Dodging Disbandment and Other Extreme Sports: A History of Dreamcatcher

[@merafromyoutube]

UPDATE: On April 20, 2022, Dreamcatcher received their first music show win on Show Champion for their single “Maison.” This video is outdated. As disclaimed at the beginning, this is a video essay, not a textbook. It’s based on my own speculation and exploration of the subject, and there’s more than one perspective. Subtitles: Spanish, French, and Polish subs were uploaded by community members. Thank you for your translation! If you send me your names I will update the pin and the description. Edit: Also, got my timeline confused, July 2015 was GFriend’s comeback (Me Gustas Tu) not their debut. Me Gustas Tu is what overshadowed Love Shake. Whoops.

[@isaacblm3343]

OMG you are amazing 😍😍😍

[@NinjaKittkatt]

Also, along with Oh My Girl, Dreamcatcher is frequently named as a favorite from other idols (especially idols from popular groups) so I think their ability to survive in an industry "allegedly" trying to stifle their success is because they're well supported by their idol peers.

[@whitemint9027]

Will wait for it! Also please mention Handong going on QCYN2 - she really needs support!

[@kaedeharakazuha3643]

#StanDreamcatcher

[@leah-is3ci]

What is ur intro song?

[@ClaimhSolaris]

Minx Dami: oppa sarranghae~ Dreamcatcher Dami: *oppa I will beat you with a stick*

[@EverythingxYourexNot]

OMG 😂😂😂😂😂

[@rafaelasilva6615]

a glow up™

[@_ViTU]

I think it's more like Dreamcatcher Dami: I am your oppa now

[@cigimon4]

@@_ViTU "I'm the new oppa now after I beat up the previous one"

[@arastumanandhar]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ashgarden5863]

Wait... that sudden transition from a cutesy girl group to an almost horror-themed group just slapped me in the face.

[@aislin2989]

They tend to do that a lot lol

[@mightyobserver12]

Thats how u level up

[@jellifygirl]

@@plasmakitten4261 Even if it WAS really breakout popular, I got so uncomfortable with the creepy (not in the good way) MV for Love Shake. I love all the members but there's no way I could stream an MV that zooms in on their bodies like that and does weird feet shots while simultaneously infantilising them tbh

[@edvaedan9161]

They are still slapping people. I don’t think they have released a bad song and have too many great ones to count.

[@viceursa]

I shit you not, I SCREAMED 😂😂😂

[@bambarby]

During various interviews, when Dreamcatcher was asked what their goals would be for that year, they always included "getting first win" in their answers. They'd been answering like this since 2014. But ever since Deja Vu, they stopped saying that completely; and changed the answer to "getting more fans." Dreamcatcher knew they got fucked over, and I'm glad they moved on. I still want them to win soon, but I don't want it to be at The Show.

[@bambarby]

@Sweet potato You're right. They were pretty nice to DC this comeback. Last comeback was another story.

[@ilovedreamcatcher1337]

@@bambarby makes me wonder if it's someone else's fault why DC didn't win....

[@ilovedreamcatcher1337]

@Sweet potato you're free to believe whatever you want, just like we are.

[@erwatier665]

@Sweet potato if a group promote a bside it means that the company pay more to the show for more screentime. Its not that 'the show is nice to dc because they let them promote bside' (If im not wrong) Also stop calling people delusional. We are free to believe what we believe

[@melonpeach9723]

Sweet potato it was rigged you literal dumbass, did you pay no attention??

[@sascha9439]

their discography is literally flawless how did they get 0 points for expert opinion tf

[@sooyoungfanclub]

shady mfers

[@internetjesus]

SBS Experts are used to EDM, Pop and Electronica. They are scared of different genres. It's a narrow-minded mindset, but Dreamcatcher just keeps getting more and more popular despite the industry's reluctance to expand out of the circle of genres the industry's been spiraling in for quite sometime now.

[@kimeki95]

Makes me wonder if they're legit 'expert'

[@sammysiddhi3874]

Of course the show sucks

[@labelle1301]

because the experts are men and men are weak

[@seikatsu3846]

5:52 Another interesting fact is that January 13th, 2017 was Friday. Friday the 13th is considered a fearful day in western superstition. Dreamcatcher debuting on that day with their horror concept was a brilliant idea.

[@nerasomnia]

It could have also lead to the crazy events that almost spelled “disbandment” if you believe in those superstitions 🙃

[@veeinh]

BrILliAnT

[@myyour360]

@@veeinh BILAT?

[@Jeeblets]

Lmao that means "a female's private part"

[@kikolee544]

your comment has 1.3 likes... Satan is this you?

[@sarahfeng]

I ACTUALLY SHOUTED "GODDAMMIT BTS" AT THE SCREEN AT 18:07 as if i didn't wake up at 4 am the day the mv dropped and stream fake love for a week straight lmao

[@FunSoSoToTo]

You made me laugh 🤣🤣🤣😂😂

[@prankalll8219]

OMG SAME MY INSOMNIA AND ARMY HEART FELT SO BETRAYED lmao

[@aikilai245]

😂😂😂 I'm new to the fandom but same! I love fake love but but dreamcatcher 🥺

[@beingamultifandomstanisnteasy]

If that ain't me! when fake love came on the screen i legit cried 😂

[@charkjake934]

I’m not a army but when I saw that I jokingly thought and bts just had to go and ruin everything

[@1haniestan278]

Fact: Dreamcatcher is unable to release a bad track.

[@ad_kk16]

This is still true

[@khagembaningthoujam307]

Minx though 😁

[@abcdef-ej9qb]

@@khagembaningthoujam307 Minx songs slap

[@rlawpzh]

*exactly. my favorite B-side from them is still July 7th*

[@ojaspadekar659]

FACCS

[@antoniastan9980]

Dreamcatcher 🤝 Loona : having their comeback sabotaged for being an unconventional group.

[@erwatier665]

Loona is an unconventional group?

[@melonpeach9723]

Erwati Er their their music isn’t very unconventional but their group as a whole is. with the debut project, the lore, the fans, etc.

[@melonpeach9723]

LemonBoba Tea poor Butterfly, she was a queen. 💔

[@JK1YA]

Factsss

[@guiafb99]

@@erwatier665 they are, just listen to songs like loonatic, vivid, new, love4eva, eclipse, let me in, colors, etc. and you'll know why

[@lara7214]

what i love about this is that the company doesn't give up on them. they took a whole risk and redebuted them and took the risk of a new and unique concept which isn't common in kpop. dreamcatcher and their company are amazing & so hardworking. i really hope dreamcatcher get their first win soon bc they deserve it so fucking much

[@Eiterlude]

This is what happens when a company don’t give up on their idols. (Cough cough CLC)

[@lara7214]

@@Eiterlude sorry what's clc got to do w this?? genuine question btw!!

[@Eiterlude]

@@lara7214 ah in Mera’s video about CLC she talked about how CLC was being ignored on favor of Pentagon and Gidle

[@lara7214]

@@Eiterlude ooh okay thank you!! i've heard a bit about that,, it makes me sad bc i recently started stanning clc bc of helicopter and they seem so talented

[@mushroomexpress3049]

The company are like family,the ceo said, he will sell cucumber for the girls if dc failed. The ceo is like father to them tbh, there are also no diet rules and they give the girls creativity freedom

[@seven7th___nightmare776]

All i want for DreamCatcher is they finally crying because of winning trophy in their hand.

[@xMortalBlade]

next comeback is possible because this comeback is close to impossible to get a 1st win with all the big names promoting this month no matter how good the song is

[@seven7th___nightmare776]

@@xMortalBlade Thats what i heard since 2 years ago. "They will win next comeback" and as a bigger the chance they can win, theres always something that stopping them from the trophy. They might dodged the bullet but it seems theres a wall that always in their way. Or you can say a wall were located purposely in their path for a win trophy. Its not like im being less positive, its just i didnt put a high hope. But for me whats matter the most is their sales increasing everytime passing their previous one. Thats way more important

[@xMortalBlade]

@@seven7th___nightmare776 I wouldn't say it was done purposely but rather the company is poor at deciding the comeback dates Because this will be the second time that DC and bts schedule will be overlapped

[@seven7th___nightmare776]

@@xMortalBlade tho i can agree with partly that company play a role in this. But the thing is they cant wait forever for a good timing. Every month there will always be one or two, maybe more groups who can rack the 1st place. This company still relatively small plus every single detail of preparation probably sails few months earlier. Any delayed of process would cost them Poor decision probably half of the factor, luck is one of the other factor. Its just happen that this two factor.. In this case i would say its probably just unfortunate and unavoidable

[@xMortalBlade]

@@seven7th___nightmare776 the first thing they could have done is by delaying it by a month knowing that bts has a comeback because it's pretty much a death sentence if you want a win

[@xristina3656]

We were robbed from two wins, the show can rot in hell

[@xMortalBlade]

the everglow win i can understand but if you're talking about bts then sorry but it would have been impossible to get a win against bts

[@xristina3656]

@@xMortalBlade i have no idea what you are talking about i meant another one from again the show but they didnt anounce a winner that day FOR SOME REASON I WONDER WHY

[@user-of9su1ou2i]

Yeah it was the show the week after the problem with everglow. The show was cancelled for no apparent reason and no voting happened. As for you and I promotions I think that week we had gotten close as well but g-idle got their very first win fresh from their debut

[@humanflavouredhuman4573]

@@xMortalBlade wat do u mean bts?

[@justonemoreep]

@@xMortalBlade wrong assumptions there tho.

[@estellamatutinam]

I'm not their fan, but something that made me very angry was the fact that they were being treated as rookies and were on a rookie segment with everglow in 2019. That was plain disrespectful

[@cringepillow]

Wow really? Thats so disrespectful

[@Androids23]

Plus 5 of the members are in the kpop industry for 7years now, 7 YEARS, and some people still call them rookies or 4th gen

[@jadeshepherd8627]

Oh my goddd yes that pissed me off

[@felixvelariusbos]

"Kpop's Leonardo DiCaprio" You know what, that's probably the best description you can have. It's not as if they are unpopular or untalented. They just can't get an award to save their lives.

[@yulin.n]

Hahaha

[@brainswag]

Great analogy really.

[@ELmayberry]

ouch

[@jennifermonika4431]

Insomnia don’t forget vote for dreamcatcher in starplay Live voting is 6:05 -7:05 pm(kst) today (1 St september)! 3 ticket in 1 account Be careful+make sure to vote for the right group as starplay glitches+vote early as starplay glitches+force close app after finish voting as starplay glitches‬

[@kimchiquesadilla]

Or kpop Arnold Sommerfeld, who got 82 nominations to the Nobe Prize, but never got one

[@ottosolano271]

The narrator: "everything is ALLEGED, I encourage you to do your own research..." Me: "Girl I ain't doing no research, I'll believe whatever you say"

[@kirbytrax8326]

Vortex She kind of has to say alleged to make sure she doesn’t get dragged by possible Everglow crazy fans or Dreamcatcher antis. Even if it’s clear they were robbed of a win...

[@aikilai245]

Sameeee I'm like sounds legit I'll believe you

[@thek-nerd3143]

Kirbytrax Yep just liek when she said to not send any hate to anybody involved. She’s trying her best to prevent fan wars

[@jennifermonika4431]

Insomnia don’t forget vote for dreamcatcher in starplay Live voting is 6:05 -7:05 pm(kst) today (1 St september)! 3 ticket in 1 account Be careful+make sure to vote for the right group as starplay glitches+vote early as starplay glitches+force close app after finish voting as starplay glitches‬

[@Sssnnakepit]

Jennifer Monika robbed again sigh

[@hlly20]

REASON WHY WE SHOULD ALL BE GLAD THAT DC IS UNDER HF ENT: I've seen companies debut groups, give them 2-3 comebacks. If it doesn't work out as expected, they just give the group an indefinite hiatus or disbandment itself. I've been a fan of different underrated groups for long so I know. Dreamcatcher is the FIRST underrated group that I've stayed with for so long because they're actually doing pretty well. HF knows what it's doing in building a larger and stronger fanbase than finding that one slip thru to become a "one hit wonder" Looking at Momoland now (no offense), DC are in better standing I can say.

[@Ijo3]

dc just overshadowed by big company well the good thing to be not too famous is we got many content and they can go anywhere without scare of paparazzi

[@hlly20]

@@Ijo3 it's good that they will get famous but through the stategy of slowly but surely. HF is doing great at managing DC but not sure about D1CE. D1CE is having a comeback this June which is said to be an emotional ballad and I'm not sure if that's really a good move for a comeback, considering the big groups coming back that month (Twice, BP, TXT, etc.) and a ballad being less noticed tbh.

[@jime_dreamcatcher8414]

@@hlly20 I think HF with D1CE wants to attract Korean fans first bc some of their members participated in popular shows in Korea, build at least a small local fan base and then maybe try to attract ifans. But June is really a bad month for small groups.

[@hlly20]

@@jime_dreamcatcher8414 that's a good strategy but an emotional ballad as a comeback concept? hmm... and you're right, June's another month of oversaturation in kpop, but the upside of it is that more people have their eyes on June, so more people will be able to see comebacks, stumbling upon nugu groups more often.

[@shalomswife]

I really liked D1CE's comeback, more than Wake Up. Though I wouldn't mind them also slipping into a horror concept like Dreamcatcher or become a soft group, I'll support them either way. Not a korean netizen though, so I can't judge

[@tsunami3963]

Déjà Vu era was really frustrating. From the weird calculations the first week, second week without announcing winner (when they still had a chance to win), then third week where their chances have decreased a lot, and forth week which I didn't even watch cause I was fed up of all this stuff

[@somniarmy.]

same frustrating is the perfect word

[@kaedeharakazuha3643]

I know right, I was like “ITS TIME, ITS TIME!!”

[@EverythingxYourexNot]

They didn't promote into (EDIT: this is wrong : 3rd and) 4th week, they went on tour :( that's why insomnia poured all our energy into week 1, we dominated votes, and then were crushed... We were gearing up for week 2, but then there were no. freaking. votes. Or even a correction! And after that, DC was on tour 😭

[@sherwinalcantara4918]

@@kaedeharakazuha3643 same but SBS keeps their shitty agenda..

[@tsunami3963]

@@EverythingxYourexNot really? I swear I saw them the third week on the show, that they weren't even nominated but were in the back

[@kittiepride190]

happyface entertainment sounds like an amazing company that actually cares about their idols and pushes them through like most companies wouldve given up on minx but they rebranded and kept trying to push the girls towards sucess and even when people got antsy about a debut they still didnt give up

[@nerasomnia]

Maybe not amazing considering how Dreamcatcher’s comebacks always end up happening at the worst time (basically constantly competing against super groups), but they are definitely good. Their CEO had and still has a lot of faith in Dreamcatcher considering the sheer amount of risks he took to make them successful. I don’t blame him though when he has a group whose vocal talent is among the top in the industry.

[@nerasomnia]

ZoKi In that sense, yeah, but it makes it damn hard to get Dreamcatcher a first win.

[@AS-db6ob]

Their CEO once said he'd open a kimchi shop for them if their redebut was unsuccessful 😂

[@MuhammadRaihan-xr6lx]

Also even though happyface is not a big company in the slightest, they still managed to pull enough resources to make a subsidiary label which focuses solely on managing dreamcatcher

[@m.leonsterling4334]

I can like any group that catches my eye, but I make it a point to only stan/support groups with decent/good companies. Loona, Dreamcatcher, Dreamnote - their companies may not be perfect, but they're better than most. I specifically stopped supporting Blackpink because YG sucks in many ways and wastes their talent. (As in, I'll still listen to their music, but won't go out of my way to stream, buy albums, etc.)

[@nerasomnia]

In part 2 we have: Handong leaving for China in August of 2019 to go on a Chinese survival show. Her schedule conflicts prevented her participation in Dreamcatcher’s Scream comeback. When the survival show finally ended, Handong was still unable to go back to Korea. Why? Because a global pandemic originating from Handong’s hometown, Wuhan, caused the world to enter quarantine. Handong’s Wuhan passport prevented her from returning because of Korea’s travel ban. Although the travel ban was lifted on the 10th of August, Handong was unable to film or record for the album coming out on the 17th of August. Even if she came back on the 10th, she’ll still have to quarantine for at least 14 days. This means Handong will only be able to participate in the last leg of promotions at best. Oh, and we still haven’t gotten a first win. Dreamcatcher really have the absolute worst luck.

[@aislin2989]

And BTS is apparently coming back... as is SuperM...

[@88Manel88]

Tbh if they had the absolute worst luck, they wouldn't be here anymore. 3 years and still going strong is not a sign of bad luck to me, yes some unfortunate things have happened but their fanbase keeps growing along with their sales

[@hann1329]

update: handong is back, dreamcatcher will appear in kcon, they will have another online concert, handong will release a solo song (kinda like paradise by siyeon) and dreamcatcher will have a comeback in january

[@SuaBitSiyeonsLip]

lets also add that the new album lose myself has almost broken or already has sold 95,000+ albums and handong has come back and already released a single :)

[@ncts25thsecretmember62]

And DC got first win finally from odd eye

[@nlzhf4111]

Just because Dreamcatcher from a small company doesn't mean their fans didn't work hard for them. They does, just the industry was corrupted.

[@xMortalBlade]

A certain group experienced the same thing but managed to overcome it so i believe dreamcatcher can also do it (although not at the same level for pretty obvious reasons)

[@dodo-eu6ox]

It’s not corrupted it’s overflowed

[@lastc4ress_622]

BTS came from a small company but look where they are now. I feel like Dreamcatcher will top all the charts soon. Its only a matter of time💜

[@nlzhf4111]

@@lastc4ress_622 Yea. that's true. Even it will be harder for a gg's popularity will be same amount as a bg nowdays, I'm hoping there will be an award and acknowledgement for Dreamcatcher in kpop industry while they stay active.

[@ChoresMishandled]

Is*

[@somniarmy.]

Dreamcatcher actually have it all from vocals, stage presence, dance legends, visuals, rap, lyricists, self composing, variety queens, funny sweet personalities, performers of our generation, love each other and their fans so much, unique concept and genre, everything you can ask for in a gg and more, what's not to like???

[@archvileppv]

We should ask those "experts" who, in their personal opinion, have the right to deprive the participant of 1500 points (still not enough, they drove the poor into the negative) when the score goes to units))

[@melonpeach9723]

archvileppv can someone explain how the negative point thing worked? They had 1850?

[@hefeibao]

A larger song base, and some more variety in their genre.

[@hefeibao]

@@plasmakitten4261 I listen to their discography near daily while I work. I like what they create, my comment is that if they explored other genres they may appear to a larger audience.

[@aha9229]

They give JiU a sword for déjà vu, then give a big ass sword for SuA in scream. Are they gonna give Siyeon a sword next? lol (if you notice; jiu, sua. oldest, second oldest.)

[@AD-ov5rt]

'Sup, it's someone from the future, they gave Yoohyeon a big ass bow.

[@sol-nr4iu]

@@AD-ov5rt indeed

[@somethingiwouldsay9782]

They give it to gahyeon for the boca dance k-zombie version lol

[@alenicole3358]

They gave dami a stick

[@ren4prez]

they gave insomnias a giant lightstick 💀

[@pritikasagar6278]

I SCREAMED WHEN I SAW THIS TITLE! FINALLY WE HAVE INTELLECTUALS WHO I CAN TRUST TO MAKE NON-JUDJEMENTAL OPINIONS DISCUSSING MY FAVS. Y'ALL PLS STAN DREAM CATCHER THEY'RE THE BEST CRACKHEADS :((

[@LpsCupcakekawaiiLover]

YES STAN DREAMCATCHER (r u Indian btw?)

[@pritikasagar6278]

@@LpsCupcakekawaiiLover yess but I live in dubai lol wbu?

[@pritikasagar6278]

@Nightcore Sarina fax

[@LpsCupcakekawaiiLover]

@@pritikasagar6278 im Indian too lol I live in India

[@yuni_strawberi]

Pritika Sagar I agree, they’re my ults

[@tardisandcinnamon]

As someone who really loves Dreamcatcher, this just reignited my fury at The Show.

[@LizzardLovely]

The fact that I now know that it’s run by SBS definitely makes sense since that company somehow always causes a problem *cough cough Wendy cough cough*

[@sherwinalcantara4918]

I'm really mad when DC's didn't get their first win because of the shitty experts score and now SBS really ruined their image to me when they hurt Wendy cause of them shitty award show

[@arimahishhhhhhhhh7921]

@@sherwinalcantara4918 exactly, their award shows are trash. They are doing the same thing to loona and not giving them a first win

[@sherwinalcantara4918]

@@arimahishhhhhhhhh7921 I don't think Loona will win in The Show even next week other than Gfriend they competing with the experts favorite Ehem Everglow

[@psychosoty8798]

and just sbs in general!

[@purpleteardropss]

I'M FROM THE FUTURE: MAISON GAVE THEM 2 WINS IN 6 DAYS. 2022 IS THEIR YEAR

[@algordo7]

I came from further future and they win another 2 win 😂😂

[@leavehyeinalone]

With BONVOYAGE (always the french title track)

[@きのこ320]

🫶🏽

[@cuckoophendula8211]

@@leavehyeinaloneMAISON and BONVOYAGE are both French based titles huh? Deja Vu happens to be a French expression too so.....

[@MayerliEAN]

Important fact: 2018. Dreamcatcher made their first Latin American tour being the first GIRL GROUP in most of these countries and the first Kpop group ever in Panama.

[@lauraalderete6483]

Eso no lo sabía :O

[@emitheorbit1118]

I barely knew that.. :O :0

[@lucia5227]

Ohhh no sabía Ojalá haberlas conocido en ese entonces

[@hann1329]

they are the first girl group to do an Europe tour alone and the only girlgroup to do it twice

[@ines4928]

Vinieron a Panamá y nunca me enteré 💀

[@adrianlau7249]

The quality of this video left me genuinely shook?? Like this seriously is so professional I was just expecting a robot voice with videos of them dancing but the script, the editing, the voice??? *IMPECCABLE.*

[@sthirukk]

Mera is like the fine wine of k-pop youtubers and that's a fact

[@CosmicParkingLot]

Videos essays on the level of Lindsay Ellis or Hbomberguy but for K-pop. Exactly what I've been looking for 😁

[@remiiniscent4]

speaking of which i'm so sick of those text to speech voices, especially uk daniel, meme videos with uk daniel are straight up cringe now

[@Bella-ue3cw]

Along with "internetsnathan" and "angelina" they are all definitely high quality in videos

[@djbreadx]

thats mera for ya

[@maddieraggie1559]

i’m sorry but i wheezed when fake love started playing, as bts being my ult boy group and dreamcatcher being my ult girl group, i died.

[@sanchayitachattopadhyay4674]

Same.....

[@eye63]

So technically they got their first win technically

[@gmznlr]

Queen i hope the group also knows this

[@rocklapinytb]

yes and dreamcatcher knows that

[@gmznlr]

I’m not racist but, /how can you tell ?

[@memeking8734]

first win: ISAC 2018 relay gold

[@nezgishnene2843]

•niler türkcan EVERGLOW kazandI zaman da yuzulerine baksan, guriyorsun çok awkward bakiyorlar (sorry I’m Turkish but not that good at Turkish) •kijk maar naar hun gezicht als EVERGLOW wint, ze kijken heel ongemakkelijk omdat ze bijna zeker waren dat hun zouden winnen! Toen kwamen ze er achter dat hun eigenlijk zouden moeten winnen! •Just look at their face when EVERGLOW wins, they look awkward because they really thought that they would win and then they realised, they would actually win and something happened! BUT MAYBE THEY JUST FELT DISAPPOINTED IDK

[@QueenCard03]

Honestly dreamcatchers sound was definetly needed in the korean entertainment scene, theres not that many groups I've heard that are like this

[@hannah-we3ws]

oo someone recommend me more songs or tracks like dreamcatcher

[@hannah-we3ws]

@Local Clown thank u

[@flamingo__]

@Local Clowna but they're really underappreciated and it makes me sad the korea is sleeping on them

[@Andrei-zy3on]

@@hannah-we3ws HI IM LATE but there’s a newly debuted gg, they’re called dreamnote. They have a song called ghost. Aside from that, there’s a Japanese gg/duo called baby metal :D

[@gaeric5088]

@@Andrei-zy3on Omg I also know Dreamnote and I love their "Ghost" song hehe

[@lynlvooid]

DC is actually doing so well in the gaming community. one of them being osu! (usually, korean songs are looked down on in the game) and they tolerate DC so much that their beatmaps have been played for millions! and king's raid, as you all may know, DC had received a lot of fans from it. i've also seen a twitch streamer playing DC and some of his fans got into it as well. if DC promotes more games, they might skyrocket.

[@CJ-83]

yeah but that will hard base to keep going, but I hope this year it will be slowly changing to a more positive light

[@moonbinisaghostiemermaidpr4950]

I hope they try for an anime opening as well

[@julesplanas7448]

@@moonbinisaghostiemermaidpr4950 surprise, we now have eclipse

[@sugarqcoat]

i mean, it still doesn't bring any sales; they are doing poorly in japan thanks to the comparisons to Roselia; and i doubt their company cares enough about any other countries

[@appletart7262]

@@sugarqcoat What is Roselia?

[@Kinben69]

I feel like Dreamcatcher is against the kpop industry. A David vs Goliath that can actually change the industry forever if they succeed.

[@achmadk568]

YESS I THINK THE SAME..

[@sophiaaretuza]

I want more groups like dc. I'm not actually a kpop fan and they are the first group to really stick with me

[@Starop3]

tbh i cried when the whole thing with the show happened like the girls are working so dang hard to get their first win but they keep getting robbed...

[@yuukinol.6091]

That day the heart of all Somnias broke in one way or another, I was sad for days and I also cried because it is unfair that the industry puts obstacles to the success of our girls but this time we will get them that win(they won't be able to robbed us again)so we will cry because of happiness...

[@winarlee5851]

Wtf. The point was "0"😨😦😬 Imposible.

[@jennifermonika4431]

Insomnia don’t forget vote for dreamcatcher in starplay Live voting is 6:05 -7:05 pm(kst) today (1 St september)! 3 ticket in 1 account Be careful+make sure to vote for the right group as starplay glitches+vote early as starplay glitches+force close app after finish voting as starplay glitches‬

[@rmickb2d1nss96]

You hear about these companies treating their groups badly and all that but I'm gonna give credit to Happyface for not only sticking with the girls but making the 200 IQ decision to walk away from Mixnine (we all know how that turned out) and solidify their fanbase. It would have been a temptation to stick with it because of the YG brand name thats for sure.

[@Saicofake]

Anyone felt it was a blessing in disguise that Minx disbanded? It gave them an opportunity to revamp themselves and discover their own identity. I honestly felt Minx was too 'generic'. DC however has a different and unique identity, which should have allowed them to stand out but were constantly bogged by the media. I definitely would have not known about them if they have stayed with Minx. EDIT: That expert poll seriously triggered me. Such an unfair system.

[@notpog450]

Vortex yepp^^^ i totally agree. if they were minx and somehow got successful, i still never would've given them a chance honestly, because that style of music just isn't my cup of tea. i would admit they have the vocals and talent, but they wouldn't stand out (and kinda didn't like how they all forced their voice to be higher and "cuter," and wouldn't have ever known about them, especially gahyeon and handong.), they would just be that generic kpop girl group you see every music video. minx's disbandment really is a blessing in disguise in my opinion

[@0nikolaigogol0]

I would never stanned Minx, as an once(Twice had a cute concept, but the songs are meaningful and they weren't too cute) myself, they were too cute for my music taste Edit: Twice didn't disbanded, but they have a more mature concept

[@Nejiglenna]

It`s funny. Because the two that are the most happy about it is Dami and Siyeon :D I love it too, obviously. The redebut was the best thing that happened.

[@kosaken1207]

U summarized it too well. Dreamcatcher is truly an unkillable group. No matter how much the industry tries to shut them down, they comeback, stronger, and sharper

[@bulanb.6921]

i got goosebumps reading this

[@sosom5307]

That is the most thing how made me their fan!! They never gave up and always come back harder

[@cerisedaemon]

To this day I remain freaking disgusted at The Show for the lack of response to the miscalculations of points, just shows how they don't give a flying crap about the groups and fandoms, they just care about the companies that are paying them more. Fortunately I'm seeing more and more support towards Dreamcatcher, I can see our fandom growing, so here's praying that in 2020 we can finally get that first win they deserve so much.

[@moonbinisaghostiemermaidpr4950]

they wait till they become successful and try to manipulate them into using their platform. same stuff did happen to bts and that's why every single show is posted on their own servers and they rarely go onto any Korean media. its gonna be the same for dreamcatcher too.

[@notpog450]

istg if one day dreamcatcher gets an award or win from The Show, i wish they could just straight up say no to it. like they have no reason to accept anything from that shithole for the fact that they deliberately took away their first win, passive aggressively mocked them, and if they were to try and invite dreamcatcher to their shows just because they're more popular now is straight up disgusting. but that's just me being mad even after a year has passed since their first win was stolen 😔

[@lostkpopfan3137]

Welp- the fact it’s happened again for odd eye- BUT honestly what’s worse is that Oneus’s points were also changed. It’s official :), The Show really doesn’t want DC to win. Edit: not to mention the fact that The Show was cancelled for the first promotions for Boca AND that was when we had a really good chance of getting a first win.

[@yuichoi9763]

@@notpog450 omo that would be epic. also is The Show the one that made the poster w horrible editing in Deja Vu era?

[@notpog450]

@@yuichoi9763 yeah. it was just disgusting

[@Jugglebals]

Dreamcatcher not being big is a joke and thats on a cap but oh well

[@kokolawson4794]

ya dreamcather is among the top 25 girl groups

[@Jugglebals]

@@kokolawson4794 Idk if u are agreeing but i mean like BLACKPINK big

[@nerasomnia]

Chikopanese Army Maybe not Blackpink or Twice big, but I’m hoping they can join the top 5 of girl groups.

[@Jugglebals]

@@nerasomnia Im sorry i dont think you understood. I meant l should rephrase, Dreamcatcher not getting the amount of recognition they deserve is a joke

[@nerasomnia]

Chikopanese Army I wasn’t disagreeing with you about wanting them to be big. I actually think they deserve to be right there alongside Twice and Blackpink, but I personally doubt InSomnia will actually grow to that size considering how big those fanbases are. It’s not like rock appeals to everyone either. They deserve SO much more notoriety. Also: do you watch Jojo Spotlight too? I noticed your user said “Chikopanese”, which is kind of an inside joke among the Jo Hoes.

[@KT-lt4fy]

I think Dreamcatcher and Loona are the most narratively interesting gg right now lol. EDIT: We got our first win! Thank you Insomnias helping us vote and stream. We'll be there cheering/helping for your first win!

[@lpscrazypaws]

I agree. This is one of the reasons Loona are my first tier ults and Dreamcatcher are my second tier ults.

[@jhiaka9888]

@Katie both my ults

[@myprisonisshame3788]

You can't help but notice the massive amount of Insomnia Orbits out there... myself included!

[@eelissuh_]

I agree!! I'd add WJSN to this too ;o;

[@tokotsukishima7]

I think it's because of the LGBT+ kpop fans. Both groups have gorgeous girls and oh look at that I'm gay.

[@Abigail-nt5eb]

Everyone tryna sabotage happy face , a company that actually care about their idols

[@psychosoty8798]

First the Dreamcatcher robbed win, and now the Wendy injury...I hate SBS

[@ReptilianTeaDrinker]

Same. Fuck SBS.

[@shi9705]

I swear Wendy didn't deserve this. Burn SBS

[@watashi_no_proxy]

Im sorry can someone enlighten me about wendy?

[@shi9705]

@@watashi_no_proxy Wendy fell off a stage that was like higher than two meters and she got injured. She was at the hospital for some months and she couldn't eat solid food but she got discharged and she can eat normally again. I don't have many details so if you want to know more I suggest you to read this: www.allkpop.com/article/2019/12/dispatch-releases-details-of-wendys-accident

[@watashi_no_proxy]

@@shi9705 oh thanks for the response 👍

[@bloddyparkdrog5743]

Not only Dreamcatcher got robbed, but the next week, The Show made (for the first time ever) an entire segment for 1st winners, after Dreamcatcher performance.

[@TheCatOfficiel]

The NERVE

[@EverythingxYourexNot]

Oh my GOD, I erased that from my memory, just to be able to cope. THE RAGE IS FUCKING BACK.

[@AS-db6ob]

Money.

[@pearlofivris]

Not only that, in the festival that they were in, usually there would be a winner. But for some reason, there wasn't even a nomination that week. 😔

[@mahdigharsalli5844]

​@@pearlofivris maybe the reason why they treat Dreamcatcher like that because the leader of dal shabet said one time that the ceo of HFE don't like sponsorship and without sponsorship in kpop you can't survive and said also that he is one of few ceo in kpop industery don't do that to protect the girls from many high power people Who control the kpop scene and she said that they even send their numbers to girl group asking for sex and many bad things because the girls are being sponsored by them so they can' talk about that shit, so yeah this is the bad side of kpop and maybe one of the reason why they treat dreamcatcher like that (sorry for my bad english)

[@azarrobanks3418]

The transition from minx to dreamcatcher gave me the shivers Dreamcatcher was the best thing that could happen to minx

[@timingmile7030]

I'm still mad Dreamcatcher did not officially recieve their first win. I would not be suprised if SBS denied DC the win due to some fued with the HappyFace. Big companies always trying to squeeze the small people out 👏🏼

[@aislin2989]

SBS has always been known for - excuse the crude - sucking YG's dck on a regular basis. (Notice how YG artists never go to MCD or MuCore? YG has had beef with MBC before and no YG artists ever show up on MuCore)

[@CacaSetya-y7s]

Big companies can squeeze them, but they cant squeeze Insomnia because we never sleep

[@blasterwar2]

@@aislin2989 Music Core is literally the only music show besides Inkigayo where YG artists promote

[@aislin2989]

@@blasterwar2 Ah damn I meant MuBANK and KBS argh my bad, sorry about that! They'll occasionally appear on Sketchbook, but that's it for anything KBS I think.

[@whocares5863]

oh honey, with my ult groups being dreamcatcher and red velvet, you don't know how much anger i have towards sbs, i hate them with a burning passion.

[@neruneru9713]

"GIVE JIU A BIG F*CKING SWORD." *claps* Great idea.

[@Poofeyfoofey]

I feel bad for not looking into Dreamcatcher sooner. Ever since I’ve followed Kpop, I would hear about them. I shrugged it off as I wanted to know the bigger groups as I didn’t understand and jokes fans threw about. Now that I’m trying to be an InSomnia, I feel bad. They really deserve everything.

[@aislin2989]

you don't have to be here from the beginning, just have to be here until the end - it really doesn't matter when you come in, your enthusiasm is all that's needed!

[@somniarmy.]

As long as ur loyal to them now it doesn't matter

[@burneraccountforthewin]

At least you didn't discover them after disbandedment. I can't tell you how many times I've done that

[@someone-re7sq]

you didn't have to be there from the beginning, you're there now, right?

[@zazou7373]

I stand Everglow and love the girls (they are my babies), but I honestly believe Dreamcatcher should have won. I want my girls to win but I want them to do it thanks to their hard work and FAIRLY.

[@mellamotina5100]

Za Zou ... lmao but I had to laugh at this comment.

[@melonpeach9723]

grandes heartt gurl bye

[@misscrunk]

if you don’t stan dreamcatcher, then raise your standards

[@tongtong1374]

Well said gurl

[@mikegatchalian5734]

Update: On this date 04/20/2022, Dreamcatcher finally win their first music show win on Show Champion. Congrats

[@standreamcatcher2371]

Me: Enters youtube to search for a specific topic Also Me: sees dreamcatcher in one of the thumbnails of mera. Again, Also Me: Screams. Forgets what they came for.

[@thinkabout602]

I'm a fan in the states with a music background and I can tell you DC is one of the most (if not the most) talented, creative and yes beautiful groups out there. Mera, your reporting itself needs an award. Congratulations 🏆

[@lyvre7491]

Mood Stan Dreamcatcher

[@justbiran]

That is exactly what happened to me. I came to watch Ellen.... And I found this.... And had to watch...

[@samliz_vo]

same i was here for yoongi funny moments........i will still watch suga tho

[@NguyenHung-jo9gp]

You predicted Scream

[@sevo9433]

this feels like a documentary and i’m 100% here for it

[@aleenapolanco7828]

I’m sorry Everglow is one of my ults but “Deja vu” was better then “Adios”

[@mushroomexpress3049]

Ladida should have been their first win tbh. Ladida deserve better

[@atinygoldendeer2045]

I don't stan Everglow but I need to bc I've already listen to their full discography and I've fallen in love with it. I can't choose between Adios and Deja vu tbh they're both so freaking good. While I do think Everglow deserves all the wins they've had, so did Dreamcather, and that win for me needed to be theirs (still Adios is a freaking bop). Let's get them the first win with odd eye guys

[@dannavalentina21]

I LOVE Adios but I like Deja vu the modt

[@dannavalentina21]

Most*

[@natashap7591]

Literally I streamed adios HEAVILY but deja vu is just so much better

[@shycherrygirl]

Theres lots of groups with diverse discographies. But as far as I know, Dreamcatcher's is THE MOST DIVERSE discography in kpop right now. They have songs that are rock, pop, edm, ballads, and songs that blends those genres together as well as some others. They also have some of the most powerful choregraphy for modern girl groups and their styling is always AMAZING. They have a different concept than most current groups. The members are all beautiful and fun. I just do not understand why they are not much more popular.

[@archvileppv]

They are the only ones whose music I always consistently return to, after checking out new products from other bands that I also love. But even if I really like it, sooner or later (a week? a month?) this is starting to get boring.. Dreamcatcher - something different, never gets bored

[@katarinedercleric4566]

Jazz too from the new album 😍

[@nocturnal7021]

@@plasmakitten4261 true bts have done literally every concept and genre lol

[@soobindoll9767]

Red Velvet too and F(x)

[@calista5811]

as well as LOONA

[@Suhoshiteru]

adding to their story... Handong didn't promote with Dreamcatcher since November to join the "Idol Producer" show in China. But then the Corona virus happened, the show were delayed. She was supposed to comeback around May 2020 and now it might take longer. 😨 Plus her hometown is Wuhan too, tbh it wouldn't look good if she comeback to Korea now 😨 Hope Handong and her family are well ㅠㅠ

[@aislin2989]

It probably wouldn't, and I think no matter any result they'll keep people there in China to avoid spoilers.

[@aha9229]

I swear if people fricking use her being born in Wuhan, China as a way to hate on Dreamcatcher, I'm gonna fricking beat a bitch. People literally try to find a way to hate on people with the littlest of things these days. Seriously. Ex: Jennie not smiling - all of a sudden a bitch. (She seriously doesn't have to fake and smile 24/7 smh)

[@gianmyrvicente4055]

Llimu trueeee like, let them be, they are just human!!! OMG I think it is mostly K-Netizens, they are fucking toxic while the international fans are very humble.

[@shi9705]

AND NOW THIS: I started to watch the show because of her. And guess what. SHE GOT LIKE 0 SECONDS SCREENTIME TFFFFF. So, today she was ranked last again. I honestly can't with those people anymore. Giving her no screentime....How tf is she supposed to gain fans? The disrespect

[@neruneru9713]

@@shi9705 Good- no, GREAT news: If you're keeping up with the show, you probably already know what I'll be talking about but I'll chat anyway (hope no one minds). From our quiet Dongie being overshadowed by the other trainees, the terrible line distribution of her performance with Esther Yu (I don't anything against her), ranking last in said performance, to barely making it into the top 60, Handong FINALLY got the attention she deserves. Yes, in her most recent performance (as I'm writing this comment), she still ranked last, but people started noticing and paying attention to her (or so I've read in the comments). About damn time. I honestly don't know what I'm going to do if people STILL ignored her after that amazing performance. I heard that she was leader and lead (main?) vocal? I only watch clips and cuts but I've seen her performance. She was FIRE.

[@roseblue_]

This video was one of the most important journalistic approaches to describe the story of Dreamcatcher. However, since it's older, it lucks the most important part of their story: Their rapid and incredible commercial success in Korea in the last 20 months. Dreamcatcher have swarmed GAON sales with their later Dystopia Trilogy and the Summer Holiday Mini Album, in under 2 years (2020-2021). This year, they ranked at #6 of the Best Selling Girl Groups 2021 list, with 257 687 total physical GAON sales for their two albums, D:RtU and Summer Holiday. Between Blackpink at #5 a and (G)IDLE at #7... They're one of the few names on the list not coming from a Big 3 company. DC have now more than 550 000 total albums sold through GAON in Korea (doubled their sales in just 20 months) and have also doubled their total brand YT views to more than 400M, in the same time (with over 280M Official MV total views). They became the first K-Pop Girl Group to reach #1 on Billboard's Next Big Sound Chart in February 2021, with Odd Eye. And all that, in a year that the K-Pop industry produced record sales. Dreamcatcher proved that they're late bloomers, and that they can deliver amazing music and performances, that people in Korea and abroad love (Sources for the data can be provided on demand). Dreamcatcher have now officially outperformed some of the important girl groups mentioned in this video (many faced serious problems in 2021, unfortunately) and the girls proved to the World they are a force to be reckoned with. They've started making money to pay back their debt, help Gahyeon get RICH and create more comebacks, which could make things even better for them. Of course, in an unstable environment, like the Covid Era, you can't really predict things. Eg the New Year's Eve Festival they were participating in, called Countdown Fantasy 2021-2022, just got cancelled, due to government restrictions. And they could have been going on World Tours by now and become really big in the West, Loona Style. But Covid doesn't allow it, not just yet. The only beef I have with this interesting and well made video is that it keeps creating the perception that Dreamcatcher are *still* very underappreciated in Korea, in 2021. They're not. Not anymore. After the Dystopia Trilogy (Scream, Boca, Odd Eye), and Summer Holiday (BEcause), they're now an important Korean idol group with a sizable Korean InSomnia fandom with their talent, chaotic personalities and humanity and if they dodge some more bullets, they can become a big reference point to the K-Pop industry. All that, while still never having won a first win on a show, partly BEcause BTS came back, yet again this last Summer, while DC were also promoting during the Olympics and they had to stop for a week... So we really need an update to this video, to complete their story. I personally believe that their next comeback in the following months should be their most important in their career (Siyeon mentioned recently that she learns some songs that are 'masterpieces', obviously for their next comeback), and it will propel them into becoming really successful and established in Korea and the World. We all want to see Gahyeon getting RICH, don't we?

[@kairaaanshi_]

I’m literally frothing at the mouth for this comeback I stg. It’s my first comeback from them as an insomnia so I literally cant wait!

[@stangahyeonseyebrows2280]

Yassss. We need Gahyeon get RICH.

[@channl_of_fo_aa1747]

Just few day ago Dreamcatcher had their first win on tv show with their new single Maison, I’m so fricking happy and proud of these girls

[@karinvasu3005]

no one couldve foreseen their success in the next comebacks no? but dystopia trilogy was just excellent and well thought of and so it brought in so many fans props to ollounder, leez, hwang sooyeon, and literally everyone who works with them and what kind of sequel video could even be made now tho, what would be in it? other than their first ever win...? everything is practically smooth sailing now imo? this video tackles the ups and downs of the group in a dramatic fashion cos it def suited that style of delivery. if there aren't many dramatic things going on i don't know if there would be a suitable sequel to this video. maybe later on, let's see how dreamcatcher goes...maybe around their contract renewal a sequel could be made?

[@someone-re7sq]

we need gahyeon to get RICH.

[@norahammes2029]

"Seems like everything about may throws everyone's math skills out of the window" Me born in May: ah, this explains my maths grade

[@yuni_strawberi]

Alice 2076 I was born in May and I’m really good at math uwu 💕🍡

[@suckerforseulgi]

I was born May 8 and struggle in math yet still have an A. Idk what’s going on but I’m not complaining.

[@yuni_strawberi]

sharethepapayas what year were you born in?💖

[@suckerforseulgi]

-yunjoonie affs࿐ྂ 2006. How about you?

[@yuni_strawberi]

sharethepapayas I was born on May 13th 2006💖 you’re 5 days older than me

[@koolqeee]

Dreamcatcher is SO underrated. Just like how Mera is SO underrated. Mera is so amazing at story telling, her videos don't fee like 30 mins because I'm paying full attention from the beginning to the end. Well done Mera!

[@rosa3299]

I would say they are underappreciated than underrated

[@user-xm2nb7qj1t]

@@plasmakitten4261 I joined in December last year, so that's at least one new addition haha

[@aSUGAaddiction]

Me: What song replaced them after only a week? "FAKE LOVE" plays Me: Oh, damn

[@kimberlyrios]

lol that song introduced me to kpop but come one bts why around that time😭😭😭

[@Ek-bk8ql]

Me: meh I’m not that interested in girl groups :/ Dreamcatcher: hey. Me: on second thought.

[@peija96]

pls update on your second thought. would love to hear it :D

[@spi1743]

same lol, aside from blackpink they really caught my attention

[@chuukensoop]

opposite for me lol, im not interested in boy groups

[@hayley702]

chuken soop same lol

[@noor-tb8ue]

@@chuukensoop hi amy

[@amanduuuh_7117]

Honestly You and I promoting at the same time as Fake Love was a huge win tbh. So many new international fans came in and were watching the music shows and got introduced to Dreamcatcher then. I was one of them and I remember all the chats always asking about them when they performed. I've been a casual listener since then, so I think it was a blessing in disguise.

[@aislin2989]

glad to have you along!

[@joyboy6472]

ngl the most schocking part for me was the fact that they went unnoticed in Japan 😭 i thought that would be the one place where they'd be the most popular considering their j rock influenced sound

[@s1ckdolly]

Yeah especially since a portion of there sound is literally j-rock.

[@Viczization]

I was so upset when Everglow won. AND I ADORE EVERGLOW. But I really did feel it was Dreamcatcher time to shine... :( fingers crossed 🤞🏻 and prayers to God 🙏🏻 for a win this year!

[@EverythingxYourexNot]

SAME. To this day, I hate how much I wanted to rip that win away from EG, even though I like them.

[@kimeki95]

Saddest thing is EG wasn't at fault and they knew nothing.. just imagine if all the alleged score thing is true, EG will felt very disappointed that their 1st win was only because of unfair treatment :( fck sbs the show

[@liaavv_4959]

Oh I was so mad about that

[@nekograce7914]

And if they get a first win with the next comeback will be a 6 bc Handong is doing idol producer and won’t be in this promotion.

[@Viczization]

NekoGrace 79 damn always has to be something 😭😭

[@williamtighe9978]

Fun fact about Dreamcatcher: They have their own website, KZbin Channel and also their own company. Dreamcatcher Company with their parent company is Happy Face Entertainment With Dreamcatcher Company Jiu Sua Siyeon Handong Yoohyeon Dami and Gahyeon are doing solo projects while being committed to the group In December of 2019 they had a USA tour INVITATION TO NIGHTMARE CITY which contain five cities Los Angeles Chicago Dallas Orlando Jersey City. L.A and Jersey City were sold out and Chicago were almost sold out but unfortunately their fanbase in Dallas and Orlando isn't as strong as Los Angeles Chicago and Jersey City. Dreamcatcher USA fanbase donated money for a LED AD in Time Square New York City for their last show. Personal Note: I was lucky enough to see these amazing and talented ladies at their concert in Chicago. The energy from the audience was incredible and intense from the time Dreamcatcher took the stage to the end. Meeting them after the show is a memory I wil never forget. It's sad to hear South Korea doesn't appreciate Jiu Sua Siyeon Handong Yoohyeon Dami and Gahyeon and they are so unrated there.

[@nikkic7693]

Since Dreamcatcher renewed their contracts I want a Part 2 😭😭😭

[@zhanghanjin5855]

How Scream's board meeting looked like: Hello hAve a Handshake Handshake Would you like a handshake? I like your tie I'm not wearing a tie. I heard food would be provided I lied Here, have a handshake Have a handshake Your hands are warm So here's my idea, let's kill insomnias with this whole comeback Yes Fantastic Perfect Now here's my plan, give SuA a big fucking sword Yes i agree Brilliant That was what I was thinking Perfect Fantastic That's all I ever wanted

[@neruneru9713]

Also: Give Gahyeon a pretty mask and surprise the fans even more.

[@likeAflamingo-i2e]

@@neruneru9713 also: We never forget Handong. Put a placeholder for her this comeback Will make all InSimnias heart explode from happiness

[@justinehercthehuman]

Give JiU* a big fucking sword

[@Neha-mw6bz]

Boca board meeting: "Pink hair Gahyeon, give Dami that iconic rap and Siyeon's highnote...pretty much to kill Somnies" "Amazing...excellent" Odd Eye board meeting: "Give Handong plenty of lines, Blonde Siyeon, write something on Sua's face, air spin and high kick." "Fabulous"

[@DR43N4T0R]

i saw them on their US tour and damn even with a (probably??) shoestring budget they can put on a show - their strong choreo is a godsend in that respect. plus the great thing about having a rock-forward discography is that it gets everyone jumping around. tbh i‘m not really into the sound of their early eras?? (fun, but not my thing). but seeing that shit live, their stage presence dragged me in and in that moment i was a whole ass jrock stan lmao

[@ashm003]

I was lucky enough to watch them at kcon la in 2018 and it was amazing. I already liked them a lot but the performance made me like them even more. Their presence was off the charts

[@12times21]

I’m glad their company was really riding for them. They didn’t get the CLC treatment. They worked with what would help them grow. I really like how you covered this. I laughed a lot and I appreciated the knowledge. It was fun but not mean in any way.

[@PrincessJichu]

Im so pissed that their first win got stolen. Dreamcatcher are such talented women, AMAZING vocals, AMAZING coreo and AMAZING personalities.

[@EverythingxYourexNot]

I also personally think Deja Vu is their best song ever, and wish they could have won with that song. ☹️

[@Fancy-e4z]

Second win was stolen too :(

[@mali-ng4mc]

guys pls support dreamcatcher in their next comeback!! Their already posting teaser pics and everything else!!

[@mali-ng4mc]

@Nightcore Sarina oh no they didnt, till now there are only concept photos ^^

[@kookiemonster6035]

hugbkwan they look GORGEOUS❤️ Is handing not gonna participate in this comeback?

[@mali-ng4mc]

@@kookiemonster6035 yes this will be a comeback without handong sadly :(( she also wasnt at the concert i was i really miss her

[@somniarmy.]

They post cb related content on Twitter!

[@kaedeharakazuha3643]

I wonder what concept they are going now 🧐

[@LunaMapping_KR]

8 Years later and they've gotten their first music show win, I'm so proud to be in this fandom, they're one of the most insane groups in kpop, literally singing while performing really hard choreography, producing music in a genre not popular in korea.

[@StarRailingYourMum]

When I first discovered Dreamcatcher, I was questioning why so many people were sleeping on them. Their songs are absolutely incredible. I remember watching Chase Me and jumping out of my chair when I heard rock music because I was so use to pop-y songs lol. Glad they're sticking around. I hope in 2020 they'll get more success!

[@ReptilianTeaDrinker]

The people sleeping on them don't know what good music is. lol Even if people aren't into rock, they have b-side tracks that are less rock-sounding, yet people don't bother with their b-sides either. Ugh. Like, c'mon people! Wake up and listen to Dreamcatcher! As an InSomnia, I honestly love every single song of theirs, which has never happened to me with any other group, besides BTS. Dreamcatcher deserve the world, honestly.

[@DrillOnABeat]

Yesss!

[@hondgjbfgh2653]

@@ReptilianTeaDrinker true

[@juwilleg2647]

13:32 I dont think Happy Face knew that YG was going to cancel mix nine but they definitely knew the audience rating was really low (1.5% on average and 2.1% at max). So when Happy face annonced dreamcatcher was going on a tour instead of continuing the show, I felt that was the best solution. They prefered to secure an already existing fanbase rather than trying to milk a low rating show ^^ (source for audience rating: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mix_Nine#Ratings)

[@nicolegoh9748]

Thank god they got pulled out though mixnine would've been an absolute waste of time especially since JiU caught lots of people's attention

[@archvileppv]

then I realized how wise the leadership of our girls is and became calm for them

[@zibbitybibbitybop]

Soooo, who else is here in September 2020, watching Dreamcatcher obliterate their own album sales records with almost 87,000 copies in one month, show up on like five times as many programs and youtube channels as before, and single-handedly keep Happyface in business in spite of temporarily being down a member and having a global pandemic prevent the group from touring? Good things come to those who wait, and now is the time for some very good things. Now if only they can get Handong back and stop making comebacks on the same day as top-selling groups *coughItzycough*, they could get that dang first win already.

[@lostkpopfan3137]

We got 90k+ with odd eye (road to utopia) and it’s been less than a month! So proud at the growth we’ve had!

[@keiserious]

@@lostkpopfan3137 at this point, take the commercial success and shoot for international awards wins since it ain’t happening in ktown.

[@mirhasanoddname]

I'm here after 90k hanteo/120k gain sales, lots of tv appearances, being on the news, being named by a very famous producer and one of their songs used as a bgm on one of the most viewed variety shows at the moment!! things are looking good♡

[@Brosky305]

@@keiserious yeah apparently Korea doesn't like rock... Ughhh

[@chrome7651]

i wasn't ready for the "and they achieved their first win in september of 2019... kind of"

[@akshitha3002]

fyi Siyeon from Dreamcatcher just released her solo debut 'Paradise'. If you haven't already, you must check it out. Dreamcatcher is one of the best girl groups in terms of vocals(right alongside mamamoo) and Siyeon proves how much of a vocal monster she is in this song. Thank you for making this video!! I always yearn from these girls to receive the recognition they deserve.

[@codylakee]

And now they have there first win. I couldn’t be more proud of watching these girls grow over the past 5 years

[@m.m.mefuyayuki1550]

I became an Insomnia because of the collab with king's raid (I played the game for a lots of months). Silent Night is undoubtedly my favorite song from them.

[@satriabuana1259]

yeah me too! initially i didnt care about the collab, but here i am

[@kimeki95]

For me I've been their fan ever since debut and idek Deja Vu was a collab with a game until I saw it lol they made me play it

[@kimeki95]

@Nightcore Sarina King's Raid

[@partygirl0101]

silent night is a masterpiece

[@biggie395]

Silent Night!!!! YESSSS I absolutely love Kings Raid good game

[@moi4791]

That Cersei moment with Lucky strike playing, they way I YELLED-

[@alexanderidle6843]

I'm so glad dreamcatcher happened because after they started getting fame and recognition A LOT of girl groups who never did any concept other than cute & girl crush concepts started doing dark concepts and experimenting with rock music, they're really changing the industry even though these groups still don't give them credit for inspiring them

[@KarlaJeannieDoddy]

Dreamcatcher were the first kpop girl group to do a full European tour with their Fly High tour in Feb2018 'In February 2018, Dreamcatcher became the first K-pop girl group to complete a tour of major European cities to perform their music and interact with international fans. Cities visited on the 'Fly High' World Tour were London (February 14), Lisbon (February 16), Madrid (February 18), Amsterdam (February 21), Berlin (February 22), Warsaw (February 23), and Paris (February 25).'

[@chiaraiannelli4696]

They even came to milan,like only 3 small groups ever made a concert in milan

[@tomhannah3825]

I fully expected them to go to France, after that awesome French chateau... Great set!

[@danceluver147]

I just wanna let you know that dreamcatcher is having a comeback on the 18th I believe and it's going to be their 1st full length album.

[@danceluver147]

Nightcore Sarina yeah I follow some dreamcatcher news on instagram and so far they release some teaser pics

[@evevxx2670]

The packaging honestly looks so pretty

[@danceluver147]

@@evevxx2670 I know and there are 4 versions that's awesome

[@aha9229]

It's sad that they're going to do it without Handong but it's in the favor of all girls. They get more attention and popularity in China, and their new album could get them more popularity and more people will notice them.

[@lynalys8567]

It's their first full album btw

[@krosepitaya]

Amazing how CLC and Dreamcatcher dodged disbandment, both went from 5 to 7 members, changed their concept unexpectedly and now they're on their way to success😭💓

[@krosepitaya]

@Hisagi Shuuhei That's the best part of it, guess is because they can understand each other's really well.

[@banghiburan2956]

@Hisagi Shuuhei and one of them can speak mandarin fluently..

[@yulana990]

I'm still so furious about the ridiculous counting on that show, they clearly either fcked up unintentionally or fcked up intentionally because they didn't want them to win. And I still don't even understand why they're referred to as rookies whilst they're clearly not :( I also like everglow, but dreamcatcher clearly had that win if it wasn't for that intentionally/unintentional error, I mean even people who weren't dreamcatcher fans mentioned it! Thanks for this video, nice to see all of compiled without someone throwing their own opinions into it :)

[@CinderXiaoLong]

I buried The Show so far in my memory I forgot about it when SBS further proved their shittiness with another of my favorite groups: Red Velvet and what happened with Wendy So now I'm doubly peeved at SBS

[@jebipop]

honestly hearing dreamcatcher's music for the first time, specifically scream, literally flipped my world upside down directly on its ass. changed the whole trajectory of my life. they've been one of my ult girl groups ever since, and even tho it took way too long on an unnecessarily rocky road, i am SO happy they finally got the first win they've long deserved. i couldn't be more proud. and even now, about a year after their win, they're still killing the game!

[@shinwassup2146]

Dreamcatcher is the only girl group that can wash my ears once in a while from all the trendy edm, cutesy or girl crush concepts or music.. so they really stand out in kpop for me... I hope their Scream will win this time! 😭

[@withlovemays]

MIXNINE was the biggest joke ever. Back then Dreamcatcher was one of my fave GGs. Both Dreamcatcher members and two members of my fave boy group were pulled out. It happened almost at the same time but I was so mad until Mixnine flopped. It was so w e i r d 😂 I was so glad both groups were pulled out and while my ult bg has practically disbanded 2 yrs later, I hope Dreamcatcher can go far! I'm not much into Kpop anymore, but they deserve it.

[@dancingonfire6212]

Out of curiosity, what was your other fave?

[@withlovemays]

@@dancingonfire6212 The boy group I meant was 24K! Out of 7 members, to joined the show - one of them is my ult ㅠㅠ And then they were suddenly pulled out

[@nelyenoh1915]

Dreamcatcher pulled out because of their world tour i think? So it's not really that bad or robbed

[@anhthii]

I discovered this group a few weeks ago because I was discovering Kpop with a random Spotify playlist. There was "Scream" between two cute songs from Twice and Red Velvet, I got a bit startled. Now, I'm listening to their songs everyday and bought a ticket for their online concert. I hope they will be more successful in the future, they deserve it.

[@lucyheartfilia2073]

Red velvet have no cute songs tho

[@hihum5108]

@@lucyheartfilia2073 red flavor, umpah umpah, power up, and happiness are typing..

[@lucyheartfilia2073]

@@hihum5108 they are not cute songs

[@lucyheartfilia2073]

@@thegoldenpolarbear5936 there are no cute songs. umpah umpah,red flavor,rookie,dumb dumb and Russian roulette are bubbly and quirky not cute

[@niakurnia8576]

@@lucyheartfilia2073 but... I do think they are really cute in dumb dumb and red flavor 👉👈

[@hardbros2021]

I'm a rock/metal fan but i find Dreamcatcher quiet awesome with their music, storyline, themes, and of course the choreography. I enjoy their music and now it's one of my playlist in the car. The only kpop group that had me following their music. Thanks Dreamcatcher for open up a new rabbit hole for me.

[@sophiaaretuza]

yeah same. they are the only kpop group i actually like. their whole concept is just so interesting (I'm that bitch unironically listening to mcr in 2020)

[@BloodofaFool]

CLC and Dreamcatcher's stories are so similar i makes you love their friendship even more. They are in the same forever sailing boat in between notoriety and not. Both had a huge shift in look and music. Happy face has more hope in DC than Cube in CLC.. i mean they even made a separate branch called Dreamcatcher Co. now and the girls STILL haven't gotten their first win. If Cube promoted CLC like Happy Face does DC i promise you they would be so much bigger than they are now. The only thing that "holds DC back" is their music not being so popular in Korea but does well overseas. CLC hasn't been promoted properly. Stan these two groups and give them all your support that you can because they both have worked hard and deserve better.

[@rmickb2d1nss96]

With Happyface, at least we all know that they are giving it their all for Dreamcatcher. Frequent content and vlives, having their own world tour (I mean they went to Europe and South America for goodness sake), a stable concept and giving them freedom. Basically Dreamcatcher is exceeding relative expectations and they are increasing in popularity. Meanwhile I have a lot of questions for Cube about CLC. No idea why CLC can't go outside of Asia when the girls themselves want to. Maybe this is the year where CLC finally breaks through but time is ticking. But this assumes that Cube actually cares about promoting them.

[@yaoiloversasusaku]

when "lucky strike" started in the middle of the sinking ship explanation I LOST IT

[@stoopidgrrl]

describing dreamcatcher as he leo dicaprio of kpop was the most accurate metaphor after hearing about the gymnastics these girls have gone through over the years oh my god

[@chantaltestman6916]

There is one thing that Dreamcatcher expose about kpop is how boxed it has become over the decades. Dreamcatcher concepts isn't anything new on the global scale of the music industry. Japan had own the whole pop mix with gothic fashion with horror themes for several decades. The idea of rock being mix with pop without horror themes been around since the 50s. Dreamcatcher is going against the odds is an understatement. their concept is very much a necessity to bring in some form of diversity in an industry that has become over saturated and traditionalist. I am not a huge fan of Dreamcatcher, kpop is my guilty pleasure and metal speaks to my soul. Back in the day I was gothic (still kinda am, wear a lot black) and that whole alternative scene has it's own pop rock, punk, metal and dance music. I don't know how much Happy Face entertainment really wants to explore rock and metal. Sound wise, Dreamcatcher is very basic with these genres and use it as flare not depth in their songs. It's really up to the company and expanding their sound and image beyond a dark concept. At the moment, Dreamcatcher is doing very well and I hope more idol groups will expand on what they build and all this to be another alternative outside the usually concepts norms.

[@carolinevania5508]

I'm pretty sure dreamcatcher company was aiming for more popularity. This month, many popular groups are having a comeback, so the chances we got our first win is pretty low, but i do hope more ppl will acknowledge dreamcatcher

[@aislin2989]

The CEO said that he knew it was going to be an uphill slog and he seems like the patient sort. The tours can rake in cash, more and more people are joining the fandom, popularity will come.

[@yoogti]

Great content. As a fan, I feel really glad that Dreamcatcher is under Happy Face ent. I mean you sold it : HFE has a great understanding of the streams in the industry. Maybe they don't release songs at the better time, but they keep their idols away from shitstorms, and they manage to extend Dreamcatcher's range in terms of fans, diversity in their projects and so on.

[@hlly20]

Yeah. I've seen companies debut groups, give them 2-3 comebacks. If it doesn't work out as expected, they just give the group an indefinite hiatus or disbandment itself. It's quite the sad reality... I'm glad HF doesn't do this.

[@dreamcatcherpromoter6240]

From struggling to win at the show and now we're here 2 wins in one comeback

[@aislin2989]

I literally died at the 'struggle between two ancient gods: one that wants Dreamcatcher to succeed and one that wants to destroy them at all costs.' I think there is some shady industry stuff going down because the industry thrives on convention... and tbh a lot of songwriters and producers are getting lazy af. *If Dreamcatcher succeeds, then they have to step up their game to compete.* Right now, they're expending minimum effort and getting big bucks for it - why would they want that to change? Leez & Ollander (along with some other producers) are starting to make names for themselves by releasing pure bops and I think some of the house producers are getting worried about it. Not only the producers but the songwriters too. And if there's worry on that level, that means that management is also worried about Dreamcatcher - and any other group that goes outside of convention - succeeding. If Dreamcatcher makes it big, now they're going to have to invest way more money and time and effort into their already existing groups and any new groups that may be in the works.

[@wanderingmoonchild7]

I agree!

[@aislin2989]

@@plasmakitten4261 Yeah that's what I mean - DC doesn't fit the mold and once that mold is broken and 'different' suddenly isn't a dirty word, other companies are going to be utterly *scrambling* to do something "different" - aka stepping up their game. They're complacent right now - there's a familiarity with the current concepts, they know who to hire for MVs, for production, know what songs to buy, etc, to get the results they want. But if the general public begins to accept 'different' as a good thing... they're going to have to suddenly experiment (and fail) with different people. This is a monetary fear from many companies - they know their investments, expenditures, and returns like the back of their hands, but if they have to start experimenting with something different because it's what's either trendy or what they think the general public wants, they have to be prepared to toss money out of the window and not give up on groups if they don't hit it big almost right out of the gate. Experimentation is risk, and not a lot of companies (like the really big ones) want to take that risk.

[@aislin2989]

@@plasmakitten4261 Ateez, Stray Kids (bc JYP lets them pretty much just do whatever with their music), Dreamcatcher, prolly 500 more groups - it's shady shit happening because they don't want other groups to succeed using different concepts, but once that pressure to conform is taken away... (if it ever will be, who knows.) We're both saying the same thing, just coming at it from different angles.

[@myyour360]

I got goosebumps when Deja Vu suddenly started playing. What a beautiful song!! 21:45

[@belvedere6368]

Them getting a win on The Show almost 3 years after the Deja Vu debacle feels like such nice closure.

[@ZwanzigEldeai]

Also Love Shake was/is originally Dalshabet's song and MINX just made a cover.

[@11218z]

ZwanzigEldeai And this was their comeback song🤧 I wonder was Happyface was thinking then 😫

[@somniarmy.]

Yeah what the hell no respect for minx

[@dmx5735]

@@somniarmy. but all respects for dreamcatcher

[@Suhoshiteru]

whaaaaaatt a cover?? I didn't know this

[@fayebae4005]

@@Suhoshiteru yea its was it was a bside 😣