Does Capcom Truly HATE Mega Man? - Examining the State of the Franchise in Early 2024 - Mega News

[@papaG6423]

How has Mega Man been simultaneously so active and yet so dormant? The franchise is in such a weird state of purgatory at the moment... I don't even know how we got to this point

[@davidgusquiloor2665]

AAA gaming cost a lot more than before and AA gaming kinda died for a decade, only recently is getting back. Mega Man fits better the AA mold.

[@kaizoku8087]

@@davidgusquiloor2665Are you talking about batteries?

[@NetBattler]

​​@@kaizoku8087no he's talking about triple A games. These games have high budget and most of them have bad quality imho.

[@carlosaugusto9821]

I have trouble talking about franchises that only get ports of very old releases and don't get new games. It barely can count as "alive" since it's living only through the nostalgia appeal of its golden age. It's a kind of zombie state. It's not considered valuable to gain a new game but still is convenient to use for retro rereleases and not being abandoned. Also Capcom is known for these nostalgia exploits for a long time, and not only with MM. Including the fact that very rarely the sales of those products have any important result. Ok, the video shows that MM11 apparently was made thanks to the sales of a collection... but that doesn't always happen, or even most of times. And there's still the chance that the guy wasnt being honest but trying to motivate the fans to keep buying more collections in the hope of getting new games. Like, now they are even near running out of options for MM collections and nothing happened. Not a hint of interest in even a remake of a classic game. Just like Capcom's arcade game collections that keep coming out never led to a new game. So it's nothing but abusing the hopelessly good willing fans with nostalgia exploit.

[@FezFindie]

@@NetBattler Often style (and overcosted celebrity voices) over substance?

[@elmegahippiex9]

It is true that Capcom no longer trusts Mega Man as a commercial product, but I still have faith that in some millennium they will release the x9

[@markvermo7523]

Yeah, Megaman will never make money as much as MH and RE. The only future for Megaman is Legacy Collection, we must keep buying Legacy Collection so they will release more Legacy Collection.

[@TayoEXE]

​@@markvermo7523It might if they actually made new games (heck, even remakes) like they do with MH and RE. Of course Mega Man isn't going to be as big of a seller if they've canceled more games than they've actually released in a single decade.

[@kaizoku8087]

And legends 3 And BN7

[@carlosaugusto9821]

The thing is that X9, after so much time passed, became kind of inviable or inconvenient, and that situation aggraves more with time. Since a long time now I've been wondering if the best path for X wouldn't be actually a reboot-remake of this story arc of X7-X8. And then, with the context properly set to the audience, the true continuation would be made more meaningful. Maybe it would be better to "overwrite" and abandon those two embarrassments that were X7 and 8. Speaking for myself, I refused to play both to beat even half of the bosses, and I'm a big fan from the early 90s games. Those two PS2 games are absolutely shameful and I'll never respect them. Like, if I'm not mistaken X7 was released in the same time of Onimusha 2, and X8 in the same time of DMC3 and RE4... but they look like from a much smaller and amateurish company. So make something new that make people forget about those two old games, and just take the major plot points and characters.

[@carlosaugusto9821]

The thing is that X9, after so much time passed, became kind of inviable or inconvenient, and that situation aggraves more with time. Since a long time now I've been wondering if the best path for X wouldn't be actually a reboot-remake of this story arc of X7-X8. And then, with the context properly set to the audience, the true continuation would be made more meaningful. Maybe it would be better to "overwrite" and abandon those two embarrassments that were X7 and 8. Speaking for myself, I refused to play both to beat even half of the bosses, and I'm a big fan from the early 90s games. Those two PS2 games are absolutely shameful and I'll never respect them. Like, if I'm not mistaken X7 was released in the same time of Onimusha 2, and X8 in the same time of DMC3 and RE4... but they look like from a much smaller and amateurish company. So make something new that make people forget about those two old games, and just take the major plot points and characters.

[@TeddyBebado]

I will say it again: lack of communication is our main issue here. Heck, if Capcom would pop up, saying, "hey, we are cooking something, be patient", a lot of us would be more calm. Not a trailer, not a concept artwork, just a "something is coming" would suffice. That is all we ask for.

[@kakizakichannel]

Why does Capcom owe you this?

[@RaphielShiraha64]

You don't need to own something to a company to make them treat their fans better and with proper communication.@@kakizakichannel

[@vvbvgeneraltsung2913]

​@@kakizakichannel they've been on a flop streak as of recent especially wasteing all that time om xdive just to make. A 30$ NON ONLINE PORT WITH EVRRYTHING INSTEAD OF JUST MAKING A MULTIPLAYER MEGAMAN LOOTER SHOOTER THATS FUN

[@ABlob]

@@kakizakichannel Because they were betraying fans again and again, so actually building some trust with their fanbase would improve their public image, especially now.

[@ImJCyo]

@@kakizakichannel Who the hell do you think buys their shit? People like you who don't understand how basic economics work should just sit down.

[@NameGueSapeYe]

I left a comment at the end of the survey, "Rock on, Capcom! Hint hint..." All I can do at this point.

[@robinsr4745]

I feel like some classic megamn content is a lock after the survey but i have no idea if they will work on a future megaman x project anytime soon.

[@everrunic8375]

Bro how are ya’ll so spoiled. Like have you seen the current state of dino crisis?

[@mercenarygundam1487]

@@everrunic8375 Never grew up with Dino Crisis it but DAMN. I would love it if Dino Crisis got a sequel with X/Zero as a hidden playable character. Brings both fandoms together.

[@Blues_Light]

Even having lived through the dark age, I'm pretty optimistic about a new title sooner rather than later. I don't think Capcom will do us that dirty again...right?

[@NetBattler]

Megaman deserve Mario wonder treatment..

[@bezoticallyyours83]

🙏🏾 hopefully not

[@gunvolt5246]

I wouldn't get my hopes up

[@NetBattler]

@@gunvolt5246 I mean it's not hurt to imagine such a thing...

[@gunvolt5246]

​@NetBattler Nothing's wrong with imagining new Mega Man titles, but between the first "dark ages" period and this current wait, we have to go through after 11, I just think it's better to not expect any new Mega Man related content from Capcom at this point (at least not for another long while).

[@NetBattler]

Bro dropped a bomb and thought we wouldn't notice it.

[@Reploid_Z_Jackson]

Personally, I feel like you talked about this in a much better way Not trying to Dunk on other people, addressing this situation about whether or not MegaMan is dead or not I feel like you Addressed this pretty good & professionally, whereas others Who Cover this issue tend to Overdramatize the situation while I do agree that Capcom Needs To do more, everybody tends to be So Dramatic & Make it Seem Like It’s All Doom & Gloom, so this video is something I Kind of Needed, & it’s Easy for me to digest,

[@neonthunder3261]

Too many people overdramatize it. It's hard being a Mega Man fan when it feels like the more civil parts of the fanbase are the quietest, though I guess that goes for everything.

[@papaG6423]

I 100% agree. The thing is, while the series isn't providing for us in the way we were wanting/expecting, Mega Man is in a much better position than most of Capcom's other IPs. I mean, the series has proven its profitability to Capcom in a vast multitude of ways since the classic legacy collection. It's very likely that a new game will come EVENTUALLY. The real problem lies within the management of the series rather than if it's just straight up a dead IP or not. It it was dead, then we wouldn't have gotten so many collections, merch, plug n plays, crossovers, a cartoon, mobile game, a movie in the works for Netflix, etc. It's just that Capcom isn't focusing on the most important aspect of this series... Original games. In their mind, they've been providing us a ton of content, but they don't see just how lame it is to be getting everything BUT the one thing we truly want. TL;DR: "Mega Man is Dead" is overdramatizing the situation, but there's definitely an issue in the release/content management of the series.

[@neonthunder3261]

@BassRockarchives 🗣

[@MagillanicaLouM]

@BassRockarchives "the frustration that almost every franchise is getting something but Megaman isn't" I agree with 99% of your comment. But it's just this part opened my eyes to how much the overdramatic side of Megaman fanbase only compare it to only the few other Capcom series that do get games and don't seem to know how relatively good they have it in the grand scope of Capcom. Man I wish I lived in the timeline where Power Stone, Viewtiful Joe, Final Fight, Breath of Fire, and many others could JUST get modern/ports collections with cool QoL and features like galleries showing off concept art and merch and places to just jam to the music, and trivia sections, not even brand new games. Compared to 2012-2018 Mega Man is still eating quite a bit, game community just too hungry for new and shiny things and love going "doesn't count" to anything else.

[@bezoticallyyours83]

👍I honestly don't want to hear my fellow mega man fans moaning too much. Especially when there are truly dead franchises out there, and those that are on life support. We got him in SSB, a new game in 11, a (so-so) mobile game, port collections, plus we get shit tons of merch every year. Try being a kid icarus fan.

[@squallleonhart9387]

The amount of consistent content that Sonic has been getting after the success of the movies and frontiers, Megaman fans would be on the moon if they got what Sonic fans are getting.

[@KalizWasTak3n]

a megaman movie that succeeded would probably be amazing for the ip but knowing capcom that would never happen

[@Gyrokun]

​@@KalizWasTak3nit was gonna happen at one point 😢

[@orangeslash1667]

@@KalizWasTak3n Mega Man sales was not on the same level as Sonic, even at 2010.

[@codyraugh6599]

On the moon? We want off it damn it.

[@orangeslash1667]

​@@codyraugh6599 Sonic is Sega's mascot. Mega Man used to be Capcom's mascot but now it's Street Fighter, Resident Evil, Monster Hunter and Devil May Cry.

[@Chrisezo]

I don’t think Capcom hates Megaman, in order for you to hate something you have to care about it, but with Capcom they are just indifferent towards Megaman and has always shown they don’t really care. After the release of the 1st Megaman they didn’t even have any sequels planned out for it, if it had been up to Capcom itself the series would have died out back then, the only reason we even got Megaman 2 is because the developers for Megaman 1, were still very passionate and dedicated to making a better game than the first one, that they used their free time in between other Capcom projects, just so that they could develop Megaman 2, and when that game had a pretty good version made, Capcom released it without thinking it would even sell good, but they were pleasantly surprised with the results, which is why they basically milked the series to death, and if Capcom had cared about the series then they would have given more funding and even additional develop time, in order to make the games a better quality than what they usually were, but unfortunately that was not the case, and the series as a whole feels rushed and unfinished, since a lot of games do have good ideas and concepts, but because of a lack of proper development time they just compare to early access games, like the ones you can find on Steam, and the worst of it all was that Capcom basically made Megaman compete with itself, since each of the subseries basically rivaled itself, and it was crazy for Capcom to release so many different Megaman games within a year, and then expect fans to be able to afford them all, when the audience most of these games were selling to were basically kids and teens, and its not like that audience is part of the work force which means that the series’ lack of sales is none else’s but Capcom’s itself but they will never admit to it. I can appreciate that the collection games are being brought to modern consoles and systems, but I wish that they weren’t called collections, since they are missing many games such as the X collections missing stuff like, X Command Mission or Maverick Hunter X and the Xtreme Gameboy color games, while classic is missing the Gameboy games and even stuff like Megaman & Bass, but nobody seems to talk about that stuff, and are ok with Capcom just doing whatever they feel like, and then trying to defend them in most cases too, when if they are trying to sell us something, then they should be more convincing, and we should expect more rather than less.

[@NetBattler]

Also Capcom Japan even goes miles to tweet a picture of Megaman in the survey...

[@gertytk5528]

X8 hinted at a sequel twenty years ago more than 11 did five years ago.

[@ImJCyo]

I don't think the Covid argument stands up anymore for the following reasons: 1. Mega Man games, by your own admission, are lower budget titles that don't take too much effort to make. 2. Da Virus doesn't seem to be stopping them from pushing out more Resident Evil, Monster Hunter and Street Fighter, so remote workers aren't a problem. In fact, I'd go as far as to say remote work has actually raised worker's efficiency overall across the board, the problem is that Capcom doesn't want to do it. If they did, they would. Really, all we all really want is for Capcom to tell us what the hell is happening. They don't have to communicate TOO much, just give us a poke every anniversary to let us know what their Rock plans are. It's not hard to spare a few minutes to issue a statement on the series status.

[@KyogresHideout_Vegito2121]

Exactly

[@MagillanicaLouM]

Well at least with street fighter, it's not been too simple. The newest game in general had a very troubled development, it was supposed to come out a couple years earlier, but internal issues and (I'm sure the coov didn't help) caused problems. Funny enough though, the guy heading MM11 was on SF6's development. Considering he left I think very close to the game's launch, I'm thinking there's some connection for why Megaman is taking a little longer than expected for a new title, but it's just me speculating.

[@Soul_May]

I don't think you know how dev cycles work. Neither are you paying attention to how those franchises have been handled. The fact mm11 was a budget game does not mean that it takes less time of development, it means that there's less people working on it. Which goes hand to hand with people wanting them to be more open with fans about the state of the franchise.

[@ImJCyo]

@@Soul_May they're his arguments that make no sense.

[@RippahRooJizah]

​@@ImJCyoHis arguments make sense. Yours does provided you look at *just* covid and not on staffing and development.

[@CarloNassar]

8:51-8:59 Mega Man as a waifu simulator???? Uh oh, we're in trouble. Also, I totally agree with you on the amount of content that was pushed about, and I'm glad I'm not the only one to compare Mega Man to Call of Duty in that case. Though I'd say it was a problem even before the 2000's. But honestly, maybe Capcom should do more marketing and advertising for the franchise.

[@subjectnivleis7572]

I demand an Iris dating simulator:) What am I fighting for :)

[@TheKitty699]

it's going to be Meddy fans vs Roll fans all over again

[@codyraugh6599]

​@@TheKitty699the Chad Tron fans, "look at what they need to mimic a fraction if our power"

[@kolkagaming1234]

At the end of August Capcom wrapped up Megaman X dive, so that means we will get either a new game, new remake or a new collection hopefully which I’m looking forward too.

[@condimentman9533]

At least the zero series is a complete mega man series as it had an end in zero 4

[@wolfdragox5563]

and BN too

[@Uranium-jj7le]

@@wolfdragox5563Star Force as well…

[@NetBattler]

@@Uranium-jj7le but isn't star force series still not ended because sf4?

[@capstalker5539]

​@@NetBattler SF3 doesn't leave any suspense, so you can think it's complete.

[@bezoticallyyours83]

Yup yup

[@renegademikey2458]

We need an obscure collection series covering games like MMV GB, Super Adventure Rockman, Battle & Chase, Rockboard, Soccer, MM&B & MM Legends 1 & 2 and a Vol 2. including Powered Up, Maverick Hunter, Xtreme 1 & 2, MM Power Battle & Fighters, Rockman & Forte: CFTF & Rockman EXE WS. Heck a Vol. 3 including Tron Bonne, Network Transmission, Battle Chip Challenge and all Star Force & Command Mission.

[@bezoticallyyours83]

Yes!

[@Low_Standards_Gaming_YT]

The comments about the view of the series outside of the fandom is spot on. I can’t count the number of times I’ve worn a Megaman shirt and gotten the comment “Aw yeah dawg, I loved that on the Nintendo back in the day 99% likely referring to either 2 or any of the other nes titles coming home from a rental shop. Many are dumb founded to know about the other 80 games lol

[@SolCresta3405]

Considering how much they treat MegaMan Volnutt, one of the kindest and nicest characters in general…

[@NetBattler]

Dang it

[@SolCresta3405]

@@NetBattler I know.

[@MrIAMNOTANOOB]

I watched a video called The Frustrating Culture of Dead Video Game Franchises. According to what TBP researched no Mega Man has ever sold enough copies to be on Capcom's top ten best sellers.

[@Elazul2500]

Yeah, I saw that video, too. Apparently, only a handful of Mega Man games has sold more than 1 million copies, whereas Street Fighter, Resident Evil and Monster Hunter sell like hotcakes with pretty much every release.

[@Dramatic_Gaming]

Yep. Pretty much the long and short of it right there. Not to say that capcom doesn't shoot themselves in the foot with some stuff (battle network & star force's release schedules and unneeded extra versions), but at the root of it is that Mega Man games just don't bring in the big bucks.

[@memesandhoi2924]

To be fair, at least Mega Man is now considered to be the 4th Best Selling franchise on their Franchises Sales page.

[@MagillanicaLouM]

@@Dramatic_Gaming Well there's a difference between not bringing in big bucks and just simply being surrounded by stuff that make more money lol. Even then, something like Monster Hunter to my knowledge took a very long time to reach the point it's at. It wasn't a hit at all when it first came out from what I've heard about it. As much as Capcom has shown a very money grubbing image at various points with certain controversies, I don't think the reason for Megaman's current situation is purely financial. Especially when the main man behind MM11 left the company a little bit ago, it may just be behind the scenes stuff we'll never learn about till relevant parties tell, if they do.

[@NetBattler]

@@Elazul2500 um..not monster hunter stories though

[@itzbruhere]

I'm really happy to see that we are still fully active in the community producing videos about the franchise. I'm a content creator focused on Mega Man here in Brazil and I had already made a video talking about the current situation of Mega Man. I don't know exactly what to expect from now on, but still hopeful for something new. But I really have one thought that I want to see in practice: CAPCOM URGENTLY NEEDS TO COMMUNICATE BETTER WITH THE FANS! Of course we had that survey suggesting remakes of Mega Man 1 to 3. Would you accept it? Yes, but I want sequels to each saga. There is a lot of discussion about Mega Man not being famous, but how is he not going to be famous if the company itself doesn't invest in him? CAPCOM needs to have the balls to return with the mascot.

[@nnickplays9713]

With the current era, i kinda dont mind the franchise being in hibernation. With modern trends itll just wind up like Suside Squad:ktjl and be a brand wrecker and id rather wait till this dark cloud passes by.

[@NetBattler]

Care to elaborate?

[@IfYouInsist]

A lot of new games are pretty bad/mediocre. The new suicide squad game being a big example. Pretty sure he is saying he’d rather wait for the current trends to pass before the franchise comes back.

[@NetBattler]

@@IfYouInsist pretty sure everyone will welcome Megaman because he has been hiatus in 5 years...

[@orangeslash1667]

@@NetBattler I recommend the Azure Striker GUNVOLT games as successors to the Z games. I recommend ABYSS X ZERO as a successor to Legends.

[@NetBattler]

@@orangeslash1667 and what does that have to do with my previous comment?

[@VCXZ883]

Yearly releases are what put the Mega Man franchise on ice in the first place. As much as I love the GBA era and having a ton of new Mega Man games, it did lead to burnout among gamers and accusations of stagnation.

[@multi-milliondollarmike5127]

It's honestly crazy that they were releasing a Megaman game and it's sequel in the same year at times. Not even a year and a half or 2, but within the same year. The oversaturation was crazy back in the early 2000's; but now I think they need to at least release a new game in the franchise every 3 years or so. Just releasing collections alone isn't enough in my opinion.

[@orangeslash1667]

@@multi-milliondollarmike5127 The problem is that Mega Man games are about gaining 8 power ups in every mainline game. Very hard to keep fresh.

[@redstreak9430]

29:03 God why does Adam Sessler have to be so pretentious. At least he’s been consistent with it and it wasn’t just a heel turn when the G4 revival happened lol

[@HenshinFanatic]

Comes with his political ideology.

[@Jetstorm0000]

Capcom doesn't hate Mega Man for sure, but you also can't really feel like they care about it right now either. Covid and other extenuating circumstances has really put the franchise in one hell of a tight spot. Now were looking at a scenario where a frighteningly similar amount of time will have passed between new full releases as the "Dark Age", but with the critical difference that this time there has been a more significant build up of fan expectation from the scraps of info we've learned both from official sources and the data leak mean people know SOMETHING was supposed to be coming. We're about to reach a dangerous intersection where unexpectedly raised fan expectations due to a lengthend dev cycle, is going to meet with what Capcom has been working on for roughly the last 5 years, and while there's hope that those things can merge relatively smoothly into a single path, there's an ever growing risk of a bloodbath of a collision the longer it takes for Capcom to show up. Of course that's assuming Taisen is still coming at all. Frankly, it depends on how much money they sank into the project by the time trouble began to hit. Remember, Capcom is a company where projects NEED people to champion them to get pushed through (even RE/MonHun, but there's no shortage of talent chomping at the bit to touch those), and Taisen very likely lost its champion when Tsuchiya got put on SF and then left. Unless they put too much in to back out now, there's a strong possibility that the reason we haven't heard much is that the project had the plug pulled, and they won't say a thing about it because they know damn well how bad the optics is gonna be if they have to announce that another MM game got canceled AGAIN. You can hold out hope for Taisen if you really want to, but you all need to be braced for the very real possibility that at this point there may be nothing on the horizon for a while, pehaps even longer than the old "Dark Age" at the rate we're headed, and they very likely won't speak a word about it until they have something else to show.

[@NetBattler]

Megaman is in hiatus status period.

[@ROCKMANX9_]

MEGAMAN X9 2024!

[@OmegaCorsair]

It's been 20 Years....

[@NTBXP1]

It will never happen.

[@carlosaugusto9821]

Forget it already. Change your username.

[@ROCKMANX9_]

Crash Bandicoot 3 took 22 years to get 4. 1998 to 2020. I'm not giving up.

[@AoiTachibana]

i dont know about 2024, but i believe we'll see it someday

[@kolkagaming1234]

Capcom doesn’t hate Megaman, in fact no video game company hates their franchises, Capcom in their recent interview did say they are planning on what to do with the Megaman franchise, they haven’t abandoned it, but they are planning on a new game.

[@ryohhibikithe9thhokage532]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm WHERE THE HELL HAVE I HEARD THAT BEFORE WHEN IT COMES TO MEGAMAN

[@NetBattler]

Also they're doing survey right now to remake classic games

[@ryohhibikithe9thhokage532]

@@NetBattler may I kindly point you to "XBOX ARCADE" where franchises go to die sometimes

[@NetBattler]

​@@ryohhibikithe9thhokage532? You're onto something

[@sonikkun5756]

That's bad, tho?? They were working on a new game in 2019. They shouldn't be "planning on what to do with the series", they should be finishing the 2019 project.

[@GrayvyFellow]

I did leave a comment on Revo's video where I was airing out my woes and frustrations. I do feel pretty guilty of neglecting the fact that the dry spells and time between releases did highlight a lot of other things around the franchise and other games influenced by it. It did give me some time to give some of the past Mega Man ga+mes a good go and really come to get to grips their specific nuiances for those I'm familiar with and finding gold with those I've not touched much at all. On top of the stuff like looking forward to what comes out of Gunvolt or Gravity Circuit among looking back at Rokko-Chan, Touhou parody fan games as well as Rosenkurezstilette (I still struggle with that name) has given me new found appreciation of those games among seeing various fan works and what not blossom. Hell I'll even say seeing that humble bundle threw me off guard like damn that's (mostly) a steel! ...Though again I still can't neglect the grievences. Capcom dropping the ball with a lot of their other franchises big and small doesn't help along with the backlash fans have given with relative unity when it comes to the Enigma DRM thing. I do agree that it's an over reaction but more so on both the fans part as well as Capcoms own part. Just slap the player whoever had the funny nude Chun-Li mod on the wrist and leave it be. I guess though it's hard to not be more frustrated by Capcom over so much more than just Mega Man though, I feel that frustration when it comes to so many other things with Capcom. The lack of follow ups or interest in stuff like Breath of Fire, Onimusha, Rival Schools, Darkstalkers, etc., the heavy focus on the big three and wanting to have consistencies with selling over 10 million with each of those. Heck it shocks me that Devil May Cry 5 has done super well and has become hella iconic in its own right and yet we're still wondering where the hell Devil May Cry is going to go from here. It's almost as if now with Capcom there just isn't enough cooks in the kitchen to keep maintaining everything all at once with the big culprit being to try and keep up as a AAA game studio. And it's pretty ludicrous to think even hiring more people would work since there's probably so many jobs they can push out until their company funds can't be reached at anymore. Mega Man is definitely not the only culprit to this, but for sure it's the front runner in terms of wondering what the heck is even the plan at Capcom. EDIT: I did leave it pretty late to edit this but I've since removed the comment from that video. Not just out of trying to be more sensible in approach but also just... YEAH.

[@huntzxc]

I never knew megaman battle network 1 and 2 are released in the same year

[@redstonecommander5190]

Of course MegaMan 11 is the only game that has a lot of changes and mechanics, better graphics, even voice acting, which is definitely weird for a classic series megaman game

[@michag798]

...And whopping two full fortress stages. They were great, but I felt like there was so little content.

[@carlosaugusto9821]

​@@michag798 One of the big obstacles of the franchise in my opinion is that small content scale. Because the games try to stick too hard to the same format set by the early games. And those games were too short even for that time on the NES... There were already games with much more content. But MM was carried by the revolutionary gameplay concept and the charisma of the characters (better developed in the 90s) and the music. And it seems the community became too inclined to "retro" and defensive about fresh and different ideas, meaning that the games need to continue repetitive, formulaic, and too similar to the early ones to hope to please the community. But how about the outside world from the fan base bubble? How willing is the general consumer to pay so much for waves of repetitive short barebones games? What are the success chances of this ancient model to work nowadays? In the 80s to early 00s that release model was tolerated, but things are not that easy anymore. And the thing is that there are cheap (in price) indie games with more content than the average MM and early MMX game. So that means Capcom will be kinda abusing the consumer by releasing games with "cheap indie" scale (or lower) for a bigger price, just because of MM's name. Again: how willing would the general public feel about this?

[@carlosaugusto9821]

​@@michag798 One of the big obstacles of the franchise in my opinion is that small content scale. Because the games try to stick too hard to the same format set by the early games. And those games were too short even for that time on the NES... There were already games with much more content. But MM was carried by the revolutionary gameplay concept and the charisma of the characters (better developed in the 90s) and the music. And it seems the community became too inclined to "retro" and defensive about fresh and different ideas, meaning that the games need to continue repetitive, formulaic, and too similar to the early ones to hope to please the community. But how about the outside world from the fan base bubble? How willing is the general consumer to pay so much for waves of repetitive short barebones games? What are the success chances of this ancient model to work nowadays? In the 80s to early 00s that release model was tolerated, but things are not that easy anymore. And the thing is that there are cheap (in price) indie games with more content than the average MM and early MMX game. So that means Capcom will be kinda abusing the consumer by releasing games with "cheap indie" scale (or lower) for a bigger price, just because of MM's name. Again: how willing would the general public feel about this?

[@orangeslash1667]

@@carlosaugusto9821 I think Capcom may have runout of ideas for Mega Man, because coming up with new powers that are fun to use is not easy. Mega Man had alot of power ups that most people didn't like.

[@artagle_14]

@@orangeslash1667They need new hires with imaginations. There’s no “running out of ideas” nonsense. There are and will always be new and exciting ideas that many fans can think of right off the bat.

[@plain1150]

I always wonder why do people says (insert game tittle) have the same mechenic as the old game but for sports game that appear every year with the same mechenic they like it and it's not like they can play sports irl

[@NetBattler]

Hypocrisy..

[@wolfdragox5563]

different standards and some undeniable bias.

[@marek1shtar538]

Big reviews just being ads. Most big review places are basically advertisements disguised as reviews whoever pays out the most wins

[@carlosaugusto9821]

Nowadays it's generally accepted that only a few genres can have repetitive sequels, when that tolerance was broader in the 80s and 90s. MM games are repetitive, reuse assets, and used to come out every 1-2 year. That release model is harder to be accepted today outside the circle of really hardcore MM fanboys. And Capcom actually managed to follow the modern direction and change some classic franchises like Street Fighter, which also was managed like MM in the 90s... With yearly sequels and cycles of asset recycling. SF5 must have dlc but it's not yearly releases anymore. But that's not something that can be followed by MM sadly.

[@neilpotsch1023]

I would certainly like to see Mega Man 1, 2, & 3 remade in 3D. Share this with Capcom, please?

[@GlitchedVision]

it was rumored they were working on powered up 2... they could take your idea, hdify the first powered up, dust off the unreleased powered up 2 and finish it, alongside making a third part :)

[@richardquinata76]

There was also supposed to be another Maverick Hunter X game, too. I wouldn't mind more of that series and have even came up with Colonel Mode if it ever got to MHX4.

[@captainblackhook9888]

Capcom: Thanks for the Mega Man money, we shall make more Street Fighter with it :3

[@bezoticallyyours83]

Lol

[@Mohammed1000real]

Sticking to three franchises shows how terrible Capcom is as a company, Sega leveled up and that's the only thing that they can't do.

[@FusionArmorX]

To be fair, Sega makes up for their success in being incredibly dumb at times. Sonic Frontiers was a hit, same can't be said for PSO2 New Genesis though, and the DLC shenanigans surrounding the Yak--i mean, Like A Dragon series. They're a very hit-or-miss company, and if Capcom were that kind of hit-or-miss I don't think there'd be a fanbase at this point.

[@rockmanfan100]

sega is also a hit or miss those new games going to be live service like crazy taxi that 4player sonic plays horribly sega cares about sonic but is a sucks being a "parent"

[@KyuJuEX099x]

28:57 Holy hell. That's gotta be the worst presentation for Battle Network 6. What the heck is that clown show?

[@davidgusquiloor2665]

That was the early 2000's. Lots of people hated "kiddie" games with multiple sequels but would Buy "serious" games with multiple sequels. And there was a slowly growing anti japanese sentiment among the media. Still far from the worst Mega Man review i have seen, there was an English magazine that said Legends was bad because it was colorful without a single mention of gameplay.

[@MegaManNeo]

I feel like MegaMan 10 would have done much much better if they went 16/32bit like they did for Shooting Star and ZX at that time. It's a real bummer the guy who was responsible for R11 to become a reality left the company but given Capcom now does everything in house and doesn't flood us with ports and remakes all the damn time, maybe there's still hope for our blue boy, whichever incarnation they choose. I did the survey yesterday and gave all my votes to MegaMan. I'd welcome enhanced remakes of 1-3 as I still really like Powered Up but my prayers lean more towards 12, Shooting Star 4 with the plot as originally planned AND MOST IMPORTANTLY Legends 3. If not that, at least Remakes of Legends 1, 2 and Tron Bonne with modernized - non tank - controls and a graphics style which looks fresh but stays true to its roots.

[@redstreak9430]

Same. I was never fond of the “Remember MM2” mindset (yes I know there’s irony considering my pfp) and I’m glad for the most part that’s died off unlike other series follow similar practices. 9 and 10 were okay but man, what I wouldn’t have given to see a “proper” version of those games that pushed the series to the new stage like 11 did.

[@sevensvn5391]

​@@redstreak9430 I don't really get what you mean by Mega Man 2 mindset. I'm going to address the difference in Mega Man's moveset, since that's what most people mean gameplay-wise from what I've seen. I personally feel that the charge shot, in a number of prior entries, was powerful enough to discourage weapon usage more than it already likely is for a number of players. With this being cranked to the max in Mega Man 5 in my experience. The slide, at least some would say, allowed for a lot of enemies to not be engaged with to the same degree due to being able to take a hit then slide past them, or things akin to that. It might have allowed for you to be a lot less committal and potentially more reckless, which might reduce the inclination for a player to strategize further. In Mega Man 10, I feel that the lack of charged buster and slide for Mega Man forces the player to be more thoughtful and strategic with how they navigate through the level since they can't just slide out or past as Mega Man, and his base firepower isn't enough to just proceed without getting hit in a number of instances. I think that that kind of forces the player to either A)Stubbornly try to do it with just the buster anyway, possibly with Shop purchases. or B)Stop and think about how they can use their weapons to overcome a given situation. Out of all of the main 11 classic games, I feel like 10 pushed me to do B the most, and through that I discovered a lot of neat uses for the weapons. For instance, Thunder Wool's lightning destroys met bullets, meaning that I can just set one, then lure a met into the lightning and not take any bullet damage myself, whereas if I used the buster I'd risk the met getting some shots in. In another instance, I figured out that to anything else the Suzies(Red eye enemies that move from wall to wall) are very damage spongy, and that if I tried to take them out manually I'd be at a higher risk of damage. I then realized that Rebound Striker has the potential to do 5 damage at a maximum, which is five times as much as the buster if I recall correctly, and likely enough to one shot the enemy. So I figured out a trajectory, and one-shotted the enemy as well as the ones near it afterward. With that being said, I won't dogmatically say that simplifying Mega Man's moveset is an objectively good thing, since good or bad when it comes games is considered by a number to be fairly subjective. However, what I WILL say is that there might be more thought behind simplifying Mega Man's base abilities from a design perspective than just "Remember MM2" in the case of MM10, and that the simplification could just be achieving a difference in gameplay that appeals to devs and certain players who enjoy or prefer it for reasons I alluded to above. Edit: Wording, Grammar, etc.

[@redstreak9430]

@@sevensvn5391 well, it’s not just simplifying the moveset but also the way the game was presented. Everything just seemed to be motivated by pandering to people who only knew that specific game with how it was executed especially considering it’s the sequel to 8 (and Bass to an extent). Like I know people meme on the anime cutscenes of that game because of the bad localization process but I still would have liked to see how it properly built on what the previous games. It’s especially jarring if, for example, you’re playing through the Legacy Collections and you see how the series is evolving from what they can do with the graphics to the story presentation to Megaman slowing building up his moveset and then you get to 9 and all of that is gone (at least they borrowed from the latter NES games with the story aspect I’ll give them that). Even X5 and X6 still felt like they built on what X4 did despite dropping the cutscenes as an example. At least with 10 I did feel like they introduced elements that made it stand out with stuff like the ability to play as Protoman and Bass (yes I know PM was in 9 but he was more of a bonus mode vs an actual playable character). Then again, that game was supposedly using rejected ideas from ZXC so that might be why that game felt more diverse with what you could do. And yeah I do think either they should have built better levels around all of Megaman’s abilities for those who don’t want to use the slide and charge and do a weapons only run or at least make that an option/unlockable like, say, Sonic Mania did with the Instashield and Super Peel Out. The point is I remember when 11 was first announced, my initial reaction was praising the fact we’re finally moving beyond the 8 bit artstyle and evolving from what 8/Bass gave us. And I think overall that game did a good job of keeping the movesets diverse in addition to the time gear gimmick.

[@orangeslash1667]

@@redstreak9430 Capcom usually see Mega man as a way to make a quick buck because of low budget most of them are, Which is why X drive was made. While the bigger budgets go to more popular games or new IPs.

[@ChillstoneBlakeBlast]

Another Small thing to note: Nintendo Switch seems to be on it's last legs. Of the next Megaman game is on the works, they might just leave it on the backburner until the "Switch 2" gets announced to potentially profit on that Launch title success. Battle Network 1 released as a launch title to the GBA and it did wonders for that series. Apart from 12 being a thing, I don't doubt that Battle Network 7 wouldn't be a thing in the future. I know Starforce exist and Battle Network 6's ending was a sealed one, but if the plans for Battle network Legacy Collection were delayed due to 2020, then it would make sence that more Battle Network content was pushed back as well. Every other Megaman seriea though, I pray that once day, they may get some more love...

[@NetBattler]

I mean they could just make BN 7 alternate timeline after 6.

[@ChillstoneBlakeBlast]

@@NetBattler Battle Network can still be worked on easily, no doubt about it. Maybe 7 Could have us play with a Much older Lan working on Scilab or something. Maybe it could be all about Lan going to the deepest parts of the net to obtain data to create Coronel And Iris (The programs made by a Reformed Dr.Wily in the ending of 6). The antagonist will have to be someone completely new, but Ideas such as Undernet Brokers, Bass or Sentient Data (Which does exist because of Duo).

[@GottaBeFrank]

While I'm a little tired of Mega Man 1-3, remaking the games again is a pretty safe choice. It could iron out some of the issues of the original games and could include new content, similar to the challenge missions of the Legacy Collection. Maybe a definitive version of 1-3, with hot swapping, like the Complete Works.

[@dontemorgan1517]

The lack of Mega Man content from Capcom is truly questionable. I just have a feeling that Capcom just doesn't actually care about Mega Man anymore as they'll sell collections or remake of it for a quick cash or just extremely lazy. I mean Capcom focus a lot of Street Fighter, Resident Evil, and even freaking Monster Hunters than their own mascot. You either retired the franchises or sell it to another Japanese game company (just not Nintendo or Sega because Mega Man will be a clone to Mario and Sega).

[@carlosaugusto9821]

It's 2024, and after everything that has happened to this franchise so far you just got a "feeling" that Capcom doesn't care anymore...

[@carlosaugusto9821]

Important to note that Capcom once forgot SF. The franchise went through a similar situation after SF3 Third Strike from 99, then new games stopped except retro rereleases... Until SF4 from 08 turns out in a massive success, which restored trust in the franchise and in investment on this ancient genre of 2d fighting games. That's to show that even SF, one of the most important franchises in gaming history, a pioneer that reached tremendous commercial and cultural success since the early 90s, even this powerful franchise started looking inviable in Capcom's eyes in the late 90s and it was "semi" abandoned for nine years. All because of RE in the late 90s and then DMC in the early 00s. The thing is that MM11 didn't make the strong impression of SF4 that fully convinced Capcom to give it more attention. So the franchise is still being more or less treated like SF during its nine years hiatus in the 00s.

[@virtualpellot933]

I would prefer that Capcom sold Megaman (and perhaps even Strider and Bionic Commando) to Inti Creates as they would know what to do with 'em.

[@virtualpellot933]

​@@carlosaugusto9821but didn't Capcom claimed that they were satisfied and happy with the sells of MM11? Didn't they said it sold good? Or did Capcom lied as usual?

[@drizzziit1]

@@virtualpellot933 Good does not equal great. Remember this is capitalism and corporate greed we are talking about.

[@SuxMenner]

Most of my Capcom Survey letter was directed towards letting Capcom know to be more transparent and how while I might not be in the same mindset as REVO's thoughts I agreed enough about how we are indeed halfway through the same amount of years Mega Man was put in the back burner if not counting collections, so I thought of including that as well in there. But my most important and personal tid-bit was conveying to Capcom that they could always rely on outsourcing Mega Man titles to other publishers, and specifically mentioned Inti Creates. I hope that it's been enough years between the bad blood of MM10 that their current directors are willing to work with Inti again. Edit: I heavily agree that 2024 is the year we will see Taisen as everything has pointed towards it.

[@virtualpellot933]

I wonder what's the problem between Capcom and Inti Creates? Apparently from what I've heard Inti Creates is still open to do stuff with Capcom, if Capcom wanted to and that Inti holds no grudge at them.

[@orangeslash1667]

@@virtualpellot933 Even if Capcom were to use Inti Creates, it would have to use sprites. If it was 2.5 d Inti would not be a good fit.

[@alanbrito141]

I can never get into "Megaman inspired" games They make me want to play the real thing instead, or play some fangames, or other unrelated games

[@AnAverageGoblin]

FINALLY someone else with the same view. i'm sick of companies/studios just taking 90% of their inspiration from another game and trying to be "it but new"

[@supermetroid009]

@29:24 ugh!!! I hated those days, when everyone especially G4 would crap on not just megaman but any old school franchise from Japan, and if it wasn’t Halo,Call of duty, gears of war or god of war they wouldn’t give a Eff about it.

[@thedredayshow9246]

Hate is a srong word. I'm more on the realm of "They don't care for it as much as fans do." If I remember, excluding tue recent 11, MM games weren't rrally known for selling well. So they keep MM around for public appearances, but not games.

[@ZeroSnake]

Zero Collection is amazing 👏🏿

[@AlcorSalvador]

It's worth mentioning that Inticreates had a Mega Man Classic Mini Engine in ZXA, so it's highly likely they were aiming for that and once the pitch got approved they essentially shelved ZXC until their relationship with Capcom was severed.

[@KR-976]

I really appreciate all the links you have in the description. That along with the great video has given me a lot to read and consider!

[@scottholtom7551]

I really hope Rockman Taisen and/or other game gets announced very soon

[@AdachiCabbage]

Megaman at least gets games. Still no Breath of Fire 1-5 or DQ on modern consoles.

[@OneWingedMavrik]

A criminally neglected series.

[@TheDapperDragon]

You can keep DQ in the garbage where it belongs. But BoF3 and 4 not being playable on anything short of an emulator is actually wrong.

[@OneWingedMavrik]

@@TheDapperDragon Yeah, as far as I remember there's only 1-4. xD Wasn't a DQ fan myself either.

[@TheDapperDragon]

​@@OneWingedMavrik There TECHNICALLY was a 5, but it was a mobile only gacha nightmare. Still more BoF than DQ. It was still fantasy, had Woren and Nina the Wyndian, etc.

[@OneWingedMavrik]

@@TheDapperDragon Oh yeah! I forgot all about that! I wanna say its implied DQ is "5" though. I'm fairly certain the one you're referring to is BoF6.

[@gunvolt5246]

Capcom doesn't hate Mega Man and the franchise isnt dead but he definitely isn't Capcoms top priority (if it wasnt already obvious) The only thing I want atm is a Starforce collection. I'll only get my hopes up for a new game if/whenever Capcom announces one.

[@kyokari4]

13:25 I despise DRM like everyone else, but this is the funniest justification for protection being ramped up if those events are correlated.

[@costby1105]

The collection aren't low effort. If they were they would have been farmed out to Digital Eclipse, M2 or some other studio specializing in Emulation. Inticreates have stated that they want to work on Mega Man again. However, They have stated that they wanted to remake Zelda 2, but have stated that it wasn't necessarily economically viable. Also Capcom has pulled most of their development in house after the Street Fighter V launch debacle and other outsourced and published game selling well below expectations. Granted some of the expectations were kind of absurd.

[@bezoticallyyours83]

That was Inti expressing interest in Zelda 2. 😉

[@neonthunder3261]

Capcom doesn't hate Mega Man, I can't believe this nonsense spreads through the fandom. All it takes is looking at things outside of "where's new game" to see that Capcom still cares. If they didn't, would Dr. Light be a cameo in SF6?

[@TheDapperDragon]

I mean, so was Fou-Lu and his pets, as well as Bunyan. They ALWAYS do this. They've done it since at least Bayonetta. Name dropping Capcom games as a way to remind the fanbase why they used to love them.

[@brandonwilliams6119]

Very well made and thought out video on the current state of Megaman. The Enigma DRM joke was pretty funny, I actually took the Capcom survey and of the 3 franchises I choose were Darkstalkers, Vs Capcom and of course our lord and savior Megaman followed by remakes of 1, 2 and 3. The yearly sequels topic was was a fun topic, even Mario Party used to get yearly sequels arguably Final Fantasy in the 90s. Your defense of “Lazy Collections” is true, if they didn’t care they would do something like what Sonic Origins initially did when that came out.

[@kaiserknuckle9261]

I look at it from the same lense as I do my favorite Nintendo franchise metroid it took 19years for dread to be released and it took seven years after other m bombed and if the lessons I learned from waiting for new games in that series it's that eventually your patience will be rewarded I don't think mega man will go anywhere anytime soon so the best thing we can do is be patient and support the collections

[@NetBattler]

I mean at least Nintendo already stated that they will announce the game once it is complete meanwhile Capcom goes radio silent when it comes to Megaman...

[@orangeslash1667]

@@NetBattler I think Capcom may have runout of ideas for Mega Man, because coming up with new powers that are fun to use is not easy. Mega Man had alot of power ups that most people didn't like.

[@NetBattler]

@@orangeslash1667 I mean that's why they are considering to making Megaman games. They have been stating this last year.

[@orangeslash1667]

@@NetBattler There's an upcoming game called Berserk boy, that looks Mega man inspired.

[@NetBattler]

@@orangeslash1667 damn even indie game like Megaman more than multi billion company 💀

[@evhr0N]

I really hope we get at least Megaman X9, ZX 3 or Legends 3 before the 2020s end... UNLESS we get a game of the Elf Wars which would be simply mind blowing and I'd be 200% up for it

[@chimuoma390]

Elf Wars Would Be Sick!X9-X10-X11-X12 Would Span The 4-Year War!1 Year Per Game!I'd Buy A Switch For These Games!Hacked Xtreme 2,And And Easy Mode Model O MMZX Would Still Be Better!I Want ZX3,To Kill Master Thomas And Learn About The History Of Carbons,And To Use Omega Again!Model O Could Play The Central Role!Prometheus And Pandora Could Be The Protagonists,To Become Omega Zero!I Also Wanted Xtreme 3 On GBA,To Play X Vs Zero!And Most Of All STAR FORCE 4!

[@brandonwilliams6119]

I just want a game that bridges the gap between Classic to X, X to Zero and so on.

[@KeltkeGH]

Elf Wars? Nah. Chances are high they'd mess and ruin it. Better to just continue the Lumine/Axl cliffhanger.

[@majamystic256]

i don't think I would want an Elf Wars game right away though, I think would like a few more other X games before the Elf Wars since X series has been gone for 20 years and I don't want to come back and just end in one game

[@CMDRThunderush]

It's funny how a lot of the unrealized potential and cancelled games for Mega Man titles have awakened a passionate drive for other creators to realize fan games that manage to keep the spirit of excitement we got from the original games active and lively.

[@KinG_VI-13]

I just really want to see Megam Man legends 3. It doesn't have to be made at the level of God of War. If it had the same art style, but just at a higher quality that would very much make me happy.

[@SSG079]

I'm willing to cut Capcom some slack with the ransomware leaks and covid. But at the same time, I am firmly of the mindset "I'll believe it when I see it", because Capcom hasn't really done much to really inspire faith that they'll release a new Mega Man game (let alone other dead/dormant IPs). Collections do not exactly guarantee a new game either. Darkstalkers Resurrection sold quite a lot (enough to be in the top 10 lists for US PS store in March of that year), yet it didn't meet Capcom's expectations to even bother with a new game. So I'm not exactly gonna hold my breath, pessimistic as that sounds.

[@MagillanicaLouM]

At the very least, I don't think they make new entries live or die by how well collections sell anymore lol. They flat out said the they had no plans to make a new darkstalkers no matter how well the very darkstalkers heavy fighting game collection from 2022 sold. So at least developer interest is more of a priority than JUST chasing a bag

[@TheDiscoGenre]

Megaman isn't super profitable, and bad paid reviewers back in the day dunking on the series + a couple infamous duds (X6 and X7, Battle Network 4, Star Force 2, the Battle Network 1 remake pretending to be a crossover/Star Force 3.5) really make it not worth reviving. Doesn't help it doesn't have any real ESG applications because Capcom is extremely current year.

[@ColeFam]

I feel like something big is on the horizon. There is just a bit of housekeeping that needs to be done first. I hope, anyway. This was very well presented.

[@LordSpleach]

24:23 I wonder how Battle Network 4 revenue is split between the two versions. It still puzzles me that they copied Pokemon with the multiple version for a side series that doesn't rely on collecting all the "monsters". I never really got into it, but the gameplay of BN/SF has no reason to bother with more than one version.

[@megamix5403]

25:36 Omg, I love that Porky Pig reference XD

[@gabrielcastejon7914]

Even if they did a new Megaman game it would be with 2.5D graphics, which doesn't hit the same. Megaman Legends 3 would be their best bet.

[@moxty2795]

This Is Like Ubisoft Hates Rayman Both the Franchises made them go to the top in the first place and Now they ignoring them What ungrateful people

[@SOJITZL]

Star Force 2 still sucks, I *just* played through it. The worst part out of everything is doing all the side quests, which shouldn't be a problem but constantly pulsing in then out then running back to the same room literally more than 10 times is ridiculous with very little hint on where to go and what to do.

[@dass8193]

Did you try the not so DX patch? It decreases the abysmal encounter rate a bit and makes some high link power doors easier to access

[@davidgusquiloor2665]

It's considered one of the worst for a reason, in gameplay, design and story it really it's suffering.

[@SOJITZL]

@@dass8193 I did use the nsDX patch, but a QoL patch doesn't fix the story, or the skywave, or the dungeon puzzles, or Zack. Or the endlessly tedious world travel system

[@Ai_M3talloidX7]

SR's right. Regardless if Capcom will listen, it's best to take action through that questionnaire instead. It's a 1 in one million shot but just about every shot you take misses until it lands a devastating blow.

[@Eric-gp3hi]

I hope we get Battle Network 7, Starforce Legacy Collection and a Starforce 4 in the future!

[@megatails241]

No. We need Rockman X9 or ZX3

[@AnAverageGoblin]

BN6 was meant to be the end of the series..

[@rodanyo]

I want to be positive and thing that there's someting on the oven for a new game. And i'm not mentioning other legacy collection. Besides there's only 2 series that still don't have theirs: Starforce and Legends, and those series are curious because they only have at least 3 games (not counting the different versions od Starforce). ZX was a unique case by putting them with MM Zero, mostly because ZX comes right after MM Zero, and share a lot of elements to be consider part of it. I think Legends deserves a remake instead of a legacy collection, just the 1st game to start, or the main 2 at the same time,, but that's another story. I think the possibilities for a new megaman title are very high to be MM 12. And even that they mention that they're interested in adding more contetc to X Dive offline, i don't think they will do anything anymore to the game. For X9 that's a very... VERY fragile thing, because the comunity don't want just MMX9, they want their MMX9, something that mandatory explain what happened to Axl (obviously) and that conects or MM Zero with something of the Elf Wars. And in my opinion, that's not gonna happen. If X9 manages to show up, is gonna continue from what was left on X8, explaining what happened to Axl, creating a new story from there, and that's it. The elf wars are already explained in the Zero games, and in the Rockman Zero complete works. So a game that focus on the Elf Wars is not necessary, and if they make it, is not gonna be X9. Will be part of the Zero series, and will the equivalent of "Crisis Core" to FF7, or "Torna the golden country" to Xenoblade 2: a tragic story already told in the games, but with the details of what happened.

[@capstalker5539]

I agree with what you said about X9, let the timeline of the Zero series separate starting with X6, this is better for both series.

[@rodanyo]

@@capstalker5539 The Zero ending in X6 is not part of X6... kinda. That was already confirmed that this particular event happens right at the end of the X series, regardless of the games that are coming after, so X7 and X8 are still cannon. It makes sense to me for how X8 ends

[@TrustHax]

Great video! Would love to have seen something on why Capcom seems incredibly reluctant to release physical copies of megaman over here in the UK and EU any more. Seriously, We got none of the legacy collections physical while basically everywhere else got them. I think the only MM game we got physically in recent years has been MM11. Could be a potential contributing factor as to why Megaman's sales numbers are lower than what they could be. Heck, we cant even get digital versions of the Legends games natively on the PS store, only legal way to play them is to track down the physical discs which are being sold for insane prices... We can't even get officially licensed merch to ship here from US based stores due to "licencing issues", come on man what licencing issues!? Freakin' sucks being a megaman fan here!

[@MegamanGuy444]

Personally I think its all those problems... AND THEY DON'T ADVERTISE THE BLUE BOMBER. I don't know if they expect hype to just appear out of nowhere, but they need to make games... TO MAKE HYPE. Nintendo, as old as they are, EVEN THEY KNOW THAT. Why was TOTK so successful? They hyped the damn game for years. Advertisement is the key here. And they don't do it with their smaller properties. I get they don't wanna burn out people. Absolutely. So, just don't make Mega Man games every year?

[@mrwestonizer]

I really hope they make a properly made open world megaman game where we can run around the city and find where the bosses are hiding.

[@PassportBrosBusinessClass]

MEGAMAN is one of the greatest intellectual properties of the 1980's which ISN'T owned by Nintendo. I didn't realize it until playing through the entire Legacy/X/ZX collection, just how good it was. I was shocked how they evolved the story from the MM games to the Battle Network games on to the ZX games. The downside, however, is that they had to make these games more accessible and thus EASIER for the general public to play them. The work they did on Mega Man 11 is remarkable when you look back at Mega Man X6 and X7.

[@MajeedBelle]

I actually think Capcom is in the same boat with mega Man as Sega is with Sonic. Both companies don't know what to do to modernize these franchises. When I say modernize. I don't mean to dumb down the difficulty or make the franchises some kind of joke. I just mean to potentially transform the games to be more digestible for the current gamer base while still preserving the core and essence of the franchises. When I look at something like God of war and how they changed that but kept the core of the game, this is what I'm talking about. As far as mega Man is concerned, I would really love to see them go back to another attempt with the 3D mega Man like mega Man Legends. I think they could pull it off. It's just a confidence thing.

[@64bitmodels66]

Mega Man is in a far worse state than sonic. Sonic got 3 games, recieved a TV show and 2 movies in the first half of the 2020s alone, plus concerts for the series music. Megaman outside of x dive has been pure and utter neglect.

[@robinsr4745]

​@@64bitmodels66 Sonic is still an iconic character in modern times while megaman is now seen as more of a retro icon.

[@Shinjiduo]

It is true that video games grew greatly between mid 90's to 2010 However, the real reason individual game sales were lower was due to just simply less customers. Prior to the "Internet Social Gaming Era" people used to buy games they saw in magazines, saw box artwork or even simply the back of the product box. Back then people bought what they wanted regardless of what their friends were getting. Since the Internet era has begun everyone buys the same games to be in on the discussion whether it be online multiplayer or "spoilercast." An example of the Internet age effect: PS1 highest seller Gran Turismo 10.85 Million PS2 highest seller GTA San Andreas 17.33 Million post Internet era Nintendo Wii highest seller Mario Kart Wii 37.38 Million PS4 highest seller Horizon Zero Dawn 24 Million Nintendo Switch highest seller Mario Kart 8 Deluxe 60.58 Million. As the previous sentence shows that people now tend to cluster around big titles more than in the pre Internet past where you would not see 20 million + sales unless it was a pack in. Those pre Internet age video game sales were spread more widely over a range of franchises. In short no 20 million + sales but more 2 to 5 million sellers. The problem for franchises like Mega Man, Okami, Viewtiful Joe and Onimusha have is that people who purchase Resident Evil or Monster Hunter in droves don't have the time or money to get around to them. Thus Capcom has no real incentive to make them even if they are profitable as they chew up resources and time to produce. An unfortunate circumstance to be sure.

[@ElecManEXE]

I miss the days when entertainment companies could just put out a good product with a modest budget and be satisfied with making a decent profit. But with both movie studios and game companies, so much has shifted towards massive, eye-watering blowout projects that have to make triple their enourmous overblown budget to even be considered a success. Mega Man is an unfortunate casualty of this mindset, I feel. Because that just ain't Mega Man's thing. The games just don't have the type of gameplay or history to be billion dollar profit titles. And any attempt to change the gameplay enough to make it appeal to the masses would mean it didn't feel like Mega Man any more. Hopefully this trend of mass overspending in an effort to chase the next billion dollar title calms down at some point and more companies can be OK just putting out something with a reasonable development budget again. And not just remakes.

[@y_s4021]

Starting to watch now, but I'm hoping you're going to analyse sales numbers, not just speculate on whether a company "hates" an IP of theirs as most fans do. Most people act as if there's tons of demand for Megaman, but they never back it up with receipts. I want Megaman, but I also want more actual information. How does Megaman sales compare to DMC, RE, SF and other franchises? We can't just complain if we're not actually buying it when it comes out. Edit: Ok, you put some numbers. Awesome.

[@MaxBraver555]

Right now Capcom wants to focus on sure hit titles, Monster Hunter, Resident Evil, Dragon’s Dogma, and new title like Pragmata.

[@Solavation]

Not to save you an hour but, the hardest thing for MEGAMAN fans to accept is that MEGAMAN has NEVER been a huge selling franchise so much so that they were surprised battle network collection did so well. Nobody knows what to do with IP tbh, in all honesty I think capcom needs to get the one step from Eden guys and do a battle network game and then get platinum to do an X Game but I digress I don’t think any mega man series has ever had 5 mil copies sold

[@LordSpleach]

"I'm doing my part!" about the Super Elections Survey. Sucks the comment section had a 400 character limit, but I made sure to say that "Mega Man is the Mario of Capcom"

[@joevaghn457]

I really wish for more MM games using mega man 8 graphics as a base. Man, those were some of the absolute best and most spectacular 2.5D sprites I’ve ever seen. So much potential

[@Alexcobra861]

I'm disappointed that we can only choose one favorite game and one game that influenced us. I hesitated between Darkstalkers, God Hand and Crimson Tears. I voted for Crimson Tears to give it some love, because I think it's been forgotten by a lot of players. and for the game that I would like to see remade I hesitated between Breath of Fire and Dino Crisis, but I voted for Breath of Fire knowing that a Dino Crisis Remake is the most logical thing to do with the graphics engine , RE Engine, after Resident Evil. while a 2DHD remake like the various games produced by Square Enix or like that of the first Star Ocean released recently is much less obvious for a publisher like Capcom.

[@NineToFiveGamerUC0079]

What game at 1:34?

[@NevetsTSmith]

It's really struck me as odd how Capcom has just abandoned Megaman as a primary IP. Capcom is pretty renowned for their action games, so there's no reason why they wouldn't make a MM approaching the level of DMC.

[@FusionArmorX]

On that point, it feels like a tie between following what Inafune wanted for the series, and following what the fans expect. Even if we hear more about Taisen soon, I'm genuinely not sure if it'll be welcomed.

[@bezoticallyyours83]

That could be interesting

[@arielcastillo3513]

It’s really the hardcore fans keeping it alive. Everything from fan art and covers to games. Thing is so many other classic IPs are eating and Megaman is left in the past.

[@VentCrystals98]

It've been a while, welcome back!

[@marcossierra3498]

The IT area for employemeny has enter an recess. I would believe it is also affecting Capcom as well, Covid has changed alot of companies and that is why we see a lot of studios shutting down or doing lay offs.

[@stevenedwards8353]

I think the fact 11 sold more than any other game in the franchise, plus fans have been steadily demanding a sequel to Legends for over 2 decades - proves that fan interest in the franchise is stronger than it's EVER been, but Capcom still doesn't want to strike while the iron is hot for some reason.

[@zatsuthedarskarstanian4051]

You caught me by surprise in the end of the "whats taking em so long" section, pitchforks will be bought

[@Mantosasto]

Damn Capcom, we don't need or want multiple games per year, just one every other year is fine. Give us X9 and Legends 3 already 😢

[@gunvolt5246]

X9 and Legends 3 will come out around the same time Valve announces Half-Life 3.

[@roryboyes2307]

Imagine if a new 32 bit megaman game was developed, with all the extra compute going towards making the spite animations varied, the enemies unpredictable ...

[@FusionArmorX]

Does Capcom hate Mega Man? I don't think so. When that conclusion's components are analyzed, the idea that Capcom hates the brand is nothing but conjecture. The sentiment requires one to do a _lot_ of excluding. Artbooks, cameos, themed DLC, collections, soundtrack releases, merchandise, and even entire games can find themselves excluded. For example, Mega Man X Dive might not have been the best Mega Man product ever made, but it _was_ a new idea for the series to try. The sins it is guilty of in being a gacha game might be unique for Mega Man, but they are common for the free-to-play model. I can honestly say that I've played games with a worse gacha system than X Dive. Even then, the pay-to-win aspect of X Dive was more to do with PvP than it was with PvE. As far as PvE was concerned, as soon as you had one good S Rank character, the game dramatically transformed more into one that functioned via gear score than gacha. It stands to reason that without the PvP and pay-to-win aspects, X Dive would effectively be only a gear score game. The idea, also, of what would convince people that Capcom _doesn't_ hate the brand is also strangely specific: Numbered sequels. REVO's video mentions one thing in its "ideas for Mega Man games" segment, he suggests that a numbered sequel to Rockboard of all things would be welcomed openly. This is in the same video where he dismisses games like Rockman Tennis, but I digress... He recites it in addition to "easy" things that "everybody" would totally go for. A game that bridges Classic and X together as stories, or one that answers what happened to Axl in X8 and also brings X into the Elf Wars part of the Zero series, or that one MMZ remake idea with Devil May Cry's combat mechanics. Lots of cool ideas, but inescapable from the sentiment they're attached to. As well, considering that people seemed to be hyped about the idea of an MMZ remake, many were surprisingly sour on the idea of the first three Mega Man games themselves potentially getting remade. Not helping is the fanaticism regarding Capcom's other popular brands. What does the success of Street Fighter, Resident Evil and Monster Hunter have to do with the state of the Mega Man brand? Absolutely nothing, and the constant bickering about how Capcom would _'rather serve them'_ feels less like a good faith criticism and more like bad faith jealousy. Worse yet, some even drag in other dormant Capcom brands as proof, and I'm left wondering if the goal of this outrage is really all that much about getting Mega Man a new game, or if Mega Man's "corpse" is being used as a rallying cry for a "CrapcomGate" or something. The more people I see swept up in the idea that Capcom hates Mega Man, the more I fear we'll actually see Mega Man die as a brand. Because the more these people are right about what fans do and don't want, the more the brand _will_ die, and it'd die by the hand of the people who claim to care about it more than the company that makes it.

[@NTBXP1]

Does current year capcom have ANY love to stuff that isn't photorealistic?

[@ashharkausar413]

They will definitely churn out sequels but they are not prioritized. Maybe they will release a fresh series in the future; I have hope.

[@bezoticallyyours83]

I'd love a fresh sub-series!

[@Nubzly]

I just saw a humble bundle for all the Megaman collection games. Hopefully that has something to do with Capcom's survey asking fans what series they want continued

[@ZenoDLC]

The creator of that video you mentioned near the beginning of this video was once like how you are in this video, I sincerely hope you don't become like him due to circumstances in the future

[@wolfan20]

Its not hate, they don't care, they see it as a third wheel for extra cash when things get bad for them, thats why mm11 exists. The sad part is that too, they won't do another megaman let alone another ip that is not SF, RE, MH or the like if its not something they won't see as highly demanded, key word "they", since you see them claim ace atourney is getting more games, but this is just them saying crap for fans to be waiting for it. I want X9 and Legends 3 so much, but crapcom is not caring about it.

[@NetBattler]

The sad fact is that the producer of AA wants to focus on Apollo even though his arc has already ended...

[@wolfan20]

God damn it, go for someon who dosn't need more focus, great.

[@NetBattler]

​​​@@wolfan20I mean he has left bit of the storyline of Apollo mother and trucy and that's about it... nothing else meanwhile we don't even know Athena's full background beside Phantom and what happened to von karma and gumshoe?

[@carlosaugusto9821]

No hopes for X9 and now I don't believe it's a good idea anymore. When a game have a little more solid sense of narrative and continuity like MMX (compared to og MM) it doesn't feel good to make direct continuation sequels after a long time. But for og MM it's fine.

[@MagillanicaLouM]

@@NetBattler Got the source for him saying he wants to focus on Apollo more? I wouldn't be too mad if done well, but I would prefer things go towards Athena taking the reigns. As for more old characters returning, I agree with you

[@LauraLanford]

Capcom might've mentioned a Mega Man 1, 2 and 3 remake, but just imagine a X4 remake instead..... Yeah.

[@bezoticallyyours83]

Again? But they already remade 1,2,3. Wily Wars is not a good game.

[@TheRealDuster]

The anime cutscenes with good voice acting would be incredible!

[@BugRaiser]

A Megaman movie 🎥 is needed but we need a good one

[@robinsr4745]

Only way I see it working is a modern animated movie like spiderverse with maybe less of a comic book style

[@acejumper1681]

Considering that mega man is one of the top voted franchises in their fan survey, that gives me hope.

[@mattminerman]

What's the name of the song in "Is Mega Man dead again?" timestamp

[@virtuatom93]

i think lack of direction and innovation at capcom is the problem....they constantly stick to what works for them without taking any new risks at giving other ips a shot to shine again,it's not just megaman.....series like darkstalkers,final fight,okami,viewtiful joe, dino crisis, vs series aren't as respected as they could be.....