hair!

[@JRayByDesign]

Dude In the jacket 😩.

[@MzCrayKray]

He equates consciousness with being uptight, boring, and to serious. India Irie also has a song called "I am not my hair." Smh

[@detroitkaraoke]

He said he ain't with all that consciousness.🤦🏾 He is honest about living in his superficial space & using his money to get those women who are as well.

[@MojoeHart]

WEAR THE NATURAL With STYLE ---WE LOVE THAT

[@Buttergirla]

I appreciate that man's honesty

[@TheSocietyStudios]

Yes, it is great that he was so open. We say we want to know what many of the men really think... Well, there ya have it!

[@tinalove8197]

Less attractive guys have a hard time accepting that women are visual and care about looks. Yes women will be with you although u less attractive. But will she really be with u?

[@TheSocietyStudios]

True indeed! I don't know why people forget that women are also visual. They can be picky and we are just supposed to take beer bellies and deal with it...

[@keishahall5443]

All I can say is that I tried and most are just as not attractive on the inside. If I’m not physically attracted to them than I won’t even try.

[@ravenbaxter3503]

I’m only 22 but it’s just funny listening to these grown men who clearly just need to grow up. You’re talking about being intimate with multiple women and it depending on “how you feel”. These men need to get it together…I’m not even referring to their hair opinions. It’s sad

[@kimberlydill8059]

What separates a girl from a boy is the hair length. Black women have some real men to choose from.

[@TheSocietyStudios]

Wow... right!?!?

[@zakiyareignshinellc4299]

The guy in the letterman jacket is a man that you trick on. He wants and needs a city girl.

[@TheSocietyStudios]

Wow. Interesting perspective... 😂😂

[@Brandiisbeloved]

Exactly

[@detroitkaraoke]

He said it himself in so many words

[@Robloxlegend49]

Letterman must be single single he’s on some strange red content stuff

[@TheSocietyStudios]

Letterman is married.

[@aguy9071]

The guy in the letterman was corny. They talking bout natural hair and this man jumps to pubic hair. But he was funny towards the end.

[@TheSocietyStudios]

Thanks for your comment. He is definitely a riot!

[@lorrainecotton5414]

I love your hair ladies.

[@TheSocietyStudios]

Thanks sis!❤️❤️❤️

[@marilynpridgen9517]

I was a very interesting conversation it was so much to unpack there But I really learned some thing I learned that hair long hair is an important part of femininity and that men appreciate long hair and I really attracted to it now that’s some thing I guess I should have known because they’ve been so inundated all of their lies by the media projecting the beauty standard of long hair in order to sell products for hair but I thought especially when they talked about Indi Ire that they would be able to relate to the unique beauty of black women their own women that has unique physical qualities create it for them to enjoy unlike any other woman I didn’t really sense that appreciation there for who we are and it was eye-opening I have long hair I love long hair but I have to say as a dark skin black woman it was a little disappointing but I appreciated the honesty that was good to see. And like you said it’s all about perception but when you don’t like the dick willingness of my hair I don’t feel you can fully appreciate my Ebony skin and you’re not my people also I thought it was very interesting what he felt about women that comment that that reflected their level of intelligence I don’t believe that’s true either I’m very intelligent and I come in all the time you never know who’s in your comments.

[@BritBrat444]

this guy reminds me of dame dash 😂

[@TheSocietyStudios]

Wow. I literally never thought of that lol😂

[@theladiesroompodcast9993]

The guy in the red and white jacket has the thinking of a child. He assumed a woman didn't look like she would have fun because her hair was straight? she wasn't smiling in the picture? And then he said he didn't want a woman that wants him for money but made sure to mention how much money he makes multiple times. RUN FROM HIM.

[@phglam]

Well my mine I didn't care too much what nobody thought when I became natural and wear my curly hair texture and never cared...and then I met my husband with locks and that was my mate. Any other man opinions didn't matter.

[@nomessnostress]

❤

[@AvaLynn85]

Love your honesty guy in the school jacket. Love it..that's what we want honesty. Enjoyed the other guys opinions as well.

[@TheSocietyStudios]

Thank you! Ray was a riot! Glad that he was open and confident to be real about how he felt even though many people got mad at his perspective!

[@jeaninethomas1398]

KRAZY, conversation!!😂

[@TheSocietyStudios]

Definitely crazy. Definitely needed!

[@detroitkaraoke]

😮🤦🏾It's wild.

[@christinemcdonald1943]

His best bet is to look through the book, and then pick the one that fits his mood.

[@TheSocietyStudios]

Wow elaborate...

[@AvaLynn85]

Lol the guy in jacket when they put up Sanaa lathan 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Feeeinc]

You asked him so listen This is why they don’t tell you

[@TheSocietyStudios]

True indeed! We may not love what he has to say but there is some unfortunate truth in it! Thanks for your comment and for watching!

[@SharahMonroe]

I respected the guy with the jacket , what’s everyone else’s problem in the comment section 😂😂

[@rhondadenis3469]

Natural hair keeps the dusties away. 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@TheSocietyStudios]

What are the dusties?? Lol..

[@rhondadenis3469]

@@TheSocietyStudios F*ck boys of all creeds, and self hating black men.

[@nomessnostress]

No it don't 😂

[@samaraw1693]

8:51 not a weave meaning a gold digger lol 😅

[@TheSocietyStudios]

Lol... He had some serious ideals...

[@joimonae4090]

Id rather be natural so you know what you're getting there are plenty of men who prefer natural hair and plenty of men who don't care at all

[@ilikeitlikethat7305]

As a woman I thought all women had similar texture down there. What is her talking about? Shaved vs shaved?

[@Littlewater]

I find media has conditionned men to like Euro-centric features. Though that is changing. Until natural hair becomes the majority, young boys will not subconciously value that look and that will be reflected in the choice of desireable women in commercial media.

[@TheSocietyStudios]

You are absolutely right. As long in our community we keep buying in to what societal norms say are beautiful then it will continue to plague our beautiful black women's self view. It is changing... slowly but surely. I can't wait until we as black women learn to fully embrace and love our uniqueness and then everyone else will fall in line.

[@genovasquez8361]

I prefer a woman with out weave and with out her hair straighten. I don't like weave at all

[@TheSocietyStudios]

Thank you for that! We love a man that loves our naturals! For that we salute you!

[@genovasquez8361]

@@TheSocietyStudios your welcome.... I know personally thousands of brothers who feel the same way but they say politically correct stuff because brothers have been conditioned to let the blk wmn always be right. I use to post on Facebook all the time about us me overwhelming preferring natural women s d it never failed when too many men begin to agree the sisterhood would dragged an put them in they place. They would drag me too but the only difference is I started roasting them and taunting them non stop until they relented..some times a list would go on for 3 to 4 days before it died down or got locked by the admins Most brothas are not vocal, because they didn't want to get dragged they rather keep their thoughts secret. An say what ever makes her feel comfortable I like. . When a man says if it makes her happy I'm happy he lying.. they just don't want to be bash, emasculated or deal with a sassy mouth for speaking their preferences. This I believe is a problem.. because 80% of sistas have no idea what we as men really want in a woman. An when they ask we give a generic run of mill good feelings intrinsic values every human has for someone they like.

[@nomessnostress]

I get a ton of attention because of mine..... rather they want to have a good time or date me seriously

[@genovasquez8361]

@@nomessnostress okay well some men will go for what they can get. It's a turn off to me and many men. one reason I prefer conscious sistas is they typically not looking all dolled up like a RuPaul

[@nomessnostress]

​@@genovasquez8361I meant my natural hair lol.... I don't wear mine straight....

[@aleashamooring3799]

Ok Mr R W jacket! 🔥🔥🔥🔥. I absolutely love your transparency & I’m 100% in agreement with your POV. U a solid dude

[@nomessnostress]

The man that said something about the dashiki is fine asf.... isnt he an actor?

[@TheSocietyStudios]

Thanks everyone for their feedback and support! This is a powerful episode! If you haven't please make sure to subscribe, share, comment, and like the video! We need to get this info out!

[@teresadavis528]

I thought we were talking about black women and natural hair? This conversation is so iff track.

[@kevinffrench2544]

Best and funniest episode hands down 😂😂😂

[@janecaulton457]

Greatest takeaway from the talkers-they like long hair. But I don’t believe that they are representative. I see many men with women whose natural is short. And I have beautiful bald friends.

[@TheSocietyStudios]

It's definitely just a small representation of the vast textures and lengths in our community! Thanks for watching!

[@shantechavis2489]

Wow... interesting commentary!

[@TheSocietyStudios]

Thank you so much for your comment and insight! Yes, to see what some men think about natural women is definitely eye opening!

[@MsNairobi]

When love is the foundation, you can ve anything together...stop being superficial

[@TheSocietyStudios]

@msnairobi True indeed but unfortunately many times, that is not the case. Most relationships these days are based on surface connections. Once we know better hopefully we will do better....

[@beezibrown8212]

they dnt when my hair in my fro I get told do something to that head they just like to say they dnt like weave

[@TheSocietyStudios]

Its all.so confusing right? Its almost like nothing is enough. Its until we own and start fully embracing who we are... is when they will have no choice but to fall in line. We must first learn self love, stand tall and proud in it for others to accept us as who we are. It starts first with us.

[@beezibrown8212]

@@TheSocietyStudios ww wear weave we are the only ones who get judged. They wear fake boobs nose jobs etc but yet we get judged self love has nothing to do with wearing weave

[@AnomalyBelleza]

Hatred of Afro texture and hatred of full black natural hair in full display.

[@cutiepiea3687]

Ofc his first girlfriend is mixed

[@swagg21]

All paid actors

[@TheSocietyStudios]

Not even close lol.