Does assassin of CEO have an insanity defense? My legal analysis.

[@MyChannel20236]

If he's experiecing acute pain from his operation, he's in a different mental state compared to the average person without such pain. If you have not had such pain, you can't really understand how it changes your personality. People commit suicide from such pain.

[@truffles2721]

Not usually become murderers

[@WinstonSmithGPT]

Exactly. Most people can’t wait to lean over and pass gas along with their opinion. We so far know very little, except a few words about chronic and progressive pain, sexual organ paralysis, and urinary incontinence. Doubtless medications are involved, many have psychotropic effects. This isn’t to defend him, but to point out we know virtually nothing about him that’s relevant to the insanity question.

[@jp5419]

@@WinstonSmithGPTgood point. I will wait for the story to unfold.

[@AnneOfNYS]

@WinstonSmithGPT Don't disregard that he still within the age frame for young men when schizophrenia can develop in young men. A young guy can have no symptoms, then at a certain age the young man manifests. But don't think I am promoting this as true! NO! But it is in scientific literature the way and age these things happen. This is my brainstorming. All I am doing is presenting an off hand possibility. I don't say it's probable! It's just my personal bes guess. We have so few concrete facts. So who knows?

[@SusanH4626]

Love listening to all your talks!

[@LarryaproudU.S.citizen]

Narcissistic Psychopathology is a personality defect and not a mental illness. These people are not insane. They know what they are doing.

[@rraguso]

go easy on Dersh. He's not all bad

[@backbaynana]

He could have bi polar and been in a manic phase. That is a mental illness. But we need a psychiatrist to diagnose him

[@kennylavay8492]

tell that to the big guy and hunters attorneys.

[@UFOpilot.]

so, in your shitty philosophy destroying a problem that is killing millions of people is "narcissistic psychopathology?". oh, fuck!!!...you have no clue what you are!...LOL!!!!. PEACE.

[@marcusmaddox2176]

He's a defense attorney. Comes naturally

[@duanelavely5481]

I've suffered with chronic back pain for over 25 yrs. I've had 2 surgeries & tons of injections. A 3rd surgery was authorized in 2018 but the neurosurgeon cancelled due to risk. Yesterday, the V.A. authorized a spinal cord stimulator implant trial scheduled for Tues. Chronic pain can drive you to consider taking extreme measures BUT it's no excuse for taking anyone's life.

[@SusanBaileyAmazingEstate]

@@duanelavely5481 I’ve had my stimulator for five years. It helps. It’s absolutely not the miracle it’s sold as. Your body gets used to it after a while. I let my battery go dead every month or so for a couple days. I’ve been doing research on stem cell treatment. They use your own cells and it’s done here in the US - not Panama or Tijuana lol. All of a sudden, stem cells are a thing. It’s expensive, no insurance. Shoot, I’d take out a second mortgage for relief.

[@deborahsherer1710]

Did you see how many people were happy? I was shocked. I agree with you, but there is a lot of that don’t. That’s scary

[@1greggie]

There may be a case for evolving in the future an acceptable scope for somewhat narrowly defined vigilante justice. This would be applicable to instances when the constitutionally and socially determined responsible institutions simply do not work, perhaps because of agency capture, lobby corruptive influence and political pressure, all of which btw play a role in the non-indictment of many rich and influential people who have ruined lives of others thru unpunished, even unlitigated economic or pedophilic crime-

[@alk555]

If it's lowerback, look into reverse hyperextension machines and roman chairs.

[@jennyrose2200]

Facing a lifetime of disabling pain has driven people to rake their own lives. 😢

[@toddhines3422]

If this guy came from a wealthy family, how come he had issues getting medical care?

[@Godhelphumanity-s6g]

Bravo, great question

[@AnneOfNYS]

Did he personally, or did he know somebody who was denied?

[@svjim1]

From his manifesto my take is he was on a quest for all people who have had problems with their insurance companies. An act to bring attention to the issue.

[@stephendiamond9893]

In Maryland under the affordable care act he’s no longer on his parents insurance at age 26 Sometimes adult children do become detached from their family and perhaps there was a falling out

[@stephendiamond9893]

In Maryland under the affordable care act he’s no longer on his parents insurance at age 26 Sometimes adult children do become detached from their family and perhaps there was a falling out

[@barbaraj.f5668]

Such a tragedy for the Thompson & Mangione families. One loss to a violent death & the other loss due to mental illness and incarceration. I began listening to you after October 7th. Thank you for your insights on a variety of important issues:) Hello from Canada 🇨🇦🇮🇱🇱🇷

[@bluebee5266]

What about the Bin Laden family? Do you feel bad about their "tragedy" too?

[@perandersson4528]

It's not impossible, withdrawing for six months, writing a manifest, maybe being fixed on something could be insanity.

[@likeariver2237]

Session was too short. One hour? Love it.

[@elizabethsilva6321]

I love Alan Dersh...a good man!

[@savemyrepublic]

After my first dose of opiate drug I was addicted. After years on legally prescribed Vicodin I was told new government mandates my days of this drug was over. OMG, a absolutely nightmare. I think i should have been hospitalized at least a month.

[@Godhelphumanity-s6g]

I see your point and I agree with it! The more we learn about him the more we understand. Thank you for the knowledge.

[@leeb.7188]

I’m sure his family members recognized him, but I don’t blame them for not ratting him out. I wouldn’t report my son, brother, etc. But I’m Irish. Family comes first. It’s not my job to help the government.

[@AnneHensley-zg2yw]

I am Irish also and love my family but I do not agree with you. This family were more concerned with their reputation

[@AnnetteBereznicki]

@@AnneHensley-zg2yw I wish people would stop blaming his family. How do you about their motivation? They are grieving and shocked. This is such a tragedy.

[@robertjenkins2740]

Always appreciate your honest , unbiased take! Love and respect from Niagara Falls

[@Godhelphumanity-s6g]

It is really heartbreaking to see him at his age to go through all of this!

[@ladyprudence6]

It was all self inflicted. The back surgery was due to surfing in Hawaii- expensive rich boy sport. He grew up Uber wealthy and privileged.

[@drcat1923]

Yes, so young.

[@thermalhill]

@@ladyprudence6The back condition existed prior to Hawaii.

[@urstandingonmyfoot]

Great comments Mr Dershowitz. I agree with all of your insightful comments.

[@ryleighloughty3307]

Professor, my Christian friends and I endorse your 'Jew-Talk'!

[@frankreynolds9827]

I'm a Christian and love the Jew talk and my Jewish Messiah

[@THX..1138]

I don't really care one way or the other. As a non Jewish, non Muslim American what goes on in the middle east is very uninteresting to me, but Allen is Jewish and it matters to him. This is his channel he should talk about what he wants, anybody who doesn't want to listen can go elsewhere.

[@jennyrose2200]

Savior is Hebrew not a jew

[@haroldsmith7044]

Same here. My family had Jewish friends when I was growing up, but we've all grown apart over the years. I miss having Jewish friends and love hearing the professor's "Jew Talk." 🙂

[@sherylbarry9143]

My first thought after ceo assassin was caught at McD, was schizophrenia.

[@SusanH4626]

Professor as a retired LEO when we arrested people we had to search incident to arrest for safety issues reference possible weapons. as a suspect of a homicide which a gun was used that is not unreasonable search. Also, when you book an arrestee into jail the corrections officer does a body search and all of the personal effects are inventoried and retained until their release. If they have contraband in their possession then extra charges are added.. Example bringing a weapon or narcotics into correctional facility is added charge…

[@charlesiragui2473]

I believe the issue is reading the manifesto's second page (of course the first page is readily visible) before obtaining a warrant and then entering it into evidence. So if it was one page long, there won't be a problem.

[@mrzalski]

Yes! Yes! Yes! The family not recognizing him in the pictures! That’s what I’ve been asking myself. WTF?

[@dogmaiamgod]

If you recognize your son in one photo but are sure it's not your son in others, do you turn him in? ;)

[@SandraWhitaker-vs2tm]

This young man strikes me as motivated primarily by resentment and then the desire to do something remarkable or "important." We shall see as more information is revealed

[@truffles2721]

Much like John Wilkes Booth.

[@debbiestover463]

Southern Baptist here. Keep up the "jew talk". I enjoy it very much.

[@Sheranian1]

When Alan says Jew Talk, I keep thinking he is going to talk about violins. I am Armenian and the Armenian word for violin is Jutak!

[@joemcbride3426]

I find anything you talk about. Very educational and interesting and enlightening

[@Lawyerforlife]

Shalom from Israel🇮🇱. Love your channel.❤

[@patrickc3419]

I fully agree how wicked insurance companies can be, but I’ve gotta say, the comments about this premeditated killing (through the safety of social media, of course) have been disturbing to say the least.

[@kymclayton9416]

Jew talk! Yes! Be a light to the nations💡🕯️

[@carlosalejandrorodriguez8221]

Lol.i am a catholic..I like the jew talk

[@amymalina5073]

This was very informative and interesting. Many thanks.

[@paulthomasshepherd5156]

How could an insane person work to prevent corruptly insane people from robbing sane people?

[@NickCager]

No. Planning, plotting, covering your tracks, escape plan... quite sure he knew his actions were wrong.

[@davepost7675]

Since his arrest was not reliant on the result of the "illegal" search, I think it could be argued that the evidence found in proximity of his person would have been found eventually so it should not be thrown out.

[@leeb.7188]

There was a civil case years ago in San Francisco where the defendant was an insurance company. The judge asked a prospective juror if he could be fair when the defendant was an insurance company. The juror responded, “Yes, I can be fair. They screw us; we’ll screw them.” The juror was dismissed, lol.

[@wesgoforth5644]

Professor, we are devout Christians, with many Jewish friends and proud of our Judeo Christian heritage. Thank you for your “Jew Talk,” conveying the truth and daily developments in Israel. Shalom.

[@SharkSandwich451]

No. No insanity defense because it was premeditated.

[@robertjacobsjr1]

Thanks Allen! 🙏🇺🇲🇮🇱❤️

[@chodkowski01]

The police did not go through the backpack. They brought it back to the station with him then got a search warrant before they opened the backpack.

[@GetSmartninetynine]

Yes, you are correct.

[@thermalhill]

@@GetSmartninetynineWhat about the report that it was a jacket and Monopoly money?

[@thermalhill]

Oops. I guess we're talking about the Altoona backpack.

[@GetSmartninetynine]

@@thermalhill Yes, the backpack he had with him when he was arrested.

[@mrtrent100]

Tish never walked a beat as a cop in NYC

[@danmcleod1360]

Most people have been denied insurance claims. It will be tough to round up an insurance-free jury.

[@swampsagacity4685]

What does that have to do with premeditated first degree murder???

[@willman9567]

Especially NYC.

[@rayklein1291]

People get denied healthcare claims in socialist countries too. Got worse after Obamacare.

[@your_very_best]

@@swampsagacity4685 exactly!!!!

[@sinatra222]

I've been denied insurance and I would still vote to convict a cold-blooded murderer and recommend a maximum sentence. What the hell is wrong with people?

[@Hallo-Hallo]

Thank you professor! 👍

[@suzannewhite758]

The final episode of Seinfeld show was about the Good Samaritan law in New York!!!😮

[@ronaldperry]

Laughing at that poor fat guy getting robbed. They didn't a thing.....😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@angellight9500]

Your valuable opinions about Israel and "Jew talk" are really valuable Professor. Do keep it up when you can.

[@PTPerry]

As an Evangelical Christian, I, naturally enjoy your views on Israel, but also enjoy the diversity of issues & subjects you present on your program.

[@12qwe349]

Of course he has an insanity defense. Any sane individual with his apparent intellectual capacity would have found a way to profit from the problem. Congressman Luigi the healthcare advocate perhaps. Throwing away a future as a vigilante is just plain crazy. 5150.

[@truffles2721]

Arrogant Narcissistic Psychopath

[@sylvanbear7125]

Indeed, keep up the "Jew talk."

[@keepussafeUSA]

I discussed that thought about why almost friend or relative didn't recognize and report him. Perhaps it was just so unbelievable to them that it was him based on him being a valedictorian, engineer, etc.

[@WinstonSmithGPT]

The photo in the hostel is clearly different from the photo at the shooting.

[@damianop100]

I'm looking forward to listening to this talk by the wonderful Professor Alan Dershowitz. I just viewed the young man's entrance into custody in Pennsylvania. He looks psychotic to me. Is that likely? He appears very different, the look in his face and eyes, from the way he did while giving his Valedictory Speech during his high school graduation ceremony. It appears to me that he has mentally snapped.

[@AnneOfNYS]

He is close to the age when young men manifest schizophrenic symptoms. I have no idea about an insanity defense. But he may need medication.

[@truffles2721]

How about evil 😈?

[@AnneOfNYS]

@truffles2721 Personally, I believe evil exists. I think when a person has severe mental illness, 3vL can result. But there are those also severe who are sweet as lambs. All I know is that we must safeguard our hearts. I think an illness and evL can coexist. Then again, with the sweet folks, it isn't there. I'm no theologian. This is just one person's thoughts.

[@francismccrorey4326]

God bless you sir, and have a great weekend!

[@alexdegaston422]

The best Defense strategy is to NEVER use violence. When the men and women of the Jury see that the Defendant is 100% non-violent then they will be more likely to say "hmmmmm this dispute belongs in a civil law case, not a criminal case".

[@ZenyattaFan1]

Do you guys like The Dersh? I love The Dersh!

[@kittys.8151]

❤you are super intelligent,I learn so much❤the Jew

[@pjyast]

My sister's best friend from Harvard and Harvard Law School is a public defender in Missoula, Montana. She leaving a ton of money on the table. Her husband is a firefighter.

[@KEVIN88GT]

She's from a wealthy family. Not everyone has that option.

[@willman9567]

I imagine the kid that's the vampire slayer will get a jury like OJ. Not mad at all. You should offer to be on his legal team.

[@IsabelleSt.Pierre-q2n]

We need more brilliant minds like you, professor. I wish I could have taken your class. Merry Christmas, professor.

[@stephendiamond9893]

Affluenza is a legal defense and has been used before

[@tywalraven4936]

He’s from a wealthy family who made their money from the health care industry.

[@steventao7020]

I am an Atheist Libertarian and I love Dershowitz and Jew-Talk

[@AnakNi_Mina]

IMO it is bad advice to delay extradition to NY. I would want to start getting my NY TIME-SERVED for the Murder i know i’m going to have to pay a price for behind bars. He could get a deal to be out in 12-15 yrs, he might as well start the clock ASAP !

[@suzannewhite758]

Perhaps the backpack was still on the back of Mangione, thus " on his person"

[@qstrian]

But I’m only two percent Jewish. Like milk, I’m 98% fat free. 😂

[@LoveandButter]

A family member does not have to turn in a suspect unless s/he is the family member is knowingly harboring that person.

[@Mustang85635]

I thought the same Alan! Why didn’t he just go to Mexico! He would have been long gone before anybody knew who he was!

[@TimothyBarrymusic]

If he didn’t wanna get caught, why didn’t he wear glasses and why did he write this incriminating manifesto?

[@AnneOfNYS]

Due to some cause, his reasoning is partially impaired. I think he knows right from wrong. But he needs a psychiatric evaluation.

[@frederickking1660]

Yea and shave those eyebrows off and pencil in new ones.

[@a.e.7988]

Very sloppy, he didn't think it through 😮

[@stephendiamond9893]

What’s interesting is he had $10,000 why $10,000 is it because that’s the amount that you don’t have to declare if you’re traveling abroad 10,000 and less? Was he headed to Hawaii where he has connections? Today the lawyer for Luigi had a press conference and claims his client wants to plead not guilty Breaking news it’s a ledge that he had $8000 US currency in $2000 foreign currency, but now the defense is saying that the money was planted by the police. He said “I don’t know where the money came from”

[@swampsagacity4685]

Sure….. Because the Altoona cops had that cash & foreign currency handy to plant on him because they knew he was going to arrive in their city and be identified for an arrest. Luigi must still be high on whatever drug he is using. 😂

[@stephendiamond9893]

@ we’ve seen in the past cases like O.J. Simpson, Casey Anthony, where the defense gets their clients off. You could be sure that the lawyer that his family has hired his top-notch with over 40 years experiencing criminal defense. One possible defense could be he suffers from Affluenza which could lessen the culpability (which is a legal and moral concept) of the crime. There is a famous case regarding affluenza, Ethan Couch case Where he mowed down 4 people.

[@madabuu]

Prof. Dershowitz: Hypothetical question. If a juror votes to acquit the "Healthcare CEO" killer because they agree with his view of health insurance companies, could that juror be held civilly liable for any later offenses he commits?

[@danielberg7644]

Just by looking at the pictures in the back ground it's safe to say Mr. Dershowitz is a serious Tretris player.

[@waitaminute2015]

Not treating chronic pain is life altering.

[@toddkorson8207]

It does not take a second to get a warrant!

[@debbiestover463]

Thank you sir for explaining the second degree murder charge question for me.

[@dogmaiamgod]

Skeptical and worried this is a frame up. The shooter was long gone and they needed to catch someone otherwise they would have copycats using the same blueprint. There is no evidence released yet which links the hostel guest to the shooter and Luigi was identified off the hostel photo. The shooter starbucks photo is clearly not Luigi, as Luigi has a very distinct unibrow while the shooter does not

[@alewicke]

My guess is either they disowned him prior to this or, they knew it was him but, wanted to talk to him before talking to the police.

[@truffles2721]

They may condone it?

[@douglasolsen6861]

Mother had allegedly filed a missing person on him

[@rachelbankman801]

Professor, could the assassin have refused to pull down his mask to show the police his face? Did the call from the McDonald's worker give the police probable cause?

[@a.e.7988]

No

[@lolalyle9333]

I seriously saw a young man a flight attendant who looked exactly like Luigi Mangioni. Other people on the plane were talking about it too. As a mother I would make sure my child went to a country where they couldn’t extradite him

[@peterkiviat9969]

The question is, does his family have enough status and money to pull off a Hinkley?

[@redwithblackstripes]

The Dupont de Nemours family is absolutely wild...

[@joeschmuccatelli2167]

Please add subtitles.

[@voiceofreason9238]

Use the red CC icon in KZbin to turn on Closed Caption. I tried it, it works.

[@Zen-one247]

Arrest all EPSTEIN affiliates .

[@c2225]

Funny joke that only a Harvard professor (not graduates) lowers himself to a level of defence of bad people 😂

[@as4202]

Could you talk more about the Ted Kaczynski case? My understanding is that he refused to be seen as mentally ill.

[@skiph3]

If he voted for Harris, most definitely insane.

[@donnav3270]

Main character syndrome. More a personality disorder than legal insanity. Raised to believe he was destined to be a Master of the Universe and things weren’t working out…. Sad but no excuse or defense for murder.

[@damianop100]

I don't think it's a personality disorder, but of course I can't be sure. As I said above, he has the look and feel of someone in the midst of a psychotic break.

[@dougiefresh04]

Exactly! Life gets tough when you leave the nest.

[@patriciafleming9707]

They got a warrant.

[@ceciliapreziose3783]

HOLD THE LINE NYers...............You haven't seen, heard, smelled anything, you don't know anything, don't enable the snitch

[@johnscott5105]

I also cannot imagine the family not recognizing him from the photos posted all over media. Will be interesting if the family provided any aid to him as a fugative.

[@ceciliapreziose3783]

so UHC had grossed 300 billion in profit..............how much profit do the other ins companies make.............and why is there profit. Shouldn't profit be capped???? Balance of "profit" goes to healthcare

[@stephendiamond9893]

Alan, wouldn’t you agree that if you are aware of someone’s identity and fail to provide that to law-enforcement when you know, in fact, they are pleading with the public to provide that information and you failed to do so wouldn’t you consider that to be harboring?

[@truffles2721]

It is not illegal, but it is immoral to withhold the information.

[@RatTerminator]

Law only!!

[@timw308]

I said the same thing... They knew.

[@gplank]

I’m Hindu and I also love the “Jew Talk.” :) Actually I like listening to anything Alan has to say. A brilliant mind and national treasure, any way you look at it.

[@RichClark-fk6qw]

Put one and one together AND call the family lawyer!

[@SandraWhitaker-vs2tm]

The title of "Jew talk" has me laughing aloud every time you say it!! Talk about turning lemons into lemonade; better yet, fighting fire w fire and then some!!

[@harrydeanbrown6166]

Dicey questions here. Having lived with an alcoholic who blamed her nasty behavior on beer, I vote with people who ask, "Who put the bottle in your mouth?" A history of drugs is no excuse. However, we have to ask if painkillers actually did interfere with the accused killer's brain circuitry and actually did lower his normal ethical inhibitions in some way (pardon the lack of precise psychological/anatomical/physiological terminology).

[@deedled4879]

If he isn’t extradited could it end up being first degree in PA?

[@lpagano77]

Professor, you remind me of my late Uncle Lucius, who was a brilliant and wise curmudgeon. I could listen to you for hours, as I did Uncle Lucius.

[@CandidOberverTX]

This saga has just begun. As more and more Americans’ insurance claims get denied, more and more support will grow for Luigi. Day by day. Tic toc.

[@stevemorse108]

The legal information was interesting in this presentation. As to the issue of the procedural point of whether the cops had the right to leaf through his manifesto or not given that his bag was not within his reach they DA could claim that they had a fear that the bag could contain an explosive device that could pose a threat to the public but then they should have called in a bomb disposal unit. If a mental condition was invoked how could one explain the meticulous preparation? The 1985 Clive Ponting case in England could be interesting in relation to jury nullification; Ponting clearly violated the Official Secrecy Act but was acquitted because the jury considered that his actions during the Falkland's war had been in the public^s interest.

[@SusanBaileyAmazingEstate]

Investigators should look more into his back injury from surfing. It sounds like he couldn’t get pain management or surgery cuz insurance denied it. I’ve been a chronic pain patient since 1986. It does something to you. He said he’d never have a normal life because of his pain. He mentioned specifically not being able to have sex. In his mind, it was forever. I can imagine a patient who’s young, healthy, fit, no obvious injuries - doctors could easily think he just wants drugs. He did other drugs, mind altering drugs, seeking relief. The dark energies he encountered wouldn’t help his mindset. And I think 26 is about when schizophrenia shows up. I think it’s insanity.

[@damianop100]

I think you're right. Look at him, he truly does look psychotic. No joke.

[@Odo55]

Well in all fairness to the family, Luigi does look like Joe Jonas and many Italian and Middle Eastern men, particularly with the hooded jacket and semi mask.

[@tedgraves6366]

Administrative responsibilities require documentation of possessions in the immediate area of the suspect. . . Searching secondary to police officer safety. . . Very strange to take-out someone under indictment, for other purposes not in regards to the information he could surrender.

[@pasttense352]

If this case goes back to New York? And is Bragg the prosecutor? And can we trust that he won't purposely throw the case so the guy gets off?