DO YOU REALLY NEED A GRID HEATER??

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@vandall2518
@vandall2518 5 жыл бұрын
New meaning of living off the grid.
@ididiesel83
@ididiesel83 4 жыл бұрын
Gold.
@turfitup01
@turfitup01 5 жыл бұрын
When its negative 16 an you find out she's home alone..
@hannahramirez5448
@hannahramirez5448 5 жыл бұрын
Can a Cummins start without a starter? Tune in next time to find out.
@stevenayala2324
@stevenayala2324 5 жыл бұрын
Damn your fine !
@MadisonFishing
@MadisonFishing 5 жыл бұрын
Yes it can.
@gavinlee9781
@gavinlee9781 5 жыл бұрын
I’ll start you with out my starter and Cummins
@sambo2891
@sambo2891 5 жыл бұрын
Bump start a Manual, yes
@MLGtroll365
@MLGtroll365 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah bro it'll start.
@connordoll9455
@connordoll9455 5 жыл бұрын
What needs to be taken into account that can’t be seen is what effect the grid heater has on combustion. When the grid heater is on the air is warmer and in the “zone” that diesel will combust the best in. When you don’t run a grid heater you have lots of cylinder wash from unburnt fuel. This is bad for 2 reasons, first faster oil dilution rate because more fuel is going by the piston and into the crank case, and second when that fuel “washes” down the cylinder it brings the oil with it meaning higher wear rates.
@Cumminslife
@Cumminslife 5 жыл бұрын
Yup exactly. The engine would wear considerably faster cold starting without grids all winter than it would with them.
@tractorboy31
@tractorboy31 5 жыл бұрын
Just an idea if you want to be able to get rid of the grid heater and start easily try modify the intake to accept ford 7.3 super duty intake air heater. I believe they are quarter diameter about an 1 1/2 inches long. That might heat the air enough to start easily without the restrictions
@ryanstuckey8677
@ryanstuckey8677 5 жыл бұрын
lol I must be the luckiest guy in the world I live in ohio and my 01 has 240,000 miles on it and has not had a grid heater since day 1
@xc8487
@xc8487 5 жыл бұрын
Grid heater, oil pan heater, battery heater, fuel heater, block heater. All this would allow instant starts well into the negative temperatures.
@icecreamsundae1038
@icecreamsundae1038 5 жыл бұрын
@@xc8487 Also known as a "garage"
@tomondrek9860
@tomondrek9860 4 жыл бұрын
-16 there and somewhere it’s 35 and a 7.3 is hooked to its umbilical cord still struggling to start 😂😂
@Dropbackdurbin_ocs
@Dropbackdurbin_ocs 4 жыл бұрын
Tom Ondrek my buddy’s 6.5 was struggling to start at 50 degrees lol
@andrewbartleman9169
@andrewbartleman9169 4 жыл бұрын
@@Dropbackdurbin_ocs yeah 6.5s are idis. They heavily rely on glowplugs. Direct injection engines like a cummins are far superior at starting without anything but compression alone. Obviously the grid heaters help a lot. My little perkins ranger is a idi and it wont start in summer weather without a glow plug cycle lol.
@devonlecerf394
@devonlecerf394 4 жыл бұрын
Guys saying 7.3 struggling to cold start makes me lmao my 7.3 with over 500k fires right up in -40c without any issues as long as fuel and air intake heaters and glow plugs all work properly
@ultron6931
@ultron6931 5 жыл бұрын
Should we get Gale Banks to do a comparison of pressure drop over the grid heater just like diff covers?
@jasonbubley9427
@jasonbubley9427 5 жыл бұрын
Yess I was just watching these
@BiggusDickus2
@BiggusDickus2 5 жыл бұрын
Because this is retarded. At best you're gaining .025 hp for I DeLeTeD mY gRiDhEaTeR nEpHsOn YeE yEe
@CodyDoesIt
@CodyDoesIt 5 жыл бұрын
@@BiggusDickus2 thats what my Duncle Wayne told me lol
@MrTheHillfolk
@MrTheHillfolk 5 жыл бұрын
Haha if it is an issue, why not build an intake stub with 2 heaters side by side , kinda like sorta know what I mean ? That’ll flow enough air.
@GregoryJohnston77
@GregoryJohnston77 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao banks is the shit.
@TRX450RVlogger
@TRX450RVlogger 5 жыл бұрын
I always loved the sound of a cold diesel. Something fun about imagining the engine warming up and knowing there is small little fist sized explosions making it that warm when it's that cold out. Cool stuff!
@bruth3252
@bruth3252 5 жыл бұрын
One thing that helps with cold starts is using 5w40 instead of 15w40.
@BrowerBandit
@BrowerBandit 5 жыл бұрын
-15w40 would be great.
@CalgaryDynastar
@CalgaryDynastar 5 жыл бұрын
I run 0W in the winter but realistically running synthetic is the biggest difference maker for oil in cold weather. Block heater is also the biggest help, especially in the last 3 weeks when we were -20 to -40 celsius.
@bruth3252
@bruth3252 5 жыл бұрын
CalgaryDynastar where I’m at we usually don’t get much colder than -10 c so for me 5w is plenty good. And yes a block heater makes a HUGE difference!
@bryanmartinez6600
@bryanmartinez6600 5 жыл бұрын
It would flow better but I don't think it have the same effect on a Cummins or Duramax as it would with the old 7.3 and 6.0 Powerstroke. They depended on oil flow.
@michaelbarnhill2685
@michaelbarnhill2685 5 жыл бұрын
@@bryanmartinez6600 it would definitely have a large affect. All that slow cranking is from.the oil still being thick.
@blawsonbl
@blawsonbl 5 жыл бұрын
Naw you don't need a grid heater. Just an extra starter, and batteries on hand for backups..
@brjr2009
@brjr2009 5 жыл бұрын
Your not doing your engine any favors lots of raw fuel washing down the cylinders.
@ml.2770
@ml.2770 5 жыл бұрын
Tune in next week when we try to start my truck without fuel.
@juan8401
@juan8401 4 жыл бұрын
Seems legit
@gwtcllc
@gwtcllc 3 жыл бұрын
Omg I can't stop smiling about this,,, this comment is so funny!!! Thank you so much for the great Joy this morning!
@bryanmartinez6600
@bryanmartinez6600 5 жыл бұрын
I seriously wish they would get rid of those gas struts and go back to the spring type hood assist.
@bryanmartinez6600
@bryanmartinez6600 3 жыл бұрын
@Bohappenstance Click if it's a Chevy nope they burn those out for some reason
@bryanmartinez6600
@bryanmartinez6600 3 жыл бұрын
@Bohappenstance Click I personally prefer the new ones mainly because the better lighting they provide. Haven't driven a vehicle with 4 bulbs as you say unless they are separate high and low setup. Our 09 express has the glass bulbs and the light output from 2 bulbs is terrible.
@redpoole9323
@redpoole9323 4 жыл бұрын
Put the damn heater back on.
@adamw.6488
@adamw.6488 5 жыл бұрын
idk why the thought of removing the grid heater is even a thought up here in canada. My welding rig was stuck in fort mcmurray this winter at -40 for a few weeks, no plug ins. if i didnt have a grid heater it wouldnt have started and i wouldnt have made any money this winter lol
@BrodieBr0
@BrodieBr0 4 жыл бұрын
All you need is the block heater in cooler temps for the 5.9. Yes, the grid heater helps a little but but the grid heater was mainly thrown on the Cummins Dodges to satisfy EPA nutjobs for emissions at that time. The ''industrial Cummins'' at that time that went into buses, generators, boats, farm equipment, etc didn't have them even though it was the same engine.
@chopshopmike2362
@chopshopmike2362 5 жыл бұрын
I’d be curious to see the cfm difference of a intake with a grid vs a delete block on a flow bench, how much restriction is it causing.
@Cumminslife
@Cumminslife 5 жыл бұрын
I would also be very interested to see those results.
@EvanWSH
@EvanWSH 5 жыл бұрын
Having a boost gauge before and after the grid heater in my buddies truck, we couldn't see even a fractional PSI higher before the grid vs after, up to 50 psi. Maybe if you were running like 150psi youd be able to see some difference, as it stands on sub like.. 1000hp trucks, I think there is near 0 to gain by removing it. Theres probably much worse sections of the intake system that could be remedied before the grid heater.
@Cumminslife
@Cumminslife 5 жыл бұрын
@@EvanWSH Very interesting, thanks for sharing your results.
@punkrocker10115
@punkrocker10115 5 жыл бұрын
@@EvanWSH have to agree. The intake horn is much more restrictive than the grid heater anyways. Why most guys go to an aftermarket horn or a 2nd gen horn on a 3rd gen.
@scoobiedoo96
@scoobiedoo96 5 жыл бұрын
I think it was gale banks that claimed once that you gain about half psi of boost. if anybody knows it would be him. but unless youre running big numbers for competition I don't think its really worth the hard starts on a daily driver.
@joelschermerhorn5447
@joelschermerhorn5447 4 жыл бұрын
My 95 Cummins (with 100hp over injectors) starts easier than that at 23*F, but I also double-cycle the grid heater for ease of starting.
@jasontruman1215
@jasontruman1215 5 жыл бұрын
And this is why grids are nice to have
@Cumminslife
@Cumminslife 5 жыл бұрын
@CP Steve Miller You could throw a switch on the grid heater relays no problem. I can also disable the error code in tuning for you so no codes switching them off either.
@Cumminslife
@Cumminslife 5 жыл бұрын
@CP Steve Miller It doesn't give you a dead pedal with p1222 or p1223?
@Cumminslife
@Cumminslife 5 жыл бұрын
@CP Steve Miller Yeah definitely a body issue, or simply connector tube needs to be torqued more. Needs to be fixed before doing any tuning. It will eventually hard start and then not start at all as the leak gets worse.
@seabee460
@seabee460 5 жыл бұрын
@CP Steve Miller just use a relay on a toggle switch to cut power when needed. Not sure what size that circuit needs, but that's what I would do.
@wobblysauce
@wobblysauce 5 жыл бұрын
What about disabling the Grid heater to jump start, when the engine is warm turn it off, enable the Grid heaters again and start it up?
@BrowerBandit
@BrowerBandit 5 жыл бұрын
tham moment when your duramax has a grid heater a fuel heater and glow plugs and at -40 it fires right up, but the draw on the shitty battier connections that gm's have is terrible, set a few of them on fire.
@zuestoots5176
@zuestoots5176 5 жыл бұрын
-50, hit the key in my Gas car and it fires right up. Shitty little Diesels.
@matthewb7049
@matthewb7049 5 жыл бұрын
Do you not have 2 batts?
@kelceyk8199
@kelceyk8199 5 жыл бұрын
The stock side posts in the GM give better contact that top posts. Facts.
@icecreamsundae1038
@icecreamsundae1038 5 жыл бұрын
@@zuestoots5176 my hydrogen rockets lifted me off the surface of the moon @ -300 degrees. Any engine that runs "Dinosaur Squeezins" is caveman tech.
@foxbodyguyeightyeight3672
@foxbodyguyeightyeight3672 5 жыл бұрын
@@kelceyk8199 lol what planet you come from
@Taylordrifts
@Taylordrifts 5 жыл бұрын
Really interesting video, not that I live somewhere where it gets cold, and I don't have a cummins anymore (both of mine had the grid heaters deleted) but was still interesting to watch.
@Cumminslife
@Cumminslife 5 жыл бұрын
I cant believe you got rid of that 3rd gen megacab for a ford!!! That was a nice truck
@Taylordrifts
@Taylordrifts 5 жыл бұрын
Optimal Welding I couldn’t do it anymore. Every time I fixed something something else would break. Changed the trans cooler line which sucked because rust (weird to have a rusty vehicle when you live in Florida) then immediately after the fan clutch quit working. It had cut the wires. Put a new one on. Then it only turned on when the engine was cold. Changed the whole ac system. Then it wouldn’t work because the tipm was fried. Bypassed that with a relay. Two weeks later low Freon. Track down the leak. Change the high pressure switch. Then randomly developed a bigger leak. First Texas trip the alternator died 5 minutes into the 18 hour trip at 6am. Power outlets would randomly stop working. Etc. I was just over it. If it was a clean truck I would have been more inclined to throw money at it. But it wasn’t. The more I put in the less I was going to get out because of the rust. I really like the new dually. I’ve always wanted a dually on 22/24’s so it’s the first truck I’ve had where I really really like the look. Goal would be to build a 6.4 dually the same way with a p-pump 12v compounds and maybe a stick.
@Cumminslife
@Cumminslife 5 жыл бұрын
@@Taylordrifts Bummer, sucks to hear you had such bad luck with that truck. I hear ya, duallys on 22/24s is sick! I may take my 2012 megacab that route. Or convert to srw. Not sure yet. If you do end up throwing a cummins in the ford I highly recommend you consider using a 2003+ common rail engine. The wiring is no more complicated than doing an LS swap but will result in much more driveable truck. Way more power while still keeping it clean and quiet.
@kylefitzherbert9381
@kylefitzherbert9381 2 жыл бұрын
@@Taylordrifts this didnt age well lmao.
@nomjasdk
@nomjasdk 5 жыл бұрын
Yup.. That "fired right up" and kept on running... Ahem... :D
@MrDJ217
@MrDJ217 5 жыл бұрын
Ahhh multiple cold starts. Thanks
@larrycarpenter7719
@larrycarpenter7719 5 жыл бұрын
Always see people talking about the restrictions of the grid heater but never seen on person put one on a flow bench to prove it actually is and or how much it is. Basically everyone repeats hearsay and takes it as fact with no actual knowledge. Ie; "KZbin technology."
@JosephArata
@JosephArata 5 жыл бұрын
That's because its marketing bullshit. The grid heater is not a restriction.
@yepyep27
@yepyep27 5 жыл бұрын
That was a really educational video! Great set of tests!
@tedbownas2748
@tedbownas2748 5 жыл бұрын
Mine's a Dmax LB7 with about 70k on it, and I almost always plug it in below 30deg F. As long as the batteries are good, it starts just fine regardless, but I don't see the point in adding wear and tear when it's got the block heater. Plug in your trucks. 😝
@MrTheHillfolk
@MrTheHillfolk 5 жыл бұрын
Ted Bownas If you’re a 9-5er you can put it on a timer too. Kick it on a couple of hours before the rat race.
@kennethmilus1533
@kennethmilus1533 Жыл бұрын
Yah it starts. But why stress the engine when we have block heaters and grid heaters. Old time truckers would love to have the stuff we have now. That oil is like molasses. Id rather plug in and go
@aj06bolt12r
@aj06bolt12r 4 жыл бұрын
That poor thing sounded terrible. That probably took 100k off of its life
@dptp9lf
@dptp9lf 5 жыл бұрын
Nice Test... i think mine would probably act very similar to yours... -20 every morning here in Calgary lately so i plug it and use the grid heater:)
@chrisharding7203
@chrisharding7203 5 жыл бұрын
Has anyone ever flow tested a grid heater to see how restrictive they are? Excellent video as always. Thanks
@farfromperfect4643
@farfromperfect4643 9 ай бұрын
I would check out some of Banks videos, since they make the Monster Ram intake and love show boating flow charts. :)
@crx350x1
@crx350x1 5 жыл бұрын
wayyy too cold bro. not good to start that cold. shit wears out fast!
@robwalters9695
@robwalters9695 5 жыл бұрын
Imo unless you're trying for an all out 1000 hp build drag type truck why put that stress on the rotating mass of the motor and starter. Grid heater is better than glow plugs imo and no real reason not to run one in the event you're somewhere you cant plug the truck in at night like hunt camp or something. I consistently plug my truck in when it get to about 30* ish at night when I'm home and will drive the truck the following day. However hunt camp or even at work I cant plug the truck in so the grid heater is effective and efficient for quick non hard starts.
@DieselAddict-vs9fc
@DieselAddict-vs9fc 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah glow plugs are junk. I've never seen a Ford that's never had a glow plug problem.
@MLGtroll365
@MLGtroll365 5 жыл бұрын
Diesels are nothing more than big needy babies... Titty babies that is...
@DieselAddict-vs9fc
@DieselAddict-vs9fc 5 жыл бұрын
@@MLGtroll365 amen
@joekimbo8969
@joekimbo8969 3 жыл бұрын
@@MLGtroll365 now go for your daily gasoline run
@AsianNIGMA
@AsianNIGMA 4 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe people are actually stupid enough to Delete it even if you live somewhere where it’s not cold
@cabbyhubby
@cabbyhubby 5 жыл бұрын
I'm in Texas....No I don't need it and have been running only one battery for 5 years
@david_cdt6.7
@david_cdt6.7 4 жыл бұрын
Used to run big diesel engines in tri-axle and eighteen wheeler... never had a grid heater and they always started..... if it's that key to get it to start easy just plug your block heater in.. been done that way for years....
@100pyatt
@100pyatt 5 жыл бұрын
Turn key, hold wide open on RPM Governor, warms up super good😉 👍
@joshuafitforbattle8999
@joshuafitforbattle8999 5 жыл бұрын
Knowing full well what is happening to the engine, this is hands down my favorite cold start video! Love the truck, and the channel. Thanks for doing what you do!
@Itdontmatter69
@Itdontmatter69 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t put my Cummins through that. Lol why
@whitemale2248
@whitemale2248 5 жыл бұрын
Ive fired up my 2nd gen easier then that in -20f (-28c) weather without being plugged in.
@haroldmcfalls6724
@haroldmcfalls6724 5 жыл бұрын
I asked a question about your airbag install on your Texas pipeline bed build if you could check it out and let me know.
@8lugdrift550
@8lugdrift550 2 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure when you do the complete cold start and it runs rough, that’s actually a design by Cummins. It’s running on 3 cylinders until the block is warm enough to fast idle. That’s where all the smoke is coming from and why is suddenly goes away after a few minutes.
@wickeddodgeboys6603
@wickeddodgeboys6603 7 ай бұрын
That was from 98.5-02 cummins only 3 cyl high idle.
@bagofbones11
@bagofbones11 5 жыл бұрын
Thank god im not the only one who leaves grease smudges on shit
@davidmoore5021
@davidmoore5021 5 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a comparison on a dyno. Thanks for sharing.
@JosephArata
@JosephArata 5 жыл бұрын
0 difference, the grid heater is not a restriction.
@davidmoore5021
@davidmoore5021 5 жыл бұрын
Batojiri1 the first time I looked straight down through it, I couldn’t see how the grid heater would be restriction. Like to take a veneerer measurement and see how much it is.
@b-ray5397
@b-ray5397 4 жыл бұрын
All these comments about fuel wash , I thought diesel was basically an oil and lubricant , wouldn’t fuel wash just be with gas engines ??
@PorgChob
@PorgChob 4 жыл бұрын
B- Ray no, it wears out the piston rings, which can weaken them and crack ring lands which can eventually cause low compression
@adanvaldcontreras4283
@adanvaldcontreras4283 5 жыл бұрын
My 12v didn't start at neg - 13. Plugged it started right up. Chicago. 20 it starts right up unplugged.
@BrianNavalinsky
@BrianNavalinsky 5 жыл бұрын
Release the Kraken.
@Mebob2001
@Mebob2001 5 жыл бұрын
ohhh yeee heard that injection timing xD, i like the first go around when she comes out of the lope when the cylinders have some heat in them
@pairisfabrication2476
@pairisfabrication2476 5 жыл бұрын
My grid heater doesn’t work I just plug my block in if it’s gonna get below freezing starts good every day has for about the last 5 years
@dptp9lf
@dptp9lf 5 жыл бұрын
Remember that the grid heater kicks in an out even after you start it...
@bartholomausallen883
@bartholomausallen883 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, at idle they do. But really, no one should be idling these engines to warm up because it takes too long. You want to idle to build some oil circulation and then drive the vehicle under light load for the engine to warm up. When you get that engine to build some boost, the heat from the compressed air means the grid heaters don't cycle because the compressed air is enough to provide for good diesel combustion. The engine wants you to put a load on it to run correctly!
@dptp9lf
@dptp9lf 3 жыл бұрын
@@bartholomausallen883 I would add that cold starting them is really hard on them so having some sort of pre-heat is mandatory. I plug in at freezing and below...
@jackpinnell3973
@jackpinnell3973 5 жыл бұрын
had a 2001 super duty 7.3 living in MD near PA and had a couple of really cold winters. Did some checking on how much the block heater made the meter on the house spin and put a timer on the block heater so it came on about an hour before I was ready to head off to work. Made a big difference in how the old ford started and had pretty much instant heat for the defrosters.
@michaelbarnhill2685
@michaelbarnhill2685 5 жыл бұрын
Good lord, run the correct oil weight for the temps you are in. You keeping trying to crank your engine over with oil that wont even pour out of its container at thise temps.
@darinwardwell1583
@darinwardwell1583 5 жыл бұрын
that truck wouldn't live in Ak. and cold start will glaze cylinders over and loose compression. so why unhook to c if it start .it will if you crank long enuf. diesels running below 138 Deg. for long periods of time will glaze cylinders ..
@tandaman666
@tandaman666 5 жыл бұрын
1:47 I like that gasser
@duttydiesel8303
@duttydiesel8303 5 жыл бұрын
Long story short... Use your heating elements for crying out loud your truck is much better off for it..... If I could I would plug in at work!
@gatmanaug
@gatmanaug 5 жыл бұрын
reminds me of starting a m60 tank in the cold keep them running it a diesel start it once its all good
@tercola8756
@tercola8756 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone know why the 5.9 Cummins engines lope and smoke like that for the first 30 seconds after startup and then suddenly idle normally? I have seen several of them do this and don't know why.
@bassbustingman
@bassbustingman 5 жыл бұрын
what would be the hp gain from deleting the grid heaters..... I remember my dad plugging the truck in when he first got it back in 1999, dodge ram 3500 24 valve, and waiting for all the lights on the dash to go off before starting. He is in Cail does not get that cold...
@mrcumminsforlife5943
@mrcumminsforlife5943 5 жыл бұрын
am i the only one to notice your rocking two different mirrors now?
@Cumminslife
@Cumminslife 5 жыл бұрын
haha yeh I crunched one on the wall trying to get into my shop. Got a new set here just need to put them on.
@tracefuqua3651
@tracefuqua3651 5 жыл бұрын
mr cumminsforlife I noticed that too lol but didn’t think to comment on it. I wondered how long it would take before he broke a mirror backing out that narrow door
@post_historic
@post_historic 5 жыл бұрын
Dont know what's happening today, but I'm in.
@anzyi1
@anzyi1 5 жыл бұрын
why would anyone do this? :D
@stover77
@stover77 4 жыл бұрын
I live in Minnesota and work for a delivery company. All our rigs have the 24v Cummins, mine has 260k miles. It gets so damn cold here in the winter, that you 100% need the block heater plugged in and grid heater operational. When the air temp is -20f, even my gasoline engine in my car starts hard.
@shamblershamfam3597
@shamblershamfam3597 Жыл бұрын
I deleted my Grid Heater because of the Amp draw at startup. Block heater is all you need.
@laned1042
@laned1042 5 жыл бұрын
3 weeks ago I was at -15 Fahrenheit only block heaters on three Diesel engines all started perfectly every time
@AwestrikeFearofGods
@AwestrikeFearofGods 7 ай бұрын
2:22 Cool. The rough idle sounds like it's due to cyclic misfire, where each cylinder has one or more misfires between each successful power cycle. Obviously, low temperatures slow down evaporation of sprayed diesel fuel. A cold, lean mixture is far less likely to ignite by compression. What's more difficult to explain, is why there is periodic successful ignition: 1) Intake and exhaust valves don't open and close at TDC and BDC, but instead have extended duration for effective scavenging at high engine speeds. At low rpm, excessive intake-valve duration causes partial regurgitation and reintake of intake charge. Similarly, excessive exhaust-valve duration causes partial reingestion of exhaust gasses at low rpm. 2) Excess liquid fuel collects on the piston and cylinder walls with each misfire cycle. As the surface area covered in liquid fuel increases, the evaporation rate increases. 3) The accumulation of incompressible liquid fuel effectively reduces combustion chamber size, increasing compression ratio. This raises the peak air temperature after compression, and broadens the range of ignitable air-fuel ratios (i.e. flammability limits). The combination of effects 1), 2), and 3) leads to a gradual increase in flammability from one power cycle to the next. This will approach a limit (asymptote), dictated by air/fuel/engine temperatures, and by the exhaust-rate of liquid fuel. Hopefully, liquid fuel gets exhausted before hydraulic lock occurs. Once ignition is successful, much of the heat produced is used to evaporate fuel in the cylinder and exhaust. This results in a very rich mixture with smoky afterburn. For this reason, the exhaust/turbocharger/cat will warmup much sooner than the engine.
@TBONESIDEOFLIFE
@TBONESIDEOFLIFE 5 жыл бұрын
A true cold start there boys!
@dmlandscapedesignllcatlant8093
@dmlandscapedesignllcatlant8093 4 жыл бұрын
Yes please everyone use what is designed to help the engine preform at it's best and enjoy
@lahoozer6694
@lahoozer6694 5 жыл бұрын
3f is still warm mate. -19f is cold. Haha
@supra0592
@supra0592 5 жыл бұрын
The mother of all cold starts.
@NickDash
@NickDash 5 жыл бұрын
I really like the bed style on that truck. I don't want to be that guy that copies a youtubers truck, but damn i want it even though i have no use for it.
@davidharris1179
@davidharris1179 3 жыл бұрын
Great video thx.
@PopsHowTo
@PopsHowTo 2 жыл бұрын
The only time mine gets pissed off is if I haven't drained the water out of the filter and it drops to 8°F. But because it's a cummins it will still start. Just won't stay running hah... So drain your water kids. Unless you still have your filter heater still. Then I guess go nuts.
@n_rip8344
@n_rip8344 4 жыл бұрын
Love your content. You should def do a lot more.
@RobertKohut
@RobertKohut 4 жыл бұрын
Cool... Nice!! :-)
@landonlehman5497
@landonlehman5497 Жыл бұрын
That's a cool welding rig setup. I like it!
@oinchadoomandwolfboy
@oinchadoomandwolfboy Жыл бұрын
I live in central Oklahoma. I removed the grid heater. Terrible mistake. Early model 03 5.9 Cummins. Did not want to start when it got below 40 degrees. The truck had 300k miles so there is a change it just had other issues.
@roysaenz5738
@roysaenz5738 3 жыл бұрын
It's best to use the block heater when below 32 deg. Less stress on the batteries with or without the grid heater as you shown and all that smoke is COLD unburnt wet diesel from one or more cylinders until they start burning and firing correctly and then it levels out with a cold light smoke. Good test and good point. But best to use them both to save the battery life.
@michaelholderegger645
@michaelholderegger645 4 жыл бұрын
I have wondered about having dual grid heaters side by side to double flow with cold starts intact. I have been thinking about doing something like that dual intake horn that banks has with two heaters. I have seen as low as -40F here so there's no way I'm deleting the grid because I need it to work great every day. I have my grid wired to a momentary button also so I can hold the button a little longer than it would normally run or less when it's not as cold.
@wildcatcowboy6591
@wildcatcowboy6591 5 жыл бұрын
Diesels run smother and more efficient at warmer temps. Removing the grid heater in those temperatures is just stupid.
@TheChicagOP
@TheChicagOP 5 жыл бұрын
but if you just plug it in is it really going to cause any harm without it
@rednecktim3275
@rednecktim3275 5 жыл бұрын
Diesels actually run better when its cold
@695noah
@695noah 4 жыл бұрын
ChrisCG it does actually wear out parts quicker when you don’t have a grid heater
@ridenorthwest1687
@ridenorthwest1687 4 жыл бұрын
@@695noah You're just making that up lol... What parts are wearing out faster? explain.
@danielmontenegro3508
@danielmontenegro3508 4 жыл бұрын
RideNorthwest, I’m not waiting for a response on that one lol!
@BrokeDown724
@BrokeDown724 5 жыл бұрын
Cylinder wash with fuel is hilarious 😂
@Cola.398
@Cola.398 Жыл бұрын
Dodge Recall Alert any dodge 267 or more. Off the road. All u desil guys. Sold your 300 miles truck+ it's now junk
@DaltonP2156
@DaltonP2156 2 жыл бұрын
Have a 21 6.7 Cummins looking to delete grid heater due to a recall they just came out with saying it’s causing vehicle fires and no fix has been found yet. I live in New Jersey where weather is really only cold 3 months out of the year. Wonder if it will do harm to my truck
@leebuck180
@leebuck180 Жыл бұрын
logging equipment 30 years ago with the 5.9 cummins had NO grid heater, with good batteries they would rotate 2 or 3 times then run even at 10F.
@ShainAndrews
@ShainAndrews 2 жыл бұрын
Can't believe guys that need a machine for work would still consider those shitty air filters.
@roxyhelfrick767
@roxyhelfrick767 Жыл бұрын
I'm from Wyoming and this past Christmas we had a - 45° F and with windchill it was 60 below zero my truck with grid heater and plugged in took almost a day to get started
@dutchvoyager
@dutchvoyager 2 жыл бұрын
The grid heater can induce pumping losses on the engine. It is an additional restriction in the intake pipe that will stay on during summers, when you don't really need help starting. Block heaters meanwhile, can be used selectively in winters, without the added fuel economy penalty during normal running, as long as you have access to power from the grid.
@jonathangarzon2798
@jonathangarzon2798 3 жыл бұрын
Answer: Yes, period. Why? Reliability Save yourself a headache and get it. You don't need it till you do
@thorseim7177
@thorseim7177 9 ай бұрын
+3° Fahrenheit is balmy and a joke ! How much does a new starter you're grinding on cost $$$ 🤔 ?
@nothsim
@nothsim 5 жыл бұрын
Just had a cold snap here -30 in Edmonton. Not sure if that would work here
@Greatdayforaswellbattle
@Greatdayforaswellbattle 4 жыл бұрын
That bed is dope
@itseemsright7424
@itseemsright7424 3 жыл бұрын
The Block heater is probably toast now 🤷🏼‍♂️ you are not supposed to start the truck when it’s plugged in 😒
@Tuber359
@Tuber359 5 жыл бұрын
I live in Ontario and when it’s below -10c I plug it in and use my grid heaters. Starts good. Just warms up faster being plugging in. But I also have a 12 valve
@raymedorio1930
@raymedorio1930 2 жыл бұрын
The first test you said it was 2 days without start the engine maybe the battery was little weak? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 If you see when your truck cut off by itself at least the battery gets charged little bit then when you crank it back It was more faster? 🤔🤔🤔🤔 The last 2 test the battery was already charged 🤔🤔
@bernhard8540
@bernhard8540 Жыл бұрын
It doesnt get as cold here in Pennsylvania as it does where you are but i kept my grid heater and i installed a block heater just to keep the old girl warm in the dead cold of winter, the past couple years its been more and more cold but less snow its weird haha we used to get tons of snow and it was cold but not like its been the past few winters so i got the old girl a new block heater and relays for the grid especially since shes got 340k and never given me any issues except a governor pressure solenoid and transducer and minor stuff but my 04 and my 03 have both been great to me so im taking the time and refreshing both trucks the 04 just got cab corners and rockers done and paint and now ehile the 03 goes under the knife im gonna start doing some upgrades to the 04 and im starting with your switch and tunes ive read a lot of great things about you and i cant wait to try it out for myself ❤ stay warm and ps i know this is an older video but i just found you a couple days ago and after we emailed back and forth i found your youtube so i came to watch some content and give ya a sub nothing major but if i can help someone doing great stuff in the community then i will ❤
@AMCguy
@AMCguy 5 жыл бұрын
Where we are at i can be as low as minus 40°f and all we have to do is cycle glow plugs
@TheBirdandEagle
@TheBirdandEagle 7 ай бұрын
What a great video and experiment. Thank you for taking the time to sure great information. I learned a lot from the video.
@deepakkatoch4349
@deepakkatoch4349 2 жыл бұрын
At which temperature grid heater start working and how long it will work....answer please....
@rono3045
@rono3045 3 жыл бұрын
Will it start yeah but you're hurting your engine trust me..just like the people that start their gassers when is 25 below zero and they immediately put it in gear and go down on the throttle and jump on the freeway some of them get away with it others blow their head gaskets these motors like to be warmed up for a few minutes..
@RaulsSonidazo
@RaulsSonidazo 5 жыл бұрын
Rip starter
@jacknelson9440
@jacknelson9440 5 жыл бұрын
That's nothing my xj jeep with 220k miles had to crank it at least 3 times for it to start every damn time it was shut off and it did that for 30k miles
@802louis
@802louis 4 жыл бұрын
Watch this video before you buy ram kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXeTi6GNZq1mqMU
@MontanaWelldigger
@MontanaWelldigger 11 ай бұрын
I have a grid heater, block heater and battery heat pads on my 2011 CTD.
@timparker6082
@timparker6082 4 жыл бұрын
I tried to call you 3 times. We have 9 welding trucks and was interested in your beds that you offer. We never got a reply and had to use someone else.
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