Do you need to cure your soy candles? Is it BS or not?

I run a test on three different soy candles, burned at different dates to determine if curing makes a difference.
I burned one after 24 hours, five days and two weeks and the results are in!
Jars, fragrances, and wax used in this video are all from www.candlescience.com
Wooden wicks are from www.lonestarcandlesupply.com
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[@mylilattempts]

You're doing the Lord's work Stanley

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

Janettt 😁

[@traceelynn555]

lol he is!!! I started my business in 08 but stopped but moved to get back into it this year and he's been helping me so much with getting back in the groove!

[@sofiedimitriadis4591]

So right stand key spot on ? Based on tones of tests done new in this field I get great cold throw when low temperature and my soy wax s16 gets the smooth feeling on top better when pouring lower temp o go 43-45 which is 113 farenheight

[@swiftbear]

Been practicing the "lower the better " method for everything adding the FO , pouring, etc. when the majority of the candle community and companies been preaching all these ridiculous high temps for all phases of candle making. I always had problems at higher temps of hot throw, frosting etc. ...UNTIL I started lowering the temps, I swear at this point its a conspiracy to guard a secret and keep people from making candles lol

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

swiftbear Lol I thought the same thing! It just makes sense that you’d want to add at much lower temps

[@swiftbear]

I kindda suspected the 2 week cure time was BS too, but never got around to test that so thanks for posting this video. I can't believe there is so much misinformation out there about candle making.

[@chowder8802]

I agree with you. Candlewic guy gave me bad advice after I purchased wax from him

[@tinameakin4268]

swiftbear I’m having the exact same problem , I rang my supplier and asked for advice they told me to burn to 75c , add fo in at 70c then pour at 65 😩 I have no smell what’s so ever . I’m using eco soy Q210 . Any suggestions will be really appreciated 🙏🏼

[@Shindaroo]

I agree, all the candles I've made following standleys methods have came out great.super glad I found this guy 😎

[@sebastopolBotanicals]

Five years later in this video is still helping candlemakers. Thank you so much!

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

You’re welcome. I’m glad it’s still helping.

[@ed98027]

Nice video. I spoke with a buddy of mine he has a master degree in Chemistry. He doesn't believe there's any point of curing a candle. in his words: " I don't think there is some chemical binding between the fragrance oils and wax, there is no covalent bond being formed, it is only present homogeneously in the solution, and then a physical process occurs (wax hardening). So in my opinion (without doing any research on the subject), there is no impact by letting the wax cure. Therefore, I don't think you need to do the curing step for 2 weeks."

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

Edward Yen Thank you! That was my exact though on this subject.

[@MrBenkyoushimashou]

I hate to drag chemists, but I'm not sure chemists really understand the mechanism at play for these sorts of things and how they impact the organoleptic (smell) qualities of solutions like these. I've heard similar stories from chemists regarding curing of perfume oil blends and also the curing of recently-distilled essential oils. The chemists don't seem to recognize or believe any chemical process that would impact organoleptics, but almost any perfumer will swear by it. As someone who designs fragrances myself, I know that curing a oil/diluent mixture after dilution totally has an impact, especially in the way top/middle/base notes are projected. Chemically no new bonds might be forming, but physically, there seems to be *something* that is happening that affects its smell.

[@kheilawarheart]

@@MrBenkyoushimashou I'm confused about how you're differentiating chemically to physically? No there's no molecular restructuring/bonding going on with "curing" a candle. But apparently letting them sit for a few days allows the still liquid fragrance oils to "more evenly disperse throughout the wax" - quoted from a different maker from a video i watched 10 minites ago. I dont really see how that would work either, seeing as the liquid fragrance molecules are trapped within their solidified continuous. If they were to disperse via time curing, wouldn't it just sink? So confusing. I'd also like to add that blending fragrances and allowing those to sit is a different thing than homoginising an already made fragrance within a solid continuous. But I do agree with you in that my signature perfume, which I blend using essential oils, absolutely "matures" with age and needs to sit for a few weeks to reach it's true identity. When it's fresh, it's crisp with definitive layers. After a few weeks the scent comes together and pretty much becomes it's own smell. That I cannot explain! So weird!

[@EbonyJones1979]

I'm brand new to candle making. Your videos have been so informative and helpful. Keep doing what you're doing 🤗

[@cumby1993]

Thank you for the excellent advice! It makes so much sense! I'm testing 2 candles now and they have very strong hot throw after 1.5 hours of burning and 30 hours after making them. They also don't have sink holes and I poured them with no special insulating props. With the old technique, the hotter one, I also had the fragrance sink to the bottom. I'm going to apply this advice to soap making as well. Thank you so much!

[@melissadunnam6386]

You always provide great content, Jeff! Thank you!

[@keepyoukompani]

Your videos is ALWAYS informative. Thank you so much for your candle wisdom Standley 💕

[@tenneciatyndale6117]

Hey Stanley I have found your channel very helpful over the years and I appreciate all the effort you put in to put it 😊this information.

[@travismeccariello]

Very helpful video. Thanks so much. I’ve been having issues with sink holes and enjoyed your video on that as well. I have been adding my oil to wax when it is way too hot. I appreciate you explaining why things work the way they do instead of just assuming we know. Subscribed!

[@tameikawilliams1172]

I'm so glad you did this video. It trumped the myths I heard about allowing it to cure for 1-2weeks. Thanks 👍🏽

[@mamber1974]

I am really enjoying your videos, I have been curing my 464 FOREVER and I m glad to see it is not necessary.

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

mamber1974 I used to give them two weeks and never thought it did much. I had to test this finally. Lol

[@analuciafrasinelli5321]

Hi! What a relief to hear about pouring at low temperatures. I've been taught this way but then I've seen many videos from USA or European candle makers and many of them pour the oils at 180degrees. So, at the beginning I thought it had to do with different type of raw materials, different soy wax. Anyway, it's all about testing. Hi from argentina!

[@DaShin0]

Thank you for dispelling this!

[@Jasmination21]

Great video as usual! Thank you, can't wait to get my first order of supplies to start experimenting again.

[@BrightSparkIdeas]

Another excellent video, helping to narrow down the process.

[@wigbabes1918]

Thank you for the video! This was exactly what I was looking for. Very helpful and informative. :)

[@elusiveillusion1723]

I learned more about candle making then just curing time length.

[@roniidee6011]

Thank you for this video. I've just started out making my own candles for myself, great information 😊

[@susanf6230]

Very interesting! Thank you for sharing your testing and knowledge. Very much appreciated. 👍😃

[@bosslikeattitude]

Great video. I've found that the cold throw seems to get better with longer cure time. I will definitely test adding at the lower temp. Thanks again...appreciated😊

[@MeditationsbyNancy]

Soooo helpful. My adventures are beginning tonight.

[@TheGhettosistahs]

Omg thank you for this. This is going to save me soo much time. 🙏🏾

[@tuppstyle2011]

I love how detailed and helpful your videos are. Thank youa

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

Thank you so much, I am glad they're helping people.

[@appylover5283]

Totally agree , I have the best scent throw at low temps

[@Michelleover50]

Great informative video Jeff!

[@donnamccarron927]

Wanted to say thank you for all the great videos and advice!

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

Donna McCarron You’re welcome and thank you!

[@934brandi]

I just want to say thank you. I’m a beginner. Best video I’ve seen.

[@amysea1]

Thanks very much!! saves a ton of time! (im making essential oil soy candles and had a varied result with my candle scents, so this video really helps!)

[@jordantalks77]

Thank you so much for doing this for us! I use 464 and was so confused with all of it this helps me so much! :)

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

Thank you for watching, I'm glad it helped. :)

[@cynthiawilliams3335]

Hello who do you buy 464 from?

[@believer1338]

@@cynthiawilliams3335 Candlewic gives best price

[@jamiesullivan2512]

Thank you so much for this video. Very helpful for me.

[@melissarodd4518]

Great video! Thanks for the test.... i am new to candle making and burned one after two days.... it smelled great but needed a. Larger candle for the room i had it in.

[@devbachu7072]

You a chap my bro u must thank u alot for all you help an information

[@Lovelymadee_]

i have tried that method and all the candles had the same effect of being heavy frosted, indented and sweat. I like adding my fragrance at 160 and pour at 140 i get smooth top every time.

[@lozzawhite858]

You can use a hair dryer or heat gun to fix the tops ☺️

[@francescal2247]

Thank you for this comment! I’ve been trying to get down the right temperatures and still haven’t quite mastered it. The top always caves a little bit. I’m gonna try this!

[@infinitusCR]

Be sure to stir one last time just before pouring, smooth tops everytime

[@believer1338]

Absolutely right . thanks for confirming it ....

[@rajendrasinghchauhan]

Thank you Standley Handcrafted.The instructions for the soy wax I bought tells me to melt the wax at 200 deg F and add fragrance oil at this temperature.The pouring temp.recommended was 190 deg F.I made my first candle.I can smell the scent but can't really tell if the scent would be strong if the fragrance was added at lower temp.I would try adding fragrance at lower temp.and see the difference.Thank you Standley once again.You are absolutely amazing.

[@jantellfowler7070]

Awesome video I'm just starting out and this video was very helpful. I've just subscribed to your channel

[@darrelllewissr9413]

Thanks I've been watching your videos for about a week and my daughters and I are going to make our first candle. Thanks so much your videos are awesome

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

Thankyou and good luck with the first one! :)

[@Sarah-hk2hh]

I just tried out two candles, one I poured with hot temp and the other low. Both with 8% of fragrance oil. I feel the candle with lower temp of oil added is stronger. Thanks for this video!!

[@cassandrawycko5170]

This is so AWESOME! Thank you!

[@virginiaarg2492]

Very informative...as always! ❤️

[@flexingfate-of8xi]

Thank you made my first soy candle today. This was helpful. Thank you .

[@chloem2016]

I haven’t watched yet but I am so excited for this video! Edit: I have had the same experience with my candles!! I usually let them cure for 48 hours-likely out of superstition-and I don’t notice any difference letting them cure for longer. If you take requests, I would love to see a video on shipping. I have not yet sold my candles online because I have anxiety over candles breaking in the mail. Great video as always!

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

:)

[@Ghgdsh]

When you cure are you supposed to leave it open are can you close the candle

[@debrapouliot630]

Great video as always. Very informative. 👍🏻

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

Debra Pouliot Thank you!

[@caraaddison6720]

This is amazing. THANK YOU!

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

Thank you :)

[@aubreyintuitive888]

Lol this is awesome my first batch I made I was going from memory and accidentally added the oil at 135 and the ht is amazing, been wondering about the 180-185 ever since. I did cure for about 10 days but will start testing sooner. So glad I don't have to wait as long 🤗

[@okcjswag]

I just made my first test candle and let it cool til about 130-140. 8oz jar with about 3 drops per ounce of FO. Thank you for your video

[@Jennifer83]

Some fragrances do need a cure time to fully bond with the wax for a good cold throw especially. It also depends on the brand of soy wax. I let my candles cure for a week and I most definitely notice a difference with the cold scent throw. Hot scent throw is the same either way in my experience too. I do use a different brand than you do though. And I always stir for 2 minutes to ensure a good bonding to begin with.

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

JiasJewels I would agree for the most part, I’m still testing different fragrances to see which ones work this low.

[@fancymonroe9231]

@@StandleyHandcrafted wher me can i get premier 745 wicks?

[@kristineverett8231]

@@fancymonroe9231 american candle supply has them!

[@3dcandlecreationsgiftshop916]

Thank you for your help!

[@NanoScaperYT]

Man seeing the GaryVee book in the background makes your whole make sense! I've thought to myself many times "This guy is amazing, he's really just giving away all the best advice" it's nice to see someone actually following Gary's rules for business, you've certainly got a viewer for life with me!

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

Thank you so much and I love Garyvee!!

[@mrkngkhan]

Great video! I'm new to candle making and have been watching your videos to get a better understanding of why I don't get a good scent throw and I believe it is because I add around 180. Quick question about wooden wick, where do you think I should start for a 2.9" diameter mason jar? I've tested so many eco's and don't get the scent throw at all, minimal if at all. I'll have to retest with adding oil at a much lower temperature to see if that makes a difference. Thanks!

[@havealot2say]

8/12/18 was my 40th birthday so I am sure that one was the best of the bunch!

[@teonniemitchell4328]

Thank you for the video. This has worked great for me!

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

TEONNIE MITCHELL thank you. 🙂

[@traceywalker3243]

this is such a great video! A lot of questions I had were answered. Thanks for being so clear. I tried to mix my fragrance around 118-120 degrees . Waited about 24 hours and it had a decent scent throw. I could smell it in my bathroom but wish it was a bit stronger. I added 1 oz of soy friendly CS fragrance to 1lb of 464 soy wax. I am definitely going to try at least 1.5oz of fragrance to a 1lb of wax.. do you think adding 1.8oz of fragrance is too much?

[@Rosemary-gc4gk]

I use 464 and melt to 180, mix in my fragrance and color right away, stir for 2 minutes and pour. I have very smooth tops then. And great scent throw with almost all fragrances. I only use a 6% load so I don’t get sweating on top. I think you can overload candles with fragrance oils. I have found some scents do get stronger after time though it does depend on the fragrance.

[@laken1804]

Great tips. Thanks!😎💟

[@lindsay-janegoldring2134]

I always leave my soy wax till it's nearly cloudy before adding my oils I find it makes a much better candle but that's my opinion X I have now also gone to flat wicks

[@donnamosqueda1046]

I use 464 and have noticed that with a longer cure my scent changes and I can smell the blend of fragrances better. I have an earl grey and apple blend and at first I can smell the apple but after two weeks it changes and I can smell the tea in it. Have you noticed anything like that?

[@pineapple_coconuts3459]

Denver loves you !!!!!!

[@danamoreland3547]

Hi Stan. Love watching your videos! They’ve been very helpful as I am new to candle making. Can I ask where you got your thermometer from? I have the same pouring pitcher and would like to try temp checks with this type of thermometer before pouring. Thanks again!

[@candlechef6786]

Great video! I think one of the best I have watched for soy wax!! Question on your opinion to get a great hot throw. How many ounces of scent should I add on 8 ounces of wax, and 10 ounces of wax. Keep up the great channel and information!!!

[@eliNostalgica]

I absolutely love this video info ❤ thanks for sharing ❤ now I wonder what room temperature should it be I was testing with this wax during the winter and my candles went all wrong and I felt completely frustrated 😢 I'm going to use all this information for the future actually for this weekend that I'm going to be testing. Thanks 🙏

[@sueannchism1128]

Great information 👍🏻

[@mimisauconnor8153]

Your videos are extremely helpful

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

Thank you do much, I am glad they're helping

[@mimisauconnor8153]

You did all the problem shooting for us lol

[@splatrick6931]

Awesome video man! Glad I found you, I’m a newb working on my 3rd batch. Using beeswax/coconut oil and only using pure essential oils vs fragrance oils at the moment. Particularly volatile ones (lavender, peppermint, citrus, etc), which generally dont give off a ton of scent, but any recommend temp for the scent throw and the pour?

[@Candylandavenue1]

Thank you for this! I made my first batch of candles last weekend & added the fragrance at 180 like everything I researched told me to do....and yea...my house smelled great all night, but the candles were boo boo when I went to burn them! 😂 Lesson learned! Subscribing to your channel now! Thanks!

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

Amber Sepulvado That’s awesome and thank you!

[@MIECE]

Thank goodness. Somebody says this. I always wait until my wax temp is down to 55c to 60c.

[@donniebocco9325]

Thank you for making these videos you helped alot of people, what videos do you have as far as using beeswax, would love to check them out thinking about trying my hand with it

[@karinadangelo9305]

I add the fragrance lower temperature I get very good results too When I did as per candle science say I didn’t get a candle w strong scent So definitely I agree to get a stronger scent when I add the fragrance lower temperature Totally agree w u

[@pamweezie]

Hey, Jeff, can you do a video or talk about adding botanicals to a candle. I was advised not to because it would "choke the wick". Is there anything that I can do to prevent choking the wick. I wouldn't add a lot of botanicals but want to for certain purposes. I would be using the paraffin/soy wax. I am a new candle maker. Thanks so much for your videos. They are so helpful.

[@chocolatebutterfly9295]

Great video! How long should the candles be stored before selling to the customers. For example, can I make the candles a week in advance before I sell them?

[@ItsJenlaforteza]

Thank you for sharing. When is the best time to fix sink holes with a heatgun is it after 24 hrs when the wax is completely solidified or after the 3 days curing time?

[@SoyandShea]

I have found some scents do benefit from a cure time - not in terms of hot throw but in cold throw - which is what can initially sell a candle. For example Frost and Snowdrops from NG does develop a stronger cold throw if left for a week but its hot throw is the same at anytime. When I first added to the range it didn't sell, but after a couple of weeks, people could then smell it and it sold.

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

Soy and Shea I get a nice cold throw after I add the lids. Usually a day or so it really comes out.

[@girlycurlyfries1018]

What is cold throw please

[@blackqueen5617]

GirlyCurlyFries 101 the scent of the candle before it’s burned. Hot throw is the scent while burning.

[@judymcdowe-webb9776]

Thanks for the information 👌

[@lotus8285]

I use soy 464(currently) & I add my fragrance at around 165-170, whisk for a full 2 mins, & pour into my vessel at 125. I’ve gotten a perfect candle each time & no tunneling(when I was using para 6006) thank you for sharing your tips, I love seeing ideas & methods from different candle creators. I’m gonna create a candle today using your method, to see what I get. I’ll come back with a review in a week.

[@lotus8285]

I allowed a 2 day cure & it was still amazing!

[@kiiatri]

I make hot process soap and I'm starting to make candles. For hot process soap, I always add my fragrance around 140F to prevent burnoff. You can tell when a fragrance is burning off because you'll smell it a lot in the air. For candles, I don't see why this would be any different. I'll do testing, but I'm likely to stick to adding fragrance to my soy candles at 140F or less as well. Adding fragrance at 160F or higher sounds like a waste to me as I've always had burnoff at those temperatures in my soap.

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

LollygagSmith That’s exactly why I started to add the oil at much lower temps

[@mb271]

Thanks for this video. I've been adding at the recommended 185° with 464. I am definitely gonna try 130-110°. Will post my results🙂

[@kayycayy1371]

Hi!! I just came across your post, do you mind me asking what your results were? (If you remember)

[@l.a.intexas7649]

Thanks for this video very helpful. I also watched your video when you used the IGI6006 I think, but the HTP wick you recommended did not do much, I did view candle science and they recommend ECO 2. What do you think? Have you used the 444? thx

[@sofiaoliver580]

Thank you so very much this is a big help to a newbie :) I joined your FB group ..( Alexis Wylie :)

[@trailmix902]

When he said "it's 420, that's funny all on its own.." I had to like and subscribe

[@marilynmeyrueisgmail7138]

Thanks for your video. I'm french so please forgive my stupid question, but....what is exactly 464? I guess it's a type of soy wax but I can't find it here in France. Anyway, I use soy wax as well usually pour my fragrance round 65° Celsius which should be 150° F and directly pour it in the jar after stiring. I let them cure less than one week and depending on the fragrances the results are quite different...I never heard the term "cure a candle before", I don't even know how to say it in french, but I thought that waiting a liitle before burning would make the candle burn slower...that was not a matter of scent, could you tell me more about it? Thanks for your help

[@vuilkreng]

Thank god it doesn't make much of a difference, I made my first ever batch of scented soy candles yesterday (a little over 24 hours ago) and I can't wait to try them

[@richardbaker2300]

Do you or have you ever put the lid on your candles as soon as you have poured? Or perhaps after some clouding and slight adhesion? If so; what was the result? Thanks for all of your videos. Very informative and well produced 👍🏼

[@clovertarot2014]

Hi! Thanks so much for your video! I have a question, if you’re doing this method do you have to heat the wax all the way to 185° and let it drop or can you heat until it’s fully melted and then let it cool until 110° to add the FO?

[@tru2love610]

When I first starting making candles I didn’t even know what curing was so of course I never did it. I think the longest I’ve ever cured was a couple of days, noticed no difference so I don’t really cure longer than a day or 2

[@ashleighhamilton3855]

Have you tried this test on other waxes like the blend you mentioned in other videos? Great video. Answered alot of my questions. I am looking to try vanilla and/or rose oil. I am using essential oils does this change the amount of oil needed per pound?thank you

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

No it would be about the same. Essential oils don't work as well but it would be the same.

[@katherinetavera4088]

Hello your info is so helpful. Do you always test in the bathroom? I test mine in the living room and they do not fill the room my espectectations are high lol

[@Vanessa2775]

Hi Stanley! ur video was really help but im still confused... i have started making candles and im using soy wax.. i want to give the candles to my family/friends so how long should i let them cure before giving it away... my candles was harden in few hours and i can smell them but should i light them now or wait for few days or a week to let them cure... OR can i tell my family/friends not to lighten the candles for a week? which one do you recommend for me? THANKS.

[@believer1338]

Thank you for this great tip. But how do we know which scents are pro-soy wax ? There are hundreds of them.

[@janiceh3995]

Why do you have to heat it to 180 first, as it has already melted totally when it’s about 120

[@melissabutler5251]

Thank you for sharing.

[@paultheseer]

I’m not getting the hot scent throw with 464 I like the finish I’m getting every time but even after following your video to wait for a lower temp to add the fo it’s still not happening. Would adding in another wax help if so what would you suggest .. love your videos been so helpful

[@bigmonkeymeat8760]

Would you say this is the same for melts? I’m using eco soya pillar blend adding 12% FO and my ht is rubbish. I’ve added at high and low temps. I feel like I must be doing something wrong

[@brentosbrands4179]

Hi great videos , can I mix 464 with paraffin wax to a more smooth candle? I also notice that my bath and body candles 14.5oz solidifies more quicker than my 464 soy wax how is that?

[@pamkirk1607]

Thank you so much.

[@vintagelove2732]

Hi. Does it matter which type of soy wax you use? I use 464 and add FO @ 185° F. My candles usually have a pretty decent scent throw but depending on which type of FO I use the scent sometimes smells a bit stifled.

[@karenleslie7058]

Thank you. I feel like I wasted about 50 pounds of GW464 by pouring fragrance at 185!! Crap I'll try the lower temp frag add batch. Please tell what wax or blend to make modes votive candles or do a video. I want to make molded votives, candles pulled out of the mold but don't know what wax to use and should I use votive pins? Can you do a video? I was told I could use GW tart and melt wax but they are not coming out of the molds. Thanks

[@creativewanderers6445]

I’ve attempted this a night ago, and my candles heavily frosted at the tops. Do you usually get smooth tops with this method or do you have to fix your tops? I too use fragrances and wax from candle science but I found that pouring at 130 is the sweet spot to eliminating the frosted tops but scent throw can vary.

[@kerrinatana3433]

Thank you so much for this video! I have been using 464 for a couple months now and have not yet got a good throw from my candles 😣 I am going to try these temperatures and see how I go 😊

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

I would love to hear how it goes for you.

[@miosustentable3187]

Did you try with two or more wicks? That makes your candles hotter with strongest throw. Sorry for my English, I'm from Argentina.

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

Mio Sustentable I have only done the test with this set up so far. This jar won’t take two wicks.

[@lianadibiase6841]

Hi I have a question I used your low temp method: Melted soy wax @ 82 degrees Celsius Removed and stirred every minute then added fragrance at 42 d Celsius what am I doing wrong my scent throw is not ok but not great