Do you get a Free Pass to the Lower City if Wyll Doesn't Turn into a Devil?

[@rettbull9100]

Wyll: Do you know who my father is? Guards: Why, didn't your mom tell you?

[@straussenberg286]

Good one 🤣👍💘

[@schmeth4076]

that does sound like something karlach would say

[@xiii0722]

Lmaoooooo

[@natetwehues2428]

"You are an upstanding citizen, aren't you?" "I'll get back to you."

[@meloneatingwolf1882]

(Your mind goes back to that once adorable squirrel you kicked.)

[@bobmcbob49]

Really it's a much funnier cutscene if he is a devil because after 2 full parts of worrying that people will freak out when they see him, he winds up just being consistently mistaken for a tiefling

[@the_revanchistlegion]

I always wondered about this, and it’s actually pretty cool how Larian took the time to add in this small sort of bonus for players who were willing to let Wyll kill Karlach. However, I’m not even slightly surprised that the second gatekeeper denies you regardless (she’ll demand 20K as a bribe 😒).

[@Amy_the_Lizard]

To be fair, cameras don't exist in this setting, and Wyll's been gone 7 years - I highly doubt she's ever seen him before

[@Mldy96]

To be fair, they don't say/do anything if you jump/fly over to the other side right in front of them lol

[@temperspace]

Another reason i feel so compelled giving every camp companion a turn to go out 😭

[@williamalfonso1373]

I found a document that I read. Idk what it said, but it gave me the option to say that Gortash hired me as an additional body guard. They let me in with that after a persuasion roll.

[@BrandoB2557]

I ended up ignoring the front gate, and snuck in along the cliffside.

[@jameswalton5733]

-Has a cool backstory that ties into a certain location -Said backstory is totally useless besides plot points that the DM dictates A perfect representation of DnD in a nutshell

[@Litterbugtaylor]

Or as we call that in baldurs gate 3, the illusion of choice.

[@BindingFury]

more like wyll getting shafted once again

[@ayuwokiy]

​@@Litterbugtaylor We lost the freedom of choice on the start of act 2, when that begun, I saw the game turning into a linear game

[@DrooledOn]

@@ayuwokiy better than skyrim

[@endlessemptyvoid]

@@DrooledOn Are you comparing apples to oranges? Skyrim is over 10 years old.

[@markh4545454]

Its wierd seeing that guard without her mouth blasting off to a different dimension

[@JayBeMeee]

Which one? I usually get both glitching out. 😂

[@sindurwavesismaturf]

I've seen this big but at the Last Light inn lmao

[@mewmew34]

​@@sindurwavesismaturf I got both the giel at Last Light and the guard doing it my first time through those areas, as well as one of the gnomes with Wulbren being very low-quality.

[@mythloverb5931]

I call her “Flaming Fist Noot Noot”

[@taicanium]

I thought you were calling her a smartass bitch, and had to be corrected by a friend who's played the game longer than me. Hah.

[@sachiellovesyou]

"an enemy of the absolute 🤖🤖" pfft whatever nerd *sneaks around the entrance*

[@ManubibiWalsh]

So, him being the duke’s son is useless anyway. Alright lol

[@BrightBlueInk]

I mean, he WAS exiled.

[@notveryartificial4486]

I mean - saves 200 bucks

[@PenguinNinja45]

@@notveryartificial4486how does it save money you have to fight them anyways

[@notveryartificial4486]

@@PenguinNinja45 you don't have to fight anyone. If you saved iron hand gnomes and don't immediately attack the patrol with steelwatcher - they will flashbang the steelwatcher before it can tell anyone that you are to be arrested, and everyone just forgets you exist, because now they gotta find out how to fix it

[@drackestalentorgen166]

i mean...he was exiled...so it makes sence no one would care about him being the Dukes son when an Archduke is being coronated

[@MyViolador]

I felt so big brain when i found the side entrance to the city

[@faidheanta2611]

in my durge playthrough i snuck through and around wyrm's rock itself. had to go up over the top past gortash's private office and kill a bunch of steel watchers lmao

[@ТвойГосподин-ф7ь]

Я единственный мега интеллектуал который догадался пройти мимо стражи невидимостью

[@EphemeralPseudonym]

i literally just ran through and fled combat once i triggered the waypoint 💀

[@Xylarxcode]

Well, that's the problem with living in a world where pictures and film don't exist. No one knows what you look like, other than those close to you. They know you by name or reputation, but not by face. Anyone can say they're Duke Ravengard's son.

[@ShiftyApparition]

I want an option where Tav can claim to be Wyll, if they're a human male (or disguised as a human male). Or Gale could make the attempt and fail miserably. Actually I want that second one more, Gale would fail so hard at pulling it off even before the fact that he's the wrong race and possibly a decade or more too old.

[@siaskies1704]

Gale: I am Wyll Ravengard, returning to my home in Baldur's Gate Guard: you look rather,,,, pale? old? I mean, you don't look how I imagined Wyll Ravengard to look. Gale, solemnly: it has been a very difficult seven years.

[@nicolasvidal92]

I really hate to be pedantic, but pictures definitely exist in Faerun, you're thinking of photographs. And I'm sure that you'd at least be able to surmise if someone is related to your city's ruler, especially if he's your boss.

[@TheSporelord01]

In the real world this was solved with a few layers of protection. Firstly, by personal knowledge (communities were smaller, even the biggest cities were a few hundred k people). Important figures and their families were known by the locals Secondly, with seals and official documents. The Romans had a pretty elaborate system for this but you can imagine even in fantasy something like a signet ring, necklace, etc that would be extremely expensive and hard to fake. In a DnD context they could put an enchantment on the item for further security. Third with bearing, speech, clothes, etc. Income, healthcare, and education inequality was enormous. You could tell the difference between a peasant putting on an act and a noble. Last with severe punishment for lying about nobility or identity. Extremely painful public torture and execution type thing

[@molybdaen11]

That's where seals and secret greetings come into play.

[@lloydcrawford8098]

My Evil Durge: 'Ithillid flight to top of local house then fly into palace' I'll let myself in!

[@bulletsandbracelets4140]

my halfling bard had the necklace that let her shapeshift into a raven. flew in and wound up in Gortash's chamber XD luckily you don't trigger anything by showing up as a bird!

[@noatiendoboludos]

2:10 this is just Karlach's VA

[@starwarslover015]

I find it funny that if he does have the horns he tries it twice. I actually saw for the first time Florrick’s response if he doesn’t have them (Karlach is alive, I just got her fairly late and had other night time scenes override Mizora so she took a few days to show up. )

[@korakys]

Gith were originally based on the idea of what a Jedi would be like, at least stats-wise, in D&D. So seeing the lightsabers there is a neat coincidence. *They have force powers, big special swords they are very attached to, and a faction each based on mental powers and physical powers. Edit: Ok, so I swear I read this somewhere a decade ago but I went to go double check and I couldn't find a single source for it or even discussion of the similarity. However the Gith were invented by a 14 year old British boy in late 1977 or early '78, the height of Star Wars mania, so I think the theory is still valid (at least the force/psionics and lightsaber/silver sword parts). Interestingly the backstory, culture, and even _name_ of the Githyanki were taken from a sci-fi novel by George R. R. Martin.

[@4m4n40]

I couldn’t think of any Jedi like things going for them before this, but now I still can’t, except for maybe just the monk angle? They have a lot of poorly written bits to them, probably why they aren’t really written about that much now. You could write loads about Jedi though.

[@DIEGhostfish]

Ah Games Workshop, never change.

[@NyJoanzy]

Fun fact: the steel watchers are controlled by brain jars through magic wifi. But are still immune to psychic damage for no reason.

[@OneWingedRose]

Led lined jars.

[@NyJoanzy]

@@OneWingedRose ah yes. Led, famously good with wifi and brain health. I wonder why they stopped using it in hats?

[@SorowFame]

That might be precisely why, they’re designed to take in psychic signals and a disembodied, personality-less, brain probably isn’t going to care about being insulted or have a greatest fear for stuff like Phantasmal Killer to take advantage of.

[@Reac2]

Isn't that exactly the reason? The brain isn't physically here. Your spell is not in range of the target (the actual brain).

[@bodotrenaud7441]

Look at me, now look at you, then look at me again. I AM the physical damage !

[@laurelrhodes744]

Wyll really said “do you know who my father is?” 😂

[@straussenberg286]

Spoiler alert: No, they won't, doesn't matter devil or human. Either way he's persona non grata. You'll have to steal the permission to cross anyway. Or pay a massive bribe 😘

[@billydarkholme]

All you have to do is to take invitation from Katherics table in act 2.

[@straussenberg286]

@@billydarkholme Or from the brothel in the room with guard and driad at BG suburbs😘

[@alexanderwheeler3943]

I always just snuck my stealthies character behind them, unlocked the portal next to Sharess's Caress, then had the party join them that way

[@medicgaming9117]

I think if you've saved the gnomes they flashbang the watcher.

[@korakys]

There are so many ways to sneak in that in three games I've never tried either option.

[@DoctorBright]

My last durge playthrough I took out all of the scrying eyes from stealth before doing anything else. I got through the gate without being "selected for special treatment"

[@sepiasmith5065]

oooooh that's so cool to know!

[@Azrael178]

Im still annoyed that even if your whole party is under the seeming spell the watcher still recognises you. Why do they even sell it at the carnival then

[@olivermeloche2042]

I mean it connects to your tadpole, what would seeming do

[@xdervin6114]

the watcher is connecting to your tadpole and reading your mind why would seeming which merely changes your appearance work?

[@Azrael178]

@@xdervin6114 if that's the lore justification then ok, but I would really appreciate narrator not mentioning that it recognised me because the eye of scrying in grymforge saw me then

[@DarkLordArbitur]

The game straight up says the watcher connects to your mind, scans your memories, and sees everything you've done. Seeming won't do shit.

[@goldenalt3166]

​@@DarkLordArbiturExcept it doesn't. It only reports what the floating eyes have seen you do.

[@Mikkyjaws]

You know what's annoying? Wyll using human disguise but it's not his original human form so you can't do this if you don't kill Karlach.

[@jarynlandrum7474]

That githy Tav got me acting up

[@reffa2858]

Ill never forget that scene. It was the first time, her lip glitched and stretched all the way offscreen.

[@SevenWiredAngels]

I wonder if im the only person that just uses a potion of invisibility to pass through here

[@MMORPGFreaky]

Wylls armor is fkn dope!

[@dakotahondalock5621]

It’s called the Elven Chain, and it’s purchased from the Golden Dragonborn lady at the smithy in Rivington

[@ananas0799]

I loved being a bard and convincing her that I had to play for Gortash’s coronation.

[@NinjaFlibble]

Me, reading the title: how do you keep Wyll from becoming a demon? Me, a minute later: oh....oh no...not even my Durge is that evil.

[@DIEGhostfish]

You used to be able to res her, which was patched out as an exploit, but that's exactly the kind of weaseling out of a devil's contract that should be encouraged. "You said to kill her, not to keep her dead."

[@NinjaFlibble]

@@DIEGhostfish I did not know that...shows you how much I push game mechanics 😂and I think I would have kept that in as a creative method to keep both characters without Wyll getting horned...

[@Government_Shill_2001]

I almost always kill karlach. I prefer leazel as my melee fighter and the robe you get from mizora is so good for gale or a caster tav.

[@eclecticx]

A distinction without a difference.

[@ManubibiWalsh]

Your gith custom character is GORGEOUS!!!

[@jasonpearl6006]

If you sneak attack the scrying eyes in both areas you get through

[@OLBarbok]

Second guard looks like she smokes weed and lives in Berlin

[@Allison_Hart]

your Tav is so pretty!

[@lowflo_3530]

Love the way your githyanki tav looks 😊

[@Angels-Haven]

turn subtitles on

[@marealnamenott]

Blaze Elin doesn’t give a shit😂😂

[@artturisiikanen3843]

still does not fix the problem which is the fucking steel watcherer.

[@infirmusetiam7058]

I don't know why, on my durge playthrough the steelwatcher said my record was clear, even if I raided moonlight towers on my own in slayer form.

[@Mr.K316]

Literally was curious about this thanks for posting I’ll prob never see this myself can’t do big sister karlach dirty

[@DrAngryMongoose]

Thanks for the video I was really curious about this but wasn't going to kill Karlach tp find out

[@naliagonzalez4782]

I know the vid was about Wyll but the Gith Tav is beautiful

[@stopmefoamjumping]

Clearly NOT worth killing Karlach because you can easily go around these obstacles with Feather Fall and the like.

[@CMiY0]

You kill Karlach so you don’t look fugly playing as Wyll.

[@Ya0w]

@@CMiY0 The Horns make him even more handsome, win win!

[@CMiY0]

@@Ya0w it’s not the horns. His face just warps and it looks like someone sucked all the life out of him lol. It looks like he’s lost an excessive amount of weight and no longer has his plump cheeks which I think suited his face.

[@magister343]

@@Ya0w The horns make him more handsome, but I don't love his demon eye and I hate his default hairstyle. I prefer to give him Gale's hair and a goatee (using the Appearance Edit Enhanced mod), but those disappear when he gets the horns.

[@Ya0w]

@@magister343 Fair enough, had no idea the horns removed options (aside from the force horns ofc), as i prefer default Wyll.

[@kare880]

Murdering Karlach to save 200 gold? Who could resist such a deal

[@Jarikraider]

Do you get a Free Pass to the Lower City if -you kill Karlach- Wyll Doesn't Turn into a Devil?

[@ginthley2485]

What hair do you use? is it modded?

[@Aishyo]

I was let in when i played as evil Wyll

[@Bluexanthus0522]

Casual Lightsabers

[@gureiratto]

Why do you have lightsabers 😭

[@UselessBard]

Your Tav is so pretty!

[@exxiethewriter3567]

Wow your githyanki is gorgeous

[@TamTroll]

goddamn... your Gith pretty...

[@SrChr778]

I think it's impossible for anyone to be "upstanding" in a game like this, given the average player's track record.

[@granddiety14yt62]

Your Gith looks like a Sith.....Sithyanki

[@AleksoLaĈevalo999]

And their mortal enemy would be... Jedizerai?

[@Brightmarionne]

I just use fly to get in

[@Tuskbumper]

Same lol. I didn't know that a fight was assured

[@KestrelM117]

@@Tuskbumper Well in fact if you consent to arrest, you don't have to fight because someone helps you afterwards

[@Fooleen]

there’s a detour on your right if you go down the trail right before the gates. jump, jump, hop and you’re in.

[@Sylvie_without_surname]

What you're telling me is that you were a monster and it still got you nothing, huh?

[@scootaboot9551]

The hell you mean good try? It's literally him??

[@kkeevvinn7952]

How does the watcher conversation end when no eyes ever saw you?

[@UncommonProtagonist]

I need to go back and unalive her she got my 200 gold worst part is after I gave her 200 I still had to go through another step that I didn’t want to do and found a free way to pass😂😂

[@knightchef]

Cementing killing the best girl is not worth it.

[@illythriah793]

My father will hear about this! haha!

[@IneffableChild]

0:16 that gith with the orphic hammer is so beautiful, he looks like a prince 💙

[@potadoc1157]

Bro that gith is gorgeous

[@undyne1]

So Wyll is useless, even in a story perspective. Poor guy got the short end of the stick.

[@nataliebateman1151]

I don't care about the free pass! It means I'd have to sacrifice Karlach and I would NEVER do that

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

Just get a tiefling hirling, name them Karlos or something, and give them the best approximation of hair through appearance editing mods

[@molybdaen11]

So you killed Karlach for nothing.

[@aouyiu]

Infernal robes

[@molybdaen11]

@@aouyiu I think at that point in the game you have already found a better one. But at least Will can get the girls, he?