"Does A Good God Exist?" Debate - Christopher Hitchens' Parts

[@JumpingJax100]

Christopher Hitchens, known for his razor-sharp intellect and unyielding criticism, was also a person of remarkable generosity. Despite his reputation as a contrarian and a fierce debater, Hitchens displayed a deep compassion for others that often went unnoticed. In his personal life, Hitchens extended his generosity to friends, acquaintances, and even strangers. He was always willing to lend a helping hand, offer advice, or provide support when needed. Whether it was assisting fellow writers, aiding political dissidents, or standing up for the oppressed, Hitchens consistently championed causes he believed in. Moreover, Hitchens was not only generous with his time and resources but also with his ideas. He shared his vast knowledge and perspectives freely, engaging in spirited debates and discussions that enriched the intellectual landscape. His prolific writing, spanning numerous books, articles, and speeches, served as a testament to his generosity of thought. Even in the face of his own battle with cancer, Hitchens remained magnanimous, expressing gratitude for the support he received and using his platform to raise awareness about the disease. His ability to empathize with others and his unwavering commitment to the pursuit of truth exemplified his extraordinary generosity. Christopher Hitchens' generosity, often overshadowed by his controversial persona, was a testament to the complexity of his character. His acts of kindness, both big and small, left an indelible mark on those who encountered his benevolence, reminding us that even the most outspoken critics can possess a remarkably generous spirit.

[@jeffforsythe9514]

So you were swept away by him. To me, he was a sour, bitter alcoholic. He enjoyed destroying people's faith, and for me, faith is something required for each and every one of us to get in touch with the part of us which is Divine.

[@JumpingJax100]

@@jeffforsythe9514 Faith can provide a "sense" of meaning and purpose, but it isn't a reliable path to objective truth. Truth often relies on evidence and reason.

[@ShikataGaNai100]

@@jeffforsythe9514 Ooh, we all feel the "love of God" in your comment.

[@AlicedeTocqueville]

Having just walked up to him a few times and asked him questions, (one of the advantages of living in a big city), I can attest to his openness and generosity.

[@ronamain8689]

I'm 64 and just discovered Christopher. Sadly, I didn't hear him earlier but I will pass his lectures and genius to my family and friends. Please others do same!❤

[@mariemcmahonmcmahon1810]

Some times I get low in mood and I listen to Christopher hitchins talks and I realise. Life is what you make it. Such a learned man.

[@georget.9496]

Same here, nicely said.

[@scooterallen1834]

To a point. But to deny a creator is pointless

[@cthreetwo]

@@scooterallen1834pointless in what way? Elaborate on your point so that I don’t have to presume that you are just another benighted human on this earth

[@SergiuCosminViorel]

yeah, and he knew how to make his life good. I have nothing against him being atheist, as am not for any god and any religion, but he still, among smart things he said, he also said a lot of crap. His good life was not for the smart things he plead for, but for working so well for the neocons. Hitchens is not an excellent atheist, not as much as he is an excellent neocon.

[@johnheath4305]

@@SergiuCosminViorel please expound. I never agreed with all his politics, but I’m a little vacant on the idea of him as a neocon.

[@raphaelluwi6543]

Religion instills fear in men but Hitchens frees your mind.

[@James-ns3zi]

This is totally wrong. Go back and try it again.

[@davidblackburn3396]

​@@James-ns3zi You poor pitiful frightened child. "Oh no, if there is no master whose slave will I be?"

[@johnroemeeks]

Hitchens frees your mind to live in sin and in rebellion against a superior authority by suppressing your conscience. You can try to deceive yourself but that doesn't change truth. This is God's world, There Are Rules. Life isn't about being a hedonist, and life is not about YOU! Sin against a Holy God has severe consequences. Just look at Hitchens in this video. That's how serious sin is. It's the death penalty. No matter how much you lie to yourself and claim to be free you're actually a slave to sin and a slave to the devil who will send you right to hell with him. Jesus said I am the way the truth and the life no one comes to the father but by me. He said and the truth will set you free. True Freedom is freedom from the hold of sin and death. Without Jesus, you are not free, you only think you are. There's No Escaping Judgement Day. When that day comes then you tell me that you are free

[@messier8769]

He did this while undergoing chemotherapy. Brave and strong man

[@scooterallen1834]

Correct. He couldn’t admit that a creator exists.

[@crossingdragon]

@@scooterallen1834Correct. Because there is no such thing.

[@derrickcox7761]

brave doesn't make you smart.

[@FlyingSpaghettiMonster2000]

​@@derrickcox7761luckily being smart made him smart.

[@apophenic_]

​@scooterallen1834 haha, you are such a loser

[@thechocablockman]

Even though he was ill his brilliant mind never lost its sharpness. The world needs more like Christopher Hitchens

[@2fast2block]

He was never sharp. Hitch who pretends to know the bible as he screws up on it over and over again including what faith means biblically. --"Faith is the surrender of the mind, it's the surrender of reason, it's the surrender of the only thing that makes us different from other animals. It's our need to believe and to surrender our skepticism and our reason, our yearning to discard that and put all our trust or faith in someone or something, that is the sinister thing to me. ... Out of all the virtues, all the supposed virtues, faith must be the most overrated”-- Christopher Hitchens Now, look at what biblical faith really means that Hitch the liar didn't even look at: Biblically, faith means trust. It's a trust by evidence seen. God asks that we prove things. To reason. To get knowledge. To study. God has nothing to hide. We develop trust from what is seen, and that which is not seen yet is trusted also because of the trust built up from what is seen. It's much like a human relationship. We don't trust much until a person has gained that trust from what is observed. The difference is though, God is not limited to human powers. He created us. Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYuqk4aoq6qEgtE crossexamined.org/biblical-faith-vs-blind-faith/ www.truthortradition.com/articles/what-does-the-bible-say-about-faith www.revisedenglishversion.com/Appendix/16/Faith_is_Trust www.truthortradition.com/articles/faith-a-confident-expectation-of-gods-promises-coming-to-pass www.truthortradition.com/articles/hebrews-1-11-and-faith Hitchens always went into evasive word antics to avoid key questions like how we got the creation of the universe. Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@thechocablockman]

I am from Ireland, which was a deeply Christian society especially when I was growing up so i know about faith. Why would "god" allow nearly one in four children be sexually abused by clergymen (his clergymen, I say his because that's how the men who wrote the bibles describe him) and women (yes the nuns were involved)? Is it your "gods" plans to have a mass grave full of babies in Tuam in Ireland, the mass unmarked grave being a sewage pit in a mother and baby home? Did your "god" agree the illegal sale of babies by his church? I get you have invested a your life in your faith, so to hear people say it's not true is difficult. It's very bruising to any ego, to see people like me call out how badly its written and how it the obvious meanderings of power hungry men who in many cases seem to be under the influence of hallucinogens. The issue I have with all religious people is not their faith, go ahead and enjoy your faith, I just ask you ALL to leave me alone. I want nor need any part of your fantastical thinking. The only difference between me and you is I believe in one less god, you don't believe in any of the other ones, I don't believe in any of them including yours. I respect your wish to believe in mythology so respect mine not to. But that's the problem with religion, it's designed to control the masses, it doesn't allow for free thinking because if it did it would be called out for what it is, so it keeps thinking it has a right to impose its will on people who want nothing to with it. Thankfully Ireland is no longer a Christian fanatical state and the churches vile grip of destruction is losing its grip with each year, unlike countries like Iran, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia or the USA to mention a few. I will respectfully decline in looking at you clips you have provided, not because I am burying my head but after 18 years of listening to nonsense dogma being preached from the pulpit by sex offenders and snake oil salesman in my early years I have heard enough of it to know its a lie in my life. I do have one question though, why could "gods" prophets not read or write and were illiterate? Surely he should have picked someone who could actual scribe his will to the masses instead of having to use word of mouth, that would have helped prevent all the conflicts we have seen between even the Christians, N Ireland for example? That makes no sense in my mind, but then again, people did believe in desert demons, the world was flat and the sun rotated around the earth back then, to which Galileo was punished for highlighting of course.

[@daviddefusco683]

Anyone who writes God is not great is in for an uncomfortable afterlife.

[@thechocablockman]

@@daviddefusco683 there is most likely no afterlife so the net result is just like if you say God is great, nothing. And you have no evidence to prove otherwise.

[@nudisco300]

@@daviddefusco683 What does that tell you about God?

[@mikemaas82]

The last 3 minutes or so is worth hearing more than once. Thank you for changing my life, Christopher.

[@messiahapostle8239]

Changing your life enroot for HELL!!! God always laughs LAST! Proverbs 1:22-32. You will join him soon.

[@toddlatorreofficial]

Boy do I miss this guy but I still love watching him after all if these years. It's like he is still here when I watch him. What a brilliant mind.

[@notthatdeep6771]

Cancer ridden, on his way out and here he stands STILL committed to enlightening. What an absolute loss to humanity ;-(

[@Karl-Benny]

God wanted him to Educate the Masses

[@notthatdeep6771]

@@Karl-Benny - ((haha)) Good one!

[@rickwyant]

If he'd been smart and avoided smoking and drinking. If he'd paid some attention to his health he could have quite possibly still been with us. He didn't look for the good in anything, made his millions pandering to angry atheists. I'm an atheist but I see that religious thought was a primitive effort to understand the universe. Modern religion may be more about power over people and holding on to it.

[@LundunDansqua]

@@rickwyant he fought back against these cultists. Humanity has suffered enough of religion’s war crimes.

[@truthntelling]

...STILL committed to rebellion.

[@wcstevens7]

Perfect sense, faultless English...Entertaining and educational at the same time...Rest in peace you lovely man.

[@chokin78]

Lovely words!

[@2fast2block]

@@chokin78 as you ignore what I gave showing what a dolt Hitch was.

[@degustablegerbil]

@@2fast2block i hope you find inner peace my guy

[@2fast2block]

@@chokin78 from a nitwit like I showed.

[@2fast2block]

@@degustablegerbil knowledge gives me peace. You can say being braindead like Hitch followers gives peace too, but I don't want a piece of that type of peace.

[@michaelseal6738]

I’m a huge fan. But even his biggest critics couldn’t touch his determination and commitment to his intellectual pursuits. Dying of cancer and facing death . . . He did not waver. What more respectable quality exists than that?

[@truthntelling]

"Dying of cancer and facing death . . . He did not waver. " What more proof of a fool is that? Being impoverished and destroyed in the physical, no science can save him, he continues to mutter the mind's supposed superiority over the spiritual. An ignorant arrogant fool. Jesus have mercy on him.

[@salishaho3194]

This person will be difficult to be forgotten. He gave the world hope and not to fear the religions. I personally miss this great personality.

[@DBEdwards]

Hitchens had some brilliant moments on video. Sadly, this is not one of them.

[@chadjohnson6646]

@@DBEdwards still a brave, real mf tho

[@jeffforsythe9514]

Do you really think that anyone admires the fact that you are a quitter?

[@paulgemme6056]

He gave the world hope if you consider death to be hope. That's all he offered was death. God/Jesus Christ offers life. The gift of God - to know him - eternal life. Now that is hope, faith, love, peace, joy. This sinful world and those who are of the world could never offer the hope that only God/Jesus Christ can give.

[@jeffforsythe9514]

@@paulgemme6056 And now there is a further updating of the message of Jesus......................falundafa

[@jstefani247]

The final 3 minutes must surely be among the finest in all oration

[@kidglort9396]

"Take the risk of thinking for yourself." --- Hitch. This is what so many, I believe, are afraid to do.

[@timefortea1931]

Gosh if only people would do that! Some of us are but so many are not.

[@Aythion]

@Darcen Brandt Thinking for yourself does not mean being opposed to everyone else's arguments or conclusions. Thinking for yourself in this case simply means a negation of thinking dogmatically about a given topic. If the evidence for a phenomenon suggests a certain conlcusion, people who think critically will inevitably arrive at the same conclusion while successfully "thinking for themselves". (Not dogmatically)

[@Aythion]

@Darcen Brandt In other words, thinking for yourself does not equal to thinking differently (in opposition to everything, as you put it).

[@SeaJay_Oceans]

“Now, Kalamas, don’t go by reports, by legends, by traditions, by scripture, by logical conjecture, by inference, by analogies, by agreement through pondering views, by probability, or by the thought, ‘This contemplative is our teacher.’ When you know for yourselves that, ‘These qualities are skillful; these qualities are blameless; these qualities are praised by the wise; these qualities, when adopted & carried out, lead to welfare & to happiness’ - then you should enter & remain in them.” www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/an/an03/an03.065.than.html

[@JPX7NGD]

Pity hitchens only ever did so near de*ath as he finally questioned his absurd atheism.

[@lorettabridges7751]

I play this again and again. I love his voice and clarity.

[@appledough3843]

He's very foolish unfortunately

[@fibonacimike4110]

@@appledough3843 who is foolish and why?

[@DannyBoy777777]

​@appledough3843 Hitchens' Razor - that which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Go away, child.

[@Ashoerchen]

@@fibonacimike4110 Interestingly enough, appledough3843 was not capable to provide even a glimpse of an answer to a question that should not have been too much for him. Obviously, it was.

[@woodytheduke]

@@appledough3843 why you watching then godboy?

[@briannorth2857]

I've been watching Christopher Hitchens videos and debates for several days now. It was only in this moment, or rather a moment ago after reading the comments, I realized Mr. Hitchens had passed. Made me unusually sad... missing a man I've only just met, and, for all intents and purposes, just lost too.

[@d1ver9e]

It is sad, indeed. I learned he had passed before I watched his videos and read his books, yet it hurts exactly the same.

[@DMRoper1]

Same here.

[@flamingdeathgoat]

Hits me everytime I rewatch a debate, his points are only more relevant years after his death. While religiosity as a whole is falling in America, those who are still religious are getting louder and louder and bolder and still louder trying to meld church and State because they know in the back of their minds compulsory religion is the only way religion will keep going.

[@kibblesnbits9146]

@@flamingdeathgoat and they long fir power and control. They hate freedom, and those that personify freedom from their tyranny

[@karensimons9260]

Btian North; i think i can understand. Once i got a, peek into his wisdom and experience, it was very difficult to know that amazing mind would teach no more! Aaarrrggghhh!!!! His brother also us gifted but delivery different.

[@peterjordaan4090]

I bow my head in appreciation to Christopher Hitchens, over the last 4 years listening to him on KZbin I knew I was on the right track. His mastery of the English language and his Insight into the big lie of religion..... I stand in AWE

[@paulSmith-te8gq]

Big Lie is right!

[@MrDOB1000]

The only lie is atheism. There's no such thing as no religion - they act like religious zealots

[@AllansStation]

The man states the truth.

[@Brandon-tk2rw]

on the contrary, doesnt his life sort of prove that you shouldn't f with God???

[@John-cc4rk]

@@Brandon-tk2rw what about "his life"? confused

[@Aydinmakesmusic]

If there’s one thing I admire about Hitch it’s that no matter what unexpected battles you may face in life. Whilst you draw breath keep on fighting and living, carry on and cross every bridge one step at a time. A beautiful teacher, humanist, orator and inspiration.

[@2fast2block]

He was a loser, period. A horrible example. Hitch who pretends to know the bible as he screws up on it over and over again including what faith means biblically. --"Faith is the surrender of the mind, it's the surrender of reason, it's the surrender of the only thing that makes us different from other animals. It's our need to believe and to surrender our skepticism and our reason, our yearning to discard that and put all our trust or faith in someone or something, that is the sinister thing to me. ... Out of all the virtues, all the supposed virtues, faith must be the most overrated”-- Christopher Hitchens Now, look at what biblical faith really means that Hitch the liar didn't even look at: Biblically, faith means trust. It's a trust by evidence seen. God asks that we prove things. To reason. To get knowledge. To study. God has nothing to hide. We develop trust from what is seen, and that which is not seen yet is trusted also because of the trust built up from what is seen. It's much like a human relationship. We don't trust much until a person has gained that trust from what is observed. The difference is though, God is not limited to human powers. He created us. Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. crossexamined.org/biblical-faith-vs-blind-faith/ www.truthortradition.com/articles/what-does-the-bible-say-about-faith www.revisedenglishversion.com/Appendix/16/Faith_is_Trust www.truthortradition.com/articles/faith-a-confident-expectation-of-gods-promises-coming-to-pass www.truthortradition.com/articles/hebrews-1-11-and-faith Hitchens always went into evasive word antics to avoid key questions like how we got the creation of the universe. Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@Isaac-jl6hq]

@@2fast2block nothing says that you’re a good Christian more than judging someone who it isn’t your right to judge

[@2fast2block]

@@Isaac-jl6hq too bad for you, it's so easy to show what a loser Hitch was and you don't want that to be known. Well F you. You're just a loser who has no idea of what you're talking about. -----As children of God who want to glorify our heavenly Father and our Lord Jesus Christ, we are constantly required to distinguish between truth and error, light and darkness, good and evil, love and hate, spiritual realities and spiritual counterfeits. This often takes place in interaction with other people, both Christian and non-Christian. God’s Word often exhorts us to press in, speak up, reprove and “interrupt” those whose lives are heading in a wrong direction. Yet often when we do, we hear something like: “Stop being so judgmental;” “Judge not lest you be judged;” “Go ahead, if you want to live in that judgment.” Such rebuttals can make us less aggressive in future situations and shut down genuine dialogue at the expense of helping another person and edifying the Body of Christ. Let us go to God’s Word and see if we can find the answer to the question: To judge or not to judge? The basic Greek word translated judge is krino, which comes from the Greek word krisis, transliterated into English as “crisis.” The definition of a crisis is interesting: “the turning point for better or worse in a disease; the point of time when it is decided whether an affair or course of action shall proceed, be modified, or terminated.” A crisis, therefore, is a decisive moment. The word krino means “to divide; to separate; to make a distinction, either positive or negative (to pronounce sentence after examining).” Look at its uses in the following verses: John 12:44-48 (44) Then Jesus cried out, “When a man believes in me, he does not believe in me only, but in the one who sent me. (45) When he looks at me, he sees the one who sent me. (46) I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness. (47) “As for the person who hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge [krino] him. For I did not come to judge [krino] the world, but to save it. (48) There is a judge [krino] for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day. Here we see that the Word of God is the one and only true standard for judgment. That is why knowing it-accurately-is so vital. Consider this verse: Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. The King James Version translates part of that verse by saying that the Word of God “is a discerner” of the thoughts and intents of the heart. The word for discerner is kritikos. In English, a “critic” is “one who expresses a reasoned opinion on a matter, involving a judgment of its value, truth, or righteousness.” Hebrews 4:12 is a fabulous verse, and in it we can see that the Word of God not only reveals my transgression (the act), but also my iniquity (the heart behind the act). What is in me too often goes across (trans) to others. But here’s the problem: my perspective of the Word of God can be distorted. Therefore it could be that what I think it says is not what it really says, and in that case it cannot do for me what Hebrews 4:12 speaks about. This is one reason I personally want many mature Christian counselors in my life. I (and you) am constantly required to judge one thing after another, and I want to do it right. John 7:21-24 (21) Jesus said to them, “I did one miracle, and you are all astonished. (22) Yet, because Moses gave you circumcision (though actually it did not come from Moses, but from the patriarchs), you circumcise a child on the Sabbath. (23) Now if a child can be circumcised on the Sabbath so that the law of Moses may not be broken, why are you angry with me for healing the whole man on the Sabbath? (24) Stop judging by mere appearances, and make a right judgment.” We see from Jesus’ words here that we are most definitely to judge, but we are not to judge by our own perceptions or opinions. Rather, we are to judge by the Word of God. As I said earlier, most of our judgments involve interaction with people. We are to judge people’s words and deeds by the Word of God, and in so doing we must separate the sin from the sinner. This helps us reserve judgments on someone’s heart and give him the benefit of the doubt, at least until we have enough facts, and that may take a while. As Oswald Chambers says, “There is always one more fact in every man’s case about which I know nothing.” Consider the following verses: Romans 16:17 and 18 (17) I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them. (18) For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people. 3 John 1:9-12 (9) I wrote to the church, but Diotrephes, who loves to be first, will have nothing to do with us. (10) So if I come, I will call attention to what he is doing, gossiping maliciously about us. Not satisfied with that, he refuses to welcome the brothers. He also stops those who want to do so and puts them out of the church. (11) Dear friend, do not imitate what is evil but what is good. Anyone who does what is good is from God. Anyone who does what is evil has not seen God. (12) Demetrius is well spoken of by everyone-and even by the truth itself. We also speak well of him, and you know that our testimony is true. Again we see that the Word of God (the truth) is the only standard by which to judge anything. In the following verse, notice that the Apostle Paul expected people to judge even what he said to them.

[@jeffforsythe9514]

Fighting who or what? Life is about seeking God and being kind and compassionate. Just my understanding

[@jeffforsythe9514]

Your hero is an arrogant alcoholic, my hero is the Lord, sorry.

[@mihaelatudor2417]

Every now and again I go to youtube searching for Christopher Hitches......he makes me feel good about the human species....I really need that lately......Thank you Hitch💕

[@optimus1212]

@David Burrey I liked Hitch, but he is dead now and Jesus is alive.

[@theodorepapatheodorou4679]

@@optimus1212 bad bad joke, especially when the one lived and the other is a fiction of fantasy

[@davidblackburn3396]

@@optimus1212 Right, Jesus is alive and he saves his money, as the old song goes, at the Chase Manhattan Bank. I wish you the best of luck in your ongoing struggle with reality.

[@davidblackburn3396]

@David Burrey Frank Turek? Seriously? That clown? Oh, sir, the company you keep. I see that you and reality are almost total strangers, with your claimed ability to read Hitch's mind and all. Good luck with that. The worst kind of ignorance is the willful kind.

[@MOGGS1942]

@@optimus1212 You ignoramus, not to mention deluded.

[@HaleG9]

I am 52 years old and it took me that long to find a brother in mind (arms). Brilliantly sharp thinking and great language for what he thinks.

[@stephensaunders4668]

I am in awe of the patience of the man and his intellectual discipline in the face of the indefensible. Continually surprised that his arguments need to be made more than once.

[@bernaldelcastillo1768]

This was a year before he died. He was a great orator and writer, a consummate defender of atheism and a contrarian speaker in other themes, sometimes opposing and rejecting established ideas and beliefs. He was a free thinker and a non conformist. Christopher was unique and very much missed.

[@jeffforsythe9514]

People who become atheists have lost touch with their own Divinity. How do they get back in touch, good question because they usually do not want to, pretty sad.

[@nash984954]

Not anyone to replace his grand explanations either, of course, no replacement exists for him, he was so terribly unique.

[@viu1558]

not really. he just recited everything others had already said. and he wasn't "atheist" at all. in fact he was so extremist Christin that he could be a terrorist.

[@pedrozee78]

He wasn't a great 'atheist', he was a great purveyor of his own opinion. He was a great champion of Bush's invasion of Iraq, he was at times a bitter man with Fantastic eloquents. But he was deep down a defender of the downtrodden. To say he was a great atheist, is poor reading.

[@viu1558]

@@pedrozee78 , we he was just a disguised Nazi.

[@yuli2220]

What a giant of a man! We need more people like him. Respect.

[@2fast2block]

What a loser. Hitch who pretends to know the bible as he screws up on it over and over again including what faith means biblically. --"Faith is the surrender of the mind, it's the surrender of reason, it's the surrender of the only thing that makes us different from other animals. It's our need to believe and to surrender our skepticism and our reason, our yearning to discard that and put all our trust or faith in someone or something, that is the sinister thing to me. ... Out of all the virtues, all the supposed virtues, faith must be the most overrated”-- Christopher Hitchens Now, look at what biblical faith really means that Hitch the liar didn't even look at: Biblically, faith means trust. It's a trust by evidence seen. God asks that we prove things. To reason. To get knowledge. To study. God has nothing to hide. We develop trust from what is seen, and that which is not seen yet is trusted also because of the trust built up from what is seen. It's much like a human relationship. We don't trust much until a person has gained that trust from what is observed. The difference is though, God is not limited to human powers. He created us. Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. crossexamined.org/biblical-faith-vs-blind-faith/ www.truthortradition.com/articles/what-does-the-bible-say-about-faith www.revisedenglishversion.com/Appendix/16/Faith_is_Trust www.truthortradition.com/articles/faith-a-confident-expectation-of-gods-promises-coming-to-pass www.truthortradition.com/articles/hebrews-1-11-and-faith Hitchens always went into evasive word antics to avoid key questions like how we got the creation of the universe. Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@alexhalsell1991]

@@2fast2block your ignorance kills me

[@2fast2block]

@@alexhalsell1991 oh, your detail is amazing. I bet you came up with that all by your tiny loser self. You can go back to your cartoons now.

[@alexhalsell1991]

@@2fast2block hostile huh? And it’s pop up coloring books by the way.

[@2fast2block]

@@alexhalsell1991 oh, your detail is amazing. I bet you came up with that all by your tiny loser self. You can go back to your cartoons now.

[@truthaboveall7988]

I truly believe Hitch is stardust & sprinkling his wisdom on us now & every time someone tunes in to his brilliant talks I 4 one am grateful to have been able to hear him

[@jameshogan6142]

He is probably a black hole.

[@rosieokelly]

Sounds like you think his life has meaning beyond earth😮

[@nealgrimes4382]

@@rosieokelly It's reference to the fact that we all have a type of carbon in us that can only be found in dying stars.

[@Alan-71351]

😂Oh come on! Whilst living, if he heard you saying that's what he'd do after his demise, he ver well may have slapped you!😂

[@dirtypickle77]

An idea that he himself wouldn't have agreed with.

[@timhill444]

A very gifted and wise human being. He encapsulates the hope of all true humans, to evolve to a species that will shed the garments of politics, religion, before it annihilates itself

[@primus7776]

Thank Providence that this gentle man has left a magnificent legacy of writings, and total ownership of every debate he has ever been invited to. This Man is an Education in, and of himself.

[@rosieokelly]

Magnificent 🙄

[@glutinousmaximus]

Christopher Hitchens made a large impact on my thinking throughout the years. So witty, so knowledgeable, so quick to grasp the direction of conversation and riposte if necessary. He is much missed.

[@2fast2block]

You are to blame for accepting that loser. Hitch who pretends to know the bible as he screws up on it over and over again including what faith means biblically. --"Faith is the surrender of the mind, it's the surrender of reason, it's the surrender of the only thing that makes us different from other animals. It's our need to believe and to surrender our skepticism and our reason, our yearning to discard that and put all our trust or faith in someone or something, that is the sinister thing to me. ... Out of all the virtues, all the supposed virtues, faith must be the most overrated”-- Christopher Hitchens Now, look at what biblical faith really means that Hitch the liar didn't even look at: Biblically, faith means trust. It's a trust by evidence seen. God asks that we prove things. To reason. To get knowledge. To study. God has nothing to hide. We develop trust from what is seen, and that which is not seen yet is trusted also because of the trust built up from what is seen. It's much like a human relationship. We don't trust much until a person has gained that trust from what is observed. The difference is though, God is not limited to human powers. He created us. Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. crossexamined.org/biblical-faith-vs-blind-faith/ www.truthortradition.com/articles/what-does-the-bible-say-about-faith www.revisedenglishversion.com/Appendix/16/Faith_is_Trust www.truthortradition.com/articles/faith-a-confident-expectation-of-gods-promises-coming-to-pass www.truthortradition.com/articles/hebrews-1-11-and-faith Hitchens always went into evasive word antics to avoid key questions like how we got the creation of the universe. Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@bravo2zero796]

@@2fast2block lol your going to hell

[@2fast2block]

@@bravo2zero796 no, your lies will not stop your destination.

[@lumpheadthump]

@@2fast2block It’s always adorable when faith heads try to intellectualize their nonsense. You’re obviously not bright enough to understand anything Hitchens said, which is why you were an easy target for religious indoctrination.

[@jeffforsythe9514]

One does not find God by debating, it is through seeking. I did for 35 years and then received His Divine Blessing 17 years ago. Just my understanding. "I find it hard to believe how quickly people give up on their quest for the divine"..............................Abe Lincoln.

[@PAULLUKES]

Wish this gentleman was still with us. We need him more now than ever!

[@DBEdwards]

Lest I say. Compulsory love is not diabolic or evil as Hitchens claims. Rather it is the hope of all mankind

[@PaulOReilly712]

@@boriskogan7903 But he was wrong and Jesus is right :D He would blame God for it !Though Jesus went about doing good and they nailed him to a cross At his trial he was not found guilty of any crime, !hink it through, What do you say about that ? He denied Jesus now he has met him on the other side of death and unfortunately he entered the gates of Hell and saw the message on the gate written above "abandon all hope all who enter here! "don't follow him to terror. Hope not to offend you ! just show the reasons why he was wrong. follow him to safety VVVVVVV John 14:6 New International Version 6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

[@DBEdwards]

We have too many agnostics and not enough God FEARING CITIZENS. I respect Hitchens as a Polemic. CHRISTOHER HITCHENS WAS A RESOLUTE ARSEHOLE AS A RELIGIOUS ZEALOT

[@DBEdwards]

@@boriskogan7903 Christopher would say he's wormmeat now and has no future

[@DBEdwards]

WHEN YOU SELL YER SOUL YOU HAVE NOTHING LEFT. CHRISTOPHER HITCHENS SOLD HIS SOUL TO THE DEVIL

[@jonq8714]

One of my heros. I miss Hitch. His closing statement was brilliant.

[@cole3835]

His very existence was brilliant

[@corb5654]

@The Bibliognost And yet people will continue to marvel at him while you stretch your little brain around the bullshit in the bible. How's that talking donkey working for you?

[@DBEdwards]

I own a gold Canadian Maple leaf that is more brilliant

[@jeffforsythe9514]

Who's another of your heros, Mao?

[@steveowen7475]

simply the greatest oratory performance sublime in every area.... compelling ......so sorely missed No one close.,.... Christopher blows the myths that have created the biggest open prison in the shape of organised religion..... absolutely essential

[@stuart5618]

One of the greatest orators of all time. he talked so much sense. we miss you hitch

[@janechapman5114]

We really, really do. 🐶🦊🐀💕. I adore animals too!

[@savedbygrace8337]

You’ll see him again ,he is the one in the flaming red suit!

[@dr.rickmarshall6697]

@@savedbygrace8337 no that's your mom.

[@allahjr.8522]

@@savedbygrace8337 XXX jihaddhism?

[@jeffforsythe9514]

Being an atheist only means that one has lost touch with one's own Divinity, why do you admire that so much?

[@scottcates]

When Hitchens mops the floor with Dembski, the warm light of reason and rationality bathes me in its splendor.

[@stevejoshua9536]

So he comforts you in your chosen Godlessness ?

[@lanzi655]

Yes he is so honest and clear, very straight and not worry to tell the troughs. Respect and so thankfully, I did learned a lot still do.

[@kidroid2317]

@@stevejoshua9536 There is no god. If I'm wrong, may he strike you dead.

[@kristinahollie]

I Love Htchens and feel SO lucky to have lived during his lifetime. His voice was (is) vital for people who came from religion and never understood how it could all be true. LOVE his books and him.

[@michaellabbe2873]

I’ve been reading and paying attention to Hitchens since 2006 or so and I go back now and again to admire. His final few minutes in this debate are of such a marvel that I listen often, just as I do his Toronto speech on Freedom of Expression. He was a wonder.

[@UrbanTaxi99]

It must have been so frustrating to have to debate this in the 21st century, such patience.

[@notsocrates9529]

You'd be executed in a lot of other time periods for heresy and/or blasphemy. I would argue there has never been a better time to be a contrarian edgy atheist than in the modern era.

[@jacobjorgenson9285]

And to debate Tony Blair the vapid war criminal

[@rays2794]

One of the great minds of all time.

[@DBEdwards]

Albert Einsteins was better

[@alexgravelle164]

​@@DBEdwards​​ what a throw-away comment. You've no possible way of knowing whether or not that is true; and what a pointless, facetious reply.

[@Mercy-Willmar]

I dearly miss Christopher Hitchens. I have yet to hear another speaker that is his equal. We are all the less fortunate for his passing.

[@ryandelmar7969]

@Hans Jürgen Vetter You worship the high priest of the military industrial complex, and don't see the hypocrisy?

[@2fast2block]

The dumb bitch Hitch is one less dumbass is all. Hitch who pretends to know the bible as he screws up on it over and over again including what faith means biblically. ---"Faith is the surrender of the mind, it's the surrender of reason, it's the surrender of the only thing that makes us different from other animals. It's our need to believe and to surrender our skepticism and our reason, our yearning to discard that and put all our trust or faith in someone or something, that is the sinister thing to me. ... Out of all the virtues, all the supposed virtues, faith must be the most overrated”--- Christopher Hitchens Now, look at what biblical faith really means that Hitch the dumbass didn't even look at: Biblically, faith means trust. It's a trust by evidence seen. God asks that we prove things. To reason. To get knowledge. To study. God has nothing to hide. We develop trust from what is seen, and that which is not seen yet is trusted also because of the trust built up from what is seen. It's much like a human relationship. We don't trust much until a person has gained that trust from what is observed. The difference is though, God is not limited to human powers. He created us. Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. crossexamined.org/biblical-faith-vs-blind-faith/ www.truthortradition.com/articles/what-does-the-bible-say-about-faith www.revisedenglishversion.com/Appendix/16/Faith_is_Trust www.truthortradition.com/articles/faith-a-confident-expectation-of-gods-promises-coming-to-pass www.truthortradition.com/articles/hebrews-1-11-and-faith Hitchens always went into evasive word farting to avoid key questions like how we got the creation of the universe. Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God. Only fools follow dumbass Hitchens.

[@Brianbeesandbikes]

@@ryandelmar7969 Missing CH's challenge of religious dogma is not worshiping. Yes CH failed to address how western kkkristians created the mid east mess and rise of MIC (or more accurately the MICIMATT (Military-Industrial-Congressional-Intelligence-Media-Academia-Think-Tank Complex) kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6TVlqR_rrZ6f5Y , but it's a mistake to throw the babe out with bathwater. Chris Hedges offers a far more balanced view in this regard, getting to the roots of conflict.

[@barracuda7018]

I couldn't agree more...

[@2fast2block]

@@Brianbeesandbikes great job ignoring what I wrote.

[@francisj.opolko3728]

Hitchens spent his life trying to explain why we are good without religious interference. More accurately why man can achieve moral authority in spite of religious interference…

[@WildPhotoShooter]

It is indeed a privilege to listen to greatness, one of the greatest thinkers to grace the earth and us with his deep knowledge, and with a superb style of delivery.

[@gledatelj1979]

If you have a non existant brain activity then the simplest and the most stupid arguments will be impressive.

[@WildPhotoShooter]

Vlado S Yes you are correct in your own case, who in their right mind would believe a virgin can have a baby and base a whole religion on that ? Who could believe that Joseph NEVER had sex with his own wife Mary, c'mon, Joseph was the farther of Marys baby get your brain thinking man !

[@ChillAssTurtle]

@@WildPhotoShooter or he got cucked

[@davidchrist1037]

@@WildPhotoShooter Without a lot of magical thinking, and acceptance of such far out, crazy stories Christianity would have floundered centuries ago.

[@WildPhotoShooter]

@@davidchrist1037 Yes ,the reason Christianity ( and religion in general ) didn't flounder centuries ago is because illiterate, uneducated people were gullible enough to believe the far out, crazy stories that the church was preaching and forcing those people to believe it all on pain of death.

[@bubbercakes528]

Christopher Hitchens will forever be alive in great hearts and minds across our lowly sphere.

[@upturnedblousecollar5811]

They'll be quoting Christopher 200 years from now.

[@AntitheistHuman]

@@upturnedblousecollar5811 I fear this religion dogma indoctrination won't stop by itself, the little groups with rational thinking must do something, I fear religion is the ultimate end of our kind

[@MrCanis4]

@@upturnedblousecollar5811 “You don't need faith when you have proof.” I will continue to use this one.

[@Kwippy]

Why is it that when Hitchens debate distinguished professors and other PhD's, luminaries of academia, why he, a mere journalist, seem much more well-read, better educated, than all of them.

[@EeekiE]

An educated man talking to a religion American, from a country where religion and superstition gets its dick sucked 24/7 as part of the culture, and holds religious leaders in very high regard in society is why it’s so easy for him.

[@lancethrustworthy]

I agree with you. My explanation is that Hitchens, as part of his professional work, spent much time polishing what he said in his writing, whereas professors mainly care about understanding and advancing of defeating the concept/hypothesis themselves, not manicuring it for the masses....maybe.

[@ryandelmar7969]

Because you,are a total moron, and buy into his pompous act.

[@calebfleming123]

he's wasn't just a journalist

[@matsbjur2535]

Because there’s a huge difference between “read”, and “read and understood”. What makes both Hitchens and Dawkins great f ex, is their cross-fields competence and great capacity to express it and give the audience new or deepened understanding. They combine very high intellect and capability of expression with understandings of several fields of competence such as history, study of religions, evolutionary biology, astrophysics other fields of science and last but not least philosophy. They reason and express their thoughts processes together with logic conclusions and most if not all of the time they simply smash the competition.

[@Kyryyn_Lyyh]

The example of hunters and elephants was wonderful. I’ve been grappling with a solid example of that argument recently. What a man.

[@LexProntera]

Yes! One of my favorite examples of visible evolution within human lifetime. Another is the nylon-eating bacterium. Another is the Lenski E.coli evolution experiment. Another is Italian wall lizards introduced to a tiny Croatian island evolving adaptations to eat plants. It's easy to google them.

[@HopeforFuture23]

For a better world, we need more Christopher Hitchens

[@jeffforsythe9514]

You think that we need more dead drunks leading us to hell, not me.

[@HopeforFuture23]

@@jeffforsythe9514 Oh, really? I don't think so!

[@andresacostaescobar]

I can't believe we are still debating over religion in the 21st century

[@2fast2block]

Well then, show me what you have...loser. Hitch who pretends to know the bible as he screws up on it over and over again including what faith means biblically. --"Faith is the surrender of the mind, it's the surrender of reason, it's the surrender of the only thing that makes us different from other animals. It's our need to believe and to surrender our skepticism and our reason, our yearning to discard that and put all our trust or faith in someone or something, that is the sinister thing to me. ... Out of all the virtues, all the supposed virtues, faith must be the most overrated”-- Christopher Hitchens Now, look at what biblical faith really means that Hitch the liar didn't even look at: Biblically, faith means trust. It's a trust by evidence seen. God asks that we prove things. To reason. To get knowledge. To study. God has nothing to hide. We develop trust from what is seen, and that which is not seen yet is trusted also because of the trust built up from what is seen. It's much like a human relationship. We don't trust much until a person has gained that trust from what is observed. The difference is though, God is not limited to human powers. He created us. Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. crossexamined.org/biblical-faith-vs-blind-faith/ www.truthortradition.com/articles/what-does-the-bible-say-about-faith www.revisedenglishversion.com/Appendix/16/Faith_is_Trust www.truthortradition.com/articles/faith-a-confident-expectation-of-gods-promises-coming-to-pass www.truthortradition.com/articles/hebrews-1-11-and-faith Hitchens always went into evasive word antics to avoid key questions like how we got the creation of the universe. Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@CSUnger]

Notice that it’s the non-believers driving the debate.

[@publius1252]

@Chris Wen Not quite true. Faith is accepting something as being true which is outside your own personal knowledge or experience. But which, nonetheless, you accept through your review of available evidence and your judgment. Such as the date and place of your own birth. Or that 12 men landed on the moon. Or any of the multitude of things you accept as being true which you, personally, cannot attest to. That, my friend is called faith. And we are all people of faith.

[@jimjamthebananaman1]

@@publius1252 that’s not faith, that’s evidence. My birth certificate states my birth which is a source of evidence. My parents can attest to the fact I was born on a certain day which is supported by the date on my birth certificate. There’s substantial evidence that men were on the moon: there was millions of people who witnessed it on television and the hundreds of NASA engineers, communication personnel etc that helped the moon landing are all evidence. Faith is just a belief system based off no evidence e.g. the stories in the bible which have been rewritten several times over hundreds of years which have been mistranslated several times.

[@WilbertLek]

@@CSUnger sad child

[@kishorebajaj4353]

I am latecomer and admirer of the late Mr. Christopher Hitchens. But I am truly grateful for all the technology that makes him appear live years after his demise. Bless him for birthing in my lifetime!

[@tigertiger1699]

Chris was so generous to have put so much honesty, care and effort to give us this clarity.. and wisdom 👍🙏

[@fibonacimike4110]

What clarity?

[@tigertiger1699]

@@fibonacimike4110 The clarity that man made religions .. are what they are… man made up… ie.. bollocks…., That’s pretty clarifying 👍

[@fibonacimike4110]

@@tigertiger1699 and what evidence do we have a god exists and that he made this clear for us?

[@tigertiger1699]

@@fibonacimike4110 ? Chris.. and others/ me self.. ain’t saying the a god exists

[@fibonacimike4110]

@@tigertiger1699 sorry my bad, i thought you said christ not chris lol

[@WilliamHBaird-eq2hp]

This is Brilliant ... Thanks so much for sharing! The world Losing a man like Christopher, is painful.

[@jeffforsythe9514]

Did you know that you can still call yourself an atheist and believe in the existence of Lucifer?

[@WilliamHBaird-eq2hp]

@@jeffforsythe9514 I'm not an Atheist ... I'm more of an agnostic and Pray to the God (Just in case) 😉

[@jeffforsythe9514]

17 years ago, I asked god for His help. Soon after He gave me His divine Blessing...............................falun dafa

[@2fast2block]

@@WilliamHBaird-eq2hp there is no just in case, you believe or don't believe. If you want to be on the fence, that's not getting you anywhere. How did you get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@WilliamHBaird-eq2hp]

@@jeffforsythe9514 That is why I will not commit to any religion.... They are all trying too hard to get me aboard. I believe in my own way and that makes me (and God) very happy

[@JLovrak]

“Let’s get started, because time presses…” hits different now.

[@williambrown8374]

I caught that as well. He is very much missed and was a proper scholar. May you reach the stars Christopher RIP

[@richardbigham4138]

😢

[@helpIthinkmylegsaregone]

He was a NeoCon Vanity Fair writer. Chill.

[@richardbigham4138]

@@helpIthinkmylegsaregone he was pretty far left of most neo cons, except for the Iraq war of course, definitely one of the things I didn't agree with him about

[@helpIthinkmylegsaregone]

@richardbigham4138 the original neocons were literally all trotzkyites. Like, they Producer their own docs about it. What, do you think Robert Kagan and Vicki Nuland are socially conservative? They are just hyper ethnocentric hebrews. Hitchens' own story also involves him finding out he's 1/16 and suddenly had to become a card-carrying member of the tribe. It's the revolutionary spirit, plain and simple. They don't love anything, they just hate Christ and the goyim.

[@mtambov2351]

And CH's celestially eloquent comments, all the faithful can say is, "But the says ...." These two are galaxies part in their intellectual solvency. So glad I found you CH. So sad you're gone.

[@TimLeahy2]

In case anyone is interested in Israel Finkelstein's book "Digging up History" that Hitch mentions at 27:20, the book title is actually "The Bible Unearthed". Hitch at his brilliant best in this video. Thanks for posting it!

[@DBEdwards]

Hahaha. Hitchens was a mouthpiece for a tawdry agenda. Nothing more.

[@yomilalgro]

Ty

[@LocomotiveComp]

Christopher Hitchens was the most talented oratorical weapon atheism has ever had. I was slowly questioning the Catholic beliefs I had been taught as a child around 7 years ago. One day, I read Hitchens' masterpiece, 'god IS NOT GREAT', which not only talked me out of my faith, it changed the way I looked at the world. I proceeded to buy and read 'The Portable Atheist.' This gave me a better idea of how Hitchens came to become such a strong anti-theist. I've probably watched every debate Hitch ever did. This, in my opinion, is his best performance. He was so lucid and focused. It was as if he knew he had very little time left to share the truth about religion, god, and totalitarianism. And his closing statement possesses some of my favorite quotes from anyone. Ever. Man, do I miss him.

[@MartinIsRunning]

The Bibliognost Hitchens is nothing like a god. Nobody claims he is. He is praised for being exactly what god is not: poised, present, and well-spoken.

[@MartinIsRunning]

Aaaaand go fuck yourself 😂 I do not recognize you as having the ability to identify a god, nor can I. We simply don’t have the resources. But seriously. Go fuck yourself. You might like it.

[@jwu1950]

Atheism is by definition illogical, irrational, and perhaps even evil. Bitchens is a bitch. He committed suicide just like his mother did. Runs in the family. May the love and the peace of Jesus be with us.

[@jadezee6316]

so you admit religion is all about money...welcome aboard...i hope your family doesnt disown you for breaking free

[@jadezee6316]

you have no respect for god....unless you think lying and calling people names endears you to him/her. why do you live such a life so devoid of his/hers teaching?.....and in doing so mock him/her? arent you ashamed your mom taught you to act such a way?

[@leshernandez8577]

The more I listen to this Grand person the more and more it all fits quite nicely and in its rightful place. So appreciative for Mr. Christopher Hitchens. I've never felt for the religion persuasion, and I'm not a scholar either... Just my own person with a logical mind to profoundly think for myself not to let the herd (Humanity) due the thinking for me.

[@AntitheistHuman]

seems we would have some great talks if it were to happen some time, can't find many people with rational thinking so often

[@yourlocalperson8138]

A man who’ll live forever by his thoughts that freed us all

[@2fast2block]

He was simply a dolt no matter how much you lie about him. Hitch who pretends to know the bible as he screws up on it over and over again including what faith means biblically. --"Faith is the surrender of the mind, it's the surrender of reason, it's the surrender of the only thing that makes us different from other animals. It's our need to believe and to surrender our skepticism and our reason, our yearning to discard that and put all our trust or faith in someone or something, that is the sinister thing to me. ... Out of all the virtues, all the supposed virtues, faith must be the most overrated”-- Christopher Hitchens Now, look at what biblical faith really means that Hitch the liar didn't even look at: Biblically, faith means trust. It's a trust by evidence seen. God asks that we prove things. To reason. To get knowledge. To study. God has nothing to hide. We develop trust from what is seen, and that which is not seen yet is trusted also because of the trust built up from what is seen. It's much like a human relationship. We don't trust much until a person has gained that trust from what is observed. The difference is though, God is not limited to human powers. He created us. Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYuqk4aoq6qEgtE crossexamined.org/biblical-faith-vs-blind-faith/ www.truthortradition.com/articles/what-does-the-bible-say-about-faith www.revisedenglishversion.com/Appendix/16/Faith_is_Trust www.truthortradition.com/articles/faith-a-confident-expectation-of-gods-promises-coming-to-pass www.truthortradition.com/articles/hebrews-1-11-and-faith Hitchens always went into evasive word antics to avoid key questions like how we got the creation of the universe. Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@xdmasson]

Hitch got even better in the last 1 to 2 years of his life. Imagine if he could have kept going for another 10 years. What epic youtube videos we would have had.

[@jeffforsythe9514]

Do you really think that anyone admires the fact that you are a quitter?

[@jeffforsythe9514]

Not better, drunker and sicker, try to get yourself on a better path.

[@user-tt6be2zx3h]

"better" as in speech and intensity/delivery etc.. not every "better" relates to health lol

[@jameshogan6142]

@@jeffforsythe9514 That is a good point. Had Hitchens been religious he would have had opportunities to moderate his drinking problem. The church has temperance and total abstinence societies to provide support to people with alcohol addictions. In addition many church members voluntarily forego consumption of drink/tobacco during the season of Lent and other times of year.

[@ChillAssTurtle]

​@@jameshogan6142 authoritarianism is cringe and weak. If i wanna be a drunk bastard then suck me from the back nerd.

[@seandonahue8464]

I wish, I had seen him in person! I wish, I spoke so intelligently and complete in explaining a thought. He helped me to think things through. I am indebted to him!

[@2fast2block]

If you liked him, you don't think things through, you barely think. The 1LofT states that energy can't be created or destroyed, it can't happen naturally. One aspect of the 2LofT shows that the universe is winding down, usable energy is becoming less usable. It is clear creation had to be done supernaturally yet it is still denied because people are just too proud to accept that, among other things.

[@markusbaker1161]

100%! Thank you for this comment.

[@babaktaghavi497]

I wish I had the honor of meeting him in person. The world has lost an advocate for free thinking and personal salvation from dogma and ignorance.

[@BigB932]

People who haven't been born yet will miss Hitchens

[@Alan-fk2kt]

And his slavering sloppy suck-up luv for BILL BUCKLEY.

[@coreybakerteachingstudio8858]

I Love this man! What a gift to all of us!

[@MatteoPrezioso]

I miss him so much.

[@MartinIsRunning]

“Boo-hoo” - Jesus Christian empathy is an oxymoron.

[@MartinIsRunning]

There’s that Christian empathy again. And under who’s authority do you rate my life as “low”?

[@MartinIsRunning]

Under your own authority was the answer to my question. Unless you are citing god’s authority?

[@MartinIsRunning]

Kneel down, then, for your god. I choose to stand, free to make moral choices on my own. Like an adult.

[@MartinIsRunning]

You dare to threaten a stranger over the Internet? I love these “morals” you preach. Tell me another bedtime story, Grandpapa.

[@karensimons9260]

Still sad about his death. His was an admirable, unique mind and I loved hearing him speak! Miss him!

[@TonyEnglandUK]

I loved how the man's subtle wit was ever ready to make an appearance - his hand gesture to demonstrate _"wants security"_ at 16:11

[@GayorgVonTrapp]

Masterful and supreme. I’m glad they edited out the other speaker cos we all know it wouldn’t have shaken a stick at this exemplary performance from the master of the species.

[@MrCanis4]

With Hitchens you don't need a shadow to shine bright.

[@cj1000]

I’m free and Christopher Hitchens is one of the people that helped me escape the biggest lie ever inflected on mankind.

[@MrDOB1000]

What are you free from? What is freedom?

[@mattcox3]

@@MrDOB1000 he’s free to indulge in everything his flesh desires, which is slavery.

[@furiousinsects6386]

​@@MrDOB1000 He is free from lies that you believe.

[@cj1000]

@@mattcox3 , no in fact I have not changed my morality one bit since I broke free from the delusion. That's just another layer of the myth: that people can't be moral without believing in "grown-up Santa Claus".

[@firstaidsack]

@@mattcox3 He's free to think and look at the world for what it is without having to fear eternal hellfire for the wrong thoughts.

[@udowish]

I have watched this debate at least 5 times, I miss Hitch, and his wonderful mastery of the English language and storyteller. The ending is quite simply epic.

[@TuckFrump-r9h]

When he recognized his audience was younger than his usual one, the extra care he took explaining his points made them that much better.

[@skuzaposkuzapo56]

I know he was an impressive speaker but my goodness, this Hitchens man was unbelievably ignorant and just in love with hearing his own voice. There are no inconsistencies in the bible if you are a dilligent reader with no ulterior motives. He was just a loud voice for nonsense, and making a living from the gullible and impressionable who bought his books and paid him for his corrupt speeches

[@MsKariSmith]

@@skuzaposkuzapo56 His logic was impeccable....where is you and yours in that man made crap of a bible? People that believe in fairy tales and all the various religions....have no logic.

[@moderoy]

What debate? This is just one man talking, whereas a debate by definition is an exchange of viewpoints. Oh, that's right, you've edited out the opposing point of view that you're not interested in hearing. I can't help but think Hitch would be dismayed by it.

[@Brianbeesandbikes]

@@moderoy re"What debate? This is just one man talking, ... etc ," Having watched both, I appreciate removing Dembski's speechifying that failed utterly against CH's profound connection with this young audience. Dogma be damned. Light is what exposes lies from truth, and Hitch glows with it, even today.

[@Isaac-jl6hq]

I love how so many “Christians” in these comment sections respond to the people who applaud Hitchens as simply being an intelligent man by saying things like “he deserved to die” and “rot in hell.” What loving Christians. I’m sure God would be proud of their disgusting hatred

[@2fast2block]

We're all going to die. About hell, Hitch is going to be thrown into the lake of fire whether you or anyone else thinks differently. It is loving to tell the truth, something that Hitch seldom did. Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. Psalms 14:1 "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good." kzbin.info/www/bejne/hoSYk6h9o62JkNk

[@WilbertLek]

Funny, no sad children here. None that I haven't blocked anyway.

[@truecatholic8692]

We still love misguided people like Hitchens. God loves him infinitely. We pray for him to come to know God.

[@WilbertLek]

@@truecatholic8692 Passive aggressiveness is still aggressiveness.

[@WilbertLek]

@@truecatholic8692 Oh, and your personally preferred imaginary friend only lives in your brainwashed head.

[@mikeunknown9072]

A shining star that exposes the darkness of religion. Will always be missed.

[@denisesanders5589]

What a loss. A voice of reason. What a wonderful human being

[@timefortea1931]

Richard Dawkins is a great speaker on the illogic of god and religion but Christopher Hitchens is the MASTER! He was so eloquent, so brilliant and I agree 101% with all his points. They make perfect sense.

[@2fast2block]

You are such a F00L! Hitch who pretends to know the bible as he screws up on it over and over again including what faith means biblically. --"Faith is the surrender of the mind, it's the surrender of reason, it's the surrender of the only thing that makes us different from other animals. It's our need to believe and to surrender our skepticism and our reason, our yearning to discard that and put all our trust or faith in someone or something, that is the sinister thing to me. ... Out of all the virtues, all the supposed virtues, faith must be the most overrated”-- Christopher Hitchens Now, look at what biblical faith really means that Hitch the liar didn't even look at: Biblically, faith means trust. It's a trust by evidence seen. God asks that we prove things. To reason. To get knowledge. To study. God has nothing to hide. We develop trust from what is seen, and that which is not seen yet is trusted also because of the trust built up from what is seen. It's much like a human relationship. We don't trust much until a person has gained that trust from what is observed. The difference is though, God is not limited to human powers. He created us. Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYuqk4aoq6qEgtE crossexamined.org/biblical-faith-vs-blind-faith/ www.truthortradition.com/articles/what-does-the-bible-say-about-faith www.revisedenglishversion.com/Appendix/16/Faith_is_Trust www.truthortradition.com/articles/faith-a-confident-expectation-of-gods-promises-coming-to-pass www.truthortradition.com/articles/hebrews-1-11-and-faith Hitchens always went into evasive word antics to avoid key questions like how we got the creation of the universe. Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@sundanceandskye]

There is no debate when Christopher Hitchens is speaking.

[@Landmine006]

Kevin Nightingale Yeah it's always completely one sided in his favor, such an excellent speaker

[@SonOfSeth]

+busylifemeto I just want to know what he is responding too and draw my own informed conclusions, rather than follow a different kind of dogma, no matter how much sense it makes to me.

[@SonOfSeth]

***** I understand that, what I object to is that it's the same reasoning creationists use to validate their own beliefs.

[@heiningerjohn]

+Kevin Nightingale Hitchens has said all he will ever say! What he had to say will have no lasting value. And wasc largely nothing more than his own unsustainable distorted atheistic perspective of reality. He finished his life with the bleak bankrupt view that he lived in an "indifferent" uncaring godless universe that had no ultimate meaning or purpose. His brother and the vast majority of humanity know otherwise.

[@heiningerjohn]

hitchens +busylifemeto Like Hitchens, you operate on the unproven "blind faith" metaphysical religious belief that everything that surrounds you is entirely the result of "undirected"chance cosmic events and "blind" evolutionary processes that have no predictive power; and no overall perspective as to where anything and everything was evolving too, or even why.This amounts to believe the unbelievable and think the unthinkable, just like Hitchens did.. The Bible beautifully sums up people like Hitchens and his fellow travelers, "Professing to be wise they become fools, ever learning and never coming to a knowledge of the truth". Meaning, there is nothing intelligent or rational in what Hitchens blindly believed. In short, the blind leading the blind. I started out by asking Hitchens defenders and his fellow atheists to name anything in existence that is self-creating and "self-existing, and NOT dependent on an external cause and preexisting environment to explain its existence. I'm still waiting! The silence remains deafening! .

[@SandraLovesSun]

Thank you for uploading kind and generous person.

[@MichaelHervey]

"Hitch" seemed to go a bit easy in places but it was most probably a sensitivity to the innocent children in the audience. An amazing gentleman he was. Though his audience in this place was presumably in the vast majority folks with a presupposition that he could have nothing of value to say, one can hope there were some actually listening who will continue to reason these things at a deeper level. Escape from faith is a struggle for most - was a struggle for me. It is the children that make my heart ache. For as one of those children myself brought up with ghosts, angels, demons, hell fire, a holy book and damnation for the sinful act of just being born in the sinful line of Adam, I lived with (what I now see) an irrational and unsubstantiated view of existence in the natural world as a scary supernatural dangerous place, fraught with dangers both within and without, governed by spooky forces. That this belief system governed my life view and choices for so long is a sadness. It is my sincere hope for future generations and survival of mankind, that we confront this irrationality and seek to truly understand the world in rational ways.

[@65Z01]

Michael Hervey"Escape from faith is a struggle for most - was a struggle for me." I can fully appreciate that. It is now such a relief to be from all the prior guilt-driven rules for living. Indeed it's like an escape from North Korea.

[@Fred-uf7bl]

Michael Hervey Welcome back :)

[@cultofmalgus1310]

Michael Hervey yes, from a very young age I was indoctrinated into the Catholic Church, which is completely unfair. It caused me a lot of grief and stress growing up being a skeptical and open minded person. Always asking questions, always wanting to learn more. I was very inquisitive at a young age. But it was through fear mongering and guilt trips that I stayed in the church for as long as I did. The day I finally found for a fact that the biblical god was either fake or malevolent I felt liberated inside. I felt like the weight of the world was lifted from me and I was actually happy. I am happier even if this life is all we have because it beats an eternity of either burning forever or serving a tyrant.

[@straightforwardmath]

I can relate. I struggled with doubt from a young age and consequently with anxiety and depression from fear of God's wrath. When I was young I considered killing myself before I had a chance to lose my faith go to hell. Obviously, that seems stupid now, but the point is I was young and very afraid of this so called "loving" God.

[@Landmine006]

65Z01 Same here, took me a few months to finally let christianity go, but that's common when it's been programmed into you since birth.

[@nadinejoyce1203]

Freed me from depending on an invisible means of support. So grateful.💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔

[@dinny7326]

Amazingly clear in his description of the folly of religion!

[@rlittlejohn2772]

So true. His way with words. His razors and how he cuts thru to essence of arguments

[@rlittlejohn2772]

Nobody says it better than Hitch.

[@2fast2block]

Shut up, he was just a loser. Hitch who pretends to know the bible as he screws up on it over and over again including what faith means biblically. --"Faith is the surrender of the mind, it's the surrender of reason, it's the surrender of the only thing that makes us different from other animals. It's our need to believe and to surrender our skepticism and our reason, our yearning to discard that and put all our trust or faith in someone or something, that is the sinister thing to me. ... Out of all the virtues, all the supposed virtues, faith must be the most overrated”-- Christopher Hitchens Now, look at what biblical faith really means that Hitch the liar didn't even look at: Biblically, faith means trust. It's a trust by evidence seen. God asks that we prove things. To reason. To get knowledge. To study. God has nothing to hide. We develop trust from what is seen, and that which is not seen yet is trusted also because of the trust built up from what is seen. It's much like a human relationship. We don't trust much until a person has gained that trust from what is observed. The difference is though, God is not limited to human powers. He created us. Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. crossexamined.org/biblical-faith-vs-blind-faith/ www.truthortradition.com/articles/what-does-the-bible-say-about-faith www.revisedenglishversion.com/Appendix/16/Faith_is_Trust www.truthortradition.com/articles/faith-a-confident-expectation-of-gods-promises-coming-to-pass www.truthortradition.com/articles/hebrews-1-11-and-faith Hitchens always went into evasive word antics to avoid key questions like how we got the creation of the universe. Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@DBEdwards]

Hitchens was an awesome political debater. A genius really. But when it came to understanding God, Hitchens was the complete Failure.

[@MrKFNeverGiveUp]

We really need Mr Hitchens nowadays. He's sadly missed by logical and rational people around the world. RIP.

[@2fast2block]

No, he's just missed by losers like you. Hitch who pretends to know the bible as he screws up on it over and over again including what faith means biblically. --"Faith is the surrender of the mind, it's the surrender of reason, it's the surrender of the only thing that makes us different from other animals. It's our need to believe and to surrender our skepticism and our reason, our yearning to discard that and put all our trust or faith in someone or something, that is the sinister thing to me. ... Out of all the virtues, all the supposed virtues, faith must be the most overrated”-- Christopher Hitchens Now, look at what biblical faith really means that Hitch the liar didn't even look at: Biblically, faith means trust. It's a trust by evidence seen. God asks that we prove things. To reason. To get knowledge. To study. God has nothing to hide. We develop trust from what is seen, and that which is not seen yet is trusted also because of the trust built up from what is seen. It's much like a human relationship. We don't trust much until a person has gained that trust from what is observed. The difference is though, God is not limited to human powers. He created us. Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. crossexamined.org/biblical-faith-vs-blind-faith/ www.truthortradition.com/articles/what-does-the-bible-say-about-faith www.revisedenglishversion.com/Appendix/16/Faith_is_Trust www.truthortradition.com/articles/faith-a-confident-expectation-of-gods-promises-coming-to-pass www.truthortradition.com/articles/hebrews-1-11-and-faith Hitchens always went into evasive word antics to avoid key questions like how we got the creation of the universe. Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@clarkelaidlaw1678]

the bible reads like the ravings of a madman,full of ridiculous claims and contradictions and falsehoods.one thing that it does make clear is that there was a lack of institutions for epileptics and schizophrenics in Palestine at that time.

[@2fast2block]

@@clarkelaidlaw1678 now that you showed yourself a loser, next time address what I gave rather than ignore it.

[@Karl-Benny]

If only i was Christian i could raise him from the grave

[@chesterswortham5197]

If he could speak to you now he would be telling a whole different story

[@stchew49]

A man true to his conscience and beliefs to the very end. RIP Christopher Hitchens, though you declare you are not a scientist, you are an ardent philosopher of science. You have fought a good fight, you have finished your race and kept your faith.

[@ahuramazda32]

Lawrence Chew “out of all the virtues, all the supposed virtues, faith must be the most overrated”

[@2fast2block]

@@ahuramazda32 you losers don't ever learn. Hitch who pretends to know the bible as he screws up on it over and over again including what faith means biblically. --"Faith is the surrender of the mind, it's the surrender of reason, it's the surrender of the only thing that makes us different from other animals. It's our need to believe and to surrender our skepticism and our reason, our yearning to discard that and put all our trust or faith in someone or something, that is the sinister thing to me. ... Out of all the virtues, all the supposed virtues, faith must be the most overrated”-- Christopher Hitchens Now, look at what biblical faith really means that Hitch the liar didn't even look at: Biblically, faith means trust. It's a trust by evidence seen. God asks that we prove things. To reason. To get knowledge. To study. God has nothing to hide. We develop trust from what is seen, and that which is not seen yet is trusted also because of the trust built up from what is seen. It's much like a human relationship. We don't trust much until a person has gained that trust from what is observed. The difference is though, God is not limited to human powers. He created us. Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. crossexamined.org/biblical-faith-vs-blind-faith/ www.truthortradition.com/articles/what-does-the-bible-say-about-faith www.revisedenglishversion.com/Appendix/16/Faith_is_Trust www.truthortradition.com/articles/faith-a-confident-expectation-of-gods-promises-coming-to-pass www.truthortradition.com/articles/hebrews-1-11-and-faith Hitchens always went into evasive word antics to avoid key questions like how we got the creation of the universe. Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@ahuramazda32]

@@2fast2block your gods are dead. It doesn’t matter how the universe was created. You losers keep feeding off of imaginary sky teats

[@2fast2block]

@@ahuramazda32 it's truly amazing how you losers will go on believing absurdities and just ignore the evidence.

[@ahuramazda32]

@@2fast2block very godly of you to talk trash. Talk to your little god. I don’t care about your opinion. There is no evidence for gods

[@farshid007]

A truly beautiful mind!

[@iansmith9125]

The most eloquent, erudite, charming & educated man who ever drew breath. I wish he was still with us. He’d have some choice words for the current status quo.

[@DBEdwards]

Yes. All that you say. BUT WRONG.

[@robertroberts9657]

One of his most amazing contributions - what a man.

[@2fast2block]

No, he was a dolt. Hitch who pretends to know the bible as he screws up on it over and over again including what faith means biblically. --"Faith is the surrender of the mind, it's the surrender of reason, it's the surrender of the only thing that makes us different from other animals. It's our need to believe and to surrender our skepticism and our reason, our yearning to discard that and put all our trust or faith in someone or something, that is the sinister thing to me. ... Out of all the virtues, all the supposed virtues, faith must be the most overrated”-- Christopher Hitchens Now, look at what biblical faith really means that Hitch the liar didn't even look at: Biblically, faith means trust. It's a trust by evidence seen. God asks that we prove things. To reason. To get knowledge. To study. God has nothing to hide. We develop trust from what is seen, and that which is not seen yet is trusted also because of the trust built up from what is seen. It's much like a human relationship. We don't trust much until a person has gained that trust from what is observed. The difference is though, God is not limited to human powers. He created us. Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYuqk4aoq6qEgtE crossexamined.org/biblical-faith-vs-blind-faith/ www.truthortradition.com/articles/what-does-the-bible-say-about-faith www.revisedenglishversion.com/Appendix/16/Faith_is_Trust www.truthortradition.com/articles/faith-a-confident-expectation-of-gods-promises-coming-to-pass www.truthortradition.com/articles/hebrews-1-11-and-faith Hitchens always went into evasive word antics to avoid key questions like how we got the creation of the universe. Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@poozer1986]

@@2fast2block same old thermodynamics nonsense. Still haven't figured out the fault in your vomitted idiocy. How quaint

[@DBEdwards]

Hitchens had his moments. Sadly this wasn't one of those

[@poozer1986]

@@DBEdwards care to elaborate?

[@tommytomtom5531]

An atheist doesn't have to be someone who thinks he has a proof that there can't be a god. He only has to be someone who believes that the evidence on the God question is at a similar level to the evidence on the werewolf question.

[@2fast2block]

Nitwit, go pretend to others you care about evidence. How did you get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if you want to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation really happened by natural means. Also, throw in how we got the laws of nature, naturally. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@publius1252]

@@lepidoptera9337 The difference is I've never heard of an intelligent person coming to believe in werewolves. But many intelligent people, including Nobel science prize winners, have come to have faith in God. I'm not sure you really know what you're talking about.

[@JACKnJESUS]

@@publius1252 You seem to be unaware of the methodology of indoctrination. I can guarantee you if no child ever heard about 'religion' and then were told when they turned 21...religion would disappear. It's all about indoctrination...and getting the kids young. Every totalitarian society uses it. Religion is a totalitarian system.

[@zeitakulobusta]

@@publius1252 intelligence and the ability to be, or at least the risk of being delusional aren't mutually exclusive.

[@newnoggin2]

​@@publius1252A backhanded argument from authority. Pretty weak. Try something intelligent.

[@rodneyrodgers141]

I just wish I had the ability to put words together like he did. I've tried to memorize some of his words to help me out when I talk with those that believe in God's and I never quite get it all right or certainly can't articulate the way he does. The world was much better with you and it is much worse without you.

[@aaronbarrett5061]

10 years later and as someone who has probably read as many books as Christopher Hitchens, i still wonder how he managed to remember everything in such a way and to even stick books and quotes together coherently, perhaps I have too little time, perhaps he was just a different breed. Always missed.

[@David-cm4ok]

It’s crossed my mind too. I can read something and be completely unable to recall anything about it, and certainly not quote from it. He was incredible.

[@Broom-SSN]

I miss Mr Hitchens. Such a keen intellect, sharp wit and passionate speaker.

[@alanwebb9438]

The, if not one of, the greatest orators of the 21st century.. He is sorely missed.

[@RichieRichMD]

Hitchens a beacon of light, the light that makes heat that impels fire, the fire that lights our way. You were indeed brave and great Sir Knight, you fought with the strength of many men, may we join you infinitely then one day. The very best orator/humanist/polemicist of modern times, rest well dear your work here is finished. I love You Christopher Hitchens.

[@alexanderstephen1567]

"...Thou shalt have no other Gods but me!" (Commandments of God nr.1). You've just made yourself a god (Christopher Hitchens).

[@williamtrotter123]

The very best speaker on one of the most important topics.Goodnight Christopher

[@eniggma9353]

It was very bold of Hitchens to try to convince a crowd of people in a church that there is no God. I find such endeavours to be ridiculous waste of time but I guess that made him so special.

[@eniggma9353]

but fuck it he's brilliant nevertheless.

[@eniggma9353]

and then there is the AI that tells me that Jesus had 95% likelihood of existing. BS.

[@misosoup5ever]

I was impressed with how cordial Mr. Hitchens was. Not to say that he wasn't anything but witty and cool, but in this debate he was especially considerate of his audience and presented his case respectfully.

[@2fast2block]

His case is lies and absurdity. Hitch who pretends to know the bible as he screws up on it over and over again including what faith means biblically. --"Faith is the surrender of the mind, it's the surrender of reason, it's the surrender of the only thing that makes us different from other animals. It's our need to believe and to surrender our skepticism and our reason, our yearning to discard that and put all our trust or faith in someone or something, that is the sinister thing to me. ... Out of all the virtues, all the supposed virtues, faith must be the most overrated”-- Christopher Hitchens Now, look at what biblical faith really means that Hitch the liar didn't even look at: Biblically, faith means trust. It's a trust by evidence seen. God asks that we prove things. To reason. To get knowledge. To study. God has nothing to hide. We develop trust from what is seen, and that which is not seen yet is trusted also because of the trust built up from what is seen. It's much like a human relationship. We don't trust much until a person has gained that trust from what is observed. The difference is though, God is not limited to human powers. He created us. Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYuqk4aoq6qEgtE crossexamined.org/biblical-faith-vs-blind-faith/ www.truthortradition.com/articles/what-does-the-bible-say-about-faith www.revisedenglishversion.com/Appendix/16/Faith_is_Trust www.truthortradition.com/articles/faith-a-confident-expectation-of-gods-promises-coming-to-pass www.truthortradition.com/articles/hebrews-1-11-and-faith Hitchens always went into evasive word antics to avoid key questions like how we got the creation of the universe. Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@DBEdwards]

Hitchens was always polite and the gentlemen. DOES NOT MAKE HIM RIGHT, HOWEVER.

[@allahjr.8522]

Anakin skywalker couldn't tame his fellow lads.

[@TurinTuramber]

@@DBEdwards What does he get wrong?

[@post_hit_invincibility9940]

​@@2fast2block Your quotes from that fantasy novel are irrelevant. You wouldn't see the irony if it would slap its dick in your face, wouldn't you, christian boy?

[@marcomeme4875]

Hitchens has always been Hitchens. But close to his death, I think he has said the most poetic and beautiful things. I will encourage my children to listen to Hitchens when they get older. How old do you think is suitable? 10? 15?

[@ralphbernhard1757]

That would depend on your kids, not anybody else. I would ask them when you think they are ready. The fact that you admire great thinkers (and ask the question in the first place), leads me to believe that you'll know when the time is right. BTW, wonderfull thinker, that man.

[@Fyralynn]

Why not let your kids discover what they find interesting on their own? If they dont get involved in religion they should take up hobbies instead of getting involved in this circus. Dont indoctrinate your children in the same way that we complain that the Christians do.

[@rohadtanyad8908]

Fyralynn you dimwit, how would the kids find out what they find interesting without exposing them to things? encouraging skepticism and rational thought is how you save them from being indoctrinated later you ignorant dumbfuck. teaching critical thinking is not indoctrination.

[@bigduke483]

Fyralynn religious indoctrination and encouraging scientific knowledge are 2 completely different things. it never ceases to amaze me how idiotic and unintelligent people can be.

[@HolyBison]

Fyralynn I heartily agree. It is horrible to indoctrinate your kids into these horrible religions when they are just little kids. It scares the Hell out of most of them. They should be outside playing and enjoying their precious lives while they are still young and more enlightened than most of the sadistic adults in these churches.

[@Truth-Be-Told-USA]

A "loving God" exists in an old book and in people's own minds.

[@juligrlee556]

Christopher Hitchens was a gift to me and seeing him lecture and reading his books makes him immortal.

[@jackcross8616]

This took place at my school when I was in 7th grade. The conference is called Biblical World Institute… you can imagine how pissed people were when Hitch dominated the debate😂

[@johnkerr1113]

Glad to hear that... hahah

[@2fast2block]

It must have been a nitwit to not be able to crush Hitch. You dolts sure hate to think. Hitch who pretends to know the bible as he screws up on it over and over again including what faith means biblically. --"Faith is the surrender of the mind, it's the surrender of reason, it's the surrender of the only thing that makes us different from other animals. It's our need to believe and to surrender our skepticism and our reason, our yearning to discard that and put all our trust or faith in someone or something, that is the sinister thing to me. ... Out of all the virtues, all the supposed virtues, faith must be the most overrated”-- Christopher Hitchens Now, look at what biblical faith really means that Hitch the liar didn't even look at: Biblically, faith means trust. It's a trust by evidence seen. God asks that we prove things. To reason. To get knowledge. To study. God has nothing to hide. We develop trust from what is seen, and that which is not seen yet is trusted also because of the trust built up from what is seen. It's much like a human relationship. We don't trust much until a person has gained that trust from what is observed. The difference is though, God is not limited to human powers. He created us. Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYuqk4aoq6qEgtE crossexamined.org/biblical-faith-vs-blind-faith/ www.truthortradition.com/articles/what-does-the-bible-say-about-faith www.revisedenglishversion.com/Appendix/16/Faith_is_Trust www.truthortradition.com/articles/faith-a-confident-expectation-of-gods-promises-coming-to-pass www.truthortradition.com/articles/hebrews-1-11-and-faith Hitchens always went into evasive word antics to avoid key questions like how we got the creation of the universe. Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@jackcross8616]

@@2fast2block I’m the OP. I’m a Christian. Hitches still won the debate badly cuz my school payed him too much to get a good Christian debater.

[@2fast2block]

@@jackcross8616 you likely see what I see so often, a vast majority of 'debates' are like a carnival fight, a jab, a block, the opponent jabs back, applause here, boo there, etc. I understand there is a format, but even with a format, a person who really knows their stuff, as in a real fight, will put the person DOWN! None of the silliness, politeness, just brutal going for the throat. There are very few like that. Rare. Most are sellouts that have accepted so much of what the materialist believes, but God was somehow behind it as if that is some bold stand. God bless you, brother, and keep up the good fight.

[@LundunDansqua]

@@2fast2block what does Deuteronomy 22:28-29 say? All of his points about your disgusting religion is summed up in those two verses of god’s law. A rape victim must marry her rapist. Good luck defending that mountain of monstrous morals. It isn’t gonna work. You just look like a nazi cultist when you do defend it. It is a lose lose and you lose ya little sycophant.

[@craigtimmons6907]

This was the first debate in which I was exposed to Hitch. It was broadcasted by PBS. After this, I gobbled up all the KZbin videos. Great stuff always. But during this period of his life, Hitch was seriously focused, even more poised and elegant than usual. As a former patient of chemotherapy, the fact that he delivered this content while being bombarded with chemo (which commonly causes “brain fog”) is amazing to me.

[@2fast2block]

You sure didn't use your time wisely. Hitch who pretends to know the bible as he screws up on it over and over again including what faith means biblically. --"Faith is the surrender of the mind, it's the surrender of reason, it's the surrender of the only thing that makes us different from other animals. It's our need to believe and to surrender our skepticism and our reason, our yearning to discard that and put all our trust or faith in someone or something, that is the sinister thing to me. ... Out of all the virtues, all the supposed virtues, faith must be the most overrated”-- Christopher Hitchens Now, look at what biblical faith really means that Hitch the liar didn't even look at: Biblically, faith means trust. It's a trust by evidence seen. God asks that we prove things. To reason. To get knowledge. To study. God has nothing to hide. We develop trust from what is seen, and that which is not seen yet is trusted also because of the trust built up from what is seen. It's much like a human relationship. We don't trust much until a person has gained that trust from what is observed. The difference is though, God is not limited to human powers. He created us. Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYuqk4aoq6qEgtE crossexamined.org/biblical-faith-vs-blind-faith/ www.truthortradition.com/articles/what-does-the-bible-say-about-faith www.revisedenglishversion.com/Appendix/16/Faith_is_Trust www.truthortradition.com/articles/faith-a-confident-expectation-of-gods-promises-coming-to-pass www.truthortradition.com/articles/hebrews-1-11-and-faith Hitchens always went into evasive word antics to avoid key questions like how we got the creation of the universe. Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@2fast2block]

@@lepidoptera9337 Here's what happens when you give an empty person common science they can't contend with, they will completely ignore it and since they are inept human beings that don't care, they will think they have something clever to say that makes it look like they are not as shallow as they are, so this is what is considered a good scientific come back to all the science they were provided: Drumroll, please.... their science....."That sure was a lot of bullshit. ;-)" And this is the evidence they gave to back up their claim... (blank) Yes, I'm serious. I'm not making this up. They are really that empty. They are really that STOOOO-PID!

[@tntdotbomb9340]

😢😭😢😭 I miss him so much! I love you Christopher!

[@darkjb48]

lmao

[@catkeys6911]

Just wishful thinking on your part, pious imbecile.

[@ronnieswain6549]

justWOWok, if there ever was a god, Mr Hicthens would be it.

[@iamthatiamiamthatiam2942]

MikeyJLove4EVER. Jesus Christ loved him so much he died for him, but hitchens rejected his salvation.

[@calbanar]

@The Bibliognost Do you believe in kindness and love for everybody?

[@ctgedge47]

What a beautiful ending statement . Hitchens says, "… the discussion about what is good, what is beautiful, what is noble, what is pure and what is true - why would I want to do that? That’s the only conversation worth having. And whether it goes on or not after I die, I don’t know. But I do know it’s the kind of conversation I want to have while I’m still alive." Mr. HItches, this conversation is still going on, thanks to Your Tube and your books. YOU LIVE ON.

[@paullambert9192]

The Hitch will achieve something he would have thought ludicrous. 100s of years from now his teachings will be taught as early examples of intelligence. The Hitch will become immortal.

[@ZiplineShazam]

YES !!

[@belaireguy4117]

"The Hitch will become immortal." He is not and he knew it, we will remember but will always be the few. You know what they say, "some things never change," and concluding, "it is what it is." I myself do not understand "immortality," understandably so. For the haters, my friend Hitch should be judged for his honesty although he only rests in eternal peace.....................until proven otherwise. Ugh.

[@belaireguy4117]

And I would respond, why is a chaotic and unpredictable universe nihilistic? Almost sounds contradictory, what would be wrong with a sort of "nonexistent" peace? One said this, ponder it please. “I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.” -supposedly penned by Mark Twain Keywords......................................"not suffered," a condition beyond the human one. All the best my friend, good morning and have a great day!

[@belaireguy4117]

TB It is not known that Clemens even wrote the quote but based on my "knowledge" and "experience," this quote though for me chimes in as "fact." Just like the fact I was born with no knowledge to have a religious belief and a deity waiting for me to accept as true with no question. Reality demands that I should have a problem with that, especially with the long history of religions and their thousands of deities. As far as epistemology, that is solely grounded in philosophy and sometimes reading about it gives me a headache, Kant is a good example. I am a realist and as far as I am concerned, it lacks value as it answers to nothing definitively. That is what hurts my head and makes it want to burst, it sounds to me even with the fancy words as no more than a belief without evidence, speculation at its best. Much like a religious belief. On the topic of religion, I came up with my own quote which seemingly is original. "The Gods have only tried to keep up with the progressing mind of humanity and failed, not the other way around." - Me All the best my friend, from icy Ohio, hope your weather is better. Russell

[@belaireguy4117]

Bibliognost > Thanks for sharing your experiences and a bit about yourself, seriously, I appreciate it. "Your quote is no doubt original, but I find it terribly flawed, on many levels." > Thank you for that although I do not find any mystery in it when it simply based on the religions and deities of the past. Are you familiar with "animism," where all religion began? You may debunk the tree in the link I will offer. I will answer to your criticisms. "First there is only A God, not many." > Interrogatives, which God? And why have you come to the conclusion there is only "one?" Again, are you proposing the God you believe in is the one determined by when and where you were born? Or was it the first God to be introduced to you? "I have no clue what the "progressing mind of humanity" means." > I am a bit taken aback by this one. Do you not think that man has progressed in all aspects of what it is to be human beings, collective or not? Have you read the Torah? It was full of barbarism that was approved by the Judeo-Christian (oxymoron) God where many were put to death for offenses that aren't even against the law today, let alone being considered acceptable. Offenses like adultery, fornication, being gay, your local psychic, unbelievers and the religious diverse, all warranting a death penalty. Do you not know that the first men were hunters and gatherers? They worshipped most every aspect of nature as Gods including their animal friends. www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/animism > And here is the tree I mentioned. believervsnonbelievers.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/246da14db63537a20f5cdc6e50e38e86.jpg > I stumble to use this word but "evolution" is the most applicable word to bring into this conversation, the evolution of all things. If you do not think being primitive has not been improved upon by mass past societies and cultures, I do not know how to express in any amount of words for you to consider otherwise. "If you mean a "collective mind" I would say no such mind exists. If you mean that mankind collectively is smarter, I would say we are no smarter than our ancestors - we merely stand on their shoulders, enjoy the things of modern advancement thanks to them." > I would agree, there is no such idea of a collective mind in play although many would say we would be better off with it. But that is not a reality, we are all individuals that make our own choices, good or bad. This is a huge topic in of itself and we could have a very lengthy discussion on it. Let's let this one go. As far as piggy backing on past generations, I will disagree, this goes back to the thought of a progressing mind of humanity. Societies and cultures advance on their own, done on this one. "Man has not changed in his nature, certainly. I would say that most men are better educated, in general, than a hundred years/500 years, etc. ago - but we are not intrinsically born with a higher IQ than those who proceeded us." > Exactly, that is my point yet you express it as well, the human condition has never changed. "So, in what sense you see the human mind progressing, I am not sure. But of this I am sure - our minds, singularly or collectively are not even remotely in the same ballpark as God's." > Morality and everything about respecting and caring for our fellow human beings. Again, which God? Stopping here, your answer will determine the length or end of our conversation. I am going with the latter seeing where your words have gone. Take care my friend.

[@paulSmith-te8gq]

The ending message is so poignant so moving and so true... his words live forever...

[@DBEdwards]

His truth does not.

[@parsonj39]

@@DBEdwards You're quite wrong.

[@DBEdwards]

@@parsonj39 Prove it

[@DBEdwards]

@@parsonj39 Prove it. You can't. Neither could Hitchens.

[@jandrews6254]

@@DBEdwards disprove it then

[@MaxGoof]

His closing always gives me chills.

[@tariq_sharif]

But in a good way ? It would be more terrifying to know that one is destined to eternal hell, unimaginable torment, because one did not stumble upon the "correct" superstition. We humans, should make the most of this life. Once we die our atoms are destined to rejoin the great cosmos.

[@MakeSomeNoisePlaylists]

Science lets fly you to the moon Religion lets fly you into buildings

[@truthntelling]

Science lets you fly over hurdles. Religion lets you fly through them.

[@billschlafly4107]

This was a man focused on presenting others with a seed of doubt. He would have normally arrived at a microphone as a snarling beast of words. This presentation shows his enemies the true compassion we non-believers have always known about him. We simply want people to think about what they think. Your feeling don't matter at all unless someone else is involved. During my life time, Christopher Hitchens was the best at thinking AND speaking.

[@alexhidel3732]

I wish I knew of him while he was alive. Sadly the first I heard of him was in 2014. I think he died a few years before. I have watched like 50 hours of his talks. This video was exceptional.

[@sulemanshams4413]

a gem of a person