Do young Russians want the USSR back?

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[@ivangusev7970]

it was such a "great" country that even people were not allowed out of it

[@rainbowcock]

Usa was such a "great" country that even people were not allowed to go to the communist countries.

[@drottningsylt]

lol yeah, and that’s why a lot of people left and shitted on Ussr from other countries. Because they were not allowed out of it 😂

[@tereterevanakere2132]

@@drottningsylt What else does kremlin tv tell you? 🤣

[@kubv23]

@@tereterevanakere2132 that's true. In 20's - 30's African Americans from USA were moving to Russia and it was pretty often, they believed that Socialist Russia is more fair and better than USA. I believe there's other such cases.

[@alex-0]

@@drottningsylt "a lot"? How much exactly left USSR?

[@xiaoudun]

My uncle lived in east berlin and had a quite good reputation so that he was allowed to visit my dad in west germany in the 80s or so. One day my dad needed something from a hardware store and went there together with him. After seeing what was available there my uncle went silent and told my dad he needed a moment to comprehend what he just saw.

[@GabrielPettier]

I believe the US invested a lot of money into the west-berlin economy exactly for that effect, though the USSR was certainly dysfunctional on its own, that made the difference even greater.

[@chowwh308]

Although things maybe lacking during those times but USSR did achieved greatness in many fields on par or surpass that in the west...space exploration, nuclear science, mega construction projects sports etc.

[@germanleben8297]

​@@chowwh308USSR was great only on paper and kind of in military to show of on the world arena and spread the communist ideology, whereas in the reality it wasn't such a great place to live in for an average citizen, except for you lived in Moscow.

[@recoil53]

@@chowwh308 Well there are some caveats to that. Authoritarians really seem to like their mega projects. Makes them feel powerful. The West built what they thought they had a market for. No real use for it. The Soviet cosmonauts themselves say the space capsules were poorly built death traps. And those achievements really seemed to stop about the time you'd expect WWII era German scientists to age out. So yes, they were the first to space and to put living things up there. They sent probes to Venus. IIRC they put nobody on the moon and nothing on Mars. Nothing deeper than that either.

[@user-di1mq8zq9b]

@@germanleben8297seems like you never lived in USSR

[@carolekjellander8917]

The younger generation seems to acknowledge that going backwards is not as beneficial as learning available lessons from history and moving in the direction of progress.

[@Patrick42567]

And that my friend means, there's hope...

[@carolekjellander8917]

@Patrick42567 I hope humanity overcomes these 3 existential threats: the 6th great mass extinction stemming from climate change, AI deciding to eliminate us, and genocidal wars rather than whole world collaboration. 🌎 Greed, hatred, and delusion will destroy us unless we overcome them.

[@tobiast5908]

Then they should realize also that portions of the former tsarist empire that through time broke away to form independent countries are to be respected and current borders are not to be moved by force.

[@alexeyigonen3170]

​@@SovietForeignAgentsocialism is state capitalism, an unpleasant but necessary stage before communism. You should have read Lenin on this topic before praising socialism

[@philipd9901]

But why didn’t the USA and NATO leave history alone in the 2000s, but dragged it all into the 21st century?

[@daivi777]

Older people remember the USSR fondly for psychological reasons. They were just young people back then and that's why they associate those times well. They confuse good memories of carefree youth with the regime.

[@user-qj5dj5hk1y]

You 're talking stereotypes . But this is not so even from an economic point of view , the USSR ranked second in the world , occupying 20% of the world economy .

[@telebubba5527]

@@user-qj5dj5hk1y I would not believe any 'Soviet' figures. It's what caused their demise. Absolutely nothing was reported accurately. Gorbatshov tried to turn that around with Glasnost and Perestroika, but it was already too late. The Soviet Union was built on lies, from top to absolute bottom (think toilet lady and garbage handler). Putin who doesn't know any better is bringing these same things back, and now it will kill Russia itself.

[@fz1576]

​@@user-qj5dj5hk1y Nah. I was about eight when it collapsed. I remember when I was four my father had to get up at five in the morning to get us milk, I remember when I was five my older brother had to take me to the shop to get us a little bread. I remember how difficult it was to get new furniture, how my father had to register himself and wait for years. And I remember a buffet at a local polling station with some rare delicacies and a long queue of people hoping to buy them - a way of encouraging citizens to vote for the only candidate on the list. Even though it was ranked second in the world, the economy was military-based and consumer goods and services were of poor quality. More importantly, scarce. I mean, I loved my toys and I think I had a good childhood, I didn't know any better. And I can imagine that adults can have good memories of that time. But it was all right until you conformed to the rules and didn't seek freedom of thought or basic human rights.

[@user-qj5dj5hk1y]

@@fz1576 You remember the times of perestroika. And there is no need to lie in the USSR there were no problems with bread and milk in canteens, bread was on the table for free. Maybe he was inferior to the West in material goods, but there were other benefits , there was no unemployment , inflation was minimal (the price was written on the goods) and in general it was easier and more fun to live.

[@fz1576]

​@@user-qj5dj5hk1y Haha, I'll skip the accusations of lying, as I'm just sharing my experience. Due to my age at the time, I don't know what was in the canteens, as at best I could only witness those in my kindergarten. As for shortages, there was no milk in my local milk shop unless you made sure you got your place in the queue well in advance. And there was a shortage of bread in the local bread shop too. The queue was long and each person could only get so much of their share. It was not enough for the whole family, so my head had to be counted at the cash desk. I'd attribute the "more fun to live" part to the message the OP was trying to get across. Once again, the "easy life" was only possible for those who learned to ask no questions or supported the regime.

[@janetgillette2955]

I was impressed by the thoughtful reasoning in general of the mostly young who replied.

[@halfer2011]

Young people are the future!

[@squeakycleannnn]

yeah, but they're naive

[@gaoxiaen1]

They didn't have to grow up on potatoes, cabbage, and bread (if they were lucky).

[@squeakycleannnn]

A bit tougher job lies ahead as now they gotta grow some balls big enough to make a revolution or collapse as a nation.@@gaoxiaen1

[@GabrielPettier]

and i was extremely unimpressed by the "journalist"'s response… 😆

[@michaelherron4306]

Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.

[@squeakycleannnn]

especially a planted nostalgia

[@Indian_Rajput]

Yeah it totally activates 5 sense organs

[@squeakycleannnn]

That striked me as the first impression, however I wouldn't call them fools, they are likely the least affected/brainwashed people they have left in russia. I think they are the ones the govt is most afraid of.@@zdf4308

[@JohnWerner-te5zy]

Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.

[@shoelacedonkey]

Nostalgia is a longing for a time that never was...

[@paunitka7]

My grandmother was born in USSR. When I was little, I heard the name "Lenin" and it sounded to me a little bit like the Polish word for "lazy", so I started chanting "lazy Lenin". It was at home, nobody could hear, mind you. I remember the look of utter terror in my grandmothers's eyes... Yeah, it must have been a great country, lots of kindness there and mutual help between people. :/

[@WangAiHua]

You are wrong--It was a rotting s**thouse! People helped turn other people in to the authorities even with lies or misunderstandings---people feared their neighbours knowing that about every tenth neighbour was a commie nutbar who would not refrain from using the system against you--Of course, everyone was "nice" bribefully so to their neighbours lest they get deported to Siberia because their neighbour thought that you held out on "sharing" something that you got from somewhere else. The rotten system led directly to the break-up of the USSR and EVERY SSR gladly separated from that h**lhole. Most of those who would tell you the truth and complain about the system are DEAD or in the vast wilderness where you will never hear their screams. The USSR was only good for those who SUPPORTED the tortures of the millions of others who needlessly SUFFERED. Your grandma certainly would be terrified if someone in her family had been heard saying "lazy Lenin" BACK THEN--as it could have meant death or complete ruin of their lives if one of the neighbours had heard and reported it!

[@user-tz1vj2oi6l]

Soviet era was unmarkable terror -The stalin killed all wounded soldiers after war II - he sent them to gulags to die !

[@user-lr8vi4gb1e]

@@WangAiHua это верно для эпохи Ленина и Сталина. Перед своим распадом СССР уже не был таким. Конечно, он не был свободным, но такого, как вы говорите, в те времена уже не было.

[@user-lr8vi4gb1e]

@@user-tz1vj2oi6l раненых, разумеется, никто не убивал. Для инвалидов были созданы специальные приюты, которые пропаганда выдаëт за тюрьмы. Речь идёт о тех, которые вообще не могли позаботиться о себе. А кто мог, те жили как обычные люди, насколько это было возможно. Многие даже создавали семьи.

[@LMB222]

I thought Italians were hairy. This joke only works in Polish.

[@foilcap]

Parents of those kids are about 40+ years old so those parents were kids in the USSR - they have childhood memories which have nothing to do with reality.

[@caiolima5016]

No

[@ashiok]

If you look at other videos on this channel you will see that the older someone is the more likely they will support the USSR, so your assessment isn't entirely accurate, as many of those people would have been young adults at the time. What is most likely to relate to someone's perception of the USSR is their age (younger people are way less infatuated with it), their ideology, and whether or not they found comfort economically through that system (i.e. if you were poor and gained free education--yes it can be said that there were some propagandistic elements to education in that period, but if we're being honest, this is true of all education systems even today) or, rather, lost their wealth.

[@marchvertochko0056]

You’re for sure well-knowledgable about the USSR and how people lived there

[@dmitrysadilenko6771]

Woop, I am from 1967 and my younger son is only 15. I was not a kid when USSR failed. What about 20+? Actually young generation do not know nothing about USSR. Life is much better now but we lost mutual support. And a lot of freedom as the the other word do.

[@WangAiHua]

@@caiolima5016 You spew the Pootler poo! BTW: Hitler and Stalin were allies when they both attacked Poland in 1939 to start WW2!

[@asynchronicity]

All the kind Soviet citizens spying on each other with kindness.

[@aamorous]

as if in real world that doesn't happen

[@leolei9014]

​@@aamorousbut you dont get sent to Gulag for spying on your neighbors now

[@asynchronicity]

@@aamorous Everything is the same everywhere at all times.

[@drottningsylt]

Most certainly that doesn’t happen nowadays in the west. Right? Oh wait… you say something on the internet that doesn’t align with the liberal narrative and you loose your education and job, because someone snitched on you. But that’s different, right?

[@klausschumacher7126]

Same in the former east Germany....the system worked very well....and people still say it was a good time....How brainwashed were the people in those days???

[@thumtlnguyen3626]

I came from a Communist country Vietnam and let me tell you what Vietnam was like in the 80's. For the first five years after the North Communists took power in South Vietnam, there were meeting every Saturday night in the room of our neighborhood chief's house where they read news from government newspaper, I had to replace my mother to attend because my mother really hated it. People in the free countries will be shocked if I tell them it's not uncommon that police came to my house at midnight or 1am to check the number of family members match family registration card. If you have visitors sleeping at your house, you need to go to your local police station to report how many days they stay in your house. That's one of many ways Communists control their citizens. The other way Communists control people is to control your stomach: food ration which was intentionally designed not enough. What would you do then when you don't have enough to eat or feed your family? Some chose to be informants in exchange of one more kilogram of sugar or one more pound of meat every month. Some chose to join the communist party for better benefits of housing and food rations. Transportation: I had to stand in line for 2 nights and 3 days to buy a bus ticket for my mother who wanted to visit my aunt in another province. There was no right to relocate to another province for citizens. If you want to visit your family members or your relatives in other provinces, you had to fill out an application and ask for an interview with your local police station for a permit stamp. How many days you want was decided by them. Your application could be refused without reason. By the time you arrive your relatives' house you need to report to the police station immediately. Neighborhood informants know that you're new to the neighborhood. Torture of the loud speaker in my neighborhood reading every single day political news and government policy news or our dear leaders did this or our dear comrades did that. Neighbors were probably spies as informants to police. What I hate the most about communism is leader cult. It still exists now. They claim Ho Chi Minh spoke fluently 30 foreign languages not including the ethnic languages and I watched two videos on KZbin and witness he spoke broken French and read English badly. Vietnam has changed a lot after 1990, more freedom to citizens but communist Vietnam for sure never lets go the control of media and free candidates for election. Only party Communist members are entitled to hold government jobs. They vote among themselves. I escaped successfully from Vietnam in the end of 1990 and may I send my deepest sympathy to those unlucky human being who are born in North Korea and Cuba. The two most oppressing hardcore communist states left on earth. May God bless you and give you strength and hope.

[@adamkowalski2042]

Feel sorry for you. We do have similiar history of communism in Poland, it was imposed on us by Russians.That's why we don't like Russia and we don't lime communism. Wish you all good: Vietnamese are known for being decent and hardworking people.

[@anti-commie]

The United States tried to save Vietnam, but South Vietnam was destroyed by North Vietnam and the end of the domestic Vietnamese alternative came.

[@user-jm3xl7rg5k]

>>> I came from a Communist country Vietnam ... What does it have with USSR???

[@Dread_2137]

Don't worry, warsaw pact was almost identical (we didn't have guy with loud speaker). But it's good that all of us that lived through that piece of shit called communism are finally free. We must never forget what soviets did to our people.

[@jamesleate]

@@anti-commie The United States didnt try to save Vietnam at all, that wasn't their motivation. The Americans wanted to stop communism from entering America and Vietnam was where the action was at the time. You can't pretend you cared one bit about the fate of Vietnam, you just wanted to stop communism. And do you realise you are "educating" a Vietnamese person who knows a hell of a lot more about Vietnamese history than you do?

[@RichardASK]

Well done Daniil. Another interesting and thought provoking video.

[@sueduke4739]

Very articulate youngsters with thoughtful and sensible answers on the whole.

[@ksen.harlamova]

​@@uhwakeда! Не суйся в Россию!

[@vulc1]

But still they don't rise up against Russia's current Nazi regime :(

[@keegan773]

Just remind them of the empty shelves in the shops, the oppression by the state, the Gulags and the dire living conditions.

[@olivka7560]

What year are you talking about? Look at Ukriane even with all this destruction as per Putin decommunisation as he said, haven’t you thought to yourself how this country who had stepps and nothing has those power plants, damns, factories, mines etc? Ukriane has not built anything in 30 years from independence. It closed down so many things, couldn’t use it maintain and 5 mln people fled to Russia in those decades and millions to Eastern Europe. Go to Kiev and ask 50+ plus how was it to grow up in Soviet Union. Empty shelves? Just like now there are in Russia empty shelves? Yes. Go to Russia and ask a typical 40 year old what they got from parents? They got a flat and will inherit a flat after parents death and got a car. Now the value of flat is high. Whereas in US young people with those 1000 of products on the shelves had debt and their parents paid of credit cards most of their life. Life was different under Soviet Union- yes you don’t have variety of products but you could get a flat easily, a car, free healthcare and studies, you could pay off mortgage writhing a few years of work. No one took loans. All this crushed after Soviet Union was falling. People could not deal with capitalism and suicide rate was so high.. so high as South Korea or US now.

[@dolebandit9942]

Like Detroit in the USA ?

[@pavelslutsky3114]

@@dolebandit9942 This is not Usa. It is somehow goes by itself like storms in nature.

[@redtobertshateshandles]

​@dolebandit9942 get a job, Mr Dole bandit.

[@YuriMazur887]

I agree with many respondents in this video that USSR is nothing, but glorified past. People have a tendency to become nostalgic for the things experienced during their youth; health, greater abilities because of better health back then. It’s hard to forget how awful was the USSR and life in it. I grew up in the SU all the way up to my early twenties, but then was lucky to move to what’s referred to these days as “collective West”. Only because I have experience of living in both environments I can say there’s a marked difference of life in the two. USSR does not come close in ANY category I can think of. My only hope that younger generation of Russians can see this. So far from their answers in this video it seems that they do.

[@caiolima5016]

No

[@waterrat4285]

@YunMazur: glorified past, but seen from the ‘collective West’s’ point of view this USSR glory was completely next to nothing. It may have been propaganda, but there wasn’t anything about the USSR that appealed to us in the West.Just a dark and depressing grey world; No interesting music, no fashion, no cool life style, no interesting political views or renewal, no philosophy, while poorer countries like for instance Brazil, India were seen as original, authentic, sexy and offered a new vision of life. And we were all against America, but still we were reading American literature, listening to American music, wearing jeans, seeing American movies. Do Russians realise this? Poor Russians who never traveled, nor saw anything of the world beyond Russia. What’s this nostalgia for USSR about?

[@titusbeertsen]

@@waterrat4285 I don't agree with your statement (ik kom ook uit het koude kikkerlandje gezien uw naam), there was plenty of interesting cinema, art, music etc; and many people (at least those on the left) were infatuated with soviet ideals/philosophies (see Godard etc). Sure american culture dominated but it was not like the USSR culture didn't exist.

[@minerran]

Thanks for sharing your experiences Yuri.

[@waterrat4285]

@@titusbeertsen it existed, but in the margin at most. It never got any popularity.

[@user-un7fi4hq4x]

Ване респект за уважение к странам Балтии и Польше!

[@salad7776]

​@@BadBoy-bt6lbyou forgot to add that it was the USSR that started World War II in alliance with Hitler, attacking Poland on September 17, 1939 on the basis of the Hitler-Stalin treaty on the division of Europe of August 1939...

[@sergeyk2181]

@@BadBoy-bt6lb Разве Стаин по сговору со своим дружком Гитлером не оккупировал часть Финляндии и не бомбил финские города с мирным населением, Хельсинки и прочие? Блокаду держали немцы, финны просто вернули свои территории, оккупированные по Пакту Молотова-Рибентроппа. Финляндия вступив в НАТО защитила себя от будущего вторжения со стороны нацистской России, которой правят конченые уроды. Ты марши ZZ имеешь ввиду или марши неонацистов в Москве именуемые "русскими маршами"? "Бандеровцы" никого не вырезали, нет ни одного пруфа. А вот 21 000 пленных поляков по Пакту Молотова-Рибентроппа Сталин приказал расстрелять в Катынском лесу. Лизать жопу китайским хозяевам это прирогатива Zигометов.

[@BadBoy-bt6lb]

​@@salad7776Really? And you don’t need to remember about Munich? And the fact that before that Poland and Germany attacked Czechoslovakia is also not necessary? Don’t you want to remember how the USSR asked Poland for a corridor for the passage of the army to help Czechoslovakia? No? What is Poland then? said? Let me remind you: “We will shoot down every USSR plane that flies over our territory.” Has Poland won much after this?) The British and British put an end to Poland in Munich during a meeting with Hitler. Hitler didn’t even talk to them after he took the nearest territories. The Polish ambassador generally found, as historians say, in the corridor. 😂

[@DimbikeY]

@@salad7776 А кто Европу пожирал до 1939-го года, тупенький?) В любом случае, в 1939-ом Прибалтика и прочие страны единолично были бы сожраны Гитлером. СССР отодвинул границы от экономического центра

[@salad7776]

@@BadBoy-bt6lb You know, it's even funny, this made-up story about the "Soviet aid corridor" for Poland in 1939 🤣 Ukraine received the same "help" from Russia on February 24, 2022.

[@robertlangland3351]

The USSR official records detail 799,455 executions (1921-1953), around 1.7 million deaths in the Gulag, some 390,000 deaths during the dekulakization forced resettlement, and up to 400,000 deaths of persons deported during the 1940s, with a total of about 3.3 million officially recorded victims in these categories.

[@caiolima5016]

No

[@starseed8087]

For russians it were great times in comparisson to Putin times 😅

[@tesakpetuh]

You know it better

[@Ironsatyr]

When they refer to "everyone was...", do they recall the 4 million murdered?... But the thing I wonder most, Daniel, is; do they realize they are going to lose the war and have to pay for the reconstruction of Ukraine? Say hello to food lines, etc, that will come again

[@carisaunders2346]

I think most people in Russia today would not believe your information. The past was not spoken about. Certainly, education has not taught any of this, I don't know if those alive during those times realize how widespread the death and atrocities were. I fear they will soon get to know this history first hand.

[@zollen123]

Here is the thing: you can't have market economy without independent rule of law and protected rights of ownership.

[@antonsiberian]

Thanks captain obvious. Everything is relative. In compare with the Soviet times, now it's mostly market economy anyway (with huge government influence). I myself have small business, so tell me that there is no market economy. There is.

[@user-jm3xl7rg5k]

So, the countries stealing cars from Russian tourists -- have no market economy? Seems reasonable.

[@Art-ui3ek]

you also can belive in unicorn...

[@zollen123]

@@antonsiberian A primitive one. Yes.

[@king10334]

Never back again!

[@anti-commie]

I live in Russia. Among the uneducated population, the ideas of returning to the USSR and love for Stalin are very popular. this speaks volumes about who supports these ideas.

[@nauticalnovice9244]

I don't know about the education system in Russia but in my country Hungary there's a ton of propaganda against socialism and Stalin, may be the same in Russia.

[@xlukas93]

@@nauticalnovice9244 Against or for? What propaganda against stalin in russia? They literally build statues to stalin now

[@nauticalnovice9244]

@@xlukas93 I said "maybe", and if that's the case, that's why the "educated" wouldn't went the USSR back.

[@maksim05makarov]

«Если человек против Иосифа Сталина, то он обязательно за Адольфа Гитлера»

[@VoukVoukVouk]

если бы их реально перенесли бы в СССР, то они выли бы "верните нас обратно" if they were actually transferred to the USSR, they would howl “bring us back”

[@sergeyk2181]

При совке люди были сплоченней, аж 2 миллиона доносов написали на своих соседей ради вероятности мизерной выгоды.

[@piratharper8939]

Так доносы писать это традиция стран запада.

[@lf6756]

​@@piratharper8939I don't think so, even when France was occupied, there were not so much denunciations... Even if it was already too much. A lot of people know drug dealers, and they don't warn the police or so, ... I don't understand on what you rely on to say that...

[@momala3919]

@@lf6756 Halimi A. 1983. La Délation sous l’Occupation. Paris: Alain Moreau There were much more denunciations

[@pavelslutsky3114]

@@lf6756 May it is not like that in France now. It was not like that in times after maybe 50's in USSR. And sure not in the late USSR. But it's common in northern europe, usa, canada.

[@lf6756]

@@momala3919 but there were far less jews deported in france compared to the country size than in belgium or Netherlands. A lot of people protected them, even if maybe even more keep quiet.

[@guidobolke5618]

Ah the soviet times: Everything was so good that we drank all the time! Or was it the other way around? I can't remember. But it was so much fun.

[@maksimbonn]

Н И К О Г Д А

[@ripsalidopsishatiora3059]

👏👏👏

[@fotticelli]

I grew up in commie times and there was not much that I remember that was positive. Even as an older child I realized that it was Soviet occupation. I guess I learned that from my family even though that was not discussed with me directly since I was too young. I was against the communist government and I ended up living abroad, not all by choice. Those were bad times. I'm glad to see Poland a free country and growing in prosperity. I hope they have enough sense to keep arming themselves so together with other countries in the region they can keep Russia within its borders. I hope the Ukrainians will free themselves soon as well.

[@leonardoorellano6652]

free ? the first thing you guys did when leaving the warsaw pact was to join another union/pact.

[@marmatian5314]

​@@leonardoorellano6652😂😂😂😂 guess why!?

[@alexeyigonen3170]

​@@leonardoorellano6652nato and eu are unions of the free countries. No one joined the Warsaw pact freely but thru occupation. Only loose Russian minds can see these as equals

[@user-cw6st5zy3p]

@@marmatian5314ну потому что вам нужен кнут и хозяин .

[@leonardoorellano6652]

quite frankly it truly baffles me that poland leaves a military alliance and joins a polar opposite organization. I understand the argument not being beholden to anybody and being free and all that... Say like Switzerland or austria. but joining a diametrically different organization is truly flabbergasting @@marmatian5314

[@paulheald3099]

I travelled to the former East Berlin in the late eighties which was supposed to be the showpiece of communism . It did not work their showpiece department store was like a warehouse with nothing in it but randomley placed objects for sale the majority of the shelves were bare . I had a list of things i was not supposed to buy because they were in short supply in the East not that there was anything worth buying apart from say one thing we were buying East German cameras as the lenses were fantastic . I remember joining a queue for food only to get to the counter to see next nothing for sale . I really do feel sorry for people trapped under communism it does not work . Sorry it does work for the chosen self elected few at the top .

[@1midnightfish]

"it does work for the chosen self elected few at the top": yup, just like capitalism. Let's keep trying to come up with something better!

[@paulheald3099]

@@1midnightfish Hey you may have a minor point there. Unless you have seen first hand what passed for acceptable in the form of crumbling buildings and infrastructure In East Berlin in the so called showpiece. Did you ever go to the East my friend ? If you did then you know what I’m talking about if you did not then pass comment on something you know and have seen first hand .

[@1midnightfish]

@@paulheald3099 Some people's knee-jerk defensive responses to the slightest criticism of capitalism are honestly amusing to me, maybe because I've never believed in either soviet communism nor capitalism as the "end of history". I do not value buildings more than I value people's lives, since it's people who design, make and use buildings, not the other way round: who cares if a country's buildings are tall, shiny and beautiful if countless people live in inescapable misery in their shadows? I'm wondering if you've heard of the Grenfell fire: in June 2017, in what is the probably the richest area in one of the richest cities in the world - London - 72 people died and hundreds more were traumatised and made homeless when a social housing tower block went up in flames. It had been done up cheaply with flammable material used in many other residential buildings all over the country, which are now deemed unsafe. Fire safety measures were inadequate, and the residents' complaints had been repeatedly dismissed by the relevant authorities. So much for capitalism. Capitalism really doesn't work much better than soviet communism ever did: it's just shinier on the outside, just like Grenfell Tower was before it burned. Settling for the - temporarily - lesser evil is just not good enough, we need to stop worshipping capitalism just like we want people to stop worshipping communism, and keep looking for alternatives that are genuinely better than both.

[@gabe8390]

As a West German, I was in East Berlin at the beginning of 1989. The flagship department store on Alex had winter clothing in the window of poor quality like ours in the 50s. It was shocking. At 8 p.m. more and more people's police came to the square to tell people to go home, a scary atmosphere. We gave our remaining money to East German passers-by because there was nothing nice to buy there, only old-fashioned amber jewelry. Just yesterday, Wolfgang Thierse, the former President of the German Bundestag, told a talk show how he lived in East Berlin. He was lucky because relatives from the West had sent fittings etc. and a heating system. They even had bathing stoves that had to be fired with wood; I didn't know anything like that.

[@gaoxiaen1]

@@1midnightfish Those kinds of things were never heard of in the USSR. They happened, but no one heard about them. Hell, they tried to cover up Chernobyl!

[@jaybird2148]

The older Russians who have misty-eyed nostalgia for the Soviet Union never seem to understand that the Soviet Union's economic collapse was all but inevitable, and the its future unsustainable. Gorbachev knew this.

[@zafiroshin]

For some reason they all believe it was Gorbachev's fault that sold the country to USA. Nobody ever explained her that the communist system was rot at the foundations. The level of ignorance in russia is astronomical

[@user-qj5dj5hk1y]

Your words would be in the ears of the USA . The United States was bound to collapse in the 30s during the Great Depression, but no one even thought of collapsing the country for this reason.

[@jaybird2148]

@@user-qj5dj5hk1y The Great Depression was primarily the result of market panics. The Soviet Union's economy collapsed because the West literally spent it to death in a bid to maintain a bloated military, nuclear arsenal, along with a bloated bureaucratic state system.

[@user-qj5dj5hk1y]

@@jaybird2148 You write about the reasons, but for a simple layman, the consequences are important, (although the consequences of both situations are not comparable) . It was possible to get out of this crisis in the USSR without destroying the country .

[@user-jm3xl7rg5k]

@@jaybird2148 >>> The Soviet Union's economy collapsed because the West literally spent it to death in a bid to maintain a bloated military This is a myth. Actually, before Gorby's idiotic economic "experiments" -- Soviet economy felt perfectly.

[@kabardinka1]

I love it when people talk about "the kindness of social interactions in the USSR." The reality is there was a great deal of pettiness, judgement and ratting others out over jealousy and vindictiveness.

[@caiolima5016]

No

[@1midnightfish]

@@caiolima5016 Yes. It's literally one of the best-known facts about the soviet union

[@squeakycleannnn]

Yep, one word from your neighbour about how he heard you saying wrong things about govt and ur toast. Didn't have to be true either.

[@marchvertochko0056]

@@1midnightfishoh yeah, you are for sure aware of it since you lived there

[@mmitleidt7969]

But what is said about interpersonal relationships is correct. Russians who emigrated to the West missed this. Western insurance agents at the time reported that the Russians were easy to fool because of their trust in other people. In communist countries, where everyone had practically the same thing, this dog-eat-dog society didn't exist and people treated each other differently. Of course, we are talking here about how normal people interact with each other. The corrupt elites, the KGB, the corrupt communist party officials and all that crap is a completely different topic.

[@jerrysartain2539]

Best podcast on YT in my humble opinion. BALLS OF STEEL!

[@FTFLCY]

There is so much naivety from these young people. I visited Moscow (from London) in March 1990 and I was horrified. I expected it to be grey, but not so utterly decrepit. I had a pen friend from the DDR who was studying in Moscow for a year, and he showed us around the non-touristy parts. We went to a giant flea market in front of a decayed old stadium (there were workmen on the roof with huge pots of hot tar - not a safety measure of any kind). A man heard my English, grabbed my jacket, shouted "Bush" and spat on the ground. We took an ancient Moskvitch taxi back to the hotel (Cosmos) which had one rear door welded up, and driven by a driver stinking of vodka. The road was wet and he lost it more than once. Terrifying. Had it not have been for the recently opened McDonalds I think we'd have starved as the hotel food was inedible. It was a fascinating week, but I said I could see no dignity anywhere of any kind. Communism was broke. What they provided was awful, and they couldn't even afford that any more.

[@user-ns3rm8vj8d]

Да только это уже было время анархии, фактически гражданской войны, а где то и голода, не во время вы приехали.

[@Mmjk_12]

I spent time in the Cosmos lmao, truly awful hotel, as you say the food is inedible and i think even my now dead nan had more modern decor in her home. A week after i left in 2018 the place caught fire and nearly burnt down. It truly is a metaphor for Russia.

[@andersgrassman6583]

"Communism was broke" - That's right! People seem to forget the USSR ceased because it was broken in every respect. The main reason Gorbatchev wanted peaceful relations with the USA, was there was no way the USSR could match the increased military spending in the USA driven by the Reagan administration. Specifically the probably insane "Star Wars" anti ballistic missile research finally broke the Soviet bank - without it even having actually started! And now Putin is restoring this kind of Soviet economy, because next year 30% of th government spending is going to finance the war in Ukraine! You can imagine what will happen to infrastructure, schools, pensions and healthcare!

[@user-ni1ng6pq5o]

Please tell more about food in hotel

[@JamesSmith-ix5jd]

I couldn't really get what was your point.

[@masonjones3780]

I remember a friend’s parents telling me when the wall came down they went to a store in West Berlin and the door opened automatically. They didn’t know what to do. Enter or not. Had nothing like that where they came from!

[@raymondvella7560]

I was on the east German border in 1984. A factory employing 2000 people on the other side and I counted 6 Trabants in the parking lot. Not to mention the automatic guns, German shepherd dogs on long wires to deter anyone trying to escape and the watch towers armed with machine-guns. The climb up the tower must have taken a long time. Workers' Paradise!

[@moggadah]

I think you could ask people in the USA if they would like to have the good old times from the 20th century back and they would answer in the same fashion. A sense of belonging, people were kinder, nowadays people are more selfish. Etc. Maybe we don't have to travel back in time to make the present day better, we just have to look at each other and be willing to help

[@war-painter]

Are you joking? And have a young person deprived of their cell phone, the internet, their laptop or streaming television for a day, a week, god forbid, a YEAR? Oh sure I remember the good old days hitchhiking around Europe alone without any of the above. A young person today would not dare.

[@moggadah]

@@war-painter yes for me life was more fun then. In te early 90s, in my late teens I traveled with a few friends in a car through a couple of European countries (outside my own European country) both west and east. We had no cellphone. We used telephone booths to phone home.

[@Henning_Rech]

You mean, those people who want to "Make America Great Again"? - like in the 70s? - oh no, there was Vietnam - the 60s! - hmm, race segregation - so the 50s for sure - Cold War? - then WW2, Great Depression, ..., Guilded Age, Slavery, ...

[@bastogne315]

4.50.. cant imagine saying hello comrade in Brixton in the 90s.

[@karenatha7890]

Now ask poor young people in rural areas!

[@antonsiberian]

Please no, it will be another cringe😅

[@mememejst]

@@antonsiberian Why? It's clear that central planning was better for rural parts of the country, becuase the system did it's best to redistribute the wealth equaly. As opposed to free market that tends to accumulate capital in the big urban centers. It's pretty reasnable that those poeple would be more favrourable to the USSR.

[@antonsiberian]

@@mememejst because I'm old enough and I lived in the Soviet times, and I know what is central planning and wealth distribution, I didn't liked the system at all.

[@mememejst]

@@antonsiberian It's reasnable to say you didn't like it. But all you have today is what remained from that peroiod. Same road, same bus, just patched up a little.

[@antonsiberian]

@@mememejst no it's not, I live in the new residential area, built 10 years ago with new roads. So there is nothing Soviet around :)

[@Rodisflawless]

Young Russians have no idea what USSR was like. Weird question to ask really.

[@victorhopper6774]

just like younger americans think the 60's was a better time than now.. i am sure for some it was but not for most.

[@antonsiberian]

If you don't like their opinion. My father thinks mostly the same. He is 70.

[@alexanderlunacharsky96]

We live in a country where the legacy of the USSR is still at work. But how you know what it was like in the USSR is a mystery. But certainly not from anti-Soviet propaganda, of course.

[@__beer__]

'its now considered normal to kick open a doctors door' wtf....??!

[@LeslieHelwig-py3cv]

Lyrics? In case Ukraina was meant as "doctor"...

[@fd2824]

My memories of the communist period are still vivid. I don't remember a single positive thing about the regime imposed on my country by the Russians. For those who naively believe that communist “equality” is a great idea, let me tell you how it was implemented. There was a small class of very rich, very privileged people (much smaller than in capitalist countries) and the rest of us: not the equally rich, but the equally poor. The dream was achieved: we were all equal. Well, some more equal than others. [EDIT] It seems that some commentators below also consider the Russians who were part of the system as victims; as if Stalin or other "non-Russian" leaders were the only ones who did all the bad things and the "true Russians" bear no responsibility. No! The entire system, which lives to this day, was formed by Russian citizens, raised in Russian culture and perpetuated by Russians. Own it!

[@mpingo91]

_"There was a small class of very rich, very privileged people (much smaller than in capitalist countries) and the rest of us"_ *** True! There were special stores with curtained display windows where you could buy consumer goods and even food without rationing. Accessible only to party officials, police and secret police, military officers. Some of them only accepted dollars. And possession of foreign currencies was forbidden. So they were (in practice!) accessible to criminal circles, the so-called "socially close element" - informers of the secret police or people who had relatives abroad. For this reason, they were under surveillance. Ordinary people not only had many things rationed, but also needed permission for some things (such as buying a telephone and hooking it up to the network). If you didn't like the party - you didn't get a phone even if you had money. The party's first secretaries even collected luxury Western cars (Jaguars, Porsches) and luxurious clothes, and in speeches breathed hatred of bourgeois consumerism. It even got to the point that one of them stated that when he heard that a worker wanted a car - he wanted to shoot him. Real jeans were an almost unrealizable dream for a teenager. Travelling? Where could you go and what could you do while earning the equivalent of $20 a month? You could go - if you were an apparatchik, secret policeman or aspiring party youth activist, and you pledged to spy on or surveillance other participants in the trip or the diaspora. Then the state would give you a passport (because it was the state that kept the passport, you didn't have one at home) and even allocate money for the trip. Plus an intelligence task to perform. Terrible times! Many don't remember, the rest are lying.

[@ocean440]

Same... Independence for Republic of Sakha (Yakutia). Freedom for indigenous people of Siberia🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@user-hx9ui2up2r]

Так русским коммунизм тоже навязали. Причëм навязывали коммунизм русским представители тех народов, которые сейчас больше всех говорят о том, что они пострадали от коммунизма - евреи, латыши, грузины итд.

[@doggi6129]

​@@ocean440 не получит Саха независимость. Даже, если получит, то под кем вы будете? Под США, Китаем, Турцией? Только не говори, что сами. У вас экономика будет на уровне Зимбабве, а то и хуже. Чечня тоже была независимая 3 года. И что? Чего она добилась этим? Всё разрушено, экомика стоит, люди бедные. Если хочешь так же, то, пожалуйста

[@doggi6129]

​@@user-hx9ui2up2rвот именно. Сначала развалили Российскую Империю. При чём не русские. А потом ещё русских винят в оккупации. Хотя НИ ОДИН правитель СССР не был русским

[@Tindovich]

Это довольно сложный вопрос, о котором нельзя быстро сказать. Хотелось бы вернуть СССР, но в другом, модернизированном виде, с изменённой системой, с отсутствием бюрократии, с настоящей советской республикой, с народовластием, а не диктатурой партийных элит. При СССР было братство, все народы были равны, не было войн этих, и самое главное - был прогресс, исследования космоса, науки.

[@Habik87_29]

Уравниловка и плановая экономика это короткий путь в нищету.

[@exodusmagnusanonimusmaximu298]

I remember you commenting in a cambodian music video 😂

[@Tindovich]

@@exodusmagnusanonimusmaximu298 Yeah, it was me :D It's amazing that we met here.

[@exodusmagnusanonimusmaximu298]

@@Tindovich yes, the comment was "which is your music taste? It is a complicated thing"

[@lalibelalumumba7623]

"I just love to eat too much" hahaha that girl killed me, she balled the whole soviet union with that single jokey sentence 1:59

[@SammywiseG]

The Soviet times were so great that people who wanted to live elsewhere had to escape and apply for amnesty. Also because the market was so controlled the rare visitors from Western countries had their belongings searched and inventoried (especially for blue jeans) when entering and exiting the county for fear of them being sold on the the black market. The planned economic system also faced limitations as it had little room to expand and relied on quotas to be met that would result in shortages such as the Holodomor and Kazakh Famines of the 1930's and perpetual shortages of goods as there was no freedom of the market to respond to market demand. Sure the people were guaranteed employment, education, housing, vacation, and retirement but this came at a cost elsewhere.

[@tonytravels2494]

The Holodomor was a conscious act of genocide; stop trying to minimize it as if it were the result of some accounting error. Wtf is the matter with you?

[@user-qj5dj5hk1y]

Progress in a country is never determined by comparing it with other countries . Progress in a country is determined by comparing its state in a time period.

[@user-ng6wc4xr2l]

The greatness of this country lies elsewhere, namely, that the path of industrialization that the countries of Europe have passed in 100 years, it has passed in 10 years and in 1945 became the strongest country in the world.

[@Perkelenaattori]

The Soviet Union was so wonderful that violinist Viktoria Mullova defected during her tour of Finland and was smuggled to Sweden in the trunk of a car by a sympathetic Finnish reporter.

[@user-jm3xl7rg5k]

>>> who wanted to live elsewhere had to escape and apply for amnesty "Escape"? Really?? )))

[@1midnightfish]

Thanks to you too for continuing to prove my point 😊

[@Rob-metoo527]

You already have it back. It never left.

[@heyDonnieReich]

And who can forget the Berlin Wall that kept people from going into the USSR, no, wait, never mind !

[@harmless6813]

Well, that's exactly what the GDR said it did. It was called "antifaschistischer Schutzwall" - anti fascist protective barrier. Really.

[@user-ns3rm8vj8d]

😂, Берлинская стена разделяла ГДР и ФРГ, а не СССР

[@free2dialogue]

Couple of things were not mentioned once: - not allowed to travel freely in the whole world or leave the country, if you wanted to - millions of repressed, killed, destroyed families - no free speech - economic failure Nice points are - more solidarity - morally sound on the surface - more respect and care for each other

[@gerryatriesilke]

There was no moral, no solidary or care either... that´s wishfull thinking.. it shoud, it was an idea..but in reality it did not work.

[@streaming5332]

Not true, someone noted that the country was so good people weren't allowed to leave it!

[@free2dialogue]

I remember going to East-Berlin in the 1980s - it was a whole experience. The atmospere was awful. People were not amused in the East. I guess everybody did their job in a low key way, except for the very few. The grumpiness, omg. One keeps fascinating me - there is something when you live in a totalitarain state, that people enjoy. Maybe it is about having no burden of responsibility - as the state decides everything for you. Why do people now enjoy believing all the propaganda lies of the Kremlin? They say "Bucha is a fake" - and people repeat that line, even when anyone thinking can see what Russians did there and keep doing in areas they control. And similarily, in the Soviet Union, people liked to believe the lies. The propaganda kept telling them how bad life was in the West - and they are doing it again now. People believe this stuff. That keeps amazing me.

[@recoil53]

If they were morally sound and cared for each other, they would not have had markedly high rates of alcoholism. Nor the prostitution. "On the surface" means "just for show".

[@danhubert-hx4ss]

Nor divorce rate, nor abortion rate. World leaders there at least...@@recoil53

[@agnosturaelwsr]

I visited Soviet in 1989, as one of very few from the west. At least in the north. It was surreal, a strange world. I dont think thats a world onf could want to live in. Yet today, in Russia, in rural parts people are still living in Soviet.

[@TNothingFree]

I like the people mentioning the Baltics. If everyone could enjoy it then it would be great, but if someone have to suffer for it then no.

[@user-zb8wg2os2y]

would they like to go back to the old USSR and the Gulag system, the only thing good about the USSR is that it is done and over with

[@caiolima5016]

No

[@crimsonfirelily]

​@@caiolima5016So you have nothing to counter with but no. Very mature in your thought process. Throughout the comment section you said "no" to all. That's it no elaboration. Hmm 🤔 ✌

[@ashiok]

Those who prefer a system prefer its positives. Naming a negative as though it's the entirety of the system is uncharitable.

[@irex1756]

You speak as if the whole USSR is only the Stalin era. In the 50s and 80s, people lived stably, the state provided free secondary and higher education, housing and decent work. Residents of all republics lived in peace and built a happy future together. Now we see destroyed industry, economy, total corruption, interethnic hatred and large-scale wars. Chechnya, Karabakh, Ukraine, Transnistria, Abkhazia, South Ossetia, Tajikistan... How many more wars will we have to go through under beautiful capitalism? Let's take Ukraine as an example. In the West, it is presented as a stronghold of freedom and democracy in the post-Soviet space, fighting savages from the East. In fact, all opposition political parties are banned, the population has decreased from 51 million people (1989) to 27 million (2023), 20% of the territory has been lost, there is appalling corruption in the country, the population is being sent to senseless bloody attacks on Russian positions. And with all this, nothing new was built, the country only degraded, like others in the post-Soviet space. The only ones who managed to escape this hell are the Baltic countries. And now they are also degrading, if earlier Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia were the showcase of the USSR, radio equipment, cars, trains were produced there, now the country survives only thanks to the sale of sprats, and the population has decreased by almost 3 times.

[@guidobolke5618]

@@irex1756 But that's the point: they didn't live stably. They only had the illusion of it. You had access to higher education if you followed the party. You had very cheap housing, but you had to wait for it and it was incredibly small. Everybody had a job, wether there was work or not. The 70s and 80s were the years of stagnation. Nobody defended it when it finally collapsed.

[@JD-rt5sd]

It doesn’t matter if they want it back or not - they are going to get it anyway.

[@mmitleidt7969]

That's exactly what I thought. They are already well on their way to a system that will be very similar to the USSR and probably much more repressive. As soon as Russia's economy deteriorates, even travel bans will be reintroduced.

[@raindashwood5680]

@@mmitleidt7969 Who the hell are "they"????

[@raindashwood5680]

And who are "they"?

[@JD-rt5sd]

@@raindashwood5680 uh, the (young) russians from the video?

[@lobstermash]

They won't get the USSR back - that was their colonialist empire. What they might get back is the internal terrorist state as under Stalin. Not the same thing.

[@bigwombat7286]

Having the most land of any country, it follows logically, they must acquire more land to protect their vast country. This is the twisted logic behind PUtin's Imperialism.

[@MeestairRick]

If the USSR was so great, my father wouldn't have emigrated to the US and become an American citizen.

[@user-hy1nq5de9x]

Да ладно мне рассказать американцев которые эмигрировали в СССР?

[@oldman6365]

@@user-hy1nq5de9x It would be a really short list.

[@user-hy1nq5de9x]

@@oldman6365 Откуда вы знаете? Помимо СССР были и другие стран соц. блока

[@oldman6365]

@@user-hy1nq5de9x 8 to 10 thousand left the U.S. during the great depression. They left for a better life. In return they experienced tyranny and a spy label. Most did not survive the gulags. The lucky ones escaped the USSR. A society that does not learn from its mistakes is the currrent Ruzzia of today.

[@user-hy1nq5de9x]

@@oldman6365 Ну ты гений конечно, сравнивать те времена когда страна еще развивалась. Я говорю прл после военные годы

[@anjaseidl4003]

How come, that a girl of 17 pretends to know about Soviet time. "Helping one another". Well, we go back already nearly 50 years. Of course, people "needed" one another more. If there were shortages, because money was spent on weapons...normally you share, because economy is like a barter trade.

[@NaomiVirshbo]

The first girl's response was wonderful! ❤

[@vitalucas9452]

Whether or not I agree with every word spoken, I must say that these young people are certainly well spoken.

[@gaoxiaen1]

Even though they don't know what they're talking about.

[@rizkyadiyanto7922]

​@@gaoxiaen1then how do they say it? reading text?

[@gaoxiaen1]

It's funny that these kids have fond memories of something that they have no memory of.

[@Yuri_Volkov.]

Putins propaganda machine has done it's intended job.

[@margokornas9725]

Yes , but they believe their grandmas and papas and new history books thats sad

[@savage-yp7ci]

​​@@margokornas9725whats wrong? believing your parents about times in which you haven't existed is a bad thing?

[@billyungen]

I remember the stories about the soap. There was only one kind of soap (if it was even on the store shelves) -- something like what they called "lye soap" in the United States. It was bought in giant blocks. You had to grate it into little shreds and dissolve it in water in order to use it to wash your clothes or your dishes or (heaven forbid) your hair. If you had long hair, you then had to rinse your hair with beer or vinegar to get the residue out of your hair. Then, of course, you had to rinse that out of your hair with water. That was Sovietski soap. At least the beef was not bad -- because there was no beef. You were lucky if you found the right line to wait in to get 300 grams of sausage. Come to think of it, what has changed in rural Russia? At least they have soap choices and they don't have to wait in line for sausage. Nothing else.

[@user-qj5dj5hk1y]

What , sochenya that . In the USSR there was soap and toilet soap , shampoos and washing powder , everything was , maybe not in such a variety as it is now . There has always been meat on the market for any choice (you are for the market)

[@alexeyigonen3170]

​@@user-qj5dj5hk1ydon't you remember ration for soap? There was soap but only on coupon papers, and sometimes one could get a couple of bars of a decent quality. Otherwise the soap made of unidentified corpses

[@user-qj5dj5hk1y]

@@user-wd8ed3nn6w And what did you want ? You are now living in a market economy . So there was a market economy in the USSR market, where market prices dictated "supply and demand".

[@user-qj5dj5hk1y]

@@alexeyigonen3170 I see that you are still unwashed . As far as I remember , there were no problems with soap , only in the last crisis situation a card system was introduced for some products , but soap was not included in this list, powder was included.

[@alexeyigonen3170]

@@user-qj5dj5hk1y of course i'm not brainwashed, thanx for the observation. Google "талоны на мыло" and click Images. And don't lie any more

[@mikeorgan1993]

I dont normally comment on your videos but this one I had to. As a westerner who lived and worked in the USSR and Russia between 1989 and 1993, marrying a Russian lady and having two duel national kids I think I have some prospective. First of all as Alina said in the last interview its not all good verses bad its very much positives and negatives on both sides of that 1991 line. I had friend in both Moscow and Omsk as well as later in Nadym. Whilst it is true the living conditions of people at the end of the USSR were not good to say the least. Living on a pension in that period without family support was impossible, on the plus side the villages did look after old people, however that got more and more difficult as the years progressed. My wife when I met her had two sets of grandparents living in two different villages one 54 kms south and one 48 kms North of Omsk both on the Irtysh river. The ones in the south were surrounded by family 3 generations of them the ones in the south were alone apart from my wife visiting them every other week from Omsk. They were supported by the village as best they could and by friends in Omsk. Even then my wife was too proud to ask me for help and so it was only when we were getting ready for the wedding I found out just how bad things were. I did get involved and we bought a flat in Omsk after her grandfather passed away for her grandmother to spend her later years in a warm dry comfortable environment, but hell she missed her garden something chronic and so we had to take her for weekends. In the USSR, living conditions were ok but deteriorating, services were terrible, the police were corrupt and the government local and central useless. The positives were Heath and Education. The heath system was a little backward compared to the west but it was caring and there were hardly any waiting. The Doctors and Nurses were well trained if a little pedantic and far too specialist. The idea of a General Practitioner in a Hospitals was almost unknown, that was your local clinic once you ended up in Hospital (and I did twice) you saw a specialist which in my case was a problem a what they thought I had was eventually diagnosed as incorrect. Because of that specialisation it took a long time to work out what was wrong, however once we got that far everything moved really fast. Education, now some may not be happy about his especially Americans. The education system my wife had in a little oil town in the far north would quite literally embarrass a good school in a major UK or US city. Teachers were very strict but very good and there were a good balance of male and female teachers. My wife's mother is a teacher she started as an Engineer but when my father-in-law was sent to Nadym there was no suitable work so teacher it was. Most students were two to three years ahead of the UK and 4 to 5 years ahead of the USA. The one failure was history which was not history it was propaganda. After the USSR fell both health and education started to decline. Hospital's become a lottery with Doctors and Nurses that might be drunk or worse and conditions that I wouldn't let a dog suffer. The Hospital I was in for a week deteriorated so much when my sons had to have their tonsils out when they were visiting Gran for the summer my wife paid privately as she was shocked at the conditions, but that's what happens when local companies no longer have to contribute to the budgets. The biggest problem post USSR was corruption, which was not an issue it was the economy. Police setting up roadblocks for the single purpose of charging drivers not to give them tickets (I remember the going rate was 50% of the fine). Teachers who expected money to give decent grades and Doctors who expected to be paid even though it should have been free. Even in private clinics the nurses and orderlies expected a tip otherwise you clothes could go missing or your medication would be forgotten. This has changed a little in big cities but its still the norm in small towns and villages. My wife's grandmother left her little cottage to her, when we tried to sell it to give the money to her other daughter who is an alcoholic the local farm manager demanded to buy it at about 10% of the going rate. We actually gave use of it to our friend in Omsk who loves gardening because it had the best garden in the local area by a long chalk (My wife's grandmother was until she retired an Agricultural scientist, she could grow plants where no plant belonged in conditions that would kill most hardy plants. Alina was right, if you wanted to improve Russia you bring back the education and health systems, introduce support for outlying areas and encouraging young people to get back to farming in the same way we do in the west. They need to eliminate corruption and graft. Good luck with that, when your government is literarily a collection of thieves what chance a decent country. Alina will get the exact opposite of what she described.

[@war-painter]

Wow, thanks for that wonderful slice of Russian life! I heard the education had been dropping what a shame, but it had been superior, which is what I didn’t understand about HISTORY. Why don’t russians know their own history, but you explain. Apparently the specialized education for engineers is falling off too. Putin is cutting funding for Health and Education in his new beefed up military budget.

[@mikeorgan1993]

@@war-painter Your welcome, but can I warn you that my view of Russian life is from a westerners viewpoint. Even I lived there for over 3 years I could go home anytime I wanted and had access to things locals did not, such as drugs when I was sick, my company flew them in with staff because not even Moscow had them. The thing about Education and Health is that of the two Health deteriorated faster than Education. The reasons is simple if you think about it. Most Russians up to my wife's generation were very highly educated, so even they were not naturally intelligent they tended to be at the tip of possibilities. That leads to them having the skills to help their own kids even if the system is starting to break down. For instance most kids at 7 were expected to be able to do their ABC's and read at a basic child's level even before they go to school. For my wife's generation that was the responsibility of the Parents and Kindergarten. If a child turned up on the first day of school with no basic skills the school would put them into a kind of remedial class normally reserved for those with learning difficulties and that was as my wife told me a complete horror for the kid. That discipline takes a long time to leave a culture and so its only in the last few years that the levels have dropped. Sadly that drop is dramatic. My wife's younger sister who is 17 years younger was lucky to have a teacher and an professional engineer plus two accountants (my wife and her close sister) to help her but her kids are in school with fellows who are no better educated than those in those in the UK. Communism didn't work that is true but it did do certain things much better than the west. For me Education and Health should never be in private hands the former ends up serving the rich the latter ends up keeping the rich, rich and the poor, poor, there can be no social mobility with privatised education. In the USSR all schools were the same as the British Private system without the boarding or trauma. The funding model was bizarre with companies allocated certain schools they had to fund which also was true of hospitals. Anyway dont get me started on how future societies need to be run, Americans would flip out and call me a communist even I dont think that system ever to work with greedy humans but a mixed system can and is the future.

[@SalimAsit]

2:09 Bless him... He thinks Russia is capitalist! It's an oligarchic, mafia state, dude.

[@dmitriyalaasniy8442]

Dude, oligarchic=capitalism, educate yourself a little bit)

[@eugeniog.2719]

Wow...Blackrock is an ONG instead...and we don't have "oligharcs" in the West...

[@namastezen3300]

@@dmitriyalaasniy8442 "educate yourself"? russian oligarchs usurped the assets of the former Soviet union as reward for loyalty to putin. Do you know that the fsb is responsible for the 1999 Moscow apartment bombings, poisoning Navalny and shooting down mh17 Malay passenger airliner?

[@xlukas93]

@@dmitriyalaasniy8442 Not necessarily.

[@braman2539]

Свинку спросить забыли)

[@TJ000]

"Everyone was compassionate, loving, brotherly. We all got along!" Now, ask that question to a non ethnic Russian, outside of the major metropolitan areas. I would love to hear their take on the joys of living in the USSR. Start with Kazakhstan 🇰🇿. 😁 (Spoiler alert : I already know they kicked out most of the holdover ethnic Russians). 😁

[@user-jm3xl7rg5k]

>>> I would love to hear their take on the joys of living in the USSR. I prefer to hear their take about living (and dying) AFTER the USSR.

[@Northman-from-the-North]

This is the reason why it would be impossible to re-build USSR today. The former satelite states like Ukraine, Moldova, Georgia, Estonia etc hates russia and Kreml.

[@LP-xb5nf]

Do you know how they kicked russians? Just google "90s Genocide russians in tajikistan"

[@YvesPatrickB]

It feels good to hear the younger generation speak so frankly about the USSR era. I believe the older generation, the one born in the late 60's, have lived well these last 30 years under Putin's govern. The younger generation, born in the late 80's has also lived well under Russia's Vova' The Good, until now...

[@gaoxiaen1]

It doesn't take much to live better than your parents in the USSR. Just food and clothes.

[@Sgt_Bill_T_Co]

Of course they live better under Pustin, he lets them steal toilets, white goods, cars and anything else not bolted down in neighboring countries.

[@Dread_2137]

@@gaoxiaen1 Also freedom of speech and freedom to criticize the government (something that russia still lacks)

[@Art-ui3ek]

@@Dread_2137 "freedom of speech" there is no such thing anywhere(

[@jamesleate]

@@Art-ui3ek Freedom of speech exists it just has limits and rightly so. In the UK we can criticise anybody for any reason as long as you don't incite violence. You have freedom of expression which allows criticism and mockery but you can't infringe on other people's freedom. You aren't allowed to spout racist ideas or promote hatred or violence towards others but that is an entirely correct approach in my mind. Your right to speak should not interfere with the freedom of others to live their lives without harassment. We can criticise our leaders or anybody else publicly without being sent to prison and as long as we aren't hurting others, there are no restrictions.

[@willbond]

USSR was great! We put up big long fences to keep people from escaping and when people from the West would visit they would bring their own toilet paper and wouldn't trade us for their blue jeans, not for even an entire sack of potatoes! Decade after decade of FUN FUN FUNNNN ! ! ! !

[@user-jm3xl7rg5k]

"Return to USSR" -- no. But live in revised hi-tech USSR (like in "atomic heart", but without robots uprising) -- YES.

[@josevicentemartins9085]

The idiology of communism and the implementation of the USSR were the two greatests calamities of the 20th century.

[@johnthewatermen]

Now that the Kremlin is moving to shut down VPN are you gonna be able to still communicate with the outside world or will Russia become North Korea?

[@alexeyigonen3170]

They might be new Uyghurs

[@morningstar-.7295]

no one is going to block vpn here not yet…..

[@djrobwag]

On a cruse last year to the Baltic states and as living in UK my eyes were opened to see how much they were controlled by the USSR and thanks to Danial not much has changed in the new Russia. No i would not like to live in Russia

[@ukrainemylove6184]

USSR - poor people , worst economy and slavery in factories .😱😱😱

[@Arshi69]

I am not from Soviet countries but when I travelled to Baku (I am Azeri myself) and asked people especially old people why they are sympathetic to USSR they all said basically the same thing. We had work and no unemployment, we had a place to live, college was free and culture or social life was better. I think if you an honest human, those are some of the factor you should consider when you think about socialism

[@Black_berry894]

Baku is the Capital of Azerbaijan SSR ( Soviet Azerbaijan). Soviet Azerbaijan ( Azerbaijan SSR) is a one of the constituent republic of the Soviet Union ( USSR) & also one of the founding member of the USSR ( Soviet Union). Don't you know that???.

[@Arshi69]

what does this have to do with what I said tho? I am Azeri from Iran @@Black_berry894

[@redtobertshateshandles]

And what does that free stuff actually cost ?? Freedom, and millions of people, their lives. Dreams. Nightmare really.

[@Arshi69]

@@redtobertshateshandles sorry all of you said sounds like propaganda at this point. “Lives of millions” is such a ridiculous trope especially knowing what Azerbaijani went through after “capitalism” and war with everything else

[@mikhailphilippov2862]

When someone in Russia wants USSR back, they don't mean being arrested for trading or for currency exchange. They don't want to get special visas for traveling abroad. They want only positive features such as territory, free education, medical care, industrial and scientific development, etc

[@danielbronsky]

Kinda obvious, no? Of course people want good things, not bad things.

[@xlukas93]

That makes literally no sense. People in russia who want USSR back are the same ones who cheers for current government. There is "free" education and medical care in russia and much better than it was back then, for the course of industrial and scientific development are literally responsible people sitting in current government. So either you want this government OR industrial and scientific development. If they did not steal the money for they yachts and mansions in the west, maybe russia could invest the money into infrastructure, education and science. But if russian government gives 1mil roubles to university for some scientific project and all the money end up back in the pocket of the guy from the government who signed this deal, an eventually in his forth yacht in france - whose fault is it? American? And territory? Does not russia have enough of territory? How much more territory russians need to be happy?

[@alexanderlunacharsky96]

@@xlukas93 I see you know better than anyone how the Russians live.

[@daniellucena9694]

All that you mention has collapsed in 1989,because it was unsustainable.

[@St.Basil.]

Коготок увяз, всей птичке пропасть.

[@adamvoid555]

As someone from a former (occupied) soviet state, Lithuania, born pretty much after the fall of USSR, I can say that those times were pretty bad, there were long queues at the food stores, people had money but there was nothing to buy, you could get some rare goods only if you knew the right people, people stole from the factories where they worked in, in the funniest ways you could imagine (for example tying meat under their clothes and smuggling it out, and so on) young folks were chased after by the soviet police for the way they dressed, listened to western music, their hair styles and so on, in 1970s one young man even set himself on fire and burned to death in a public place, he wrote a short note/letter, that said "for my death soviet government is to be blaimed", so yeah, those were the times, horrible times indeed. Although as I've read and accumulated the knowledge I came to realize, that back then people were more united, somewhat more helpful and compassionate than now, but in the end, those times were pretty bad nonetheless.

[@Bambino8888]

It's kinds strange when we see 18 year old girl in Russia not having a clear answer on whether she wants USSR back or not. 😂

[@ocean440]

Independence for Republic of Sakha (Yakutia). I hope that Yakutia would be free from this terror. My mom used to tell me that sometimes in small village people would die from hunger and if they go outside to protest they would shot in the head or they send to prison for life. So yeah.. mom said life was hoorrible back then.

[@LMB222]

"Pretty" bad? No, it sucked like hell.

[@user-qp5et4xx4f]

​@@ocean440 дурак чтоль?) Пока Россия будет единой страной, тогда никому в ней не стоит мечтать о независимости. Сейчас Россия крепка, и распад её может видеть только враг в своих влажных мечтах. Требую независимости Техаса!

[@ingridvals8266]

@@user-qp5et4xx4f роzzия - колосс на глиняных ногах. Еще когда твоя бабушка в девках ходила, у вас кричали, как загнивает Америка. Вы за столетие уже два раза разваливались. Скоро третий.

[@Adn01442]

I love how are simile, gesture and handshake. God like this from centre Italy❤ the humans are Brothers over each war and policy

[@andreyvtr.2162]

I lived in USSR, it was a TOTAL shthole.........

[@JNosewicz7569]

Thank you for sharing that. My grandparents ,aunts and uncles and cousins suffered horribly in Russia controlled countries. Basically, I am only here because my grandparents had the courage and stregnth to leave everything behind to immigrate to America.

[@youtuber7186]

Crazy how kids born in the 00s don't know about the immense poverty they live in (unless their parents are close to the regime) compared to what they would have if all the common assets weren't sold out for pennies on the dollar after the undemocratic dissolution. Many millions of people who were expected to be born never were, because the economy shrunk so much that millions of would-be parents couldn't afford to have kids. Child prostitution and drug use was widespread for many years after, and these illegal markets still exist today, where many women are essentially enslaved.

[@_legen_da_4842]

And who that all say

[@_legen_da_4842]

Television?)

[@youtuber7186]

@@_legen_da_4842 No, demographic studies, measurements of access to healthcare, education, employment and the levels of wages people could get.

[@alexmeali4686]

0:33 What a young russian guy:)

[@JNosewicz7569]

Maybe a good question would be ,why for the most part, people have left Russia over the years instead of breaking the doors down to move there.🤷‍♀️

[@AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg]

These young Russians never experienced the USSR, they weren't born yet

[@ThePianist51]

6:45 she can’t be serious, can she? Polish and Co. Would love to have a word with her… even former German people who fled from there…

[@pandasong7801]

Serious? She's avoiding serious consequences. She seems to understand totalitarianism very well.

[@alexburakov3109]

Great answers

[@judykarey8150]

Mostly Younger People for this Survey. Excellent Question !!

[@stream2watch]

I travelled in the USSR just when it fell. What kindness? You people were even more obtuse back then. Imagine me, a foreigner, having to tell these kids about this fact.

[@b2rcounter]

calling a nationality obtuse is, of course, tolerant.

[@JPVNG67]

just the truth dude @@b2rcounter

[@user-ye4kk1ry3c]

И что ты мог понять об этом ?? Умерь свое гипертрофированное самомнение(

[@ashiok]

You were there for the fall, not the life of the regime itself, so of course your perspective will differ. I would trust the people who lived there more than a foreign traveler.

[@stream2watch]

@@b2rcounter It wasn't a statement about tolerance. Keep your eye on the ball.

[@mechniack]

Daniil it's the wrong question, ask what people want , ask what they can agree on, ask if a president should be for life, ask if there should be freedom of speech, assembly, demonstration, public oversight, human rights for Russian people, ask about social responsibility, there's Soo much you can ask about

[@droogiesouls8635]

Most of those have been asked in older videos

[@olgadoudesh3179]

I'm Russian. We don't want any LGBT parades, if that's what you mean. And yes, we want Putin as President for life.

[@mechniack]

@@olgadoudesh3179 Do you actually think ( if thats possible ) that gay people actually decide that they want to be gay. No they are born like that accidents of nature, and their life are hard. All human's has the right to love, and what's dangerous with love ( honestly ) much better than war or a corrupt president and his thief friends, who want to be the new emperor

[@nimmha6708]

hahaha you think humnan rights and being able to speak freely like saying "NO TO WAR" has anything to do with parades? Wtf @@olgadoudesh3179

[@nimmha6708]

You want the man who let your own civilians starve to death so he could get his first millions as president for LIFE? wow.. You must have had bad news from the doctor... @@olgadoudesh3179

[@nenukrc]

Vania, thank you.

[@deleteme924]

4:43 "using terms like comrade" That must have been awkward lol :D

[@Gromst3rr]

So long story short, what people would like to bring back about USSR is everything else, except USSR.

[@Yuri_Volkov.]

Shougi runs frantically through the Kremlin's halls and bursts into Putins office. Shoigu : Mein Führer Vladimir Vladimirovich. It's Zelenskyy. He wants to talk peace. Putin : Uraaa. Victory and it only cost me 310,000 Russian sons. Is he on the phone? Shoigu : Nyet. He's at the front door and he looks PI$$ED.

[@bluecanary9417]

They’re getting it back wether they like it or not.

[@thePronto]

Thanks, Vova...

[@tatelabianca666]

03:45 "it's considered normal to kick a doctor's office door open"? what a friendly little quirk.

[@banta-pd8zj]

Im sure there's plenty of tankies left, young or not. Dictatorships exert a strange attraction. Just check out christians for servitude to the strong.

[@ekesandras1481]

It seems like they have forgotten the GULag, the Purges, the Famines, the Colectivization, the Peasant Rebellions, the deportations of millions of people, the forced domicile, the arbitrary arrests, the closed cities, the incredible polution of some areas, the horrible experiences young men had to go through when conscripted even in peace times. Vorkuta, Karaganda, Magadan, Katyn, Semipalatinsk, Chernobyl. All those things don't even come into their minds.

[@user-ij2lr4uw9m]

Главное что ты не забыл, жертва гулага и голодомора😂

[@SiberiaXc20]

У вас, либералов, всегда только плохое про СССР. Мыслите объективно, беря плюсы и минусы

[@Langhorstiness]

How much does the youth want the USSR back? There are somewhere between 25-30million Russian expats abroad living in OTHER countries. This is second only to China for total expats. It really says something when a relatively tiny country of ~143million has so many people decide to move out. You can always tell how great a country is by the size of the lineup at the border, and on which side!

[@itsjohndell]

Sadly their is one person who wants to rebuild the USSR as a Dictatorship and wants to be a modern day Stalin. And that is Vladimir Putin.

[@WangAiHua]

Putler #1 has been dead for many years already. Putler#2 just had a heart attack and may already be dead. Putler#3 is Vasilyevich, the guy running around all over the place--he has been supposedly given $5 billion to shut up and continue on.

[@tonytravels2494]

He wants to surpass Stalin. He models himself after Peter the Great. Unfortunately, all we will remember of him was seeing him wet his pants as Prigozhin marched on Moscow. 'Putin the Wet'

[@vancestjacques7372]

Kek. Srsly?

[@silencestation557]

You should ask other countries who were forced to ussr, do they want it back...

[@user-ye4kk1ry3c]

Эти страны были в составе Российской Империи еще до СССР и свой государственности не имели, отдельными государствами они стали после распада СССР

[@silencestation557]

@@user-ye4kk1ry3c Which countries are you specifically talking about?

[@SammywiseG]

Considering how many of them became a part of the EU and/or NATO I would say the general answer is 'no'.

[@user-ye4kk1ry3c]

​@@silencestation557Украина, Казахстан, Беларусь, Грузия и Армения сами просили о вхождении в Российскую Империю) Российская Империя почти в полном составе перешла в СССР

[@silencestation557]

@@user-ye4kk1ry3c "почти в полном..." You can see yourself that your comment didn't make any sense in this context in the first place. Many independent countries were forcibly integrated to ussr, but of course, russia has always been very good at distorting historical facts. There's no point to ask russians if they want ussr back when other countries who actually had to be part of it, don't want to be in such a mostrous "union" ever again.

[@miks564]

Its interesting how easy people avoid YES and NO ...and frequently opt for leaning a bit more one way or the other, like they're afraid to state a clear preference. ...that or they realize they're not well informed to be sure about it.

[@grakuynosc7270]

They just can’t make up their mind on the spot cause most of them never thought about it before

[@peteowen3539]

How would all the formerly occupied countries think about this?

[@abodabalo]

But their Grandparents steer towards going back, and Young people don’t care for politics.

[@stillalive2999]

Стремятся вернуться в прошлое, а молодежь настоящим.

[@abodabalo]

@@stillalive2999But what is the present, except being in war?

[@stillalive2999]

@@abodabalo а чем преимущество гражданской войны?

[@abodabalo]

@@stillalive2999You mean that stopping the war on the neighbor will cause an internal one?

[@stillalive2999]

я не совсем понимаю, причем тут вообще война, если речи о ней не было @@abodabalo

[@pascalnoel2980]

Let's wait a generation and Russia will have a majority of clever people about international relationship, level of communication, etc. hopefully. And as said one interviewed, ups and downs. Russia is becoming more brillant with its new generations and the old ones disappiring. Again hopefully and a wish for this young and interesting people. What about the same guys in the campains ? In Vladivostok ? Thanks for this Daniil, and other videos always learning me something.

[@user-ns3rm8vj8d]

Ну наконец-то адекватный комментарий.

[@streaming5332]

The answer is Nyet.

[@wakeywarrior]

I remember when I went to Bulgaria, then controlled by Russia, skiing with school in 1987. Wow it was an eye opener. The food was awful in the hotel, all fruit bruised etc. apparently the good stuff exported. The hotel had things like bowling alley and pool, but you had to pay in GDP and the poor locals were barred. Wanted anything decent and you had to go to this special shop that only accepted GDP. My brother got my mother a lovely tea set at 50 pence, she still has it. Locals could not shop in here. They were desperate to get sterling as a result and change money, giving us 10x the official exchange rate to get the GDP. This made litre bottles of beer 16 pence each👍 We got hammered. Communism was an evil, failed ideology.

[@minerran]

What do young people know about a life from 30+ years ago?

[@omikon]

In Russia, young people do not live in a vacuum like young people in the USA! In Russia, young people know everything about life perfectly well, 30 years ago and 50 years ago and 100 years ago!

[@LisaLitvak]

@@omikon I'll surprise you. Young people in the US have usually pretty good historical knowledge. My child came to the US when she was 3, and now she is 29. I've met a lot of her friends, so I know what I say.

[@IngrownMink4]

@@LisaLitvak I doubt it. Americans in general are very ignorant when it comes to history IMO.

[@SiberiaXc20]

​@@IngrownMink4it's absolutely true

[@brianticas7671]

​@@omikonstop generalizing Americans. I am 37 and I can tell you what life was like in LA CA USA 30 years ago and even 20 years ago. A lot has changed. USA is destroying itself from within. Way too much liberalism and too many faction problems. Greed, LGBT movements, feminism movement, etc

[@heyDonnieReich]

Food shortages? Yep. I remember photos smuggled out of the USSR showing the empty store shelves.

[@GabrielPettier]

everything went to the black market…

[@elizabethsproule5227]

Some are realistic about the past but there are some who still have rose-coloured spectacles.

[@buttzkrieg3919]

Lol the first chick said russia is progressing. More like stagnating.

[@jamesleate]

"The best thing about the USSR was that Stalin killed more Russians than Hitler did." That isn't exactly how I feel but it is amazing that Russia wants to regress even further into the bleak, poverty stricken past. How do you save a nation that has been conditioned to want to suffer and be enslaved?

[@squeakycleannnn]

U don't.

[@user-lu4ui4rr5c]

Да-да, опять охренительные истории про рабский менталитет. В 90-е мы приняли помощь от "цивилизованных народов", экономические реформы проводились по указке МВФ и западных спецов. Что в итоге? Уничтоженная промышленность, расстрелянный парламент, разгул бандитизма, президент-алкаш, назначивший своим преемником "горячо любимого" всеми Верховного. И как после такого нужно относиться россиянину к западу? Такую же "демократию" западные страны принесли в Югославию, Ливию, Ирак. Такую же "демократию" несли Штаты в Афганистан, снабжая террористов передовым оружием, чтобы выбить из региона СССР и чтобы что? Самим зайти через 10 лет и свалить ещё через 20, оставив за собой голод, нищету, разруху, терроризм. Так умиляют западные комментаторы, по словам которых, их государства-империалисты, на протяжении веков выкачивавшие ресурсы из своих колоний самыми бесчеловечными методами, вдруг стали белыми и пушистыми, готовыми принимать всех в свою дружную богатую семью, ага)

[@sergeyk2181]

@@user-lu4ui4rr5c каким боком Запад к расстрелу парламента, реформам и бандитам состоявшим из вернувшихся из Афгана лентяев? Террористов снабжало только СССР. Собственно первыми террористами были большевики. "ДА здравствует красный терроро" писали на транспорантах красные предки ИГИЛ, ХАМАС, ХЕЗБОЛА и прочих террористических организаций, созданных совком и финансируемых неонацистской россией.

[@tereterevanakere2132]

@@user-lu4ui4rr5c Вы выбрали бандитов из Питерских подворотни, чтобы управлять своей страной. Конечно, все было украдено.

[@slowmorbius8805]

​@@user-lu4ui4rr5cточнее и не скажешь. Зато они сейчас и тебе, и мне расскажут о людоедах советах, и о русском империализме

[@maxidaho]

How many millions died under Stalin? How many more under Mao? How many times must humanity learn this lesson?

[@salad7776]

From what I checked, Austrian painter ~ 17 million victims, leader of the USSR from Georgia ~ 27 million victims, Mao ~ 70 million...

[@wayne4104]

And how many died of capitalism? Billions. Capitalism kills every single day.

[@rainbowcock]

Урок того что коммунизм это плохо? Какая связь между правителем и идеологией? Никакой. Сколько людей было убито во всех войнах сша?

[@slowmorbius8805]

​@@salad777627 million is it that you attribute to Stalin the death of Soviet citizens, which was arranged by your civilized German friends?)

[@salad7776]

@@slowmorbius8805 According to the findings of Stephane Courtois contained in "The Black Book of Communism", Stalin's rule claimed the lives of 20 million people (of which 11 million died of starvation) and the number of victims of Soviet deportations, exiles, and work in labor camps is difficult to determine.