“Do You Know Who the Market Leader Is?” | Dragons’ Den

Vernon Kerswell is pitching the world's first remote-controlled micro-helicopter and car in one. He’s seeking an investment of £75,000 and in return offers 15% equity in Extreme Fliers but Peter knows this industry far too well…
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[@franciscolaurean8550]

Of course Theo is a kid at heart he's just a fetus

[@gilbertdaroy6080]

Hahaha!

[@Baggiolyful]

Stop it 😂

[@ArcaneAnouki]

*THE* fetus

[@robertj5208]

I see what you did there!

[@kuyaambinsvlog]

Theo per fetus

[@RockyDave]

I've made a helicopter. Unfortunately it can only go up and down. I know... I'll put wheels on it.

[@grahamsterling105]

And become the God of drones! www.indiegogo.com/projects/micro-drone-4-0-affordably-priced-under-200/x/3497289#/comments

[@KJ_2020]

🤣🤣

[@caleyhall]

@@grahamsterling105 it’s a scam, read the comments

[@grahamsterling105]

@@caleyhall Agreed, on the face of it at least, as clearly evidenced in the backer's comments [of which I am one].

[@AdamLuiTube]

@@grahamsterling105 "Indeed lessons learned, wasted money on a mentally ill campainger." lol

[@danielrobinson6717]

This guy made me happy to see a 21 year old do so well and then I read the comments.....

[@vegn_brit5176]

Same here. He even had the gaul to show up in the comments! Just shows appearances can be deceiving.

[@commanderkeen3787]

Lol he's actually commenting on this video, responding to individual accusations? Now that's time well spent!

[@marior.4305]

@@commanderkeen3787 cannot see any comments from him. all deleted by him so far ?

[@RantTheRetort]

@@marior.4305 No, not deleted, but he basically stopped using KZbin, Facebook, and Twitter. His IndieGoGo campaign was suspended last week, and IndieGoGo is issuing backers refunds. Kerswell hasn't made an official comment, just lying in the comments section about how it's just a misunderstanding and he is close to delivery

[@RantTheRetort]

@@marior.4305 Update on MIA Kerswell: He is now posting in IndieGoGo claiming to be one of the female team members (the one who does customer relations). Oddly, this personality is the one that deals specifically with customers, but in over 2 years has not answered an email, posted publicly, or in any way indicated it is anything more than a stock photo with a made up bio (which I suspect is the case). What a master class in incompetence or fraud.

[@steverayerdriving]

He says "Helicopter Car!" like a child that's having a fun afternoon with their LEGO.

[@mgalaxys6399]

I mean you do need to be enthusiastic in your product if you want it to succeed.

[@Argumemnon]

Terror wasp!!!! Oooohhh!!!

[@Hi-kq1vi]

Oh boy, a quick search shows people online calling him a scam artist & thief & saying they want to see him locked up.

[@Logicsuperceeds]

Do you mean a little reddit forum where 3 people are discussing it?

[@Hi-kq1vi]

@@Logicsuperceeds Reddit is one place-people are saying he has been taking cash since 2015 & providing nothing.

[@vernonkerswell654]

They are trolling, unfortunately the pandemic has caused some disruption to manufacturing for us resulting in some hateful and abusive messages by a very small number of vocal individuals

[@microfail2597]

@@vernonkerswell654 Yes unfortunately the pandemic that happened 6 months after the shipping date caused not only a disruption, but also a massive downgrading off all the drones specifications. Crazy that!

[@acroporalateralus5362]

@@vernonkerswell654 You are the troll.

[@choolakejinendra9652]

3 buildings? what kind of a height measuring way is that?

[@comasali2963]

American measuring

[@elyanae9588]

@@comasali2963 he's the most English person I've ever seen.

[@comasali2963]

@@elyanae9588 yeah ik, but it's funny how he measures like American people. If you don't know what Im talking about, look it up it's the weirdest thing

[@Nerbss]

Height measuring way? What kind of a way to say Measurement is that?

[@sheepdogoutdoors7006]

@@Nerbss It bothers me when the top comment is broken english😂

[@matthewbevilaqua8817]

Theo: I'll trade you all of my children's inheritance for the Terror Wasp

[@jakehay3074]

Give me one thousand dollars.

[@matthewbevilaqua8817]

@@jakehay3074 you're ripping us off for a G note this is BS!!

[@jakehay3074]

*UP IN THE CLUB*

[@grahamsterling105]

To his current backers, Vernon IS the terror wasp: www.indiegogo.com/projects/micro-drone-4-0-affordably-priced-under-200/x/3497289#/comments

[@Droning-ON]

He's a disgrace, avoid at all costs!

[@michalwalks]

Peter spent over 100k in legal fees when he should have invested that in quadcopters and avoid those issues completely....

[@grahamsterling105]

Here’s why Peter didn’t invest: www.indiegogo.com/projects/micro-drone-4-0-affordably-priced-under-200/x/3497289#/comments

[@RantTheRetort]

www.indiegogo.com/projects/micro-drone-3-0-flight-in-the-palm-of-your-hand#/comments

[@bobstirling6885]

He's good at taking money from gullible people though, his Indigogo pages alone have netted him millions....

[@RobertLeather]

I love how, even though we know it’s not true, he tries to save face by lying about a “new rotor design” at the end. He’s gone into taking nearly £1.5m in investment for a drone he’s incapable of delivering.

[@RantTheRetort]

Vernon is nothing if not a prolific and dedicated liar.

[@HankHill1]

@@RantTheRetort woah really...

[@RantTheRetort]

@@HankHill1 check out his microdrone 4.0 comments page.

[@oliverernst5108]

This video is how old? Ten, twelve, fifteen years? Before you feel sad about the outcome with the Dragons, have better a look at Kerswell's current Indiegogo Scampaign. There he is always very close to something, planning something, looking into something - but is never getting there. The time back, the Dragons just made the right decision.

[@g871]

Vernon has since gone on to reinvent himself as the greatest horse trainer in the world, Aidan O' Brien.

[@johnmc3862]

Good spot!

[@Argumemnon]

"It can fly as high as three buildings." "How high are the buildings, respectively?"

[@BenjaminGoose]

Most buildings can't fly, so it's probably true.

[@RespectOthers1]

Peter never miss an opportunity to plug his companies.

[@iainnicholls8537]

Yes a legend and decent chap to

[@NiteshDas]

That makes him a great businessman 🌟

[@thedappercook]

He is wise then. And a multi multi multi millionaire for such reasons.

[@TheAazah]

He doesn't mention the names or anything about his other companies. He used his business past history to say to him you gonna have an legal battle and you not gonna win.

[@RespectOthers1]

@@TheAazah Peter asked the guy does he know which company he is involved in and Vernon said ‘yes, Bladez Toyz’.

[@RockyDave]

James: Can it fly to me? Vernon: Of course not. It's only a helicopter. Touker: I think you should go back to university.

[@sirbla1rsco239]

Touker ?

[@RockyDave]

@@sirbla1rsco239 Theo. Dragons all look the same to me.

[@CoasterCrazyy]

"It can fly as high as three buildings!" Im assuming he meant three stories just sounded funny hehe

[@BenjaminGoose]

No, it can fly as high as three very small buildings.

[@BenjaminGoose]

Plot twist: buildings can't fly.

[@RockyDave]

Three buildings next to each other, or three buildings from his own workshop.

[@CoasterCrazyy]

Allergic To Hypocrisy calm down, just caught me off guard lol, there’s always someone who needs to lighten up

[@BigBoss7777777]

@@CoasterCrazyy wow you're actually making fun of dyslexia? Jackass.

[@crystalbutterfly2758]

Vernon in the comments is like the Walmart version of Amy from Amy's Baking Company

[@grahamsterling105]

Gosh, ABC... your'e right, and what a nightmare that was! *Shiver, shiver, cringe*

[@sevenman9672]

@@grahamsterling105 Gosh, golly, yer a wee rentboy! Stop slobbering over Vernon's winkie!

[@Kronenbourg_1664]

Oh god I can't stand the tongue smacking

[@grahamsterling105]

And neither can the ultimate backers! www.indiegogo.com/projects/micro-drone-4-0-affordably-priced-under-200/x/3497289#/comments

[@crystalbutterfly2758]

@Rob dnb ikr

[@olivej6607]

I turned the volume as low as I could while still audible and then threw captions on.

[@johnfused8281]

It's not as bad listening to someone chew their food with their mouth open

[@johnmc3862]

Therapy.

[@vikramgowrishankar2525]

Theo mentioned that he himself was dyslexic in one of his interviews. And the way he looked at him said it all.

[@barneyclifton6402]

That's a pretty big flaw in the patent system. Also it's not copywriting, there's a difference between patents and copyrights.

[@calebsmith462]

The whole system of patents, and intellectual property in general, is one giant flaw.

[@vibovitold]

@@calebsmith462 it's basically there for the giants to easily squash (or take over) any upcoming competition. even if you didn't violate any patents, you still can't afford going into a lengthy legal battle with a corporation that claims "yes, you did", which has a budget for lawyers ten times bigger than your entire revenue. and as long as you're locked in such a battle, no investor will risk investing in you, so your momentum becomes practically dead at this point.

[@barneyclifton6402]

Yeah it's weird that patents only last for 25 years or whatever also. Because when that's up, you can bet everything that bigger companies will literally disassemble your entire organisation.

[@barneyclifton6402]

Copyrights are a good idea though, I think patents should be lifetime also though.

[@RantTheRetort]

No, protecting proprietary IP is a good idea, though the system, like all systems can and is often abused. However in this case, it's not like he had a good or original idea. His previous toys were just mass market crap be bought and resold.

[@RantTheRetort]

Update on Vernon Kerswell. Jan 2019: Back my thoroughly tested and production ready drone, delivery in June 2019. November 2019: We have started prosuction. Jan 2020: We are deliverying next month. Jan 2021: We are shipping soon. Jan 2022: We are shipping soon. Jan 2023: We are shipping soon. Mar 2023: We still start production soon.

[@acroporalateralus5362]

Jenny was lucky to get out of this one. Guy is a professional scam artist getting away with fraud.

[@grahamsterling105]

www.indiegogo.com/projects/micro-drone-4-0-affordably-priced-under-200/x/3497289#/comments

[@madeelhussain]

If she would be there she would definitely say .M out .best of luck

[@VenturePictures]

Just read up on this ... Yeah ... He gone F'ed up ha

[@human1414]

What happened?!

[@skogis06]

I feel like the guy needs a glass of water. Can’t stand the smacking sound

[@jakehandley3366]

Made me switch off!

[@JohnSmith-zs1bf]

Needs to open his teeth to be heard unlike fifty cent

[@readysteadywhoa]

Thanks now I can't unhear it

[@vermin5142]

He needs to be put in prison. Guy scammed thousands of people out of their hard-earned cash.

[@kingdomperspectivesmindset5595]

Don't be jealous 🤯🥴

[@praveeshachapman677]

Theo talking to that guy was like a father to a son.

[@Ass_Burgers_Syndrome]

Which needs to happen more with actual fathers and sons. Then the younger generation wouldn't be the spoiled brats that they are these days.

[@basketanand]

Wow Peter just saved this guy 100k pounds and 6 months with lawyers on all his future product plans in 5 mins

[@danielnichols5632]

"only goes up and down" lol I'm sure MI5 will be queuing up to buy those then...

[@Tres_Nueve]

Theo with excellent fatherly advice at the end. Why didn't he listen?

[@markozg1645]

This was beautiful

[@stephenowens5375]

Dragons dodged a bullet, well done👍

[@user-ug1yq6zt5t]

Put on some red and blue lights And its a HeliCopCar!

[@benatkinson3739]

Yeah and pigs can fly

[@RantTheRetort]

hahahah

[@witlof5492]

Sorry, thumb down by mistake!

[@madamefeast4824]

Lol I been binge watching DD again and I'm watching this. And thinking why does this guy seem familiar? Ooohhh. He's the scam guy with the troubles on kickstarter or whatever. Ha! Love it.

[@erepsekahs]

I love the way they are all Managing Directors/ Chief Executive Officers/Financial Directors etc.etc.etc. It's a scream.

[@royfr8136]

Yeah, I'm the chief captain, boss, managing director of my company that doesn't exist

[@scottyk200]

Brilliant. He’s driving along. He gets to a wall. He stops. Thinks “it’s ok, I can go up now”. He goes up. Wait….. I’m joshing. Well a bit. In any case he’s probably more successful than I’ve been or will ever be.

[@samgrimshaw388]

Turns out he's a scamming people out of hundreds of pounds nowadays

[@vernonkerswell654]

It's ok if you don't like the recent problems we've experienced along the way, but going onto random forums and making personal insults about me is not. Myself and the team are still working day and night to deliver the best product we can and I would appreciate if you would draw some balance.

[@RantTheRetort]

@@vernonkerswell654 Prove him wrong. Your story page says shipping in June 2019, it's now Nov 2020 and you just announced a 30-40 delay, and looking at your update history, if it isn't shipped by December, you stop working until after Chinese New Year. How do you start Jan 2019 with "production ready" and in Nov 2020 say "don't call me a scam artist" when you stopped refunds in 2019, before you entered production, have been in "production" since May 2019, but just announced ANOTHER 2 month delay? And then after an updated announcing a 30-40 day delay, said you were "close" to shipping. It's called stringing people along. It's a grift.

[@DrKasden]

@@vernonkerswell654 It's not an insult if it is true! To whomever reads this, beware! Vernon Kerswell will whine and squeal about how "honest" he is, but don't fall for it. He is a liar, a thief, a con artist. He lies so much, he forgets his lies. Don't believe me? Check out the comments by the thousands he injured by stealing their money. www.indiegogo.com/projects/micro-drone-4-0-affordably-priced-under-200/x/12799626#/comments

[@RantTheRetort]

@@vernonkerswell654 Explain why your app on Google Play only has 23 reviews that are 3 star or above, why your company never replies to compliments, complaints or questions in the reviews? Is that because your company is so successful that the app doesn't work?

[@samgrimshaw388]

@@vernonkerswell654 yeah nah mate

[@aggrogator4045]

"It can fly as high as 3 buildings" And people make fun of American measurements 😂

[@RockyDave]

It really can fly as high as 3 buildings from his workshop. Also, being British, he would have arranged the buildings side-by-side.

[@prowlus]

@@RockyDave hes probably exaggerating. Even my Emax Tinyhawk (a hobby grade drone) with its current transmitter technology would lose signal after 40 meters let alone 100

[@rem_rem_rem]

@@prowlus maybe it’ll really go 3 buildings high but never comes back

[@blacktemplar5970]

Look "3 buildings" is a very legitimate measurement, all builldings should be one building tall, and so 3 buildings stacked on top of each other would therefore be 3 buildings tall

[@tobymacdonald5893]

@@blacktemplar5970 lmfao

[@FranheskaRoxxaneCole]

a weight check and a motor limit, breaks power limit of flying or a licence for more expensive drones with a regulation of you get the gps coordinates so you can track where they are regulated.

[@medullaoblongata9670]

‘Heavens to Betsy’ a three building high flying drone predecessor. Who would’ve ever thought?.

[@KingKiavash]

This kid grew up to be a great scam artist.

[@karthikhegde9752]

Why? Please share the links...

[@magnem1043]

Villain origin story😭😭

[@MADVILLIAN777]

Origins of MF DOOM

[@CubicComplex]

His company, Extreme Fliers is still going strong after 13 years. In 2016 they won the Queen's Award For Enterprise: Innovation. It seems they pivoted away from toys and more towards micro-drones. Their patent for the combined use of helicopters and powered wheels was granted.

[@flick22601]

Thanks for the info.

[@thenotorious2312]

Thanks for the update!

[@Site17]

You missed the whole fiasco with indiegogo and how he scammed people out of 1.7 million

[@thenotorious2312]

Hyper1RU wow!

[@mindnmetal]

www.indiegogo.com/projects/micro-drone-4-0-affordably-priced-under-200/x/20462576#/comments

[@trishstevenson3022]

Well said Touka

[@jamesb2632]

Delays and misrepresentation of the Mirco Drone 4.0 began long before COVID! Unable to keep timelines for updates, simple things such as typing an update on time is still in your control!

[@eliseanna6561]

I always get more excited when an old episode is uploaded. I love the stairs. . I love how the dragons still introduced themselves. Like the entrepreneurs wouldn't know their names before coming in 😂 'hi I would want your hard earned cash but who.. are you actually?' I love the long awkward silence in the beginning. I love the disgusted stares. I also love this line-up of dragons. I do watch dragons den for the business part yes, but mixed up with entertainment is just perfect.

[@MADVILLIAN777]

Thanks for sharing beautiful Elise

[@TheMisphit]

"it flies as high as three buildings" ...what, three buildings stacked on top of each other?

[@beeble2003]

Pretty sure he just misspoke and meant to say "three houses", i.e., about 25m.

[@WiseEyes313]

Dragons den, you really are taking the mic with the ads!!!!

[@grahamsterling105]

A propeller short of a quadcopter!

[@RantTheRetort]

Where is Vernon now? Settling out of court because he can only afford refunds when threatened with a court date 🤔

[@RantTheRetort]

Update: IndieGoGo has suspended his campaign and is issuing refunds. He can STILL be held accountablility. The backers found a way to take him to court in the UK, I believe there have been over a hundred people did so.

[@tyrellmoxley2425]

@@RantTheRetort why is he being taken to court?

[@RantTheRetort]

@@tyrellmoxley2425 Failure to deliver the product from IGG and failing to abide by IGG ToU.

[@MCFC111]

I loved the way of Theo gave his viewpoint, very kind

[@NoahsAsylum0137]

For a change

[@robertj5208]

I keep wanting to shout "Put a camera on it!!!!"

[@ajinkyagauns2280]

21 years old....wow 🎉

[@Jim-so3zm]

1.4 of 5 on Trustpilot... oh dear 🤦‍♂️

[@AdamLuiTube]

Link??

[@travisrgrs]

How did you not call this the helicar

[@spannerintheworks1190]

That wasp would've caused controversy down the line, 'yobs frighten neighbour who suffers from wasp sting allergy' 😂

[@jazmyntaylor4187]

Is yobs and insult?

[@spannerintheworks1190]

@@jazmyntaylor4187 it's a term usually given to say, a young hoodlum, eg. "A group of yobs were drinking down the park".

[@shauntaylor6040]

Not just a Director but a Managing Director no less.

[@DavidJashi]

Yeah, he managed to scam out nearly 1.5 mil through crowdfunding.

[@davidmg1925]

I actually find it very hard to find anything to criticise in that presentation.

[@grahamsterling105]

Given the passage of time... www.indiegogo.com/projects/micro-drone-4-0-affordably-priced-under-200/x/3497289#/comments

[@Casey-Jones]

@@grahamsterling105 It seems like a lot of people don't understand the risks associated with crowd funding

[@Chi_Vid2]

@@grahamsterling105 All I see is winging millennials who invested £200 and expected to make millions.

[@grahamsterling105]

@@Chi_Vid2 Bingo! Putting on Big Boy pants doesn’t make it so: www.indiegogo.com/projects/micro-drone-4-0-affordably-priced-under-200/x/3497289#/comments

[@grahamsterling105]

@@Casey-Jones Or the risks associated with their own incompetence either, putting on big boy pants doesn’t make it so, right?

[@originalrenigade]

Will from the inbetweeners.

[@rhodrijohn7411]

Will isn't a con artist

[@ryangrant889]

GOAT lineup

[@Jaypes1]

Theo: It don't get bigger little than me.

[@fraseroliver17]

Will from the inbetweeners going places here

[@RantTheRetort]

Yeah, his backers thinking he's escaping to China with their money: www.indiegogo.com/projects/micro-drone-4-0-affordably-priced-under-200#/comments

[@johnmc3862]

Wait isnt Will of Pakistani origin.

[@jennamilleryall]

My word, get this poor boy some water 🙉

[@vernonkerswell654]

@@grahamsterling105 Don't troll, that's not nice. Micro Drone has been a very successful product line.

[@RantTheRetort]

@@vernonkerswell654 So successful you can't afford to refund people or your project will fail (according to you on the MD4 page). But you have been settling out of court when people file legal papers against you. It is almost like you are afraid of going to a hearing and having a lawyer put you on blast. Saw another backer just won judgement against you because you missed the court deadlinel, so ironic. Yeah, your company is doing just great. MD4 has less support than MD3 and still isn't close to being shipped. I can only imagine you on the Titanic "the ship is fine, no need to panic, we said it's unsinkable". I would love to see a financial report on your company.

[@MrBrad777c]

Forgot his magic wand! Dumbledore would be disappointed!

[@mariotesla]

if you got little kid theyll be terrified .... legend

[@danarnold8989]

Great to see will from the inbetweeners doing well for himself

[@rachaellouise2666]

Haha

[@DrB81]

This guy’s head is in the clouds. He just “droned” on. Perhaps if he lands a deal the sky will be the limit. Evan I’m coming for your job my man!

[@MikeGush.]

I'm unsure why you comment wasn't propelled to the top of the list..

[@DrB81]

@@MikeGush. Its politics mate. Evan is running scared. 🤣

[@RockyDave]

You could share the job and work on a rotor basis.

[@MikeGush.]

@@RockyDave this could really take off!!!

[@RockyDave]

@@MikeGush. We seem to be going backwards and forwards on this. Pity the helicopter can't!

[@torr5952]

This guy was great.

[@TheScotsalan]

I know this is an old vid, but these toys were cheap as chips in China. I live in China, they were a sort of giveaways a few years back 😂

[@litigioussociety4249]

There's no way there's a patent for any type of vehicle. A brand logo, specific make, such as a Volkswagen Beetle, or paint scheme, such as Herbie can be trademarked, but a car in general can't be trademarked. This is why rip off Star Wars ships can be sold, because they just have to look slightly different.

[@jakecoombs4032]

If you bothered to listen, its the rotor blades that are patented and that type of rotor is the only way to give it 3 dimensional moment.

[@vibovitold]

@@jakecoombs4032 it's still idiotic though (even if that's the law). if there is physically no more than one possible way of achieving something, then it's kind of like patenting a chemical reaction. it's more of a discovery, really, than an invention.

[@toshiroyamada2443]

@@vibovitold sounds like a monopoly to me which I thought were illegal under fair trade laws. I mean if there truly is an all encompassing patent on that rotor design and there truly is no other way of making it then they can simply refuse to sell the licence to anyone thus being a monopoly.

[@grahamsterling105]

You’re right, there are is no patent. www.indiegogo.com/projects/micro-drone-4-0-affordably-priced-under-200/x/3497289#/comments

[@Marsalien100]

I have a helicopter that goes in ALL directions lol his product was a joke 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@harrymartin684]

"They don't get any bigger little than me" - Theo the Fetus

[@alirehman4858]

He should have first done driving the car forward part of it then have it float/levitate

[@fourlamb1]

I liked the lad, a good British entrepreneur. Hope he's doing well now considering it was over a decade ago!

[@grahamsterling105]

A wonderful sentiment indeed, so just how well is this guy doing now [mid November 2020]? www.indiegogo.com/projects/micro-drone-4-0-affordably-priced-under-200/x/3497289#/comments

[@otoolepw]

@@grahamsterling105 seems many investors are angry at being scammed by him!

[@grahamsterling105]

@@otoolepw VK sees only ‘happy backers’. In our trippy ceo’s world, bestowed by these adoring backers with twenty times the amount of funding requested, freed from the restraints of time and space - indeed the very fabric of reality itself! - he trusts in the process, ordained now to apply laser-focus to deliver a product so perfect that the world can only take to its knees in praise, planetary orbits will shift and the universe realign around the new Vernie-centric entity, the sun having been snuffed out as but a flickering candle in comparison to his own mega aura. Boosted by a fuzzy, nether glow of damp omnipotence, staring fixedly at his soft-focus reflection on an [emptying] ocean of cash, our ceo ponders upon infinite life as THE Drone Deity Incarnate, the One... Oops-a-daisy...!

[@followthepolo2704]

Graham Sterling is telling nothing but the truth, I am also a backer from his latest campaign and its been a disaster, he made a good campaign offering a great product just to get funds, secured the cash stating he was on production when he is not even close to it, downgraded the product advertised, refuse to give refunds , his company website is non existent anymore, he has a bunch of lawsuits to respond

[@grahamsterling105]

@@followthepolo2704 Many thanks for your kind validation. If I may, sadly, that campaign would have been the creation of others - rather like the drone footage featured in said campaign, right? Whatever other ‘skills’ may be in the mix, are those of others, squandered and incapable of meaningful integration and completed product by the Peter Pan “ceo”.

[@emmyj4141]

They should've offered him a glass of water.

[@RantTheRetort]

Update on Vernon Kerswell's latest "product": Microdrone 4.0 launched in Jan 2019 it was "extensively tested and ready for production" with a June 2019 delivery. In Jan 2020 Kerswell told people it was shipping in February 2020. In July 2021 it was shipping in September 2021. In May 2022 it was shipping "in three months". In august 2022 it "has some open engineering issues" and will ship in a few months. Dragons den dodged a bullet on this smarmy toad.

[@scienceevolves4417]

Clearly this guy missed his calling, he should be in charge of brexit negotiations

[@Gaeton_Dugas]

well done

[@grahamsterling105]

Then... and now? www.indiegogo.com/projects/micro-drone-4-0-affordably-priced-under-200/x/3497289#/comments

[@Talkinglife]

Good one

[@notseriousentrepreneur141]

Perfect pitch perfect passion

[@funnymemes8570]

Nice editing skills buddy

[@JewTube001]

@@funnymemes8570 complimenting your own editing skills again huh?

[@notseriousentrepreneur141]

@@JewTube001 Still at it you sock puppet? Retort to the alienation guy on the other thread, my popcorn is out!

[@RantTheRetort]

Apparently a complete fraud, he keeps telling his backers on IGG that he can't give refunds without the MD4 collapsing. Of course he routinely settles out of court when his backers send their lawyers. I doubt he will have a company much longer.

[@sonny199]

Remind anyone of will Mckenzie? Inbetweeners 🤣🙊

[@wildalbalass4867]

Wow. The comments are extraordinary.

[@ericwyatt7892]

It's a good thing they passed. Dragon's Den should revisit Vernon Kerswell today. He has launched on Indiegogo again, and has yet to deliver what he promised backers. Those who gave him money to launch his new product feel cheated and lied too. OVER a year late he continues to modify and tweak his design away from what was promised and refuses to take responsibility for the status of the product. He came out with another "Update" today and still cannot commit to product timeframes or any substantial answers to backers. When pressed for a timeframe for providing updates he will not commit to anything, even though he promised backers bi-weekly updates. He's updates over a month apart from each other.

[@grahamsterling105]

Yes, check it out here: www.indiegogo.com/projects/micro-drone-4-0-affordably-priced-under-200/x/3497289#/

[@vernonkerswell654]

For disclosure, Eric Wyatt set up a hate group where they target and bombard forums with offensive and spurious allegations (in this case against our company). They are trolling this page which is not nice. Micro Drone has been a very successful product line.

[@grahamsterling105]

Eric’s not alone. Some 21,000 comments from backers [in almost 2 years now since early 2019] on the Micro Drone 4 Indiegogo page more than support this. Remember, that backers only become customers when a product is received, with receiving also being a measure toward success, that is ultimately determined from the satisfaction of many rather than the pronouncement of one. www.indiegogo.com/projects/micro-drone-4-0-affordably-priced-under-200/x/3497289#/comments

[@oliverernst5108]

@@vernonkerswell654 Would you just stop trolling and try to answer to questions you have been asked? Eric Wyatt has not set up a hate group. Thanks to him people have gotten chances to fight your scam campaign and get their money back.

[@RantTheRetort]

@@vernonkerswell654 Full disclosure? Isn't that what your backers want? They have asked to see the financials for this project but you refuse. Of course if Microdrone was as successful as you say, you would just refund those "few" backers and move on, but you seem to only refund when they take you to small claims courts and you ALWAYS settle out of court.

[@paulosullivan3472]

Leonardo Da Vinci came up with an idea for a helicopter 500 years ago, how can someone put it on a toy and claim that makes it patentable? The more I see about what apparently is allowed to be patented the more I think our patent system is total BS.

[@Jaypes1]

It's about the design of the specific mechanism and combination of electrical components which is original and patentable. Leonardo Da Vinci did not 'come up' with the idea for the helicopter - you have no evidence to show he is the first and that he didn't get the idea from someone else. Also, I can have an idea for a machine which cures cancer but until I build it and prove it's concept, and focus my patent on the specific parts of that machine which are my own, it's all pointless.

[@paulosullivan3472]

@@Jaypes1 Whether he was the first or not it is clear he developed the idea independently. Even if you dont accept that he developed the idea himself that clearly proves that the idea was not original when this patent was filed. All helicopters in use today use electric engines. All helicopters today use a rotary design as this does. If you can make some minor amendment and then patent it then how is any patent worth anything? If thats the case you can develop an idea and all I have to do is change one tiny element and file my own patent by your logic. If you develop your hypothetical idea for a cure for cancer and all I do is add a step and patent my own then its a useless system. If I cannot do that then how can something like this which is literally just a 500 year old idea be patented? They cannot both be true. The patent system is patently (lol) broken.

[@Jaypes1]

@@paulosullivan3472 You're missing the point. It's not about 'inventing' the helicopter. Not at all. It's about the specific rotor assembly which makes it move with propulsion in those four directions, up, down, left and right. That's it. Da Vinci did not invent that. Had he been able to design a working helicopter in the 1400's, he probably would have done. Also 'it is clear he developed the idea independently' is just your assumption. There are billions of ways in which Da Vinci may have come to do that sketch of a helicopter. Perhaps someone came to him and said 'I am an inventor but I cannot draw. I will explain this machine which I have dreamed of. Maybe you can draw it?' The possibilities are endless. Da Vinci's drawing of a helicopter does not show in any way, by any means, by any long shot in a billion years, that Da Vinci invented the steering system of a small electronic device which came centuries after his death. You're welcome.

[@Jaypes1]

@@paulosullivan3472 also, if I invented a cure for cancer and patented it, you wouldn't be able to copy my process and add a little extra on and apply for a patent. You would need to legally access my patent (which of course I would deny you, even if you were terminally ill). I think you're a bit confused about the process of patenting and why it takes so long to complete. There are all sorts of legal connundrums and rebuttals because it is not always objective which concept is susstantially different from another. That's why it's complex. You wouldn't reinvent the rotor assembly and paint it blue, or black, or spit on it, and claim to have invented anything.

[@paulosullivan3472]

@@Jaypes1 So to clarify are you of the opinion that helicopters prior to this toy were not capable of moving in all four directions? I can assure you they can. As for Da Vinci we have his drawings showing his steps developing the idea. The famous drawing is his last but he developed a large number of flying machines, he was obsessed with them. In any case my point is that the design of a helicopter is 500 years old. Da Vinci didnt have a way of producing enough power for his, it took the development of engines several hundred years later to provide that power. Whether he built a working version or not is irrelevant though, you can patent things without a working version. You can patent things which dont even work. You seem to be missing the point that this toy does nothing that already existing helicopters do. All he has done is taken existing technology and patented it as a toy as if making it a toy is "new". It isnt.

[@mscynthia9412]

Excellent advise - best of luck to this creative, motivated young man

[@sheslying7117]

He grew up to be a scam artist

[@prowlus]

10:29 Is he gonna use that excuse for the reason his md4 drone has been delayed for over 3 years ?

[@justinbaker9880]

Was anyone else hoping when he revealed 'helicopter car' that he was going to pitch for making the real thing?

[@ankitgeorge9554]

My disappointment is immeasurable

[@vernonkerswell654]

@@grahamsterling105 We have had three successful models prior to 4, the new model is on the way but production has been delayed because of COVID-19

[@jamesb2632]

@@vernonkerswell654 Not true, it was delayed before COVID-19...another lie Vernon!

[@jamesb2632]

July 2019 was supposed to be when it initially shipped! MAybe you should go back and ready your update #9! SO AGAIN YOU ARE LYING BY BLAMING COVID-19, it was already delayed before this!

[@grahamsterling105]

@@vernonkerswell654 Unfortunately not. Micro Drone 4 was already in delay the year before, well before the then corona virus occurred in March 2020. If that’s not an easy truth to handle, why not search among the 20,000 comments from other backers on the Indiegogo Micro Drone 4 page for corroboration? The truth is out there.

[@seanhealymusic7383]

Summer crash course in Mandarin and he knows enough to discuss details of manufacturing products?

[@RantTheRetort]

Amazing that English University was too hard because he was dyslexic, but he can learn Mandarin in a few months 🤔

[@inlimboed91]

'They don't get bigger little than me.'

[@SiriusMined]

That would be patent infringement, not copyright.

[@grantdavis692]

The drama in these comments is every bit as good as the clip

[@TotallyNoCat]

Mhmm

[@ALEXMGFASHION]

It’s crazy that that you have to pay for a patent to sell a toy product that can fly up down left right! That should not be allowed to be patent

[@BrianOfAteionas]

Somebody's gonna have to explain to me what two marks away from first means. Tried looking it up. Totally lost.

[@danriaz9678]

University grades in the UK First 2:1 2:2 He was two points/marks off the highest grade.

[@grahamsterling105]

@@danriaz9678 A little more than two points...! www.indiegogo.com/projects/micro-drone-4-0-affordably-priced-under-200/x/3497289#/comments

[@mikejones-nd6ni]

Damn, Some get this kid some water

[@joshpreece7411]

Lunchtime - what’s everyone on?

[@mathiuseden9605]

-38 hours sleep hby

[@joshpreece7411]

@@mathiuseden9605 that’s pretty impressive I’m actually going for a chicken wrap but I’ll try -38hrs sleep sometime

[@mathiuseden9605]

@@joshpreece7411 I'll definitely have get a chicken wrap

[@Reebus_]

Fishfinger sandwich as it's Friday.

[@joshpreece7411]

@@Reebus_ getting to Friday definitely deserves a lunch like that 🙌🏻

[@mikedrennen7971]

Made a bit of profit off of drop shipping some Chinese toys, rode the wave of toy helicopters, then simple drones, the latest pitch (January 2019) being a competitor of DJI on Indiegogo with "micro drone 4.0". Almost two years later, after completely overpromising and the clever marketing lies, the selling false promises has caught up to him. I think he had good intent, but the bloke was brought down by an ego the size of mainland China itself. Unable to admit any truths, he's now arguing that everyone who speaks honestly is wrong and his words were "correct at the time."

[@grahamsterling105]

“‘When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I chose it to mean - neither more nor less. … The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master - that’s all.’” - Lewis Carroll, “Through the Looking Glass”

[@RobertLeather]

A good summary. And another year where he’s consistently lied about delivering the drone.

[@sorrenblitz805]

I'd be all for it if it were a legit Car-o-Copter.

[@RantTheRetort]

Update on Vernon Kerswell's "business" Jan 2019- Drone is approved for production, delivery in June 2019. Nov 2019- Delivery in Jan 2020 Jan 2020- Delivery next month Dec 2020- Delivery in a few months Dec 2021- Delivery soon, close to completion May 2022- Delivery in 3 months September 2022- Going to China in December, everything is on track, doing more test runs. Vernon won't be producing a drone in 2022, August 2023 at earliest, if ever. Only 4 years AFTER he spent 3 years designing his drone. He still hasn't met his advertised characteristics. Still refuses refunds unless you take him to court.

[@jeremytravis360]

He deserves to do well, a talented young man with a creative mind.

[@grahamsterling105]

A wonderful sentiment indeed, so just how well is this guy doing now [mid November 2020]? www.indiegogo.com/projects/micro-drone-4-0-affordably-priced-under-200/x/3497289#/comments

[@daveiwhittle]

Ha, I know youi must be joking but still .... He certainly believes that he is talented but although his self belief has allowed him to scam money from people interested in technology his several failures will eventually mean that the game is up and he will fade away into obscurity where he belongs.

[@gabenvandenbrink9114]

@@grahamsterling105 Get a life, posting this everywhere

[@grahamsterling105]

@@gabenvandenbrink9114 Thanks for your support, it’s much appreciated

[@gabenvandenbrink9114]

@@grahamsterling105 No problem mate

[@Wanderers-Bulgaria]

Which is the company that has this locked patent in Europe?

[@Jaypes1]

Not necessarily a company. Could be the inventor who licences it.

[@davidmg1925]

The only thing is I think the you need to go backwards or forwards I don't see how you can do without that, Tt the markets he market search the sportsis saturated with things whoever said that was spot on right.

[@grahamsterling105]

Spot on, backwards it is then! www.indiegogo.com/projects/micro-drone-4-0-affordably-priced-under-200/x/3497289#/comments

[@humanpotatoes4958]

What a smart kid, good luck to him 👍

[@grahamsterling105]

Right: www.indiegogo.com/projects/micro-drone-4-0-affordably-priced-under-200/x/3497289#/comments

[@RantTheRetort]

Vernon, Bernie Madoff, and Enron, all things with a bright future 😆

[@dannyholmes5156]

3 buildings is a measurement of the kind of thing Jenny is rarely in seeing as she's always out

[@marks6663]

"vernon, that encounter moved in ALL directions." Oh, the brutality . . .

[@elmodiddly]

A car that can only go back and forward and a helicopter that can only go up and down and the only one that can actually fly properly is not even his product! Well, he wasn't exactly going to revolutionise the toy market was he!

[@bradleymilton9372]

Peter spoils it all