New Balance 880v14 vs.1080v13 | Which to Choose?

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[@wongsinghowe]

The more I watch your reviews, the more I like, straight to the main points.

[@DoctorsofRunning]

Thank you!

[@lassekarsholt6115]

Can't wait for the 860v14 review, huge changes a 13vs14 video would be great and straight up your alley of stability shoes Matt!

[@snowwalker9999]

I am buying the 1080 for walking everyday shoe because I stand and walk for hours at work. The 880 has always been a workhorse daily trainer.

[@caio2423]

I hate walking on my 1080s. They give me the feeling that I'm falling backwards. With that said, they’re my all time favorite running shoes ever.

[@snowwalker9999]

@@caio2423 Thanks for the feedback is good to know.

[@brianpistolwhip]

Yeah I definitely like new balance for their 4e foot form. Better than any other brand imo.

[@philliesblunt247]

I need soft. I'm on my feet for 36 plus hours a week and most of the time I'm standing or walking. These seem fantastic with my walk hero insoles.

[@movdqa]

One big difference between the 1080 and 880 is that you can usually pick up the 880 deeply discounted 6-12 months after release while it is much harder to find the 1080 on deep discount. I preferred the 1080v12 upper to the 108013. The 1080v12 has a really stretchy upper while the 1080v13 has some give but I wouldn't call it stretchy.

[@colinmadbeast]

That will change with this model. 880, 1080, and 860 will be MAP protected for the life of the shoe.

[@movdqa]

@@colinmadbeast What does MAP protected mean?

[@colinmadbeast]

@@movdqa minimum advertised price. Basically their core models will maintain price through the duration of the shoe. There will be a drop in price two months before 880v15 comes out, but the days of finding current footwear for 40-60 percent off are kinda over.

[@movdqa]

@@colinmadbeast I guess we'll see. The market is the ultimate arbiter of prices. Companies try pretty hard to bend that but the nature of competition should be to lower prices. There is significant discounting in the shoe world right now as a response to more companies coming in with more models along with the weakening financial health of consumers. TJX is at record highs and Ross Stores is close to record highs and they are always an option too.

[@colinmadbeast]

@@movdqa I mean, sort of. Post Covid, shoe brands were way over inventoried, so you could find really good deals. Now, they're going in the other direction. They can set the prices because they have the product. Hoka, in particular (and Brooks for that matter) are particularly aggressive in monitoring their price points. I know of a number of stores that Hoka straight up dropped because they didn't abide by the MAP guidelines. They want to be seen as premium brands. If you want to compete against them (as NB does), you need to maintain the integrity of your own brand, which means not being viewed as a "cheap" brand. In regards to TJ Maxx and Ross, you're not going to find these types of shoes there really either, for the same reason.

[@mshk999]

very good comprehensive review. thanks for the information i always said which one to buy

[@avischachter6377]

Excellent to the point comparison review!

[@caclavijo]

860v14 is the right one!

[@cristian-adrianfrasineanu9855]

Question for Matt: what are the best shoes for when coming off an achilles tendinitis injury (or when trying to progress during a rehab)

[@davidmcquade4743]

Great comparison - I tried both of these shoes on yesterday. 1080s are shockingly soft...especially in the heel. The 880s felt so solid. It reminded me of the Hoka Cliftons but without that obtrusive arch support and a little more ground feel.The 880s are a wider in the forefoot too. It felt really nice. Matt - do you think a runner with high arches is more protected with a firmer cushioned shoe or a soft cushioned?

[@PaulGrcia]

Love the 1080 V13! Great for walking!

[@georgesoto5436]

Thanks for the video, I will never by 1080 again, way too soft for me, and after 200 miles are showing considerable wear on the sides and where I land (back end of my foot)

[@Charles-kc2vt]

Are you planning to review the 860v14 as well?

[@DoctorsofRunning]

If it comes!

[@cosmaddi]

I agree the 1080 are probably the softest daily trainers (I find the fuelcell in the SC elite v3 even softer, although the carbon fiber plate helps there to counterbalance the softness). However, I was surprised I could pick up the pace in them quite easily.

[@iBrA1MAN]

Totally agree with 1080 being possibly the softest shoe ever. No resiliency at all, never understood where other shoetubers felt 1080 has "bounce".

[@i.p2088]

The bounce is in their bank account

[@ZenDao_85]

Probably comes down to weight.. 1080 is king lol. Im 130 pounds. Its bouncy for me. Locks up a higher pace aswell. While foams like pwrrn pb.. more tuned to heavier runners. I dont compress that at all. Firm and no bounce.

[@davidmcquade4743]

The 1080 is tempting to buy when you walk around the shoe store with it. It feels sooooo soft. But logging daily miles in it would be a different story for me.

[@RobManser77]

The 1080 is horrifically soft. I've just bought a pair and two short runs was all I could stand. They're so soft that they transfer load to parts of my feet that aren't used to taking load. Horrible things.

[@charlesvictoria6800]

It’s like comparing your kids. I got both hahah. Love the fresh foam x line ❤

[@marcelorodriguezsandri8414]

Hola. Felicitaciones de nuevo por el canal. Podrían hacer un vídeo comparando el vongo V6 con el 880

[@aristodiga82]

I'm actually looking for long term review of the 880v14. Not from outsole standpoint because outsoles usually lasts to 300-400 miles, but from midsole standpoint. I stopped using New Balance because midsole durability I think is not so good. My last 2 new balance are the Beacon v1 and the fuelcell Propel v1. Both shoes felt dead after around 250-300km (less than 200 miles), and then I stopped using them completely after around 400km (around 250/260 miles). I don't expect much, but my other shoes usually lasts for around 550km (around 330 miles) or a bit more. Hoping to know how long will the characteristics of fresh foam X will last, especially since I also use daily trainers sometimes as travel shoes if I work outside of my town.

[@Edu0919]

I like your review; straight to the point no BS. I prefer buying 1080 as the nature of my work is mostly standing and moving around. My question is, is 1080 works for flat footed?

[@Nerowise6764]

It works for flat foot. I have flat foot too but because its too soft it doesn't have much support and I ended up getting shin splin. I ended up buying the 990v6 for comfort and support. 1080 I did use for long walks and it is very comfortable but end of the day no support.

[@DTOWNRW16]

I put the 1080 on and forget i even have them on my feet. makes me want to keep pushing the milage on and will be doing a large bulk of my marathon training miles in them, along with the speed 3 for workouts and the tempus when i need some stability.

[@omegalgo297]

Thank you very much 🎉

[@Naattik]

I have neutral feet but recently got Plantar Fasciitis although it’s under control with foot exercises but should I try 860 for a little more stability or should I get more cushion? I tried the Asiscs Nimbus,, it was like wet sand lol.

[@Tech-Kino2685]

I want both!

[@ckgonzales6743]

I'm looking for a shoe to help with extensor tendonitis. My Dr gave me orthotics and told me to wear a good supportive shoe. Any suggestions? I'm looking at the NB880 or 860 but am open to others. I would need to be able to wear them with an orthotic. Also, I should say that I am not a runner. These would be for everyday life.

[@MRX5000X]

How does the More v4 compare to these? You mentioned the 1080 is very soft and not very stable. How are those traits compared to More v4?

[@hum-dinger2453]

No comparison. MORE V4s way better then the 1080v13

[@filoIII]

@@hum-dinger2453 WHY is the More better?

[@DoctorsofRunning]

Find our review of the 880v14 here: www.doctorsofrunning.com/2024/06/new-balance-fresh-foam-x-880v14-review.html

[@2008knightx]

Link Review 1080 pls

[@JoeBoy1056]

For a low arch/ flat feet, not really a severe pronator. 860 v14 or 880 v14 with curex low insole?

[@stevenglen5971]

1080 a good walker shoes?

[@yanivdor1]

Hi, if i have toe mobility issue, what running shoe is the best with high cushion ? thanks

[@orchestertan123]

Whats better for casual walking?

[@PaulGrcia]

1080 V13

[@Frichilsasta08]

880v14 sounds like its a lot like the ride 15/16 from saucony

[@i.p2088]

I listened (twice) to the Podcast with Mizuno. Will it come up as a video?

[@DoctorsofRunning]

It’ll be out Sunday!

[@io-rj6sk]

880v14 way better than 880v13?

[@hum-dinger2453]

Way

[@io-rj6sk]

@@hum-dinger2453 how so?

[@hum-dinger2453]

@@io-rj6sk way better fit and a one piece lighter foam that's firm yet responsive. I actually prefer the 880 v12 over the v13s but the v14s on a different level.

[@io-rj6sk]

@@hum-dinger2453 dam different level! im gna wait for th next colourway batch then try em

[@marcoc2706]

5:10 Looks like the 1080's outsole wears down more.

[@damonbonnett6983]

880.. the 1080v13 foam is awful

[@jeffhicks8428]

the new 1080 is too soft. it's just mush. if they firmed it just a tad it would have been a great new version, but the v12 is just better in every way for me. tried to order another one but they're gone. and this is so annoying about running shoes. nothing lasts. here today, gone later and never seen again. it's such a gimmick. why does every shoe need to be totally changed every 9 months? gimmick.

[@zombiefreak3]

Totally agree V12 has everything it needs. V14 feels too soft for me too!

[@JDeezle21]

They fixed it this year in the V14

[@jeffhicks8428]

@@JDeezle21 yeah. I got one. the midsole is extremely comfortable for walking or jogging. I think the fit on the upper got worse though. it's more narrow in the midfoot and the toe box is more pointy. it's also way stiffer and more rockered than any 1080 I've seen before. But it's alright. it's pretty comfy.

[@Dave-zl2ky]

I have a pair of 1080s sitting next to me. Useless for any activity.

[@paulyeh6918]

I have been wearing New Balance for years. Unfortunately their shoes are made in Vietnam recently. The quality of the shoes is Not the same as before. So disappointed 😢😢😢

[@Shakawkaw]

Cry