People online are so weird about Ace people. See what happened to JaidenAnimations.
@redhood52647 ай бұрын
It's cause they want them, and feel entitled to them. So if they are ACE it's not just them rejecting the person, it comes off as them rejecting the idea of even being with the person. Chronically onlineness, and loneliness epidemic at its worst.
@Sam_on_YouTube7 ай бұрын
My daughter was a big fan of Jaiden, but largely stopped watching. Not because she's ace. My daughter liked that video very much. But because she ran out of personal stories to animate. She's had like 1 story that isn't about her playing a video game in the last 2 years. That's not Jaiden's fault. As she points out, when she makes videos about things that happen to her (as opposed to things she goes out to do for content), she does kind of just have to wait for them to happen.
@funnylittlecreature7 ай бұрын
@@Sam_on_KZbinOh, god, I wish her getting a _smaller_ fanbase was what the original commenter was talking about.
@bee_creature7 ай бұрын
as someone who used to watch her stuff years ago, but fell off and haven't watched her recent content, can i ask what happened to her? just genuinely curious
@TEENYEEN7 ай бұрын
@@bee_creatureshe kinda popped off last year, she started streaming, and technically VTubing, she does a lotta Pokemon stuff, and game reviews. So yea her content is great if you’re into to that! :D
@knate447 ай бұрын
Please let JoCat know we still support both of you.
@Sam_on_YouTube7 ай бұрын
Queerness isn't just a spectrum, it's a fractal. Every part of the spectrum is a spectrum in and of itself, no matter how small a part of the spectrum you look at. Even if you look at just one person, they may have a spectrum within themselves.
@conlon43327 ай бұрын
Thank you for this, it's a really good description. Also thank you for introducing me to the idea of fractals, they sound cool in concept and the Google Images for the word are really beautiful.
@holocoffin7 ай бұрын
That’s beautiful. How well put.
@tux_duh7 ай бұрын
Huh. I guess we are snowflakes (Bc fractals)
@EchoGillette7 ай бұрын
THIS IS SUCH A COOL TURN OF PHRASE I'm stealing it (9.9)
@ebonyblack45637 ай бұрын
That, that's exactly it! Embrace variety! ❄️
@Bleedingstrawberry7 ай бұрын
Echo, I’m so sorry that you and Jo are experiencing so much animosity. As a fellow ace, I really don’t understand why people don’t just mind their own business. It’s really not that difficult. But I’m really happy that you’re making more videos like this cos it’s these types of videos that help me understand myself and my Asexuality better. Lots of love 🫶
@lockpickingengineer74587 ай бұрын
your just normally human like all of us and I find going to church help me understand other people and myself. church is not for all of us.
@julieblair74727 ай бұрын
"act like woman = bad" is 80% of juvenile insults.
@jengibs7 ай бұрын
I know JoCat doesn't want to do content creation anymore, but my God I would love it if you guys would do a podcast together. My husband is a pan cis gendered male. I am a demisexual, nonbinary, heteroromantic AFAB that dresses masculine. It's a complicated relationship. We've been together navigating all these challenges for 10 years. Seeing other couples out there with similar dynamics is so refreshing. Seeing the way the two of you interact with each other is inspiring. A podcast where the two of you do deep dives into topics that affect our communities would be like a beacon for so many couples like us. The two of you are great. Wishing you both the best.
@NatsumeRyu7 ай бұрын
Sharing for Ace rep. My roommate and I are both Ace Aro; and everyone just assumes we're a couple because we're passing (AFAB and AMAB). My roommate always asks people who say that, "would you assume we were a couple if we were both male (or female)? And I havent heard anyone yet say yes. Most of the communities we get this in are pretty heavily queer too, so like, people make so many assumptions. (I'm p sure if we were in less queer communities the result would be the same)
@kayleighrose7 ай бұрын
I am an asexual person. I am very sexually attracted to my partner. I didnt experience these feelings until growing a bond with him. I do not feel sexual attraction to anyone but my partner. Im still asexual despite being a horndog with my partner.
@helenanimocks7 ай бұрын
That would be considered demisexual, asexual is no sexual attraction, even after forming bonds.
@Xencam7 ай бұрын
@@helenanimocks Demisexual is under the umbrella of asexuality tho. It's not black and white
@kayleighrose7 ай бұрын
@@helenanimocks asexual is an umbrella term. Please don't tell me what my identity is.
@helenanimocks7 ай бұрын
@@kayleighrose then say the asexual umbrella. Because it’s also it’s also it’s own identity, and not all asexuals want their identity lumped in with the rest, it just causes confusion and misinformation.
@TL03037 ай бұрын
@helenanimocks What misinformation does it cause? I'm curious what you mean because isn't the definition of asexual a person who experiences little to no sexual attraction? That seems to fit in with the original commenters experience. Also in my experience as a demisexual, I've never had any push back from the ace community, they've been one of the most accepting communities I've been a apart of.
@Aalayahhh7 ай бұрын
I have had people straight up tell me that I just haven’t “had a real man” before. Smh
@shutenkoma7 ай бұрын
Ignorant people would rather hate than learn. Sending love and hugs to both of you and All my fellow Ace’s. ♠️💜💟🤍
@onerandomnerdygirl23067 ай бұрын
I appreciate this video. I am in a “strait passing” relationship. My husband and I are both Demi and I think it’s so strange that some people are so obsessed with other people’s sex lives…
@DemonPup137 ай бұрын
You were the first openly ace person I had heard of online and watching your video on asexually made me feel very sense! I’m currently in a relationship with another asexual person and the AMOUNT of ace phobia is really annoying. He went with me to the pharmacy picking up my medicine (testosterone) and the pharmacy asked if there was any chance I was pregnant a question he had been required to ask, but immediately looked past me to my partner assuming my no as a lie- also literally acting like he was the one who gets to decide if I transition or not. My partner is a wonderful person but the fact that the person handling me my medicine looked past me to him was really rude and gross. We were both weirded out by it and found it kinda funny as were both two trans men but it was still really weird and uncomfortable.
@Meiw77775 ай бұрын
I remember first watching your asexual video when I was about 12 and you were the first asexual person I had ever heard of, I'm almost 18 now and I've had a long (still unfinished) journey figuring out my sexuality but right now I'm acespec and probably arospec too, I also recently have gotten my first girlfriend who is also asexual and our relationship is definitely not "conventional" but I don't give a fuck, we are happy together doing what we do! I guess I just wanted to say thank you for first teaching me what asexuality is and to spread some queer asexual joy. I really hope your situation gets better
@PukePunk777 ай бұрын
Echo I appreciate this thumbnail 10/10
@KagomeMorino7 ай бұрын
As a fellow ACE I feel you! The moment I got married to my husband everyone was like “see! You found good--“ it’s so frustrating and stupid. I literally just started asking if they want an invite to our bedroom and my husband just dead pan says I read a mean bible 😂😂 😂. It’s just frustrating because we get constant backlash. We’ve just started saying the most out of pocket things to shock them quite. Neither of us want kids and it’s a constant issue brought up and it’s just disgusting.
@lockpickingengineer74587 ай бұрын
all your problems stems for the show and tell community. if you don't show and tell you would not have a problem. this is a very hard lesson but it will get easier in time if you stop show and tell out of the marriage. there are only 2 people which count you and your husband no one else matters. I hope one day you do have kids because they will change your life for the better but it's not me telling you to have them.
@I_XuMuK_I7 ай бұрын
So glad to hear you and Jo talk about this. I missed him a little bit. Wish you the best.
@Ty.ehe.r7 ай бұрын
Never understood why ppl care if u do or do not have s*x (not sure if I should censor that word or not) like it's not your business
@dubbie78797 ай бұрын
I've identified as ace for a while now, and whilst going through my gender journey i came to understand that it is because of gender dysphoria and that i couldn't imagine enjoying sex as my assigned gender at birth. your content has helped immensely during this time of my life, and i am very grateful for your existence as a creator. i still somewhat identify with the label but that may change :3
@silversheep73697 ай бұрын
Proud of you :3
@kparkiart50677 ай бұрын
I remember many years ago when you talked about asexuality and I remember commenting saying I resonated with some of the stuff you said. But I didn't see myself as asexual at the time (because k didnt know ANYTHING about it- and i was only a teen). A couple years later I realised that I AM asexual and I could finally put a name to it. It's so HARD being asexual in this world when that's all society cares about and I've felt alienated for it for a long time. And dating is almost impossible when that's the expectation in relationships. I think this video is so important because everyone is on a spectrum and i hate being asked over and over again what it even means and when i talk about it, they never understand or try to.
@Qilue21796 ай бұрын
I feel this in my bones.. I identify as Asexual, and I am married. Even among other LGBTQ+ people I am hesitant to state that I am Ace, not because of what they might think of me, but what they might think/assume about my husband and out relationship.. (I often instead use the fact that I am Intersex to "prove" my membership in the Alphabet Mafia)
@applesas9427 ай бұрын
As an aroace person with a romantic partner I understand this. I also hate how allo ppl only see the sex part of relationships. Like, that's all they ask about. Not what your partner likes, does, or how they treat you. They ask only about sex. I like to ask my friends if they wanna know anything about my partner because I want them to get to know him even though rn they can't meet him. And I have an allo friend who only ever asks about that aspect of relationships. And it makes me not wanna talk about my partner in front of her :/
@Squiggy84407 ай бұрын
I’m so happy you both found eachother 💕🥰 you 2 are some of my fave creators and finding out about a year ago that you and jo started dating eachother offline gave me the warm fuzzies 🥰 it’s nice cuz i’m ace and Queer and atm am dating a queer person who is also on the ace spectrum and having more ppl talk about it is reassuring and encouraging to hear. Also, thank you echo for explaining labels to the broader community so eloquently. It’s appreciated! 🤩
@LegoCookieDoggie7 ай бұрын
Although I disagree with using ChatGPT as a search engine it makes up scientific papers and also adapts answers to users but not in this case
@natalialutes74997 ай бұрын
Hey, Echo. Really sorry you and Jo are going through this, but I’m glad you guys are staying strong and proud through it. Hearing your story was what really helped me figure out that I was ace, and seeing your experience is really helpful to me. I haven’t been in a relationship since before I started identifying as ace, but seeing you and Jo makes me feel a little more hopeful that I’ll find someone who can understand me for me one day. You’re the best Ace Aunt a gal could ask for lol. Thanks for always helping people like me feel less alone 🖤
@AegixDrakan7 ай бұрын
As another Ace out there, I wish you luck! :) If I dorks like me and my own Ace GF could find each other, you can find someone too. :)
@MIDNIGHT05217 ай бұрын
I identify as Straight, however, found this video to be very informative! Thank you for that, Echo. P.S: May want to correct the video title ever so slightly. Says "ChatGBT" when clearly you meant ChatGPT. :)
@ghostlyjudge7 ай бұрын
man past echo depicted the future
@fishfish79857 ай бұрын
chat gpt the word you are looking for is biromantic nsted of bisexual
@LegoCookieDoggie7 ай бұрын
I’m the opposite I rarely see couples like you both I WANT TO BE in a couple all the aces around me know that it’s not a life of loneliness but why not me, I want more than just platonic relationships
@mythic_snake7 ай бұрын
YES, all of this. I've been involved in the Hazbin Hotel fandom lately, and since one of the characters is ace, there is SO MUCH misinformation and gatekeeping around what asexuality is. It's either sex-repulsed aces (totally valid) speaking on behalf of the entire ace community and saying that his character would NEVER date/flirt/have sex/etc. BECAUSE he's ace. Or, it's uninformed "allies" who attempt to police the community by talking out of their ssa about things they don't know anything about. As an asexual, I feel like "not being sexually attracted to other humans" but also "capable of having a libido and/or capable of loving someone" seems like an easy concept to grasp, but clearly it is akin to quantum mechanics for everybody else.
@chevgage62107 ай бұрын
Personally I just feel bad for people with these opinions because the only way they develop them is through growing up with an abusive environment with horrific values and the only defense mechanism they can use to cope is the fierce defense that it's the right thing to believe or else they have to face victimhood and the effects of that trauma. They just can't.
@kyoudai77 ай бұрын
I had no idea you two were together until a tweet of yours came across my timeline! I loved his video. I saw it and only thought "This is funny and same". I'm going to share this on my socials because you were preaching!
@wonderingjibril12107 ай бұрын
I think what people need to do is kind of mind their own business, everyone's different and everyone's going to have their own opinions on what sexuality is and what someone sexuality may be by looking at their relationship from the outside. But the cause of the matter is the two people or multiple people in that relationship and what they agree on how they live their lives. It's not up to us to decide or dim what is normal what falls into what sexual orientation. Our job is just to accept people as they are if they are being good members of a community trying to be decent people and not trying to cause harm or hateful behavior towards others. Always find it weird when people are interested in someone's sexual feelings or orientations. Yes you can support somebody and feel close to them because they may be the same sexuality as you. But that doesn't mean they are going to follow the same practices as you do within that sexual spectrum. This is something that I myself have learned to do over the years with many people assuming things about me in reality I am very sexually active but I do not have sex with others and that puts me in a very weird category as well. But I don't go around saying that to people nor do I go around thinking about someone else's sexual identity or their sexual preferences
@louisebox16047 ай бұрын
Jo is so supportive x
@sweetlucysdream7 ай бұрын
This is such an affirming video for me. Sometimes, it feels like being asexual throws people off more than me being trans/non-binary. It's not often that I come across something that makes me comfortable and seen in my asexuality ❤
@johnhmaloney7 ай бұрын
Great video. Although, as an aromantic allosexual person, I have to say that ChatGPT's answer to the question about being ace and bi was pretty problematic because it confused romantic attraction with sexual attraction. Romantic and sexual attraction are separate things and people can experience one or the other or both or neither. All of which are normal and valid.
@silversheep73697 ай бұрын
Hey, demiromantic southern enby ace furry here :3 First off, great vid and I hope y'all's busy weeks pass by quick. On the finding community aspect of labels, people often fail to comprehend why some asexual peeps might hang around pro-kink crowds or even support sex workers while still calling themselves ace. Like bruh, kink often involves expression and SWs tend to have more nuance about attraction and relationships. There's few people I connect with quicker. I know there's an assumption of sex repulsion/aversion, but I kinda just like seeing people thriving and being themselves. Granted, I don't speak for all ace people. We're a diverse bunch with a range of experiences and endeavors. I'm actually in a mostly queer furry polycule :3
@Staratopia7 ай бұрын
I'm so sorry that you and Joe are receiving so much malice. I just want you to know that your existence on the internet has helped many people. Your videos about your asexuality and the asexual spectrum helped me and a few of my friends understand how my sister feels. Please never stop being you.
@chevgage62107 ай бұрын
Finding a partner as an ace is hard enough without people making it worse once you do
@AegixDrakan7 ай бұрын
Oh my gods, you and Jo are Couple Goals.
@jospargo84175 ай бұрын
I enjoy seeing how supportive your relationship is. So beautiful. Sad that when you share on the internet it is like walking over a troll bridge. Stay cool 🤗
@thedeltaquadrant6 ай бұрын
ugh. i'm sorry that those attacks caused you phobias. as someone who also struggles with phobias and panic attacks from them, i see you 💜
@jaspergoesrawrr7 ай бұрын
Super fascinating! Thank you for this talk!
@FrogGhost-RBT7 ай бұрын
I watch Joe too! I didn’t realize y’all were dating awesome!
@demeowhiya7 ай бұрын
unrelated but i love the hair color!!!
@PixiePrincess5017 ай бұрын
So, I've been wondering about my own deal. I know I identify somewhat as asexual, due to not feeling sexual attraction to neither men or women, (Actually, graphic depictions of anatomy makes me very uncomfortable.) but I do still feel romantic attraction to men. Does Ace/Not Aro count if you're only romantically attracted to the opposite sex? (To whomever replies, please be don't be mean, as this is a complicated deal for me...)
@TomiThemself6 ай бұрын
Yes. It's called "split-attraction model", where basically, romantic and sexual are two separate things. So you might be asexual heteroromantic, for example...
@TheNinjaLamb7 ай бұрын
As an ace person who has been in a relationship for years one I get that really just irks me is the inability to separate romantic attraction to sexual attraction. Because I've been in a relationship for so long i SURELY must just be mislabeling myself and I'm actually demi. Or even more fun that being ace means I'm actually sex adverse. Nah, sorry folks, it just does nothing for me. Yes I have a libido. Guess what there's plenty of other stuff you can do besides sex to enjoy each other and sate that need. There's also the fun logic of "Oh your partner must just be bad at sex." Jokes on you we're pretty open with our relationship AND I've been in several relationship before my current one. Hasn't changed me yet!
@rangerv17 ай бұрын
ChatGBT
@Smokdopr7 ай бұрын
Chat is part of the community now
@milkk60717 ай бұрын
You should ask it if ai art is damaging for artists online to see what it says 😮
@StrawbsIsAway5 ай бұрын
JoCat & you Based
@lockpickingengineer74587 ай бұрын
This is just just normally human behaviour given a new name 5 minutes ago. I hope to see you back on X soon. I am going to pray that you both get on with your lives and not care about what others think.
@rulesofimgur7 ай бұрын
Jocat: "... there's potential that I might be gay. [Jo] is gay and gay is bad!" Did... Did thy even watch the video? I'm pretty sure he says he likes girls and not guys.
@ihavenoideawhattomakethis7 ай бұрын
DUDE IM SORRY BUT ITS BUGGING ME THE TITLE SAID CHATGBT YOU PUT A B INSTEAD OF P 😭