Doctor Who: The Church On Ruby Road Review (Ups & Downs)

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EDIT: Season One trailer breakdown is live! kzbin.info/www/bejne/moiYdmttYtaAnrM Easter eggs breakdown is live! kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoiZd4CpatJ_nJY Merry Christmas everyone! More videos breaking down The Church On Ruby Road + the Season One trailer will drop in the coming days, so stay tuned! An easter eggs video is also planned, but will be slightly delayed due to the Christmas break. Now, keep an eye out for any goblins, and enjoy the rest of 2023! 👊
@DiamondEverton
@DiamondEverton Жыл бұрын
Go enjoy your 2024
@time_for_toast4922
@time_for_toast4922 Жыл бұрын
No, the issue everyone had with the Timeless Child plot was that it made the Doctor become this immortal, everlasting being, and it completely changed his entire history for no good reason. Please follow along next time.
@BritishBeachcomber
@BritishBeachcomber Жыл бұрын
​@@time_for_toast4922The whole point about The Doctor is that he can change into anything during regeneration. *You are not a true Whovian. QED.*
@waynegray2284
@waynegray2284 Жыл бұрын
Maybe the master
@waynegray2284
@waynegray2284 Жыл бұрын
Someone said to me maybe she is the future Ruby sunday
@alambert2211
@alambert2211 Жыл бұрын
Did anyone else notice how Ms. Flood completely changed over the course of the episode. She started aggressive toward Abdul and clearly had no concept of what the Tardis is because she droppedf her bags in disbelief. Fast Forward to the end of the episode, shes not only kind to Abdul but she knows all about the Tardis, Ruby, and the Doctor. I think somewhere inbetween Ms. Flood became someone/something else
@alexmartinelli6231
@alexmartinelli6231 Жыл бұрын
I think we will see her again - and the shift in attitude is because the doctor picked her up one of those times and they had a little adventure of her own.
@chrisblake4198
@chrisblake4198 Жыл бұрын
I think similar to the altered timeline change for Ruby's mom/gran, something altered her past between those moments. Or she got a flood of memory back (note one of her first lines was about seeing a police box 50 years ago, though that could have been one of the last real ones as the timing is correct)
@shinjisan2015
@shinjisan2015 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisblake4198 perhaps a fog watch was involved and seeing the Tardis again made her curious about it... like Dr YANA
@AndreiTupolev
@AndreiTupolev Жыл бұрын
Yeah, she was all "get outta ma pub" at the start
@jonunya1163
@jonunya1163 Жыл бұрын
Or she knew what a TARDIS is, but didn't recognize it until she saw it take off
@Waste_money
@Waste_money Жыл бұрын
I picture the goblin picking up the camera with curiosity, accidentally pressing the button and getting its eyes flash by the light and dropping it in blindness. I love these ups and downs vids ❤❤
@EricaGamet
@EricaGamet Жыл бұрын
That's totally what I thought had happened.
@kathyastrom1315
@kathyastrom1315 Жыл бұрын
Me, too! That’s why it was kicked under the bed with the photo still dangling from it.
@stephen-dfc
@stephen-dfc Жыл бұрын
Exactly this. Very harsh down for me.
@Waste_money
@Waste_money Жыл бұрын
@@stephen-dfc exactly my thoughts
@Waste_money
@Waste_money Жыл бұрын
I actually just did this to myself on snap a second ago 😂
@3dflux
@3dflux Жыл бұрын
The Doctor stopped and deliberated before not going after Ruby's mother. To my mind he decided not to after hearing Carla speak about how Ruby is "all hers" and how much she changed her life. Also, the hurt Ruby felt and how it could be worse if the mother who abandoned her is less than amazing. The Doctor made a moral choice based on his observations.
@christopherleodaniels7203
@christopherleodaniels7203 Жыл бұрын
That’s how I saw it. He wanted to keep the foster family together. Speaking with the birth mother, back at that moment, and possibly changing her path or her mind, could’ve erased Ruby’s already happy family life in the future. The choice was a mother who loved her vs a mother who (for whatever reason) didn’t want her.
@Andreamom001
@Andreamom001 Жыл бұрын
I think he didn’t go after her because the Ruby he knows didn’t know who her mom was, so if he messed with the time line by finding out who her mom is, he might fail to restore the timeline. So, I saw it as a bittersweet moment where he realizes Ruby deeply wants to know her mom and he has the opportunity to find out for her, but the risk is too great, and he has to let the chance go. (But it’s also possible he already knows. It’s possible the person is significant to him.)
@CoreZeroPH
@CoreZeroPH Жыл бұрын
More or less. Personally, I saw it as the Doctor coming to realize that even though he wanted to help his new friend Ruby know who her real parents are, he stopped himself knowing Ruby (and her current family) is already perfect as it is, just like himself.
@3dflux
@3dflux Жыл бұрын
@@Andreamom001 oooh, I didn't consider that he already knows the mom
@Unbreakable1986
@Unbreakable1986 Жыл бұрын
Seems pretty clear to me that her mother is Rose Tyler, age 18-19
@celinathommesen-kahler2142
@celinathommesen-kahler2142 Жыл бұрын
I think the defining moment was when Carla says "why would I want a daughter, when I'm happy as I am?" and the Doctor starts tearing up. The Timeless Child was in their first form, a _little girl._ It's easy to guess what he was thinking about. That's why he doesn't chase after Ruby's mother. Because he gets that sometimes it's better not to know who they are🥹
@fantasticbeck3938
@fantasticbeck3938 Жыл бұрын
It kind of makes sense that Ruby isn’t quite as shocked by the TARDIS as other companions because this character was born in 2004. She can’t even remember a time without weird alien things happening in London at Christmas!
@gabrielvega1713
@gabrielvega1713 Жыл бұрын
I didnt even think of that. Rose was shocked because who knew about Aliens in 2004 Who? Ruby grew up watching invasions happen every other week.
@Fredkitchens
@Fredkitchens Жыл бұрын
most people would be shocked by goblins in a flying ship stealing babies. she cant act . accept the truth
@lanrelogan2468
@lanrelogan2468 Жыл бұрын
But doctor who started in the 60s?
@kbg12ila
@kbg12ila Жыл бұрын
Well she was shocked though. Her reaction at the end "who are you?" Was full of shock and curiosity and excitement.
@acrosvite
@acrosvite Жыл бұрын
I havent seen the old series but 10 says something in the lines of now humanity as a whole know about aliens, as if it was a revelation and a change@@lanrelogan2468
@a_world_made_of_cardboard
@a_world_made_of_cardboard Жыл бұрын
Personally, I think the Doctor's little conversation with the police officer was a defining moment for this new version of the Doctor. He cared. He knew. He explained. It was a brilliant scene.
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion Жыл бұрын
For me the magic was in his “she said yes” …. Up. Of course she did, handsome, atta boy, don’t question it!
@LostRoswellian
@LostRoswellian Жыл бұрын
Me too! Loved the line about how he bought the ring before the sales so that shows he really cares. I got lots of compassion vibes from this Dr.
@sputukgmail
@sputukgmail Жыл бұрын
I also thought he told the officer that so the officer would be thinking about that, instead of the blue box suddenly vanishing in front of his eyes…a bit of psychological manipulation by the Dr…
@EwanDavidson-xs5fg
@EwanDavidson-xs5fg Жыл бұрын
The Scene with the Police Officer was a lovely defining moment following the joyous dancing in the club, I feel those were this is the Doctor moments..
@EwanDavidson-xs5fg
@EwanDavidson-xs5fg Жыл бұрын
So we got Labyrith which has a Goblin King with a funny song, sung to a stolen Baby, clock visual was important in both episode and film. Crawling through shaft a very Die Hard moment, shame he changed out of the vest, very Christmasy though. The Goblins singing and one female Goblin, shades of Gremlins and Gremlins 2, they did sabotage things and kill people stairlift and Davina trapped in a chair at bottom of stairs killed by a star, The ship reminded me of Time Bandits, which the ship crashes into the kids house if I remember right. The Polaroid picture changing, Back To The Future, Sounded like Cherry was watching Who wants to be a Millionaire but wasn't that loud. The Goblin King and his tongue, Jabba the Hutt, his death was very Hot Fuzz, but I thought of the spire that went through the chest of Patrick Troughton in the Omen.. So the Doctor still Dances. Ruby mentions having from Manchester to London and how expensive it is, if I remember correctly Mrs Flood agrees, if I"m correct could that mean she is original companion Dodo Chaplet,who battled the Celestial Toymaker and featured in a musical episode? Nice to see River Song is still around borrowing the Doctor's Tardis, How else do you explain being able to see the whole Tardis when the Doctor explains he lives in that Blue Box and you can see it clearly, yet when the Doctor steps into it, it is parked around the corner of the building now almost out of sight based on the angle you see the snowman head. (The Snowmans hat disappeared)
@sauvixcustoms
@sauvixcustoms Жыл бұрын
Not relevant to the plot of the episode but I love that in the scene where the Doctor notices the pictures of the fostered kids are gone, there is a menu for Minto Pizza. A reference to Parting of the Ways when Mickey asks if Jackie had tried the pizza place on Minto Road. Continuity at its finest
@brihend
@brihend Жыл бұрын
I keep wondering if the photos of the children were of the family of the cast and crew.
@Fredkitchens
@Fredkitchens Жыл бұрын
baby eating and pizzagate. OK. In an episode about baby eating of course they would reference pizza.
@GoldenJayTime
@GoldenJayTime Жыл бұрын
the "why are you not chasing her, shes right there" question went down completely differently in my house - when he walked away, my mum curtly said "correct. good decision". its not his place to pry. there's a reason they left the child, and he doesnt know ruby well enough to justify overturning her entire life in a blink without her permission. its him stepping back - not being the time lord victorious. not winning.
@SouthPaw1805
@SouthPaw1805 Жыл бұрын
15:40 Bonus Up: Unleashed reveals that Ncuti and Millie sang their part live on set, rather than in a recording studio and miming to it. Kudos to the pair of them for that!
@andrewgillon2763
@andrewgillon2763 Жыл бұрын
Well said. My wife and I were impressed with that.
@HollywoodandWine101
@HollywoodandWine101 Жыл бұрын
For me the defining moment for 15, was him crying over the 33 kids who never got the loving home. Realizing that 33 kids had his life. Not having the loving supportive home and mourning the fact in a way those kids died because ruby was taken.
@Limes_not_Lemons
@Limes_not_Lemons Жыл бұрын
YES 😢 This was definitely the biggest moment for me. The club and snowman scenes sold me on his charisma and wit, the ladder scene sold me on the chemistry between the characters, but the fridge scene with the missing photos, his pure sadness in his eyes and line delivery, THAT is The Doctor. So many lives ruined in an instant, the sorrow he displays is immaculate
@penbucket
@penbucket Жыл бұрын
Completely agree! I can't imagine any other Doctor having that reaction to that moment. I felt his entire emotional personality on display was so vastly new and exciting. I agree with Ellie about the sonic though. I'll try to get over that asap.
@mrjapers2627
@mrjapers2627 Жыл бұрын
Those Damn goblins got what was coming to them 😎
@idjles
@idjles 9 ай бұрын
Did he have 33 companions?
@HollywoodandWine101
@HollywoodandWine101 9 ай бұрын
@@idjles according to Wikipedia there have roughly 51
@paulwagner688
@paulwagner688 Жыл бұрын
I don't think Mavity is a gag. There's something horribly wrong and no one knows it. Yet.
@Mark-nh2hs
@Mark-nh2hs Жыл бұрын
The Black Mouse of the Void 😂
@lunalee1320
@lunalee1320 Жыл бұрын
​@@AhStuttgartno, the word gravity no longer exist cuz Donna & Doctor changed the timeline with their joke
@ugolomb
@ugolomb Жыл бұрын
@@lunalee1320 Yes, and that kind of annoyed me from the start. Newton did not invent the word "gravity", he discovered a theory of how gravity works. The word predates Newton (even in the strictly physical sense, it was used at least 20 years before Newton was born, according to the OED); and the notion that a single mishearing would cause Newton to replace this pre-existing term with a hitherto-non-existent word is, for me, too ridiculous even for Doctor Who
@phillipgaige6156
@phillipgaige6156 Жыл бұрын
Did he just swipe Nine’s leather jacket and a kilt and pull it off? Yes. Yes he did. And it was FANTASTIC!!
@chrisblake4198
@chrisblake4198 Жыл бұрын
I know you're probably being tongue in cheek, but in case you're not, his black biker jacket was completely different than Nine's leather coat. Nine's coat was mid length and no belt or epaulets.
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion Жыл бұрын
@@chrisblake4198as in, inspired by a previous Doctor’s choice, but then made it his own
@gedbyrne8482
@gedbyrne8482 Жыл бұрын
I feel he channeled 9 a lot. Especially the “what you do that for” scene on the roof. Were the referencing The Empty Child when Rose was hanging from a balloon?
@andurilmat
@andurilmat Жыл бұрын
there is a big difference between the u-boat commanders jacket worn by 9 and a bikers jacket
@idjles
@idjles 9 ай бұрын
@@gedbyrne8482the entire episode was a retelling of "Rose".
@jereico7587
@jereico7587 Жыл бұрын
I think the mysterious mom is Ruby herself. Early in the episode there is a shot showing her climbing the stairs and you can see she is wearing the same shoes this mom was wearing. Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey reasons I'm sure. Not saying she is her own mom, just that Ruby was left on the doorstep by Ruby. Bootstrap Paradox.
@julianaylor4351
@julianaylor4351 Жыл бұрын
Like Dave Lister in Red Dwarf being his own father.
@Rhaenarys
@Rhaenarys Жыл бұрын
I thought similar. Something about the way she walked, and carried herself...looked a lot like how Ruby walked in the entire episode. Weird thing to pick up on, but yea lol. I didnt notice the shoes, though.
@hellnight1206
@hellnight1206 Жыл бұрын
Could even be why Doc gave her a odd look because he sensed time energy on her.
@WyrdWaysRockShow
@WyrdWaysRockShow Жыл бұрын
That was my first instinct, too. But the look down the camera at the end had me thinking, "The Master?"
@Rhaenarys
@Rhaenarys Жыл бұрын
@@WyrdWaysRockShow same
@kieranleehamilton
@kieranleehamilton Жыл бұрын
The ending, “I’m the Doctor” for me was his defining moment. Anyone who doubted, you were convinced then!
@rabbitfishtv
@rabbitfishtv Жыл бұрын
The way Ruby’s disappearance changed people’s lives was, I think, a nod to the classic Christmas movie, “It’s a Wonderful Life,” where an angel shows a suicidal Jimmy Stewart what the world would have been like if he hadn’t existed.
@WiccanRai
@WiccanRai Жыл бұрын
I feel like the Doctor had a moment of starting to go after the mother, but I think he realised how much potential there was for changing Ruby's life at this early stage. He saw how Carla and Cherry were changed without Ruby in their lives and clearly they in turn enriched Ruby's life too. They're a family unit. What could have happened had he caught up with this mysterious woman? She must have had a reason for giving her daughter up, that was more than 'can't cope' or just doesn't want a baby, and maybe the Doctor sensed that. Would this woman changing her mind have been batter for Ruby in the long run - or would this woman even do so? There are so many possible factors to consider. I think the Doctor will now do what he can to find Ruby's mother and see how it all plays out.
@debtracton3043
@debtracton3043 Жыл бұрын
I wish they had included The Doctor speaking Baby like they did with Matt Smith's Doctor.
@WildeMermaid
@WildeMermaid Жыл бұрын
Me too. They could easily have had her comment about her name or something & it be natural
@adp806
@adp806 Жыл бұрын
I though to fthat immediately when he spoke to Lulubelle as well. Just a little throwaway line with the doctor reacting to something the baby "said" wodl have been great.
@garychillingworth
@garychillingworth Жыл бұрын
I think Ncuti is great. He has real Mavitas.
@subbtopp
@subbtopp Жыл бұрын
ha. yes
@shubhounofficial5125
@shubhounofficial5125 Жыл бұрын
Hah... Noice.. 😄
@terrygonda4346
@terrygonda4346 Жыл бұрын
Well done
@technicolour7619
@technicolour7619 Жыл бұрын
I honestly think the defining moment for his Doctor was right at the beginning and again, obviously, later in the episode. As he's comin out of the TARDIS, he has tear streaks on his cheeks. It just brought me back to the previous special where he embraces (himself?) and gives that little kiss. I feel that will be our doctor this go round; someone who is so deeply empathetic that he will turn back time and pull ships out of the sky no matter what consequences are (surely) in store.
@glompf1734
@glompf1734 Жыл бұрын
One interesting thing in the new RTD era is: hopping back in time changes the timeline and actually makes differences. First: "mavity" instead of gravity, which seems to stay, second: showing how much the life of Ruby Sunday affected her mother and grandmother. Third: how the destruction of the goblin ship in the past affected the character of Mrs. Flood, who's now way more friendlier. Though I'd also bet, Ruby and the doctor meet a younger Mrs. Flood later in the series..
@Denflexi
@Denflexi Жыл бұрын
I loved that whole scene where The Doctor and Ruby were tied up, and he's getting excited about the language of rope and discovering the "brand new science" of luck and circumstance. Older Doctor Who episodes tried to tie fantastical elements into existing science, like explaining how the werewolf is a parasitic space organism or the Dickens "ghosts" were gas-based lifeforms. But here, it's the frontier of discovery, The Doctor hypothesising and theorising how these different rules play out. Everything is a science, even magic. And I love that Doctor Who is embracing this.
@vrhetinst
@vrhetinst Жыл бұрын
Or maybe it’s the reverse? Everything is magic-even science! 🙃 Merry Christmas, everyone.
@GoliathWarfare
@GoliathWarfare Жыл бұрын
"It's not magic, it's language. It's another form of physics."
@SnowLily06
@SnowLily06 Жыл бұрын
Russell's first era was very science. Steven Moffat's was very fairy tales. This new era seems to be the best of both
@drmattso2369
@drmattso2369 Жыл бұрын
I will argue a defining moment might be where the Doctor was in the kitchen with Carla, and he is clearly crying. He asks why are you crying? and she asks why are you? He stands there deepliy emotional with his head still reeling with all of the sudden developments. Its such an emotionally impacful scene, it broke my heart seeing what Carla and Cherry became without Ruby and it did the doctor as well.
@LordLOC
@LordLOC Жыл бұрын
I've seen so many comments (and now a couple videos) saying that scene and the Doctor crying ruins the Doctor completely and the show is now just woke trash pushing agendas etc.
@drmattso2369
@drmattso2369 Жыл бұрын
@@LordLOC I find it amusing that people take showing compassion as "woke".
@LordLOC
@LordLOC Жыл бұрын
@@drmattso2369 It's not even compassion (though in this case it is obviously) but we're talking about a 2,000 some odd year-old alien who can see timelines and travel through time and has "magic" science but oh no, he's crying because of a family being obliterated and losing everything wonderful and beautiful (not to mention fostering 33 kids) but OH NO ITS WOKE CUZ TEARS. I hate it so much.
@DavidHHH99
@DavidHHH99 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was my favorite scene in the episode and had me in tears, too.
@Aurora_Lightbringer
@Aurora_Lightbringer Жыл бұрын
​​​​@@LordLOC If you've been stabbed but get better, you are suddenly not allowed to feel any pain that's lesser such as if you get a papercut or stub your toe. Your body now refuses to acknowledge any pain that's not a knife 4 inches into your gut. Great moral from the "go woke get broke" crowd lmao
@applepye1353
@applepye1353 Жыл бұрын
I took the goblin photo as he found the camera, not knowing how it worked, and took a pic of itself and dropped the camera in surprise. The only thing that was missing was The Doctor being able to talk to babies.
@WyrdWaysRockShow
@WyrdWaysRockShow Жыл бұрын
Maybe that was something only Eleven could do? He could well have been better with languages than Fifteen is.
@applepye1353
@applepye1353 Жыл бұрын
@@WyrdWaysRockShow It was a Moffat thing. 12 understood babies. Chibnall never addressed the talent and I guess RTD isn't going to bring it back either. It's a pity because it made for some lovely stories.
@Croftice1
@Croftice1 Жыл бұрын
@@WyrdWaysRockShow 12th did as well, he translated from baby when Loftys little daughter was crying in the episode about Ashilder, the same episode he realised, why he took that face (of Caecelius from Pompeii).
@KevinHayman
@KevinHayman Жыл бұрын
Defining Doctor moment? He pulled a boat out of the sky. This is a man of action.
@shawnholbrook7278
@shawnholbrook7278 Жыл бұрын
I am happy that the doctor is healing and still growing, healing doesn't mean you stop feeling or thinking. This doctor can laugh and cry. That is his defining trait so far. Love it.
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion Жыл бұрын
Strength isn’t never crying, but not losing yourself to grief. 10/10
@Rasyr
@Rasyr Жыл бұрын
Regarding Mrs Flood In her first scene, she has no idea that the blue box is a Tardis, then she sees it disappear, and you can see her surprise at it doing so. And then at the end when she is leaning forward, she might notbe breaking the 4th wall, but still talking to the man from a moment before since she IS looking in the direction that he headed..... I have only recently found the WhoCulture Ups and Downs videos, so it makes me want to go back and check a few things.... For example, in Hell Bent, I am wondering if anybody caught that the Doctor's son was quite possibly the Lord President of Gallifrey at the time that he and Susan ran away. When in the cloisters, the Doctor tells Clara abouta story about somebody stole the moon and run away with the President's wife, and when Clara repeats it back to him, and he corrects her that it was the President's daughter..... (quite possibly his grand-daughter). I have also seen comments about how Jo Martin's Tardis was also a Police Box, and how could that be is it got stuck like that during the time of the first Doctor..... The answer is easy, the Tardis got stuck like that much earlier than previously thought. Then when Division force the Doctor into regeneration back to a child (to grow up into the first Doctor), they put her Tardis into the repair yard, and forced it back into its natural state, and thought that they had repaired the Chameleon Circuit, but the fix only stuck a short while (several trips until they lands in Foreman's Junk Yard, and disguised itself as a Police Box, at which time it shorted out again (or the Tardis herself shorted it once she took the shape of a Police Box out because she likes that form for some reason - Even when the 6th Doctor was able to fix it, he never got it to work correctly and as soon as it became a Police Box again it stopped working again.....) Just a few thoughts......
@edm9029
@edm9029 Жыл бұрын
Did anyone else get major "It's A Wonderful Life" vibes from this episode? It is my favorite Christmas movie, and one of my all time favorites, and i loved how this episode explored the same themes (briefly) of the impact one life can have on those around them...
@lind774
@lind774 Жыл бұрын
Yes! Especially when he grabbed the top of the post on the stairs landing when returning to "now".
@politereminder6284
@politereminder6284 Жыл бұрын
It reminded me of many things, including Gremlins, Labyrinth, Star Wars and Its a wonderful life. It was wonderful!
@sputukgmail
@sputukgmail Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the overall “what if someone hadn’t existed” story was there - although it wasn’t the person learning the lesson, is was the doctor as the only one who experienced the shift…was that a lesson about himself, about a crisis of confidence he’d had recently wondering if he were good or not? He’s still healing perhaps - also hinted out by the reflective moment as he pondered “I was a foundling too”
@Whisper_292
@Whisper_292 Жыл бұрын
​@@sputukgmailSomething else about the, "I was a foundling too," moment was the establishment of common ground between the Doctor and Ruby, something that, AFAIK, has never happened with a Companion (except for the Doctor Donna, of course, but that wasn't at the start of a run). I think that connection will play heavily into their chemistry.
@jayanderson9375
@jayanderson9375 Жыл бұрын
@@lind774I felt the same at the “ Newell moment”!
@shell9801
@shell9801 Жыл бұрын
Two bits i loved that I don’t think you touched were the fact that Ruby figured out the doctor time is a traveller and that how eerie the scenes with Davina were
@thecybergeezer4190
@thecybergeezer4190 Жыл бұрын
I think Mrs. Flood didn’t recognize the Tardis at first because she didn’t know the Doctor was around. She thought it was just a police box that maybe Abdul had picked up somewhere. The first time it took off, Mrs. Flood was in shock because she realized it was the Tardis. That would explain her changed attitude later if she already knew the doctor, and what the tardis is. As to who she is, I have no idea, but I can’t wait to find out.
@otps8035
@otps8035 11 ай бұрын
she can't know the Doctor that well or otherwise she'd always suspect a police box to be a Tardis
@WatchwithMarcella
@WatchwithMarcella Жыл бұрын
The Doctor had his moment when Ruby entered the Tardis and he was standing there in all his glory. I loved that. I think that’s his defining moment.
@chubby_deity3143
@chubby_deity3143 Жыл бұрын
A Up for me was Ruby putting together all the pieces, it just seems like representation of a mindset that's more willing to believe in the fantastical, which sort of leads into her Tardis entrance, she went around the Tardis, realizes it's bigger on the inside...and just believes it. IMO, anyway. A Down to add as well, I was hoping the Doctor would somehow fix the roof crack, because both the Doctor and Ruby just left a newborn and an elderly in a pretty bad place. I agree with the overpowered screwdriver notion but I wouldn't have mind it got new powers to fix a situation like this once in awhile.
@moniquetroth
@moniquetroth Жыл бұрын
Agreed on the up. And personally, maybe I'm just That Old, but I love-love-LOVE that she didn't make some comment on the size difference, but just... verified and accepted. Like, "Waitaminnit, was that? ... Huh. Yup. Okay, then. Here we go." Reminded me of some of the old-school companions who just accepted "This guy is weird, so of *course* he has a weird police box that's not the same on the inside as it ought to be."
@kokirij0167
@kokirij0167 Жыл бұрын
Your theory on the Up kinda reminds me of how Rory later on was always very "Oh yeah okay, this just happened. Alright, moving on, how do I not die again" like the Tesselecta shrink ray thing
@CindoBaby
@CindoBaby Жыл бұрын
I think part of the problem with the crack is it wasn’t, any longer, a crack in time but just a crack. If it had been both he could have just *snap* fixed it quick. (As we saw with the crack in Amy’s wall) also maybe rtd wanted to keep from alluding to that other situation eleven had, even just tangentially.🤷 I kinda agree it’s weird to leave a baby and elderly person in a cold draft attic apartment. But knowing the Doctor he probably went back in time an booked a team to arrive fix it 5minutes after they left.🤷
@AndrewJLeslie
@AndrewJLeslie Жыл бұрын
It seems very odd that he's saved both the babies but can't be bothered to fix the flat's ceiling, leaving Lulubelle in a wind tunnel.
@benjaminjenkins394
@benjaminjenkins394 Жыл бұрын
Loved the ep but I’m with you there. I’m like “fix the flat please”. Haha
@bridgetthauert5518
@bridgetthauert5518 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@travismiddleton8218
@travismiddleton8218 Жыл бұрын
Ncuti is giving major Peter Davidson vibes... wholesome, a bit emotional, a fantastic fashion sense, and warm and kind to everyone around him. I'm so excited to see where his doctor goes and what adventures he goes on!
@steveom5479
@steveom5479 Жыл бұрын
He had a celery on his jacket... Was Peter Davidson fashionable??? 😂
@steve-0493
@steve-0493 Жыл бұрын
Yet I'm sure he was still happier about his costume/outfit, than Colin(The Mad Jester)Baker!😁✌️🍻
@DavidSmithsTardis
@DavidSmithsTardis Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say the 5th Doctor was warm and kind a lot of the time but Peter Davison sure
@DavidSmithsTardis
@DavidSmithsTardis Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say the 5th Doctor was warm and kind a lot of the time but Peter Davison sure
@Moneymakinglinksmedia
@Moneymakinglinksmedia Жыл бұрын
The fifth doctor who a vegtable.
@jasonmd2020
@jasonmd2020 Жыл бұрын
Showing the effect of Ruby's absence seems to me to be a nod to "It's a Wonderful Life". Which of course is a Christmas movie.
@beezig
@beezig Жыл бұрын
I just loved the energy that Ncuti brought back to the show, whatever "it" is, he has it by the bucket load.
@sarahglover3286
@sarahglover3286 Жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who assumed the Goblin basically stood on the camera and that photo was an accident rather tban it took a selfie?
@Jogproof
@Jogproof Жыл бұрын
I agree or they just picked it up not knowing what it was and accidentally took it.
@sarahglover3286
@sarahglover3286 Жыл бұрын
@Ape-shapedCarbon It makes a noise or you look down to see what you've stepped on?
@SickBoiFanatic
@SickBoiFanatic Жыл бұрын
It reminded me of ET
@eaches
@eaches Жыл бұрын
My take on the photo is - that appeared to be an old instant camera, so they accidentally knocked it over, it snapped a picture and ejected it. As those old cameras automatically did.
@NastySasquatch
@NastySasquatch Жыл бұрын
Yep, it was a common tool in shows for a little while.
@annaforbes7516
@annaforbes7516 Жыл бұрын
100%. And also... there was a craze of retro on that a few years back in UK, so it doesn't have to be an original Polaroid somehow brought there from the 1980s. It's more likely one of the more recent versions.
@robinvik1
@robinvik1 Жыл бұрын
No one: The Doctor: "You know what really puts me in the christmas spirit? F*cking murdering some aliens."
@WhoCulture
@WhoCulture Жыл бұрын
HO HO HO, MERRY DEATHMAS
@lornasullivan4235
@lornasullivan4235 Жыл бұрын
Mrs. Flood is Liz Shaw (the 3rd Doctor's 1st companion) which is why she knows what the Tardis is and told Ruby to go with him. Assuming her character was between 20 and 25 years old she could be around 75 to 80. She lit up when she saw the Police Box vanish and reappear for she realized that this was actually the Doctor's Tardis. Who else would travel in a Police Telephone box? Of course the character Liz Shaw would be recast just like the first Doctor had been.
@rennijo
@rennijo Жыл бұрын
I loved Ncuti as the Doctor, but I think the defining Doctor moment we're missing is him being scary or intimidating. There's always moments with the Doctor where you remember how ancient and powerful the Doctor is, but Ncuti hasn't had a moment yet where we feel like he'd be dangerous if he snapped. He just doesn't give the impression that he would cross lines and be terrible and go too far. Hopefully, we'll see some of that at some point. Otherwise, I do really like him. He's got the old hurt and anger he's keeping in check and the joy and the enthusiasm that makes you want to follow him on an adventure. Looking forward to seeing where we go from here.
@sheersternfeld1914
@sheersternfeld1914 Жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see him angry. Like, actually angry. Like 9th was with the lone Dalek, and 10th was as time lord victorious, and 11th was at colonel runaway, and 12th was in the Zygon invasion. The fury of a time lord is a dangerous thing, and I bet 15th is gonna be amazing at it.
@ghlmk5931
@ghlmk5931 Жыл бұрын
16:48 you are so right about this. I was intrigued by the idea of the Timeless Child, and baffled that Chibnall didn’t seem to know what direction he was going with it. I wonder if RTD is using the idea as dramatic weight and/or a connection to Ruby; or does he intend to bring that plot line to a resolution, even though he shouldn’t be held to that, he didn’t create said plot line. Dangerous ground to thread on, but we’ll see! Thanks for noticing the “mavity” line. Many early reviewers seem to have missed it! Massive up from me on the Doctor’s wardrobe. It never felt right to me that the show’s main character was always wearing the same clothes. Nine only had the one outfit, Ten had 2 suits and the occasional tuxedo, Eleven had a couple of changes, Twelve was always in black, Thirteen only changed her shirt, and Fourteen ended up with half his clothes, and finally, Fifteen said enough is enough, I’ll actually change into a new outfit every day! Love it. Entertaining video as always. Hope you guys all had a great holiday. Much success in the new year.
@arctic_wind
@arctic_wind Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this upload with such anticipation! It feels so good to have Doctor Who back at Christmas again!
@appalachianpatriot1796
@appalachianpatriot1796 Жыл бұрын
It was fun. That is what we missed soooooo much. The defining moment was the first scene where the Doctor was just watching with tears pouring down. We are immediately asking why and realize the character we know to love and cherish others is standing right there.
@blakemartin6963
@blakemartin6963 Жыл бұрын
I think the reason rubies reaction to the tardis being smaller than other companions is because she came to the realisation. He was a time traveller for seeing the tardis and so was not as taken it back. Where is the other companions? Just think he's a madman until they step into the tires and realise. Oh damn! He's an alien etc
@MrTehDBear
@MrTehDBear Жыл бұрын
One major up for me was him popping back in time to save the reporter lady. A quick scene that show's he's a much more caring Doctor than we've had in a while. I can't really imagine any of the other doctors going back to save her.
@richardturnbull8591
@richardturnbull8591 Жыл бұрын
To be honest I half expected with the Goblin's 'disappearing' in a puff of logic that the whole bad luck thing would have never happened thus not needing Davina to be saved.
@hermiona1147
@hermiona1147 Жыл бұрын
That's crazy talk, absolutely every single Doctor would go back and save an innocent person from dying, especially if they are relevant to their companion.
@TheThreebucks
@TheThreebucks Жыл бұрын
But why did she need need saving if the goblins were gone?
@jacquicanham4756
@jacquicanham4756 Жыл бұрын
Ahhh, but then why would Ruby remember him if the goblins were gone?...
@total2blue
@total2blue Жыл бұрын
Ah but the real question is, how did he know who she was or that she needed saving? He wasn't there when Ruby was talking to her on the phone.
@ProrogonLordoftheJags
@ProrogonLordoftheJags Жыл бұрын
Honestly.... I loved this episode more than the 60th specials with Tennant and Tate! Ncuti Gatwa's charisma levels are off the charts, he has incredible potential as the doctor and I can't wait to see where this goes. He also had amazing chemistry with Gibson, they're going to be brilliant I think. I'm a lot more excited for the next series now :)
@julinas1878
@julinas1878 Жыл бұрын
His grin is as magical as the rest :)
@CleanUpNick
@CleanUpNick Жыл бұрын
yeah same, Tennant is my personal favorite but the 60th specials felt kind of off to me, didn't really feel like a special, but this episode was great
@Ichigo-HKC
@Ichigo-HKC Жыл бұрын
Hands down! It normally takes me a few episodes to warm up to a new doctor but I already adore both the doctor and Ruby
@erictroxell715
@erictroxell715 Жыл бұрын
Well said. I too was extremely impressed with the chemistry between them.
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion Жыл бұрын
Smith is my Doctah, however, this is my favourite piece of Who media. Just so next level. Watched it again today
@kathycook3024
@kathycook3024 Жыл бұрын
If the Doctor had stopped the mother, he would have been changing things. What if he had caused her to change her mind and she had gone back to retrieve Baby Ruby? While that might or might not have worked out well for mother and baby, it would have caused the same devastating result for the Sunday family.
@annaforbes7516
@annaforbes7516 Жыл бұрын
Remembering that episode in the first reboot series where Ecclestone and Piper go back for Rose's dad. It didn't end well !
@salvadorlloret-farina8767
@salvadorlloret-farina8767 Жыл бұрын
A church, an adult holding their baby self, a paradox which cracks time and allows convergence and slipping in between the cracks/wounds in time. Had he found out who it would have become a fixed point in time, like when Amy read ahead in the Melody Malone novel. He had to maintain the Heisenberg Uncertainty principle in order not to Quantum lock it and make it a fixed point, That's part and parcel of why TImelords were/are dangerous. Maintaining a hold on his curiosity not putting his desire to know things above the need for people to have their own agency and genuinely make their own choices that is progress, HUGE progress wisdom and tact, knowing when it isnt right to intervene due to the cascade effect of unintended and unforeseen consequence shows so much growth - the lack of arrogant entitlement@@annaforbes7516
@IncredibleTeamAidan
@IncredibleTeamAidan Жыл бұрын
For the people who don't like musicals, if you want a sci-fi reasoning here you go: The Doctor realised that the goblins like their music so much (they literally built a stage in their transport so it must be important to them). He figured that if he shows some "respect" to their ways, the goblins will be less likely to attack them if he and Ruby join in.
@Maeve_Rose
@Maeve_Rose Жыл бұрын
i honestly didn't mind the doctor singing. it was fun, it was fantastical, as long as its not every episode, then im fine with it.
@IncredibleTeamAidan
@IncredibleTeamAidan Жыл бұрын
@@Maeve_Rose I absolutely loved the doctor and Ruby singing and really hope to see more done in this series, maybe not every episode, but definitely in situations like this where it makes sense to. (Let’s hope that the Beatles episode includes some)
@Maeve_Rose
@Maeve_Rose Жыл бұрын
@jamescastelli8507 he was stalling for time, you can see it in the episode. the best way to stall is to make them think they won and congratulate them.
@Limes_not_Lemons
@Limes_not_Lemons Жыл бұрын
I agree totally, plus it's so short lived and contained to only one scene. If it was a whole musical episode, sure, that would've turned me off of it too. But having just the one scene and having it be so entertaining overall made it just a nice scene instead of being a weird musical episode
@Techydad
@Techydad Жыл бұрын
I loved Miilie's facial expressions during the song. It really sold the "I'm scared out of my mind about this crazy situation that I'm in but I'd better think of some lyrics before I get eaten... Oh, rats, did I just sing 'how diddly-deet you'?!!!"
@taramichelle2972
@taramichelle2972 Жыл бұрын
Ncuti is absolutely brilliant as the Doctor. When he said “I’m the Doctor”. I said “Hell yes you are”. His energy is superb and he will be so much fun to watch. Loved that his first story didn’t deal with the after effects of regeneration. Also I agree Ellie that Russell will pay off the Timeless child arc in an amazing way. Loved the episode and just can’t wait for more.
@lavendargooms2056
@lavendargooms2056 Жыл бұрын
I thought we got a lot of great characterization for Ruby from this episode. My favorite bit was how excited she was when she learned Lulubelle was coming, she wasn't just happy for her mum because she was excited but Ruby herself was so thrilled, I could just really feel in that scene that Ruby had a real passion and value for fostering that of course comes from her being so successfully fostered, but there's a difference between recognizing how important fostering was in her personal life and coming to value and love having foster kids in your own life. I also loved how she was clearly scared of being up on the roof and how she kind of forgot about it when the goblin hissed at her! Like she was prepared for threats or insults or almost anything from the baby-stealer but hissing...no way dude. Honorable mention to how quick she was to laugh off her bad luck, it would be so reasonable to be quite annoyed by all the sudden mishaps, but she just makes a joke about how big a deal not having eggs for a WHOLE day will be. I get that it's easier to see character when it's sarcasm and shouting (Amy Pond is my absolute girl) but I'm already in love with Ruby's optimism and curiosity and really hope that the more time everyone spends with her the more we all get to see of what I saw in this ep!
@sheersternfeld1914
@sheersternfeld1914 Жыл бұрын
​@@AhStuttgartyes she is. She feels like a combination of Clara and Rose (Rose Tyler, not Nobel), and that's why I like her character. Why do you dislike Clara so much, that you think comparing someone to her is an insult?
@jeffwmoore
@jeffwmoore Жыл бұрын
I think the Ruby disappearing and us seeing how everyone changes is Russell T Davies' Christmas nod to It's A Wonderful Life.
@salvadorlloret-farina8767
@salvadorlloret-farina8767 Жыл бұрын
The Dr getting to experience what Donna did in Turn Left
@Kleineganz
@Kleineganz Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the purpose of the photo was to pay off a "Back to the Future" homage (where the goblin disappears in the photo after they "crack" the timeline), much like Marty McFly's siblings slowly fade from the photo as Marty inadvertently changes his parent's past. As for his new sonic... I love the look of it, but I will agree they need to stop referring to it as a "screwdriver." It's the wrong shape. Why not just call it a "sonic?"
@toughteddybear5777
@toughteddybear5777 Жыл бұрын
It only just come to me... But I'm absolutely calling that the shot of 15 with the hat on in the bar is from later in the series and that's him coming back in time.
@judithstrachan9399
@judithstrachan9399 Жыл бұрын
I thought that.
@Pannekoek.
@Pannekoek. Жыл бұрын
I really liked her reaction to the Tardis being bigger on the inside. She already figured out that he is a time traveler, and had fought goblins. So her just checking the outside after seeing the inside and accepting it, fit her personality and prior experience with the Doctor quite well.
@johngreen2550
@johngreen2550 Жыл бұрын
Ruby said she's cool with the word "foundling" cuz it's accurate, she was "foundled" -- So "goblins" that "gobbled" seems part of that same gag, no?
@tobiwalker7145
@tobiwalker7145 Жыл бұрын
The goblin wouldn't have known it was taking a picture, it takes time for the picture to develop. It picked up the camera, got flashed, dropped the camera not knowing it was leaving its photo behind. Disney has given me the best Xmas present ever. I was starting to question whether I'd be able to afford continuing with Disney+ in the new year but now, with Doctor Who, there's no longer a question! (Disney does not approve of icky CGI.)
@THEsnapcrakklepop
@THEsnapcrakklepop Жыл бұрын
I love the intelligent gloves being so simple, because little kids can pop some glow sticks on an ordinary pair of gloves and feel like they’re in the world of The Doctor. They’re perfect.
@pro_tiq
@pro_tiq Жыл бұрын
I found the entire episode to be very nostalgic, similar to the pilot episode of the 2005 premiere, Rose. Starts off with the life of the companion, getting into trouble, and then magically the Doctor appears to save the day! So it felt very cosy as I watched it wrapped up in my blanket with a warm cup of tea
@andrewmurray1550
@andrewmurray1550 Жыл бұрын
It's been said by WhoCulture that this might well be considered in some respects a reboot for a new, new Who era while also remaining respectful to the bygone shows, like the original reboot (2005) remained respectful to Classic Who, while also becoming its own thing, it looks like this Ncuti era forward could be a repeat of that.
@KedarOthort
@KedarOthort Жыл бұрын
When I first saw the Goblin King, my immediate first thought was, "Damn, Jareth, really let yourself go, huh?"
@Miller1107
@Miller1107 Жыл бұрын
I think we can safely assume the hand that picked up the tooth is Jinx Monsoon's character, which we saw briefly in the season preview at the end of the Christmas special. Very on brand for her.
@yippeeyokai5750
@yippeeyokai5750 Жыл бұрын
I just had a wild idea about who Mrs. Flood could be. When dealing with time travel nothing is impossible. Could she be an elderly version of Ruby?
@bll4132
@bll4132 Жыл бұрын
Yes I like that.
@yippeeyokai5750
@yippeeyokai5750 Жыл бұрын
@@bll4132 I picked up companion vibes from her. So my original thought was she was a former companion.
@judithstrachan9399
@judithstrachan9399 Жыл бұрын
Susan? But then they’d use Carol Ann Ford.
@WatchwithMarcella
@WatchwithMarcella Жыл бұрын
Like she predestinationed herself?
@otps8035
@otps8035 11 ай бұрын
@@judithstrachan9399 not if they didn't want people to know, but wouldn't the Doctor recognise Susan?
@codyboyd9403
@codyboyd9403 Жыл бұрын
Personally, I like that he finally has made a sonic screwdriver that doesn’t roll 😊
@MeidasWhovianAdvocate
@MeidasWhovianAdvocate Жыл бұрын
The Mavity never gets old
@WhoCulture
@WhoCulture Жыл бұрын
Only Doctor Who fans understand the mavity of this joke
@clairebeane3455
@clairebeane3455 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@Rasyr
@Rasyr Жыл бұрын
Regarding who picked up the gold tooth containing the Master We know it was a woman's hand. and that she had red nails I rewatched it the other day and the only woman in the episode with red nails is Kate Stewart, so she now has the Master in the tooth, and my guess is that he will start mentally influencing Kate in some fashion, and that is why the Doctor ends up heading back to Unit later on in the series.
@slevemcdichael101
@slevemcdichael101 Жыл бұрын
15 feels like an imaginary friend doctor, rather than a boyfriend, best friend or a dad like the last few have been. I'm so insanely excited for his doctor.
@robbuck5783
@robbuck5783 Жыл бұрын
They did address the screwdriver in the scene with the officer. “My Sonic Screwdriver” “Doesn’t look like a screwdriver” “It’s just a Sonic”
@andrewmurray1550
@andrewmurray1550 Жыл бұрын
"not a hedgehog then?".
@Ravvick
@Ravvick Жыл бұрын
Regarding the photo that the goblin left. They use rope instead of electricity, so it wouldn't know what the camera was. So it accidentally set it off and then the flash startled it so it ran away. There, that's my hand-wave for that one.
@ronaldwilson9525
@ronaldwilson9525 Жыл бұрын
Nobody writes for the secondary characters like RTD. That’s why I love his writing. To me it makes the story so well rounded.
@kian72olner
@kian72olner Жыл бұрын
My theory for Mrs Flood is that she is Ruby. Anyone that’s watched Dark (if you haven’t then go and watch it you won’t regret it) will understand how this works because I think Ruby’s mother is also Ruby’s daughter. The ultimate wibbly wobbly timey wimey storyline.
@conwarlock3537
@conwarlock3537 Жыл бұрын
Cherry Sunday also really reminded me of the coffee lady in 'Come Fly with Me', played by Matt Lucas
@MaybeItsGas
@MaybeItsGas Жыл бұрын
I have this really strong feeling that Jenny is coming back sometime soon. My current theories are 1. Ruby is Jenny's daughter. We don't know what happened after Jenny left in that ship. Maybe she's been hunted for being a time lord or just gotten herself into trouble like dear old dad, and needs to hide her child. 2. Mrs Flood is a regeneration of Jenny. It felt kind of unclear in The Doctors Daughter if Jenny is actually timelord, or if the terraforming energy gave her a burst of life that saved her. However with the Timeless Child arc, there's no way Jenny wouldn't be able to regenerate if she's truly a genetic copy of the Doctor. Either way, I just feel like if ever there was a time to bring Jenny back it's now.
@vedangi.x
@vedangi.x Жыл бұрын
Unlikely but would be fun
@A1exBOfficial
@A1exBOfficial Жыл бұрын
@@vedangi.xAgreed
@neilhawkins9017
@neilhawkins9017 Жыл бұрын
RTD said in an interview that Jenny The Doctors daughter took off in her space ship flew it into a sun and blew up the end.
@jdottdeestv8149
@jdottdeestv8149 Жыл бұрын
But a lot can happen in that time. You could eat an apple, peel an orange... If you catch my drift, could you give it back? It's been missing a while. @@neilhawkins9017
@daiyahigashikata
@daiyahigashikata Жыл бұрын
​@@neilhawkins9017 no, he didn't say anything like that in an interview. he joked with moffat that she crashed into a moon
@escargoat8552
@escargoat8552 Жыл бұрын
My main down was the pacing. There was a lot of slack throughout the episode (especially after they rescued the baby) and yet the ending felt so abrupt. I really wanted to see just a bit more back and forth between 15 and Ruby in the TARDIS but instead it felt like we spent allll the time in the world in that flats hallway.
@Seal0626
@Seal0626 Жыл бұрын
Pretty big coincidence that Ruby and the Doctor knew what to sing, wasn't it? Almost like the kind of massive coincidence that fueled the whole plot and was very much acknowledged within the episode.
@oldmuso586
@oldmuso586 Жыл бұрын
The photo of the goblin: I got the impression that the goblin could see into Ruby's house through the photo.
@SplotchTheCatThing
@SplotchTheCatThing Жыл бұрын
I FIGURED OUT WHY THE GOBLINS DO THE SONG! They "season" their food with coincidence, right? Coincidence... is just when two unrelated events sound the same. You take that concept, replace "event" with "word", and that's a rhyme. The coincidences are one sort of rhyme, and the song is another kind. And if they feed on rhyme, that means singing the song before they eat must add even more flavour to their meal!
@modboyhenry1
@modboyhenry1 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion I actually love the extra abilities the sonic can have. They don’t need to go overboard with it but having some new uses are great to see. But I do agree the new sonic doesn’t even look anything like the sonic screwdrivers. If it was just called the sonic or something like the sonic lance or remote don’t know. I enjoyed this episode and the dynamic between the doctor and ruby. Ncuti and Millie are amazing together can’t wait for me. I enjoyed Ruby’s reaction to the Tardis WAY better than whatever 13’s companions said honestly forgot what they said.
@judithstrachan9399
@judithstrachan9399 Жыл бұрын
I can’t help hoping that, sometime, he presses a button & an actual screwdriver comes out & he uses it. “But I *said* it was a screwdriver!”
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion Жыл бұрын
@@judithstrachan9399”nothing beats a good old Phillips!” “Wot??”
@IreneWY
@IreneWY Жыл бұрын
I really don't like the new sonic 😅😅
@neilgodwin6531
@neilgodwin6531 Жыл бұрын
My electric screwdriver doesn't look like a screwdriver. Shaped more like a pistol. Does the same job. I like the design because it removes the tendency to point it like a weapon. "They're scientific instruments", "what are you going to do, assemble a cabinet at them?"
@kurtpaulsen6579
@kurtpaulsen6579 Жыл бұрын
I kind of have to agree here... Yes Capaldi had his Sonic Shades, but he always referred to them as 'Glasses' not a screwdriver... Made it work for me...
@KokuroSame
@KokuroSame Жыл бұрын
I’m making my prediction now, not only is Mrs. Flood Ruby’s real mother, but she’s also “The One Who Waits.” And I believe this because even though She may not have recognized the Tardis at first, once she saw it dematerialize her shock (dropping the bags) wasn’t in seeing a wooden box disappear, but in realizing it was a Tardis. And then, what did she do for the rest of the episode? She sat outside her porch and *waited* for the Doctor to come back, and leave, and come back, and leave again. Just sitting there on her porch. I think that is primo foreshadowing to “The One Who Waits” without making it obvious. Like with Missy in her original appearances. Watching back, it’s so obviously an incarnation of the Master with how weird she is, but at the same time it worked because she was weird, but it was subtle weirdness. So yeah, Mrs. Flood is going to be “The One Who Waits.” That’s my main prediction.
@andrewmurray1550
@andrewmurray1550 Жыл бұрын
To say Mrs Flood is Ruby's mother could make sense in a timey-wimey kind of way. Who knows if she happened to turn around seeing the Tardis depart (attention caught by the wheezing of the Tardis (having left its parking brake on (according to River Song), and then as Mrs Flood remembering it all those years later, the funny Police Box that always ends up out of place (and time) whereever it goes.
@Chester_Kitten
@Chester_Kitten Жыл бұрын
Does Ruby remind anyone of Rose Tyler? Both start with R and both start in a "series begining(kinda)?" Also, I love the fact that Ncuti was wearing 9s Jacket(Definitely looks like it) for a part of the episode( also series 1 style vibes). I also love how Ms Flood talks directly to the audience and asks if we've seen a TARDIS before. It was quite funny. I've thoughts that its weird that at the begining she hasn't a clue what a TARDIS is and at the end she does. I think she is either Ruby's mother, Ruby herself, or some random character that'll be put into place later in may. One thing I don't understand is why some people decide to "rank" things or say that the "Chibnall Era" was bad. I don't think it ever was. Something to add is; How come Doctor Who has damn good continuity for things 40-50 years in the future of its show even though it "wasn't the plan."? It's either a real story of sorts, or is just good at paying attention to the history of the show and reality before writing it. Another thing to say is, I love the commitment to the whole "mavity" thing. I have a speculation that that has something setting up for Ncuti's seasons. Or was just made to become a new running Joke of sorts.
@-Gothicgirl-
@-Gothicgirl- Жыл бұрын
The house where the snow man fall is the shop where rose worked
@Rhaenarys
@Rhaenarys Жыл бұрын
I saw a poll asking about which era was peoples favorites...i thought they were all good.
@andrewmurray1550
@andrewmurray1550 Жыл бұрын
It could well be a fourth-wall break for those who HAVEN'T seen Who before, literally asking the question "You haven't seen a Tardis before?" could also be interpreted as asking (rhetorically) "You haven't seen this show before?", because I'm sure there are Disney+ audiences that may not have.
@kanton4108
@kanton4108 Жыл бұрын
8:04 The Doctor first met Ruby on the roof. The scenes we saw of him earlier happened after the episode was resolved. The clue was given to him when Ruby told him that she'd met him before in her past, but his future. This prompted him to have to go back and meet her in the past to keep the timeline in order.
@LoverOfBellies
@LoverOfBellies Жыл бұрын
Erm they met a couple of times before that; one of which was in the club - you're trying to overcomplicate the episode
@Austin_Rummel
@Austin_Rummel Жыл бұрын
That scene of the doctor dancing in the club with the skirt, to keep my parents from getting annoyed I was like "He's Scottish!"
@newhappiness4410
@newhappiness4410 Жыл бұрын
The mother who dropped Ruby off looks strangely like it could be Jodie Whittaker the 13th doctor. I’m sure Russell Davis has plans for her to come back to link with the 15th doctor. Remember the doctor is also an orphan like Ruby
@WatchwithMarcella
@WatchwithMarcella Жыл бұрын
I think Ruby’s mother might be Mrs. Flood. What bigger coincidence than to live next door to your mother the entire time.
@newhappiness4410
@newhappiness4410 Жыл бұрын
@@WatchwithMarcella good point she obviously met the doctor before
@jamesmcilroy9190
@jamesmcilroy9190 Жыл бұрын
I think Ruby is the child of River Song and the doctor after their last night together, 27 years is a long time…
@newhappiness4410
@newhappiness4410 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesmcilroy9190 the writers would’ve had several scenarios acted out to keep fans guessing. If River Song is tipped to come back then it’s possible. I know Jodie Whittaker was discussed by Russell T Davis on a possible return
@jackiecozzie4803
@jackiecozzie4803 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if it was Jodie, and that's why he didn't go after her when she dropped Ruby off. He already knew who it was, and for some reason can't tell Ruby to protect her?
@crawdadnc479
@crawdadnc479 Жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas! I loved the line "I'm learning the vocabulary of knots." Or was it "rope"? Great either way. Gatwa felt like the Doctor in his first moment in The Giggle, and here just the way he carries himself and looks at things you can tell that is the Doctor navigating spaces and figuring things out. I love that this show has been so much fun and so imaginative, and still makes me happy to watch after I first saw it nearly 40 years ago. Great to see the Doctor having fun, too! Agreed about the chemistry between Gatwa and Gibson. It crackles. Also intrigued about Ruby's past. I'm sure her mother will turn out to be related to whatever the overarching plot for the next season (or more?) will be. There's that litany of old Who characters who are always fantasy booked to show up again but never do, so I'll be happily surprised if it is one of them, but I ain't holding my breath. Seems likely it will tie into at least some further exploration of the Timeless Child stuff, and maybe repairing some of the damage of the Flux? Maybe? I wouldn't be surprised if Ms. Flood does not return. That third wall breaking and wink at the end could simply be a little silly fun in the spirit of a Christmas special that already had some very fanciful elements. But who knows? I reckon we'll find out in the Spring. Whatever the details, it promises to be a good time.
@hmspretender
@hmspretender Жыл бұрын
The ending gave me a nice chuckle. The only person/being I can think Mrs. Flood could be, as she has been introduced so early and had a seeming attitude/personality shift, is "the one who waits" as mentioned by the Toymaker.
@Mark-nh2hs
@Mark-nh2hs Жыл бұрын
Nah I think she's being set up to be the new Wilfred type character.
@Croftice1
@Croftice1 Жыл бұрын
@@Mark-nh2hs Would perfectly fit a Wilf like character. She was annoyed first by the TARDIS appearance (mainly being in her way), then shocked by her sudden disappearance and in the end was fully aware of what a TARDIS is, even knowing her name. Wilfred introduced to us in the Christmas special Voyage of the Damned was first quite annoyed by the aliens invading London around every Christmas, then later knowing the Doctor, he completely changed his attitude towards "them aliens" as the Doctor was one of the good ones (remember Wilf's reaction to the Vinochi, or whatever the Cacti species was called - the VotD Wilf would still be annoyed by the Cacti).
@morganrandler7235
@morganrandler7235 Жыл бұрын
I cant be the only one who was constantly thinking of David Bowie's Goblin King this whole episode 😂
@Quackle88
@Quackle88 Жыл бұрын
it's not very often that i agree with every point in these up/down vids, but i fully agree with every point made in this one! love the channel, I came right here after i watched the episode
@nightbreed16
@nightbreed16 Жыл бұрын
I also had ups and very few downs with this episode but the photo of The Goblin was a big up for me I can understand why some don't but I love the silliness of it.
@julianaylor4351
@julianaylor4351 Жыл бұрын
I loved that the goblins used ropes, like we use electronic circuitry. I think the goblins existed, because the Toymaker has interfered with the reality of the Doctor's universe.
@richardturnbull8591
@richardturnbull8591 Жыл бұрын
That is a BS I can go along with, I found the Fantasy elements jarring, but this would be a working head canon. That said I would hope that this kind of thing fades as the Toymakers influence fades.
@SNiBet
@SNiBet Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the whole rope thing should've been an up!
@yensid4294
@yensid4294 Жыл бұрын
Ncuti Gatwa (hope I spelled that right) is *very* charismatic & animated. *And* he can sing?! Yes please. I thought maybe the little arms causing mischief were going to belong to the Yule Lads since it's a Xmas Special. The Goblins stealing babies felt too Labyrinth, but it was still an enjoyable ep. Really liked the design of their ship.
@louzcoins
@louzcoins Жыл бұрын
My theory Ruby's mother is river song..they even have the same initials
@louisejohnson6057
@louisejohnson6057 Жыл бұрын
I don't think that the goblin knew what the camera was. He probably saw it and pressed the button, and was gone before it developed.
@ApolloRacer
@ApolloRacer Жыл бұрын
The musical episode in SNW was divided in reactions? Really? I haven't seen it; in fact, I'd say it was very refreshing, very well done, and it's my favorite episode of the series so far. I can't get enough of it.
@BlueCanary7
@BlueCanary7 Жыл бұрын
I've only seen overwhelmingly positive feedback, including from this channel! Honestly, it was amazing, and I'm so thrown to hear it described as getting "mixed reactions." Mixed _where_??
@Waterflame
@Waterflame Жыл бұрын
I'm very excited for this version of the Doctor having multiple costumes! It's a refreshing change of pace!!
@Fredkitchens
@Fredkitchens Жыл бұрын
great range of gaye vests
@RobStevens64
@RobStevens64 Жыл бұрын
I think the thing they’re going for in this season is that messing with time has repercussions, which is honestly something Doctor Who has shied away from getting involved in. We’ve seen how there have been some changes, but the two things that have me thinking this will be a running thread are “mavity’ making a comeback and not being a throwaway gag, and Mrs. Flood suddenly being completely aware of what a TARDIS is (especially considering I don’t think that word is uttered at all in the rest of the episode). I think we need to be on the lookout for changes like this through this upcoming season.
@SchardtCinematic
@SchardtCinematic Жыл бұрын
The entire goblin song and look of that sequence reminded me of Labryth. I was waiting for a David Bowie look a like to be the Goblin King. But then I got a Star Wars vibe when seeing the goblin king.
@christinewhoyt
@christinewhoyt Жыл бұрын
I really need to watch that. xD Although in Spanish since I heard it has more an effect than in English.
@alanCalhoun2
@alanCalhoun2 Жыл бұрын
Doc Who Sold Out To Disney. David Tenant heard the Cloister Bells many times. And he is back again. Gizmodo: One of the Doctor Who Christmas Special's Best Scenes Was a Disney Suggestion.
@gracerigby361
@gracerigby361 Жыл бұрын
Mentioned this on another vid but after the trauma the doctor has been through I'm quite happy with the direction they're taking the character in it,it feels fresh.
@Mark-nh2hs
@Mark-nh2hs Жыл бұрын
The trauma which was never a issue in Classic Who it's just some crap NuWho rubbish pulled of its arse to finally create a Doctor who isn't a 10th Doctor clone like the majority of NuWho Doctors became post 10th.
@Lmnaop
@Lmnaop Жыл бұрын
I loved the episode. Ncuti was so charming I couldn’t look away. Ruby Sunday is an incredible fan insert for me, I’m struck by the fashion. Idk how I feel about the goblins, but it was a great first Christmas special for my family!! Some mysteries to look forward to, new gadgets, charisma galore. My mom said “we have to wait til spring?” At the end of the episode , so it’s hooked atleast one new fan.
@WanderingCactus
@WanderingCactus Жыл бұрын
I did like the sonic failing on the door not because it's wood, but there's no screws to work on, that was a funny twist on the classic 'doesn't work on wood' I think Ncuti didn't chase after Ruby's mom because he just saw what would happen if the past was changed, so does he want to risk that again? I'm really looking forward to the explanation about Miss Flood
@kokirij0167
@kokirij0167 Жыл бұрын
I agree on the sonic screwdriver thing. I was literally sitting there like "Doctor, that's a wooden door, it doesn't work on wood" and then he says the screws line and I'm just "Oh- That too I suppose"
@xavthesimmer725
@xavthesimmer725 Жыл бұрын
When I heard Ncuti mention how he needs screws I yelled out "AND YET YOU COULD FIX BARBED WIRE!?" I love Doctor Who but the inconsistencies regarding the sonic do my head in.
@WanderingCactus
@WanderingCactus Жыл бұрын
@@xavthesimmer725 Laughs, "Yeah the sonic is really inconsistent. I think this may be another case of them trying to explain some of it away, now it's not that it's wood, it's that there's no metal to work on. I don't think it needs to be screws, just metal, however it's quicker, easier and stays with the screwdriver theme to say there's no screws."
@SG20three
@SG20three Жыл бұрын
Great review, thank you so much. Very pleased to see Doctor Who back on Christmas Day, and I agree that the opening sequence with the church and the snow was quite magical. Generally enjoyed this Christmas episode and look forward to seeing how the mystery of Ruby’s biological mother pans out… and who on earth is Mrs Flood?
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