DO WHEEL WEIGHTS HELP CLIMBING INCLINE?

I install my new RC wheel weights on the Injora beedlock wheels and put them to the test.
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[@bl8221]

With all do respect, that’s a horrible test for anything but wheel spin .. flat steep slick wood surfaces are not that common on outdoor rock surfaces.. not to mention your tack board was changing degrees when you hit it hard .. “ hey how does my crawler do on 55degree ice” ? You would do better to just take it out to a local crawler park and run some lines and check if wheel weight helps.. a huge percentage of comp 2&3 guys run weight in there Crawlers .. it does help ..

[@arkansasrcnewbie]

Yeah, I'm one of those guys who is in class 2 running wheel weights🤣. This test was just a way to find out if in an all things being equal-ish situation, would wheel weights help. Nothing more Nothing less. This style of testing the theory was definitely not ideal, but people would be critical regardless of any method used. Thanks for the view and comment.👍 Hopefully, you will watch some more of our videos and give us some feedback.

[@docholiday9786]

Yeah he's got cauliflower ear I'm just going to agree with everything he says!!

[@arkansasrcnewbie]

🤣🤣💪💪 Hell yeah!!! Appreciate that brother lol.

[@ONFLOOD-RC]

Nice video mate!!!👍👍👍 I also studying counterweight, and I have the same problem…. Have you hard or soft tyre on it?

[@arkansasrcnewbie]

Thanks brother, you know the brass axle covers in my opinion have been the best! They are super affordable and usually fit perfect. The tires would be considered a medium lol, not too soft but not hard. Thanks for the comment brother.

[@GARYU-S44]

Lowering the center of gravity is very important, isn't it😁👌🤝

[@arkansasrcnewbie]

It absolutely is!! LOL Thank you for watching

[@БиЭмГрупп-ц6й]

Hello. Tell me, how did I clean the glasses on the wrangler's body?

[@arkansasrcnewbie]

Hey man, I used small amounts of paint thinner...

[@brianz367]

When you were driving into the ramp after that change, you made the angle steeper. Also, what really matters is the weight balance, 60% front, 40% back. I have weights on my truck but only on the front.

[@arkansasrcnewbie]

Thanks Brian, you I've been learning and comments like this really help. Thank You

[@Djkommode]

To each their own. If you have the power to move the weight.. why not. My stock scx10 iii kit… just needs metal wheels. I have a clip of mine doing a vertical climb box stock but zero preload on springs with the heavy body. Tune yours to your driving likes but you will never be finished.

[@arkansasrcnewbie]

Thanks for the input brother, I am learning it slowly. And as a matter of fact on the last crawler event I did not use them...Now I just need some new shocks to help settle down. Thanks for the comment man 👍

[@treyridenour3983]

Tighten you right rear shock that will help with the left front tire coming off that ground

[@arkansasrcnewbie]

👍 Yes Sir thank you

[@michaelchoate2810]

Those weights work a ton on a surface you get traction on. The board was too slick for this test

[@arkansasrcnewbie]

Agree, since then I have changed tires too lol. Thanks man

[@johnarcher9480]

After adding the weights, when you made several attempts at the climb, your ramp moved forward, increasing the angle slightly. (6:27) That said, you did drive right up it at 50 degree with the weights. Best to start with the truck on the board then try moving forward to measure max climb. They both did (at least) 50 degrees.. weighted did slightly more, and the tire NOT in the air seems to have more weight in it (tire deflection). Here, you really dont know the maximum for each option.

[@arkansasrcnewbie]

Appreciate the concern and constructive criticism. Def have got some learning to do

[@davidmoore2359]

My rig only weighs in at 5 pounds. I went ultra light. I climb 65 degrees

[@arkansasrcnewbie]

Wow! That's impressive, I wonder if it will help in the "keeping me grounded" areas. I have just got a new body that will be lighter and less top heavy, but do you think this will help overall or hinder??

[@davidmoore2359]

I believe part of what you are experiencing is torque twist. The rubber bands will help with that but I don’t get torque twist because of the portal axels have gear reduction.

[@arkansasrcnewbie]

That's a great point, I got that new bidy now and it looks like the twist is still there a little...But we will see! Also scored a deal on some portal axles!!! Thanks David

[@davidmoore2359]

@@arkansasrcnewbie that’s great! Can’t wait to see it at the next comp.

[@tobydyes]

Over gear the front axle

[@arkansasrcnewbie]

Done👍

[@tobydyes]

Playing by a digital angle finder

[@arkansasrcnewbie]

Man could not find one, but the non digital works great 👍

[@tobydyes]

Take the tire off the back

[@arkansasrcnewbie]

Done👍

[@RanjeetSingh-qt9yh]

Torque twist is the reason for wheel lift. Use transfer case to turn driveshaft opposite directions. Your spare is hitting floor and friction is lacking nothing to do with weights. Very dumb video. Can't believe he talks about competition. Hope is not a strategy. Sorry for being harsh but.

[@arkansasrcnewbie]

Maybe you didn't see the channel name or don't understand, but where we come from a newbie is someone that's new to something🤦. Thanks for watching, but then again it seems you might not have watched it throughout since we even showed that the spare was not to blame. Weights do play a part in traction, regardless if this method was an appropriate method to test or not. Have a better day, my friend.

[@nastycop]

Looks like your spare tire is rubbing when you start the incline

[@arkansasrcnewbie]

It was indeed....I actually just did away with it 👍

[@nastycop]

@@arkansasrcnewbie yea I saw it at the end. I've been debating if I want this to be my first crawler

[@dkmgm2011]

Wheel/axle weight on the front will help a little on vertical climb. On all four corners will help the side hill angle by lowering overall cg but not the best option IMO. You have to add a lot of weight to see any measurable gains. Weight is the enemy. Shed whatever you can if you want to be competitive. CG starts at the body. Then it's electronics, then it's suspension. All of those things should be optimized for your purpose to see real gains. All that said, 50 degrees is pretty good for that rig. Your comping a budget RTR. I'm not hatin, just sayin comp rigs are painstaking and purposefully built. You're doin pretty good.

[@arkansasrcnewbie]

Kip I appreciate the comment man, you got me thinking I should get rid of the weights now, considering I have a lower body. I think it will help with angled climbs? I also routed everything more centralized on the chassis hoping to keep the center of gravity less spread and more directly between the wheels. I'm not too sure but am learning, everybody has been a big help and just trying to trial and error it, plus come up with content. What do you think?

[@dkmgm2011]

@@arkansasrcnewbie I think you're doing great so far. I like your content and I'm seeing constant improvement in your skill level. I've been building crawlers for three years now and I have two masterpieces. One is ten pounds of 4 wheel steer portal axle goodness with a dig unit and giant 2.2 wheels and tires. The other is a 5 pound strait axle on comparable 2.2s. They are polar opposites and unbelievable capable, but they feel completely different. Ones no better than the other (if you have the right technique). Sometimes it takes weight to get one right. You have to figure that out. Every rig is different. Everything is a trade off.

[@johnrich9278]

I live in cabot Arkansas a d just got into rc crawlers. Glad I found your channel.

[@arkansasrcnewbie]

Well John, glad you found it too man! Thanks for sticking around and look forward to you watching more content. Gotta comp this weekend in Hot Springs at the ORV offroad park. Starts at 10, sat you should check it out man👍 first comp of the year.

[@BrokeAndBoosted]

Arkansas crew, Benton here

[@mitchellpeters1086]

I went with brass inners for my vanquish bead locks to give the wheel its self more weight. That with soft foams makes a more aired down simulation giving you a wider foot print across the whole tire. As for the test i eliminate the traction problem by using a metal shelf like the grated ones allowing me to truly test the max angle as i know the tires will climb. If you want to throw traction back into the equasion its as simple as throwing a bord or something the size of the shelf on top. Love the videos dude.👍

[@arkansasrcnewbie]

Mell man I've seen the name and love the comments. Thanks very much. You know I did just got some brass portal covers for my axles. Cannot wait to test em out. Later brother 👍

[@jddd8385]

Weren’t you a MMA fighter

[@arkansasrcnewbie]

Yes sir, fought professionally and as an amateur. I currently train and teach/coach no gi.

[@jddd8385]

@@arkansasrcnewbie I figured I’ve seen you somewheres lol

[@slothsquatch5023]

Very scientific testing.

[@arkansasrcnewbie]

Only thing I do hear!!

[@shaynejenkins446]

You can buy every aftermarket performance part for that rig and it will still never drive up that incline.

[@arkansasrcnewbie]

🤣🤣🤣 Prob right man, you know with the upgrades I've got on it now I would beg to differ 👍