Do Steroids Work Even if You Don't Work Out?

[@OfflineMafia]

this is a great video: short, accurate and educational

[@chadkbrignall22]

Its interesting to note that PED use to improve ones physique is still highly discouraged while giving hormones to kids as young as 12 to "change their gender" is celebrated and in many cases legal. Something def wrong with this picture.

[@zarachosauce]

EXACTLY bro

[@KuruKuruGorilla]

Something is wrong with whole world recently

[@BobardeZanzibar]

Guess someone didn't make it to the end of the video, huh?

[@ononono7016]

Very outspoken transgender kids get puberty blockers. It delays puberty and they can stop them any time to induce puberty. If they are older, they can switch to or add hormones

[@MarkRodriguez-l4m]

Obviously

[@lellysramos64]

Excellent vid. Needed it for an essay I'm working in.

[@donpratt4877]

I knew the 600mg study would be mentioned 😜 it's famous for a reason. But another thing to keep in mind, a lot of steroids were developed for people like burn victims or those suffering from muscle wasting diseases to recover body mass doing little to no exercise at all, the most extreme cases, laying in a hospital bed!

[@eatonkuntz]

I'm curious which steroids are like that. My online references seem to say bodybuilding aka anabolic steroids just help with recovery and performance. Growth hormones might actually build muscle, but they're far more scary to use.

[@donpratt4877]

@@eatonkuntz recovery IS healing

[@cenkzh]

@@eatonkuntz dianabol is the most used and for pure muscle gain developed anabolic steroid. Available as Oral tablets or injections. Oral tablets have somewhat less side effects but do give similar results. Most of steroids are like to cure several diseases but Dianabol was made for the purpose of gym

[@ardie72]

@@cenkzh go away dude. oral has MORE side effects..get offline and stop giving rubbish advice.

[@terrybates-jy9zu]

I had an accident muscle and nerve deterioration looking to chitchat with someone with some knowledge of where do I go to my doctor half-cocked and then get blocked five years ago they told me I'd be in a wheelchair of this year I'm still walking with hardly and my back and everything goes out more really need to gain some knowledge can you point me in the right direction before I go to my doctor

[@jackrockwell6698]

I’m in testosterone TRT levels. I haven’t hit the gym in 6 months and I gained 15 pounds all in my chest and arms. It’s honestly fucking ridiculous.

[@hevnervals]

Watch out for manboobs

[@CTyrone-s9j]

Why u on TRT tho

[@Sergioisdead]

​@@CTyrone-s9jbecause.... probably hypogonadism?

[@gleipnirrr]

​@@CTyrone-s9j because men need it after a certain age

[@franciscojavier3109]

I like the improved production quality of this upload. Keep it up. You deserve more subscribers.

[@robz5435]

Tren is given to cows before bringing them to market to increase lean tissue and reduce fat. I have yet to see a cow in the gym.

[@michaelaugustini7234]

Ahhhhh this is the best point ever made here 😅

[@wat5709]

They still use their muscles a lot just by walking around with all the weight they carry

[@muttswob4239]

This is a terrible comparison to the human body and what a human and a cow goes through each day. A cow constantly grazes every day and walks way more than you think whilst holding thousands of pounds of weight

[@EggBoxingFactoryManager]

@@muttswob4239literally what every other cow does but doesn’t get muscle without the steroids. 😂 the cow doesn’t take the steroids and then all of a sudden start exercising more. 😂 the cow can do nothing different to every other cow and only with the steroids will get bigger and more muscle mass

[@PeterMortensenLit]

Aaaand they give dem estrogen to with the tren... 200 to 300% better tren effect.

[@WarriorMasterTrainer]

Fat free mass does not mean lean muscle mass. It also means increased glycogen, nitrogen, and water within the muscle which the study DID NOT discern between. Not to mention, it was only 10 weeks. There is absolutely no data showing that the fat free mass gain past 10 weeks doesn't plataeu.

[@HehehexDD]

This is simply taking the EXTREMES of NOT WORKING OUT while on roids. Most people on roids will workout lmao...

[@Mauidemigod249]

There is another study that proves that the people in this study gained 100% muscle Mass because increased muscles fibers growth. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12067856/

[@Nathan_lifts25]

Appreciate the valuable information! Merry Christmas 🎄

[@thezod2307]

Ask the rock to get off the juice and see what he looks like after a few months.

[@shaunandeva32]

He’s starting to look like he’s coming off of it now

[@larrybaba5635]

From Rock he'll turn to a pebble

[@steroidsR4losers]

ROIDERS are FAKES! Stay natural buddy!

[@ohmielevisope4237]

He would turn into the pebble.

[@samueldavis5895]

@@ohmielevisope4237the grain of sand 😂

[@big8foe440]

I completely believe him. He doesn't exhibit the signs or symptoms of steroid use 💯💪🏿

[@thezod2307]

Super dedicated, incredibly godlike genetics, hard work....are all nicknames for steroids used by every cute little influencer, especially women.

[@koyle3027]

Does nothing gains more muscle mass then going to the gym…….. “Let that sink in”

[@justvibing2497]

Yup cbum try to say he great genetics and doesn't think steroid plays a extremely huge part

[@WarriorMasterTrainer]

@@justvibing2497 When did he ever say that. And he does have great genetics. You could take what he does and not look anywhere near as good as him

[@carrasco2011sc]

​@@WarriorMasterTrainer😂😂😂 Are you serious? Of course it helps a lot. I have seen it with my own eyes.

[@WarriorMasterTrainer]

@@carrasco2011sc are you unable to read or something

[@hevnervals]

Over twice as much

[@gear16]

Great vid, Just facts. Not filler and bullshit.

[@Anj_bruh]

1:02 wouldn't most of the 600mg aromatize into estrogen?

[@OzymandiasWasRight]

I take a fairly high does for trt. Im injecting 200 mg/wk. I cant imagine doing 3x that.

[@MBdawgzz]

I’m currently on 150mg a week and I don’t notice any change for the better yet, I’ve been on it for around 2 months.

[@KBradAdams]

I would love to see a study done on female twins with one natural working out and dieting for a year and one on PED's and not weight training or dieting, and can guarantee the one on PED's would have abs, be leaner and more muscular.

[@SuperMikeFender]

Thanks, Bill Murray

[@kallah4999]

Tren for life🎉 Tren is healthy kids👌

[@ninjaassassin5801]

How many hrs to workout on Tren i just started it today haven’t worked out only for about like 1hr

[@kallah4999]

@ninjaassassin5801 Trenbolone comes as different esters so depending on your ester there's a half-life of trenbolone base being released into your bloodstream and binding to your androgenic receptors. If you tell me which ester of tren you hitting I can tell you basically how fast of an onset it'll have and how long it will stay in your system. It's just basic chemistry at this point. The complexity comes when you dive into your endocrine system with receptor interaction, and shut down of test production by luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH), which are responsible for stimulating the testes to produce testosterone. These are feedback cycles that get in imbalance when you inject more testosteron than the body really needs. Same with most testosteron analogs too. .

[@ninjaassassin5801]

@@kallah4999 I’m on tren A and test prop

[@Hagrid-s5z]

​@@ninjaassassin5801Youre nothing but a sausage. Who tf goes on the daddy of all daddies and then asks the most beginner question of all time "how much do I workout." Youre gonna D13 bro 🤣👍

[@gleipnirrr]

​@@ninjaassassin5801please dont do steroids, especially based on what randos in comments say

[@Drapo2]

Bro tnx

[@ss-pj8ti]

This information is very important. Thise predatory personal trainers and supplement pushers dont want youbtonknow that a large % or them are not natural. Ive seen many people wonder why they dont habe the results of their trainer. Well duh, the trainer is on gear!

[@willymunroe]

They help you recover they don’t help you train. They don’t give you strength. They just simply help you recover.

[@kirkury]

Bullshit. Steroids also increase motivation and aggression, which are usually channeled into weightlifting by juiceheads. The recovery results in increased muscle mass, which translates into strength. To what degree is contingent on if, and how, one trains. DeNile is much more than a river in Egypt.

[@bobbystillz222]

I don’t get the mess. He said the sanitary people gained 230% more muscle. I said in the video they gained 10% more muscle. Well the placebo gained 3% more muscle so wouldn’t that be 7% more muscle? I could be wrong.

[@rb7500]

Sedentary group on steroids gained 10% muscle mass, lifting + placebo group gained 3% muscle mass. Comparing these two groups, the sedentary one gained 230% more muscle than the placebo group, since 10% vs 3% is a 230% difference

[@LOLFLUSHDRAW]

you dont understand how math works do you? for example 3% gain vs 6% is 100% more. because 6 is double 3.

[@Nickxxx85]

@@LOLFLUSHDRAW I can't xd

[@rickycarfan54]

it things are like this… don’t you think you’ll see super jacke and muscular physique everywhere?? where there’s only few people with great physique?? why most of the gym member took steroids but it didn’t even seems like they work out?

[@turbotax6452]

Some people buy fake steroids...

[@rockpaperscissors6521]

I don't follow your reasoning here. It sounds like you're saying: if (A) steroids help to gain muscle even without training; then (B) we should expect to see tons of "super jacke [sic] and muscular physique [sic] everywhere". But steroids can make couch potatoes look moderately less shitty without necessarily making them look like elite bodybuilders.

[@brianm7402]

Please don't get drunk and comment. It's hard to follow.

[@Mauidemigod249]

Not all people responds equally to steroids.

[@rickycarfan54]

@@Mauidemigod249totally true!!

[@eatonkuntz]

I'm pretty sure the heart risks, early death, etc. are false. Bodybuilders on roids that maintain a clean, drug-free, healthy lifestyle have zero issues and live well past the average life expectancy. Of course, without a controlled study, it's impossible to know if it's the steroids or the lifestyle that make them live longer, but it certainly doesn't cause early death. Even back in the heyday of steroid experimenting from the 50s to 80s, safe usage allowed bodybuilders to live out full healthy lives. Words of the wise: take advice from people who already accomplished what you want. Everyone else is BSing. And don't abuse drugs. You only get one body.

[@eatonkuntz]

@@tnation ok, I searched t-nation for "steroid risks" and so far ive read the top 20-odd articles. I love to hear knowledgeable criticism of steroid use. But science simply doesn't have a case against steroid use. Sure, there are dangerous drugs out there. They can seriously destroy you. But fact-based and honest sources all agree: steroid usage CAN be safe. It's actually appalling how misinformed people are about health. Even doctors have gravely flawed and outdated information, often funded by drug companies. Steroids as a whole class of PED are not inherently dangerous. You can over-do anything. Everything you do comes with some risks. If I said driving a car is mortally dangerous and then I used a couple of anecdotes to scare people so they never drive, anyone would see how disingenuous I am. Driving can be safe. But reputable people, blissfully ignorant, scare people away from safe usage in that same exact way. You have to understand steroids to make them safe. Like anything else. Further, the critical articles that do have some medical facts aren't telling the whole story. Never mentioning research that shows healthier, successful lives decades after starting steroids. They usually just have the same flawed statistics that group together ANYONE using ANY steroid at ANY dose. Of course there will be a few people who take it too far, ruining their bodies and the dataset. Critics usually throw in scary claims about cholesterol, blood pressure, heart enlargement, roid rage, shrunken balls, etc. Again, that's not the whole story. PCT exists, and even without it, levels adjust back to normal. Roid rage is a myth: extreme behavior is always shown to be caused by other drugs or mental health, which any major change can bring to the surface. Hearts adapt to support the body, unless you're just totally abusing steroids to an absurd level and asking for trouble. Blood pressure and cholesterol are absolutely manageable in a proper cycle. And less often mentioned but still false is the myth that once you start using, you're bound to go totally off the rails with it. But if you keep increasing your stack, obsessed with extreme results, that's your issue, not the steroids. People die from too many vitamin gummies, nobody blames it on the vitamins! Nobody outlaws sports drinks, electrolytes can absolutely be lethal. We need to stop acting like roids are both a wonder drug and a deathtrap. Let's have realistic, informed expectations, especially when influencing people.

[@bobbystillz222]

I don’t disagree that affects or exaggerated. But your statement has absolutely no proof. Is absolute diarrhea from your mouth. You’ve done no studies and no testing. Yes somebody builders live longer. There are so many factors involved. This is such a diarrhea statement in your case. Certain people probably also have worse effects to different drugs. Just like side effects to any other drugs that you take. You just made an asinine common having nothing to do with anything.

[@eatonkuntz]

@SUPPS2GO don't abuse drugs. I hurt my liver. Obviously being 100% natural in every way is the safest _on average_ but all choices in life come with risks. Understand and minimize risks while maximizing your life and goals. Ironically, bodybuilding with steroids has saved many lives. The same community that outlawed steroids, legalized fentanyl. Choose your sources carefully based on results and integrity. You only get one life.

[@steroidsR4losers]

ROIDERS are FAKES! Stay natural buddy!

[@UsyksmashedFurytwice]

Why the hell are roid heads always bald, always bright red and always look way older than their years? Whether you like it or not, roids prematurely age you.

[@VoiceOfTruth8617]

Im natural im 6'2 175 and dont mind being lean...some guys feel they have a advantage because they are more mass muscle...lol my heart health is more valuable..

[@basicstuffs6060]

Man bulk up for a period man 175 at 6'2 is petite

[@Lytohs555]

6.2 175 is really skinny im 6.2 and 185 and I am skinny

[@VoiceOfTruth8617]

@@Lytohs555 i originally weighed 135 tho so do the math and it's absolutely nothing wrong with being skinny

[@carrasco2011sc]

You must be very skinny, I am 5,5" a little muscular and I weight 170 lbs. In the military I was 135 but I was fit and lean. I can't pictured a 6,2" with the same weight as me.

[@VoiceOfTruth8617]

@@carrasco2011sc no I was very skinny as 6'2 140 ...I beefed up to 175

[@0311Trucker]

I go to the gym and the people on steroids barley do anything yet they are huge. I work way harder than them and I got muscle but I dont look jacked.

[@shinobi-no-bueno]

What makes you say steroid users barely do anything?

[@rasheedjeffries5754]

@@shinobi-no-buenohe said the ones at his gym that he “ sees” dont lift a lot but are jacked- hes sees what work outs they do.

[@jime269]

Sure buddy

[@jayelee37]

This is good to hear after pulling my back half way through a cycle 🙃

[@ELRenigeyoGarciaMonteCarlo]

I Hate Steriods

[@iosifd2409]

Testosterone on its own its not harmfull , if kept in range of 100mg/200mg a week . Where a cocktail of drugs , like Tamoxifen , Anavar , Anstrazole , and combined oils like Tren Test in high quantities could be an issue for the health .

[@What-he5pr]

Can still cause infertility.

[@iosifd2409]

@What-he5pr This is why , you use HCG , or Enclomiphene to maintain testicles functioning .

[@justvibing2497]

Whats funny is gear easier try so hard to say its genetics/hard work. This is used extremely used in bodybuidling. Chris bumstead and his coach haney try to say their althetes and chris bumstead has great genetics. Insane bullshit and steroids help an insane amount. Genetics play a very very small part, most in fact 99.9 percent genetics are not above average. Bodybuilding is a joke and gear users are delusional because they have a huge boost from it

[@GreenPsychooo]

Genetics plays a huge part of how you will look when youre using PEDs.

[@Mauidemigod249]

​@@GreenPsychooonot genetics. How you respond to PEDs plays a huge part. This has nothing to do with genetic, which in this case is a overused term and It doesnt mean nothing

[@TheMediatorOfChaos]

It’s insane to me that this shit is illegal.

[@mcclain13180]

I agree 100% it should be legal the way we do things in this country is so backwards

[@Fyz-qz3bv]

Partly agree, but legalising this they’d also need to legalise heroin, both extremely harmful

[@justvibing2497]

You guys are slow, it can kill. It kills the body slowly

[@ayugoslav5554]

Oy vey

[@steroidsR4losers]

ROIDERS are FAKES! Stay natural buddy!

[@Perc80mg]

Just watch me become zyzz

[@Lauren_Calithe]

ayo why is the syringe on their butts tho.

[@nowknow]

I looked up the study and it doesn't say the sedentary group gained 10% more "muscle" it says "fat-free mass"!!! That is any mass that isn't fat e.g. muscle, bones, poop, etc. This makes a lot of sense since testosterone will change where water gets stored and put it in your muscles to make more available ATP. It doesn't just give you more muscle! This was completely misinterpreted. Most steroids were created to reduce muscle wasting, aka the preservation of muscle, not gains. You won't gain much without exercise.

[@LawrenceAugust_]

Look at the supplementary material which looked at muscle size… Table 4. (Muscle Size, Before / After): Triceps area (mm2) Training + Testosterone: 3483 -> 3984 Training + Placebo: 4052 -> 4109 Sedentary + Testosterone: 3579 -> 4003 Quadriceps area (mm2)- Training + Testosterone: 8550 -> 9724 Training + Placebo: 9920 -> 10,454 Sedentary + Testosterone: 9067 -> 9674

[@LawrenceAugust_]

“Muscle size was measured by MRI of the arms and legs at the humeral or femoral mid-diaphyseal level, the junction of the upper third and middle third of the bone, and the junction of the middle third and lower third. The cross-sectional areas of the arms and legs, the subcutaneous tissue, the muscle compartment, and the quadriceps and triceps muscles were computed, and the areas at the three levels were averaged." They used MRI to determine muscle mass. A look at what MRI can do: “MRI (Magnetic Resonance Imaging) is a powerful medical imaging technique that can distinguish between different types of tissues in the body, including muscle and water. It does this by exploiting the different magnetic properties of various tissues. In an MRI scan, protons (hydrogen nuclei) in the body's tissues are exposed to a strong magnetic field and radio waves. These protons then emit signals that are detected by the MRI machine. The signals are processed to create detailed images of the internal structures of the body. Muscle tissue and water have distinct characteristics in terms of their water content and density of hydrogen atoms. These differences can be detected and displayed on MRI images. Here's how MRI distinguishes between muscle and water: T1-weighted images: T1-weighted MRI images are commonly used to visualize anatomical structures. In T1-weighted images, muscle tissue appears as intermediate gray, while water (such as cerebrospinal fluid or edema) appears dark. T2-weighted images: T2-weighted MRI images are sensitive to the water content of tissues. In T2-weighted images, muscle tissue appears bright, and water appears dark. This is useful for detecting conditions like edema or fluid-filled cysts. Fat suppression techniques: MRI can also be used with specific techniques to suppress the signal from fat tissue. This can help in better visualizing muscle and differentiating it from surrounding fat or water-containing tissues. Contrast agents: Sometimes, MRI contrast agents are used to enhance the visualization of certain tissues. For example, gadolinium-based contrast agents can be used to highlight blood vessels, enhancing the contrast between blood and muscle tissue. In summary, MRI is highly effective at distinguishing between muscle and water in the body based on their different magnetic properties and water content.”

[@LawrenceAugust_]

“Before and after the treatment period, fat-free mass was determined by underwater weighing, muscle size was measured by magnetic resonance imaging, and the strength of the arms and legs was assessed by bench-press and squatting exercises, respectively.” “Among the men in the NO-EXERCISE groups, those given testosterone had greater increases than those given placebo in MUSCLE SIZE in their arms and legs and greater increases in STRENGTH in the bench-press and squatting exercises”

[@rickybobby7276]

Eat your heart out juice heads. Anyone could do it and look better than a natural.

[@UdayaRai-mo4ur]

Udaya🙋🙋👍👍🫀🫀

[@coltenfergeson4269]

This isn’t true. I see people in the gym that don’t like like they’re ever lifted weights and they’re on a lot of gear. The gear isn’t fake either cause there’s only one main guy in town that sells to a lot of the bodybuilding/ physique competitors… so try it out yourself and you’ll see this isn’t true

[@coltenfergeson4269]

@@boliosbread yea same. Wish everyone knew that…

[@SLAYER-nm5zw]

​@@coltenfergeson4269you look insane dude, I wish I could look like you. I'm on fourth day of test and tbol but yet I don't see any difference or feel anything😅

[@coltenfergeson4269]

@@SLAYER-nm5zwThank you I appreciate it! It takes awhile for it to kick in. I’d say maybe around the 6th week you’ll notice a difference. I’m bout to hop back on some stuff April. Been out of the gym binge eating watching Netflix lol. Let me know how it’s going in the future!

[@coltenfergeson4269]

@@SLAYER-nm5zw I’ll definitely take time. Around week 6-8 you’ll notice

[@asmraishandaim5883]

@@coltenfergeson4269 hey mate I did my sustanon cycle in 2022 gained 3 kg muscle in 6 weeks but I had to stop it because of my exams ' after I stopped I lost all gains , even I made natural I lost that too ' I am skinny back again 56kg ,5,8

[@welza001]

All of these were extremely small sample size... Also, I looked up these studies and they are very limited in the scope and some are extremely outdated. I am not saying you are wrong but this feels a very bias and cherry picked video.... Edit: I just read the larger and first study you referenced. They specifically state in the findings "The percentage of body fat did not change significantly in any group." You also don't address the fact that they specifically picked experienced lifters and that they heavily monitored their diets and put them on strict diets. Also, This was a study based on androgenic steroids. It just doesn't seem like you read the actual study with any real deepth.

[@Mauidemigod249]

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12067856/ muscles gain. Stop spreading misinformation and inform yourself before talking

[@brandonLiveItUp82]

Yeah ok 😂😂 What study was this? Yall full of crap. I know fat guys on 250mg of test a week, and some on even other stuff. Nothing about them changes

[@beastmode63]

False

[@henrikbalder]

No.

[@lambrettaladUK]

you're wrong

[@justvibing2497]

You can't be that slow

[@DirtiestdanP-ml7tv]

I had an old friend that did steroids without working out. He did get s little thicker but he also aged a solid 15 years. He was always a baby face and one cycle aged him to where his face is barely recognizable. He posted some pics and the change in such a short time was insane! He also experienced rapid weight loss and has now had to start wearing glasses. He's also very worried about his dick not working