Doctor Who 3x12 REACTION!! "The Sound of Drums"

Eric Shane Calvin and Aaron react to and discuss season 3 episode 12 The Sound of Drums
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[@karkatvantas9557]

Saxon was actually first mentioned in a newspaper in the Series 2 episode Love & Monsters. So yeah, Russel had been planning this for a while.

[@therealscarred2112]

Karkat Vantas Actually, he had been mentioned in “The Christmas Invasion” giving orders to fire on the Sixorathax (sp) while Harriet Jones was taken (as Defense Minister, RTJ though he’d be in line to do so). You can hear one of the Tankers mention it before Harriet gives the order to fire.

[@karkatvantas9557]

Nope, that's in The Runaway Bride, which Harriet Jones is not in. That's the order to shoot down the Webstar. There are no tanks in The Christmas Invasion.

[@xiphos8219]

Even longer when you realize Mister Saxon is an anagram of Master No Six. With the Harold Saxon version being the 6th incarnation and actor.

[@fayesouthall6604]

Even earlier saw a Vote Saxon poster.

[@ms_scribbles]

I like that RTD didn't go cray with the Master's goal, and just was creative with *how* he accomplished his goal. The Master is always about ruling the universe, even if he has to do it one planet at a time. Plus, if he can add hurting the Doctor into the mix, all the better. "I am the Master and you will obey me," is pretty much his raison d'etre.

[@TheChiefin]

John Simm’s Master is so Charismatic and completely crazy I can’t help but love it

[@fabulocisz4979]

I like him more in the end of time!

[@TheChiefin]

End of time is great but the ending is so perfect because it makes me say I don’t want the 10th Doctor to go.

[@speakofthedevil3216]

He's my favorite master ♥️

[@charlielynch3916]

I love this version against Tennant as they're kinda like opposites but also both very energetic and charismatic but in different ways. It's almost like Sherlock/Moriarty.

[@i.oagentsteve7521]

Till he went Darth palpatine on dr who's ass

[@osumarko]

Mister Saxon is an anagram of Master No. Six.

[@matthewdixon1433]

Is he the sixth actor? Or is it coincidence?

[@osumarko]

6th actor.

[@Wipeout325]

osumarko according to Davies that’s just a coincidence, but who knows.

[@somerandomguy2073]

Alex Hodgkinson: I'm pretty sure that Alex McQueen hadn't even started Big Finish, at this point.

[@borjankosarac3645]

Gordon Tripple appeared VERY briefly as the incarnation before Eric Roberts, also in the Tv movie... Also, I think the Pratt/Beevers incarnation is meant to be the same as the Delgado one: because he's on his last incarnation in the first (12 regenerations, 13 faces) cycle, he doesn't want to die, and the body ages to the point he's dragging around a rotting, decaying shell of what he once was.

[@whobp8]

A little history on the Master, he was originally played by Roger Delgado, until Delgado was killed in a car accident. In respect for Delgado's memory, it was decided to"rest" the character from the series for a few years. When he returned he had used up all of his regenerations and was staying alive through sheer force of will. His body was hideously decayed during this period so he looked like a decomposing corpse. Two different actors played him during this time, Peter Pratt and Geoffrey Beevers. Eventually he transferred his mind into a new body played by Anthony Ainley who you guys saw in the Five Doctors. In the 90's TV movie he was executed for his crimes but managed to transfer his mind to another body again, played this time by Eric Roberts. That version appeared to die in the TV movie, but was resurrected to fight in the Time Warner with a new series of regenerations. You've now seen him as Derek Jacobi and John Simms. No spoilers about future incarnations, if there are any...

[@bentonbravo3404]

whobp8 Time Warner?

[@thehousealwayswins8398]

I wish *somebody* would send the Master/Doctor to fight Time Warner.

[@Kayta-Linda]

Oh gosh... And again.. and again.. and again.. and again.. This piece of shit just never dies. Why do I even bother to hope every time?...

[@bentonbravo3404]

Кейта Линда What are you on about?

[@bentonbravo3404]

Кейта Линда What do you have against the Master?

[@7xwatermelon35]

Can't wait to see the reaction when they realise what the paradox machine is actually for

[@jeckjeck3119]

The skies are made of diamonds!

[@carealoo744]

The Master: Jelly baby? Classic Who Fans: (Smiles)

[@Indigo_Polarity]

This Classic Who Fan: Grimaces at the portrayal of the Master and how disappointing this two parter is.

[@Indigo_Polarity]

+erosion271 This Classic Who Fan: respectfully accepts your opinion while hoping you agree about the terribleness of an upcoming angelic blue Gollum.

[@Wolf6119]

Man, I remember disliking Martha's mom, but I forgot just how badly she fucks things up for everyone. Good on her dad for not going along with it, at least. What a trooper.

[@borjankosarac3645]

Who do the fans dislike more, do you think? Francine Jones, for being an abrasive idiot that plays into the villains' hands? Or Sylvia Noble, for being such an emotionally-abusive bitch to her daughter that even her own FATHER just barely puts up with her? [...Damn I love Wilfred Mott]

[@Wolf6119]

To be fair I remember at least thinking Sylvia had honestly learned something by the end of the series. I don't recall ever feeling that with Mrs. Jones, though I could just be misremembering.

[@gota7738]

New Who portrays a lot of mums badly, Amy and dead mothers not counting. Jackie got better later but she's still portrayed as being nagging, flighty and annoying. We need a companion who has a really good, middle aged, mum.

[@johnyshadow]

@@gota7738 Or we just need a MILF companion. Sorry, not sorry.

[@keelanbarron928]

@@Wolf6119 I'm pretty sure that the only reason why she turned good is because of the master, otherwise she would've still being hating the doctor.

[@CaptainPikeachu]

Don’t underestimate Martha Jones

[@MRocky323]

BetaArtemis *Don't underestimate what The Doctor told Martha to do. FTFY.

[@sophiefilo16]

The Doctor didn't tell her exactly what to do. She had to figure out how to survive and keep fighting all on her own when it would have been easier to just give up...

[@MRocky323]

She had the key perception filter to keep her safe from anything. She literally did nothing by herself.

[@silverpriestess1674]

@@MRocky323 She did shit tonnes more than Rose anyway :)

[@MRocky323]

@@silverpriestess1674 Fucking what? What Martha did you watch?

[@jaydenyugi9034]

YEEEES!! The hype is real! There are so many good scenes in this episode including Martha seeing her family being taken away and The Doctor's conversation with The Master over the phone. Although the highlight scene for me is definitely The Doctor telling Jack and Martha about Gallifrey. Something about the flashbacks and the music really sets the mood for it so well. I also love the rapport between the three characters. The scenes they have with each other is great! Can't wait for next week! Martha strikes back! :D

[@wittyreviewer]

So here it comes, the sound of drums HERE COME THE DRUMS HERE COME THE DRUMS

[@CaptainSpycrab]

Drum-drum-drum-drum Drum-drum-drum-drum Drum-drum-drum-drum

[@gregorymavungu9783]

BABY BABY BABYYYYYYY! You are my voodoo child! My voodoo child!

[@Triskaan]

That music... All The Strange Strange Creatures and This Is Gallifrey will always get me...

[@MsSharondenadel]

This is Gallifrey, our home our childhood 💙💙💙

[@secpendragon9760]

Their reaction to "Remove one-tenth of the population"

[@bentonbravo3404]

Sec Pendragon Nobody ever uses "decimate" correctly, so that scene is a climax for Grammarnazis.

[@scottredding7357]

I love all the small touches in this episode - the Master’s red lined cape on the tarmac, the way Simm says “the perfect warrior for a Time War.”

[@michaelgillespie9112]

What I find crazy, is that the Master RAN AWAY from the Time War. Seeing what he's capable of, his insanity, it makes you wonder again, just how insane was the Time War?

[@plantainsame2049]

Not that crazy when you know the basic thing about the Masters character he spent decades living in his own corpse and eventually started stealing other people's body's just to survive

[@mjgorgeous]

I honestly don’t think any other companion was Friend Zoned Worse Than Martha Jones 😂 She’s Walks The Earth And Still Friend Zone 😂😂

[@iKaroliina]

I'm sad that I can't leave #votesaxon on any of the videos anymore ☹️

[@LabradorIndependent]

That is a shame, but I think there's something on your back.

[@oliver_burnell8684]

What?

[@Jimmy_Jones]

Bryce Alexis lol

[@Hopper89]

Two Words

[@Supersheep64]

#Reelectsaxton

[@leoinggeo]

Here. Come. THE *DRUMS*

[@MrTheevilmage]

I'm not normally a fan of reactions but Americans watching doctor who is a reaction that I kinda always like, plus its cool watching u guys watch and react, its the perfect kinda tone for when I spark up a phat joint and tune into a blindwave vid

[@Hopper89]

We may not be able to say #VoteSaxon anymore, but remember... Two Words.

[@cthulhurylehhappy9453]

Well... first things first. He will knock four times

[@queenknighthawk6399]

James Whitfield who turned out the lights?!

[@therealscarred2112]

Spoilers...

[@queenknighthawk6399]

Ian Perge at first I was like “wait what did we say, nothing was explicit” and then I realized the reference lol

[@torch_warden8177]

4:20 I THOUGHT THERE WAS SOMETHING DANGEROUS INSIDE MY HOUSE 'CAUSE OF THAT TICKING XDDD

[@PerovNigma]

05:35 _"I like it when you use my name."_ _"You chose it. Psychiatrist's field day."_ When I first saw this episode in 2007 (seven years old) I didn't know the word _psychiatrist._ I thought the Doctor was saying that the Master had decided on his name during some special Gallifreyan festival called "Saint Kyatrist's Field Day". I pictured children queueing in a tent to step forth and declare their name.

[@Antony_Oscar]

The Master was able to hypnotise people in Classic Who.

[@ZakJordan98]

Saxonvoter and it's all in the catchphrase "Look into my eyes, I am The Master and you will obey Me"

[@somerandomguy2073]

Saxonvoter: So was the Doctor. I can remember at least Three, Four and Seven doing it. I'm not sure about the others...

[@thehousealwayswins8398]

Yep, I'm pretty sure since all Time Lords are telepathic, then they as a species would be capable of bending other, weaker minds to their will. But since not all of the Doctor (and Master's) incarnations can do it, that it's more of a latent talent than a species-wide power. The hypnotism thing is probably strong in some regenearations and weaker in others.

[@HuntingViolets]

The Doctor caused the downfall of Harriet Jones, which in turn caused the new Golden Age not to happen (remember how Nine was baffled by that), which left this opening for the Master.

[@pub1]

They tease harold saxon in the previous season too. He was the person that gave the tanks permission to shoot at the rachnoss web ship in the christmas special. RTD would plan the following seasons’s villain a year ahead and place teases way ahead

[@jplegend98]

The first saxon referance was in the idiots lantern. There is an artical about him on absorbalofs newspaper. And the first torchwood referance was in season 1.

[@Tumbleflop]

@@jplegend98 We don't say the _A_ word.

[@stuffandalsootherstuff]

This is the reason I've had a crush on John Simm since I was 10

[@whobp8]

Don't know how far in advance you record your reactions, but I really hope you react to the minisode Time Crash which falls between the next episode and the Christmas special

[@borjankosarac3645]

I don't know why they didn't air this episode and the one before it the same week - I guess they decided to take a break instead for these two weeks, instead of doing DW to replace TW? Nothing wrong with that, just wondering.

[@ngatiramona]

Jelly babies are sorta like Wine Gums, I think. Chewable fruit jellies. Martha was awesome, loved Jack and her with an immediate bond. You all are observant in everything, really enjoying your reactions.

[@matthewbadger8685]

I've tried wine gums before, and you're right that they're quite similar. Jelly babies are way softer and more sugary though, and they crack open in a very pleasant way - Not to say that they're hard or anything, it's more like they contain a gooey interior inside a soft and malleable exterior. Softness inception.

[@AnthonyDuran]

I know this is late, but the master eating jelly babies is also a reference to an older incarnation of thr doctor, who used to eat jelly babies

[@icantthinkofagoodusername6291]

During The Classic Series The Master was Hypnotic He used To Look at people in The Eyes And say You will Obey Me and Gave An Instruction. Think about Kilgrave from Jessica Jones where he could control people

[@gophrrgold]

David Tennant & hypnotic villains... there's a joke in there somewhere...

[@ericmishima]

All I could think of this time watching this was The Master and Kilgrave going .... No, YOU will obey ME!

[@zemoxian]

I would think the Master would be able to shrug off Killgrave’s effect.

[@robertcartier5088]

The actor who plays this version of The Master, John Simm, is brilliant in "Life On Mars" (2006 - 2007) "Life on Mars" is a British television series that tells the story of a Manchester police officer from 2006 who mysteriously finds himself working as a police officer in 1970s Manchester! If you check it out, make sure you have the British version; the US remake was not great.

[@TheoPembo.]

Anyone else pick up on the easter egg at 4:23 referencing to The Idiot's Lantern episode in S2? I've watched this episode countless times and never seen the "Magpie Electricals" sticker on the back of the TV before until now!

[@kaledmasterme]

Technically the 2nd doctor was the first to have jelly babies but they became more associated with the 4th

[@sophiefilo16]

Man, I love this three-parter...

[@garethreid327]

Hey guys I have not any friends and always feel lonely until I found your channel so thanks for being awesome and making me not feel so alone all the best

[@SirDeweyRoyalKnightOfBebahan]

I knew they where gonna like the helicarier

[@borjankosarac3645]

I completely forgot about that, too - it's been years since I last watched the episode, somehow the fact that the aircraft they were ON during this story is basically a helicarrier (5 years before "The Avengers" came out!) completely left my mind. Embarrassing...

[@TheInker]

A fun fact about the Toclafane (that, don't worry, isn't a spoiler for next week): When the crew behind the show started working on the reboot, they weren't sure whether they'd get permission from the estate of Terry Nation to use the Daleks on the show, in part because of the Looney Tunes incident. So showrunner Russell T. Davies tried designing a new monster that could sort of fill their role, if they couldn't get the rights. That monster was the Toclafane.

[@-Dailytainment]

I was refreshing my subscription page every second for this video!!

[@jamesherring5287]

I would love to see a reaction to something like Genesis of The Daleks, as a little prep for the Season 4 finale, similar to what you did with the Five Doctors and the Master

[@AstraRune]

You guys should react to the classic doctor who episode "Genesis of the Daleks".

[@joshuameasimer7708]

This. Watching "Genesis of the Daleks" will give the twist and callbacks in next season's two-part finale have even more impact.

[@Mrazmatmahmood]

Sophia Dashwood Yep, they met The Master in The Five Doctors before they started series 3. They Should watch Genesis to meet another important character before series 4. Plus, The Five Doctors wasn't the best introduction to classic who but Genesis is one of the best classic who stories ever.

[@fizzystarsong]

Yeah, I thought Five Doctors was a pretty poor introduction to both Classic Who and the Master. One of the Pertwee serials with Delgado would have been much better. Genesis would have been great to fill in last week's gap.

[@TheMaster-bg4so]

Is this Crazy Lunatic Who I become?

[@ZakJordan98]

The Master note to your future self, avoid being shot by your assistant so you can carry out this plan as Derek Jacobi

[@alex_gaimar]

note to your future self, avoid being shot by your wife

[@bentonbravo3404]

The Master Tm You'll have to go through two rotting psychopaths, an egotistical hybrid, a campy American medic and a Shakespearian actor, but yes. Then you become Mary Poppins!

[@ericmishima]

Note to yourself .. don't get shot by your future self.

[@thatoneguy8604]

Just watch out for people with guns, You get shot a lot.

[@BazztheBazz]

I love that the Master's jacket has that red inner lining, like the Dracula cape he wore in the old show.

[@travellerinthedark]

Saxon appeared in a newspaper headline in series 2 of Doctor Who (Love & Monsters), which aired before series 1 of Torchwood, so it was already planned and seeded that far back. In fact, want to know how far back the Master's return was foreshadowed in the show? Series 1, Dalek - Rose tells the Doctor that there might be Time Lord survivors out there, the Doctor taps his forehead and said that if there were, he'd be able to sense it. So already it was planned that the Master was hiding as a human.

[@mrandrews3616]

By the way, the reason he is President Elect is because Russell T Davies didn't know the difference.

[@10thdoctor15]

They are chips, fries are thinner.

[@dbilly121]

Saying the Master has a "God complex" is probably an understatement xD

[@noeffortrandomness3182]

This seasons master is like a combo of joker & lex luthor

[@fabulocisz4979]

The skies are made of diamonds!

[@StephanieMaireFaith]

jelly babys are nothing like turkish delights eww, but they are like jelly sugar coated sweets u can buy in the UK

[@StephanieMaireFaith]

yh humans are, but for me i like jelly babys :) but like u says maybe after a box or a packet full then yh enough, can't have more than one box of a packet

[@Chemeleon15]

Stephanie Reacts Jujubes/jujubees

[@Chemeleon15]

Stephanie Reacts Jujubes/jujubees

[@TheMrRobwhite]

We have french fries in the UK, which we call fries, but we also have chips -which are different (much bigger). Calling chip's fries would be like calling wedges fries.

[@TerenceBradshaw]

The Master's plan is the same as always, really: to fuck with the Doctor. LOL

[@legendary7708]

Since Barack Obama appears in the an future episode we can assume he was the vice elect of president elect winters

[@godspeed6980]

Like how they call it stupid that British people call it chips when they call it French fries, which were made by belgians

[@lexiburrows8127]

Being fair, what we English call crisps were originally called 'Game Chips.' They were cut by hand VERY thin, dried out on a cloth, fried very quickly for a few seconds and were served with game, such as pheasant. I suppose the terminology did not move on in America as it did here, so over there the traditional name for them stuck.

[@carealoo744]

DON'T FORGET TO WATCH TIME CRASH AFTER SERIES 3!

[@dbilly121]

Yay, Sound of Drums, or as I call it, the second best episode of Doctor Who pre-2011 with the exception of The End of Time.

[@fabulocisz4979]

The End of Time is my favourite too!

[@jaykparikh37]

its only a little over a season till my boy matt smith appears and we get to react to the famous tennant regeneration line

[@Gadget825]

hyped as fuck for the finale reaction

[@theburgerking746]

SaM I'm a patron but it won't let me view the early access for some reason.

[@Gadget825]

Not sure why since its working for me just fine

[@jeckjeck3119]

The Burger King You have killed more humans than Daleks did.

[@theburgerking746]

SaM nevermind, it's working now

[@somerandomguy2073]

SaM: 45 minutes of conversation after the actual reaction.

[@PrimaryOctopus]

Recommended reading: "Doctor Who: The Story of Martha" by Dan Abnett (with short stories by David Roden, Steve Lockley, Paul Lewis, Robert Shearman and Simon Jowett). It's honestly one of my favorite Doctor Who novels, it's incredible and it feels like not many people know about it / have read it.

[@KrojacicaSudbine]

So here it comes - the sound of drums *HERE COME THE DRUMS! HERE COME THE DRUMS!*

[@fabulocisz4979]

He will knock four times!

[@NonsensicalSpudz]

ahh the RTD episodes some of the best episodes

[@doctorwhumour1105]

In my option I think that this episode has the best doctor who music

[@bel410la]

I know I'm late but I love re-watching and I really like how when The Master offers his wife a Jellybaby and both Calvin and Aaron knew what that meant and smiled because it was a reference to a previous doctor, and Eric was like, "huh?"

[@speakofthedevil3216]

John Simm will always be *my* Master, just as David Tennant will always be *my* Doctor ♥️

[@oliver_burnell8684]

Noooooo, now I have to wait another week! 😣

[@GeorgeEugeneBarrett]

Saxon 2007: “He can tick my box.” Trump 2016: “Grab ‘em by the p****.”

[@ericmishima]

Because Eric was tapping on his cup five times ...."THERE ARE FOUR KNOCKS!" -- in Picard's voice

[@sophiefilo16]

2:51 I've always loved that shot...

[@Thegaminglord4-6-7]

i just cant believe that doctor who did the helicarrier five years before the avengers. the episode first aired in 2007, while the first avengers aired in 2012.

[@itzthemuffinman42]

I’m sorry? ‘Chips’ are stupid?! Don’t get me started on what you guys do 😂

[@yojimbohawkins3165]

If you remember in the Xmas special that led into this season, Mr Saxon orders the army to fire on the Empress of the Racnoss 'star'ship.

[@gaaraofthefunk2011]

Idk if someone put this already, but the beat the master drums out. Is the beat of the opening theme song of the show.

[@somerandomguy2073]

Lord Venar: Yep, Aaron tells them in next week's video.

[@fayesouthall6604]

John Simm playing the master is a brilliant actor. Mad as a box frogs

[@LODintheshadows]

If you want the masters last appearance, it was end of the of run. 8th doctor which was just a single movie. Worth checking that sometimes perhaps

[@rickysfilmreviews3825]

"Chips - those are french fries" (disappointed) "..yeah I know. .....stupid". LOVE IT!! haha

[@noeffortrandomness3182]

The previous master was Eric Roberts in the doctor who movie

[@thejamsterx]

In a televised story, yes. In other media there has been Alex Macqueen and a few others.

[@Chrisweallans]

The Jelly babies is a call back to Tom Baker and yes. the four repetitive beats are the same rhythm as the doctor who music from the very first 1963 episode until... er... forever. But is now a good time to mention the choice of Ravel's Bolero as the work music for the Ood?

[@JeM130177]

HERE COME THE DRUMS HERE COME THE DRUMS *headbangs*

[@aaronsegal6052]

The whole "President Elect" thing is just because RTD didn't know what the phrase 'President Elect" meant. He thought it was just a fancier way to say "President"

[@thestargateking]

I'm just looking forward to the master race

[@Vixon592]

FINALLY! ive been waiting for this video, you guys need to do doctor who reactions every day😅

[@TheNightKingLTD]

I have to say I have been waiting for this and the next episode since you started watching dr who

[@fat4315]

Series 3 is one of my favourites

[@RegianOne]

Vote Saxon was also on the wall upstairs at Torchwood series one

[@TheGreaterDane]

imo, this is more like a three parter! "Utopia" sets up the Master and the Toclafane, This episode punches you with the plot, and the next one wraps it up

[@EdLimaable]

can't wait for season finale and season 4

[@hmsljj]

"The Girl Her Walked The Earth" ..... stay tune

[@benhramiak8781]

Better prime minister than david Cameron

[@jeckjeck3119]

Better president than Donald trump.

[@ryugaknight]

Would really love them to see the original Master, Roger Delgado.

[@josipsakic1963]

hi from Croatia, you guys are best!! 😎💪🙌

[@MegaDraaron]

The master in classic who had literal powers of hypnotism

[@diddyknux]

The president-elect thing wasn't intended to imply that the guy who got killed wasn't the president. Russel T. Davies just didn't know the difference.

[@michaelgonzalez6295]

And now you know why the Master is my favorite villain. The first Master was a much more charming Machiavellian villain. He would be nice and polite until he killed you with no regret. The one you guys saw on 5 Doctors was more Snidely Whiplash mustache twirling. He has gone against Doctors 3-8 and now 10.

[@jplegend98]

Well actually the second and first doctor meet the master in the 5 doctors. Also in a cannon audio drama the first doctor meets the master in that. The only doctors to not have an on screen meeting with the master is 9 and 11.

[@thatrandomaussiechick4107]

real jelly babies are soft jelly with a semi hard shell , covered in cornflour

[@jackdonohue7893]

During the screams when the Toclafane are removing 10% of the population, you can here Mickey Smith.

[@calvinjohnson4172]

Ive watched this reaction probably 10+ times and i just noticed erics mug....is that his mugshot?

[@michaelthomas5249]

The master was killed by Paul mcgann's eighth Doctor in the doctor who movie. If u guys feel like reacting to that, it has Eric Roberts.

[@oliverbennett8515]

Anyone else think they should react to time crash?

[@somerandomguy2073]

Oliver Bennett: They are. They talk about it at the start of their Last of the Time Lords reaction video. To line up with Torchwood, that's what they'll be watching in 2 weeks (instead of an actual episode).

[@soapbabestv5355]

You guys need to watch Doctor Who The Movie (1996)

[@Meerkat040]

They already have, how ever I dont think they have released a reaction for it.

[@concettamickels1636]

Knock knock Who's there? Doctor Doctor who? 😁

[@NonsensicalSpudz]

chips and fries are not the same thing

[@JenABlue-ed1bw]

Somebody remind me next episode to tell the story of the Toclafane, the never-made episode Absence of the Daleks, and how this was nearly the finale of the Eccleston season.

[@JenABlue-ed1bw]

It's got spoilers for the next episode, but I'm posting it in the comments for that video now.