Do You Need a Dry-Lane Ball or a Urethane Ball? | Ballsplanations Ep.6

[@troyb9985]

As he said, most people don’t need a urethane ball on THS. But as a two hander, it can give me a very controllable shape. My highest games are the nights I bring the purple hammer along. That being said, on THS by game three it’s no longer useable. A lot of 10 pin leaves for the exact reason he said, no more energy at the pocket.

[@iras4vols1]

Straight and clean explanation. Thank you very much for it.

[@shelovet0mmy]

Bro commented 2 days ago on a video that dropped 22 minutes ago 😂😂

[@travishanson166]

That's the power of AI for ya lol

[@Smurfdog88]

Currently throwing a lefty drilled Hammer Blue Nu as a righty two hander bc the lanes have been hooking for league. Previous high was a 575 throwing mostly a hustle or hy road first time bowling with the Blue Nu I bowled a 658

[@smallreddoggy]

i dont have enough revs for it to matter 😅😅

[@kyleb5169]

An awesome video! Very good information!

[@bartolomy01]

Now you have a better quality video. I like the change. The lesson is also great! The misconception of people that they need urethane for dryer conditions.

[@mikelombard21]

Love these educational videos. Can't ask for better educators. Awesome teaching video as always. Love you guys. Great content.

[@J_ReidExpress]

Great video… very informative 🙌🏾

[@squidly2112]

Excellent video Mike !!! .. I have been preaching this kind of thing to some of my league partners. Basically asking them "why are you throwing urethane?" .. they don't know why, other than they see the pro's using urethane so they think they need to as well. They don't seem to understand the conditions where urethane is applicable and where it is not. I am really stumped why so many people throw urethane on house patterns. So often you see the urethane balls "stand up" way way too soon, being that they have completely exhausted their energy, transferring to the roll phase way too soon. Our house pattern where I play mostly, is about 42-43' .. and I see urethane balls getting to roll phase sometimes as early as 40' .. that is crazy! .. why would you continue to throw that ball? .. I just don't get it. Even worse, I see some league people still throwing urethane in the 3rd game when the fronts are dry as a bone, and by then their urethane balls have destroyed the dry space around the pocket, transferring oil to the areas where you want it to be dry. Frustrating at times.

[@Klingonmastr]

When I was looking for a spare ball I decided to go with a pearl reactive ball not one that was Urethane or Plastic. So I have Radical Ludicrous ball for heavy oil and then my second ball is pearl reactive for light to medium oil conditions. I never thought of buying a Urethane ball for dry lanes or house shots. I used to have and old Hammer Urethane ball but those ones from the 80's and 90's were much different.

[@horsefan3277]

Posting in case this helps anybody: I'm a lower-speed (13-14 MPH), medium-rev (350ish) bowler, and my league house changed owners early last season. Something changed and the lanes became MUCH higher-friction, to where I couldn't keep anything right of the head pin without throwing a 3rd-4th arrow "fade" shot and not having anything left when the ball reached the pins. Urethane worked for me in that situation. It kept things in front of me and allowed me to play my preferred 2nd-3rd arrow zone. My average has jumped 20-25 pins with an overseas Wild Streak Tour/U, and I've got an IQ Tour 78/U coming soon. However, that's far less of a "dry lanes" thing and more of a "combat super-high friction" thing.

[@savanadegroat8894]

You can complain about that…I used to bowl in ny and we didn’t change owners but the porter messed the lane machine up and messed the shot up and everyone in the league complained and wouldn’t touch the approach until he fixed all the lanes…and the owner made sure he did everyone he messed up that same night

[@mikelombard21]

You and Chris are some awesome educators. I love every single video you make where you are helping to teach. Genuinely you both make for amazing teachers. The wealth of knowledge you can offer is singular.

[@SuterBowling]

I heard "Columbus Square Bowling Palace" and I think my kneecap popped out of place. :x

[@jakewhitlock9100]

Columbus square is an awesome alley, got my first ball there

[@brooksa4579]

So many of these videos are made from the prospective of the higher rev (usually younger) player who needs to throw the ball across the lane (where most of the oil is) to hit the pocket. It would be nice if they gave examples of what these balls do for us old farts who are lower rev speed dominate players who often stand outside and play a straighter line down the outside close to the first arrow.

[@JSBowling2011]

Nice video Mikey! Can you tell me where you got your Roto Grip shirt, it’s great I’d like one like that. Do you have a link? Jim

[@tvbowlingsupply]

Apparel EFX! This one is just a golf polo that I’ve requested the logos be put on

[@JSBowling2011]

@@tvbowlingsupply thank you I appreciate that info I’ll try to look for it

[@zachchinn4608]

Great content. Question: what’s considered insane slow ball speed? I don’t throw it fast at all. Right around 14/15mph. Generally right in between there.

[@GencoupeCam]

14/15mph is pretty solid and about what most people throw. IMO a fast ball speed is 17/18mph and a slow ball speed to most people is 13mph and less

[@arthurguzman780]

Would a ball with the pin Rico drilling work on a short pattern?

[@scottythompson940]

Cool video talk tech bowling bowling ball

[@mikewrobel2881]

For how low a ball speed on screen might you recommend urethane on light volume house shot? Thanks!

[@mybowlingexcuses]

I tend to stay with a reactive, but go to a mid performance ball.

[@shanetoler9905]

My hammer effect is ruined after synthetic burn and a resurface job. It'll make a great spare ball. 😢😢

[@MotionSkater]

Would you throw a low diff ball like iq tour or tour dynamx on short patterns or would urethane be the better option

[@tvbowlingsupply]

Depends on a lot of variables! Lane surface, volume, type of oil, and most of all, the play style of the bowler!

[@MotionSkater]

Thanks, I’ll be having a sweeper at south point tournament plaza and the last 2 times I went the lanes hook early, urethane looked best for me but then again I didn’t have any low diff balls. So hoping the iq tour would be a good purchase.

[@decadude8968]

I use mainly two balls. A plague pearl, and a Mix. Both urethane. I have about 400 rpm at 14-14.5mph ball speed. Most of the centers around me always have lower volume conditions and for me, reactive balls are just too hard off the spot, even sanded, for me to control. Which is why i use urethane, because i need more control of the friction in the middle and end of the lane. When i had a pitch black i had it polished so it wasn't so early digging, but the fact that it was still urethane made it more controllable off the end of the pattern. For anyone who is rev dominant, you can use urethane on a THS and be fine.

[@Itssteve1994]

Another great video!!!

[@tophatspider6470]

lol you can see me bowling in the background, guy in the white shirt and black pants

[@ripvanrevs]

I was a few lanes down a couple times at Holiday when they were filming. Can see my ball go down the lane.

[@spiderico00]

If you were to bowl on the short pattern but could not use urethane, what would be some suggestions? Ball, layout, surface.

[@tvbowlingsupply]

Depends on the lane surface and a number of other factors, but it’s typically good to start with strong covers to try to read in the oil, or using a lot of surface on a low diff ball.

[@spiderico00]

Cheetah, high friction center, 425 rev rate one handed righty, high track. @@tvbowlingsupply

[@shanetoler9905]

I've been here for 3 days waiting to post a comment. 😊

[@nordattack]

I would have liked to seen you get lined up with the Fast Pitch on the house shot to show how urethane can be used on house. "Modern" urethanes generally can have issues on house shots because the coverstocks are so super strong and read the lane so early. But Vintage urethane was designed in an era when there was much less oil, typically a max of 7mL. So you might actually be able to say "vintage urethane" is a dry lane ball.

[@ripvanrevs]

I was just throwing my 1990s Columbia The Beast against my newer Hustle Wine. The Wine was 5-7 boards stronger. The Beast looked more like urethane than reactive. My Hyped Hybrid was another 5-7 stronger than the Hustle.

[@SealofPerfection]

100% correct. "Vintage" urethane was mostly designed for the original "Short oil" patterns of the 80's, which was like 24 feet. So back then, (I was working for a pro shop) nearly every new ball claimed it "Went farther and hooked harder". And they were all shiny. The dull ones were for the 40' PBA patterns or no-rev bowlers, but the vast majority were shiny "goes longer/hooks harder" balls. So if you still had one of those...it'd probably be useless on today's oil, honestly, unless you rev the snot out of it. Something like an old Firebolt SO or a red pearl Hammer, would nearly be a spare ball today, most likely.

[@nordattack]

@@SealofPerfection I currently use three vintage urethane balls on house shots with amazing success. My Brunswick Grizz. Grey Rhino and the mighty Cobalt Rhino, strongest of the pancake Rhinos. I shot 267 on house with the Cobalt slow rolling it up 8 board. I only have a 90-110 rpm rev rate. High revs are definitely not needed to make urethane work on house. If you are interested you can see these three balls in action on my channel. Videos #133, #141 and #156.

[@justinkolodziej5695]

"I don't see how this strikes" *X on scoreboard

[@mauricerogers1980]

Laughing at the fact Mickie jump in Chris’s video and Chris jump on mike for the merch drop

[@mattwilliams5584]

I'm here looking for a 3rd game ball to replace my game 1 and 2 urethane lol.

[@GranPepo]

You need to explain things like "read the front part of the lane" if this is geared towards beginners, it's not really explained like that at all

[@sedley2567]

I found this video hard to understand. What exactly is a “dry lane” ball. What material, surface, polish, core … ?

[@E30Benny]

How much weaker is the electrify vs the Hustle M-M?

[@tvbowlingsupply]

Hustle cover seems just a touch stronger, so not by much but still noticeable

[@amandabright432]

I threw my first 300 game with my urethane on a house shot 😅

[@34e321]

It's all response times. Hrmm let's control 28 foot with a low dif weak cover ball. Good luck.😅

[@tvbowlingsupply]

Pretty much!

[@xxkiller-strike6467]

First view 🎉💯

[@Tcrror]

People are just using that "100" emoji for anything now.

[@josephscarpino6100]

Time traveler😂

[@videll7kelly]

Thought you was going to recommend a dry lane ball or drill

[@IyunToe]

How did blud comment 2 days ago...

[@denmanfite3156]

If someone asks about urethane vs low oil ball they definitely don't need urethane.

[@kevinhipps1236]

Aah no

[@eliteexposure5594]

Good video but Camera needs work, the pins are too blurry. Ask Darrens camera man for some tips 😂

[@poseym316]

No reason you need a urethane on a house shot.

[@JimBeard-l9t]

why not do this on a lane that is dry you did long and short that is not what the title says you were going to do sad

[@tvbowlingsupply]

@@JimBeard-l9t this was bowled on a house shot and a short pattern