Do you ask for a black or white pilot in a plane? - Chris Pappas on race

“When you board a plane, you trust the pilot's skill, not their gender or race. Similarly, when your house floods, you need a plumber, regardless of race. SA faces floods of challenges, needing solutions, not divisions. Let's elect leaders with sufficient expertise to fix the serious challenges, not just talk.” - Chris Pappas
📺 Watch as DA Mayor of uMngeni, Chris Pappas, highlights the need for solutions over divisions at the Daily Maverick Gathering.

[@gstar3569]

It’s time for the DA people!

[@truth-Hurts375]

Dream on !!!!

[@tonitappous2422]

​@@truth-Hurts375 You are holding your own future and the future of SA back, as you can't see the DA for what it really is, which is a modern, racially diverse, honest and very capable political party that represents the interests of the rainbow nation better than any other political party in SA and has a 15 year track record of Clean Audits and good governance to prove it!!

[@maryjooste6161]

Foresure South Africans we need people who cld build the country

[@rosalielockets9668]

​@@truth-Hurts375That's the reason you'll always live in squalor...no hope for you !!!!!

[@Belugacrip]

@@tonitappous2422DA is racist, supports genocide and represents the interest of the minority. DA is finished

[@fabianpetersen2452]

He sounds more knowledgable than the whole ANC caucus 😮

[@Ilikepie18855]

He sounds more knowledgeable than the entire African continent…..

[@deborahfaltian4667]

That's intelligence, not a matter of black or white. When will these other parties learn. Wish there were only 2 parties to select from.

[@Ginger4789]

If the pilot is ANC DON’T FLY 😂😂😂

[@nazikay1340]

😂😂😂😂

[@NtokozoPearlKhaula-et3vi]

My President Christ Pappas 🙏🇿🇦.

[@tweet4132]

Please save SA!!!

[@gertsteenkamp6970]

Wow very good 👍 👏 👌 DA. Viva DA.💙💙💙💙.

[@SteveWarlee]

Jy praat kak!

[@gertsteenkamp6970]

@@SteveWarlee sies jou hart is baie lelik. Moet respek wees.

[@SteveWarlee]

@@gertsteenkamp6970 Gaan kak in die bossies

[@gertsteenkamp6970]

@@SteveWarlee jy gaan kak jou hart is die duiwel.

[@truth-Hurts375]

​@@gertsteenkamp6970Jou moffie in die video sal dit Bollie noem !!!!😂😂Wit Bollie !!!

[@aimhigh3701]

Finally some sanity... This country has wasted so much time, energy and resources obsessing over identity politics. Hire the best man for the job, fix things, make things work better. We will all win in the end if we do this.

[@expose_massive_banking_crime]

the corrupt cadres won't win if we do this...just sayin

[@tonitappous2422]

Having watched Mac G's Podcast with John Steenhuisen on KZbin, and the inspirational Arte tv Documentary about Mayor Chris Pappas of uMngeni Municipality ( also on KZbin), the DA is by far the most progressive, the most compassionate and the most experienced choice to take SA and the Multi Party Charter forward in 2024!!

[@LollyClarke]

Viva Multiparty

[@maryjooste6161]

I hv hope in the multiparty I hv so much hope

[@lindylambis4828]

Excellent

[@pramendhbridgebunsee9242]

We need young dynamic and forward thinking leaders like Chris Papas to take SA forward

[@sumakata7243]

Bless the people of South 🤍💙

[@cathyabrahamse1929]

His young energetic, his not racist,his for the people. Give him a chance

[@theuns-robertpretorius8331]

Viva DA. The only political party that focuses on making it possible for the economy to work like clockwork and provide a decent infrastructure to everyone to grow South Africa

[@404Learning]

Doing a Terrible job in Tshwane though

[@yourfriendlyneighbourhoods8202]

@@404Learningthat’s true, but imagine if they had control over provincial funds or even national funds. There’s only so much you can do as a city government when the province is still ANC ran

[@theuns-robertpretorius8331]

@@404Learning well, they can't do much if they are constantly being sabotaged by EFF and ANC members. Therefore I vote DA to help take away power from ANC and EFF

[@404Learning]

@@yourfriendlyneighbourhoods8202 that’s no excuse in doing so poorly

[@AapVanDieKaap]

​@@404LearningListen buddy, all the budgets and audits are public anyone can read them. You can see everything the ANC runs is bankrupt and dysfunctional and with the DA it's not. It's not a debate. Do I like the DA? Not really, they are politicians. But it's a huge step up from retards and thieves.

[@pieterjordaan73]

Multi Party Charter to rescue and save South Africa and its citizens

[@makimomoo]

I am voting for this man. He has integrity. We need to be saved. And I don’t care what colour of his skin his. The best man for the job. That’s how we need to operate. I am sick of BBEE blah blah blah.

[@louisevanderlinde8590]

Unfortunately cadre deployment has done a lot of damage. Putting people in positions, because of who they know instead of what they can do, has eliminated trust in South Africa.

[@expose_massive_banking_crime]

eliminated competency too

[@maseratifittipaldi]

Empowerment is NOT just giving people money, government contracts and things. Real empowerment is education and training.

[@michaelmkhize4650]

It's not about black or white but right or wrong!!

[@SteveWarlee]

😂 laughable. A white does wrong, feels remorse and shame and guilt. A black , none of it.

[@nicksmit489]

Amen brother!

[@Ilikepie18855]

Mandela party said blacks cannot be wrong. Which is why they must go

[@expose_massive_banking_crime]

A party of psychopathic narcissists@@Ilikepie18855

[@christobelthipe8627]

​@@Ilikepie18855 ridiculous statement

[@deondejager6165]

What about the White business owner that is giving work to people (not Black, White, Coloured. . . . . .) people, CITIZENS of the country that pay tax?

[@Ilikepie18855]

What about the white businesses? There’s also black, Indian, chinese, colored businesses. Yes, white businesses are still the backbone of this country, are we doing a WEE like BEE ? We need get rid of BEE and now we start a WEE? lol….. get rid of BEE

[@raymondcandiotes4639]

So eloquently well put. BEE is enriching few black billionaires and impoverishing working class people. BEE = "Black Enrichment Entity"

[@witsend008]

Regarding the pilots: Hell I do worry in South Africa ! I simply believe in mathematical probabilities .

[@colleengreenthompson6095]

need to stand together as one to make south Africa better with competent people taking u forward to make it beautiful place to live again

[@rosainecalmeyer4428]

You’re so right. Forced racial quotas don’t work. Give the people in South Africa the education they need, create jobs and South Africa will work without BEE.

[@madeleinedonaldson4422]

Time all this political claptrap ends We are all South Africans .In order to get a job, you must qualify.Let the best person for the job, get the job.Thats what makes the wheels turn smoothly

[@catherinethemba]

Got my vote.

[@garethrunnalls1788]

Can we just put Chris in charge of everything? KTHXBAI

[@zeldaeichler2609]

100 % agree. Start with taking race off our ID documents. We need to become a country of people not race.

[@BeverleyGail-b5p]

Such a brilliant young man.

[@JonathanMacleod-s8k]

I want the best pilot

[@andretait2817]

What about just economic empowerment? I imagine the population of KZN is probably 90 percent black as it is. Do we really need Black economic empowerment? Empower everyone economically and 90 percent of the benificiarys should automitically be black. Anything else is just racist

[@lebraa9233]

People hád spoken on Media platform with heartbreaking óf black Inpowerment which they feeling everything has been colapse since 30 years ago sadly unsafe to survive & Jobless frustrating many people if the nation smart is they should Vote out ANC and also keep away EFF also radicale destroying economie in the Country

[@maseratifittipaldi]

Exactly, Andre. But facts and logic don't draw votes as much as emotions. And how will politicians survive if they cannot divide us and put us into different boxes?

[@razianair5250]

Yes Da all the way

[@RobertEarlMylroie]

Let's go DA, let's go!!

[@goodbarbenie5477]

If U can do the job, just go for. But this is sadly lacking in South Africa today...As in the olde days when everything still made sense. What stood out on your C.V was Knowledge, Experience and your Expertise. Nows here's the 😞 Bummer. "Race" Gender and Stupidity have all been prioritised over logic of olde... Unfortunately it is foolish to think anything is gonna change.😢😮😢.

[@seamus9750]

Would love to see a debate between Chris and juju .

[@jennywood7426]

The DA has my vote.Really fed up with greedy incompetent cadres destroying South Africa’s infrastructure.

[@sandybezuidenhout]

💯 % it's time to place South Africa first. Not self interest.

[@Ilikepie18855]

That’s not the Mandela party way of things. Self interest only, it’s called africanacity

[@yourfriendlyneighbourhoods8202]

@@Ilikepie18855stop referring to it as Mandela party. Mandela would be ashamed at what the ANC has become

[@Ilikepie18855]

@@yourfriendlyneighbourhoods8202 he was ashamed, and he was warned, and he didn’t believe this would happen. Mandela gets all the credit on positive things in South Africa, he said he will forever be with anc no matter what. He must take the credit for the downfall of this country done by his party. We should call this, Mandela land, land of crime and death.

[@lieslhenning2275]

Eloquently put as always Chris! Keep up the great work, what you are doing and the example you are setting. 💙❎💙

[@goforgold7082]

A friend who was a Pilot said recently that its inevitable that we will have an airline disaster in SA as the standards has gone down a lot

[@JohanSwartz]

Thanks for the video you are absolutely right.

[@wdmaquaman888]

Very well spoken,!!@excellent😊

[@lastmanstanding9389]

Pappas for DA Leader.

[@goodbarbenie5477]

Not growing the economy is when is Politicians think, they can spend the people's money better than the people can do themselves. So the more the government taxes people the less the private sector and industries have to invest in creating jobs. The private sector is the ultimate creators of wealth in a country. The ANC has to restrain itself from interfering and have clear set boundaries as government should keep it's nose out of running business and the private sector... But how can they.? The food in the feeding trough is sooo delicious, they cannot offer up any restraint in this regard, for 30years now they've eaten alone and have brought nothing to the table for us South Africans as we"ve been lacking all along in every sphere of our lives...😮😢😢.

[@sumakata7243]

Congratulations openheimer Chris

[@marshalldamons2663]

Unfortunately most people just talk about colour and fir thst reason very little will change in SA...no matter black people will mostly vote for the black parties regardless of how rubbish they are

[@andreskorge1828]

Accountability, open audits, transparency and honest communication is necessary from government. Please.

[@sumakata7243]

DA 🤍💙 Indian 🇮🇳 Durban

[@adeleb3098]

Empowerment - Synonyms = enabling. equipping. Don't see much of that happening in BBEEE

[@christobosman5710]

Sorry to say , I worry who the pilot is , the same with a doctor I want to know what year that doctor went to university , if it is before 95 i will except him or her , if I here a black pilot or co pilot is flying the plane I won't fly with him or her , it's my safety , if you want to call that racism then be it , it's my choice and my choice alone and stuff those who disagree with that .

[@gabriellewhalley1328]

David Bullard the journalist got axed for knowing this decades ago.

[@Kareefontein]

We had a road graded in our rural town and like in so many areas in business was not awarded the tender or even the chances. The company that got the job took double the time, cost double the price and did not complete the project. They did not pay their sub contractors and now they are gone. We have extremely reliable people in our area that could’ve done a proper job, employed lots of locals and of course benefited the community, worked well with government money and be sustainable for future projects. Of course we didn’t get the job because the owner is white.

[@rosainecalmeyer4428]

Very clever analogy

[@tshepisoramushu5450]

The analogy takes the situation out of historical context. He doesn’t mention that for a black person 30 years ago, having a white pilot meant never getting a window seat in the plane and It meant never sitting in first class. If that’s what I knew as the consequence of having a white pilot, I’d go for black every time.

[@rosainecalmeyer4428]

@@tshepisoramushu5450 well, he’s talking about now and the future, isn’t he? What is the point of mentioning what happened or did not happen 30 years ago?

[@CeciliaAdrio-ek5iq]

If you don't have the Technical Know How ..Please Don't employ people without the skill it makes No Sense!!!

[@jksinorbit]

DA missed a beat here because as much as I like Steenhuisen I honestly think IF you have a white guy as leader of the party he really NEEDS to be able to talk either Xhosa or Zulu

[@debbiegademan4032]

If you have a mayor who can get potholes fixed and streetlights working, you don’t care what language he speaks.

[@alexharkonen01234]

Oh ferial haffagee after 30 Years of BEE thinks its a mistake to stop the anc nepotism - what little respect I had for her is really gone at this point

[@llandman9791]

Was just as surprised.

[@originallevite7469]

It’s been 30 years 😳 When r we going to have those difficult talks…and when r we going to talk about Coloured economical empowerment?

[@Ilikepie18855]

And white economic empowerment, and chinese economic empowerment. Only the weak needs empowerment, like disabled or mentally ill people.

[@bridges5659]

I would want a White or Indian pilot or I'll fly the plane myself.

[@patrickfranke3819]

Would you class that as a nation building comment or a comment that just adds to racial division and benefits ......nobody?

[@johnarch6876]

@@patrickfranke3819 Get real man!

[@PietM749]

Nation building dreams is only for those fast asleep to wake up some time with a nightmare

[@miemsie123]

You can be a President

[@corpchemchemicals]

Blue blood all the way!

[@sumakata7243]

Past , present and future

[@lydiapotgieter7867]

I want a competent Pilot and staff on the plane I travel. Thanks.

[@violainches2348]

As long they capable to do his or her position without any French benefits and corruption! We really don't mind !

[@jswift4163]

People must be encouraged to empower themselves; to provide ways to undeserved success is to corrupt them.

[@TruthbBeTold]

Bring the people back who built this country in the first place

[@sgu00dir]

Very eloquent, and to be fair this is only one clip - maybe the DA or this guys solution is written somewhere - but he is not talking about his solution. Lets face it critisicing the ANC is not hard, they have clearly failed and so poitning out that BEE hasnt actually worked isnt enough. He is saying the DA still believes in the concept of BEE (not the ANC policy) then surely we must hear - what is the DA policy then?

[@fredperry523]

I prefer to fly on an airline that does not recruit using AA & Bee criteria like Saa. Therefore I will always fly other airlines that recruit on merit.

[@gerryk101]

When you have to drop your level of processing and ways of thinking trying to explain how things work so that the majority can understand .

[@SteveWarlee]

Taking a bush person with little thought process of cultural ethnic growth and generation view point and placing that behind a wheel, a flap or eileron and saying it has training like a parrot, does not improve Ur chances of survival. They crack.

[@barbararobertson3720]

What a disgusting comment

[@11941leechie]

Pilots is either competent or not.

[@imnotanalien7839]

😂😂😂😂😂😂❤. You better ask! ✈️

[@seamuskelly4169]

wealth tax will level the playing field and distribute wealth

[@sumakata7243]

Only god can save Africa not us

[@Ilikepie18855]

God ain’t saving anyone buddy, you got to save yourself. No one will help you, no one you can blame for you own problems. Time to wake up and not rely on others

[@daniellintern3227]

I'd prefer an "unjabbed" pilot for their better health and higher IQ.

[@kingmufasa8929]

I ask for a pilot that can fly😂

[@dadlymenzi4993]

The title of this conversation is annoying and deceptive just like the DA. It is no different from a white person saying "I prefer to take my coffee black" . What is the point about the pilot here? We can't deny that due to the effects of BEE in SA there has been a black elite than any other time in SA history. It seems that the DA is forgetting where we come from and where the majority of black people still are today. Remember BEE was espoused by Thabo Mbeki, seeking to reconnect the ANC to its roots enthusiastically embraced the idea of 'black economic empowerment' BEE, idea was borrowed from Malaysia's indigenisation program and was designed to transfer control of the economy from white SA to blacks ones. By 2006 black ownership hovered around 8%. Don't blame the ANC here. Blame the private sector that the very vocal DA is a major player. The ANC lack of initiative in this area created space for private sector to appropriate the concept for its own ends. Even Moeletsi Mbeki the chief critic of BEE has written that BEE during the negotiations process as a way of avoiding the option of nationalization, became a sop to the new political elite , a voluntary wealth redistribution resulting in the emergency of a new class of unproductive rich black politicians and ex politicians who have become key political allies of the economic oligarchy in preserving the status quo. The DA can see that there is no longer a threat of nationalization, hence the removal of BEE. Since when have the DA ever cared for the interests of the black community?

[@maseratifittipaldi]

Our government should not consist of political party members. They should be experts in their fields, elected by their respective fraternities. Our populist political party system must be scrapped.

[@daniellouw1]

You you really think there is still a place for BEE in any form? Do you really think that there should still be conversations about historical imbalances? When are we going to put those issues behind ourselves?

[@hannesviljoen]

At 2:01 . Who is this hysterical person?

[@getdownadam]

Looks like this was filmed during load shedding. 😂

[@christodebeer3645]

Greed and Stupidity 😮

[@carolibouwer7170]

The policy should be economic empowerment, irrespective of race. Our economy is tanking and everyone should have a fair chance at contributing meaningfully. Its Government’s responsibility to create a climate through policy in which the economy can thrive. They need to get the basics right. I would start with fixing the education system. Young people need to finish school with employable skills. It is going to take hard work and a realistic time frame to turn this ship around. All politicians should refrain from making promises they can’t keep. Rather encourage South Africans to pull together to fix our country and lead by example as Mr Papas has in Howick.

[@glenm3712]

The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.

[@sumakata7243]

Africa is a 3rd world country competing with 1st world and 2nd world countries

[@yourfriendlyneighbourhoods8202]

SA is a third and first world country and the third world part is competing with the first world part

[@louisjohannesvandermerwe5067]

That's intelligence talking. Not Malema rumbling and mumbling. Note the difference.

[@durbanaltarministryofrepen286]

This is not a color thing.. South Africa is flooding!!!

[@Belugacrip]

It’s not quite the same. And yes it sounds like you’re gaslighting the real issues of discrimination, prejudices and redressing imbalances.

[@mjabulelwazondi5209]

Tell us less about passive passangers ,tell us about the owners of the airline,what do they do to ensure the pilot is white,black ,indian and coloured ,she must represent what the demographics look like ,because if she does not then somone is getting ecluded and its not the job of the passangers to worry about correcting that.

[@Enoch940]

Me i am zulu and i do not like zulu taxi driver. I never fly airplane but eish this zulu taxi very very danger. No breins no rules no manner nor care.

[@31wiseman]

Nice speech, if you were not from the DA you definitely would've gotten my vote. Sadly

[@SteveWarlee]

And therefore, you are not a wise man but a blooming flower without petals or stem.

[@31wiseman]

@@SteveWarlee if not voting for the DA makes me that flower, I'd gladly take it

[@tonitappous2422]

There are many misperceptions ( wrong impressions) about the DA which are not actually true! The DA is no longer a white party representing only white interests! It has instead become the most racially diverse political party in the history of SA , with Black, White, Coloured and Indian South Africans all in its Top 6 leadership!! The DA represents the rainbow that SA has become better than any other political party! The DA also has a new breed of young and very capable leaders of all races (much like Chris Pappas) across all of the 9 Provinces in SA!! As Mandela and the Springboks have shown us, we are much stronger as a nation and get much better results when we work together!! The DA represents the interests all ALL South Africans equally, and also puts SA first before the political party!!

[@tonitappous2422]

If you live in KZN, pse at least give your Provincial vote to the DA, as Chris Pappas is their Premier Candidate!! Have you seen the progress being made in uMngeni Municipality? He can bring that same progress to the whole Province!!

[@31wiseman]

@@tonitappous2422 sadly they don't represent someone like me, if they did they wouldn't have called murderers in Phoenix HEROS for killing innocent defenceless people. One of them was my close friend driving home from the petrol station. I'll never vote for such a party

[@gif623]

Hope you agenda sticks and not divert for the people and not making themself rich

[@KollerKrew]

The title of this video is terrible.

[@sirdon8883]

My guy you must move to orania you coming with your stupid politics, why don't you go and fix it

[@danielgouws1470]

Nou wat van die Leier Steenhuis wat nog nie die eerlike lands burgers onverskooning gevra het oor daardie haatspraak lied.

[@W.GlobalAffairs]

Leaders are not plumbers and pilots, us native Africans know that from our experience of colonialism and apartheid. So, our thinking works differently from the thinking of those who never experienced injustice. With that mentality, you are likely to be surprised how little your numbers will be after elections.

[@yourfriendlyneighbourhoods8202]

And do you think the ANC has given you that justice? They ended apartheid but have done nothing to help the country since. Time to give someone else a try

[@W.GlobalAffairs]

@@yourfriendlyneighbourhoods8202 , we not looking for justice coz our justice for apartheid to end - we are looking for leaders of an African nation. See, South Africa is one big kingdom, we are all the same and we are one. In Africa, a kingdom needs a leader and that is why you see people gravitate to a leader in Africa. But a leader of an African kingdom cannot be a stranger. If you want to lead African people and an African kingdom, make sure you are one of them first. The only person that has done that on the DA, is Chi's papas. The others think they can just lead remotely, but it doesnt work like that in Africa.

[@stevensamuels2488]

They are the same as every politician just cheap talk once you vote for them they do the same as the past political party.

[@Ilikepie18855]

WC is by far the best run province by a large margin…. I would beg to differ. There’s a track record there. Not everyone is a Mandela mampara

[@yourfriendlyneighbourhoods8202]

Pappas has done wonders for howick and the surrounding community in just 16 months

[@simphiwedlamini8243]

We have more than 3,5 million white people who have never voted for anything except white led parties, in 1994 fresh from apartheid they voted for National Party not Mandela but FW De Klerk because he was white, National Party was dissolved Democratic Party and National Party merged and DA was formed still consistently the same number of white voters vote for DA, so now that the DA wants power Africans are told not to vote on racial lines and vote for DA, we do have Africans who can clean up this anc mess, we work for private sector we are still seeing what our parents used to see, you can never see white general workers or young white people being exploited as interns, they are giving supervisory positions even if they nothing.DA is nothing but a party that is here to protect the interests of certain racial groups unfortunately for them they need Africans voters to get into power to do that, DA in Cape Town and Tshwane doesn't care about black people you can see that in how service delivery is done in our Townships.

[@yourfriendlyneighbourhoods8202]

Because whites vote based on competency. Black leadership in SA has not shown that unfortunately except for the IFP but they’re primarily KZN based

[@luckyluke5743]

Majority disadvantage. Wow. True

[@petercowan6361]

The problem is politics. You cannot for instance have politicians running a municipality. It is a proven failure. If a large motor vehicle factories were to be run by politicians, imagine what dangerous wrecks would b on the roads. Never mind the potholes which they have created.

[@expose_massive_banking_crime]

Looking very handsome, Mr Pappas

[@MarkHogan-r9r]

Oh here's a draad sitter