Do the Mets Actually Want Pete Alonso?

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[@GeorgeCartagenaTube]

Pete became a Met hero (2019) prior to Cohen purchasing team (post 2020 season). David Stearns just finished his first year and isn't going to put his reputation on the line with a risky contract built on the past. This will be a pure business deal with no sentimental bonus. Boras gambles with the middle because he's totally banking with the studs. No skin off his back, but Pete got screwed not taking the bird in hand because there nothing now in the bush. MetsD Up, you guys are nailing it. Take a 3 year with an option after 1. As long has he has value, he will get 20-30 past the 3 year window and still make bank.

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[@nik1800]

When some delusional dude turns down $30 mil a year, easy to move on. C Walker got 20 mil, Teoscar 22 mil, He is not 30% better than these players.

[@dashx1103]

He’s been the most prolific HR hitter since hitting MLB other than Judge. Pete built up some credentials. Let’s not lose sight of that.

[@eyesontheinsides]

Move on to who? They dragged their feet as every other option came off the board, and now you're in a spot where basically every other option is worse or will result in a larger outlay of money and years for Bregman.

[@artm0011]

Shohei got 700 mil. Soto got 750 and he's not better than Shohei. Players will get what teams are willing to spend and i see alot of desperate teams still.

[@nightwalker1636]

Pete is a one dimensional player, whose numbers already started to plummet. He ain’t going to protect no one in this lineup, because he will be chasing every outside slider thrown to him. On top of that, he’s a very egocentric person that thinks he should be making more than the other first baseman out there. Time to move on.

[@theschracken1235]

His batting average is going down his homeruns are going down he is on pace to hit 25 Homer's with .220 batting average with 200 strikeouts he is chasing a lot his strike to big now

[@jenny1070]

Honorable mention for the hair James !

[@ronkonkoma4223]

Santander .235 44hr 102rbi struck out 129 times, Alonso .240 34hr 88rbi struck out struck out 172 times. Both are 30 years old, one is a switch hitter. I can make the argument that Santander is an upgrade.

[@Dan-tt8sn]

No. This was Santander’s best year by far and by far the worst year for Pete. While most recent performance is part of predicting future performance, it is not the only factor used in the equation.

[@donnypotter8606]

I cant see a legit reason not to go in on4yrs for alonso, if at most 5yr . Longer yrs less per or move on at 4pm and go hard at breg .....nuff talk lets go

[@eyesontheinsides]

Why'd you leave out OBP? I can't have a DH who makes outs 70% of his PAs.

[@eyesontheinsides]

​@@donnypotter8606exactly. If they weren't willing to stretch for 4 or 5 years with Pete they should have jumped on one of the many other options, which are now ALL off the board.

[@FlypSyde1111]

Mets SS Lindor RF Soto 3B Vientos 1B Polar Bear 2B Alex Breg DH Santander C Alvarez CF Taylor LF Nimmo

[@santosavila9312]

Stop saying they need another bat, they need another two Bats to be taken seriously to compete for a WS bc that's what it's all about. Look at the rotation of the dodgers, look at the Phillies rotation. You need sticks, our offense Can be hot or go straight comatose and that ain't going to cut it

[@dashx1103]

Bringing back Pete and the addition of Soto equates to “sticks.” That and Winker to pair with Marte in a platoon solidifies the offense. Then it’s about the bullpen. Imo.

[@ramonissa]

Agree plus a SP AND A GOOD LEFTY IN THE BP !!!

[@dashx1103]

I'd take a flier on Montgomery, if it mostly only costs money. He is a real bounce-back candidate. I could see that working out.

[@felixnunez1]

Alonso didn't have the greatest free agent year but it was not the worst either. His last 2 years tho have been lackluster from an average and OBP standpoint. Had he batted .250/ .330/ .500, he would have been signed for the 200 mil from some team.

[@jroze33]

For me, personally, that home run in the wild card that sent it to the DS in the 9th inning SHOULDVE handed him a blank check

[@eduardomoreau8624]

100% with you!!! What more can Pete do? Without protection & expected to carry the LOAD all the TIME and you What ? The Polar Bear when it was his time to do his Part. HE DID !!! NOW when he can get protection with the Dominican Bomber (JUAN SOTO) in front, everyone is getting on Board to Put Pete's back against the BRICK wall! That ain't fair ! ! That's Money Bullying! Not nice to kill your Family! ...and that's not being Emotional ! ! That's doing the Right Thing ! ! The Polar Bear got to the Finish Line but the ones controlling that Line is not Letting him cross it! Shame, shame, shame on you! FantasticoMets69... Met fan for over 5 decades + & counting ! Want to see the Mets get their 3rd Championship with my 3 Kids before I pass on! PETE ALONSO IS OUR TICKET THERE! LETS GO METS! STOP THE NONSENSE AND PLAY BALL ! !

[@eletonjohns8361]

They got to be Crazy to let this Guy go. He made the METS a real Major League contending team again. Nothing but a Class Guy too!

[@Matty-Ice384]

Let’s get the polar bear back Lgm

[@thomasramirez718]

Easier said the done.

[@dashx1103]

Doesn’t have to be easy. Get it done.

[@eemoreau]

Wao! A real Mets Fan !!! Thank you!! Go Pete! You have some love ! 💕 We feel your pain! Hang in there! 😰 You did a good job !!! FantasticoMets69 for over 5 decades & counting!

[@scatdad]

Hey i was hangingwith you at the playoffs

[@butterthyme2241]

I think the Met's are just playing this the way they played Nimmo. The Mets have players on their team that are worth more to the Mets than they are worth to any other team. Pete, as time is proving is worth significantly more to the Mets especially after 1) being incredibly inconsistent for the last year and a half 2) having a QA attached to him and 3) not really being elite at anything aside from beating the piss out of the ball when he makes contact. Pete played the Conforto game and like Conforto he didn't preform at the level he had to preform to get the money that he believes he's worth. 120/4 I bet is where it's going to be around. Pete isn't going to want to miss Spring training games.

[@dashx1103]

@@butterthyme2241 Conforto, unfortunately, suffered a shoulder injury. That cost him millions of dollars.

[@TwoFingerSaloute]

Brent Rooker is making 3.5 Million/year. Mets need to trade for him asap. Sure he’s only had 2 good years and he’s 30 years old, but he’s dirt cheap AND would probably sign an extension at a good deal. I also see Alonso signing with the Phillies or Braves out of spite if he doesn’t come back to the Mets.

[@ketorising81]

Mets don’t want to spend up on years for Pete because, no matter what, this is Pete’s last year as a 1B for us. That’s a lot of money for a righty DH, and next year we’re going after a) Vladdy, b) Naylor, or c) handing it to Clifford.

[@eemoreau]

Not the ANSWER or Solution! Pete Alonso is the BEST proven candidate, home grown & Mets Fans love 💕 him!!!! PUNTO !!! People are depreciate him!!! 226 homers & was productive in the postseason! First time since 2015 Mets visit the POSTSEASON!!! We only live once ! Can get to the Playoffs more than once! What more do you want? Be for Real!!! FantasticoMets69…Mets fan for over 5 decades & only 2 Visit to a Mets Championship! ! That’s cool 😎 or the way to run a baseball ⚾️ Team ! Pete is part of key with the addition of JUAN SOTO ( The Dominican Bomber) 😢😅 Give Pete a deserved & decent deal ! Only one Polar Bear 🐻‍❄️ with the Mets!!!

[@DaveOriginallyfromBrooklyn]

That is absurd. There’s no reason that Pete can’t be the first patient for the next 3 to 4 years easy why would you not make him the first baseman at 30 years old in Dec?

[@AWaywardWriter]

The Mets aren't dropping Alonso to DH after one year. He's the best scooper in the majors and has a ton of range; he's an above average fielder where it matters. They're also not guaranteed to win Vlad in free agency, nor will they be spending 500+ on himn a season after dropping 800m on Soto.

[@krovl81545]

If this was Pete 3 years ago, I’d say yes, sign him for whatever he wants. Last 2 years he was not the player that deserves even 3 years 90 million contract. Let him go to San Francisco.

[@dashx1103]

That’s part of the problem, though. Three years ago, Pete wasn’t eligible for free agency. He toiled for the Mets while being barred from the so-called “free market.” Now that he finally can enter free agency, fans want to discard him. After he hit 53 HRs as a rookie, establishing himself as the best HR hitter in the NL, did he get a contact comenserate with his performance? Heck no. He made less than $1 mil the following season. Now, he finally hits free agency, and fans want to kick him to the curb. I hate the pay structure of baseball. It penalizes good players who excel early and it largely rewards the billionaire owners. Pay Pete. Give him the 4th year and the extra $30 mil. It’s good both ways. And it’s the right thing to do.

[@krovl81545]

Unfortunately, for Pete’s case, players get awarded with new contracts by “what have you done for me lately?”. Look at his numbers. They’re worse than the players signed for 3 years $60 million. And that’s beside the fact that his power diminishes every year + he is limited (1st base and DH) righty with average defense.

[@dashx1103]

@@krovl81545 What players who signed for 3 years at $60 mil put up better numbers than Pete?

[@dashx1103]

@@krovl81545 Who is getting signed at 3/$60 mil that is better than Pete?

[@christodd2273]

You are absolutely out of your mind if you think with this pitching staff as a whole and this offence (without pete) is a play off team! No chance even with pete the lack of pitching is going to kill us!

[@gwong1544]

What always amazes me is if a player is known to be deficient in defense or a weak hitter don’t t you think they would try to be better , that usually means they can make more money right ! … any thoughts on this ?

[@tonycompitello7215]

I think everyone's thoughts are focused on next year when it comes to Pete. It's quite possible the thinking is more long term (we have Soto for 15 years) It just makes more sense to have Vlad here. Trade this year and look to sign him or wait for free agency. If Uncle Steve wants him he will get him. Stearns has talked about how at sometime you need to find out about your young guys. It just might be that way for first, second and third base this year.

[@alweinhofer5453]

They overpaid for Soto. Now they are worried about money ?

[@MizzAnthrope]

Yes, they overpaid for Soto. But Soto is 26 years old, in the prime of his career, and probably has the best eye in the game. It's not about money with Soto, but the brand. The Mets want to build around Soto and have him be one of the faces of the franchise for Cohen's plan to build up Willets Point. There's a reason why Pete's market is shit. Pete is a one-dimensional player, and GM's know it. He hits for power -that's it. He doesn't hit for average, and he's not a high on base guy like Soto. He also strikes out 180 times a season and grounds into a ton of double plays; especially with the bases loaded. He's coming off two consecutive down years. He can't expect to get the contract he's asking for after the next best guy in Christian Walker signed for 3/$60M. Teoscar Hernandez is two years older and a better hitter than Pete. He signed for 3/$66M. Pete needs to wake up and re-evaluate who he takes advice from, because this is all on him.

[@Airsole23]

@@MizzAnthropewhat brand does Soto have? He has zero marketing value. He isn’t shohei, overpaid for a DH, that can’t play defense. Are we even sure he is 26? He can be 36 for all we know, those Latino tend to fake their birth certificate.

[@Airsole23]

@@MizzAnthropesoto is 1 dimensional DH, he cannot play defense. He has no brand. What companies endorses him besides one sports drink company? Plus are we really sure he is 26? People tend to fake their birth certificate

[@Metro-vq3zl]

They did overpay for Soto yet did you watch the World Series? Dodgers intentionally walked Soto to face Judge 3x. Dodgers feared Soto more than MVP Judge. Judge a shoe in for a hall of famer. In my opinion in big games Soto is one of the most respected and feared hitters to ever play.

[@nonegenarian]

i miss the conforto, degrom, syndergaard etc mets

[@user-tw1kc2qh1w]

Well Conforto and Syndergaard can only blame themselves for not being around any longer. And this Mets fan doesn't miss them one bit.

[@carlosbermudez4112]

I personally blame his agent Pete take the 90 3 years

[@ronaldhull8057]

Agreed! Pete needs to come back to reality because Boras is taking him down the road to oblivion. Remember what happened to Conforto and a few others.

[@dashx1103]

I personally think the Mets should give Pete another year and another $30 mil. That’s fair. After Pete broke the rookie HR record and established himself as the top HR hitter in the NL, the Mets paid him less than $1 mil in his next season. Pete has earned some good will. Pay him. Keep the team together. Maintain chemistry. It’s just the right and smart thing to do.

[@bobbysoverall8963]

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[@JamesSchiano]

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[@WillisBillis-u5i]

Nimmo got 162M now where near his market.

[@dashx1103]

If Nimmo gets fully healthy, he’s well worth his contract. He’s excellent when healthy.

[@edmondwinkeleer8443]

I love Pete. He's being led astray by his greedy agent. He should have taken the extension offered last year. Boris is getting too greedy.

[@bena4072]

This is exactly what I’ve been saying - Alonso is getting taken advantage of by Boras. Alonso is the client and should grow up and act like it.

[@evan-1337]

I'm calling these sleepers for Alonso, Cubs, Cards, Rangers, Red Sox.

[@DJxGameHunter]

Bregman 3B, Vientos to 1B for now, Santander on a three year. If they’re willing to sign another QO guy, which evidently they are, just go full send

[@user-yg9sc6gc1r]

Guys i have faith! Lfgm!!!

[@Metro-vq3zl]

Of course they want Pete. They offered him 30 mill a year with player allowed to opt out any year. That would make him the highest paid 1b. Pete would make more than Freddie Freeman. Alonso not worthy to shine Freeman's cleats. They offered him 7 years big deal last year and Pete turned it down. It's not that Mets don't want Pete it's that Alonso doesn't want the Mets. Pete's probably going to go to a hitter friendly ballpark. Alonso will regret this when Mets contend for WS every year.

[@dashx1103]

@@Metro-vq3zl Freeman has $162 mil guaranteed. So, let’s not exaggerate Pete’s $90 mil contract offer.

[@Metro-vq3zl]

@dashx1103 you are skewing the contracts. Pete at 30 mill a year with opt out is a better deal and let's not forget they offered Pete 7 years worth more than Freeman wich Pete and Boras turned down.... Go do you're homework and get back to me... Truth is Pete is not worthy to shine freeman's shoes and truth is Alonso is butt hurt by Sotos contract and last truth is Pete played like shit to the point manager wanted to bat him sixth and had Vientos bat cleanup... Lol u know nothing.... Bottom line is Mets made him great offer after great offer and tiny Bear turned it down... Ever think maybe it's Alonso who wants to play elsewhere? I laugh at people like u who flip stats.... BTW maybe Freeman or Vientos or even Mets Mauricio will pay Pete a million to tie their cleats.... Screw Pete and screw Boras... Greed

[@dashx1103]

@@Metro-vq3zl I’m not “skewing” anything. The claim that Pete’s offered contract would make him the “highest paid” 1b is simply wrong. Freeman’s guaranteed $162 mil is much better than a guaranteed $90 mil. It just is. The issue of whether Pete should take the offer is a different matter. The issue of whether Pete deserves more is a different matter. We can reasonably discuss those things. But pretending the Mets offered to make Pete the highest paid 1b is just, frankly, dishonest. An aside: I constantly shake my head over fans complaining about player “greed” and agent “greed.” It’s never about owner “greed.” The absolute richest people in the discussion are never branded with the “greed” label. Just successful social conditioning as far as I can tell.

[@fsociety010]

Honestly at this point, let him walk. He turned down 7/150+ because he thought he was worth more. After betting on himself and losing now he’s hopelessly waiting for a monster contract. Oh well. Maybe when he’s on the couch for a whole year like Conforto was, maybe he’ll realize his worth.

[@dashx1103]

And that helps the Mets how? This seems to be devolving into a pissing contest. I’d rather just see Pete back with the Mets.

[@alandesgrange9703]

Been a huge Met fan since 1984. Personally, I don't care either way about Alonso. It just feels like he's worn out his welcome.

[@primarycolorsvideo]

The Mets and Pete are posturing. 3 for 100 gets it done with opt out.

[@spellegren]

Go get Bregman and let Pete get whatever he can. Good luck to him.

[@stephanieluigon5192]

RE: Conforto. Agree that early on he was an asset to the Mets. But for the last 2.5 years of his tenure, the ability to get 'clutch" hits was woefully inadequate. Like many Mets of days gone by, the star was bright until it wasn't. The main problem with stats, even today's over amped useless crap, is that, unless you dig deep, you can't know whether they were homers or ribbis to put you up 6 instead of 3 (not so big a deal) or singles and doubles that scored tying or go ahead runs late in a game(a big deal). I personally think Pete can return to form if he just goes back to enjoying the game and leaves the money to take care of itself. If you can't get by on 22 M /yr. for doing something you love for 3/4 of a year, then go drive a truck for a few years. You'll feel better about yourself.

[@johnstrawb3521]

@stephanieluigon5192 There's no evidence that 'clutch' in baseball exists. Please cite even one study showing that it does. The main problem for proponents of clutch is that in the overall the performance curves for players in clutch situations is the same as in non-clutch situations, and is no different than random distributions. Take World Series PAs, a small sample size compared to a career's worth of PAs. At random, if you set up the parameters consistent with each player's regular season performance and simply rolled dice to generate results (K, BB, 1B, 2B... etc), you'd end up with a few guys with OPS's around 1.200 and a few guys with OPS's around .300, but with most guys fairly close to their reg season performances. Fans would celebrate the 1.200 guys and think of the .300 guys as chokers, but none of it would be true. Take Reggie Jackson, 'Mr. October,' lauded as the 20th century's greatest clutch performer. And yet in 11 ALCS Reggie's OPS was an abysmal .679. In short, in 2/3 of his postseason series, Reggie hit like a bad SS. Or take Bryce Harper---in his lone WS he put up a modest .760 OPS compared to his lifetime OPS of .911. With everything on the line, where did the Clutch go? In truth it probably, it almost certainly doesn't exist. *TL,DR---Baseball, in the end, is a campfire around which we make up stories to explain what are fundamentally random events occurring within the parameters of existing talent levels.* By the way, if some day ever-advancing research shows us that clutchiness does indeed exist---that there are players who can turn it on at key moments but, despite all the incentives for turning on their talent in all situations which in the contemporary game could easily sum to a hundred million dollars in increased salaries such players do not do so---Brandon Nimmo is the likeliest candidate to be such a player, where he hits 14% better for his career in High Leverage situations than he does at all other times. Even the great Eddie Murray only hit around 7% better in High Leverage situations. Why don't Mets fans know this about Nimmo?

[@stephanieluigon5192]

@@johnstrawb3521 A study? You want me to cite a "study" to support an opinion? Simply look at stats RE: RISP: 1 out: two out, resulting BA. I do take my baseball seriously, John, but I can't cite such a study. You win; there are no such things as clutch hitters. LGM!

[@guerillalou2312]

They do not want Alonso they want Guerrero.

[@christodd2273]

Nothing wrong with having both it would actually be smart

[@guerillalou2312]

@@christodd2273 you have two players that play the same position. Where are they going to play?

[@christodd2273]

@@guerillalou2312 Alanso at DH and Vlad at 1st or bounce them back and forth but either way both on the team can work and would be an extremely potent lineup to say the least with Lindore Soto Alanso Vlad Jr Vientos Alvarez and Nimmo

[@gamerdadperspective5935]

I'd love to see a 3 headed monster Arenado Alonso and Vientos lock down 3b, 1b and DH. Alonso wasn't worth the extension he was offered. He needs to come down to earth

[@hirolla74]

I'd go for Vlad Jr if Stearns can get him. If Pete went the Conforto way of wheeling and dealing, let him sit out a year while the Mets make a WS run. lol

[@marcbenjamin9436]

Teoscar got $22 per year after a 4.3 WAR season. If Pete is turning down what’s been reported then he and Boras don’t understand the market. SF has a first baseman at AAA who may be ready this year. Seattle and Toronto may as well be Siberia. Casas is probably as good in Boston.

[@donnacoulon400]

If you can't take 30 million dollars with a buyout then goodbye Pete

[@dashx1103]

I’d rather the Mets add a year - 4/$120 mil - than see Pete leave.

[@mamalannightshyaman]

yes they "want" pete alonso. No they aren't willing to overpay for alonso. Yes I want a bunch of things I see on ebay, no I'm not willing to pay for all of it

[@joesutherland9354]

The best lineup for now & the future and still have flexibility positionally and financially is signing Bregman and Santander along with lengthening the lineup. Bregman fixes 3B defense this season and is clutch and always performs in the playoffs but he also is the only player in FA that is a fail safe if the young kids don’t pop this year in Acuna and Jett but it also would allow the Mets to move off of McNeil and Marte for bullpen or SP. If Mets offered Santander 3/75 with an opt out after 1 he can up his value for next FA where his market will go up simply because there will be more players around his production and above it. When judging the FA market people have to look at the current FA’s and the following years on which positions will go up in price and next year the OF market and depth of talent is incredible compared to this FA. For example next year OF market will be Tucker, Schwarber, O’Neil, Gurriel Jr, Robert Jr, and would be Santander if he takes a 3 year with an opt out after 1 year or takes a 1 year deal ( which I don’t think he does ).

[@dashx1103]

Would love to see the Mets grab Gallen. He’s so good. I’d cough up prospects for him that I wouldn’t for most players.

[@alborrelli-py5bv]

Pete is going -going -gone -soon! If his agent advises him to hold out!

[@petercullen2196]

I think the Mets are waiting for another team to bite on Alonzo. If they let him sign elsewhere, then watch the Mets pull the strings that they've be waiting to pull. To think that David Stearns is sitting on his ass doing nothing and waiting for Pete to sign is ridiculous. David Stearns and Steve Cohen will field a World Series capable squad in 2025.

[@Y_unvflair]

The problem is this is not the roids era second I believe there has to be a no trade that Alonzo's camp not accepting bc they know vlad on radar

[@whiterabbit6091]

How can you turn down $30m

[@Jason-fe9jo]

And thats after turning down a more then fair 7 year extention the Mets offered him . Time to let Pete walk. Pay Vladdy 500 milliion for 12 and we are set. This year either sign Bregman or go with the youngens or trade for Valddy now and extend him. I have no problem giiving up something like this for Valddy - Gilbrert, Acuna , Tidwell. Blue Jays are in a tough spot. They will take what they can get. We just need Valddy to demand it.

[@dashx1103]

Because when he was clearly the best HR hitter in the NL he made less than $1 million. The idea was that after he paid his dues for six years, he’d finally be allowed to enter the so-called “free market.” Now that he’s there finally, he wants to maximize his value. This shouldn’t be hard to understand. Sadly, though, people have been conditioned to side with the billionaires when it comes to player/team contract disputes.

[@MrErnieHanks]

Get Santander, forget Pete

[@Peter-ok9bj]

What would it cost to get Yandy Diaz?

[@evan-1337]

90 mil is life charging money

[@SgtRobertLeynes]

METS SHOULD MOVE ON FROM THE POLAR BEAR PETE ALONSO HE IS NOBODY TOO ME MOVE ON HIS GREEDY DEVELISH AGENT SCOTT BORAS IS REALLY GOING NOWHERE WITH THIS STUPID CONTRACT ITS ALL MONEY GREED METS PLS MOVE ON FROM THE POLAR BEAR PETE ALONSO MOVE ON

[@marktorak5578]

I think Alonzo is due for a big year m plus he came through big time in the playoffs. Pay him 250 million over 5 years There making a big mistake letting him go. Plus th3 team needs starting pitching Now they need more hitting

[@SiTengoHambre]

Just switch vientos to first and work with baty 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@SiTengoHambre]

Or resign omg

[@GeraldM_inNC]

Go all in on Vlad, now.

[@F30Jay]

Thought this guy was a Yankees fan with all the glazing he's done in the off season

[@Patrick-o8l6m]

I wish Pete would take it play your ass of hit a bunch of homers still only be 33 when contract is up rebound have a couple outstanding years and then get more come on Pete met fans love ya

[@rickcuban322]

Oh dear God, I’ve heard enough about Alonso already if he doesn’t want to sign then don’t sign him. And for the record, I’ve been a Mets fan since 1967. Love Pete, but he had a horrible year and doesn’t deserve it.

[@punkrockAssociatesDegree]

I think Alonso is Bay area bound

[@tvbtvb5124]

The real question, I think, does Pete Alonzo really want the Mets?

[@user-tw1kc2qh1w]

He's a narcissist with a fake ego he needs the high salary mega contract to make himself feel like he's a superstar, well rounded player that he's really not.

[@dashx1103]

I think the question is whether the Mets want him. He’s been a great player for the Mets during a time when he was locked out of the marketplace. Now that he finally hits free agency, it only makes sense that he wants to maximize his value. I’d like to see the richest billionaire owner in sports step up and sign/reward Pete. It’s good for the player, the team, and the fans. It should happen.

[@dashx1103]

@@user-tw1kc2qh1wHe broke the major league record for HRs by a rookie and established himself as the best HR hitter in the NL. And for that he was rewarded with a salary of less than $700,000. He is just now finally hitting free agency, and he wants to maximize his value … and fans claim the problem is his “ego” and his “greed.” It is amazing to me, and sad, that people have been so conditioned to side with the billionaires anytime there is a player/team dispute. smfh It’s why they always win.

[@DaveOriginallyfromBrooklyn]

Remember sf offered Aaron judge a huge number. He decided to stay in ny. They will pay.

[@eyesontheinsides]

Good question. I'm a bit dismayed by how Stearns has handled this situation. If you didn't think Pete was the best 1B/middle order power option, then you should have made a move with one of the dozen other options when you had the opportunity . Likewise, if you do believe he's the player you want, I think you have to go out and get him. Not to say 7 years, but to offer 3 and hope the market allows that instead of offering 4 yrs with an option or 5 to just get it done - this isn't the last bat on your bench like with JD last year- this is your cleanup hitter! I don't understand how you jump for Montas early in the offseason but haven't shown that kind of decisive action since (other than Soto). This ambivalence is just not good.

[@Patrick-o8l6m]

I don’t believe them either Heyman is talking crap for Boras

[@danielwilhelm8870]

They want Vlad next offseason

[@user-tw1kc2qh1w]

I don't believe the Mets prefer Alonso, they only want him if they can get him on a more fair deal. I don't blame them though Alonso is for the most part a one dimensional unclutch goofy and a narcissist who thinks he's worth much more than he is. I do not blame the Mets for preferring other options available this year or even next or for not offering Alonso a contract that will be untradeable.

[@kingpinballer242]

Mets want Guerrero

[@AndyMilonakis-j5p]

I like the idea of Pete being a met for life. I don’t actually like it on paper. Bros destined to become an overpaid DH sooner rather than later. Not worth the long term commitment.

[@lowkey145]

No short range and bad glove no, not Pete.

[@kevinminns5272]

I don’t think they want him and I think wherever he goes met fans are going to regret what he does for the next team the way giant fans now regret what Shaon Barkley is doing for the Philadelphia Eagles

[@Standdividedfalltogether]

Been saying the same guys 3-90 get Pete to 7-200 any way to slice it. Something isn’t making sense here. Max im ok with is 5-125. But if im Pete im taking 3-90 and hit at citi with Soto in this lineup and do what Soto did but after last year he probably doesn’t wanna do that again and he knows vlady is coming. It’s all a mess. The 7 years was before vlady. Now vlady is a FA soon it’s 3. Writing is on the wall

[@nostalgic9856]

Not sure but I read somewhere there was opt outs after the first and second year. It would make sense that Pete would turn it down if those were club option opt-outs, which would essentially mean he's getting a 1 year 30 year deal because you know the team will opt out after the first year for vlad jr.

[@Patrick-o8l6m]

Can’t count on Vlad he may not even want to come here gonna throw away this year for a hope that’s crazy you got Lindor and Soto . Looks like trout all over poor guy

[@Juan-Soto-Mets]

No. He is going to the Giants.

[@user-tw1kc2qh1w]

As a Met fan I hope so.

[@christodd2273]

@MetsdUp You say hes not that valuable but i say your wrong hes not as bad a 1st basemen as everyone thinks he plays every single day hes ALWAYS healthy good in the clubhouse good in NY not fazed by the media hits 35+ and drives in 100+ (except in 24) he wants to be here and is now proven in the post season not to mention the man rolled his truck and still showed up ready to play so what more do we have the right to ask of him? Give him 6 for 162 thats 27 per year and thats fair

[@tvbtvb5124]

If Pete wanted to be a Mets for a long time he would have taken their seven~extension contract he was offered last year. Let him go. He’s overrating himself.

[@christodd2273]

@tvbtvb5124 no he wouldn't have he is just like everyone else he wants to get the most he can for him and his family so don't blame him blame his agent he's the one in Pete's ear promising him the world. I'm tired of hearing ignorant comments like yours it just shows how unintelligent people are when it comes to these things everyone thinks oh just take it it's alot of money when yes it is to us but not the players comparatively speaking so it's not all cut and dry like everyone thinks or assumes so I say to everyone making these flat out stupid comments exercise some common sense before speaking/typing. And I'll let you in on a little secret Pete DOES want to be a Met otherwise he would have taken an offer any offer from another team already so again common sense.

[@edwardmcdougal6354]

I love Pete and hope he comes back but he turned down a fantastic offer and chose his agent. After that it is now pure business and the Mets can’t wait. They need to build their roster before other options dry up.

[@aj-runner]

Please Pete, go to the Giants!!!

[@donnypotter8606]

Dont cohen have a team opt out for juan after 5yrs ? Why the hell dont we do similar with alonso!!!!!!

[@dashx1103]

No. Player opt out.

[@donnypotter8606]

Ok thanks , thought if we paid $55 it cleared

[@dashx1103]

@@donnypotter8606 Yeah. It is a player opt out that the Mets can void by increasing the yearly AAV. It isn’t a team opt out, though.

[@donnypotter8606]

Thnk u sir lfgm

[@dashx1103]

@@donnypotter8606 👍

[@emonge9104]

You should consider that Apple and Spotify are NOT all your audience... Food for thought...

[@JamesSchiano]

We love our KZbin fam 💜

[@johnstrawb3521]

@Mets'd Up Podcast 3/90m for Alonso? PETE Alonso??? Of course not. Stearns isn't an idiot. The Mets rate to do as well if not better in 2025 just by moving Vientos to 1B and handing 3B to Mauricio with (gulp) Baty as the backup plan there---fangraphs has Baty projected in 2025 for what looks like an optimistic 1.8 fWAR but he wasn't actually... well... horrible in 2024, with surprisingly competent defense at third, modest improvement at the plate, and either 0.3 bWAR or 0.5 fWAR in about 30% of a season. In short, the media wouldn't be pretty, but even if Baty is no better in 2025 than in 2024 he'd put up 1.5 to 2.0 fWAR in 2025. A weak but not a ridiculously poor bat particularly if you shelter him from LHP, with average defense at the hot corner. 3/90m for Alonso is so utterly ridiculous in this context that IF true it had to have been Cohen interceding. There's not a chance in the world Stearns, or ANY above average GM / PBOP would offer a 30-year old R-R 1Bman already in steep decline a 30m AAV, let alone 3/90m with opt-outs that limit the (unlikely) upside for the team but stick you with him in the far more likely event that he continues to decline and hangs around at 30m for another season of sub-2 WAR production. CONTEXT IS EVERYTHING: Say you can pick up a fraction of a win in 2025 by moving Vientos to the easier defensive position that is 1B, and where he has played competently in half a season in pro ball. Say his projection therefore moves from 2.6 WAR to 3.0 WAR. Say, also, that Baty at 3B puts up his projected 1.8 WAR. Between the two their total WAR sums to 4.8 WAR in 2025---not bad for about $2m. BUT, instead, say the Mets bring back Pete at the rumored 3/90m and he gives them the fangraph's projected 2.4 fWAR at 1B to go with Vientos' 2.6 fWAR at 3B. *_Overall the Mets are adding, get this, just 0.2 WAR for $30 million._* ----That's sheer, unadulterated lunacy. The Mets can also fall back on Mauricio at 3B, or even make him their starting 3B with Baty as the backup plan. The Mets can also bring back Iglesias or any other solid backup IFer with a 3Bman's arm, such that even if their production at 3B only sums to 1.0 WAR in total in 2025, they'll still only be picking up 1 WAR in the overall for $30 million by bringing Pete "Kingman" Alonso and continuing to suffer Vientos' glove at 3B. Some of this is entirely simple: The Mets already have a useful floor under 3B. Signing Pete doesn't give them Pete's production against 0.0 WAR, it gives them Pete's production against a floor close to 2.0 WAR and probably 1.0 WAR at worst, AND it costs them roughly half a win by keeping Vientos' glove at 3B rather than moving him to 1B. You have to put in the work on the predictable fates of 30 yo R-R 1Bmen already in the process of falling off a cliff, where for the entire expansion era the number of such 1Bmen warranting a 3/90m contract in the dollars of their era is probably no more than a dozen players----IN 63 YEARS. There's nothing about Pete to date that suggests he's an exception to the rule of continuing stark decline.

[@illscribe]

I could see Alonso taking a one year deal with another team just to say FU to the Mets because of that insulting three year deal

[@Peter-ok9bj]

No one else will give him 30M plus they have to give up draft picks.

[@bryantmercedes8567]

First LFGM🔵🟠

[@Dan-tt8sn]

🏆

[@MetsdUp]

🐐

[@ZM4C]

Boras is a cancer for this game. I hope Pete and others learn a lesson here and dump him

[@thomasramirez718]

Boras and Heyman

[@dashx1103]

Boras wins way more than he loses. Like it or not, there is a reason players flock to him.

[@Patrick-o8l6m]

6/150 is good tell him we love you but that’s our final offer we hope you stay and be a franchise guy but if not best of luck hope you do great things

[@darylreichard9476]

How about we give Trevor Bauer some money and get him back in the mlb

[@ShahrooziFashion]

I don’t know what Stearns waiting for. We only got Soto and Manea so far but we need a ton more. Alonso looks like still stalling, we lost Kyle Tucker, we lost Burnes…. Let’s hurry up and get Bregman and either Santander or Alonso. Resign Winker for that bench bat and what he does for the culture. Trade for Luis Castillo. And get 2 good bullpen arms. C’mon

[@MrErnieHanks]

We upgraded CF exponentially with Siri over Bader

[@MrErnieHanks]

Also got Clay Holmes who will play a large role

[@FittedInThe798]

What kind of hat is that philly fanatic? Wtf lol

[@Travela-k3q]

This guy is a one dimensional player. Take away his power and he’s useless. Mets have all the leverage. Give him a team friendly deal. Take it or leave it

[@originalmindset5278]

We METS FANS have gone from Believers to Dreamers. 😵‍💫🤯🙄

[@dominickdicarlo1191]

You two bake a ton of unfounded assumptions into your videos and analysis, lmfao.

[@MetsdUp]

Like what?

[@jessicaramirez4354]

I love pete but we dont need him

[@ronokoren8101]

Boras/Alonso have overplayed their hand ..... 3 years/$90M is a fair value for Pete. Frankly, I am disappointed over the way this whole hot stove process has gone for the Mets .... What exactly has Sterns done? Soto is all Cohen. Love bringing Manaea back but the rest of the signings have been trash (just like last year with signing Short, Wendell, Diekman, Ottavino, Jorge López, Tonkin, Ramirez and trading for Houser) ..... with Sterns, there are more misses than hits (Iglesias, Taylor). There has to be something here we are all missing. Could it be that the Mets really don't want Alonso clogging up 1B because they will make an all out assault on signing Vlad Jr. next year? Sure seems like it. It's also odd to me that Sterns who has a reputation for liking to make trades, has only traded for Siri and is still holding onto all these "prospects" which appear to have declining value. OF for example ..... Nimmo is a lock in LF, Soto is a lock in RF ..... I can see Acuna as a potential CF'er but where are Gilbert and Clifford going to play? Jett Williams at 2B? Not while McNeil is here. I could go on and on. Finally, what is up with Iglesias and Winker? Both provided a great deal of inspiration and heart into the 2024 Mets and they appear to be getting the 1986 Ray Knight treatment ..... the value that both of these guys bring goes far beyond their salary. Rant over.

[@SgtRobertLeynes]

METS SHOULD MAKE FINAL OFFER 3 YRS AT $127 MILLION END OF STORY

[@DaveOriginallyfromBrooklyn]

Give Pete 5 years 125-135 with a opt out every year. And get it done.

[@Dan-tt8sn]

My prediction, pete will be a giant. 7/180. They’re desperate to get players to come there and they have loads of money. This is one prediction where I really hope I’m wrong. 😢

[@dashx1103]

If the Giants give him 7/180 mil … so be it. I hope the Mets bring him back at 4-5 years. I guess we’ll see.

[@eyesontheinsides]

Agreed. All it takes is one stupid team- which is why I think Stearns has dropped the ball here. If he wasn't willing to go to 5 or even 4 for Pete, he should have jumped on one of the other options. Instead, he let them all slip off the board and is trying to JD Martinez Pete, who's a much better hitter at this point.

[@dashx1103]

@@eyesontheinsidesIf Pete gets 7/180 from SF, then Stearns not going 4-5 on a contract is irrelevant.

[@eyesontheinsides]

@@dashx1103 true, but then not jumping on any other option while there were plenty out there when you only wanted Pete on a submarket deal is shitty process

[@dashx1103]

@@eyesontheinsides I guess we need to see how it plays out to judge that. I think fans tend to get impatient and forget that it’s still December. There is plenty of free agency left. Maybe the Mets prioritize Alonso, but have backup plans - Santander, Winker, etc. Do you just abandon plan A because it is December 30? It’s complicated. So, I’ll reserve judgment for now.

[@petervongino9523]

He stinks