How I beat Renegade Platinum - The Hardest Gen 4 Rom Hack

[@DocZ]

Who's your MVP for this challenge? Let me know!

[@djdrizzy9139]

Shell armour Torterra. Very reliable!

[@abhiramreddy2938]

Politoad the rain setter is the mvp and kingdra together but drizzle politoad is good

[@LukasArailiys]

Technician Scizor: I got lucky with that encounter, but it was able to sweep pretty much anything with swords dance, bullet punch and bug bite. SO broken

[@HAMINATORballin]

Togekiss and Substitute Breloom

[@marloncoleman2600]

Have played this many times and it’s usually milotic or tangrowth. Both so bulky

[@joaobrito2653]

that aaron fight is a huge run killer, the fact you didnt prep for it and didnt lose outright is a huge win

[@nateschendel4585]

I think Lucian is much worse Alakazam with counter n scarfs That sounds alot scarier than most people realize

[@joaobrito2653]

@@nateschendel4585 i mean yeah alakazam with counter will kill a mon if you dont know its coming but the rest isnt that hard if you have a decent team. that aaron fight is pretty hard because he has all fully evolved pokemon at a stage where you likely dont have many fully evolved pokemon and a lot of the mons he has have buffed stats and will wreck your team. i wiped to it because my team wasnt healed and i didnt expect a battle there so i just full on wiped, but even with planning it wasnt super easy. obviously encounters play into it but i think early game fights are usually the ones that murder you because you dont have many encounters. later on in the game yoi should be able to have encounters to beat most teams with planning. you can also manipulate certain encounters to guarantee a specific pokemon in a route as well.

[@sassas1487]

I didn`t count it. Aaron says that it`s okay if i lose.

[@tylersmith3533]

Even with strats, his Dustox can do super unexpected things. I was planning on Stealth Rock w/ Gligar > switch and Sub w/ Umbreon > Baton Pass to Togetic > Nasty Plot x3 > Baton Pass to Quilava with level edged to 27 and max speed evs > Lava Plume the entire team. Well, the AI apparently knows that Gligar _might_ have the Immunity ability, and therefore, the Dustox didn't try to Toxic on either of the first two turns - landed a Bug Buzz on my Umbreon, and because it was faster, it landed a second, which crit killed. I still managed to set up the Nasty Plots with Togekiss and Lava Plume, but the level edge wasn't close enough due to split xp and his Drapion came in, outsped and wiped me. The other run killers in this game: First Barry fight (if you play with deaths before Poke Balls as a loss) Second Barry fight - he's given an almighty powerful Munchlax that has an insane attack stat, you need to be lucky, there's no real encounters you can get to counter it Mira in Wayward cave without prep. Kadabra is super fast and strong, but that Porygon-2 is a nightmare Rival on 207. Lucas' Granbull has so much coverage that you're just not expecting, and Dawn has a Scrappy Lopunny, so Ghost strats won't work. Other rival fights aren't too bad because you can abuse Choice items and other stuff, but this one just pops up out of nowhere and is a massive difficulty spike in terms of rival fights. Aaron, as above The Saturn+Backlot/Barry+you fight if you don't do the right things. Taking out 1 side leaves you with a 2v1, or at worse, a 1v1. Nothing worse than being 1v2 in that fight. Pastoria Barry - first time he's really difficult, and if you don't know it's coming, you have your Wake team ready and then he ambushes you After that, it's mostly what's covered in the video - Darach (why the fuck does he have an Entei?!), Riley, Candice (if you're not prepped for Glaceon, Hail + Snow Cloak + Double Team + Bright Powder + Blizzard with no accuracy check), the 12v12 (DocZ got really lucky here - in FlygonHG's first attempt, the Electivire came out on Barry's Snorlax and one shot it which led to a loss), then Cyrus 2+6v6, Marley after Victory Road and Lucas/Dawn afterwards too. The elite 4, from what I've seen (haven't gotten there yet myself, furthest attempt is Wake so far), isn't actually difficult, because the teams are too spread out, so there's no real concentration of power in any team other than Cynthia's original team if that's what she uses. Even then, as long as you bring a counter for the guaranteed Pokemon, like Garchomp and Milotic, you're super fine.

[@josiahnoblahblah]

I see how it can be a run killer but also I didnt see it coming and dam near had a sweep basto the don am boost back to back bug buzz proof sweep everything to his drapion came in

[@albabimam1114]

Pokemon Renegade Platinum is the reason why Manaphy is my favorite Pokemon of all time. I saw PC's videos and saw him put it at B tier around Blastoise, so I thought using it would be fine. But after I got it, every battle basically became "send in Pelipper, switch to Togekiss and Encore into something unfavorable. Switch to Manaphy, Tail glow and sweep, resting off the damage. Love you Manaphy

[@linsteven9163]

Saw you on r/stunfisk with your rankings of fully evolved pokemon of each type, your dedication is amazing! There's no way I can type that much words for a consistent amount of time.

[@albabimam1114]

@@linsteven9163 thanks a lot

[@linsteven9163]

@@albabimam1114 That was fast

[@CharlieGreasby]

Togekiss in renplat is so good

[@albabimam1114]

@@CharlieGreasby it's borderline broken lol

[@ravenknight4195]

This man is slowly killing off the drayano hit list

[@reikong6042]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

[@rntobi2931]

My god that damn Ad transition was one of the best I've ever seen before.

[@solgaleo3533]

36:36 I’ve noticed that too. Sometimes, if you have Motor Drive, Lightning Rod, Storm Drain, Sap Sipper, Flash Fire, ETC in a multi battle, the AI will purposefully use the moves that trigger the ability on you to boost your stats

[@thsand5032]

Okay, got to say... I couldn't help but smile when I saw what they had done for the Mars and Jupiter double fight. In the Pokemon Adventures manga, Jupiter has a tangrowth, a gastrodon and a sableye, and Mars has an electivire and a bunch of yanmega(s ? ae ?). And she has a Kangaskhan in Pokemon Diamond and Pearl Adventure! Same for Helio and Magnezone. And I LOVE these references.

[@greyvanity]

i’m glad someone also saw this! The Manga gives really interesting pokemon to the main line characters which makes them super more diverse and less of the same with multiple poison types and stuff like that!

[@mihailmarin4683]

Yeah, although just to say she didn’t own all of those Yanmega, she had just one as part of her actual team.

[@Klonoahedgehog]

And Cyrus used Magnezone

[@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502]

I'm pretty sure the plural of all pokemon is just their name with no changes, so more yanmega would be referred to as "a bunch of yanmega"

[@marloncoleman2600]

Blastoise is actually amazing in this game and same with empoleon because u can use them as bulky yawn protect users

[@MidoseitoAkage]

Same with Torterra. He can take any hit like a champ and the fact he can't get critical hit. Even you can stalling your opponent.

[@Starmeistr]

Misty is proud of her babies with that Fantina sweep In the Wake fight, I led with Intimidate Feraligatr, switched to Gyarados w/ Leftovers, Substitute + Dragon Dance, then Return sweep. Also, Counter is negative priority

[@Lucas22780]

That magnezone death to houndoom was pure genius

[@DocZ]

It just had to happen

[@shiny_hunter689]

@@DocZ why did u name Barry 8:49

[@nateschendel4585]

@@DocZ I would say you are pretty good at nuzlockes I think if you want to be the best beat emerald kaizo and radical red hardcore difficulty nuzlocke first

[@saur_sop99]

@@nateschendel4585 kaizo😵

[@gaberobison680]

Counter Alakazam works because of Magic Guard guaranteeing Focus Sash stays intact. It also naturally hides LO damage so you don’t reveal Sash. It works because alakazam still hits hard and Counter allows it to be a reliable revenge killer

[@caterlloo]

I’m sorry, WUT?! Turtwig knows *freaking earthquake?* WHAT?! GG on the win btw!

[@AlyxIsSpelledWeird]

Yeah he gets it in the base game too

[@adammannion5832]

@@AlyxIsSpelledWeird turtwig doesnt learn it, but torterra does

[@_SodaZ]

when i played renegade platinum i was hella mad for some reason that riley had a lv 49 sala because it was literally *ONE* level away from evolving

[@alessiopiscitelli2749]

Tiny optimization: ice beam actually did do more damage to dialga because of spread reduction, so there was no need to risk kiss to surf crit. Overall great run and great content!!

[@realblazing391]

Well you're right. He should not have risked surf crit there. +2 moonblast still would had killed but surf is actually more damge there. Simple math. Surf= 95*1.5 (Stab)*1.5 (Rain) 213.75÷2(resistance)=106.875 and ice beam is still just 90

[@alessiopiscitelli2749]

@@realblazing391 right except you forgot to factor in spread reduction. All moves that target more than one mon in double battles do 75% of the damage they would normally do, so take 106 and multiply it by .75, which makes it less than 90..... Just to explain further: Earthquake's power in a double battle is 75, not 100. This is one of the reasons high horsepower was run on excadrill more commonly than earthquake when sand was good in early vgc2020

[@realblazing391]

@@alessiopiscitelli2749 oh I actually didn't know that. Thanks for telling me.

[@realblazing391]

Oh, I guess that's the reason why I was always shocked to see when I use water spout kyogre and the damage output won't be able to knockout stuff like xerneas, zygarde which will normally take out in singles.

[@derhollander910]

But palkia was dead so the spread damage is still applied?

[@aalamvirsinghdhaliwal1701]

Lucian's Alakazam isn't slow. Counter has negative priority which makes it go 2nd

[@dragodjordje2425]

this dude calls himself second best nuzlocker and dont knew that. i was pretty upset

[@ItsFireTiger]

@@dragodjordje2425 Calls himself? So not proven?

[@joseeduardo7002]

The alakazam Lucian was using isn't slow, counter has negative priority

[@sirgoodra996]

I wasn’t thinking the same thing he was probably just burned out and forgot

[@elithesomewhatsane8209]

the arcanine using wild charge was amazing

[@FatalHog]

Literally came to the comments to say that.

[@rolandbercot3004]

I swept wake with a jolly, technician bullet seed brelom

[@eththeleaf4763]

I just liked it when Nick said he would take a flamethrower, from the Houndoom but the crit was very unfortunate

[@simi6751]

I’m currently running this game with a different rules set I’m making hardcore plus. Same rules but it bans EVS, Caps every single boss fight (think required trainers Cheryl) makes optional battles required and then no setup. It makes for a really interesting challenge as in this game it’s super easy to setup. Maybe after you run a few more games your could come back to this one!

[@Leebob.69]

idk if you mind a suggestion, but I suggest the removal of all pokemon received via trade and gift pokemon, they make it way too easy

[@ProfessionalNon]

@@Leebob.69 true, depends

[@jdasleigh1238]

In the case of gift pokemon, 1 per team is pretty balanced i think. Tbf, getting like 12 encounters for strong pokemon before gardenia is kinda busted though

[@gaberobison680]

I don’t like those type of rule sets because it takes the game out of the players hands. You could get bad encounters that make it impossible to win without relying on RNG

[@kevinartavia5026]

This game bopped my sh$t several times, cannot imagine doing a nuzlocke.

[@tyronegaming818]

Would love to see a hardcore nuzlocke of radical red hardcore mode

[@lchidan2782]

Moves like counter and mirror coat will always go last regardless of the user's speed

[@barreoblique6380]

you're an insanely good and smart nuzlocke player, love your vids, keep up the good work, you deserve more !

[@jochemvanpamelen4654]

havent even watched a single second and i still know this is going to be an awesome video

[@MonkStarling]

I liked the video as soon as it started because I knew I would enjoy it

[@joshziegler5495]

Awesome video. You can also sweep Roark with just a Geodude. Barring you don't get critted. The nosepass cannot damage you, or status effect you and he does not swap. You just defense curl, rock polish and sweep

[@PM-ty2yr]

Counter has negative prio, thats why Alakazam was slower @45:50

[@dwcd_5341]

This is gonna be amazing renegade platinum is the best gen 4 remake

[@hunarpg]

Best Part = He is World's "Second" Best Nuzlocker

[@unmployedvillager7341]

Nah, that title goes to FlygonHG. Doc is 3rd best nuzlocker tho.

[@vodkabull2924]

Who is the best one😂

[@mattlaney6153]

@@unmployedvillager7341 how is flygon the second?

[@glowstonelovepad9294]

DocZ is the best nuzlocker, he beat Renegade Platinum on first attempt. Pchal took 84 attempts.

[@mattlaney6153]

@@glowstonelovepad9294 whos videos over renegade platinum do you think Doc Z watched for help?

[@boppo16]

Man 17:49 is super funny nowadays because Blastoise is like the meta when it comes to Nuzlocking this game now lmao You can delay Wartortle's evo to like 44 or something to teach it Water spout, which combined w/ Drizzle and choice scarf/specs it one shots like everything

[@tancossin]

bro i came across you like last month and i've been HOOKED on your content since, keep it up man!

[@Cherie_nby]

i love how he never realized that Counter is negative priority

[@0_0-d7e]

2:05 from my experience in sacred gold, the second and third gym are the hardest parts in the game

[@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502]

Seconded. I got absurdly good RNG against bugsy, so got passed him with just one death, but I still have no clue how I managed to survive Whitney in that game.

[@Pokephosgene]

I'm honestly surprised that the hack contained a new type, or introduced concepts such as variable E4 teams.

[@yazanraouf9604]

The fact that you name your Pokémon after careers is so funny I love it

[@TheBBCSlurpee]

For real shit is hilarious

[@ItsFireTiger]

The fact that Scizor didn't have focus sash counter, or sturdy counter

[@asgradia9093]

Damn...i wiped to Aaron a few times already and this guy just wings it :D

[@paulodroopy9488]

Pchal bans setup moves for a reason. They're so broken that any hardcore nuzlocke could become that easy. (Except for EK 'cause that game is a beast.)

[@johannesreus5154]

Currently playing this game with a friend of mine as a soullink without EVs. We're on attempt 16 and it's really hard but oh my god is it fun

[@OneOfFourLucasMains]

Why is no one talking about the fact that CYRUS HAD 8 POKEMON?!

[@ultm8gamer326]

16:07 ‘Surfer user Surf’ What gave you that idea, genius?

[@ultm8gamer326]

Oh yeah, and again at 27:18

[@VTPooks]

Best Quote in the video I have no faith in you Takes half health from +3 Drapion

[@kobainreid85]

the aaron fight isnt a loss depending on your rules bc you dont actually blackout if you lose to him

[@ItsFireTiger]

But if all your Mons are dead, then it doesn't matter, a loss is a loss and gotta start over

[@kobainreid85]

@@ItsFireTiger depends on your rules. everyone has different nuzlocke and hardcore nuzlocke rules. most common is only a loss when you see the screen that says "you whited out"

[@ItsFireTiger]

@@kobainreid85 But your Pokemon are still fainted so then you'd have to catch another Mon then box all fainted ones

[@tripleaxelblaze]

me: having a bad day Sees DocZ uploaded Day even worse :)

[@wedding2710]

lmao

[@jacobdennis3020]

yes separate video for other boss fights, cant get enough nuzlocke content!!!

[@Moxtrots]

My boy getting sponsored! Let’s go!

[@davex7755]

docz: I'm not going to plan anymore literally docz the next fight: everything is going according to plan

[@burncy_]

“you know what I don’t care” after pelliper died to a wrongful stone edge was actually hilarious

[@NerdMania2000]

I didn’t even know alakazam could learn counter XD

[@jasper_freeze]

take a shot every time a raid shadow legends ad plays

[@francisbarriga8459]

ngl that ad transition got me

[@kloudydayze]

The read on that alakazam was insane

[@CyanFeild]

That transition into the ad, got me lol very cute

[@EruptedCamerupt]

Substitute is so busted in this game

[@whoszmnwho]

never thought i’d be able to look in Doc Z’s box

[@harshitaggarwal7809]

I love your videos and think your channel is very underrated. Love from India

[@Keshav-o3g]

A-aron's dustox can be cheesed easily with substitute and setup

[@SkillOPill]

Counter makes you go last, that's why Alakazam was so slow

[@danielendless]

My dude covered himself in grease and slid smoothly into that ad.

[@zander3902]

If I lose a couple more I might do what you did and take every gift mon.

[@UnsaltyPaprika]

Dang, that smooth transition

[@llamason7044]

I'm currently working on this one at the moment

[@danielendless]

I swear these ROM hacks are 10x better than official remakes

[@ryanjennings6385]

Not the first time I’ve rewatched any of your content. PC needs to react to you my guy!

[@grundgutigertv6170]

I'm so happy you returned to the narrated format. Thanks!

[@bape7372]

Damn you made this look so much easier than flygonhg 😂😂

[@donkkut5003]

this is why i personally ban moves that raise broken stats like attack or evasion from my runs

[@EruptedCamerupt]

This run hack was my first challenge run even though right now definitely not the hardest hack but man was it fun

[@hiro702]

I’ve never played fan games or nuzlock but, I agree with your decision to not plan all the upcoming battles. Preparedness is good but specifically planning for the battles seems boring and easy. Like playing on switch mode lol it takes away from challenge and battle tactics

[@saleen12]

I know not everyone would, but I'd love to see a full nuzlocke from start to finish. Grinding and all. Do you literally train everyone, or do you rare candy them up? The process must take forever when you lose mons or switch up teams

[@saleen12]

Even better. A video on how you do nuzlockes, like training, evs and move sets would be amazing

[@Karan-nu5li]

if you're thinking of hard rom hacks for nuzlocke, you could try radical red, but I think even you would cry after its hardcore mode

[@MJ-xk1zx]

Released less than a week after smallant finished his ludlocke

[@joaobrito2653]

Alakazam wasn’t slow, counter just has negative priority

[@stanacc6999]

Ahhhh surfshark... The most powerful fully evolved pokemon

[@DefianceGJ]

*SPOILER ALERT* Not done watching but oh my god that pelipper loss is devastating

[@reikong6042]

congrats on 20k!!

[@ilovepizza38]

Wait…. Wake was difficult? I blew through his entire team each time I replayed DPP lol he was probably the the easiest gym battle for me

[@TheBBCSlurpee]

Oh my bad I just got to the part where he said wake was hard in the regular game

[@adeyemirobinson4093]

Surfshark is so clutch for nuzlockes

[@wally5416]

Well thanks for the anxiety rollercoaster Ps love your vids

[@futurecallup637]

Let's see all the extra fights!

[@eternity_shiro]

man calls staryu starmie. good video btw

[@cynicalthomas3206]

clean ad transition

[@tanglelover]

I'm so hype for this run. Good luck!

[@ItsFireTiger]

lol, counter is a revenge move like payback or mirror coat or revenge

[@xWhiteSouI]

Good suff! I'd love to see additional fights pt. 2 :)

[@shroul2082]

Honestly I watched it on stream but feel good to see you also on video good job keep it up !!!

[@seventhparrot9640]

You shouldn't look up the battles and mons beforehand, that makes it so easy

[@onehitkill98]

Been asking for this! Love it!

[@mag2006-n9x]

Congrats on the 20K milestone. Keep up the good work

[@kingcutha1448]

Glad to see another upload I missed the vids

[@Sunny70-1]

I just started the game myself and its so nice that there are no hms needed (well ofc except surf and waterfall)

[@spider-man9610]

Congratulations🥳

[@martinus_mars]

Wait...Cynthia has many teams? I thought the game would just give her a buffed version of her old team...and that is what i faced....

[@joviefernandez6141]

The only reason renegade platinum is a bit easy is because of solaceon town's day care

[@CAAStudios]

Why not use Thunder for Crasher Wake? Thunder has 100 accuracy in the rain, so you should be on a 1 way ticket to winning, bar Quagsire. Since rotom was dead, build a speedy magneton just for the fight, if thats possible?

[@DocZ]

I'd just die to swift swim stab surf

[@noahsimmering5975]

I'd love to see some of the other battles from this run!

[@baron3904]

Maybe this rule is too punishing but I'm only allowing a choice of one gift mon per area, the rest have to be released

[@yurr1ka]

YES WE DID IT BOYS, WE GOT THE LEGEND TO 20K SUBS, LET'S GO

[@jckmohr5912]

How'd he get both porygon and togekiss? Did he catch a togepi in trophy garden? I always have to choose between them in Eterna.

[@angelicaph483]

In renegade platinum, in the trainer's school (jubilife city) theres a person who give you a egg, and theres a chance that you can hatch a togepi from it (along the other baby pokemon like elekid, riolu, budew, magby, happiny, etc)

[@stevelp3631]

Dope transition to the sponsor 😂