Do You Really Need A Clutch Derailleur? | Clutch Vs Non-Clutch Mech Comparison

[@bergerniklas6647]

Funny how Doddy talks about noise half the time but the editor decided to throw music over it so we couln't hear any of it.

[@mtbbros964]

Yh

[@sigmaoctantis_nz]

Exactly what I was thinking lol

[@plmn93]

Complete incompetence. I mean how do you even do that unless you are completely oblivious to what the video is about?

[@BobBmxRid3r]

If there would be some decent music in the first place lol

[@MarcWdives]

I can not watch a video with 1 minute of content, with 4 minutes of someone riding. This video was not that bad.

[@johnwardle9667]

Incredible how that old chain setup sounds like a hip hop instrumental..

[@flippinsteel2352]

Best comment award winner 👏 🏆

[@diviscadilek1764]

Sounds like a shopping cart full of pots and pans.

[@csn583]

Good thing he strapped on that metal bit!

[@ninovagus1297]

Read the comment befor watching the video, was excited to here the chain do a rim shot. Then Doddy started to ride with the "old" setup und the thought of your comment hit me like a truck. Hillarious!

[@scootmccracken]

Doddy: I put this piece of metal so you can hear how loud it is Producer: nah

[@andrewallan3244]

chains only fall off when you let your mate try your bike for 30 seconds

[@slooriginal1727]

True lol

[@Hasio-Maszkietnik]

That is why I never give my bike to my friends

[@Frankson909]

happened yesterday to me LOL

[@mtnbikerva1]

That was stupid putting music overtop of being able to hear chain slap.

[@Bv1nte]

because it wasnt that bad:/ he also had to pedal back to drop the chain...xD

[@furyxvanity2946]

Puts stuff on so people who only use modern day expensive derailleurs and chainrings can hear how it sounds to not have all that luxury parts, then the stupid editor puts damn music over every test

[@samb2334]

Fury XVanity about a month ago I had a 3x9 coil entry level hardtail but sold it. Now I’ve joined the dark side with a full squish gx 1x12. What a difference to not hear a stupid chain rattling, you know what they say, a quiet bike is a fast bike!! Saved up all year for it as I’m only 14

[@nicolae3657]

@@samb2334 i am doing the same thing but i had a old full suspension 3x8 i i am going for a hardtail that is 1x10

[@nicolae3657]

@@samb2334 bdw, i am only 14 too lol

[@user-yq2tq5eo4u]

@@nicolae3657 Im 14 too,but Im not gay like you,I run 1x7 dh setup

[@HighVybeTribe]

@@samb2334 Good job ! Now you can enjoy the fruits of your labor with your upgraded bike !

[@Northstar-Media]

It's more impressive that he disassembled/assembled his crank in the middle of a field & used a tree as bike lift 😁

[@Mesa3077Boogie]

I can remember bashing my knees on my tubes so many times back in the day from dropping chains. Dropping chains literally shaped the way I rode and it took a long time to break those habits when I finally changed bikes in 2018. Thankful for the narrow wide

[@307.William]

I have an 8in scar on the back of my calf just above my Achilles’ tendon. Chain came off peddled real hard with no resistance, foot slipped and chainring went through the leg. I’m glad we’ve all moved on 😊

[@noliemig]

Same bikes are painful 🤣

[@allyw7405]

I remember having to coast through the rough stuff and even then may require soft pedal gear change before finally stopping to reattach the chain. Clutch is such a game changer..

[@CanonFirefly]

Microshift Advent X 10sp groupset is a great budget alternative to the more expensive Shimano and SRAM set ups.

[@vtecmossy]

Shimano ain't that expensive to be fair unless ur getting xtr

[@thebmtbchanel6531]

I have a microshift 11 speed

[@thebmtbchanel6531]

@@vtecmossy not cheap for evryone tho...

[@thebmtbchanel6531]

Microshift is best buget drivetrain

[@JustAGlitchFL]

I personally think NX or GX Eagle is the right balance between price and performance.

[@scottcampbell10]

“No wonder riding off-road often sounded like pushing a tool cabinet down a flight of stairs” 😂😂

[@markopavsek3189]

For those who are wondering: just watch Home alone 2.

[@enrico8655]

@@markopavsek3189 Thats what i was thinking too

[@daverts]

Go belt drive too, or throw in an internally-geared hub too. Love my Gates drive gravel rig.

[@ericconn7913]

@@markopavsek3189 Christmas is coming!

[@JoshGlessner]

Editor: Agh, this riding footage audio is unusable because of all the chain slap.

[@johnlangley6679]

Great video - one of the many helping me catch up on 20 years of MTB innovation. I can't wait to get my hands on a new bike!

[@markstorer7204]

Back in the day I used a Mr. Crud DCD...... never lost a chain, even on a 3x crank set.... great bit of kit 👌

[@dag1704]

5 weeks ago my clutch broke, because somehow moisture got into it and it rusted to death. Replacementparts are available in about 10 weeks. Pulled the clutch out, deraillior worked again, even without clutch. 2 rides after I made the derailiour work again, my frame broke. This riding season starts good :D

[@dhdoctors]

Maybe suitable for XC hard tail. You should talk about what the clutch mech does to your suspension. And narrow/wide will not hold your chain when things get rowdy, so I still run a 'One Up' top guide with bash, and leave the clutch OFF!

[@jongoverthebars3572]

Im using my old front derailleur as a chain guide works good

[@noliemig]

Ayy good idea

[@lanaholmes7098]

@jongoverthebars3572 how is that working? Guess that's what I'm going do put it on medium ring set derealer as chain guard

[@johnchristopher5075]

18 months ago, I brought a entry level Giant Fathom E+3 29er which came with a conventional (all in one) chainring and a non clutch Deore 9 speed derailleur.. One the road, fireroads, towpaths and smooth single track, the combo worked perfect but the moment I took my bike off piste, all kinds of trouble came my way which started with poor shifting and ended with incredible chain suck. Three week ago, I finally got round to upgrading the entire drivetrain with a 10 speed XT derailleur, a 11-42T 10 speed Raceface Cassette and a Praxxis chainring with a narrow wide profile. Words cannot describe the utter transformation this as done to my bike.

[@mtbtom8845]

Clutch has been around for ten years and I still don’t have one 🤣

[@jakeb6703]

me too, cause my derailleurs been on my bike for 15 smh

[@bomber9032]

i have zee with clutch im riding mtb stunt killing the bike with the clutch or not it's the same thing for me

[@stormeporm]

I'm pretty sure most of the time the chain comes off from the top of the front chain ring not the bottom ( unless your backpedaling) . That's where the chain first engages with the chain ring and if it moves to much there it will miss a tooth and drop off. This is also where the narrow wide comes in to play, the wide tooth gives the chain less play to move left and right so the next link is less likely to miss. The clutch just keeps the chain tighter in the whole system, including the top part. Thats the bit that you should film in stead of the lower part of the chain. In the video you see the chain miss tooth on the bottom part of the chain ring, but as soon as you pedal that link looses its connection with the chain ring anyway. BTW if you dont pedal chances of your chain coming of are pretty low ( its not impossible I know and the new tech did improve this) When you'r riding single speed the bottom part of the chain is the important bit. When you dont have a derailleur the tooth of the rear cog are the most likely to miss the chain and they engage on the bottom part of the chain.

[@Icehso140]

Quick note...Check the clutch mech for grease b4 riding it for the first time. My Shimano came with very little if no grease and failed 2nd time out. Opennng it I actually saw rust spots. It takes a special grease so a little research will find you the right stuff. Great video again...as always.

[@wirenut3020]

The clutch itself doesn’t get grease or it won’t work. It’s friction based.

[@jw8968-z6g]

Chain (visually at least) looks to slap about practically the same amount in all set ups shown 🤔.

[@leovadon]

@@RealMTBAddict 1x is much simpler, so more reliable, solid and cheap. No real reason not to have it

[@timangus]

@@RealMTBAddict haha, do you just hate any tech improvement?

[@timangus]

@@RealMTBAddict your explanation wasn't there when I made my comment, only the (needlessly absolutist) initial reply. I see where you're coming from to an extent, but I think you're exaggerating the downsides.

[@Cous1nJack]

@@RealMTBAddict the chains are designed to work with wider chain lines. Modern bikes are not steam engines mate.

[@martonpeintlerkrivan8027]

@@RealMTBAddict depends on what you ride, for cross country it might make sense to have more gears up front but not for enduro or downhill. I never had a front derailleur that consistently worked for longer than a few weeks

[@timberbeastwaco]

forgive my stupidly , why not just use a chain guide on the top and bottom? on the bottom it would not only keep it on tooth but off the ground.

[@andyboy13]

I ordered an XTR shadow plus in May 2012, back when I worked in a bike shop. Didn't get it until the next summer! Probably says more about my riding habits than anything, but it's still going strong on my 2011 Reign 0!

[@kotelettschweiss7811]

I really have to thank you for comparing all of this. I myself have a regular chain ring (Shimano Saint) running on my bike without a chain guide, although with a clutch. Always got me frustrated when my chain dropped. Now thinking about getting a nw chainring

[@RichJ-nr1ho]

If you don't have a front derailleur, then yes for sure get a narrow-wide. There are off brands that sell them for like $10 USD

[@dionfernando9573]

I’ve been running a non clutch mech with narrow wide chainring and a chain guide. Never dropped a chain since

[@JustAGlitchFL]

Well if you have a chain guide, it is nearly impossible to drop a chain.

[@johnnygunz2300]

I'm glad it worked for you....I have a DJ mountain bike converted from a 2x8 to a 1x8. It dropped chains in it's original config and drops chains in the 1x8 running a narrow wide/chain guide (chain guide is cheapo and not great).

[@johndef5075]

Same here

[@ElevationEveryWeekend]

Agreed. After doing a ride on my 2014 Surly Pugs (no clutch) descending in the Rocky Mountains, the drivetrain was bouncing like crazy.

[@charlie9ine]

Hi Doddy. When I first looked at this title I admittedly thought it was going to be a bit boring. My apologies. It s really well put together and very interesting. I started riding in 2000 at the age of 44 in Madrid. I’ve ridden some pretty tough trails and loved mountain biking because it was a full contact sport. In all these years I have never dropped a chain. I’ve broken a couple. I never paid attention to the technology of clutches and narrow/wide all this time. I guess I’ve just ridden what I had. Thanks again for a really good article.

[@mgoo1713]

The Narrow/Wide ring with it's longer tooth profile is the biggest reason chains don't come off...I run clutch off on my hardtail...

[@OYeahan]

I have 1x8 system running with an old Alivio RD and cheap Chinese NW chainring and it's behaving really well. When the standard middle steel non-NW one was left, the chain was falling off when going of a small curb even when running 1x11 with Shimano M8000 RD.

[@BeerMatt96]

Loving my 52-42-32 3-by from the last century!

[@paulcass6484]

I use 1 x 9 xtr non clutch with a narrow wide chain ring up front and I've never had a chain drop yet.i made a chainstay protector and it's very quiet

[@stanley3647]

I use 1x10 non clutch (Sram X0) derailleur with narrow-wide oval ring and narrow-wide 14T bottom jockey wheel... No problem at all... No chainstay as well... I've got more chain drop with 2x10 setup!

[@johnlockwood367]

I have ridden a mountain bike for decades and never ripped off a rear derailleur UNTIL I got one with a clutch. Now, every Autumn when my local trails are full of leaves, sticks and twigs, I manage to get something jammed in the derailleur and yank it off. I wonder if the old clutch-less derailleurs were better able to shrug off and spit out the debris, whereas the modern clutch derailleurs offer more resistance and therefore more prone to damage?

[@154Jamesp]

Loosen the clutch up a little bit in the fall. I do that on messy trails. It helps a lot while still taking advantage of the clutch.

[@spuddo123]

12.38s of raw uncut derailleur clutch action

[@floriankienle457]

The noise of the chain banging onto that plate sounds pretty musical to me.

[@timotheyszczepanski6644]

clutch: chain wiggle no clutch: cHaIn WiGgLe

[@tubbsnd]

Shimano XT 10 sp w/clutch has been a wonderful addition to my SRAM X-7 9sp transmission! KA-POW!

[@swervin_side2side600]

I think there’s a point to be made about the amount of chain length the derailleur has to take up. Say you have a triple 26/36/48 chainring and a 11-32 cassette, the total range is 11+26=37 to 48+32=80, in other words the difference between max and min is 43. With a 32 (or any other size) single chainring and a 10-51 cassette, the difference between max and min is 41. So what the modern 1x derailleurs have to deal with is quite similar in the end.

[@user-bollocks-yt]

9:18 who saw the wheel move side to side or is that just me

[@Montblanc1986]

I've got a bike with Altus and it works pretty well, never had the chain come off and it shifts single click under load really well

[@maxfathi596]

You’re lucky you’re getting that even on flat ground

[@imattultra1623]

I can always tell when I forget to turn my clutch back on because I hear a ton of chain slap haha! Great video Doddy, completely forgot about chain drops thanks to modern design!

[@jimmie999999999]

Mr Doddy, I learn so much from you! I appreciate you very much. Thank you for everything and explaining things in a way I can understand.

[@stevencole7331]

Chain looks a bit long as I dont remember a chain actually hitting the ground while bouncing around ever. That could be really dangerous if the chain caught a root or a rock

[@darcyphillips70]

I run narrow wide and clutched Shimano on a hardtail and I’ve never lost a chain in 5 years, I’ve lost contact lenses and hit trails so fast I couldn’t focus with the vibration... yet my chain has never let me down. Narrow wide & clutched derailleur allied to the dropper seat post are arguably the greatest advances in MTB IMHO

[@dumbr2098]

I just went from Sram x5 to Shimano XT, I'm so glad I did.. I thought I only heard loud chain slap when I landed a bit rough, but it's so much quiter in every single way.. I realised I had chain slap with riding off of curbs cause my bike is so much quiter even with that! Literally landed a 5 meter dirtjump to flat and I don't think I heard any chain slap.

[@RyanAlexanderBloom]

I for one do not need reminding “how loud things used to be.” I got my first narrow-wide 1x setup in 2020. I had various old school 3x rigs before that since the mid 90s. Fairly fresh.

[@borisov1024]

For over 500km of mountain riding this summer I never got my chain dropped until it suddenly happened. Then I checked the chain and it was 100% worn. My setup is 34t oval narrow-wide at front, 9 speed 11-36 SunRace cassette paired with non-clutch Shimano Acera derailleur.

[@Cous1nJack]

^Don’t worry about him. He angry.

[@Cous1nJack]

@@RealMTBAddict the internet. Now you are 😡 perhaps you need to ride more.

[@jasonkroll9532]

Xx 10sp nw ring . Down hilling with no problems. I was surprised, do have a xx1 11sp to be install but no rush.....and Great video, like always. And that Nukeproof is awesome.

[@7MPhonemicEnglish]

Bless you for talking and actually educating the viewers. The damn music videos frost me over.

[@snackysnacks2891]

5:24 that go pro angle would be perfect for a foot placement on fat pedals vid, i'm always trying ot find the perfect angle of my foot while riding

[@corentinoger]

Bought my 1st MTB a few months ago, it has a clutch (XT derailleur), I could never figure out what difference it made, sometimes I switch it ON, sometimes OFF, the chain never came OFF. Actually, I feel that it misses gear changes more often with the clutch ON (both up & down), needing more precise cable adjustement at the shifter. I might save money and replace it with a cheaper one when it wears out.

[@poshpickle9024]

@Giuliano Skywalker it’s definitely not a money grabbing thing

[@polishguywithhardtospellna8227]

Modern bike can still be loud-put a min size chainring on it (most often 30t i guess) and the chain is so close above the frame there is nothing making it quiet with those constant hard slaps. 34t Doddy has, helps a lot

[@gundamnit3594]

@@RealMTBAddict Real tired men.

[@polishguywithhardtospellna8227]

@@RealMTBAddict I'm a real looser, don't use them

[@JClark2600]

@1:08 WOW! I had a pair of Cook Bros 181mm cranks on my ELF when I was racing BMX back in the day.

[@Evertb1]

After maintenance on my 1 x 11 setup (narrow wide oval up front) I one time forgot to engage the clutch. And yes, the chain dropped off. Besides of that I never had a problem with my chain and never felt the need for a chain guide.

[@brettm.1770]

You can also easily adjust the clutch so it isn't as active when on

[@lidarman2]

This reveals a big secret in tech biking. Pull your chain tight by shifting down in coasting chop--or simply pedal. Don't ride coasting over chop in small cog--that is foolish.

[@Silkl4sh]

I'm happy that Sram clutch gives me great shifting performance and chain retention unlike Shimano counterpart.

[@johndef5075]

Chainguide is more important. I have 3 bikes. 2 clutch derailleurs with nw chainrings which occassionally drop the chain. One non clutch with chainguide that never drops.

[@MrDanthemaniam]

This was totally unscientific and didn't prove a thing. your chain fell off on the non-narrow white chain ring because you backpedaled when you had slack something you didn't do with the other. Chain guides don't do a damn thing unless you're pedaling. Inferring that they would have been necessary to save the non-narrow wide setup doesn't even make sense.

[@joaodncartaxo]

Nice clip! I feel like I just woke up from a coma and discovered clutched derailleurs 😂 apparently it fixes a problem I never had on my 9x3 11year old bike 😅

[@Krikstar123]

Riiiiight... Just stay in the 90's then, LOL

[@joaodncartaxo]

@@Krikstar123 2020 - 11 = 2009 #math 😅

[@vicsimmonds]

I guess a clutch would still help with a 3x setup, beats a DCD! I might struggle to find a rear mech that befits any of my retro MTBs though. 👍🏼

[@ish474]

I want to see someone do a tire sidewall comparison people always talk about sidewall in respect to flats and tire pressure. however, I think it affects the feel of handling more than any other component on your bike

[@the_nondrive_side]

being an all season long term canadian daily ride.. yep. a 700c 40mm vs a 37mm vs a 42mm from one type to another all ride completely different... schwalbe seem to have thick hard sidewalls that allow a soft ride. WTB byway on the other hand were thin and small but supple. continentals the worst of either.. soft sides weird hard centers

[@hk7pht]

Thanks for the videos. The clutch it’s really useful when you want to start pedalling just before the chain is back to the normal state. If the clutch is off, I normally have problems with the chain in the tension pulley that can become stuck if start pedalling. Never had issue on the chainring tough. Cheers from NL

[@sqlim85]

I have an old x9 (no clutch) and NW chainring and it works fine, not loosing chain, but slapping.

[@ichiroku]

thing of the past? that's my everyday! specialized rockhopper 2006 :D

[@benjameng9475]

Yup need that clutch. Thanks for the demo!

[@iriehoneyeater1853]

It's less the chain noise that is annoying with an old derailleur but more the sound of your derailleur violently smacking against the cassette every time you hit a obstacle larger than 4 inches tall

[@wesbrown660]

Love the camera angles.

[@hodgo1981]

Nice article. I'm amazed how much the narrow wide helps. I often forget to flick the clutch back on and I cant rememebr the last time I dropped a chain on my MTB... bloody road bike is always dropping chains - so far behind in the tech! I'd love to see a similar trail side analysis of Suspension settings. Could @GMBNTech do a trails side analysis on what each suspension setting does? e.g. changing pressures, changing tokens/ramp, changing platform modes and then changing compression and rebound.

[@mtbriding8849]

An interesting experiment. Stabilizer in Rear Drailleur is easy to break the switch lever. I think Clutch than Chian-guide with Crank much more useful. Chain's slack noise? it just only noise. Chain-off the crank that's the fatal Risk.

[@jamesdschmidt_]

Brake tech improvements: caliper > V brakes > disc (mechanical vs. hydraulic vs. rotor size vs. piston count)

[@ratoneJR]

never will believe the average rider needs a clutch. most watchers of this channnel are not average riders, but i am average. as for noise... there are simple fixes for that.

[@anotheryoutuber_]

1x12 just wait for 1x1, less weight ,zero slap, super low noise, and less gear range but way more fun.

[@francisisrael6725]

everthing started with 1x then they developed 2x then eventualy 3x with larger cogs, then they went back 2x then now 1x.... then they would realize when salles hit a plateu, they will reintroduce 2x then eventually 3x. ....

[@tito450se]

Fantastic Demo. Very appreciated!

[@mr.peters6483]

You would have to try it on an older bike. The geo and suspension has changed a lot since 2012. Then it would give a better result.

[@imnowhacko]

I've been riding Mtn. Bikes for over 30 years, with no clutches the whole time, and no real problems with the chain coming off. Guess I'm not riding hard enough.

[@Serby665]

Quick question: If you ride XC on asphalt and light trails, where the chain has very little risk to fall off, and you keep your clutch on all the time do you risk damaging the clutch, or adding wear to it? I'm thinking of a situation where you ride with the clutch on, you don't need it, and then you end up in the service and have to replace your read der, or the clutch in it, simply because you added wear to it?

[@SuperAcerx]

What an end-boss, hotswapping crank in the field.

[@7MPhonemicEnglish]

I just got a circa 2009 Diamondback Edgewood hybrid bike which apparently had almost never been ridden. It has a Shimano Acera 7 speed rear derailleur. It has no clutch. One theory is that you don't need it in the city, but I say “nay, nay”. Dropping off a curb the first time almost made me soil my pants. I think because the chain actually slapped the asphalt, which your video shows is entirely possible and my brain picked up on that distinctive sound and panicked. Well my chain didn't come off, but that was of small comfort. I think I'll look into some sort of guide/tensioner add-on since I can't afford to upgrade the entire drive system.

[@gunny6517]

Wish the music wasn’t playing so we could have heard the chain slapping the frame... Great Job Doddy!

[@DadTechTV]

Great angle with the cameras to show the chain. Thanks for the video!!

[@joehasagolf]

I was hoping you were going to cover pedal / chain feedback through the suspension tbh. Chain less feels great. Clutch makes it worse. Not sure how much.

[@brettm.1770]

The clutch is more important going over rough terrain at decent speed so pedal kickback is a non issue. Kickback is also tough to empirically measure. Chainless feels better mainly because the lack of tension of the pedals and sound from slap.

[@Vylkeer]

I think you meant to write “clutch on” at the end at 10:43 there. Btw thanks, I finally know what a derailleur w/ clutch is for. Didn’t even know about the narrow-wide chainrings.

[@rideholme7351]

The pin that holds the clutch tensioner on my SLX derailleur snapped recently, I’ve been riding with no clutch tension on my hardtail for a while now with no noticeable difference. On another note what about the running a clutch mech with an oval chainring??

[@SnootchieBootchies27]

It's amazing how much the chain still flaps around with the clutch on. My old-school single ring guide was the bashguard sandwich. Extra noisy!

[@DaiwaMaster]

Bashguard... That brings back memories :)

[@fatbikedaddy8644]

Interesting review: over time, we take this technology for granted and have generally stopped worrying about chain retention when riding nasty terrain. Back in the 90’s, we all had techniques for putting chains back on, while riding, managing pedal strokes and front mech half-shifts... ha the good old days!

[@mareklesniak8768]

Another take from that experiment is how loose chain can still be, even with the clutch.

[@radodanchev8600]

I'm on hardtail with norow with chain ring and very tight kluch on shimano zee oan I still maneg to drop the chain on fool sending mod it's crazy 🔥😎

[@dominicomucci3014]

I still have an old school MtB and the chain is fine. It's actually faster because of the range of high gears and I never had a loose chain issue. For really bumpy stuff you could get a roller which went on the rear triangle to tighten the chain but it wasn't really needed. Only downside to it is the v brakes and front suspension is elastomer so isn't as good as modern stuff. To be fair the v brakes felt fine until I used the new bike then when I went back to them they felt bad 😂 The clutch does a good job of new bikes though.

[@markroberts7866]

My chain has fell off a couple of times on my 2006 Kona Kula, high voltage on the dog trail at cannock chase was the time I remember most ha

[@TheManCave563]

My chain likes to drop at stile cop just before the drop gap on walleater.

[@markroberts7866]

@@TheManCave563 I haven’t been there yet don’t think I’m best equipped on an old XC bike probably be ok on the red run there from what I’ve seen in footage..

[@sycpup]

excellent vid! it answered some questions i've had for a while. thank you!

[@j_philips__]

Currently running a narrow-wide chainring, chain guide + bash guard and a clutch mech. I don’t think I’ll ever do it differently

[@th_js]

Nice video Doddy, great to see something different!

[@draggonhedd]

I really love that alloy bike you featured for the "old mtb" footage. Is there a video about that bike specifically or some more info about it?

[@LongPeter]

None? Not non?

[@biskoss]

Yes! Glad its not just me. Driving me potty that!

[@davelloyd8454]

Me too. Non. Definitely non (not none).

[@mattgies]

Dear graphics department: "none" is not "non".

[@LongPeter]

@@mattgies to be fair, it did also sound like he was saying “none”.

[@mattgies]

@@LongPeter Sure, but I'd think that they'd all be accustomed to English accents, being based in Bath.

[@attemarttinen]

My efatbike is absolutely hopeless if I disengage the clutch. The moment there is a bump bigger than a dead squirrel the chain drops either from the rear or front ring. When it is engaged there are zero problems unless you count the slightly heavier feel of the gear lever. This could partially be because sometimes, especially on high pedal assist settings, the assistance from the motor is not immediately switched off when the pedaling input stops. So there might be some rotating going on midair/moment of impact on the ground.

[@saml8119]

SRAM GX 1x, clutch, narrow wide and still need a chain guide lol. At least it’s better than the old days of tacos! 🌮

[@Workhorse-ef8mv]

If the chain coming off is only a problem on the front ring , chain guide, if you run single gear up front. I went down to 2 chain ring in front keeping the front detailer on no jump yet.

[@luckyduckimages]

cleaning/servicing the clutch would make a good video.

[@rob1399]

SRAM and Shimano are the big daddies of MTB I'm never going back to a multi speed front!