Doctor Who shock sacking update and clarification

I did a video a few days ago saying Russell T Davis had been sacked by Disney. But I totally messed that video up so here is the clarification and discussion about what really happened

[@Mirddes]

the moment they called it season 1 they might has well have cancelled it.

[@Metzwerg74]

true...

[@somerandomyoutubeaccount5895]

That’s more a fault with Disney rather than rtd himself.

[@jackdexter9439]

Perhaps it's time to give Eccleston a call (to see if he wants to come back now that the evil queen is on his way out).

[@andromedaone3640]

Yes good point

[@decadentdave]

“Sack Russell T Davies, sack Jane Tranter, sack Phil Collinson, sack Julie Gardner and I’ll come back.”

[@Mirddes]

@@decadentdave please sack them all

[@donatist59]

Make Eccleston the showrunner!

[@leepshin]

​@@donatist59Now "there's" an interesting idea.

[@tmr4342]

It's all a little too late. It does not matter if they've asked him to step down. The majority of fan don't care and if season 2 is as bad as the current season they'll care even less. The BBC should canned the show after Chibnall like they were going to.

[@DorisDay-lw4xs]

Thats when I walked away after 54 years. Felt like a good cutoff when Jodie left.

[@JDPrice94]

Wrong

[@Mirddes]

the moment they called it season 1 they might has well have cancelled it.

[@johnrider5701]

Russell T Davies is going nowhere and even if he was to be fired the damage to the franchise is already done and can not be mended.

[@thedoctor2099]

I'm not so sure. Looking back at the things that certain fans have been able to ignore (the half-human line, if not the entire movie comes to mind as an example) I feel like Doctor Who will always find a way to regenerate itself, no matter how damaged the IP seems to be right now. Whether we go through another dark era or not is yet to be seen, but I have hope that one day some very clever people will be able to reunite the fanbase.

[@scottphillips6005]

Yes it can, just say everything after Matt Smith didn't happen.

[@nigelliam153]

A good dalek movie would always revive it for the diehards

[@fraxis2007]

This does, unfortunately, look like you mostly made something up, based on a bit of conjecture, got called out on it, and have now made up something new that’s more plausible and harder to dispute. I really hope that’s not the case. Probably best to stick to shows where you have stronger inside contacts and not jump on this bandwagon.

[@decadentdave]

So a guy who doesn’t even like Doctor Who, has no investment or nostalgia in it whatsoever is just making up some total BS on youtube for what reason? If he just wanted attention and likes I’m sure he could have done something else on his channel to get them. Don’t shoot the messenger.

[@fraxis2007]

@@decadentdave I’ll shoot the messenger if I suspect he’s making up the message, thank you very much. 🤣 Happy to be proven wrong, of course. Although when he’s saying this will pan out in over a year’s time then it’s unlikely to be remembered and called out if wrong. Let’s just see if more info comes to light. I remain skeptical on this specific video, but generally like all the news and info reported over on SciTrek.

[@zybch]

@@decadentdave You clearly have no idea what drives a LOT of ppl on social media. Its ALL about attention and clicks no matter the veracity of whats being asserted.

[@decadentdave]

@@zybch no reason to believe this guy is just doing it for the attention. He claims he’s not even a Doctor Who fan. The dismal ratings and drumming this show is getting indicate that RTD has destroyed the profitability of the show and that an immediate change is necessary. The BBC is probably demanding that Bad Wolf replace RTD at this point because he’s gone too far left and alienated all of the fans who buy the merch and support the show. Di$ney will likely not renew their contract after series 2 and they are co-financiers.

[@Benlovescheese]

​@@decadentdaveif he's not a fan then there's more reason FOR him to make this BS up. He's just talking out his arse for views.

[@GazzaBoo]

It doesn't matter who they hire or fire, Dr WTF if finished for most of us. It's over.

[@somerandomyoutubeaccount5895]

So if they keep making more of the show will that mean you’ll stop talking about it? Or will you still complain about it.

[@GazzaBoo]

@@somerandomyoutubeaccount5895 I don’t recall complaining, it’s a statement. But feel free to get your delicate panties in a bunch.

[@bikechainmic]

After Peter Capaldi the show became too preachery and wokish. Then when the lead actor claims were not liking it cos were racists, you know DW is sunk. I didnt dislike Jody Whittacker but some of the scripts were shit. Davies destroyed Torchwood , dont let him destroy DW. It is interesting that the Classic DW still outguns the newer DW

[@trg8858]

Interesting take on Children of Earth but there you go

[@endrDigMake]

I'd be very surprised if we get a season '3'.

[@Salfordian]

Yep I read Disney were only signed up for 2 seasons but then again if they've got the show runner replaced this could have been the price for a 3rd season

[@calebfuller4713]

Yep. Even if we do, I'd say that will be the end of it. I mean, back in the 80s the last few seasons with Colin Baker and Sylvester McCoy were still getting around 5 million viewers, and they cancelled it. Now they are barely getting over 2 million! I suspect after Gatwa's run ends, the show will go on an "indefinite hiatus" that lasts a decade or two...

[@MichaelPate-michaelkpate]

I became a Doctor Who fan in 1980. I stopped being a Doctor Who fan in 2020 when the Timeless Child aired. I haven’t watched any of the Bad Wolf/RTD/Disney stuff. I hope there is no Season 3.

[@Whistor]

I watched Tom Baker on PBS as a kid and was excited when they rebooted the show. My watching ended the same time as yours, I am rubbernecking this train-wreck from a distance simply out of curiosity as I made peace with the end of a show I really enjoyed.

[@DorisDay-lw4xs]

I really liked Jodie but the timeless child was awful. She deserved better. Should have been just her and Graham having adventures.

[@Mirddes]

my mum was traumatized by dr who in the 1960s so growing up in the 90s dr who was entirely absent from our house. when new who started airing i gave it a hard pass thinking if was overhyped tripe. i watched all of modern who last year just in time to watch the 60th specials. i've stopped watching now that they've decided it's season1 for the third time. by classic who standards it's season 40, by new who's count it's season14; it aint fucking season1 lmfao.

[@ianseward2617]

Quote of the moment, "Too woke for Disney", WOW! Unfortunately, probably accurate.

[@eggheadnurse]

Biggest mistake is falsely claiming he's been fired and that Disney had input.

[@EdParnellReads]

You can make a story about a man with a cardboard box on his head. And make it good. But replacing good stories or writing with CGI, effects, messaging, poor acting or just low production values never, ever works. You want stories. if people want a series which focusses on the messages, fine. Write it into a story and address the issues via the narrative. What they have done is ignore the rules of story telling, logical, engaging story telling, for a lot of mumbo jumbo. It mostly feels, and has done since mid-Capa;di, like someone has said 'that'll do. The fans will watch anything because we're so good' They won't and they're not.

[@somerandomyoutubeaccount5895]

I can’t tell if you just wanna complain even if the show is good or not anymore. Or if you just haven’t watched the era?

[@EdParnellReads]

The effects are ok, the acting is ok. The shots... some of them are questionable but that is about taste. The issue, for me, is the writing. It is mostly lazy. And for the money and prestige of a show like that, you have to have good writing. You have nothing if the writing isn’t good. Now, there have been some nice set pieces but they do not sustain a whole episode.

[@somerandomyoutubeaccount5895]

@@EdParnellReads I guess I can understand where you’re coming from. I just think that there is a lot of people who have rose tinted glassses over what doctor who used to be. (Jodie’s era still sucked ass tho. But that’s mainly more due to Chris not understanding good character writing and doing engaging plots). The show has and will always push a leftist agenda.

[@EdParnellReads]

@@somerandomyoutubeaccount5895 Yeah, but never with the hamfisted clumsiness like this. And what burns me out is they claim these are 'the best writers'. That's just scary.

[@somerandomyoutubeaccount5895]

@@EdParnellReads have you not watched the Chris chibnall era? Also all doctor who writers since the revival have always been overly praised. It’s not shocking it’s a very common things most people in networks or papers say for money.

[@nigelwalker6103]

I'm not surprised. RTD used to have the magic touch, and I like many fans, hoped he could bring the series back to the heights of the Tennant or Smith eras. Clearly, that hasn't happened, and maybe we were expecting too much, but it could have been so much better.

[@user-js3rg9sj1k]

NEW DR WHO WILL BE MICKY MOUSE.😢😢

[@zybch]

No. Mickey is male and straight. Can't have that now can we.

[@Pat12379]

​@@zybchthe current doctor is also a male and the one before him was David tenant a straight man

[@lisa1162]

RTD failing upward? Yup, sounds legit.

[@Salfordian]

His career could be over after all this woke trash

[@dazzwsmith]

sucking his way up the greasy pole.

[@slumdogjay]

I’ve been a DW fan since I was a kid in the late 1970’s. Have most of the classic era DVD’s and the newer era up to. Capaldi’s final episode. The quality of the storytelling has gone down the toilet since then. I wish they would just rest the show for another Decade or so to give it time to recover from the state it is in. It’s became embarrassing.

[@thequietestengine]

I have said this over and over. When the 80s cancellation hit the dedicated writers and fans kept it alive so when the revival started it was welcomed with open arms. Now it just feels... it needs a rest. Not forever. Not full on cancelled. But for a show that made such a point of the Fourteenth Doctor running himself ragged and not stopping, that's.... the show now.

[@pouncepounce7417]

Writing a show with inclusivity as the selling point will always fail, most people are mature enough to emphatise with an character not there gender or race, so if your anglepoint is inclusivity then you fail.

[@dazzwsmith]

I think we'll get a season 3, but disney won't fund it, so the licence fee payer will have to pick up the tab. This will probably be aired on D+ and will give Gatwa his 3 seasons, as is the usual minimum, and then it will be shelved, possibly with another Tennant appearance and a few cameos from older characters. The show simply cannot continue on its current historically low and declining viewership and terrible writing. For now, I think it's run its course.

[@snakedaemongaming6590]

The damage is done Put the show on hiatus and let it rest, allow the bad taste to be washed out of peoples mouths

[@shelliingle571]

Hi jay, Are they going to replace Ncutie with a new actor after RTD'S stepping down as showrunner?

[@bobdobalina2931]

Let's hope so.

[@Andyssea]

It's alright. We're still awaiting the stargate announcement, you'll be correct eventually

[@JayRixom]

I’ve told you exactly why it’s been delayed ffs. I wish people would listen and not make stupid comments 🙄

[@JayRixom]

Tell you what ignorant comments like this piss me off. I’ve been right over and over again and had everything I’ve said backed up by other outlets, insiders on Gateworld etc .. on Star Trek been right over and over again and the only reason I did the videos and worked so dam hard was to get news out to fans… because I’m a fan. You are welcome btw.

[@leedymond2385]

He has always had an exec producer role and he has written 4 episodes for Season 3 already

[@mudcrab3420]

okay - credit for admitting you made some errors. A lot of people would simply double down in some twisted logic bomb that somehow makes the original error the fault of the viewers. #RIPDoctorWhoThoughtsAndPrayers

[@user-js3rg9sj1k]

RUINED IT.

[@retrospectre2658]

You know Jay, I dont fully agree with your views in the respect that I wasn't a fan of the showrunner and some of his choices. HOWEVER, you are very well spoken and you explain your view very honestly without the kind of negativity that's all over the place these days. I thought it was a good watch and you have some very good camera presence. I just wanted to say: even though we dont agree, we disagree in the right way. And that is such a rarity these days. So, you got yourself a subscriber and I look forward to hearing more of your views and seeing the channel grow. Cheers, mate!

[@millietanner56]

I love this. These kind of comments give me hope - not for Doctor who, but for people generally xx

[@avaorionmedia4145]

Good now that u have clarified the details... those pesky little details! ;-) Michael here, Dr Who Fan since 1975, RTD fan in the 2005 reign, also gay... feeling Betrayed by him selling out to the Minority of a Minority of a Minority WOKE Agenda and making himself The Pope Of Woke! Can't stand to look at him or listen to his endless bullshit now! MY SOLUTION: RTD Out (don't care how), the Specials and Seasons 1 & 2 are declared An Alternate Reality Dr Who Disney Spin-off, they return to Jodie W's Regeneration and she regenerates into the Real 14th Doctor and we carry on in OUR Reality... not RTD's Woke Delusion/Dictatorship! He made a comment in a recent interview something like: "No Executive would dare challenge him..." which proves he is on a massive ego trip and has zero respect for Fellow Fans or the vast Majority of viewers. Please keep the Real Facts coming... 🙂

[@cheapfinish6224]

ROFL, people have been demanding the 'alternate reality' card since the show came back in 2005. Maybe it's time to just pack it in? The classic show ended in 1989 and it never truly came back. I still enjoy Nu Who today but even I know it's day in the limelight is over and it's the sort of show that gets you mocked for still liking. it's also become fairly obvious some of the old fogies and 2000s fans are only fans of change to a point and have become just as intolerant as the kinds of people The Doctor opposes. i wish you well but you've clearly grown out of the show and it's left you behind. I know it's going to leave me behind as well one day, but I don't care. Life's too short and it's just a stupid kids show now.

[@petemusgrove7422]

Yes when he said that my head turned inside out, I glimpsed the unfathomable depth of the wormhole that is his ego and haven't been able to stop vomiting since. I pinned high hopes on Moffat's Boom episode but seeing this "Doctor" crying on a landmine.... I mean are you kidding me...Doctor Capaldi never shed a tear for dead Clara and BTW is it just me or is Ruby a carbon copy of Clara? The only Clara attributes she's missing are arrogance and high intelligence. I tried but I can't take it. This Doctor is childlike, slow to work shit out and generally unbearable to watch. I thought Whitaker was bad but this guy takes the cake. With Matt Smith you could see the wheels turning but this Doctor has no wheels. Ugh.

[@avaorionmedia4145]

@@cheapfinish6224 Seriously? The very fact that when Jodie regenerated into Tennant and he had different clothes (but no explanation ever offered) demands that it is an alternate reality... especially when in the same episode the Doctor regenerated into the Master for a while and he was wearing her clothes!

[@Benlovescheese]

Bad Wolf are OWNED by the production team of Rusell T Davies and they collaborate on everything. He won't be stepping back unless Bad Wolf step back.

[@Salfordian]

Trying to reason with the woke brigade was a bad idea

[@Metzwerg74]

blind idealism, never hears reason.... it´s like religious fanatism...

[@241sail6]

They've completely ruined Doctor Who. You can't change a show that much and think it will survive. I have been a fan since the 60s so I will continue to watch for now hoping that the show runners will eventually find their way and realize what is wrong with the show and fix it before it get cancelled for good.

[@leepshin]

If Disney have indeed "influenced" Davies step back then for once, Disney has done something right. Russell, despite being the brilliant writer that he is, has gone way too far with his wokery to the point of damaging a popular intellectual property. I didn't think things could get any worse after Chibnal and was glad to see Russell return, but the material he's been putting out is unrecognizable and just pure hostile wokery against the fanbase.

[@badwolf66]

According to RTD himself on his own column in Doctor Who magazine season 3 has already been written and he is currently writing for season 4, that was a few months ago.

[@shelliingle571]

I believe he's a nothing but a liar.

[@legion162]

I think they should just pull Dr Who and retire the show permanently. I really don't think that they can bring the show into the era of modern audiences. I really enjoyed it with the low budgets, dodgy special effects, and simple sets, and probably watched every episode, don't know if it's because I'm just getting older but I'm just not interested in watching it in the slightest. I really enjoyed Torchwood, think they'd possibly be better off reviving that, than carrying on with Dr Who.

[@benjamindavis4974]

That won't happen even with the figures it's getting now it's still the BBCs biggest show currently airing

[@JayRixom]

A risk.. the reality is this show is expensive and not getting the numbers the cost demands

[@JayRixom]

That may have been true for the first episode (except blue lights)

[@JayRixom]

Isn’t in top 10 right now for Disney+

[@____uncompetative]

@@JayRixomIf you investigate the etymology of the word "woke" it originates from Lead Belly's performance of the song _Scottsboro Boys_ (which was based on the true events where nine black teenagers and young men were falsely accused of raping two white women in Alabama in 1931) at there end of which he tells the audience "So I advise everybody, be a little careful when they go along through there-best stay woke, keep their eyes open." This led to "Stay woke" becoming just "Woke" (i.e. alert to racial prejudice and discrimination, such as that which the nine Scottboro Boys experienced. Even today, decades later, black people don't like this word being used to negatively criticise media. So, as with the n-word with a hard -er it is easy enough to avoid it. It isn't LGBTQIA+ or DEI or CRT. So what encompasses all that? IDENTITY POLITICS This came in with President Obama and has been divisive. Academics sometimes talk about Intersectionalism but that is too opaque a term and needs to be explained. It is actually fairly neutral term in sociology, but as that is largely activist in nature and driven by divisive IDENTITY POLITICS what they call intersectional feminism, etc. is feminism as it intersects race and then you have a hierarchy of victimhood and then you get the black trans lesbian feminists (who are men) claiming to be worse off than everyone else, and those who are sex workers and at more risk of violence due to their career choice being most marginalised. This is why the new PRIDE flag has a great big red umbrella in the centre representing sex workers. This should not be confused with POLITICAL CORRECTNESS in which some Karens would bully people into behaving in a sensitive way, and that led to "microaggressions" being a thing, then "safe spaces", all of which has been forgotten about with rampant anti-semitism and death threats to Jewish students at Ivy League colleges in the US by those supporting Hamas rapists. It seems that these self defined minorities want to be affirmed in their mental delusions otherwise we are being transphobic, racist, etc. and legislation is being brought in to the effect. For example you get a €10,000 fine if you use the birth name of someone who has "transitioned" in Germany. They very nearly passed a Hate Speech bill in Scotland. Biden has modified Title IX in the US so than males can use female toilets in Universities. And this is a cultural movement of queerness which is being pandered to by politicians such that it is bad for women and children, and is a threat to the foundations of Western Civilisation. It isn't elsewhere in the world as it isn't being tolerated there. Governments are actively encouraging it here and legislating to penalise those who act normally in the face of queerness such that normality is seen as a hate crime. Voting Labour or Liberal Democrat at the General Election will make matters worse. Voting Democrat in the United States will make matters worse. Voting for Trudeau in Canada will make matters worse. So you should use IDENTITY POLITICS instead. If the BBC wanted to make a drama about being a trans teen they could have done so, but it wouldn't have got as many eyeballs as their _Doctor Who_ show. If the BBC wanted to have a black gay Doctor then there is no reason he should behave like he is auditioning for musical theatre, lacking all gravitas all of the time. Him being black and gay isn't the problem. It is making the story inconsequential, removing all agency from him as a protagonist, and being very silly most of the time is not the genre people come to the show for. If you want to make that new recipe its own genre maybe try it in another show. _Torchwood_ dealt with more adult themes and homosexual relationships and yet it took itself seriously. It isn't that hard to do this stuff.

[@jevgeek7674]

I've been scrolling through this comment section for about half an hour, looking at all the current doctor who haters, people that loved the show pre-series 11. Those people have their opinions and I respect that. You like what you like, that's not for me to judge. However, Doctor Who, in my own opinion, isn't about all these entertainment industry politics (though obviously we don't want it to be just plain unwatchable because of them), the show is suppose to represent a sci-fi universe, parallel to ours, that shows the adventures of a mysterious yet lovable character, the Doctor. There are obviously problem areas in the writing for some episodes, but this ranges across all 61 years that the show has been around. Some stories from classic who haven't aged well. Some stories from new who (pre Disney) are poorly written. Some of these new stories on Disney+ aren't the best, but there is always something that can grab someone's attention and pull away from the poor writing decisions. Personally, I will always be excited for new Doctor Who content, but some people out there, might not, and that's okay. But sitting around just making comments on the internet about how the show sucks which distracts outsiders from even getting interested in the show is just cruel. I'm not saying voicing one's opinion is unimportant, I'm just saying that there are multiple perspectives on Doctor Who and these sorts of overbearing comments specifically pointing all the problems is probably taking away from parts of the show that are definitely fantastic. I feel bad for people joining the fandom now. It's like they're walking into a deathtrap of inner fandom cruelty that is honestly getting a little extreme at this point.

[@chrisleach3958]

I don’t know why they’re bothering as Doctor Who has been dead since the second season under Whittaker and Chibnall and if we’re very lucky Disney will be broken up for scrap as they haven’t had a original idea since I was a child and even then it was stolen from German fairytales

[@alanCalhoun2]

Jay is right Doctor Who needs some serious rework. I have watched Dr Who for 50 years. The Dots leave floating away on a boat while the Doctor shows a tear. Who wrote this trash? Ingredient list add Science Fiction and Plot. They have plenty of resources for a Doctor Who Reboot.

[@DorisDay-lw4xs]

Ill believe this when I hear it. This sort of thing never stays quiet for long. Id rather they just cancelled the show.

[@sadomensgaudaprime8142]

Wishful thinking? LBH I find it very hard to believe Disney would consider a third series of this train wreck. It should now be cancelled, end of.

[@Paul-vt6tx]

When i heard Russell was coming back to Doctor who i wondered if this was the right decision. Surely, for the show to carry on forward, a new Showrunner is needed. If he stays or goes beyond series 16 ( I won't call it 3), something needs to change. If i was Showrunner, i would have the doctor work for UNIT again with his Tardis disabled or lost to him.

[@jayanderson9375]

If it’s true that Disney isn’t happy with Who, that’s a good sign for Who!

[@calebfuller4713]

Well, the original series lasted 26 years and 7 Doctors... It looks like New Who will get 20 years or so (if as said, they have already filmed Gatwa's second season) and 6 Doctors, but I can see it being quietly cancelled after Gatwa's run, as the ratings are just too low now.

[@DeepThought42]

FYI Jay, Ncuti "shooty" (rhymes with spooky) Gatwa is just like an English speaker would pronounce it. Sony doesn't own Bad Wolf, they are an investor in it/partner with it though. Also of course Disney can't sack RTD, but neither can Bad Wolf really as it's RTD's production company set up by him and a few other colleagues like Julie Gardiner. The name of the company tells you it's RTDs baby (remember RTDs first era and the Bad Wolf dalek theme??). So it would really only be the BBC that would pressurise RTD to step down as show runner, influenced by Disney of course. Perhaps with input from some more sensible people at Bad Wolf like Julie Gardiner and Sony. You're right they wouldn't make it known if RTD was sacked as they didn't reveal that about Chibnall, especially as he is a friend of RTD who took over from him. People just noticed that he left straight after filming his last episode, but before it was finished and ready for broadcast. It was reported by those working in the industry, and "in the know" that Chibnall's contract (and his production team too I think) was intentionally not renewed or extended to allow more post production time on that last episode. The last episode was written like it could be an ending as at the time of filming Chibnall would have known his contract was about to end very soon afterwards and it wasn't being renewed, effectively a sacking, but had no idea if a new showrunner was ever going to be appointed. It was RTD who was asked to edit and fix up "The Power of the Doctor" so it was considered passable for broadcast. That's because the state it was left in by Chibnall and his team was apparently so bad the BBC wouldn't have broadcast it like that. It's funny as I heard yesterday some very fairly young DW fans say "The Power of the Doctor" was ruined by the edits, not knowing that the edits RTD did is what improved it enough for the BBC to broadcast it. I can't imagine how bad it was before the edits.

[@THEFORBIDDENMAN-lk7of]

THANKS FOR THE UPDATE

[@ajc4477]

This won't get a season 3. It's bombed in the ratings, a lot of the fans are gone and everyone realises the Rotten Tomatoes reviews critic are not honest.

[@Ownerislost]

Source?

[@patrickmusson4571]

I've watched Doctor Who since 1963. I loved Russell T. Davies's first era from 2005 and Stephen Moffatt's era with Matt Smith (my favorite) and Peter Capaldi. I loved Jodie's Series 13. Russell's 2nd Era is mainly written for the LGBTQIA+++ community and written with the subtlety of a battering ram and the nuance of a sledgehammer.

[@WallyPyneoil]

I recently wrote a fanfic based on an old TV sitcom. I moved the characters on in time slightly, but remained true to them and the show's universe. I think it would be fine as a continuation of the series, continuity, characterisations, etc, were meticulously observed. The cast passed away long ago and I only wrote it for pleasure, but it's made me think anew of the liberties taken with WHO by RTD and the like. It is not Doctor Who. I would venture that the revival never was. RTD was already in there with his English/England-hating rhetoric very early on. Now his full agenda is revealed. He hates a lot of people, though his bigotry is cloaked under the disguising terms 'woke' or 'SJW', which ARE bigotry in reality. Queer As Folk came years after genuine groundbreaking gay characters, like those in EastEnders in the mid to late 1980s, and its dialogue was Corrie-style. RTD is a copyist and a very spoilt and hostile person indeed.

[@cliffchapman6604]

Ah, a clarification exists. Yes you *did* balls that first video up from beginning to end. He's writing S3, he's mentioned plans for S4, and he's specifically said if Disney pulled out tomorrow they would still make cheaper, less effects-heavy episodes of Doctor Who. And if you don't know the show and the setup that well, why even bother with very obviously wrong clickba- aaaah. Oh well.

[@joannelively9934]

Doesn't matter IF it's true as he's just finished the wrap for season 2

[@JayRixom]

The point was never that.. the decision is being made now for season 3

[@StephenHennessy-Stone-ee5fy]

Let this be a lesson to Russell T Davies the more he pushed the message the more he trashed the fans of Doctor Who the more the fans reject this trash known as Doctor Who

[@DavidHHH99]

Literally none of this happened. These are extremist lies.

[@MexieMex]

RTD is a total hack, and always has been.I'm genuinely shocked some people thoght him returning would save the show

[@bioshock6935]

There just keeping david tennant to fall back on when they need to bring in the ratings and what they need to do is bring him back for good and make a mystery story of how and why with a big story ark and make a big budget film with him. When have we had a dr who film for cinema 1965/66 and they are still better what we get today. Its been far to long now also another good actor to have as dr how for a proper film would be benedict cumberbatch but these dr who producer's only like making tv low budget crap and why it's time for them to move on and sell the rights to a proper company that can bring it back like a marvel type blockbuster franche then start making dr who shows for streaming but is it to little to late maybe but your going to need to have a big marketing budget to bring back all the fans and new viewership just to get our trust back.

[@Ego_Sum_Nemo]

old doctor number 9 may be right about rtd..>...?

[@mrb3991]

Hi maybe that's why the had Steven Moffat write Boom, they might offer The Moff , the job off show runner ? 👍

[@decadentdave]

There won’t be a season 3. Di$ney will not renew their contract to co-finance and carry the program beyond season 2. Doctor Who and RTD are finished after season 2. BBC will have to seek another financier if the show will continue but it won’t be Di$ney.

[@Paul-vt6tx]

How do you know. ?

[@decadentdave]

@@Paul-vt6tx the shit ratings and reviews says everything

[@dazzwsmith]

I also think disney will drop out after S2, but i still think the BBC will fund a third season just to give gatwa his standard 3 seasons in the role. I can't see the show continuing in its present form after this.

[@decadentdave]

@@dazzwsmith the BBC is bankrupt that’s why they had to make a deal with the Devil… I mean Di$ney… to get funding. From everything I’ve heard the show would have ended with Jodie had they not gotten it picked up on Di$ney Plus.

[@eggheadnurse]

Still with the lies?

[@steveandjeanniefrith236]

Mark my words. Russell and Ncuti will only leave after three of four years to save face. Disney are backing them up with money and they've already filmed most of Season 2 as well speak. I refuse to call that season anything else.

[@MisterHughes]

I accidentally saw the last 10 minutes of this week's offering and it was pantomime quality acting. In spite of dumb things Gatwa has said in interviews, with vastly better material to work with and no more musical interludes I think he could actually be good. I disliked Colin Baker and Jodie a lot more.

[@Benlovescheese]

many articles have come out which prove you wrong and he’s already writing season 3, the bbc and bad wolf don’t seem to care and there’s nothing to suggest that disney give much of a damn either, clearly a liar.

[@Benlovescheese]

“I’m working on the fourth script now for season three. It’s not actually commissioned, That’s still up in the air. But that’s the same for every TV programme. I shouldn’t say we’re confident, because that’s asking for a fall, but we’re very confident, to be honest. And we’ll just keep going.”- Russell T Davies.

[@Benlovescheese]

“I can’t stop, that’s the problem! Ncuti’s off to do a play, The Importance of Being Earnest. And so were coming back after that. Amazingly, we might be shooting those scripts early next year. Those scripts have to be ready by about August, for prep. And it’s June. We’re not behind - but all my deadlines are just going to slap me in the face like mad. That’s my summer ruined, ha!”- RTD (continued)

[@andromedaone3640]

I like it, i think the interear calls back to the days of Peter Davidson. Some of the story plots are ridiculous but its ok.

[@dazzwsmith]

That might have been ok back in the 80's, but I think the audience now is a bit more sophisticated and generally demand a higher quality of writing and production. DW has failed in its writing over the last 5 years which reflects the fall off in viewership, albeit has maintained its overall production values. My opinion, but "ridiculous" story plots are more the area of Rick & Morty and South Park than a 60 year old IP that has traditionally been a family based sci-fi light entertainment show. It's now, arguably by its own admission, more of a fantasy young children's show better suited to be on Saturday morning CBeebies than on prime-time Saturday evening.

[@davidabulafia7145]

If there is a session 3

[@user-js3rg9sj1k]

IT IS CRAP.😢😢😢😢

[@shelliingle571]

Are they going to fire Ncutie after RTD is stepping down? I wonder BBC and Bad Wolf has break up with Disney after they had forced RTD. I could see they will sign up a contract with Netflix or WarnerBro to give a proper reboot.

[@williamhestilow4021]

New mistake, RTD is in charge at Bad Wolf. That would be like Tesla firing Elon Musk. The only person who can sack RTD IS RTD. Do you think hes going to fire himself?

[@RavenThom]

Everybody says Congress should be limited to 2 terms. So, Congress would basically need to fire themselves. Same thing here.

[@decadentdave]

If Di$ney drops it and they are the ones financing the show then RTD and Bad Wolf are cancelled and the BBC will have to find another financier which is going to be a very tough sell given the disastrous ratings on Disney Plus.

[@ShanghaiRooster]

RTD is not in charge at Bad Wolf. The company was formed by Julie Gardner and Jane Tranter (both former BBC executives). In 2021 Natasha Hale came on board when Sony became the majority shareholder. The BBC reappointed RTD as showrunner, and Bad Wolf was awarded the job of producing the show. It might be that RTD made that a condition of his returning (possibly to remove the BBC from direct oversight as they had had during his first tenure).

[@decadentdave]

⁠@@ShanghaiRoosterto quote Eccleston; “Sack Russell T Davies, sack Jane Tranter, sack Phil Collinson, sack Julie Gardner… and I’ll come back.” Yeah Chris knew the score at Bad Wolf back in 2005. He was absolutely right.

[@ShanghaiRooster]

@@decadentdave Bad Wolf the company was only formed in 2015. Gardner was executive producer on Doctor Who when it was revived in 2005. Tranter was at the time the Controller of Drama Commissioning. Doctor Who was one of the successful shows she gave the green light to. Evidently there is bad blood between Eccleston and RTD. The other two women might have come under his glare by association. I've no idea if there's any other reason for his demanding their removal.

[@Andy.Gledhill.Models.]

Hmm, I think you have to take these KZbin channels that say they have an inside source with a huge pinch of salt. I had an argument with another KZbin channel the other day that claimed the opposite of what you say. He claimed to have am inside source too. The abysmal ratings prove that BBC bringing back RTD and partnering with Disney has been an utter disaster. I said last year before the 3 specials that it would flop with RTD, Disney and Gatwa. I am being proved right. Now, I really hope that Disney now cut their losses and DO NOT FUND a 3rd season. It has been proved lately that everything Disney touches gets destroyed. They have ruined franchise after franchise. They need to be got rid. It needs to stay in house at the BBC. It needs to be produced by a new team that has nothing to do with the franchise. Personally, I would give it to Kudos. The production company that brought us such brilliant shows as Spooks and Hussle etc. They have proved time and time again that they can do drama well.

[@matheweacott4441]

I am a huge fan of Star Trek Doctor Who, Stargate SG one and Atlantis excluding of course universe cause I thought it was rubbish and the exes I think ultimately my love of Doctor Who comes from my dad. I grew up watching it with him. I have got into it even more now that he has sadly passed away, although writer has kind of ruined Doctor Who this season but basically that’s I think it’s more to do with Disney that has ruined Doctor Who than anything else owns absolutely everything nowadays. They ruined Doctor Who just as they ruined Star Wars because they can’t leave anything alone. I don’t consider because I do like them as well, but I also think the problem with Doctor Who is the fact that he has so political now and no offence to people that enjoyed it but I could not stand the whole by generation process he should’ve just regenerated as usual, but the damage is already been done to Doctor Who now. I think it needs to die unfortunately because I love it.

[@DairelFoleur]

I forget WHO was saying that the British writers of Dr. Who were writing for an American audience. What goes to show that the British writers don't know how to write for an American audience. Season 1 Dr. They is just trash.

[@tortysoft]

Nice catch.

[@raymondtonkin6755]

It was Disney DEI idelogy 100% propaganda 😮

[@MangoBlasters-go5cs]

Can I ask where you got this Info from? It seems unlikely considering Doctor Who is doing wonders as the biggest live action Tv Show on Disney Plus currently and although the Viewing figures are down for BBC, this is just a common trend for BBC as a whole and it still remains in their top 10 programmes in terms of viewship. I find it hard to believe esspecially if Disney is complaining about "wokeness" because in reality Doctor Who was always woke. I agree Star Beast definitely pushed it too much but after that it has been smooth sailing. I think because of the previous era of Doctor Who which was woke as well as had bad writing that people just came to the conclusion that woke automatically equals bad writing. But most of the episodes in the new run are good (out of the 7 released so far I'd say 1 was bad, 1 was mid, 2 were good and 3 were amazing) writing wise, esspecially when I look at negative reviews they all seem to be fixated on things that have nothing to do with the writing such as the companion being a 'Zoomer', it including a Drag Artist as a character and the Doctor being Black. I dont think its necessarily that Doctor Who is more woke than other things, its just people seem to have jumped on a hate train due to some mid writing in Star Beast which incorporates the Trans character poorly.

[@jevgeek7674]

This.

[@ajc4477]

Biggest live action show on Disney? This isn't true and if it were they would be quoting it left right and center.

[@MangoBlasters-go5cs]

@@ajc4477 So your basis on it not being true is you think that they would do exactly what you expect them to do? The proof is literally online just search it up, when this comment was made it was like 6th or 7th highest watched thing on Disney+ and everything more watched than it were animated shows and movies. I dont know where it stands now but its not dead by a long shot, recently RTD even talked about viewing figures and how although the live viewers are low, both BBC and Disney+ are happy with its current popularity and said that Season 3 had already been greenlit to start being produced.

[@KM-dk5gn]

The show has been in decline for years, I stopped watching the first episode of the second season of Jodi Whitaker's due to the anti-male rhetoric that was still present (season 1 of Jodi was very anti-male, anti-Christian and anti-conservative). I only held on that long after Capaldi because I was a life-long fan and I was hoping it would get better. The sexism against men started to seep in at the end of Capalid's run but it was a couple of lines here and there, with Jodi's run it became the focus of the show along with the bigotry against white men and Christians, etc.. Dr. Who fans were really angry when they did the Timeless Children and turned Doctor Who into an alien who started as a little black girl for the sake of wokeness at the end of Jodi's run. They had the best opportunity to recover by bringing back David Tennant and Russel T Davies if they didn't go in a woke direction, but they chose to instead triple down in the wokeness and turn Doctor Who into what appears to be a gay/trans parody of Doctor Who rather than the politically neutral, family-friendly show that it had always been up until the first couple of seasons with Capaldi. The show is pretty much dead now, it has historically low viewing numbers currently, much lower than the ratings that got it canceled in 1989 even.

[@CharlieCarstensen]

Doctor who was pretty cool once the Jody witker and now this guy Doctor who is screwed thanks to rtd

[@NotTomS]

Wow Jay... Quote of the decade! "What happens when a show is too woke for DISNEY!?!?!?" lol

[@barryrix4574]

I doubt RTD has been fired, but even if he has what will change?

[@jayanderson9375]

Interesting spin….

[@user-js3rg9sj1k]

Rushed terrible over acting..stupid idea,s rpi off of other shows.😢😢😢

[@cheapfinish6224]

So just about every Doctor Who story ever made then

[@rover66]

How the hell could there be a season 2 of this trash.

[@CybersecPat]

Wokeness needs to end! Don't fall for the institution's lies!

[@leedymond2385]

I would have thought that for the balls up of the forst video you would have actually took some time in those 2 days to actually find out what his name was, and learn how to pronounce it, it's rather disrespectful to Ncuti

[@leedymond2385]

So you ballsed up with you baseless story, then when got called out on it you are now trying to back track pmsl

[@Benlovescheese]

Who is this good source? Your arse?

[@tqbatman3482]

Somebody on KZbin who slouches on a sofa and, not only apologizes, but actively corrects himself? What is the world coming to? #NotMyInternet Nice work, Sir!

[@leedymond2385]

A lot of backpeddlong going on in this blog pmsl

[@tombombadill22]

Good news. RTD is hopeless. He has totally stuffed up.

[@dmittleman9757]

I was never a huge Dr. Who fan, saw a few episodes and some of my friends were into it, but my attention was always on other things. That being said, I feel bad for the fans who watched their favorite franchise get dragged through the mud.

[@johnvanorder3581]

I hope this is true... This is a total and complete disaster.

[@allenrhys844]

The lack of knowledge really showed in the first video. Maybe not the hornet's nest to dip your feet into. The old school approach of an inclusive and intelligent approach to sensitive stories isn't the modern definition of in your face nonsensical 'woke'.

[@JayRixom]

My lack of knowledge comes from not liking the series anymore. But if you’d rather not know the info just because I’m not a fan that’s your decision

[@DorisDay-lw4xs]

@@JayRixomThese fans are a bit “special “. I guess you’re learning that.

[@firstlast5350]

73 yards and Dot and Bubble were pretty good. He can write good stuff.

[@gordiebrooks]

Disney needs to pull their money and end this travesty !!

[@ShanghaiRooster]

Depends on the contractual obligations. Disney has lost a ton of money on terrible movies last year, and won't want another flop with Doctor Who on their hands. I'd imagine they are tied into putting up the dollars for post-production work on Season 2 (or 15), but if the viewing figures for this season keep dropping from the already low levels they started from, maybe they will pull it. It'd be a strange contract which didn't allow some escape clause (for both parties).

[@SpideyVids]

I'd be astonished if this iteration of Doctor WTF gets a season 3 - the viewing figures are only going to get worse as this woke abomination goes on.

[@ernestoglesby5342]

Dr WTF

[@JohnnyD69FG]

"She" is a dude, dude.

[@TheTimeProphet]

You mean HE was brilliant, which I very much doubt. Doctor Who ended in 1989. What you are watching is parody agenda Who.

[@RavenThom]

Scuti is signed on for 3 seasons (so far) RTD for 5. Doctor Who is alive and well, thank you very much

[@decadentdave]

Contracts are always pay or play. That means if the show gets cancelled or they decide to recast he still gets paid for the full season even if he isn’t in them.

[@christopherhowarth9801]

Disney seems to be rethinking its strategy of pissing money up the wall on shows that nobody is watching. Doctor Who has not been a success for them so if there's any chance of further Disney funding there needs to be changes.

[@sadomensgaudaprime8142]

Lowest overnights ever ,, Zero Disney+ views whatsoever,, Piss poor iPlayer numbers,, Your definition of 'alive and well' is,, Optimistic to say the least.

[@DorisDay-lw4xs]

He won’t make it to 3 seasons. If they hadn’t already started season 2 he would’ve been out the door and off to his new job at TK Maxx

[@matrixlord212]

Season 3 Scripts have been completely done by Russel T Davis and Moffat & his other writers. They will film in Feb 2024. Russel T Davis is writing Season 4 and that is a fact. Russel is not fired. Disney Plus already paid for the Sea Devils Spin off by Russel T Davis. He is not going anywhere. He will remain as show runner as he said till Season 4 at least.

[@JayRixom]

I’m Sorry but that doesn’t mean they will be used. Or at least not untouched He may not have a choice

[@Docktavion]

Yip, using the various seasons to push the spin offs too.

[@matrixlord212]

@@JayRixom No, I meant you in your video made it that season 3 wasn’t written and they are getting new writers. They are not. Just clarifying.

[@TheJASDrummer]

Scripts are one thing. Actually paying millions for produ tion only to have a few watch is not something Disney will do. In fact, they are taking the are to projects that were already in production. This ends at season 2

[@JayRixom]

@matrixlord212 I was making the point nothing about season 3 is set.

[@darthanakinII]

This guy is full of it

[@DorisDay-lw4xs]

Aw. I spy with my little eye something beginning with T …

[@user-xi5mx3ov2i]

RTD sucks

[@decadentdave]

Well yes he’s gay so we know what he sucks

[@deadman746]

Thank you so much! Events are now confirming a prediction I made at least as far ago as January. I am sufficiently chuffed to type it again. Note that I am a cognitive linguist with a special interest in analyzing political language and a former Disney and Doctor Who semi-insider, albeit many years ago, but I do have some understanding of the cultures. I subjected "The Star Beast" to a detailed cognitive linguistic analysis. Yes I'm a geek, but I know my stuff. First, RTD's writing only seems bad if you expect a good story. If you take into consideration his agenda, it's brilliant, beyond the dreams of Orwell. Second, Disney did not object because it is too woke. It is in fact deeply anti-woke, being racist, sexist, and even transphobic, but RTD is such a good writer he hid that so well everyone was fooled. That included me for about two weeks, which is why I bothered to do the analysis. Disney objected because they had a bad experience with "Hannah Montana." At first, the deal was just to distribute. Like everyone, they expected RTD to bring back the magic of the reboot, but they did not realize that its success was largely due to pushback from Eccleston. Disney's live action success traditionally was based on taking raunchy people such as Bette Midler and Robin Williams and applying essentially Freudian direction to channel the raunch into family performances. They expected this to happen. They were dismayed when they heard that one of the major subplots was for the 30-something Gatwa to try to _plook_ the teenage Gibson's boyfriend. But they were positively appalled at "The Star Beast." What they saw was Donna's daughter, who should have been about 13 by the chronology, called 15, played by an adult dolled up to look even older, called _gorgeous_ by Donna who had previously used that term only in a sexual context. And yes it is sexist; it's Women's/Gender Studies 101 that if you do that to girls they tend to grow up thinking their sexual availability is their only attribute. RTD also had Finney pose for photo shoots holding a shopping bag with a smiley face with hearts for eyes, perhaps because actual Kubrick Lolita glasses would lack subtlety. It was too late to do anything about the specials, but they test-screened "Church on Ruby Road" and saw a flamboyantly sexualized 30-something stalking a teenager and picking her up with am admittedly clever alcohol-related line in a bar, for her to jump into his arms shortly thereafter, to be shown in a country where the drinking age is 21. So they _persuaded_ RTD to shoot the snowman scene to establish The Doctor as a good guy on the side of the law. Without that, the stuff about the diamonds makes absolutely no sense. Disney nixed the _plooking,_ but that rendered a lot of the Gibson video unusable, which caused her character to be cut way back. Whatever you think about the new companion otherwise, she does seem more age-appropriate. Take that as a hypothesis. I am a scientist and make predictions in advance of evidence to disconfirm or fail to disconfirm. I could provide more suggestive evidence, but I'll have to wait until I get to a real keyboard because my thumb is wearing out on these chiclet buttons.

[@neilgodwin6531]

I stopped taking your opinion seriously when you called Disney "sexist". Have you seen a single Marvel production since "Endgame"? Especially She-Hulk? 😱 Cheese Larson and the Marvels? Female Thor, Iron Girl and Hawkeye?

[@deadman746]

@@neilgodwin6531 I didn't call Disney sexist. I called RTD's message sexist. And it is, as I explained. Repeatedly calling a teenage girl "gorgeous" is sexist. That she happens to be trans doesn't change this, but it does provide a red herring diverting attention away from the sexism. The scene with Sylvia basically slugging The Doctor is sexist, going against a quarter century of work about glorifying domestic violence. And since I'm at a keyboard now, I'll point out that the portrayal of Newton as Indian is racist, or somethingist anyway (there are no human races except in the imagination of racists), because this particularly Indian Newton is portrayed as being too stupid to know Latin. According to RTD's own lights, mere association is implication, as with Davros in a wheelchair. So RTD presumptively _intends_ to portray Indians as stupid. Similarly, he presumably _intends_ that having the Toymaker affect a bad German accent to telegraph his racism is strongly nationalist, similar to The Evil Hun stereotype in World War I. Disney is pushing back on the sexism, transphobia, racism, homophobia, etc. That is, they are against it. This is my hypothesis. I'm publishing it here because of good faith. I want it out because I am willing to stick my neck out and be honest so that when more things happen, independent observers can see whether my hypotheses be consistent or inconsistent with the evidence. I am, however, gratified that you do not take my _opinion,_ as you put it, seriously. I am *only* interested in reaching people who (1) read, (2) act in good faith, and (3) understand the difference between an opinion and a hypothesis. You're 0 out of 3, so *plonk.*

[@bryter00]

Yeah, cos a guy in his bedroom has ‘information’ that media journalists, with all their contacts and connections, do not have. 😂😂😂 What a fantasist.

[@MrChiddler]

He doesn't work for Disney. Hence your stupid claim is impossible.

[@happyface1724]

Dw has been on in my family since before i was born so iv watched it since 69 and i stopped after the piano villain the stories are absolute tosh and when the actors started spouting absolute ridiculous tosh nope done here!