Do we all just need ONE bike? This could be the one. Standert Pfadfinder Gravel/Road Steel Bike

[@bicivini]

Fully understand the addiction 😅 building up and chasing parts is half of the fun 🙌🏽

[@klein-concept]

You are so right 🫣

[@larrymcgoldrick3471]

For me it's only really important to have a full-on road bike and gravel bike just in case. Not into switching wheels and so forth. Two bikes are just much easier to deal with. Thanks.

[@klein-concept]

I agree. Way better to have two dedicated bikes 🤜🤛. And maybe some more 😂😂

[@tonyg3091]

Hey, what about the MTB? And full sus MTB…and Ti bike..and an endurance bike…and….

[@klein-concept]

@@tonyg3091 now we re talking 😂😂

[@larrymcgoldrick3471]

@@klein-concept You guys are NOT helping... 🚲🚲🚲🚲🚲🚲LOL🤣🤣🤣

[@DG-tf9rp]

N+1 is what makes you a cyclists. It is like shaving your legs. you just do it. You are normal. I have 10 bikes.

[@klein-concept]

Hehe thank you for the support 😂😂😂. Damn 10 is a legit amount. I guess you just need 1 more 🫣.

[@DG-tf9rp]

I am planning on 1 more. 11 is a good number. My Girl friend has 5, so I should be ok.@@klein-concept

[@klein-concept]

@@DG-tf9rp sounds like she understands the pain of only having n amount of bikes 😂😂

[@milkbunnies]

This is the way…

[@ashleyhouse9690]

If you are any sort of serious cyclist who rides regularly you always need at least two bikes. Often one bike is out of commission because of some sort of maintenance especially if you are waiting for parts that you have ordered. Then if you want to ride you switch to bike #2. That's just for road and gravel, if you ride MTB as well you need at least another bike for that!

[@klein-concept]

I fully agree. Happy to hear its normal to have multiple bikes and it actually making sense 😂😂

[@mogglie]

I’ve recently built up a steel frame with dura ace 7800. And 34mm tyres. It’s my daily drive to work and I spend most of my time on in. I have a dogma 65,1 too. Full carbon 10 years old but still super bling. In the long run steel frames are more useful for most people.

[@klein-concept]

Lovely setup. What model steel frame are you running? 34mmntire clearance sounds impressive 🤩

[@G60syncro]

Like others said, the quest is part of the fun!! I've spent all of last winter hunting fordeals on parts and slowly building up my bike and when it was all put together there was this joyful moment of "Yay! let's ride!" quickly followed with "Okay, now what?". I'm building a winter specific bike to deal with our Canadian winters and it's going to be a fun build but then again, what's next!! I think getting into building bikes for friends who are not that mechanically inclined might be a cure to this "problem"...

[@klein-concept]

Very well put. What next ... The answer could always be to go and ride but somehow building is always very tempting. Initially i planned to build some bikes and then sell them to friends at the component cost but most of the time i fall in love with the builds and keep them 😂😂

[@JordyJayHomer]

If I had a bike like that, I wouldn't want it to get too wet. We need at LEAST 2 bikes, 😄 mostly in case one is broken, but also it's best not to get your fancy stuff wet. Water does more damage than many people know. It finds ways to get in bearings, etc, etc. I have a dedicated wet day bike, which is aluminium, black, and has old stuff on it. I don't like my newer expensive stuff getting saturated. I also have a couple of dedicated wet day front wheels, because rim brakes can chew through braking surfaces quickly.

[@klein-concept]

Hehe so at least two bikes it is. Which one wre you taking out when it might be raining?

[@JordyJayHomer]

@@klein-concept It's a cheap aluminium frame called a Pro-Lite Bella (they were easy to get here in Australia for ages) that I painted black and put older components on it, which are a mix of Shimano 9 and 10-speed 105, Ultegra and Dura-Ade. The rear wheel is a Velocity Deep V, and the current front rim is an old 32-spoke Araya, which is meant to have thick side walls (it took me ages to wear out another one). Ultegra hubs. So, it's not junk, but the stuff is old enough that I wouldn't mind if it got trashed in the next couple of years

[@eteokles3]

This bike actually is not a gravel bike. According to their website it is an all road endurance bike. And it is true, you won't need multiple bikes. Something like the Pfadfinder can be good for everything, but the extremes. If you are into road racing you might want to have a designated bike for that and same goes for proper gravel, single track and off road bike packing. But for the majority of people an endurance all road bike made of the steel is the best option.

[@klein-concept]

Ah you are right. When i bought it it was still in the gravel category. But makes sense to call it an all road endurance one.

[@maikwinter856]

I've been a happy owner of a Standert Pfadfinder for almost two weeks. What can I say... I've ridden almost 500km on it now and damn the bike rides well. Fast and comfy even at long distances. I have now accumulated three bikes. A steel fixed gear and a carbon gravel bike. The carbon gravel bike will probably leave the family as I am more than happy with my remaining two steel bikes. But I never say never to an additional steel bike... A Standert Triebwerk, a Kettensäge or even a Erdgeschoss for rough stuff could make me weak 😏

[@klein-concept]

Great setup you re having there 🤩. Yes think about that Triebwerk. It s a beauty.

[@robertschone6227]

What's your thought about considering to sell the carbon gravel and consider to go for Kettensäge? I'm currently thinking about to buy a Pfadfinder and I'm not sure if Kettensäge would be the better choice 🤔 Will be on light gravel and or mid gravel for the majority of time. Pfadfinder should handle this easily I guess?

[@klein-concept]

@@robertschone6227 i never tried the Kettensäge but the Pfadfinder is a machine. Will easily handle light gravel as well as some solid gravel paths 🤜🤛

[@hirnflug2557]

Nice to look at video, interesting arguments raised and last but not least: beautiful bike - thumbs up!!! BTW: I am riding a 45 years old steel road bike - confident the frame will last another 45.years..

[@klein-concept]

Thanks a lot buddy. Steel road trip next 🤜🤛

[@teunluijbregts2533]

Do you rationalize your n+1? For example: You should be fine with one allround bike - plus a spare. Plus a bike for fast group rides (don’t want to sl😅w down your friends by waiting) - plus a spare. And a bike for commuting, supermarket etc.

[@klein-concept]

Haha that is more or less the way how i explain all my bikes 🫣

[@joec942]

You said the magic words, " it has a T47 BB and a Chris King headset". Nice bike, ride safe buddy 👍🚲

[@klein-concept]

🪄🪄🪄 hehe 🫶

[@tommilano5431]

I feel the same way about carbon bikes. Have 2 steel single speeds with steel forks, and 2 carbon road bikes. Thinking of getting titanium for my next all road bike and getting rid of 1 or both of my carbon bikes. Also, I like your editing style, changing the scene to the best of the music- I do the same in my vlogs. Very nice video!

[@klein-concept]

Sounds like a really good addition to give titanium a try. Am also thinking about it for a while already. Thanks a lot. Glad you like the videos. Also had a look at yours and you got a new subscriber 🤜🤛

[@Yocambio]

Easy answer. Bare minimum is 2 bikes: one road, one gravel. Today I have a Cannondale Synapse and a 3T Exploro. But what I'm finding is the limit of the 3T in terms of "gravel" use and have realised that a mountain bike is in order - most likely a hard-tail 29er - for those times when the "gravel" becomes single track and technical. Of course, it's possible to craft a gravel bike that works better in those conditions but since I already have a gravel bike it's easier to just add the MTB to the quiver.

[@klein-concept]

All makes sense to me. Curious to hear what you will say about that MTB and the fun factor it might bring along. I currently still have too much respect for these technical segments 🫣

[@Yocambio]

@@klein-concept - I sold my 29er before moving to Spain in 2021. At the time I had a dedicated road bike, a commuter bike and the MTB. So when I got the 3T my first reaction was how much faster and more responsive it is compared to the 29er. But I gradually realised that performance came at the cost of scaring the hell out of myself on technical sections where the 29er would have been calm and composed, particularly on descents.

[@klein-concept]

@@Yocambio thats actually good to know. So maybe i also need an MTB to cofortably do the off road adventures. 🤩

[@RobertRauchfuss]

Man I love Standert Frames! I myself have a Kreissäge RS Blackwidow and consider myself a proud owner ❤️ But this Frame and the Paintjob is so dope man! Thanks for sharing insights again -> love you channel, keep it up bro

[@klein-concept]

You got one of the best ever looking frames. Wish they would have released a steel on in that paint job 🫶

[@haemstah]

Recently watched your first vid where you mentioned being one of those types that can get bored with things after a while, then switch to something else. Watched your nice steel road frame vids and now here you are thinking about dumping things for the Standert. Pretty funny 😂 Im going down the N+1 at the moment. Have a nice ti gravel build, but after going down the rabbit hole of vintage steel neo-retro, i found a good condition old Raleigh SBDU 753 frameset. Frame is 1570gm. Fork is 667gm. 😊 Nice vids!

[@klein-concept]

Haha you got me there 🫣. At least the Standard ones are also all steel. Sounds like you have a proper 💎 there. High potential for a lightweight build.

[@FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv]

about n+1 bikes... Well.. bikes are fun. New bikes are fun. No bike is going to be entirely perfect so it's easy to have some small annoyance with a current bike turn into buying a new bike. Or our preferences and ideas change a little bit

[@klein-concept]

🫶

[@chaowang2019]

some of my friends also ordered this frame recently. love the paint work of this bike.

[@klein-concept]

It is a really fun ride 🤌🤌🤌

[@convivator]

Do not ever try any drug! You have an addictive personality!

[@klein-concept]

Haha 🫣

[@kelemenrichard]

I already have 2 vintage steel bikes which I love, that is the only thing keeping me from buying a Standert (that and the price of a new bike). If something would happen to my main frame (please god no), my next bike would definiately be a Triebwerk! Great video, and nice collection!

[@klein-concept]

Thanks a lot but dont leave me hanging here 😂😂. Tell me more about these vintage steel bikes. 🤩

[@kelemenrichard]

@@klein-concept ok, didn't wan't to make this about my stuff, but here is a short video of them kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5yXaaSketuGj5o ‎😃 Long story short: I ride a thoroughly upgraded Bridgestone RB-2 everywhere, and when the weather is bad or I have to leave my bike for longer times in the open (which even if I have to, I find a way not to do it) I ride my Giant Speeder Lite

[@kelemenrichard]

I also recently upgraded my coffee brewing setup and Latte art skills 😂

[@klein-concept]

Thanks for sharing the link. These are two very lovely bikes. They must be amazing to ride 🤩

[@fleurdelispens]

Long, long term, I see myself owning 3 bikes: a commuter, a fast and fun all-road bike, and an ecargo bike

[@klein-concept]

Would be the perfect setup 🤜🤛

[@MarcioSa12]

Totally understand your pain, I’m facing the same “problem” 😅 keep telling myself enough is enough… still not working. Nice bike you have there!

[@klein-concept]

Hehe glad to hear that. Whats number are you at atm? 🫣

[@charlesblithfield6182]

Specialized used to make this amazing 1 3/4 inch tire called Crossroads in the 1980s (there have been versions with this name but not the same at all). It had a centre band of raised rubber with a little texture on it about 1 cm wide that was solid and relatively slick plus knobby sides. Rolled very fast on the road but could handle pretty soft dirt. I’ve never seen a tire like it, often they’re a slick centre channel on these hybrid tires but this one was raised. With new compounds and other new tire tech it would be a do it all tire.

[@klein-concept]

It sounds very similar to the new Specialized Pathfinder tire. If i would decide to go for some more gravel adventures again i think this would be the tire i would go for as one of the riders in our group was riding it and had no problems with the deep sandy segments.

[@Exgrmbl]

Schwalbe land cruiser and hurricane look similar from what i can see.

[@klein-concept]

True that 🤜🤛

[@matthewshaw3747]

American Classic Kimberlite sounds like this. I have them as a 50mm, wife runs 42s.

[@atletico1946]

Another great video, thank you Michael!

[@klein-concept]

Thank you mate 🤜🤛

[@wokex]

Interesting to hear! There is a bit limited info/reviews of Standerts bikes so really fun to hear your thoughts on this frame. Would be cool to see something similar for the triebwerk.

[@klein-concept]

Glad you enjoyed it. There will be a full Triebwerk build coming up once the frame arrives 🤜🤛

[@faithwyar]

I would love to see the rest of your fleet!

[@klein-concept]

Will try to do some profile videos about the rest of the bikes 🫶

[@matiassamo]

Think the decision to run the black headset is the right one for this version! PR material had the Mango, but IMO looks much better with the black. I have LTD || with Matte Mango headset myself and run it as a do-it-all bike. Happy days if you don't mind the occasional caliber adjustment etc.

[@klein-concept]

Thank you 🫶. Do you switch wheels or do you have one do it all wheelset? And if so which tires are you running?

[@matiassamo]

Two wheel-sets. Lightbicycle 46AR I use for road with 28mm P-Zero and a set of DT Swiss GR 1600 for Gravel with 35mm Good Year Connector. Works really well for me. If things get gnarly I'll jump on a mountain bike, I mostly run fast gravel. But I've also done "cross-like" routes on the gravel wheel set, and that's sweet too.@@klein-concept Just ordered Galfer rotors in 140mm to replace my Sram 160mm. Should bring down the weight a bit as well :)

[@klein-concept]

@@matiassamo wicked. Very cool setup 🤜🤛

[@matiassamo]

Btw @@klein-concept which cassette are you using? Been thinking about trying some lightweight Ali options.

[@klein-concept]

@@matiassamo on this one i am using an ultegra cassette but have the lightweight aliexpress ones on some other bikes. They work great. And especially with the eRX it should be even smoother as you can dial in every shifting step.

[@MrBillboeing]

I am guilty too😂 1 Giant MTB, 1 Globe Fixie, 1 Seka Afield (for travel), 1 Seka Exceed (Aero Endurance) , 1 Spezialized Allez Sprint (For quick spins) & 1 Van Rysel AFR (Swift - Bike) …. No more space at home 😅 the gravel bike is missing but there is also no gravel around. I would love to try a Standert bike …

[@klein-concept]

Damn. You re next level 🫶. How are the Seka bikes? Also had my eye on them for a while.

[@MrBillboeing]

@@klein-concept the quality seems good , one has 14k and the other 10k on the frame. The exceed looks like the baby from Venge & Factor Ostro. I am sure they come from the same factory as the Factor and also the Aurum. You can have it easily build up around 7kg. Would recommend… the economic choice for a super bike

[@klein-concept]

@@MrBillboeing and there goes an extra bike haha.

[@matthewshaw3747]

I have a very similar frame (steel) to this and the second set of wheels with 38s on it. I really think it covers me for a huge amount of cycling. Because of this I am converting my gravel bike to more of a commuter with mudguards and a front rack/basket. But I also have a an XC MTB and a cargo bike. But I think 4 in enough.

[@klein-concept]

Also amazing collection. What is your do it all steel frame? Would be very interested.

[@matthewshaw3747]

@@klein-concept it’s a custom Mamtor frame from Quirk Cycles. Fully integrated front end. It’s been so good. I also run 32s as my road tyres as I’d rather be comfortable than 2% faster.

[@klein-concept]

@@matthewshaw3747 oh yes a Quirk. That would be a really good single bike to have. This guy is really building some beautiful frames. Congrats. 😍

[@shannonparker7404]

I have a Ritchey Outback and a Ritchey Road Logic. Like you, I got sick of being anxious that my super expensive carbon bike would be damaged if I dropped it or whatever. Happy days now, ride and repeat.

[@klein-concept]

Love that setup. Had the road logic on my list as well. How do you like it?

[@shannonparker7404]

@@klein-concept Love my Road Logic. I can’t see any sensible reason to get something else. Shimano has just released a 12 speed mechanical 105 group set that I can’t wait to put on it. This and my 50mm Caden Carbon wheels and it’s a surprisingly good ride.

[@klein-concept]

@@shannonparker7404 sounds like a beauty of a bike 🤩

[@mr.rodriguez3512]

I have been a steel rider for 30+ years and owned only 4 steel bikes: a 1992 Schwinn Paramount (still with me), a 2004 Olmo Corsa Criterium (not anymore), 2016 Logic and a 2022 50th Anniversary Edition. The Logic is the Greatest I ever owned. @shannonparker7404

[@shannonparker7404]

​@@mr.rodriguez3512I do wish Ritchey would release a Di2 compatible frame. That would be my next purchase.

[@tonyg3091]

Never heard of Standert but you cant go far wrong with a steel bike made of Columbus tubes if it is well made and geometry suits you.

[@klein-concept]

Glad to hear that. Yes they are a small brand compared to the big players but do some cool steel and aluminium bikes 🤜🤛

[@SurpriseMeJT]

If the tube profiles are poorly chosen, often for economic reasons, any bike will ride terribly. 44mm head tubes are way too big and not optimal for a steel bike.

[@tonyg3091]

@@SurpriseMeJT Have you seen an Officina Battaglin bike? Their head tube looks even bigger than that and no one has ever said they ride terribly

[@klein-concept]

@@SurpriseMeJT the Standert actually rides amazing. Only on deep sand i had some issues with these tires but in road mode it is great fun.

[@klein-concept]

@@tonyg3091 agreed. Wish one day i could ride a bike from them.

[@dioright]

If you don't focus on pure performance (which almost nobody do), this bike would be a good choice. However I believe that aluminium frames way better, because weight stifness ratio. This is disc brake, fat tire setup, so aluminium definitely won't hold back on lazy, slow rides. It ain't fast anyway.

[@klein-concept]

Hehe i m definitely not the pure performance person even tho sometimes i wish i did. Aluminium is a good idea but like with carbon it is too fragile for me when it comes do dents.

[@nursultansaljakbaj9401]

I have 40 bikes. Addiction like Heroin or Crystal😅😂

[@klein-concept]

Hahahahahhaha. Nice one. You re next level. Respect. 🤜🤛

[@bobzuidema3560]

no hub sound... very disappointing ;-) on topic now, I am a very happy biker riding only 1 (ONE!) bike so it can be done ;-) maybe you should try a ti-bike too or are you afraid for the outcome? Love your content btw, keep them coming! Cheers Bob

[@klein-concept]

Hehe 🫣. I actually have a ti bike now. Unboxing is on the channel and build video coming tomorrow. Might be the ultimate bike 😍

[@bobzuidema3560]

@@klein-concept Indeed I just watched the two vid's regarding the ti-bike, interesting company that is Waltly. I am very curious about the build process!

[@raphaelmathe2111]

The top tube dents very easily on steel in my experience

[@klein-concept]

But i think it is still safe to ride it with a dent while on aluminium its is not. Right? 🫣

[@raphaelmathe2111]

Safety is tricky and I would rather avoid this topic@@klein-concept

[@BARTHEZ42]

Interesting that you have a steel frame for peace of mind and a carbon handlebar which seems to be component most exposed to damage.

[@klein-concept]

Good point but my peace of mind is more driven by when the bike falls over, is being transported or worst case crashes. If i dent the handlebar i can easily swap it while swapping the whole frame for security is a bigger investment.

[@glennmcfarlane5513]

Hi from Canada. What bottle cages are on your Standert.....which looks fantastic by the way. Thanks and keep up the great video's.

[@klein-concept]

Thanks a lot. The bottle cages are some lightweight carbon ones from Aliexpress but it seems that the offer is not online anymore 🫣.

[@Ghostina1]

Man braucht immer mehr Räder... vollkommen gegen den Trend!!! N+1 ... Fully, Hardtail, Aerobike, Gravel...

[@klein-concept]

Da bin ich dabei 🤜🤛

[@MIHALMICHAEL]

look nice. make another video with a closer look. also change that stem for an extralite one.

[@klein-concept]

Hehe already have an extralite stem waiting here. But it is for another bike. So might have to get a second one 🫣

[@20dpb]

Great video on a beautiful bike. What frame eyeglasses do you have they are cool, ray bans?

[@klein-concept]

Thanks a lot mate. The glasses are from a company called retrosuperfuture. Have a look. They have a lot of great frames.

[@CL-dh2mf]

Fun video! I'm in some sort of the same boat here. Just got a Standert Kettensäge I dont really need but got the Bikeleasing option. Plan is to sell my pure road bike.🤷🤷🤷

[@klein-concept]

That is a beautiful bike. What setup did you get?

[@CL-dh2mf]

@@klein-concept Its the give'em hell Caramel colour with the GRX 11sp mechanical groupset. Just did my first proper ride and really enjoyed it!😊

[@klein-concept]

Wicked setup. Congrats in the new bike 🤜🤛

[@btbike_24]

Stumbled across standert recently and would love to own one but not in the market for that price range rn haha so gorgeous tho

[@klein-concept]

Depending on where you live have a look on the second hand market. Sometimes they show up with some good deals 🤜🤛

[@Robert_Thomas832]

One bike isn't enough, surely three is the minimum. One folder, one fast road and a shopping/cargo.

[@klein-concept]

Minimum 🤜🤛

[@Robert_Thomas832]

Thanks for your reply. Forgot the all terrain machine - 4 🚲

[@noogscustombarn5321]

I have 23bikes now and still got the feeling to miss some#

[@klein-concept]

Ok you re officially my hero now. 🤩

[@FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv]

Anyone know what the actual aerodynamic penalty is of these kind of framesets (watts at 40kph) vs modern aero-ish designs like an SL8 / System 6 / Propel / whatever?

[@klein-concept]

Good question. Would love to know as well.

[@FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv]

@@klein-concept the only direct comparison data I could find is from a GCN video. They used an oldish steel racing bike with box section wheels vs a pretty aero looking though maybe 5-10 years old now Pinarello with carbon wheels. I think at 45kph the difference was only 20 watts. A surprisingly low difference. Then they tested wearing old style clothes on the old bike vs wearing modern skinsuit/aero helmet etc on the old bike. The old clothes added 50 watts at 45 kph!!

[@EstelonAgarwaen]

Even the gravelking sk (small knob, 35mm in my case) are fine on the road. sure, slightly slower, but still plenty enough. my bike is kinda the aluminium do it all bike for the smaller wallet: canyon endurace AL 7. just works.

[@klein-concept]

Love that Canyon one. Great bike and thanks for the info on the sk tire. 🤜🤛

[@speedsociety9177]

Super nice video, this channel deserves more subs :) Since I am also based in Berlin, would be interested in the Gravel ride route you did? Do you have a komoot or strava account? Beste Grüße!

[@klein-concept]

Thanks a lot. Yes my Strava is Michael Klein and this is the route: strava.app.link/IGXZeWvSbDb 🤜🤛

[@tongalizia3175]

1 carbon bike, crash, now trash,,,,,,,steel bike,, many falls still rolling….

[@klein-concept]

So true. Already made that experience myself as well. 🤜🤛

[@enriquevera2000]

YOLO !!!!! buy another Bike !!!!!

[@klein-concept]

Haha. On it 🫣

[@the.communist]

We dont know 1 thing: standert is the STANDARD bike.

[@klein-concept]

There are just sommany Standerts 😂😂

[@66mikkim]

Carbon hält viel mehr aus als du glaubst. Mir wurde leider schon 2 mal die Vorfahrt genommen, der Rahmen ist unbeschädigt. Versuche mal einen alten Carbonrahmen mit einem Hammer zu Zerstören. Es wird dich überraschen was der alles aushält.

[@klein-concept]

Hab leider schon einmal einen karbonrahmen bei einem crash zerrissen. Da war dann der gabelschaft in zwei geteilt 🫣. Aber hast schon recht. Danach habe ich einfach mal versucht die gabel zu brechen und es war echt nicht einfach. Ist also sicher eher kopfsache.

[@66mikkim]

@@klein-concept denke es kommt auch Stark auf die Rahmenkonstuktion an, und aus welchem Karbon alles aufgebaut ist.

[@klein-concept]

@@66mikkim auf jeden. Guter punkt. Da gibts ja auch krasse unterschiede. Ein lightweight carbon rad ist sicher etwas anfälliger als ein etwas schwereres bzw sogar ein gravel rad.

[@chaowang2019]

don't worry dude. owning more bikes is a necessity since you're a bike content creator~ isn't it

[@klein-concept]

Thats what i tell myself. I dont buy them for me. I buy them for the content 😂😂

[@chaowang2019]

lol, indeed. keep updating.@@klein-concept

[@klein-concept]

@@chaowang2019 aye aye Captain 🤜🤛

[@DaveCM]

Please don't do anymore "one bike" videos. My wife might see them. LOL! Seriously though, that is one sweet bike.

[@klein-concept]

Hahahhahahahhahahahha. Very good point. Sorry for that 🫣

[@Strange_Brew]

That’s sad it’s outfitted with shitmano. Sram etap would have been a great ride. I’d strip the bike down and start over again….

[@klein-concept]

😂😂 now thats the spirit 🫶. What dont you like about Shitmano?

[@abedfo88]

its so classy

[@klein-concept]

It is 🤌

[@Pfeifenmarsmaes]

A good Video. I think you become a Bike Messie ;) But i can understand that.

[@klein-concept]

Haha. I m such a bike messy. You are so right 🫣

[@joannawitekk]

😍

[@klein-concept]

Glad you approve 🤜🤛

[@rndoldridge]

€2000 on a piece of art would also be enjoyable but would not need servicing and would appreciate and not depreciate. Perhaps it depends how much time you spend cycling and chilling at home with a piece of art you love in view.

[@klein-concept]

For me this is a piece of art that i love to look at and is getting me out of the house to get active 🫶

[@podeeeerdelmembrillo403]

700/36 much better for road

[@klein-concept]

Any specific ones you would recommend?

[@dcv9460]

get a titanium frame for a more peace of mind 💯😎

[@klein-concept]

It actually is on my list. Do you have any recommendations regarding manufacturers?

[@Msgr300]

Ti frame was not considered?

[@klein-concept]

It actually was at some point but the good ones are out of control expensive. Do you have any recommendation for one?

[@Msgr300]

@@klein-concept I really like your argument and not to put down carbon bikes, maybe it’s no just for me. Not going to race anyways. I currently have two bikes, a steel and a Ti with similar setups. I'm considering getting rid of one of them to replace it with a road-specific bike that can also handle some light gravel. I'm interested in the Chiru Kunlun, which I believe is a French brand.

[@klein-concept]

@@Msgr300 i didnt know about that brand. Thanks for the tip. Will give them a look. Maybe it will be time to sell at least one bike to make space for a titanium one.

[@Msgr300]

@@klein-concept if there’s a way of getting standert bike in our country, would also get one

[@klein-concept]

@@Msgr300 where are you from?

[@lazlo2511]

Sell them all and get a gravel bike….just do it. Road is dead brother and so is rim brake, unless you plan on having a museum of bikes as a momentum to how great bikes were once upon a time

[@klein-concept]

Hehe ... yea i dont know. I also like the simplicity of rim brakes. But that new Standert Triebwerk that i ordered will also be disc. 🫣