Does Barbarian need a nerf? Thoughts for Season 5 Diablo 4

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[@Rob2628]

Very detailed Class Balance Video for Season 5 by @wudijo We mostly checked the Barbarian Section. What you think guys, does Barbarian need a nerf? Original Video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3rVZ3-YaZ1sqZo

[@Brohsehf]

Bro, if you give me the spotlight to explain my thoughts and opinions on this game, I have a lot of good ideas just give me the spotlight buddy get off your high horse and just give me a chance here please

[@andreiga76]

I don't get why buff all classes to do tens billions of damage per second and this way all classes kill tormented bosses in 2-3 seconds ignoring any mechanics? I don't think PIT should be used as a benchmark for optimizing builds, it is only for pushing to see who can go further and upgrading the gear, at this moment tormented bosses (and Lilith) are the only measurable endgame activity regarding dps.

[@trollsearching8968]

A class in a gear based game that gives you two tempers per item is able to hold 4 weapons, two of which get double benefit from tempers that also mastwrwork up to level 12, and the question is do they need nerfed. #learntomath

[@jluis859]

and you missed the class speciality, more multiplicatives

[@WartimeConsigliere]

Delusional take, that's not how that works

[@trollsearching8968]

@@WartimeConsigliere that is how it works

[@exxoticpear6602]

@@trollsearching8968 blud you are so out of the making fam they buffed every other class but give barbs a huge nerf

[@trollsearching8968]

@@exxoticpear6602 see how above I pointed out objective items to highlight a particular area. I understand that you may feel the way you feel, and I am open to seeing the objective items you are referring to. Honestly. Share them. I could very well be wrong. Though the area I pointed out above is objectively true mathematically. I play all classes every season.

[@zachfern3190]

ROB! WHY DID BLIZZ NERF YOUR HAIR!?!?! Its not fluffy anymore!

[@jdddddddddddd]

No, they need to be rebalanced so that the skills are the main dish and not the garnish . Whirlwind should be doing the damage and not bleeds or tornados. Also tempers and aspects should be increased for other classes that don’t have 4 weapons like the barb.

[@tasandmnm69]

This is the winning comment right here.

[@Lukas_Daemon]

tempers need to be locked for each class because right now you can use a weapon on barb that was tempered on rogue. Because of that, buffing rogues tempers would also buff the barb

[@tasandmnm69]

@@Lukas_Daemon Very good point. Either give us all the same generic options or lock tempers.

[@akhsdenlew1861]

@@Lukas_Daemon well to be honest, The barb, or anyone , Not being able to Temper crit damage except the rogue, is DUMB as fuck. Like why is only rogue capable of tempering crit damage anyway? lol

[@Lukas_Daemon]

@@akhsdenlew1861 that is truly dumb. there should be a generic temper for all classes with vul dmg, crit dmg, etc.

[@arthas_stormr8ge877]

They are nerfing them so they don’t get shit for Druid and sorc not getting any fixes.

[@joelhodoborgas]

Yeah fr, they be like, we cant fix sorcs, just nerf the rest

[@lotlizard7735]

Sorc skill tree has nowhere near the damage multipliers that barb does. Our paragon is laughable at best. There are 7 boards 2 for each element and 1 universal/wildcard. We have 25~ rare glyphs. 3 of them use Int. (Our main stat) as the requirement for opening up the secondary bonus. Our aspects are a joke, there are 5 at best that are viable.

[@jadonarey9019]

It’s so funny to hear you desperately try to defend barb when he literally outlined with math they get multipliers over 50x stronger than other classes. Give it a fucking REST. Barb needs to be nerfed massively and it’s my favorite class.

[@mjdibella]

They’re nerfing me out of wanting to play at all. I am not a streamer, I don’t have top gear, and I can’t play 18 hours a day. If the game is tuned for streamers, I am tuned out.

[@dukenukem2480]

It’s not tuned for streamers. The game is super easy right now and fun. You want a game for streamers? Look at path of exile lol. That’s a game for streamers and no life’s.

[@MelosWoodlanders]

Play Diablo 3

[@tasandmnm69]

Diablo 4 is already too easy, it isn't tuning for streamers to tone down the outlier class that has infinite damage scaling. The game is still easy to pick any class and farm pit 101 without much effort regardless of class, they simply needed to turn down the class with infinite scaling doing hundreds of billions of damage in 1 click.

[@akhsdenlew1861]

@@dukenukem2480 POE is not for streamers, it's for no-lifers. D4 is for streamers, cus streamers can get easy triple GA items from their funs all the time untill they don't brick one.

[@mjdibella]

@@tasandmnm69 it may be too easy for people with several ubers. Since the game is coded such that most of us will never see an uber, I don’t think the game is too easy. There is another term for nerfing….it’s called ‘bait and switch’. More than once now, I have spent hours of my free time building a character, only to see it nerfed into unplayability. I don’t find that ‘fun’, especially during a limited-time season. I guess it doesn’t really matter, since I have already decided to give S5 a miss. It offers me nothing but nerfs and new ‘features’ that don’t interest me.

[@invincaspartan]

I don't think bringing other classes up to Barb makes sense, what are we going to do if we all have 1B DPS builds and can avoid all boss mechanics?

[@ambrosewetherbee8301]

You're absolutely right. The class difference problem isn't a matter of numbers. Multipliers can easily be adjusted. D4's underlying problem is that the gameplay design is under developed.

[@jasonlucia6682]

@@ambrosewetherbee8301 I'm largely convinced it's the 4k base weapon damage causing these problems. With such a large base damage, any differences in scaling are magnified tremendously. edit: another issue imo is the lack of any flat damage on skills. Having both flat damage and % weapon damage scaling on skills would give them much more precise tuning.

[@henrynguyen4315]

The problem is that theyve introduced a new system where monster damage + hp scale indefintely well almost anyway relative to player strength which is hard capped. Inevitably, this is going to lead to having to adjust numbers to ridiculous proportions in order to overcome this enemy scaling.

[@icebear3110]

If the classes can't do Pit 200, they aren't balanced yet, everyone should be able to do the hardest content in the game with their fully upgraded build, but that needs to be make without bugs

[@ambrosewetherbee8301]

@@jasonlucia6682 You're right but my point is that damage disparity is a surface level problem with D4 classes. The fundamental problem is shallow design of class gameplay. Damage disparity is solved purely by adjusting values in damage code. Gameplay design requires actual game design by the D4 development team. Hypothetically, let's say every class arbitrarily deals the same damage. The problem of shallow gameplay remains, as well as poorly implemented class features. For example, The Arsenal System idea was to represent the barbarian as a master of combat through allowing various combat options to overcome various enemy types. Instead, the Arsenal System is simply four stat sticks. You can use any weapon on any enemy with the only concern being damage multipliers, rather than weapon traits that only barbarians benefit from.

[@SponsoredbyPfizer]

They should just remove the barbarian class altogether because blizzard can’t figure out how to balance with all the extra weapon aspect slots they have.

[@istvanjuhasz210]

4 weapon slots, not haveing the dilemma to choose between 2H or 1H, same goes to Rogues, 3 out of 5 classes are much more limited in item slots, there will never be a good balance untill this exists.

[@kuja5809]

Problem is classes like sorceress has all it's skills nodes passive capped at 20-30% max and glyphs Meanwhile the barbs gushing wounds is unlimited so it scales too 300% to 5000% Yeah u can give sorceress extra ring slots or extra weapon slot but it will never match the barb that has no caps and also barb has 4 weapons and 2 of them are heavy weapons that get 60% bonus to its stats

[@lukebrady65]

There's someone high up at Blizzard who's completely biased toward the Barbarian class. They're pushing for strange things, like buffing them mid-season when they're already the strongest class in the game. That person needs to be replaced ASAP so they can start rebalancing the game and bring the other classes closer together.

[@duskairable]

No, that conspiracy,do you know how weak barb in Diablo 3,lmao the real reason is simple,the dev just don't play their own game. Flay build is remain hidden in ptr until the first week of season 4. If they play the damn game and not relying players to find out strong build maybe they can anticipated in PTR to balance flay.

[@lukebrady65]

@duskairable Why did they buff the Barbarian in the middle of the season? It's already the strongest class in the game, dealing billions of damage while other classes can barely reach a few million. I think someone high up is behind these decisions. I don't think it's a conspiracy.

[@ShaneMcGrath.]

@@duskairable Oh man, It was a struggle every season in D3, Some barb classes never got much love, Like Earth set until near the end of D3 and even then it was never S or even A tier in any season.

[@nerf_t]

@@lukebrady65 not just mid season, if PTR patch goes live flay will also be massively stronger than it was in S4

[@youngiew4111]

it's not just about barb. dev don't play the game or have 0 knowledge about what's going on. they just throw random adjustments into mid patch where shit builds get nothing massive and buffed the stronger builds for no reason.

[@yorg6664]

Not just nerf, huge nerf to bring it down to other classes.

[@____GoMeZ____]

its sad when I have a completely decked out rogue in the pvp zone and I cant even injure the barbs. They just look at me and one shot me. (50k hp, 70rez, 9250+ armor). It aint right man.....they do 100s of billions of dmg while other classes are only doing millions. This is the same Rogue that placed 65th place in the Gauntlet and can clear 120 pit easily. ITS A FRIGGIN JOKE!!!!!!!!!

[@Skooz]

​@@____GoMeZ____ok you just showed that you have no clue what to stack in PvP since you keep bringing up your pve stats. Go do some research, find out what to improve on your gear. Rogue is extremely strong in PvP.

[@emixxxen]

@@____GoMeZ____ Wrong! We have 80 not 70 resist as most of us are rocking Tyraels Might :)

[@____GoMeZ____]

@@Skooz yup so its completely fine that they can temper passives that put them over 100% Dr. Got it dude, you're a genius

[@TheGlobuleReturns]

Don't worry, there will be some new tech/exploit/bug to make Barb op in season 5 hehe

[@mactavish5500]

If you make barb the anchor point, trillions damage incoming.😅 Rob: we all agree that too much damage like in d3 is bad Barb nerfed Rob: why dont we just buff other class to do trillions of damage like barb, look at other class dps(damage per screenshot) they’re broken too! 😂

[@joshthebeastgod]

the fact that barb has never spent a full season being "bad" and that they occupy the largest majority of players in the game every season shows that they do in fact need some more nerfs.

[@ThreeBelowZero]

Barbs are getting nerfed because it was the only class that was getting all that damage ''legit'' from tempers and aspects. If you look at the rest of classes most of them are just taking advantage from a bug or 2 to pump their numbers like Victimize Rogues to be close to that level.

[@lastmonsta]

No, but it would be great to see them at the bottom of all boards and their best build is rated at best B against all other builds. So the dedicated Barb players who will still play know the pains of other class players.

[@kubazak7579]

Necro have useless main passives unless you play bone build. Problem is inconsistencies in the game with skills. Caps are bad and they keep "fixing" like half of the problem..

[@olegulanovskiy1792]

Yes, and its not a question, i played 2 seasons as a barb. Barb deals 100x dmg of other classes, and got like 200k hp and 300k AP with mid gear. Nerf barbs its a easy solution, turn down numbers for one class or balancing another 4 classes? Its just a wasting of devs time.

[@BloodyElbow707]

yeah they should just make everything less fun, and make it so all the classes feel like dog shit, thats the best solution.... LOL

[@Brii.Z]

@@BloodyElbow707 Well you know what's what they're likely going to do right? lol. They seem to have little to no interest in balancing or fixing sorcerer, so the solution then is to bring the Barb down to their level. It's unfortunate, but that is the way it works. Now if enough of the Barb players stopped playing the Barb and got on Blizz's case 24/7 about fixing other classes, then maybe there might be some headway. But as long as Barb players continue to play without caring about the health of the game, expect the Barb class to be decimated at some point to be brought in line with other classes.

[@tasandmnm69]

This game is already too easy and people actually want 5 classes just walking around 1 shotting everything. Not fun in my opinion.

[@zoolzoo4434]

newb wudi wants everything nerfed except rogue

[@mactavish5500]

I mean compare to barb, rogue seems more balanced.

[@dpolenz79]

He’s a constant whiner. The major thing he doesn’t take into account is that every single barb build is a point blank melee build. He’s playing ranged builds on rogue or moving at speed of light. You need that power to play that close to the enemy or you have POE where melee is utterly pointless.

[@tasandmnm69]

It doesn't matter where you stand if the class is consistently better than anything else and has near infinite damage scaling.

[@AlexandraSpeaks]

Blizzard agreed with wudi you're the noob who needs carrying

[@sathdk79]

They don't need to nerf barb. They need to add a similar power boost to the other classes. The issue with barb is the extra weapon slots. If other classes got extra bonus for their other slots, they'd be on a similar power tier.

[@Darkwolf12328]

Some classes just don’t have good key passes, and in the case of sorcerer, they don’t have good key passes or damage aspects

[@sathdk79]

@@Darkwolf12328 do you mean “key passives?”

[@SponsoredbyPfizer]

Some classes need to focus on mana regeneration, crit chance, lucky hit chance and cdr to even get close to barb’s built in synergy within the class. This plus poor damage multipliers, bad aspect synergies and less aspect slots means they will never catch up to barb unless they had more aspect slots then barb currently has.

[@Darkwolf12328]

@@sathdk79 yes

[@lilredthabest]

Rob should do video shitting on his class wudi ruined WoW back in the day i hope no one takes him seriously buff my sorc to barb level i don’t want to be ANYTHING close to rouges gameplay ( which i believe he has a MASSIVE influence on ) the latter part of his feedback was fair most of it was harsh but fair ig I still stand by the devs buffing my sorc to barb level asking for less is lazy of us as a community

[@user-uk3cf4cn5g]

who wants to run necro minions, literally the only decent build necros have. Where is the variety of builds. I wish people would stop trying to select the builds players should be running. We need more variety.

[@darkcore81]

people didn't like d3 because only a few meta builds could be played because of the strong sets. d4 with paragon system promised build variety. what do we all have now playing the same few top meta builds in d4 haha

[@5280Recreation]

I don’t really think flay and bash are “builds”. They’re god damn boring and basically broke compared to core. And Wudi just hates barb and talking about gushing wounds without context is misguided. Use it with rend and while good, it’s NOTHING compared to flay/bash or his Rouges scoundrels kiss build. No idea where he is coming from.

[@justinvelasco9296]

Bring the other classes up to where the barb is. The bar is so much fun

[@Chomp96]

you can't buff all the other classes to do 400billion damage with an attack, this for sure will break all the math behind the game multiplaying the problem, for example, if 100 build do 10 million dps, and 3 build do 10 billion dps, you can't take all the 100 build to 10billion, you start making the 3 build do 1 billion, and the 100 builds do 100million, next the 3 build do 700 million, the 100 build do 400 million, and so on, closing the gap as much possible, and THEN, when a good balance is set, they can easly start to make some buff to bringh back some power lost, maybe even at higher level then before, but the game have thousand of variable, you can't solve this problem in one patch simply asking for, "let's put the other classes to barb level", this can't happen

[@chris.maraxusvonkeld1760]

We had a Cap Meta in WoW over a decade ago. I think it was WotLK, where you needed external tools to choose the right gear to reach every cap and enchant everything right. That was so disgusting and disturbed gameplay a lot.

[@BloodyElbow707]

This is a revolving door with Blizzard, its been the same thing for 2 decades with WoW. If there is a good spec/build, it gets nerfed instead of raising the other classes/specs to that better spec/build. Its never gonna be different they still dont get it. I love D4, but its the same shit over and over again

[@slandarlxhli7919]

those legendary aspects on offhand weapons should only apply at 50% effectiveness

[@tasandmnm69]

I have always wondered why Barb aspect multipliers are all at least as high as the other classes when from the jump Blizz knew they were going to have a huge advantage in slotted aspects. They really needed to account for that.

[@captaincrossplay]

Yes! Nerf the fun out of the Game please 🥺

[@ivanrosseto9494]

agree with you, i think the others classes that need a buff, not the other way around.

[@dukenukem2480]

Guess you don’t want loadoats or core game improvements or more content. Because you’re telling them to spend all that time on re balancing 4 classes. Y’all don’t think. Just let them nerf Barb so that they can focus on the rest of the game and not waste time on 4 other classes

[@BloodyElbow707]

@@dukenukem2480 Ahh yess they dont have the resources to balance while adding other features.... Do you realize how fucking stupid that sounds LOL

[@ivanrosseto9494]

@@dukenukem2480 different teams and different people that does that. they should do it all. thats why we pay for game and ~subscriptions~

[@akhsdenlew1861]

In a season that Tempering is basically EVERYTHING that matters, barb will be the strongest since he can temper 4 weapons instead of 2.

[@YM-ex8hh]

To arms my barbs - nerf army is coming for you.

[@filipborring3239]

Personally I don’t want a nerf to barb, well maybe if it is something ridiculously op. I agree with the d4 team that other classes should be buffed to the same level as the barb. But if they wanna do this, why are they nerfing every class?

[@hunterstrong3318]

My biggest issue with paingorgerd is it doesnt translate unique properties of the attavks like hemorrage on necro making blood orbs

[@Kratos-nice]

buff other classes

[@Aka_daka]

Barbs need a nerf defintely for S5 if they are struggling to bring other classes up to the level without making them broken.

[@dpolenz79]

Who gives a damn if they’re broken. It’s a single player game. Nobody is getting paid.

[@Brohsehf]

No, there should be no more nerfs. I think every class should get booked and there should be only changes made. Every class should be strong. There should be no nerfing no making things weaker. There should just be making things stronger so we can beat the pit and make every class just as strong as the other.

[@user-iv3uu7zi2f]

That’s why we should have focused on other classes, rather than only focusing on barbs in PTR.

[@SWAMPY_G]

Yes. The current power level of barb is literally an ankle weight on the entire game. Other classes are accidently being nerved due to shared mechanics (banished lord for example hurting druid, etc). There is no reason to be able to 1 shot all the bosses. If barb was more balanced. It would allow the devs to get more creative with the other classes.

[@Araturion]

The problem is that skills like whirlwind doesn't do any damage. All the damage comes from dust devils, beserker ripping and Gushing wounds. They need to make the skills do more damage and aspects less powerful. You can't play whirlwind without dust devils, beserker ripping and Gushing wounds. Before the blood rage nerf my whirlwind barb in the eternal realm did 3-8 million damage without dust devils, beserker ripping and Gushing wounds, after the nerf it's doing 300k to 800k We are playing whirlwind with 1 point in whirlwind, we don't use dire whirlwind, edgemasters, limitless rage or ranks to whirlwind because they are useless when core skills are so weak. I do more damage when I press my shouts than when I press whirlwind because shouts spawn more dust devils. That's bad game design.

[@MightyVrek]

My barb suffered enough in d2. Now its age of Barbarian !!!

[@victorsoto4821]

Horker barb in d2 is goated

[@dale1890]

It depends on your outlook. Easy content buff. Challenging content nerf. The way it is right now I don't see how they can balance the game. Don't know if it's true but I read on a forum that sorcs health caps out at 28,000. I've seen a barb in a video with over 400,000. Don't know how you can balance that. In sorc videos that I've seen it seems that they have less than 600% crit damage. I don't remember the exact number but i believe your barb has at least one more zero on it, How do you balance that? They don't know how so they decided to cap stuff. I doubt it will be balanced but it might be closer. I also don't like caps but it's either that or they lower numbers. It's basically the same thing. Just without caps there could be a chance with lucky rolls that you could exceed it. I'd like to see where a fully geared with masterwork at 8 be able to do tier 101 pits. Then the individual could decide if they want to keep pushing. Right now a tier 101 isn't even a challenge for some builds while others can't do it. I farm tier 81 and haven't even tried higher. I can beat tormented Duriel and the 2 you need for Duriel solo. That seems good enough for me. I don't know how long they expect to keep this game going but season 5 seems a little early to let people be able to cakewalk the highest tiers already.

[@user-gt1ts6pj5o]

This IS D4 *Spartan kick* Barb needs not only more nerfs, but all hidden bugs and fake tooltips, like other classes! Sword master for example. Should work more like druid poison. It's just there to change all damage to dot, so it splits your lucky hits twice a sec to max time. E.g. 100% lucky hits should only proc about 1 in 1,400 hits. Then, you should have to stack 3 talents and 3 glyph paragon boards to use it a a slow and CC damage. Though it should also have a hidden cap that caps the max damage per tick to say 200 dam. For all stacks. Also, your damage types, seem to work and make sense. You should follow the druid. Storm damage. No way to scale it. So earth storm spells don't proc any lighting damage procs. Then make lighting spells NOT scale or use attack speed. Make the lighting damage procs you can invest deeply in. Only do BASE damage. And not actually aim at Monsters, unless you also have a unique. Then a unique to make that unique work. It's about time Barb's realised the biggest baddest challenge is being gas lit by the Devs, not actually creating builds n playing the game!

[@Telearian]

Such a shame everyone says nerf a class instead of buff the others....

[@Rob2628]

Totally!

[@danielpilarski4896]

It's because no matter how much we want to nerf barb devs will never do it and nerf builds that don't even play on barbs level like neceo minion builds

[@meteda1070]

From Blizzard's perspective, it's because fixing and balancing a single char to match 4 others is easier than fixing and balancing 4 characters to match a single. Especially when the single char is massively different than the others and has, for some reason, 4 weapon slots (but it's actually the same as having 6 slots since 2 that are duel wielding) compared to every other build gets 1-2 depending on duel wielding. Nerfing should only happen between seasons. I don't count bugs or glitch exploit fixes as "nerfs". Blizzard isn't beholden to your build that's dependent on exploits to work and I don't know of any game company that would be any different.

[@jordandavis7]

I think people say that because nerfing one is easier than buffing four

[@jasonlucia6682]

Barbs need to be nerfed, damage numbers and mob health are getting to absurd d3 levels and we haven't even hit the first xpac.

[@yb554]

I'm not really up for putting caps. To begin with, you need perfect gear to be able to do some of the things people do. It is nice to see what is possible, it becomes a goal for more casual players like me. How about just add something to others. How about... Druid: Add a Spirit Boon / Necromancer: Un-nerf it, and bring back the option of an auto-decrepify / Rogue: I don't know well enough, but I really wish Twisting Blades was viable again / Sorcerer: Like the Druid add another Spell Enchantment.

[@cclark2021]

No, nerfing is not the answer. Just bring the other classes and their respective skills to the same level.

[@joshuadoxen7586]

I'm really sick of Blizzard telling me how to play. Make a fun build ie BL sorc, or Charge/Hota barb, minion necro build, then nerf them into nonplayability for the next season. Where's the fun for the player?

[@partyrd487]

Keep all buffs. Cap nothing. Add 1 Amulet & 1 Ring Slot for all Druids, Sorc’s & Necro’s. Lastly, increase Sorc Critical Hit Damage to stack by 50% every time a defensive ability is used in close combat with a 10 second duration.

[@ronneloares]

I want Blizzard not to nerf Barb but make other classes on par with it. I know people that dedicated their life can have this billion damage but not average players. I'd like average players have the ability to solo or stand against the end game Bosses. The seasonal journey is too short anyway so why not give us the most out of it.

[@kryptonianj762]

I use to think it needed a nerf. Until I played it for first time last month. Spin to win baby, most fun I have had playing Diablo 4. The other classes need buffs and reworks to get them to the normal level Barbarian is.

[@lefgia]

Easy question, Nerf hp, nerf dmg reduction, nerf single target dmg by a factor of 10^3 , remove remaining double dips and there you have it. It still going to be a class with 2 more legendary powers, and huge statsticks with double 2handers. Alternative option, give to all the other classes perma immortality skills, single target bursts, and passive billion damage per second rotations.

[@roshunepp]

Every other class needs a rework so they could keep up with barb kit b4 barb is nerfed. Bc it's not just damage. It's how the skills are made. Extra damage and extra weapons that have more aspects.

[@user-iv3uu7zi2f]

G.W is actually not capped. but important thing is it is conditioned with too many ways. Bleeding should have been reconstructed in being used many increased ways with other aspects, such as edge master or others.

[@samus33529]

The problem with Barb is that he has so many item slots and 2 of his items slots are two-handed weapons. None of the other classes can build damage quite as easily because of it.

[@gatsusagara6637]

Forget about nerfing barb. They should nerf sorc some more. No, I think nerfing barb isn't the answer. They should rework the damage formula and how the glyphs and aspects interact to enable other characters to catch up. Barb shouldn't be nerfed at all, it's more useful to actually rework barb along with the others.

[@azzauzsan583]

lets be honest guys barb is ridiculously powerful right now...they literally immortal with 100k hp and 1b dps when the other class do like 10m dps and die from 1 hit...and yes barb need get nerf...or why cant blizzard buff all the other class to the same level as barb...why cant every class have a few 1b dps build for variety of build.

[@legendinthemaking1864]

Guys!!!! If u keep capping stuff, then we can't get stronger. We are all going to be stuck at pit 120 cuz we can't possibly get stronger cuz our maximum top end dmg is capped. That's what u aren't understanding To put this into perspective.... I literally have the absolute best set of gear with the absolute best complete setup and affixes and masterworking on all the perfect affixes, and WW/HoTa CANNOT go further than pit 121. I promise you... I cannot change anything to become stronger

[@MiCKEYDiAMONDSS]

Nerfs = bad Blizzard needs to buff the other classes up to barbs level so everyone can have hella fun

[@stressfree420]

Nerf them to the ground. Its not healthy when one class is doing 5000% more damage. The game becomes pointless when you just one shot everything.

[@dpolenz79]

You sound like a ton of fun to hang around with.

[@THEETERNALANGELX]

The problem is barb dominated so many seasons. Other classes must be brought to the level of barbarian, where in other classes will ultra dominate the meta with barb being the weakest of all classes for a few seasons, to bring everything into “BALANCE”

[@akhsdenlew1861]

u can't bring classes up to barb's level that easy. Barb has 4 weapons... which is already insane due to the extra legendary powers he can get. That problem was multiplied x10000 thanks to the tempering system. Barb can temper 4 weapons...while Others can temper 2 weapons... or even 1 if they have a 2h.

[@Thorgrimn]

I play necro, rogue, barb and some sorc. Wudi has become the example of why players think influencers are ruining the game. I totally agree with buffing up sorcs and flay needs to be nerfed for sure on PTR but I will say this about Wudi: His hatred of barbs has gotten out of control. He would be totally happy if barbs were nerfed into oblivion and his feedback about caps in general is boring and unimaginative. He also talked about pets doing too much damage and low a behold my necro got nerfed. I want other classes brought up to barb level because I play almost all of them and each to be unique in their own way. Wudi wants caps so we all get funneled into the same boring build. I found his feedback mostly exaggerations built on top of his opinion.

[@KillDozer44]

No buff everyone else

[@dukenukem2480]

Bad argument. They could spend all that time on improving the base game. Just bring down the 1 class that’s an outlier to allow them time to focus on more important things. Don’t you want loadout? How tf will they have time to work on those when they have to re balance 4 classes again. Think.

[@KillDozer44]

@@dukenukem2480 cry babies like you that want everything nerfed is what makes the game not fun and people quit. THINK

[@jart372]

Buffing other classes to barbs level is an absurd idea. Barb is overperforming other classes by huge margin, beside those that heavy relies on bugs (sorc, rogue). Well deserved nerfs.

[@vasili_pupkin_1]

This is impossible! The class who can carry x2 more weapons, which brings another HUGE buffs through their legenday abilities + MORE GEMS + almost ideal pasives and skills and thier synergies. Barbs literally like a TANK. All other classess can only catch up Barbs through bugs. This game is broken. Designers did fatal mistake with barbs.

[@LymeGreen04]

Yes. It's been the next class for the majority of the games life.

[@legendinthemaking1864]

Dude in order to make bleeds stronger you are supposed to DECREASE it's duration.... If u do 100k in 5 seconds.... And u drop it to 100k in 2.5 seconds.... Your dmg goes Up!!! Idk why we are wanting to increase it's duration

[@jorgeespejoruiz3842]

you want to increase duration to accumulate moore damage.if you will apply only the dot, you are right moore duration less dps. but if you use mechanics to apply all the bleed damage like rupture or aspect .... the moore duration of flay will exponent increase your instant damage via rupture and better the aspect bleed.

[@ericsiew1588]

The Barbillion nerf is what the game really needed, no class should deal billion damage as it breaks the game. Now this class is normalized as Barbmillions 😁

[@MrMark28]

I think this is the angriest I’ve herd Rob (atleast in vid) Then to top it off they did next barbs for next season. I disagree, I do t think generic items should be needed just because of barbarian. The board for barbarian should be readjusted before needing the generic items.

[@XCT82]

Yes Barbarian needs a nerf.

[@esvbanARPGs]

Sorc cant apply burns with tyraels might. Bleed is the best effect to scale generic flat damage items which means they will suck on any class than barb

[@Dexxxterity]

Not at all, they need to buff the other classes and their variants, needing things is ridiculous, they’re gonna ruin the expansion hype before the game comes out

[@Flower_rbx_1]

So if you have 80% or 90% damage reduction from 1 passive it's OK? There is no chance it is objective commentary. Gushing wounds giving 100x multiplication is called fixed. 😅😅😅 can you call it correctly - fucking problem.

[@garyjones8180]

Miss that beavis hairdo 😅

[@ErikByrwa]

Barb is still going to be strong, just not by 3 orders of magnitude.

[@craigmarshall9466]

Easier to nerf barb than buff 4 other classes tbf

[@AkA47Ak]

I don't think they need to nerf Necro.. necromancer sorcerers and druids need additional weapon slots. Sorcerers need 3 enchantments, and they need to fix the passive they suck . Even though if they nerf Barb they still can kick butt lol

[@MrAzzazaa]

Hey Rob ! What happened with your test of the Vessel of Hatred ?? Playing the SpiritBorn ?

[@全王]

video follows on 17th or 18th july

[@MrAzzazaa]

@@全王 Thank you" Rob " : )

[@Desten2]

Finally Somebody talks about Chain Unbroken, Iron Maelstorm, Steel Grasp, and Walking Arsenal Build!!! Thank you!! I hope they buff this build. Atleast make it viable to use for leveling ATLEAST!. Iron maelstorm is suppose to be a an ULTIMATE!! TF??? Always Bliz dropping the ball.

[@mikemcqueen9899]

Yes it does. I'm a barb main, in fact it's all I play, and I would be happy to see them just remove one of the two handers. The only real reason to keep it is to use walking arsenal which is dogshit anyways. and it looks bad carrying a useless hammer around on your back to boot.

[@kubazak7579]

I think that more slots in gear would help. Let barb have most of it but they should bring other classes to rogue level with amount of gear. They want us to use 2 to 4 uniques and we have 9 slots of gear when we wear 2 hander. Compared to rogue which can add two 1 handers to this and then barb with another 2 hander..

[@Amber-t4d]

It's simple people don't like barb being so popular

[@billdover3165]

Absolutely not. Because if they're going to nerf the barbarian they need to nerf the hell out of the druid and the sorc and the necro

[@jkz911]

As a sorc main, my opinion has always been no nerf, just buff everything.

[@dukenukem2480]

I don’t know what wrong with some of you guys. Yes we should OF COURSE nerf the barb which is clearly out of balance and way above the others. We’re not counting bug builds because that’s stupid. It’s way better and smarter for them to bring down barb instead of spend all that time and resource on trying to balance the other 4 up to barb level. All that time and resource and the mistakes they’ll make which will cause more time to fix could be used giving us loadouts, or give us more content, or more improvements to the core game. You guys screaming to just buff every other class are like people screaming for employees to work 4x as hard scrubbing a floor with their hands instead of 1 person using a mop and maybe the others can look at the mirrors or sink.

[@UniQue1992]

I think they should NERF all classes and get all classes more in balance with each other. We are doing way too much dmg and are way too strong this early in the game. We have an expansion coming up which will probably give all classes another insane buff. Nerf all classes.

[@WartimeConsigliere]

The Barbarian nerfs are a giant L. Nerfing the only functional class is pathetic. Can't wait until PoE2 releases and destroys D4 once and for all.

[@QuantumVoid1]

jealous rogue main wants barb nerfs who woulda thought lol. stopped caring about wudijo opinion awhile ago. bring other classes up to the barb level. they said they would do this and still have not.

[@Anderson-zh7xy]

Yes absolutely they should nerf Barbarians and bring the ceiling of power down a lot. It's not healthy to have classes one shot ring everything and ignoring mechanics. It's not healthy to have super high level Pits as the only challenging content. They should scale down power a lot because right now it's a mess.

[@caseystrong9582]

No, they just need to buff the other classes. It's ass backwards, devs see people enjoying barb, yet other classes are miserable and they keep nerfing other classes while buffing the barb builds that aren't being used. Make it so all classes and all builds are viable, stop this bullshit, nerf the overpowered/overused builds and buff the new builds that coincide with new uniques. Make everyone happy with whatever class they want to play. Don't make gameplay miserable for people.

[@michelosbelmont]

Did they just killed "gushing wounds", or its just rumors?

[@vogiassssss]

they have to remove him 1 of 1handed weapon from arsenal system, if not barbarians will be the most overpowered class in every patch and ofc me personally will roll always barbarian cause i wanna have the most overpowered builds, 4 weapons 2 with 2handed(double value) x8 tempers and masterworking why not :)

[@Giuliano-ju9vh]

I wish you spent that much time in the other classes all those 4 seasons, just accept that the bard is getting nerfed and it's about time they do so all classes must be on the same line in terms of dmg I'm glad they're going to nerf the barb, good job blizard!

[@Zederok]

I'm 100% in favor of a Barb nerf and I main Barb. The class overperforms time and time again. But the key is not to nerf their 4 weapons as that has always been a core part of Blizzard's theme for the class in the early stages and it led me to main'ing the class myself due to this unprecedent concept. Nerf the class tempers and aspects.

[@baldis12]

100% yes it does. Everyone knows. Not even remotely hard to answer.

[@ricogaming2047]

They gonna nerf this game into the ground

[@d4mephisto]

well. it's official. wudijo got barb nerfed. gushing wounds is nerfed now, going from [x] to [+] also, unbridled rage being nerfed to only 45% [x] dmg (lol why???) thanks Wudijo, our class is now dead source: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYvYeJejgN50d68 (from a Diablo Partners discussion with the D4 developers)

[@dfillio8993]

No they do not need nerfs there does not need to be nerfs in a pve game buff other characters and stop capping stats that is the only answer

[@cent83]

The upcoming nerfs to barb makes me have ZERO interest in S5 or DLC. Its the first Season bleed (my favorit build version since release of the game) works and makes tons of fun. And now they just destroy it again completely just because of jealous other class bots. There are plenty of other classes out there with very good builds. They just sound like jealous little kids being too stupid to make builds for their favorite classes. And blizzard is just too lazy / stupid to buff other classes properly. S4 was great fun, best since release and now they ruin it again, unbelievable.

[@maximebizz8465]

What about current gear with barbarian protection is it insta bricked if we spend billions buying the item and billions tempering it.

[@bennettml]

Wudijo hates players is my conclusion. I ve lost interest in his content long time ago. Just my opinion. Many of his opinions really miss the point. Also, doesn't he only play hardcore? It is widely considered that character death is nothing in softcore. It is not true. It makes me unhappy whenever my character dies. I am actually considering playing hardcore, and I will not do anything risky unless I have enough those scrolls or stuff that can save you. lol

[@AlexandraSpeaks]

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