Do Women Like The DODGE VIPER? ("Women React To Cars" Ep. 9)

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Retro Cars Forever

Retro Cars Forever

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@HelloRoad
@HelloRoad 3 жыл бұрын
Great episode!! "Don't burn your dumb ankles!" 😆😆😆
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. This was really fun to edit together...Was never at a loss for great soundbites like that one!
@riolinda
@riolinda 3 жыл бұрын
6:26 "Babe it says right there, don't burn your dumb ankles!" hahaha Dana!
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
Dana's "dude voice" always slays me.
@SaleProofCarReviews
@SaleProofCarReviews 3 жыл бұрын
I drove one of these in a parking lot once. Two observations, one, most exhilarating and scary 5 seconds of my life, and two, definitely not a Miata!
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
I need to bug the driver of this car for a thorough test drive. They just seem like a ball! (And, I imagine, VERY different from a friendly little Miata)
@SaleProofCarReviews
@SaleProofCarReviews 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever it’s a very tight interior, a very sensitive clutch and gas pedal, and you feel like the car will peel out of control with any wrong motion
@HiRevzMedia
@HiRevzMedia 2 жыл бұрын
The Viper’s best safety feature is FEAR OF DYING!
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 2 жыл бұрын
😂 accurate.
@hullinger
@hullinger 3 жыл бұрын
The Viper started strong at the beginning of the video with lots of enthusiasm but man, by the end, the tide really turned.
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
It sure did. The curb appeal of the car is undeniable, especially as most of the women found it "Cute" at first...But their opinions seemed to mostly change when they realized the raw, uncivilized ferocity underneath!
@tylerlondon5052
@tylerlondon5052 3 жыл бұрын
The exhaust comes out the side to reduce length which increases exhaust flow.
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
True, but from my research that wasnt the main motivation for the side pipes. Which were included more as a nod to the past/increase in “attitude”.
@eugenendungu4062
@eugenendungu4062 3 жыл бұрын
I was loving their reactions so much😂😂😂😂😂😂 the 90s were truly something different😅😅😅
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
Heh, me too! Seems weird because I can remember the 90s clear as day but a COMPLETELY different time.
@Athena007
@Athena007 3 жыл бұрын
3:23 - Like men looking at throw pillows... Yep... there, clean, good job. HAHA! I can't get over how beautifully salty Dana is in the episode.
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
Hahah! Throw pillows...They're there, and they're clean, good for you....
@dana_what
@dana_what 3 жыл бұрын
This is my all-time saltiest. I also feel like this one was closer to the end, so by the time I was rating/dragging this car, I was pretty loopy and probably needed a snack.
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
Dana, you sound like a Snickers commercial!
@dana_what
@dana_what 3 жыл бұрын
Retro Cars Forever “Dragging the cars of men you don’t know and making snap judgements about their mental health? Grab a Snickers!”
@ronniepoorterman4358
@ronniepoorterman4358 3 жыл бұрын
Dana could save us. There's hope.
@thaddacusmaximus6706
@thaddacusmaximus6706 3 жыл бұрын
“There is traffic. There are stop lights.” Not out where I live. You can drive for miles on roads out here, and the only stop signs are at the end of the road and on the sides for cross traffic. 65 mph speed limit. Curvy. Perfect for driving
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds like heaven. All right, I’m moving!
@HoudiniWild
@HoudiniWild 3 жыл бұрын
That was a great one. Strong reactions!
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Strong reactions to a strong car.
@corvettemode1556
@corvettemode1556 3 жыл бұрын
This video is a CERTIFIED BANGER!!!
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
Haha thanks!
@samspace81
@samspace81 3 жыл бұрын
Would like to see reactions after a ride in the car or a drive! They don't get it sorry lol Fun video, my favorite of this series
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, my fave too! In a perfect world all 10 cars woulda been lined up in a row and all 10 women could've sat/ridden in them, but logistically it would've been a nightmare to achieve that without the women actually seeing the men. Especially during quarantine!
@samspace81
@samspace81 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever you did a great job. The 12 year old boy in me is screaming its a Viper!! I had a poster of it and the V10 Ram on my wall in 1992 or 3
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
Both those cars were incredible to see. I recently saw both at a car show with identical blue and white paint jobs and my inner child screamed with delight!
@samspace81
@samspace81 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever haha Walker Texas Ranger was hot at the time too, we all wanted a new Ram !
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
That’s right, he drove a pretty cool one if I recall (with light bars and such)
@bettyroberts6543
@bettyroberts6543 3 жыл бұрын
Most of the women seem conflicted about their feelings for this cute yet dangerous vehicle. I'm also having conflicting feelings! Bri sums it up well at 12:49! What do we do with these feelings!!?
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
It was so funny filming/editing this and seeing each woman's "journey" as they slowly realized more and more about the car!
@davidwilliams9302
@davidwilliams9302 3 жыл бұрын
"cute" made me cringe. I mean it. I'm more offended with "cute" than "Miata"
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
I was shocked at how many women thought this car was cute! But it’s round, kinda small, so I can see it. At least if you don’t know about the ferocity lurking within.
@vr4787
@vr4787 3 жыл бұрын
Been waiting awhile for this! Can’t wait for the Ford Ranger next!
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoy! Last episode is a long time coming, but worth it. Crazy to think how long this series has been a part of my life, and that it will soon be over!
@Stinger430
@Stinger430 3 жыл бұрын
"That's a super aggressive handbrake lever" hahahaha. "Don't burn your dumb ankles" for the win though...lol.
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
So many good quotes in this LOL
@Stinger430
@Stinger430 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever good thing you didn't show them A Superbird! ha ha
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
@@Stinger430 I think they would've LOVED the Superbird actually.
@ViperSRTnACR
@ViperSRTnACR 2 жыл бұрын
Viper guy here, pretty interesting episode. So a '94 model Viper is considered a Gen1 and is the most basic of all the models. Future generation Vipers received better interiors with airbags and antilock brakes. The appeal of the first-generation fiber is the rawness of the car which is what it was meant to be in the first place. That said, I think the women would have responded better to a second or third generation Viper that had a little bit more sophistication to them (and more power).
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 2 жыл бұрын
In retrospect, I think you're right that later Vipers would've done better. Going into this social experiment I wasnt sure what the women would or wouldn't respond to, so I picked some more extreme examples (like this early Viper) to learn from. And there was a lot we learned!
@fjordfjesta
@fjordfjesta 3 жыл бұрын
Viper RT/10, for the driver with discerning tastes and a damn good life insurance policy.
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
Haha well put!
@fjordfjesta
@fjordfjesta 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever In the same vein of "dangerous-yet-exhilarating", I would have loved to see an 80s or early 90s Porsche 911 (especially a turbo or something with a whale-tail/duckbill) in the mix here. The mix of uniquely approachable styling and practicality would have been really interesting. Nonetheless, a great cross-section of the "automotive-human condition" in this group! Fingers crossed to see the tables turned in a future series.
@godoff.5304
@godoff.5304 3 жыл бұрын
You should use hashtags for the title and info of the video, which will bring way more viewers. Such as #dodgeviper #womenisercars etc. some interesting and/or attention bringer key words.
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
Great suggestion, that’s actually something I’ve been looking into as a best practice for my videos.
@thejasonlundgren
@thejasonlundgren 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not a fan of cars per say, but the Viper still looks awesome after three decades. Plus seeing Valerie Perez in any type of KZbin video is a true pleasure especially during the pandemic times.
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed on all points! And the Viper still stops traffic (I’ve seen it in person)
@Athena007
@Athena007 3 жыл бұрын
5:30 - haha! It's true... a car IS our safe space!
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
This was really funny to hear...a bit of truth to how most "normal" people think about their cars. So many car enthusiasts happily motor around in what they know full well are "death traps"...To them a car is a way to really let loose and live on the edge. A way to get OUT of their "safe space!"
@Athena007
@Athena007 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever For sure. I love all sorts of cars, but if I'm gonna have one as my DD... I like feeling safe in my car... it's my TANK! Even if it's cute.
@dominiquetits8605
@dominiquetits8605 3 жыл бұрын
9:48 - 10:01 This one is a gem!
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
Absolute gem!
@TheRobGoodman
@TheRobGoodman 3 жыл бұрын
The episode lived up the hype... I will admit it. I could do without that last bit.. Viper guys are notoriously relationship-focused and monogamous. Dana was slaying. But the best soundbite had to be Jenny who started out trashing two guys she knows and then says they are the sweetest guys in the world. Talk about a "journey".
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. I thought about cutting the "one night stand" bit out, but figured Viper fans could use a little salve for the wound of the "official" rating. And yes, Dana, slayer as always!
@topenddean
@topenddean 2 жыл бұрын
LOL, a MoPar at the top of the list and a Mopar at the bottom of the list...this explains why women are from Venus and men are from Mars. If car guys were interviewed on the same vehicles the list would be completely opposite of this.
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 2 жыл бұрын
That's part of why I was interested in this experiment...Most car enthusiasts tend to be men, and they THINK they know what women find attractive...But what do women ACTUALLY think?
@godoff.5304
@godoff.5304 3 жыл бұрын
Next I would love to see some BWM M6 V10, Mercedes C63 AMG (2010 and before) and CL63 AMG, Honda S2000, Audi R8 and RS5 (First versions), Audi RS6 or RS4 Avant (Wagon, any available model), Porsche Boxter, BMW Z4 (Coupe or convertible), Mitsubishi Evo 8 and Mercedes E63 AMG S Wagon may be. :)
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of their reactions to those kind of cars are covered in the BMW m5 episode, if you haven’t seen it already- kzbin.info/www/bejne/d37RhqiObtSWbbM Tho I wish I would’ve been able to include a true wagon in this mix!
@michaelgehlhausen
@michaelgehlhausen 3 жыл бұрын
Yerr, the c4 vette is still doing fairly well. Happy about that.
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
Even though I'm not single, still nice to see...I pull for C4s in ANY contest!
@aaronvector4750
@aaronvector4750 4 ай бұрын
"I'm sorry I called the viper a miata" what blondie doesn't know is that calling a viper a miata is an inside joke among car enthusiasts 😂
@automotiveaffairsshorts
@automotiveaffairsshorts 3 жыл бұрын
Another awesome episode... surprised how unloved the Viper is with the ladies!
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I wish it would've done better as this was THE CAR when I was a kid. But yeah, guess it makes sense that they wouldnt be thrilled about a stupid fast car with no safety features, side windows, AC, with skin-scalding side pipes! Ive found that a lot of the stuff that car enthusiasts dig is the OPPOSITE of what non-car enthusiasts like.
@shaned1926
@shaned1926 3 жыл бұрын
WOW. Now That was a interesting watch. I love yet hate the viper. Hate the nose, too rounded, but love it from there back. Love side pipes (cobra), but not the type on the viper. Love the v10, but the cockpit is WAY to tight for me. Tried to test drive one once, Sat in it and just said nope! Too tight for me to drive comfotably. Personally not worried about the safety, as it is what it is. Like a cobra, its about the car, the machine.
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
Its a polarizing car that's not for everyone! That's kinda why I personally love it.
@shaned1926
@shaned1926 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever love /hate relationships are the spice in life. Lol
@koihoshi
@koihoshi 6 ай бұрын
Lol i came and watched this after Brad posted the series in a group. I saw this and had to watch it. My partner loves my Corvette, she hates my Viper. In her words, "This car was invented by dudes, for dudes." She thought the ranking videos were great.
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 6 ай бұрын
Ha, that's great! And I think she's right about who this car was made by, and for, with little thought for anyone else! I did not think it would do well, but shocked at how poorly it did in the ranking.
@lovecars4803
@lovecars4803 3 жыл бұрын
that was funny as hell
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
I sure cracked up making it!
@truck-kun5924
@truck-kun5924 3 жыл бұрын
Man ı really love vipers too. This Little leg burning V10 on wheels dead angel is really cool :D But Man who drives a gen1 viper on road. Like it's almost have 0 protection features. You can open this things hood without anything! But seriously this is my dream car. (Of course ı prefer one with some protection features but still)
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
Well this owner drives his and enjoys it! He's a brave dude tho. I think one of the women said it best, the idea that you get that extra show of adrenaline knowing there's not much in the way of safety to catch you if things go awry!
@truck-kun5924
@truck-kun5924 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever I know. When ı say safety features ı mean the car. Like anti steal features. Correct me of ı wrong but if ı remember right gen1 viper's almost have any anti stealing features. Like you got no roof and your windows don't have a lock. Or hood don't have a lock too. Oh and ı also don't wanna fry my legs too :D
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
@@truck-kun5924 Yes, you're correct on all accounts!
@truck-kun5924
@truck-kun5924 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever yes it takes courage to drive that car.
@davidwilliams9302
@davidwilliams9302 3 жыл бұрын
To answer the one women, yes, people have "grill marks" on their calves.
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, some call them “snake bites”! Covered in our Retro Design video (which featured this very Viper, and the owner who had a scar now!) kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZTdlGyXhsengbs
@moonbeamskies3346
@moonbeamskies3346 3 жыл бұрын
I think the ladies made excellent points.
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
I agree! They’re pretty dang sharp if you ask me.
@roberthuston5508
@roberthuston5508 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think most car guys would waste their time on a second date with any of these girls . Lol
@charlieryan1736
@charlieryan1736 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video… It proved my point that the only people that love Dodge Vipers are other guys and kids 😅
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
Haha! You’re welcome.
@Boatfisherz1
@Boatfisherz1 3 жыл бұрын
That car has the same rules as my tree house... no girls allowed.
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
That’s kinda hilarious.
@jonhill9564
@jonhill9564 2 жыл бұрын
😆 so good!
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite episode was this one. Pure hilarity and cold hard truth!
@kebabaluba
@kebabaluba 3 жыл бұрын
RT/10s came with airbags, AC and windows later on, so it`s a practical car after all :)
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
It's true, later Vipers all seemed to "fix" many of the rough edges that the earlier cars had, and would've likely done a lot better with these women. But there's something extra special and pure about these very early Vipers...Pure hot rods, no excuses!
@kebabaluba
@kebabaluba 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever I feel like the ladies would not be so harsh on the later RT/10 with all those newer features, like they did on this one :)
@alexpettit3265
@alexpettit3265 3 жыл бұрын
The Viper was by far my Wife's favorite.
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
I'm curious, was she aware of all the "negatives?" (No AC, skin scalding side pipes, no side glass, no safety features, etc)?
@alexpettit3265
@alexpettit3265 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever She's definitely aware, but she admitted that even though it's the car she loves the most, she wouldn't be able to live with daily driving it, and she definitely prefers the newer gens. Her second pick was the Wrangler and 3rd was the BMW, so if she had to pick a daily she said it would be one of those. Great video btw!
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, and fun to hear what others think! My wife has her own “rankings” of these cars herself.
@alexpettit3265
@alexpettit3265 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever What's her top pick?
@ericrood4100
@ericrood4100 2 ай бұрын
I have an exact twin of that viper, but it's always men noticing it. Women pay it no mind, aside from the occasional elderly lady calling it adorable.
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 2 ай бұрын
“Adorable!” I was amazed at how a few of these women thought the Viper was adorable as well.
@ericrood4100
@ericrood4100 2 ай бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever Yeah, I think it's the curves, and the "handsome lil' snakey" on the badge.
@MrShaun03161979
@MrShaun03161979 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't there a sci-fi action TV series of the same name as the car?
@MrShaun03161979
@MrShaun03161979 3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2WrnoZtrrCCbJI
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
You got it! It was like a 90s Knight Rider, sponsored by Chrysler. In fact I asked the women if they happened to remember it...none did. But I sure enjoyed it at the time!
@MrShaun03161979
@MrShaun03161979 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever I wish the series was on DVD.
@MrShaun03161979
@MrShaun03161979 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever I have a 1:15 Scale diecast cars of this version٫ and the blue and white striped sports car version.
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure you can at least find online rips of those episodes.
@nathewtang33
@nathewtang33 3 жыл бұрын
I think the dodge viper is like the car equivalent of Chad 😂😂😂😂
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@maczepa
@maczepa 2 жыл бұрын
Wonder if the VIPER owner was a fan of the 90's TV series?
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 2 жыл бұрын
I actually asked him…he was too young for it!
@alexl9334
@alexl9334 3 жыл бұрын
The girl with the red hair is wife material. The girl with the short hair is way cute but i feel like she'd save me from a lot of dumb decisions I'd make. The girl with the glasses sounds like she'd be fun to cruise with and talk. The girl with the purplish hair is cool but would probably not like the way i drive. The blonde girl is cool maybe a little too cool for me. The girl with the black hair is also wife material. 🤔 now for the truck episode for my final thoughts
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
They do have names y'know! LOL
@alexl9334
@alexl9334 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever haha 😄 i need to re watch the whole series to remember them
@charlieryan1736
@charlieryan1736 3 жыл бұрын
This video proved my point that the only people that like the Viper are other guys and kids 😅
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
Ha! And you know what, maybe that's totally okay.
@viperrottweiler5311
@viperrottweiler5311 4 ай бұрын
Ive owned 2 Vipers and 3 Vettes. Chicks dig Vettes, but Vipers are instant panty droppers 😅
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 4 ай бұрын
Not with these women apparently 😅
@flavioc5389
@flavioc5389 2 жыл бұрын
Great series.
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
@michaeljordan6008
@michaeljordan6008 3 жыл бұрын
All of these ladies are quite bright, but you can’t be rational or even thoughtful when discussing the Viper. It’s too visceral. I’d like to see each of them experience it. As an aside, please have the ladies in more videos. Love their perspectives.
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! And agreed, in a perfect world, they’d all get rides in each car back to back. But that was a logistical nightmare, especially if they weren’t supposed to see the guys, and especially during quarantine when this series was filmed!
@thejudge__2917
@thejudge__2917 3 жыл бұрын
You should do one so it is switched
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
You mean men react to womens cars?
@thejudge__2917
@thejudge__2917 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever ya
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
​@@thejudge__2917 I've gotten that suggestion quite a lot. So we'll see!
@dana_what
@dana_what 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever Y'know, if you ever wanna do an epilogue, I would let the car guys roast my dumb little car.
@alanscott8067
@alanscott8067 5 ай бұрын
Ok so a bike is safer than a viper💩this car is not about saving your life it’s about enjoying life. My 95 viper is a sweetheart with a touch of badass and that’s why I love her!
@BC_I_LETU
@BC_I_LETU Жыл бұрын
Funny. Now do with Gen V viper and see what they think.
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever Жыл бұрын
I’m sure later vipers would’ve done a lot better. But I was very curious to see how the women would react to the more extreme/raw original.
@buffnerd82
@buffnerd82 9 ай бұрын
well...u can have ac in this viper lol and a hard top. This episode does show that a lot of women will never get in an old muscle car lol
@topenddean
@topenddean 2 жыл бұрын
Jenny for the Win...
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 2 жыл бұрын
Jenny was AMAZING to have on this series!
@SLVRFOX88
@SLVRFOX88 2 жыл бұрын
So buy a 1996+ GTS is what you telling guys
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 2 жыл бұрын
Great suggestion! Probably would've done a lot better (and similar to how the Corvette Grand Sport fared).
@terrancecook3357
@terrancecook3357 3 жыл бұрын
Safety features? Don't you mean driving nannies.
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
Guess that depends on your perspective!
@godoff.5304
@godoff.5304 3 жыл бұрын
I just love the exterior and interior proportions and design. This is such a great example to a great designed car that fcked up during the building process. Terrible build quality etc. I can imagine what this specific car could become if it built by Audi or Porsche. Same exact exterior and interior design but just with some Audi, Poersch quality in the body, tranny, motor, interior quality, body panels etc.
@thejudge__2917
@thejudge__2917 3 жыл бұрын
Hi
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 3 жыл бұрын
HIIII
@Motleymick
@Motleymick 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure about these chicks. If you don't like the Viper then I don't like you. lol
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