Does a 10 Speed Tow Better? GMC vs Ford Mashup Towing MPG Test

( www.CMtrailers.com ) 2018 GMC Yukon V8 10-Speed vs Ford F-150 V6 10-Speed vs Towing 7,000 lbs MPG comparison.
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[@FirePoo]

You guys did an excellent job with this video. Exactly the right amount of information vs "humor". Really like the way Andre delivers his points without seeming too biased.

[@KYoss68]

Wouldn't it be more appropriate to compare the Yukon to the new Expedition or Navigator?

[@KingAlphaLion81]

There’s a reason it’s called a mashup...

[@two-face1041]

KYoss68 Yukon would still lose lol

[@tristanscott8977]

KYoss68 that’s what I thought it was going to be but it wasn’t. Haha

[@jamieleeper8215]

But the Yukon won

[@CAMAROFAN45]

The probably can't get the new expedition yet

[@tacopro218]

Ford is working on their next gen Ecoboost. Rumor has it that it will be a two cylinder 1.6 liter quad turbo set-up that produces 475 hp. Yeah, I'm starting that rumor.

[@marknewman9430]

Your starting it, and I'm spreading it.

[@dylanbuk7055]

Did you start the 7.0l DOHC as well

[@stronglikebull2994]

And it gets 68mpg if you fill it with jp10 jet fuel, but only 8mpg with super unleaded.

[@BeachBow]

Don't give them any ideas!! LOL

[@booya6437]

dylan bukovsky Not sure if it’ll be DOHC but a 7L V8 is coming

[@Cutlerview]

I love you guys commitment to accuracy in testing. Great job! One thing missing is talk about how a normally aspirated engine looses 3% of its hp, an tq for every 1k above sea level. Was this test done at sea level? I feel that the reason the fuel mileage was so similar is because the Dinali was compensating out of pure displacement, where as the F150 was actually running very efficient. 3% is a lot of Hp loss especially when running the Gauntlet.

[@MrBillrookard]

Did you guys know that this 10spd trans was co-developed by GM and Ford? Ford did the engineering on it. They're also co-developing a 9spd auto trans for passenger cars which GM has the engineering tasks on. Thus - this makes this test more a test of ENGINES and AERO vs transmissions... :/

[@derick4402629]

I've never seen a GM computer properly calculate mileage. I find it interesting that in my experience GM consistently shows 2-3 mpg better than actual.

[@dmitowing]

I don't understand it either, my Ford is usually .5-2 mpg high. Yet my Peterbilt semi can calculate the exact fuel used down to .1 of a gallon over an entire 4000 mile trip.

[@BrianNC81]

Results as expected. Takes about the same amount of fuel to make power whether it's low displacement turbo or high displacement naturally aspirated engine. I'm going to bet most people that buy a Denali XL don't care much about fuel consumption/efficiency. Keeping the tank full is a tiny % of the ownership cost.

[@TheDaltonmichaels]

Suv's also have an aerodynamic advantage as well. But it also weighs more. i think that's why we saw such an even end result. maybe a base model chevy suburban work truck of fleet model version with that same engine and trans (which isn't an option) would actually win by a larger margin since the weight would be more even with the truck. probably anyway.

[@BrianNC81]

Dalton Michaels Would love to see GM revive the 4.5L Duramax project and make it available in the Suburban/Tahoe platform.

[@Davegvg3576]

Not surprising - it takes X amount of energy regardless of engine to config to move that weight through that loop. 10 speeds keep everything in the "sweet spot" so you dot rev to high or lug. another great FTL test. Thanks guys.

[@BSFJeebus]

now to test the Lincoln Navigator and see how it stacks, I think that's a better comparison with the Denali than the F150

[@J-W.-]

Bogdan Oros Lincoln is to the escalade.

[@jaskdavis]

The Yukon is literally the same weight and drivetrain as the Escalade, It's like Comparing the Expedition's performance to the Navigator... It's all the same components just looks nicer and cost more.

[@BSFJeebus]

Jason Davis the navigator uses the raptor ho V6 compared to the regular on the expedition. The Yukon and Escalade are identical

[@jaskdavis]

Oh wow! I did not know that! Thanks

[@blackraven8841]

When they forget the difference between GMC and Chevy is the name. Could literally turn a Denali into an Escalade by changing the wheels, steering wheel and emblems and grill.

[@itsrob2321]

My 99 F250 4WD V10 got a consistent 10 MPG towing a 3 axle trailer loaded out. I don’t know what the weight was, but it was a breeze to pull. The right tool for the job is better than modifying the wrong one. Of course if you’re only towing occasionally, maybe an ecoboost is fine.

[@rand087]

SUV's will always do better pulling an enclosed trailer than a pickup truck. WIND is a real factor and suv's help deflect some of it away from the trailer

[@jimhlee]

I think the big factor here was that the SUV created a slip stream for the trailer. That is really a big factor. Might not seem like much, but it's a big part of racing, even in bicycles, which would explain the MPG difference even with the weight and engine displacement differences. The pick up truck had to break the aerodynamics for both itself and the trailer. I'd be interested to see a more comparable side by side comparison.

[@gigemags1991]

I looked for a long time for the right SUV to pull a trailer. Our cargo trailer weighs about the same when pulling. We pull 250 miles each way every month. The Chevy suburban transmissions do not hold up over time. Finally went out and found a fairly low mileage 2004 Ford Excursion and have never looked back. The V10 does get 8-10 daily without a trailer but with a large trailer gets the same. It is a beast pulling. And of course, didn't have to pay 70k. Paid 15k and it was practically new inside and out. We also wanted the Excursion for a family vehicle. Also, can't beat the cargo space.

[@beefstew5608]

Thank you for showing the gear ratio👍🏼

[@dustinjer]

Love the video. Just wanted to let you know that your videos won't play on my TV for some reason. Never happens with any other KZbin videos. Must be the format? Works on my tablet though. Keep up the great work!

[@DS-TRUCKS]

Very impressive! Let's see a comparable Ford with the same rear end... Not bad from the Ford F-150 with a 3.55 rear end!

[@mefastocastigo]

DonnaSean really doesn't matter when you have 10 gears to work with.

[@DS-TRUCKS]

maybe so...

[@anthonywebber2211]

DonnaSean ford has the advantage of being lighter

[@DS-TRUCKS]

Anthony Webber I have to give it to GM on this one! They got a great V8! So let's line them up 6.2 v8 vs 3.5 EcoBoost... Comparable vehicles... In a drag race... And it will be settled!

[@anthonywebber2211]

the only way ford can win lol

[@NVSRides]

Great video. Love the information. Keep up the good work.

[@kellyfontes7757]

Air Ride? Not magnetic anymore? So you were going 70 mph and what were the RPMs? I saw part of the dial at 7:34.. 2000 RPM? Very Nice.

[@matthewschiebout7384]

Still Magnetic.

[@booya6437]

Ford guy here, V8 all the way.

[@CJColvin]

Boo Ya Me to brother. I love my 2011 Ford F150 with the 5.0L Coyote V8.

[@trevorc5477]

3.5 ecoboost is a MUCH better towing engine than any v8

[@Treyk901]

The ecoboost will outperform the v8 all day every day. Much better tq curve.

[@CJColvin]

Hey folks its Trevor C the typical modern truck lover.

[@CJColvin]

Trey K Except for the fact that the ecoboost engines won't outlast the engines in the engines in the 92-96 Ford Trucks not even you're overpriced plastic truck.

[@kd8opi]

Great video as always, but why pick 70 MPH? Why do you guys think 70 MPH is either an efficient towing speed, or a speed at which either of these transmissions are geared to provide peak efficiency? It would be a harder test, but I'd love to see how your efficiency would increase at 65 and 60 MPH.

[@ColdSmokes]

The bottom line is that it takes Fuel to move these vehicles. Fuel. Both of these engines are at peak or near peak efficiency with available technology. 5 stars for both

[@jonfisher9960]

Both ten speeds are a joint venture between fomoco and gm basically identical

[@justin4clayton]

These things both used the GM / Ford co-developed 10 speed automatic. It's the same box, just tuned differently per manufacturer.

[@kingdaniel3519]

I would be interested to know the difference in curb weight between this and the F150 they tested.

[@chrisdeal3170]

I have the same trouble with the hitch cover. We do use it. Towed my 7,000 30' travel trailer many many times with it.

[@propellerhead9197]

GM AND FORD PARTNERED UP AND DEVELOPED THAT 10 SPEED TOGETHER. THOSE TRUCKS HAVE IDENTICAL TRANSMISSIONS.

[@rivervalleyfarm482]

So what is the overdrive ratio of the 10 speed versus the 6 speed? I bet it's not much. A lot smaller steps between gears though so it will be smoother shifting and should require less fuel to get up to speed. But cruising mileage will be about the same. Now then I'm sure the transmission does not have 10 speed clutches in it. Most likely only 5. It accomplishes 10 speeds by actuating two or more clutches at once. I've dealt with this in heavy duty applications and it works well and is extremely durable. How well these will hold up, time will tell.

[@TomasArnos]

Great video! RST edition comes with Suburban too, right?

[@PETERLINNAH]

Great review as usual. Question: shouldn't you be using a TOP TIER gasoline in these modern fuel injected vehicles? The TOP TIER website does not show LOVE'S to be top tier. I stay away from gasoline that is not rated to be top tier (Pilot is another one) because over time the fuel injectors can clog. What's up? Are there no Chevron, Mobil, Exxon, 76, or Shell stations around?

[@dmitowing]

Top Tier is literally a marketing gimmick. No manufacturer even recommends it.

[@garyburbank8895]

Do you think you could hotshot with the GMC Yukon Denali and a 20Ft Flatbed Trailer also Dodge Ram 1500 20ft Flatbed trailer Ford F150 20ft Flatbed Trailer

[@dustintunis9347]

Did anybody else notice when they topped it off before the run it took more than topping it off after the run? I'm guessing it would only be a tenth or 2 gallons different, but it would change the mpg by about the same. It doesn't really matter I guess, the weather call easily affect (effect?) it more than that.

[@Thermool]

Both Ford and GM did work together to engineer this transmission

[@steven530x]

That Yukon is badass and has a Mans Muscle engine under the hood, instead of the Problematic Ford Ecoshit engine and still gets similar fuel mileage.

[@Kingswood7189]

Its amazing that you have to spend $60k or more to get a NICE new vehicle these day. I wish i could go back to when $35-40k did just that... I dont really feel surprised the n/a v8 got (slightly) better mpg than the tt ecoboost v6.

[@danielrichards8596]

Would the weight difference between the Yukon XL and the F-150 give the MPG advantage to the F-150? It seems like comparing the amount a horse and an elephant eats.

[@MakingCentsInTrucking]

Good video. You guys work well together. Very informative.

[@jaysinon9089]

You need to run a second test unloaded for a true comparison. Yes they both got 9 miles to the gallon loaded but what happens unloaded? The Yukon get 15 MPG and the F150 gets over 20 MPG.

[@miroslavernestmoravek2619]

Do you check the tire pressure ? Because it could affect the fuel consumption.

[@mikewellington2738]

Just curious, are you guys planning a regular review of the Yukon?

[@devonte3062]

Aren't these the same 10 speed?

[@TheKacper2001]

Yes, they're

[@FeiHuWarhawk]

Towing 7000 lbs mileage is about the same for most similar gasoline tow vehicles. Especially up hills and mountains! No surprise! With 10 speed maybe touch better. Duramax Diesel may get 2 mpg better! Another test would be flatter ground where lower trans gears may offer little bit better mileage figures. Pulling 7000 up hills uses a lot of gas and cannot get around it!

[@TheKacper2001]

Dan Fahey is this answer to that comment? It’s seams not

[@82mattlopez]

Different transmission calibration

[@TheKacper2001]

Matt Lopez in software wise

[@boss123400]

Turbos for fuel efficiency? Not if their in use. The GM motor is more efficient, it moved 20% more weight from point A to B with the same mpg.

[@TFLtruck]

We towed the same 7000 lbs trailer with both.

[@tylersolt2639]

TFL, depending on which F-150 you use, the Yukon could be up to 1,400 lbs heavier.

[@boss123400]

Tyler Solt Yeah, I just rounded it to 4000lbs for the Ford and 5000lbs for the GM, making an even 20% for ease of understanding.

[@MarcMonson]

over a 98 mile run you maybe spend 1 minute accelerating ( since they turn around half way) , i bet the aero advantage gains are greater than the loss of pushing a heavier object with no longitudinal acceleration

[@Welcometofacsistube]

Marc Monson exactly. Once weight it moving it needs only a fraction of the power to keep it moving

[@dposer10]

I'm not 100% sure but i believe that transmission is the same in both trucks

[@conspiracyquality]

Since Ford and GM developed this 10 speed together all you have done is compare the difference in the efficiency of the engines and software .. good job, I think

[@VARITHMS]

This just shows it takes a certain amount of energy to move mass. The GMC had a little bit of aerodynamic advantage of not having a bed but lost some due to internal efficiencies with two more cylinders and/or weighting more. I do like the solid rear axle on the full size gm SUVs. The low end torque with the ecoboost is great for towing. Either way, 9mpg sucks. That trailer must be like dragging a parachute around. Bring on the 1/2 ton diesels.

[@Metalbass1979]

Another great video.I'd love to see y'all do a video of the F150 on 2wd MPG vs the 4A setting.

[@marcmatthews7977]

This is a "reasonable" comparison but definitely not an equal one. If you could have mounted a topper to the bed of the Ford and done this test, it would have been more comparable. Having an exposed bed and a "flat-nosed" trailer, the Ford had much more exposed wind resistance! All this said, virtually Identical mileage is great. I do own a 2018 F150 with the 2.7 ecoboost (and 10-speed tranny) and I tow every day with it. I will be mounting a topper in the future and I am looking forward to seeing how my wind resistance will be reduced by it and how my mileage will be affected. I am averaging 13.2 regularly with the mixed driving and speeds I do.

[@jeff3220]

Here is why I prefer bigger engines

[@meldinssti3311]

Jackson because .02mpg better while towing?

[@Jsailor1210]

Hell yeah! less things to go wrong with that naturally aspirated 6.2 liter. No turbos to worry about, not cheap to replace those turbos.

[@jeff3220]

Meldins STI Bigger engines - better sound, pure power, no turbos!

[@meldinssti3311]

Jackson I’m all for bigger engines lol there’s no replacement for displacement but I’m just saying the test they did in this video does not show an advantage to either for mpg although for reliability I’m sure the 6.0 will outlast the eco boost

[@A48L16S091366]

Do you add a trailer brake controller to vehicles that don’t have one, or do you run this test without a trailer brake hookup in some cases?

[@thomaspaul2465]

The only thing that matters is final drive ratios, not what the diff size is. Also, if you only put 2 gallons of premium 91 then how do we know if there wasnt 30 or more gallons of regular fuel in the tank before you topped it up. There was no explanation of what was in the tank before the top up. Also what was the temperatures and other weather parameters here. Please list the weather for each mpg test as this affects mpg.

[@jsasu.3]

this is exactly what i was telling my wife. i was raptor shopping till i heard the exhaust note 😑 so i looked around on the web and found the new GMC AT4. V-8 with similar mileage. OH..........but that V-8 noise it makes!😏 If i need more power i can always get an Edelbrock E-Force supercharger

[@larryrx7sports253]

Good Video. Lets Not lose focus on the real world truck towing. Most people don't tow 7,000lbs plus everyday. The F150 3.5L Twin Turbo will get better fuel economy than the 6.2L GMC with normal everyday driving. Not to mention the F150 will have quicker acceleration than the 6.2L GMC. In this comparison, both vehicles essentially achieved the same fuel mileage while towing the same 7,000lb trailer. Moreover, if your a Heavy Hauling - Crazy Towing Maniac, the F150 3.5L Turbo has a max towing rating of 11,800+ lbs. - the 6.2L GMC cant touch that.

[@sickjohnson]

Did you use the same octane on the Ford? I guess the difference would be non towing mileage then?

[@RVVASI2024]

Was the total weight 7,000 including trailer as well ?

[@canmtb4676]

Surprised to see GMC matched MPG against Ecoboost. Interesting to see how that will change on going up ike gauntlet.

[@RobWillmot]

I must of missed something. Which one tows better. You are only talking about MPG

[@NorthernRiderOffroad]

I wonder how their mpg numbers would compare during normal driving. I think the whole point of the ecoboost is power when you need it. If youre not towing the mpgs may be better than the gmc. Less boost equals more fuel economy.

[@anthonywebber2211]

Northern Rider GM has cylinder deactivation

[@NorthernRiderOffroad]

Anthony Webber yea, thats the other thing. Not sure there is much of a difference. I had an ecoboost before the power bump. That motor is a beast

[@reyperez3424]

Are you guys butthurt, why to many questions, what's the reason for buying a truck or SUV

[@NorthernRiderOffroad]

Rey Perez Excuse me for making conversation. Buying a truck is for torque and towing but it doesnt mean you cant have efficiency. Over time trucks have become way more powerful and way better with fuel consumption.

[@PapaWheelie1]

Can you do a turbo vs na at your altitude, then repeat at sea level?

[@jonetech5324]

I don't get why Chevy guys keep bashing ford when their trucks can have V6s too

[@marcmo7138]

JoneTech A very good and reliable v6 as well.

[@tk17_]

V6 are for smaller cars not trucks or full sized suvs

[@tk17_]

And all they have to do is make a v8 hybrid

[@aidanpitts7999]

The Yukon and the Ford Expedition would be a cool mpg test too.

[@RoyalKingA73]

Excellent video!!

[@melissawilliams2763]

RoyalKingA73 has

[@usmcrpatriotvet5693]

The Yukon was a closed back end SUV. That creates less drag vs the open Pickup with a box walled trailer. The mileage is aerodynamics, not more engine efficiency.

[@JsGarage]

Wow super close. How about unloaded?

[@wtfjmencaliss]

The actual test should've been between the 8-speed yukon vs the new 10-speed yukon, at least they have the same engine so your caption would be more acurate

[@jpowell9343]

Doesn't Ford and gm have the same transmission now? Or am I wrong but that was what a couple people told me.

[@moparkr]

one thing i noticed was at 70 mph in either vehicle the rpm was about 1700. either of my work vans (2012/2015 chevy express 3500) run the same rpm at 70, both with a 6 speed. are we really gaining anything with a 10 speed other than trans lag shifting gears?? seems like the final drive is the same, only more shifts till you get there

[@danmurphy1994]

I wonder how an extended cab standard bed LT with the 6.2 and 4wd performs, I'd imagine that's the lightest configuration with that engine. Either that or the Tahoe RST

[@Name-kd5jj]

So Ford is still doing the Ecoboost thing for what reason?

[@tristanscott8977]

Rex Regum because it can outperform a truck that cost 20k more

[@evanmolden3157]

Tristan Scott but it cant outperform it at all? The heavier truck with a v8 and less power got better gas milage.

[@jakelamb39]

Rex Regum I️ guess they do I️t to appeal for those who want better MPG. Most people who buy an ecoboost I️ feel don’t normally use their truck/SUV for towing.

[@booya6437]

Tristan Scott What? The most expensive Ford trim has an ecoboost 😂

[@fk3321]

Tristan scott. Which truck does the Ford ecoboost outperform that is $20k more??

[@cliffvanscyoc9425]

Stop getting so close to the tailpipe when you record the sound of the vehicle, it's completely not accurate for sound Q, back off 4 to 5 feet. Otherwise love your videos.

[@jornelindberg5127]

why dont u compare the yukon with ford expedition platinum with the 400hp platinum ecoboost 3.5

[@nathanlee3343]

What was the weigh in difference between the two vehicles

[@AnthonySvt_]

You guys should do this again but with the 5.0l 10spd f-150

[@roochiecooch]

Tahoe RST, Yukon Denali, Escalade all have 6.2 and 10 Speeds either standard or available, the Escalade is the most expensive by a lot but the Tahoe with the RST package quickly catches up to the Yukon Denali in price. I don't understand why they make vehicles that directly compete with each other. I built and priced all three as close to the same as I could and the Tahoe RST with 6.2 and 10 speed with 4x4 as close to fully loaded as can be $76,000 new the Yukon Denali with the Same 6.2 and 10 Speed and 4x4 also fully loaded built was estimated to cost $81,000 new and the Escalade with the same equipment 6.2 is standard on the escalade as is the 10 Speed, I added 4x4 to make them comparable and it was estimated at $102,000 new. I find it comical that the GMC and Chevy are so closely priced when equally equipped when the GMC is obviously much more appealing when equipped this way, better looking in my opinion and is only $5,000 more but the Escalade is ridiculous at $21,000 more than Yukon Denali which is insane considering they all use the same chassis, same engine, transmission, 4x4 system, seating (with different materials, dash is not all that different), all 3 can be had with basically identical choices in Wheels, and they all offer a big brake Upgrade for the front for the same $2,900. It's just ludicrous that they haven't learned from the past and are still encroaching on their own market for sales. Sure they can argue that the difference in price makes them occupy slightly different shoppers, but the savvy ones will know that you can get basically all the bang and almost all the luxury by going with the GMC and it's only slightly more than the Tahoe but is also a very large amount cheaper than the Escalade.

[@benjaminwayneb]

Now compare the MPG. of both unloaded.

[@anthonywebber2211]

GM has cylinder deactivation, which means a 6.2 V8 turns into a 3.1 V4

[@jeffanderson7256]

Anthony Webber yep they are about the same mpg wise however the turbos and the cylinder deactivation both take some reliability and longevity away... I would rather just be getting 10mpg

[@Lincolnator721]

my grandma's 2013 ford taurus with the 2.0 ecoboost, 105k miles and no issues. not sure why people seem to think they're unreliable.

[@Lincolnator721]

she gets 30 highway on a good day and it's just amazing for a car that weighs almost as much as the ford crown victoria.

[@anthonywebber2211]

Aztekky in a Ford Taurus an Ecoboost isn't working hard

[@oozk]

I have a feeling that this 30 second method is not always consistent, and I've watched all your videos. It is next to impossible for a modern day car's MPG calculation to be off by that much: fuel injection is duty cycle is very precise, and speedometer (and odometer) simply cannot be off by 20%. Perhaps you should list computer's MPG values normalized with odometer reading of trip (to normalize speedometer error) next to your pump readings. That might give more insight.

[@beast11135]

What about the difference In the fuel tanks?

[@sawboatsndarmwrestling]

Surprising results ? How ? First computer trip mileage is well explained by mfg: it’s an approximation. Second : the gmc weight almost 1000 pounds more.

[@KingAlphaLion81]

Jeff G that really impressed me the most, that is one heavy SUV with a V8. The ultimate family hauler and it wins out.

[@GoldenNada]

I think they are surprised because the Ecoboost or what it stands for it to get better fuel economy by using a smaller engine and turbo charging it but even now it only seems to match power out put at the expense of reliability and mpg because the GMC weights more so all things being equal it's safe to say the 6.2 is more fuel efficient than the 3.5 Ecoboost.

[@dustintunis9347]

Christopher Weaver - TFLT has tested the Ecoboost, I don't remember if it was the 2.7 or 3.5, against the 5.0 coyote in the f150 towing and the 5.0 won on MPGs.

[@fr3ddywr0ng31]

Go to the start of the vid the ford sits on 70 mph and the gm sits on 65 mph . Bit of sabotage there cant bull shit your way out of this one g

[@Quazi83]

Still can't believe how rubbish the fuel is in north America. In the UK our regular fuel is 95 octane but with can get 100 octane!! Love your videos TFL 👍 Fan from the UK.

[@jessiehodges1513]

What's the gcvwr between either set ups because I'll bet everything the Yukon weighs more as a fully loaded SUV, no aluminum body and a shorter gear ratio. It's impressive it did as well as it did.

[@anthonywebber2211]

for the yukon is 15,400 lbs heres the ones for the F150 15800 15900 16000 16200 17100 17100 17100 17100 i couldn't find the specific model they tested

[@johng4527]

I think that what jessie wanted to know was the actual curb weight of the vehicles, not the gross combined weight rating. And as far as that goes, I would bet that the yukon is about a 1000lbs heavier than that F150.

[@anthonywebber2211]

GCVWR stands for Gross Combined Vehicle Weight Rating

[@anthonywebber2211]

curb weight for the F-150 is 4,851 lbs. curb weight for a regular yukon is 5742 lbs the XL they used is heavier

[@AllendeNL]

You did the math wrong on the ecoboost. You put into the calculator 10.24 instead of 10.72

[@thrillschills679]

But there’s the drag coefficient on the f150 with the bed so the testing isn’t set up even for the experiment almost like apples and oranges there two different vehicles but y’all should compare the expedition and then the Denali

[@timjohnson6189]

You’re absolutely correct it’s not apples to apples you should have compared the Ford to the new Colorado.

[@MrSupersaiyangoku]

Not surprising. GM knows V8's are the go to engines. Those 6.2 liter engines were made to work. Unlike Ford who actually thought a twin turbo V6 was a good idea for a full sized pickup or SUV

[@MrSupersaiyangoku]

tamenga88 exactly. Plus. Nobody asked them for the ecoboost engines. They thought they knew what was best. Never make choices for your customers FORD.

[@dannyrbailey]

Hell yeah still own a 2005 Sierra 1500 SLT 5.3

[@logicalrationalfishing7481]

Ecoboost engines evolved from V8's, they weren't created.

[@beefstew5608]

Servant of JESUS CHRIST it's called downsizing and it's the way of the future. Ford will be so far ahead of the curve between the aluminum and smaller displacement engines putting out as much power as gm's outdated v8's

[@pwillieb1124]

Daniel Dean h

[@bobforce8317]

I really enjoyed this video! Thanks

[@dennisgt479]

395000 subs, nicely done. Keep up the good work.

[@TheDaltonmichaels]

i suggest a snug fitting rubber cap over where the gas cap would go.

[@doctorqwerty5753]

isn’t this the same 10 speed transmission Ford and General motors collaborated on??

[@timothymdeturk4140]

These guys are BIAS!

[@RedDeadSpearhead]

Griping about the mirrors, it's an SUV, just gotta wait for the 10 speed in the Sierra and Silverado, or put tow mirrors on, which it'll add 5 horsepower each anyway

[@regsparkes6507]

O.K. you did the comparison, but I only wish it was done with truck to truck. I do like the looks of that 'Suburban' though! If I win the lottery, I'm going to make a sales rep. somewhere, happy.

[@hollowayar]

The computer calculated MPG on my chevy work truck is always optimistically high vs the real world numbers

[@anthonyc1883]

Andre at 8:58: "And the (MPG) computer was off in this." But of course. I have yet to drive a car with an MPG calculator that doesn't OVERstate the amount of mileage I'm getting. Even if it's only a little off, it's always off in favor of making the manufacturer look better than the reality.

[@TFLtruck]

We had several trucks that nearly nailed the MPG as compared to the trip computer.

[@chevygmc3086]

That one beautiful gmc

[@mylord1966]

Chevy v8. Wooooo hooooo, give me the 5.0 coyote over non Eco boost any day.

[@Cliff00936]

There is plenty of videos on this KZbin thingy that tells you that octane levels are BS from the factory recommendations. Higher octane doesn't mean anything.

[@zach4321]

LOL at the iPhone not fitting in the center console;s wireless charging tray in the GMC.

[@cinder9950]

Remind me again why I would want a high maintenance 6 cylinder over a big reliable pushrod v8?

[@trevorc5477]

High maintenance?

[@Slam10]

Trevor C I’m guessing once something goes bad with the eco boost $$$$$$ to repair , if you have warranty your fine but once it goes out trade it in for a new one with warranty lol , the 6.2 and been proven reliable but if u a ford guy the 5.0 I a great engine over the eco boost in term of reliability

[@henrytapia9215]

cinder 99 To smoke big v8s with ease.

[@user-yj1wo7qb5o]

16 thousand reasons

[@aRANDOMqUICKIEgunsandfun]

I think the Ford ecoboost may be another more reliable now that they get port and direct injection. Will help with carbon build up but they still need catch cans and larger intercoolers.

[@markshock2254]

GMC looks like a hearse

[@shroom9033]

Similar 10 speeds. They are identical parts on the inside. Just different case and programming. Gm co- developed the 10 speed with ford. I other words helped Ford pay for test and development which is why Ford version was out 1 year earlier. While ford was making their transmission gm bought the rights to the internal parts and then had to design a case and program it.

[@donbishow5497]

It's the same transmission, Ford and G M co-developed it.

[@damiangrouse4564]

~$20k more for 0.02mpg improvement!? Don’t worry folks...that pesky hitch cover won’t ever be removed by 90% of owners: Soccers moms texting down the road.

[@Mrjoecreeper]

It's not $20k more just for fuel economy lmao. One's a luxury SUV while the other is a "luxury" truck.

[@djcordes4352]

Hilarious comment! Every fing one of them seems to text down the road. Having to travel each day for work quickly showed me that was almost an epidemic. Kids in the car and I’d lay on the horn and the wouldn’t even flinch and I drive an SUV!

[@kylezal2509]

Compare the Lincoln Navigators price, this video was just for the engine comparison.

[@anthonywebber2211]

Damian Grouse pretty bad when a heavier vehicle with the bigger engine gets better gas mileage

[@tristanscott8977]

This comment just made my day!! Haha