Does Denis Villeneuve's DUNE 2 represent a watershed moment for HOLLYWOOD and CINEMA itself?!?

[@Maya_Ruinz]

“They are craving, meaningful content” perfect description… that hits exactly at what I want to see.

[@ivariii]

Dude, I could listen to you talk about film all day. Bravo

[@jasonvelozr]

I could listen to Mr. Burnett reading the entire phone book. Cool dude.

[@bestlexluthor7596]

It’s so refreshing to see a fantasy / sci fi movie take itself completely serious. No quips!

[@KnightFoxx1190]

I hope Campea lets you join his spoiler show for Dune 2 or you and the Midnight Crew talk about Dune 2 in detail when you guys meetup.

[@grandmofftarkin4762]

Was thinking the same thing when John said it on yesterday show he’s gonna do an open spoiler discussion. I do too hope that Rob will be a part of that.

[@Tarantino111]

No. ROBS TO EXPENSIVE. JOHN CAMPEA IS CHEAP SCUMBAG

[@Nineteen1900Hundred]

Although it’s sad the Midnight’s Edge crew generally hasn’t been impressed with Villenueve’s Dune films. And they hate Zimmer’s Oscar-winning music.

[@damianking2519]

No to campea. He's irritating, always repeating his questions 3 to 4 times in different ways, thinking everyone is an idiot.

[@generationselfie]

Let’s all be real this is what rob should be doing with this channel

[@Darknight-vr9ft]

This is the first time watching you while not on the Campea show… and I have to say I absolutely love your passion, enthusiasm, and expertise in cinema! You sold me on every movie you talked about that I haven’t seen already! I’ll definitely be coming back after more films. ❤

[@ygbr2997]

Rob is more eloquent and knowledgeable than 99.9% of the "movie critics" out there

[@hugh-jasole]

The fact that there's an entire generation of movie lovers who think Jeremy Jahns and Chris Stuckmann and Grace Randolph are "real " film critics is quite depressing

[@seeRorschach]

It’s incredible to witness such a monumental moment in the history of cinema. This just raised the bar and elevated the ENTIRE genre. Hell it elevated cinema. Since art is never created in a vacuum, I can’t wait to see this film’s influence seen in other movies down the road.

[@flyingnorseman]

You know a movie is powerful when you see it, listen to soundtrack on YT days later and break out in chills over and over whilst recalling the movie. That movie took me to a different universe. Walked out to a cold, rainy day and just felt weird.

[@relint12]

The two biggest scenes that had me on my seats edge was Usul’s first Worm Ride and Lady Fenris from Feyd’s perspective they were both shot and cut so well that I genuinely felt transposed into the scene like there was sand hitting my own face or on a bad trip. I think it gave me a sinuous infection from sand dust and PSTD from college age experimentation…

[@joeyshirey9232]

I love robs take on movies. He lets a movie or show take him on a journey and judges it based on its own merits. Im so tired of youtube reviewers get angry if a piece of media doesnt live up to their own expectations. Its so annoying when reviewers act like theyre above it all and refuse to let something be what it is. I just see so much arrogance these days on youtube where everyone wants to be the arbiter of whats good or not.

[@carolinecraft2713]

Josh Brolin freaking crackes me up. I will watch him on any interview. He is very entertaining!

[@lighthousefilms5530]

Couldn't agree more. Dune Part Two I think will go down as one of the greats of film.

[@gambar]

Word. Thanks to Dennis and Hans!

[@majorlazor5058]

I felt the same about blade runner 2 but it seems to have become more of a cult classic

[@lighthousefilms5530]

@@majorlazor5058 Absolutely love 2049. One of my favorites

[@michaelclark8831]

I understand Robert's frustration with simple naysayers regarding Dune. I felt the same way regarding Braveheart and The Godfather. Great films that require focus.

[@clarissanavarro2762]

The issue is a Lot of viewers have developed too short an attention span, and cannot... what was I saying??

[@arianshahrokh1439]

This shit is so absurdly better than the John campea show wow. Great pod

[@OhRightPictures]

I really hope Rob make video like this more & more. Its such a blessing to have Rob talking about movies. Please do more Rob.

[@w00master]

Agreed Mr. Burnett, the last 3 books of Dune get super weird, but awesomely so. If anyone here is willing, the last 3 books of Dune are astoundingly weird but absolutely amazing.

[@majorlazor5058]

45:45 So true. My girlfriend really dislikes ambiguity in shows. She wants a definitive answer. Even when ambiguity of a character’s motive or how they arrived to a place is rather irrelevant, because either answer still has the same result. For example if Paul believes he is a messiah or if Paul just wants revenge, or maybe a combination of both… does it really matter? The results end up the same. That type of ambiguity is “safe” in my opinion and shouldn’t lead an audience to feel confused or unsatisfied. It should inspire discussion and good natured debate.

[@Magnificent7Seven]

I had no idea that he made Arival, great film!

[@isessogroup]

You can only hope. So many subtle details that Villanueve uses to paint 🎨 this world in. And so many overused tropes that are left out that are just refreshing. Nothing feels forced based on current politics, toy sales, memes, just the most efficient way to project every angle and emotion of the screen play placed directly into your brain. Unforgettable film... or more like.... an atmosphere... You can FEEL everything this movie is trying to portray with its buildup and use of sensory manipulation... of course the soundtrack was phenomenal but the overall sound design may be the best ive ever experienced. Obviously this is a must see in IMAX... Just a masterwork at every level. Everyone involved bought in and gave of themselves for the sake of making something great

[@FrancoisSchnell]

Great analysis. While i wasn't convinced by part 1, I'm really impressed with part 2 and can't wait for part 3 (hopefully).

[@brendenkillough]

Dune Parts 1 and 2 are the most epic Sci fi films since District 9 and Inception

[@K_LCollectibles_Games]

I love how you put District 9 in the graces of Dune. That's one of my favorite movies of all time. Talk about unique and groundbreaking. Seeing it in theaters was incredible just like Dune: Part One and Two. All three films are truly unique and a cinematic experience.

[@comixknight3843]

On my 2nd reread of the series. I truly believe you get 2 different experiences from watching & reading it. Dune messiah is the entry that resonated with me the most & it definitely needs to be adapted. God Emperor of Dune is phenomenal.

[@coderedtonio]

Wow as an guy who loves Nolan and Deni Hearing Rob echo my exact sentiments is so refreshing knowing his love for cinema, cinematography and writing and directing. The best voice on KZbin right now. Dune 2 in a IMAX THEATRE IN Kips Bay New York was just fantastic.

[@JurassicJoey17]

Great stream Rob! Happy to give my 25th superchat. We had such an amazing convo tonight. Even if it deviated from the topic at hand, I think this community helps you get stress off your shoulders some nights, and that’s ok!

[@Obscuros88]

Always respect you Rob because you support reading. TV shows and Films are amazing experiences, but they are short. Books allow to live in a world for weeks and months. Unfortunately, most people don't have the patience or attention span to enjoy that.

[@Queenlemoncake]

Excited to see Dune. I'm seeing it in true IMAX theater at the Indiana State Museum. It's one of the largest screens in the country. Multiple shows are sold out. For years, I would go see movies here, and it was like a hidden gem. I guess people didn't want to drive to downtown Indianapolis. Now, it's almost constantly sold out! The local news did a story about how people were driving several hours to see movies like Oppenheimer and Dune in a true IMAX format.

[@loganastrup6870]

I’m going there to see dune as well and I live 4 hours away. Drove to that theater to see Tenet, Oppenheimer and Intersteller in 70mm IMAX and it was always worth it 🙌🏻

[@urbanexcursion]

Can't wait for Dune Part 2. Going to see it this Saturday in IMAX and I'm hoping to finish the book tonight!

[@patricksoler]

I just love the deep dive and your insight. I came into this late but I'm alllll in.

[@adam3647]

42:13 Would love to hear that conversation!

[@Elwin-w3v]

17:00 Dune 2 talk

[@carolinecraft2713]

I completely agree! You are really missing out if you skip Original Star Trek. Like every show there is some episodes that are not good. However you will miss some great episodes like Balance of Terror, Devil in the Dark, Arena, Space Seed, City on Edge of Forever..... I could go all day but I am sure you get the point!!

[@SaHayes-it2uw]

The movie was outstanding. Visually stunning. I’m still kind of gobsmacked by it.

[@animusvids]

I'd say time is relative, I watched lots of movies from the 60s to the 80s that managed to tell awesome stories in "short" 90 minutes, so in the end it's all about how efficient the writing and direction are

[@within360]

I would hang out at my local book store on Thursday afternoon's, because that was the day they returned from the wholesaler. I would scour the upcoming releases and inform the friendly owners of my preferences. They were very kind and I was a good customer.

[@dfoleyusa]

Robert this is fantastic. I’m glad it’s spoiler free as I’m a big fan of the books and the Lynch Dune and very much so Denis’vision. I’ve seen the first one 3 times and I am watching again with my 16 year old ahead of going to see Dune 2 with him.

[@Magnificent7Seven]

My old theater was an art Deco one with red satin brocaded wall paper and niches with Greco Roman statues in them. You could smell the popcorn from the parking lot!

[@Sam-jx8tv]

I'm going to push back a little on the idea that people don't read anymore. I'm in my late 20s and read a lot as do pretty much all of my friends. I just think there is so much more media besides books out there that we don't consume as much literature as previous generations. Not because we aren't interested but because we have other options.

[@majorlazor5058]

You can’t look at yourself and decide that’s the common trend. I barely know anyone in their 20’s that reads outside of college students.

[@ShelbyBaby27]

I love Denis' comments. Mad Max Fury Road is one of my fav movies because it captures visual storytelling. I was furious how a number of critics simply wrote it off as just an epic car chase. Dune Part I & II does the same. I've never read the books or seen the OG movie/ miniseries and understood what it was trying to say. I'm glad it wasn't filmed back to back. I'm glad they took the gamble.

[@haydengarinduchesne9269]

Thank you rob for the info about David Lynch’s dune spicediver cut just found it I’ve never actually seen the lynch version before so I’m excited to see this extended version.

[@carolinecraft2713]

Amen! I feel the same. All I want is good story & good characters. As long as actors is good for part that is all we need. Yessss!!

[@gloria7190]

I read dune and dune messiah the month before dune 2 came out. Best decision of my life

[@aryaman98]

Denis Villeneuve is perfect for Star Trek

[@thebendu33]

Just curious, in your opinion, would he use the original characters or would he create his own new characters?

[@Red_Ryan_Red]

He would never do it

[@Dularr]

I remember seeing a rerelease of Song of the South in the theater. The movie Earthquake with special theater oversized sub woofers.

[@Zethonring23]

Not seen Dune 2 yet but I can't wait, sounds like everything it should be, and the ideal sort of adaptation. I don't really agree with the notion that doing justice to the source material is not the primary focus of an adaptation. I understand that certain elements from one medium won't work when adapted into another medium but I think there's a big difference between changing something for the sake of coherence and changing based on politics. Some creatives come in on this particular high horse of believing that they're improving on the source material and making decisions that the original writers _should_ have made i.e. the Rings of Power showrunner saying "we're telling the story Tolkien never did." and the showrunners of the new Avatar series blathering on about how "we changed certain things, because several aspects of the original series were iffy" just do your damn job and adapt the story, stop trying to roll your own virtues into it. When you adapt something, whether for film or TV, you should only change it for the sake of making a better film or show, not to make it more ethical, otherwise you're missing the point of the whole story.

[@timebandit1266]

Rob you summed up what this movie is. Its what we as Sci Fi fans have always dreamed of. 🥃

[@douglasbaird6552]

How about a Villeneuve Alien film.

[@winterwolfsden]

shut up and take my money

[@Nineteen1900Hundred]

I’ve imagined he’d be perfect for ALIEN ever since a Sulaco type ship was hovering in the atmosphere in Blade Runner 2049.

[@Orionwayz]

No, Alien and Aliens is enough. And no one could top them. Just like T2.

[@thewakandankingtchaka5331]

Maybe John Carter of Mars would be perfect. Just imagine

[@Bayard1503]

I'm sure he would do great but the Alien franchise for me is dead and honestly is beneath Villeneuve

[@TheSleightDoctor]

Brit here. One reason I only buy or rent old Edwardian or Victorian houses with the original doors and heavy, heavy bolts, is because there's no chance of barging or kicking those things in. None. Your bones will break first - that's why the door has been there for over 100 years!

[@spacecadet-zero]

I certainly hope so, Rob. And this may sound harsh, but I’m also grateful that this will relegate Dune 1984 to the same dustbin as Ralph Bakshi’s Lord of the Rings after Peter Jackson’s epic. As someone for whom Dune is my favorite book (along with the original 6) and foundational to who I became when I read it as a teenager and often since, it pained me greatly that the main representation of Herbert’s masterpiece in popular culture was that incomprehensible mess. I could forgive it’s campiness. But it’s unforgivable sin to me was that it 100% missed and misrepresented the fundamental thesis, themes and premise of Dune. Worse, it inverted them 100% to be the *opposite* of Herbert’s deconstruction of the white savior, anti-colonialism and (to paraphrase him): “Charismatic leaders and Messiahs should come with a warning label”.

[@chasx7062]

OMFG !!! peter jackson plaguarised much of bakshi's lotr

[@TheStarDeth]

Robert, in Dune part 1 in the beginnig of the movie they explain what spice do.

[@79dmcjr]

I'm glad I found this channel. You're great

[@Magnificent7Seven]

I remember watching the Pal War of the Worlds on a B&W tv.

[@jpnw3272]

Thanks for the great commentary Mr. Burnett! I always enjoy listening to you discussing film - and sci-fi! I agree with you about the romantic or modernistic approach Villeneuve is doing with Dune. I also see a bunch of minimalism how it’s shot and of course, the music. Zimmer loves minimalism. However, I did want to write to you about the article you were reading and the author using incorrectly what German Expressionism is. People make this mistake all the time. There is nothing of that in Villeneuve’s Dune. The author needs to read the definition of German Expressionism. I remember when I made the same mistake when I was doing my work on my treatise. My lead professor caught and and I corrected it. Thank you so much for the commentary! I love learning the history and the creation of cinema!

[@GabrielOrtizJr-k5b]

Love this breakdown Rob thank you for your passion and insight ! I feel the same way after seeing it Sunday! The greatest cinematic experience of my life!!!🔥🔥🔥🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

[@RobertQualkinbush]

Remember how it used to be an Event when a movie you watched at the theater finally came to a Network? I remember the sense of excitement. All gone with videos/DVDs. I remember I had a DVD of Raiders of the Lost Ark on my bookshelf that I never watched. I could watch it any time, and that seemed to degrade the value of it. I don't know how many other people feel the same way.

[@dukecunning7046]

I, too, love the Hyperion books! Haven't heard of the Blind Sight book. Probably will check it out.

[@mattkrause1573]

Hell yeah Impression Blend! I remember her

[@stratpack9591]

Dr Chandra finally telling HAL the truth and his subsequent understanding what it means in 2010 is one of the most heartbreaking moments in cinema. 👍😥

[@grinningwombat]

Unfortunately, I live 2 hours away from the nearest "true IMAX" theater. But I have a very trusted theater in my area that I get the loudest sounds and largest screens. I'm so hyped for this movie, seeing it on the 3rd at 10am!

[@marsoelflaco5722]

02:01:20 The Viceroy's expression is priceless!!!😃

[@ElevenEvilExes]

i was born in 1975, and for most of my life going to the cinema was the greatest thing for me. i've seen about 2000 movies at the cinema (i have a spreadsheet), some years i went over 120 times. but today i much prefer watching movies at home. i hate all the idiots at the cinema ruining every movie for me. experiencing a great new movie in my home cinema is a far more immersive experience.

[@maciedixon3983]

Go of an early screening of dune. The true fans were so immersed

[@AloisWeimar]

Those idiots were around in the 80’s and 90’s so wonder why now all of a sudden you notice those things

[@ElevenEvilExes]

@@AloisWeimar no, they weren't, not in these numbers and not in this severity. most people today don't seem to go to the cinema to see a movie anymore, they go to chat during the movie, to eat insane amounts of popcorn with their mouths open right next to my ear, and to use their phones all the time. even just the phone aspect alone proves you wrong, because people didn't have cell phones in the 80s and 90s. and today's audiences can't sit still for more than 10 minutes without feeling the need to talk or eat or look at their phones. it was not like that in the 80s and 90s. if someone in the cinema just whispered a little bit, everyone around them would shoosh them immediately. today i seem to be the only one who even cares because everyone else is behaving like they're at a restaurant with friends.

[@urbanexcursion]

Same. Before COVID, I went to the theater at least once a week. Now I just go a few times a year because too many people are on their phones while the film is playing. It sucks because it feels like I lost a good friend.

[@laartwork]

Just as Tarantino can only do Tarantino like many tried and failed in the 90's. This is a Villenueve special talent and others can't replicate easily.

[@vsznry]

SHOGUN is awesome.

[@thechairman74]

Remember, even back when Disney started to release their classics on home video they'd release them for a short period of time then take them off the market for years at a time.

[@marsoelflaco5722]

Happy Birthday Viceroy!!!🎉🎂✌🏾

[@1973vanguard]

You are correct sir. You're not the camera man, the script sup, the director...you are the writer...write it like you're writing a story, because you are....

[@Sygtrigger]

Disagree a tad on “people don’t read and aren’t seeking seeking new sci-fi”. Sci-Fi and fantasy nerds are alive, well and numerous! Series like Three Body Problem and other mediums (namely video games) have evolved discourse without damaging the conversations themselves. Great stream though! Appreciate a lot of your insights.

[@Lprieto33]

59:55 Rob, don’t forget Legendary’s going to start working with Sony. Dune Messiah might just be made under those that green lit Madame Web. 😬

[@Magnificent7Seven]

For sci fi, i love the Expanse! Books are the best!

[@SageO6PathzGON]

is bradley cooper still not involved with the hyperion? or is that not a thing anymore

[@crowkangi]

im obsessed with blade runner 2049. bring on Dune Messiah!!!!!

[@Alfieliu78]

NINTH GATE BABY!!! YEA!! VERY UNDERATED MOVIE!!👍👍

[@Magnificent7Seven]

Wow, I'm impressed with the sony collection!

[@Magnificent7Seven]

Like Sucker Punch where the songs tell the story!

[@thechairman74]

I find it funny that people say Dune is a nearly 900 page long book. The actual novel portion is only nearly 800 pages, as the rest are appendices. They probably just looked up the page length.😂

[@estellaestella6440]

Hang on, hang on, when you said "I dont think James Cameron would make a movie about a reluctant messiah" I had to press pause and check if anyone has mentioned John Connor from the Terminator films. Isnt he a reluctant saviour/messiah? Like Paul, JC initially rejects what his mum told him as well.

[@virtualrealityfitness283]

It’s sad no one has ever adapted Princess of Mars into a great movie!

[@Magnificent7Seven]

Wizard of Oz, every sping for Easter!

[@Magnificent7Seven]

Arrival is close to his dream as it ironically envolves translation of an alien language.

[@manuelgasse]

To say Denis is a french Canadian « so he’s basically French » is a heresy. There’s not much in common between French Canadians and French people , except for the language. There is nothing French about Denis’s personality. At all.

[@Khultan]

Alan Dean Foster's Flinx And Pip.

[@mattrossesq]

Forbidden planet.. how's that for an ultimate scifi flick for that pantheon. I agree villeneuve makes stunning imagery which 2049 prooved. I personally didn't like 2049 but was impressed with style/imagery and my ability to hold a 20 Oz soda for the entire film.

[@festo512]

Do you agree 2049 has style but it relies on a tired script. Girl missing. guy has to go look for her while dealing with henchmen. Do you agree that plot has been done to death?

[@MarkArandjus]

As I sit here now I am seriously considering going to see Dune for the second time. Mind you, I am a person who hates going to the cinema, I go to the cinema once a year, MAYBE. And regarding the Stuckmann thing the one person mentioned in the superchat: Firstly, I can't believe how much people were so upset by that. Secondly, what his video does is a WAY BIGGER indictment than just another bad review, and far more constructive, but people wanted just another bad review, it seems. This is like if a kid did something horrible at school and the principal said the whole family is dysfunctional and needs therapy, and some people are out here complaining that the kid didn't get detention again. There's like a hundred rants on this film, I don't think rant 101 would've made a difference. He did about the only constructive thing he could (as someone who has experience with making a movie and dealing with studio execs) and offered insight into how crap like this ends up being made. And as a side-note, and I know the person who sent the letter didn't say this, but I am legit disgusted how some people called him a sellout. The man LEFT HIS RELIGION UNDER PAIN OF BEING SHUNNED BY HIS FAMILY AND FRIENDS because he loved cinema, the idea that this is a guy who seeks the easy way out is absurd. Somebody SERIOUSLY SUGGESTED that he didn't want to badmouth Madame Webb because he's afraid that people would bag on Shelby Oaks. In no universe would any filmgoer say 'Screw this Shelby Oaks movie, because the director said mean things about Madame Webb'. THANK YOU Robert for being a class above all the nerdrage grifters.

[@patricksoler]

SPICE DIVER version is way better!

[@dustinneely]

Agree. IMO Denis Villeneuve screwed up the lore way more than David Lynch. What a mess.

[@Magnificent7Seven]

And a vengeance for those who have died!

[@thebendu33]

Dude, you know about Fantasia, I'm amazed

[@THEBURNETTWORK]

I worked on the first DVD release of FANTASIA.

[@thebendu33]

@@THEBURNETTWORK are we talking about the Montreal festival fantasia or the Disney movie? Just to be sure.

[@TheRealmfc90125]

Very simple answer to Rob’s question: no, Dune 2 does not represent a “watershed moment.” It’s not as good as ANH, ESB, Raiders, Matrix I, Avengers, or Casablanca. It’s not even Deni’s best work (Arrival and 2049). People need to stop elevating a movie with so many flaws.

[@KyRoTV91]

What were the flaws?? 🤔

[@TheRealmfc90125]

@@KyRoTV91 no Mentats, Walken was zoned out through his scenes, and I thought the final battle against Rabbah was way too short. And that’s just the start.

[@Fidel_L.Bousquet1970]

@@TheRealmfc90125 Just becasue you, on a personal level ,don't like something doesn't mean it's flawed. The movie is Villeneuve's vision, not the book or "your" vision.

[@Magnificent7Seven]

Who are the other 4?

[@Corion2121]

14:59 😯🏃🏾💨

[@EnerGeezerSquirrel]

Villeneuve is Chaplin on acid. Little if any dialogue required...that's true genius.

[@JavaJunky]

The new Villeneuve 'Dune' films are not for everyone. Although 'Dune' is not hard sci-fi, it is an extremely complex and intelligent work of fiction. Lynch tried to adapt it in 137 minutes, with a lot of exposition and dialogue. If you are going to see the films, you should read the book first, in order to better understand: the many effects of spice, the Bene Gesserit's plans, Paul is not a hero (or white savior), the Water of Life, how space folding works, lasgun interactions with shields, why there are no computers, religion(s), just to name a few. This is a thinking person's sci-fi and there is a lot to unpack.

[@mnoir7257]

Blade Runner 2049 is a nearly perfect film. It's brilliant.

[@luchador1764]

Cant believe Steve Harwell is still alive

[@darrenmackinnon6195]

I wish I could attach an audio file here...In order to inform people how to pronounce Denis Villeneuve's name. Haha...small detail.

[@raymondsmith6870]

There is nothing wrong with loooong movies but for the love of God please bring back intermissions for 8-10 minutes like they used to have in the 50s and 60s.

[@Marvelfan-nu7ve]

and ruin the immersion and pacing?

[@raymondsmith6870]

@@Marvelfan-nu7ve Odd that David Lean and the other great directors and producers of the period didn't thinks so for several decades. Hard to concentrate on immersion when your bladder is bursting with 3.0 hours left to go in a 4 hour movie. Just wait you will find the same happening to you one day.

[@Marvelfan-nu7ve]

@@raymondsmith6870 That why you have to plan your day around movie. If a movie is pushing to 3 hours, I don't eat anything at the show and I won't eat or drink anything for at least 3 hours before the movie so that when I arrive at the theatre, I already empty my bladder. You're overexaggerating the length of movie anyway, there rarely any movie over 3 hours anymore let alone 4.

[@raymondsmith6870]

@@Marvelfan-nu7ve You're forgetting the 25 minutes of commercials and previews(plus arriving 10 minutes early) does push it over 3 hours(definitely for Dune which will be 3.5 hours with added on time)and sometimes close to 4 for Flower Moon. Dehydrating yourself isn't a safe thing to do for 6-8 hours in total for some people who may faint or get lightheaded. Plus some theaters put in an intermission for Flower Moon and told Paramount to pound sand. A humane act by the theater owners who understood the brain can only absorb what the backside can endure.(Morton Blackwell)

[@mukkaar]

I love both Dune movies, I watched them twice in theaters. And I really liked Arrival. But I didn't like new Bladerunner. It was artistic treat. But honestly scenes were wayyy to dragged out and story was kinda uninspiring. Usually I'm all for longer movies, but I felt like you could cut 20-30min off and still be exactly the same movie content wise, and maybe even bit better. Acting was ok, just ok, maybe it was what director wanted, maybe not, but it wasn't interesting or impactful to me. And I liked the original. I still don't get how people like it so much even though I think I would overall align with people that like it. Seeing as I really liked original and I really like Denis style.

[@YawnGod]

I wrote this comment back in August 2022: "Dune (2021) is the greatest science fiction film of all time, being the placeholder for the future greatest sci-fi film of all time, Dune: Part 2. By the time the last greatest sci-fi film of all time would be made, Chapterhouse, The Apocalypse will already be with us, and they're going to end filming mid-production. Because, you know, end times." Behold your future, guys.

[@Delli88Burn1]

Been awhile since I've read the books, but was Paul's motivation to becoming the Messiah about taking revenge for his family? If it was just that, wouldn't he have done so before taking the Water of Life? Seems that it may be deeper than that

[@MSgt_0699]

No. I'd say that Barbie and Oppenheimer were the kick in the pants that Hollywood needed. Dune 2 will just be added to that. They are all reminders that making money is about making GREAT movies, not a temporary and fleeting infusion of cash due to a series of mediocre movies with a cape tossed in.

[@Magnificent7Seven]

Caladon, it is of water.

[@Corion2121]

10:07 Fewer.