Doctor Doom vs Superman! | Spider-Man and Superman

Superman and Spider-Man meet for the second time! Doctor Doom and The Parasite join forces, but nothing is what it seems, even as The Incredible Hulk and Wonder Woman join the fray! Never miss an episode by subscribing today! bit.ly/2WYvgkt #spiderman #superman
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[@churchsinger07]

So Sal actually left out one of the craziest things about the Fast And Furious things. Which is it got so crazy that Vin Diesel actually broke everyone down essentially using DND stat sheets then tried to apply DND combat hit point logic to measure out how much damage everyone was doing and taking. Sadly the studio didn’t use anything he did.

[@theautisticguitarist7560]

turning FnF into a DnD podcast where everyone plays their on screen characters would legit be dope

[@creed8712]

Well as we know Vin is an avid dnd player

[@l0sts0ul89]

@@theautisticguitarist7560 facts,

[@Tamaki742]

@@creed8712 He DMed for Judy Dench and Karl Urban when they were shooting Riddick, and apparently Judy Dench would DM for her grandchildren.

[@joeclarke7982]

@@Tamaki742 that's so god damn wholesome

[@ryanmiller6103]

"That sounds like a complicated plan for this book only having 4 more pages." "What?!?"

[@karl_alan]

Seriously, that should be a short

[@the_rose_garden01]

Cops: "You're under arrest!" Spider-Man: "The hell I am!"

[@donkyoofficial]

Parasite's pre-crisis origin is one of the funniest things I've ever heard

[@Kujo_Soul9742]

1:14:22 Seriously it’s so funny

[@user-op8yh6xl6t]

Oh, man. If it had been Doctor Doom and Brainiac, you know that "12th level intellect" bit would have made Doom swear another lifelong vendetta.

[@bacsilva]

7:12 the climax of Betty Ross v Catwoman: Betty, with Selina's lasso around her neck: "Save... Bruce!"

[@JoshWolabaugh]

This book is NUTS!

[@undeaderick077]

So would the elaborate tunnel system made by Dr. Doom be called DOOM TUBES?

[@PowerPackers90]

I believe the Oz crossover was cause Marvel got the rights to adapt the book and not the movie, while DC's parent company WB owned the MGM classic. Marvel wanted to adapt it with the now iconic MGM imagery, flying monkeys, Ruby's slippers, melting the Witch, the 3 farmhands she dreams up as her Oz friends, ect. So Marvel just asked DC about it and they decided to coproduce it and slipt the money 50/50.

[@Volvagia1927]

Basically: Marvel bought the rights because of the movie, didn't realize how much of that movie was distinctly...not in the novels, but no one at Marvel really wanted to draw a super accurate adaptation eschewing the movie specific stuff.

[@calvinjluther]

But like... how much money was there in a Wizard of Oz comic adaption?

[@amusingmoose9924]

@@calvinjluther enough, apparently.

[@tylersaez4095]

47:00 Surprisingly Jim Shooter actually wrote a lot of Superman. He actually made his bones writing the Legion of Superheroes as a teenager. He also created the Parasite which is absolutely the only reason he's in this story. So I guess Shooter was just really bitter at DC.

[@SkylightCiel]

They're holding such a tiny book but this story has SO MUCH going on in it

[@willcrouch2359]

I officially need a Spidey run where he keeps getting 1up-ed by different superheroes and it always ends with the iconic Spider-man catchphrase, “Nuts!”

[@mariazou9437]

Doctor Doom is giving big Doctor Doofenshmirtz energy in this....

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

"Hello, kids! Superman here! This comic has been brought to you by the letter 'Y'!" 1:41:48 "'Y' is for _Yeet!"_

[@Myrmeleos]

5 hour old comment on a 6 minute old video? You got vip treatment lol

[@scoobers90]

@@Myrmeleos Patreon gets it early I believe

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

@@scoobers90 Bingo.

[@elliottroses]

@@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache It doesn't feel like a Comic Pop video until I see your comment

[@theangryholmesian4556]

The only thing missing from this comic is Luke Cage asking Dr. Doom for his money honey.

[@rna151]

"This must be a red letter day for you." Every day is a red letter day for Superman.

[@dwise23710]

Sals voice for spider-man is so funny to me

[@JJA8020]

So I understand that the story is trying to paint Superman as a boring Mary sue or whatever but honestly, hearing about Superman using his powers in weird esoteric ways in order to circumvent problems is kinda entertaining.

[@user-op8yh6xl6t]

I love Jim Shooter throwing in his creation, the Parasite, alongside Doctor Doom like There, those two things are on par with each other.

[@jC-kc4si]

Ehh..you could say Marvel didn't want Dr Doom outshined by a major DC villain.

[@hasthehighground8560]

@@jC-kc4siHaving Doom meet Darkseid and try siphoning his omega effect using some cosmic contraption would’ve been cool.

[@MrWarptime]

Despite this books many many many many many flaws, Superman taking hits then talking the Hulk down is solidly on brand.

[@stillearthbound]

Saw the title and thought "A Superman/Spider-Man crossover with Doctor Doom?! That could be a really cool story!" Nuts. At least it makes for good Back Issues :)

[@ninja1man4u]

My comicpop senses are tingling. It's time for new backissues!!

[@thedukeofchutney468]

I wish they would do a modern cannon Spider-Man and Superman story. The two characters are pretty similar in many ways and it would be nice to see the company two mascots together again.

[@sollyswolly1623]

I always liked how Spidey fit in with the archetypes of the Big 2. Superman is Man's best and brightest light, Batman is mastering your flaws, and Spider-Man is a flawed person who tries to be his best and brightest as soon as the mask comes on. I think that trinity would be really great to see in a crossover

[@PeterTennant]

I'm sorry I love Superman he's in my top 3 Superhero 1 Batman 2 Spider-Man 3 Superman. Dc Mascot after 1986 and then 100% their mascot by 1989 Is Batman. Superman should be their Mascot the moral center of their universe that everybody looks up to but DC WB is Batobsessed

[@creed8712]

I would defiantly love to see the current Superman deal with somebody like doom

[@YouCalledForTheDoc]

"So how have you been?" "Oh, I’m married and have a son now. How about you?" "…I sold my marriage to the devil and gave up on ever having a daughter."

[@sollyswolly1623]

@@YouCalledForTheDoc "Sorry to hear that, my son went with my resurrected dad into space and I missed his entire childhood" "Damn, them's the brakes for superheroes like us."

[@Three_Tiny_Robots]

The "Clark shits himself to get out of a meeting" bit nearly had me spray my sanwich across the breakroom table. 😂

[@Teejturtle]

I laughed so much. Great episode. Also, would love it if Lex was a fan of the Bugle for its hate pieces on Superman.

[@daraghokane4236]

I imagine the bugle being a fan of superman because he doesn't were a mask. Just to anoy spiderman

[@bZman]

This episode left me with only one thought… NUTS!

[@vitanpatel2061]

Terrible story, and it's a testament to Sal's storytelling ability that this video is SO FANTASTIC

[@Depthcharge2030]

Now they have to talk about that Wizard of Oz adaptation on the couch one day

[@scoobers90]

"Go Fast, Bot furious" A Vin Diesel film coming to theaters next summer.

[@bZman]

What a hilarious concept

[@kronemerj]

Go bots are apparently also owned by Hasbro now

[@Hulkzilla0]

You guys, all of you, make every day better! I listen to your Back Issues whenever I'm at home getting stuff done. It's a great way to catch up on comics while also listening to you guys have the time of your lives from either praising the best comics ever, or ripping into some of the dumbest and very questionable decisions made in the industry! You guys are the best!

[@TevyaSmolka]

This crossover between Superman and Spider-Man is tons of fun.

[@EightPageProductions]

This might be one of the most unintentionally funny books you guys have ever covered, this has to be the hardest I've laughed at one of your episodes!

[@Martin_TheCollector]

Simply fabulous y'all. It's a bit rare seeing Ethan along with Tiffany. Ben's goofiness is always missed when he's absent. Most of these DC/Marvel crossovers could've been real good. What a shame.

[@phaggott]

I prefer this pairing, perso

[@xanastarlight4833]

A friend of mine asked if I wanted one of his comics because he didn't want it. My jaw hit the floor when he showed up with THIS book. I think It's absolutely delightful.

[@comixproviderftw_02]

“NUTS!” -This book

[@valiantshadowproductions]

Wait, wait, wait. When's the episode of Comic Line featuring Sal going deep into the lore of the Fast & Furious franchise? I want that right now.

[@Ducaso]

I did not know about the wizard of oz crossover OR the fast and furious drama. That a side, this story is insane! Doctor Doom's character never fails to disappoint.

[@34Vilend]

This book is amazing. Doom never disappoints on the strength of his arrogance alone

[@34Vilend]

Sal saying, like an old lizard, broke me. 😂

[@orngcreator6115]

Wife: Wake up honey! New Back Issues just dropped! Me: Excellent.

[@TheRealZubes]

I love this! ❤

[@UltraVioletSkully]

I kno sal said this book is bad, this episode might be one of my favorite of the recent ones 😂 never fail to make me laugh

[@architeuthis3476]

I love Tiffany's Phoenix t-shirt!

[@judah4808]

From now on I will read Fantastic 4 as if Sue is just a beard for Richard

[@fcm3d]

Man I love Tiff's shirt and hat combo. Aah I so want one for myself.

[@nickyt.2157]

One word to accurately describe this book’s existence- NUTS!

[@davidesterley3163]

Let's take a moment to appreciate Tiffany's fashion sense with the Phoenix tee shirt, the X-Men logo cap and those lovely earrings ❤️

[@davidesterley3163]

@@nonnayerbusiness7704 let me rephrase it from appreciate to admire

[@SpiderFan14]

@@davidesterley3163 y'all are simps

[@cellardoor4189]

@davidesterley nah don’t rephrase it ur compliment was fine that person is just a dick

[@shadowanderson2004]

Probably the creepiest thing about Parasite is that he can tell what superhero is near by their scent and “taste”and it’s explained that he has basically an addiction to the “taste” of Kryptonians specifically Clark.

[@jjpartyman9270]

Can I just say this episode was NUTS! Love the show it's great every week guys!

[@noahgambriel6556]

Superman shitting himself to leave the room is awesome

[@ericmorgan3981]

Ima use that “I have to poop I’m feeling faint” line to get outta work this wk

[@TheVegeta67]

Jim shooter making Spider-man look like a punk while trying to make Superman looks boring is a perfect example of how that man worked as an editor.

[@user-op8yh6xl6t]

At first, I thought him not wanting to buy DC when he had the chance was a rare example of an executiive having core principles but it's actually an extremely common example of an incompetent executive.

[@jamiebradley8323]

He has a second tube!

[@langleymneely]

1:21:22 Tiff beat me to the punch on this one!! lol Sue & the kids are DEFINITELY Reeds ultimate beard! That’s why Krasinsky is wearing one in “Dr Strange in your MOM!” 😜🤣

[@nikcantsnipe]

I was just thinking about the crossovers DC used to have with Marvel. Apparently, Sal was too! This story is a ton of 'fun', at least to breakdown.. Always look forward to ComicPop and the weekly videos you guys put out. Thanks for bringing the craziest, funniest, most absurd comics to the forefront of KZbin and entertaining us. But I do have to admit, the best part of the show is the banter and the tangents.

[@noahcaplan7472]

I M

[@mikhaelgribkov4117]

@@noahcaplan7472 IRON MAN.

[@rayfarr2115]

It is now in my head canon that Parasite's *Equipment* doesn't work anymore. Thank you ComicPop!

[@Stoopid_Sandwich]

Did anyone else besides me notice that Sal’s read for Dr. Doom in this book sounds an awful lot like Seth MacFarlane does when he’s doing the voice for Emperor Palpatine in Robot Chicken? That can’t be a coincidence.

[@karl_alan]

Ugh...I so badly want them to make a spiderman-dc crossover book that compiles all of these & the batman ones

[@driftingswordsmanzer]

That doom bit at the end with parasite my sides hurt from laughing. 😂

[@priceyyeti4058]

Avengers 200, Secret Wars II, now this? Jim Shooter is the gift that keeps on giving.

[@randyping6036]

I am 100% certain that a lot of this conflict could have been solved by throwing some Hostess Fruit Pies.

[@Xtra_Medium]

Here's a fun drinking game, everytime Sal says "Doom" take a 🥃

[@Shootblade]

Fuck, I hate to do this but, Jim Shooter got his start in comics writing for DC, he was 14 years old, this was 1965. Shooters feeling for DC were how Sal described them but, Shooter made his bones in comics writing for DC's Superman and Supergirl, and eventually The Legion of Superheroes, so the man intimately knows DC's super family. BTW he invented Parasyte.

[@CaptainSawyer]

"A shitty rogue" lol

[@DondarfSnowbonk]

As I recall, Clark got away with being a headline news anchor by using Super-Hypnotism on the audience.

[@Sicod79]

The original in comic TV crossover. Respect....I had not even considered the cartoon originally, I was only thinking of the live action Hulk and Wonder Woman TV series.

[@gordondawson-tibbits1657]

I wouldn't have thought that a potential Fast & the Furious/Gobots movie would be intriguing, but I can't stop thinking about it now.

[@kronemerj]

But the go bots are also owned by Hasbro now so they might as well be transformers

[@rafaelfogliato298]

Please, do a back issues on Fantastic Four: Unthinkable, it's a really great Dr. Doom story and Tiffany would love it!

[@jonmercano1138]

Ethan just casually quoting Jurassic Park

[@CptCrash21]

Is this the nerdiest the couch has ever looked for an episode of Back Issues??

[@Woopywomp]

Another one of my childhood comics on back issues. You articulated my disappointment perfectly.

[@jdan4752]

Excited for this one! I always love it when you guys explore some classic stories. I don't have time to watch tonight, but I'm here to go ahead and like comment and download the episode for my shift at work tomorrow. Love what you guys do! Hope you guys enjoy your vacation next week.

[@thomasarcanine]

Word of the Day, brought to you by Aunt May's Wheatcakes: "NUTS!!!"

[@DaDude95]

Sal this tqkes place in the dark multiverse

[@zaphero5518]

GOSH I keep rewatching this and the Superman leaving and Parasite's original origin get me cry laughing every time! I was wondering if Shooter was making him look extra absurd, but apparently he created him!? Why did Jim Shooter create Parasite like this!? He's a fantastic villain in Man of Tomorrow and in an episode of Superman the animated series, not to mention sympathetic in the former!

[@zaphero5518]

Oh gosh, he created Parasite for DC *when he was 14.* He says he was inspired by Biology class in 9th grade!

[@valiantorion5815]

Hasbro (Transformers' parent company) owns the Gobots as well

[@blerdrotic]

I was scrolling through to see if someone said this🤣🤣🤣

[@Joeuphonium_mk._2]

Sal's attention to Forewords and Afterwords has taught me to actually pay attention to those in non-comic books

[@joshuastevens2957]

If I had a nickel for every time Lombard put a sign on my back for striking out with Lana Lang… I’d have 9 nickels.

[@thepokekid01]

It would be very funny to get a Spiderman Superman crossover where the two create a cabal to make their own newspaper company that runs the daily planet and the daily bugle out of business.

[@TheGreatDevlin]

This is a calamity and I want the next crossover to be exactly the same 😂. I'm just imagining Batman watching the whole thing on a monitor.

[@deadpilled2942]

Sal is also Comicstorian. Sal can quickly grow a crazy beard, and change his voice. He does this so he can maintain the comic book industrial complex

[@flywheelshyster]

Wow what a crossover!? Back issues always brings the goods

[@Deadpoolzilla]

Dr. Doom: unleash evil plan: Preparation H! Doom Bot: Uh, my lord... Dr. Doom: I mean Operation H!

[@MattCamara_]

I’m loving all the Seinfeld references this episode.

[@joedee9811]

I wish comics dialogue were actually written the way Sal describes it : Superman -“dude, you know what fuck you Doom” Doom: “fuck you, at least I’m not pantsed by a rock!” Comics would be 900% more entertaining.

[@ToonGal12]

You know a superhero crossover is in trouble when the most exciting, interesting part is Clark and Peter swapping workplaces.

[@seanrector5264]

Spider-Man? Doctor Doom? 1:45 runtime? You guys continue to outdo yourselves! Bravo!

[@Raytheman581]

Nice, earned yourselves a sub with this.

[@ItsOver9000Productions]

Just a few days ago i was rewatching the first part and wanted to watch the second one. So then i searched it up and it didn't exist. I was confused as hell and went looking for it. Turns out, Sal just describes this book in an episode for a few minutes but it wasn't a full episode. Glad to see this today, its like deja vu kinda. Nuts.

[@CptCrash21]

1:15:37 -- Tiff with a very Dolly Parton-esque laugh.

[@kethandennard5136]

Somewhat sounds a little similar to but not that identical.

[@Montaq_]

Loving Tiff's X-drip.

[@TheRealZubes]

😊

[@mr.master2017]

I wouldn’t be surprised if Parasite was included as a villain because he is actually a Jim Shooter creation

[@dariusfrancis-gray3947]

Only 30 mins in and i know this ones gonna be hilarious! Top Notch work by comic pop as usual

[@batfreeze56]

Thankfully, my college has the full Crossover Classics vol 1 in their very limited "graphic novels and manga" section. Unfortunately, that means I've read this story. Buckle in folks

[@darrinwebber4077]

It was the first DC and Marvel Crossover. There were four issues. These were extra large in size. I had all four. At that time I was a teenager. About 13 years old.

[@ctl6985]

I love this and I'm going to immediately watch it again 🤣😅

[@sodajerkclassic]

Fun Fact: Jim Shooter created the Parasite!

[@nigelflood7074]

One hell of a crazy crossover , I never even heard of this one

[@makitoni]

Thanks for the great episode and the Seinfeld references!

[@shadowanderson2004]

My question is why is it never brought up that Metropolis is literally in the state of New York

[@ChristopherZubin]

If someone were to ask me to picture a comic, this is the style and era that would first come to mind. It's like the Ur-comics for me.