Does God Really Love Us? 1 Corinthians 13 vs. Yahweh

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Hey everyone. Here is part 2 of my videos on god and love. Enjoy!

[@Bill..N]

It is VERY difficult for someone to break through decades of mental conditioning to accept unquestionable adherence to a religion..Most believers end up investing so heavily in the emotional entanglements of their fellow devotees that it's virtually impossible for them to go clear of it... BUT, for those who have the courage to examine such deeply carved beliefs, there is NO better channel on social media to accomplish it. Humble opinion, peace.

[@Johnmhatheist]

@@Bill..N I was able to emancipate myself from Christianity, despite being indoctrinated since childhood by my father, a preacher, and my devout Christian mother. Although I still grapple with nightmares about hell, I no longer hold this belief; however, it remains deeply ingrained in my psyche.

[@JAMESLEVEE]

@@Bill..N That's called the 'Sunk Cost Fallacy'. Also called "Doubling Down". Basically, you've invested too much emotionally to give up now.

[@jaycrocker3812]

WOW 😮

[@Bill..N]

@John-kt4lc Exactly right friend.. My experience was similar to yours.. Teaching the hell myth to young children is child abuse, in my opinion.. It sinks pernicious roots into our psyche that never ENTIRELY goes away.. At my stage in life, however, the whispers of these doubts are rare, and I hold them with disdain as the artifacts of ignorance that they are.. Peace.

[@Johnmhatheist]

The biblical God loves us so much that he says that if we don't love him back, which means to obey him, he will throw us into a fire full of brimstone where our teeth will gnash for eternity.

[@tperson8347]

God: ".. I love you SO much. NOTHING can change tha- [God notices something, gets distracted] You mean SO MUCH to m- Wait. What's that? THAT! Right THERE!! What IS this?? The deal is OFF! You're ALL going to be punished!" Person in the crowd: "W-?¿? What's he talking about??"

[@Johnmhatheist]

@@tperson8347 Your comment looks like something that darkmatter2525 would say. If you haven't seen that channel, I recommend it. They basically point out how stupid and contradicting the Bible truly is in a cartoonish manner.

[@tperson8347]

@@Johnmhatheist I think I may have. :)

[@harrynyirenda284]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@thegametroll6264]

​@John-kt4lc sometimes he even literally makes a cartoon depending how stupid this all is in a cartoonist manner. 😅

[@kadenhansen948]

I remember as a Mormon missionary (who received a lot of praise for being one of the best read and studied on my mission), knocking on a man's door who very calmly told us that he is the most staunch atheist and we couldnt change his mind. My companion said "challenge accepted" and he let us in. We had a long conversation, going back and forth with scripture and philosophy and I had one of the most stimulating conversations I'd had in a long while. He even complimented me on not repeating the same dogma he always heard, but i could tell that his arguments were always better than mine. Because of this, I decided to try an appeal to emotion and told him to ask in prayer and reflect on how he felt, that God loves him and would reach out. The sudden sadness and trauma that welled in his eyes as he just said "you have no idea how many times ive tried that. He either isn't real, or he doesn't love me. Either way, he has nothing to offer me and I have nothing for him." That resonated with me way more than i could have imagined. We left, and that started my five year deconstruction journey that was incredibly painful. I just "came out" as atheist to my family last week and I have still been surprised by the love and support I've received. I had church leaders encourage me to ask questions, read every translation of the bible, listen to both sides and that would lead me to the truth. They arent happy with what I found to be the truth but they are happy i am being honest with myself and now others. It may be easy to convince yourself that god loves you, but to claim he loves everybody is to ignore the millions who have felt entirely neglected after reaching out with everything they have.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thanks for sharing. Very glad to hear you got out and how positive its been so far

[@SeekingVirtueA]

Sad and beautiful comment. Kudos to you and your journey.

[@TK.D36]

Great story bro. Thanks for sharing. It's so rare to wake up to this after that long. Truly divine of you mate. Mine started at 5 at my 2nd class of sunday school when I said God is evil like the devil for turning lots wife into salt. I was kicked out by the nun and would only go to church after that for funerals. I refused to go at xmax every year. Mum is a catholic and dad is an atheist so nothing was forced on me. Yeah they're still married too.

[@gavinyoung-philosophy]

What an impactful story my friend. So glad your journey out has been met with such kind remarks! All the love to you on your journey and interactions :)

[@CBraximus]

"It isn't love if it's commanded or threatened." Perfect

[@danielbeasley5247]

Most people who don't believe in God complain about Him supposedly not intervening with the bad things that are happening in the world, but when he makes a command in the bible on how to conduct yourself then that isn't love? So let me guess if a God does exist he shouldn't command anyone to do anything, instead he should just let everything happen otherwise he will be accused of not being loving, or better yet if he threatens punishment for evil deeds then also he is somehow unjust?

[@xtina2189]

The god of mysterious terms & conditions.

[@Chuck-se5hh]

Well said!!!!! That's the truth!!!!!! Very rude of God!

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Ha. Indeed!

[@UnliHighlights]

dont read, just hit agree.

[@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman]

​@@UnliHighlightscompanies loves this

[@CatDaddyGuitar]

God's love is conditional. "To love me is to obey me ".

[@Johnmhatheist]

Exactly.

[@uncleanunicorn4571]

Silly atheist, God's love is unconditional, As long as you fulfill lots and lots of conditions. And maybe not even then.

[@CatDaddyGuitar]

@@uncleanunicorn4571 unconditionally conditional? 😄

[@Childfree334]

@@uncleanunicorn4571 I'm stealing this. 😂😂

[@michaelsbeverly]

@@uncleanunicorn4571 Yeah, it's funny to listen to a Christian describe "agape" love. God loves unconditionally but if you don't fall in line, you're toast. lol

[@neonshadow5005]

"Why would you worship someone who tortures people?" "I just trusted that you would know what was just. God is good, God is love." "Love? Since when does love have anything to do with inflicting agony?" If you know where this came from, you're awesome.

[@kimberlyisome1154]

The replacement of Job's children is a glaring example of how God sees us. You can't kill 10 of my kids and then give me 18 new kids. The lose of a child is something that forever changes you and your family. All for a test that an all knowing God would have to preform because he should already know that Job is innocent.

[@Chuck-se5hh]

Yes, the God of the Bible has a severe personality disorder.

[@suicune2001]

@@Chuck-se5hh Narcissistic personality disorder, to be precise and probably a couple others.

[@johntiggleman4686]

@kimberlyisome1154 The story of Job has bothered me since my youth (a looong time ago).

[@starpeep5769]

Preach! (Not in that way in the 💅 way)

[@auroraasleep]

Bible God talks about people like a large company talks about employees.

[@Halimo-j9h]

As a muslim, i was taught the fear and wrath of god. I was terrified of going to hell. I am glad i left that behind.

[@dan_goodman]

The concept of hell is a really nasty way our religions keep people from leaving or questioning. Sorry you've had to suffer with that fear and hope you're finding a way to deal with it. I still get the 'what if hell is real and I'm going there' thought sometimes and I left Christianity 15 years ago.

[@christophergibson7155]

@@dan_goodman Well yeah. Jesus spoke about Hell more than anyone else. And it is only those who have zero assurance about their salvation in Jesus that have a constant fear of Hell. If you do, then you know something is really wrong. Why did you come to The Lord Jesus in the first place? Is what you should ask yourself.

[@hamobu]

I was a Muslim too. I was taught that all the good people will go to Jannah unless you are explained Islam and you reject it (so I guess I know where I'll be going). I know that other Muslims disagree with that interpretation. I was also taught that you obey God, not to please him, but because it's good for you. It's like the kids have to brush their teeth, not to please their parents, but because it's good for them. In Islam, God doesn't actually need you for anything and you can't really phase him. The punishment from God was supposed to be corrective and not vengeance.

[@Halimo-j9h]

So God threatening people with hell if they don't do as he says is good for them. I don't fear hell anymore because it's made up.

[@QuestionThingsUseLogic]

​@@dan_goodmanfantastic that you've been freed from religious bondage aka christianity!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@BCole-bj4lv]

I love it! As a child, I used to sit in Church and think, "Isn't this God a monster?" while all around me sat adults saying he was "Love". It was so ludicrous, what was preached to me, but I so felt that I had to believe it. It is so much easier when rationality is employed and the craziness ends. .... Such a good video!

[@artOVtrolling]

There’s a reason most Christians hold off on the fire and brimstone for the first years of a child’s life. Children aren’t the most wise but they are the most intuitive and they can easily intuit the true nature of Yaaldabaoth.

[@roc5291]

God’s Perfect Love? More like God’s Perfect Ultimatum. “Love me or else I’ll burn you in a fire pit for eternity” is not love, folks.

[@tperson8347]

He means perfect love for himself

[@johntiggleman4686]

@roc529 "But justice!!" one would hear from apologist, teachers and preachers. As they say in Yiddish, such a shanda!

[@Cuffsmaster]

Well said

[@Peekaboo-Kitty]

Incorrect. People go to Hell because they did Evil things and hurt others deliberately. i.e. Ted Bundy. If you're a good person who helps people then you have nothing to worry about.

[@Peekaboo-Kitty]

Show me the verse where God says if you don't love Me I will send you to HELL???

[@sledderal1016]

Savage. Not in fiery emotional delivery but in your concise contextual precision and brevity. One of my favorite videos yet.

[@johntiggleman4686]

@sledderal1016 No, but he got "het up" pretty good.

[@Kontraleah]

All of this content is consistently GOLD!!! 👌

[@CafeteriaCatholic]

Thank you for what you do. I grew up in a chrisian household and one of the first song I learned by heart was about how much more god loves me, than my own father. Looking back, that's not true. Although I did nasty things I couldn't loose the love of my parents. And when I call them, they answer me. They don't hide from me. Either god doesn't love me, or he doesn't exist.

[@suicune2001]

OMG, the flashbacks on that "Jesus loves me. The Bible tells me so." song in sunday school. I always hated that freaking song. lol. I was a weird kid but I never felt love whenever I sang those songs or read those Precious Moments books. I don't know why but I just never did. It's weird when one of my brothers says he's always felt some kind of loving presence which is why he's still alive today. I really had to bite my tongue to keep from bringing up how many loved ones didn't even make it to see 30 with us. I didn't want him to have survivor's guilt.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Perfect! Thanks for sharing

[@paulnicolas172]

The God of Christianity is the ultimate bully - he leaves no direct evidence of his existence over and above any other religion and expects people to believe just based on trust and it’s do things my way or else ....eternal torment without our any chance of escape . I wouldn’t allow my worst enemy to suffer that way but the loving God of Christianity would ? And if only a few will be saved then that’s a lot of people going to end up in hell compared to those in heaven - hardly a victory over death Christ supposedly provided - sounds like the devil won in the end as he will have the vast majority over to his side . Seems like God only loves a few and it seems that God chose these in advance before the world was created at his pleasure anyways as well so it’s not as if we have a choice really anyways as it mentions in Ephesians 1:5 - So according to this verse , if God chose people in advance even before the world was created to be saved he also created the vast majority of people to end up in hell if you follow the logic - so why would he create people who would end up in hell in the first place ? Surely it would be better for them not to have been born ? What a Cruel God .

[@suicune2001]

@@paulnicolas172 100%! An all-knowing all-powerful deity's plan to PROVE their existence and intentions is through a book written in bits and pieces over the course of thousands of years, edited, added, and redacted by sexist racist men in a backwards society in a language most people can't read? AND is susceptible to manipulation or could be lost entirely? I mean...bruh. 🤣

[@mykeljmoney]

@@suicune2001I never liked it either, but I have to say, Paulogia’s “For The Bible Tells Me So” jingle is fantastic, so in that way I guess I’m glad the song exists

[@Johnmhatheist]

Brandon, this is totally unrelated, but I just read the last three chapters of Judges over again as an atheist without my God glasses on, and I was horrified to read what I read.

[@imjustsayingthough2261]

God glasses ... I love this 😅

[@Johnmhatheist]

@@imjustsayingthough2261 I heard Seth Andrews use that phrase, and I've used it ever since.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Its truly insane! I cover it in both my judges video and even deeper in a video i did about allan parr if you want more.

[@michaelsbeverly]

@@Johnmhatheist I'm from Southern California and I can't listen to Seth Andrews without flashbacks to being stuck on the freeways of Orange County. lol He used to be one of the hosts on a Christian FM station that was super popular back in the day (maybe still today, for all I know). It's super weird hearing him as an atheist.

[@michaelsbeverly]

@@MindShift-Brandon Dude, I love doing video responses to Alan Parr (the latest one is where he uses the words b*t*h and a$s and says, "You thought I was cursing." lol, no...he was talking about a female dog and a donkey, of course. hahahahahhahahahahhahah he's a great target as he's either very unthinking, or very intelligent but simply condescends to his audience

[@Kontraleah]

“You’re just overthinking it, Brandon.” (That is thick sarcasm and a variation of a direct quote from my father to me anytime I bring up Biblical contradictions)

[@dawnalawrence6584]

For at least 60 years I've been saying God does NOT love ME! The Jacob/Esau verse is one I brought up in numerous bible studies. It said he HATED him in the WOMB. That speaks VOLUMES! What the hell could a FETUS have done to "disobey" God!? I always said that verse also applied to ME because it seemed evident early on that I was NOT one that God had much regard for!

[@cannabotany]

I am sorry you have felt like something was disliking you. That sounds really cruddy. I do hope that you have found love and kindness though. Have a wonderful day!

[@MindShift-Brandon]

There is no god to hate you. Let go of this ideal of a loving god in the universe until/unless we have any good reason to think so. My point with this video isnt to prove god doesnt love, its to show how ordinary and manmade this god concept is. I hope you find real human love or already have it because god wont be doing anything.

[@dawnalawrence6584]

@@MindShift-Brandon Thank you. My parents didn't care about me either so I've had lifelong rejection issues. LOL!

[@goldenalt3166]

​@MindShiftSkeptic I find the "ideal" of a "loving God" to be useful. Never let a theist off at just proving "that which we call God".

[@blueStarKitt7924]

😞😢 May you heal and find peace and love.🙏❤️

[@greenleaf239]

The verse from Psalms 11:5 at 3:27 seems to be defining the wicked as "those who love violence", yet Yahweh commands certain people to commit violence, and does so himself. Growing up Catholic, I never understood the idea of God loving me, since I saw him as a threat. Those seemed like mutually exclusive ideas. I also wondered whether my parents loved me the way God did.

[@blueStarKitt7924]

😔🙏❤️

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Good points. None of it makes sense

[@Peekaboo-Kitty]

I presume you're against the Death penalty then? So the Wicked should not be punished according to your ideology?

[@theresemalmberg955]

I grew up Catholic too, in the "bad old days" just prior to Vatican II, and I totally get what you are saying about seeing God as a threat. He seemed, according to various visionaries, to constantly be offended with the whole lot of us. There is a channel currently featuring the teachings of Bishop Fulton J. Sheen who was popular back in the '50's--all you have to do is look for the images of the unsmiling stern nuns in full habit. That tells you everything you need to know. This was the Catholicism I was brought up in. I get chills seeing those images.

[@JAMESLEVEE]

@@Peekaboo-Kitty there is a big gap between not killing someone as punishment and not punishing them at all, but you just presented that false dichotomy as the only available options. Are uou aware that even a 4 year-old can spot a problem there? And sometimes killing is not done by the wicked but by the just. You can't arbitrarily determine what is justified. That's what laws are for, and if God is not subject to laws then he cannot be considered just.

[@zacharylehocki]

I think you had me at the first one Brandon! The Yahweh God is definitely not patient and not slow to anger. What an irony for Christians who believe they`re God is love that God doesn`t fit even the Biblical definition of love! This list is well researched and well done.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Many thanks, Zach!

[@iluvtacos1231]

Absolutely love that you shortened Deuteronomy to just Doot.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Ha. I kinda feel like its a little inside joke with the channel at this point after seeing how bad it am at pronouncing it.

[@johntiggleman4686]

@@MindShift-Brandon I noticed that watching your "Doot" video. As some wag once said, "Brevity is the soul of wit." And "Doot" is very witty!

[@jeffbenelli6999]

This is why your work is so important Brandon, even for a person like me who is very much trying to understand the Bible would miss passages such as the ones you out in this episode. This is why I am so appreciative of what you do thank you so much.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

So glad to fill in the faps when and where i can. Thanks, Jeff!

[@DavidRichardson153]

For me, what made it quite clear that not only does God not love _everyone,_ but that he does not love *_anyone,_* is the entirety of Revelation. After all, it starts with a few "warnings" to a few churches, and then it is just nothing but atrocity after atrocity, horror after horror, war crime after war crime that God has the angels inflict upon _all_ of humanity, making absolutely distinction between the "true believers" and the not (no mention at all of anything even remotely resembling the Rapture). The book made it clear to me that complete faith/belief in God was not going to spare me or anyone else from death or the eternal punishment theists regularly claim us atheists are in for. So, in my best Lewis Black impersonation, I ask, why would I love, believe in, or worship a God that is going to be nothing but an absolute prick to me no matter what?

[@pleasedontkillme1185]

The only way I would respect god if he turns out real is if he was like god in Darkmatters videos. Specifically the video with a Atheist, Christian and Muslim. A real loving god would not send someone to hell just because they didnt believe he existed.

[@gusgrizzel8397]

It's quite prickish to tell us that he answers us, etc. , when we never get even one word from him. He was quite talkative in the OT, though!

[@wabbajack2]

Have you heard the Good Word of our Lord and Devourer Cthulhu?

[@meh8879]

As a Christian, this is stuff I often have questions about and think about a lot. I haven't been able to get a lot of answers for it. I appreciate this video, and how you keep everything objective and factual.

[@sharongillesp]

This channel is like learning the Earth revolves around the sun instead of The Sun revolving around the earth.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Ha! I love that. Thanks for watching

[@Orbit42]

Excellent, thank you. 1 Corinthians 13 is exactly why I left Christianity/religion.

[@YNWA-1]

Have to watch this episode more than once 👍🏼 to memorize it…Brilliant Brandon, absolutely Brilliant.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Appreciate that so much!

[@survive323]

Great job on exposing the truth. What gets me is Christian's saying jesus is coming soon. Their god is omnipresent, he is already here and doesn't give a damn.

[@Chuck-se5hh]

Well said!!!!!

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thanks so much.

[@suicune2001]

Didn't Jesus already come? He was only "gone" for three days. So he technically already came back a looooong time ago. lol

[@marym9245]

The rapture- ugh- a true mark of ignorance. And I used to believe it all- double ugh.

[@suicune2001]

@@marym9245 Don't feel bad. I'm embarrassed for things I used to believe and argue for. It happens to the best of us. The important thing is we eventually correct based on evidence and logic. :)

[@leoaguinaldo65]

MindShift is actually a classroom. I'm glad I've subscribed. 👍

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Glad to hear it. Thanks for being here!

[@abstraction6212]

MindShift the new church we go to on sunday

[@Fullyautomagic]

“It’s better to be feared than loved, so love me or die.”

[@christophergibson7155]

Ridiculous comment

[@QuestionThingsUseLogic]

@Fullyautomagic absolute truth!!

[@Noise-Conductor]

@@christophergibson7155Ridiculous comment

[@joesmith4098]

This is one of your best videos by far. You have crafted a pretty rock solid and compelling case using nothing but the bible. Well done.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Many thanks! Appreciate that

[@SteelSquishy]

Actual goat​@MindShiftSkeptic Time to start a fight with my family

[@nexpro6985]

In the absence of evidence for the existence of god or any other gods I am going with no god to love us.

[@DLB-m3g]

Absolutely amazing. I'm going to be listening to this again and would love to be able to memorize it. We've been so hoodwinked into thinking this God is 'love' where it is clearly the case that he is not! Well done once again, Brandon.

[@Chuck-se5hh]

Well said!!!! Yes, hoodwinked.

[@christophergibson7155]

It is rather obvious that you have never know the love of God, that is in Jesus Christ The Lord, then.

[@gusgrizzel8397]

@@christophergibson7155 Your god hides, which means he is deceptive.

[@christophergibson7155]

@@gusgrizzel8397No. God does not hide. He has revealed Himself to YOU through His Son, The Lord Jesus Christ. And He has revealed His Will for You through His Word, The Holy Bible. Turn to Christ and live !

[@QuestionThingsUseLogic]

​@@gusgrizzel8397the responder to you is a troll

[@Wahots79]

I really wish I could get my mum to see all this. She claims to be non-denominational but is essentially Pentecostalist Evangelical. She was a missionary with YWAM. I tried for years to believe, but even as a very young child I couldn't get straight answers from pastors ... I never have. I'm doing what I can to keep my daughter out of the christian church, but it's hard when her grandmother is constantly preaching at her. I don't want to cut the two of them apart, my daughter adores her grandma and I want them to have a good relationship... I'm struggling on how to allow them to have a healthy relationship without my daughter ending up brainwashed before she's 10.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Im right there with you! Ive had to set pretty firm boundaries with my mother about what she can talk about with my kids. Its uncomfortable but necessary

[@GameTimeWhy]

Like Brandon said, set boundaries. She should understand this because her god makes it clear "follow my word or you have removed yourself from me". On a serious note, really say boundaries and teach your child how to think not what to think. Critical thinking is good to learn as a child.

[@berkah6240]

I fully agree with setting boundaries, and I've needed to do the same with my parents. Their minds aren't prepared to handle such psychological manipulation yet. Just wanted to mention in case it helps, that kids seem to be especially sensitive to how animals are treated. So I only needed to point out to my daughter how God allegedly drowned all the animals and demanded animal sacrifices in the Bible and she instantly said she doesn't believe Christianity is true. She hasn't waivered since😅

[@Badficwriter]

Raising children with an eye to invisible powers is tough. I agnostically supported it--my early issues with Christianity were due to old verses and prayer about sin and hell--until my son told me he was protected from cars hitting him when he crossed the street because of his spiritual symbol necklace. I was VERY alarmed and basically had to counter everything I'd ever said.

[@18471902]

Make sure your daughter receives a broad education and teach her to think for herself and draw her own conclusions about anything and everything. When she reaches the age that she can take on the Bible for herself, encourage her to read it from beginning to end. I adored my very religious grandmother and she began teaching me the Bible from before I can remember; and, otherwise, I was brainwashed to being a christian from a very early age. It was when I got a little older and began reading the Bible on my own--and I mean the ENTIRE Bible--that I began to have considerable doubts. Although much damage had been done as a result of my being indoctrinated with christianity, I was later able to salvage much of my life upon de-convertion.

[@26beegee]

Thank you so much for compiling all this information in such a clear and concise way. It must take a lot of time and effort to research, script, record and edit the videos. You are providing a truthful, balanced education that we never get in church. You are a natural scholar and excellent communicator! 👏❤️

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thanks so much, Beegee! Thats really kind of you to say!

[@PatrickWDunne]

MindShift is a great name for this channel. Really gets me thinkong about the Bible in new ways 🎉

[@MindShift-Brandon]

So glad to hear it.

[@Tommy_Stewart]

They’re never this critical with the “God is love” passages…YES!!! 🙌🏻

[@berkah6240]

Great job! And all in exactly 20 minutes! I'm working up the courage to share it😂 I had a friend who grew up in the same fundie Assembly of God church as I did and he became an associate Pastor as an adult, and he actually came to the conclusion that God isn't all loving. But he very much still believes and says that it makes God even better to not be all loving because it makes him more just. So that removes one of the three omnis!

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Yes its so funny how certain individuals or groups have had to come to the correct conclusion that god cannot possibly love everyone. But then its insane how they still want to or try to justify that. Like give it up!

[@goldenalt3166]

​@@MindShift-BrandonIt makes a lot more sense that the father and son are different. However, you can probably might examples of Jesus doing a lot of unloving things, too.

[@JAMESLEVEE]

Is God perfectly just, or perfectly merciful? The two are truly mutually exclusive, so you can't make claims for both and have him be consistent, therefore perfect.

[@berkah6240]

@@JAMESLEVEE Solid logic!

[@goldenalt3166]

@@JAMESLEVEE Logically, you can't be three and one, but that's never stopped them from claiming it.

[@josephcollins6033]

It IS devastating when you give it up. I remember how lonely I felt when all of my saints and other invisible friends were gone. The most difficult part was giving up the assurance that I would be with loved ones again. But, it became easier and actually fun (but for that one part which does torment me still; of course it does) when I began to read and THINK!

[@Cuffsmaster]

I was brainwashed as a child and yes losing invisible friends was hard.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

100%!

[@josephcollins6033]

@@Cuffsmaster I'm so very sorry about that. We were mighty lucky; daddy was agnostic, I guess; mama had been raised in a dreadful church and was glad to get out. I didn't really become a Christian until I was 35!! I wanted something new. What an idiot, I was!

[@Cuffsmaster]

@@josephcollins6033 "what an idiot" NO you see it for what it is so go from there. Just don't fall for the 'backslider" b/s. It is trick wording used to make themselves feel safe. After all you didn't really leave the faith you are just drifting off base. All they have to do is scare you back on base. Much like a pitcher scaring a runner back to first base when he as a lead of the base toward second base. They can't rest if you leave the faith because it upsets and makes them fear for their on faith. They would have to look at what logic you used to leave the faith. There is safety in numbers for them and their faith

[@iluvtacos1231]

Great video. I really liked having the verses on screen as you read them.

[@mistral9950]

I love how much in the community we talked about a all loving benevolent god and at the same time we have to fear him

[@elainejohnson6955]

Another great video Brandon! Thanx! The Biblical god character is the epitomy of, "Do as I say, not as I do!".

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Ha no doubt! And thanks so much

[@VioletWonders]

My dad, grandad, uncles and cousins are all preachers and I think you would have made a great preacher as well! I almost wanted to yell out "AMEN!" during that last bit!! Keep up the important work.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Ha. Thanks so much!

[@melodywithawhy]

Another great video Brandon. Always appreciate how organized and concise the information is. Also, I just wanted to say that every time you allude to the possibility of a video being too long, I think: no no no, keep going! Ha, I personally love long videos!

[@healthyselfwithkristi7459]

I agree!! We want more!

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thank you so very much.

[@Chuck-se5hh]

You deserve a medal!!!!!!! You are going where no one else has dared and you are completely correct and honest in this!!!!!! You are simply and boldly stating the obvious, directly from Scripture itself. Your work is a historic culture-changer, directly from the Scriptures themselves as basis. The Bible has NEVER faced the scrutiny from its own words as you are subjecting it to, and by its own words it declares you blameless in doing so, for we are commanded to 'search the Scriptures to see if these things are so.' (Acts 17:11).

[@scottblack7182]

Yes it has 😂 everything he says has been said many times and yes the Bible has been refuted on its own words . Maybe you're just too young or too new to this topic but do more research there has been many like him . Although his work nonetheless important.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

You are too kind. But i am not the first by any stretch and i hope there will be many more. Maybe this video happened to get to you at the right time in your life and thats why i do it. The more voices the better chance in many more knowing truth. Not special here, just wanting to do my part. But thank you.

[@presentfuture7563]

@@scottblack7182 Honestly, and I say this as an elder who had few resources in the 80s, there can't be too many! In the pre-internet 90s, I worked in one of the country's largest bookstores, and I had to scour the shelves and cross-reference bibliographies to find much that was more than the philosophically hashed-over bones of classic objections. Philosophically and historically, I used Robert Ingersoll, Bertrand Russell, Carl Sagan and George Marsden as my incomplete deconstruction support, but there was nothing more than "When God Becomes a Drug" (by a priest!) for psychological deconstruction until Marlene Winnell's "Leaving the Fold" came out. After 2000 there was a bit of an avalanche in atheist publishing, but there was also an internet by then. Tl;dr More voices good.

[@lccp690]

God gives serious “king Joffrey” vibes sometimes.

[@Einherjar3904]

:D

[@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman]

Who

[@BookishChas]

Excellent video Brandon! I loved how you pointed out that all it takes is one discrepancy to unravel god’s supposed unconditional love.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thanks!

[@Heidi2003]

Great thorough breakdown. You are doing a great job! Thanks for all your hard work.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

My pleasure. Thanks so much!

[@garyhershkowitz3435]

YOU NAILED IT AGAIN!!!

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thanks so much, Gary!

[@Lightman741]

Good is love. Love keeps no record of wrong doing....and he pulled out the lambs book of life that contained all the evil deeds!

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Right?! Its so simple

[@MrYoko101]

The common refrain of Evangelicals also comes to mind when we talk of god’s love. God had no problem ordering the eradication of the canaanites, the deaths of the entire family that man who kept some Canaanite treasure for himself, and the deaths of Ananias and Saphira in the New Testament. So much for the inherent value of human life!

[@nexpro6985]

@Mindshift thank you for for efforts.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Always. Thanks for being here!

[@andrewpoolman3707]

Thank you Brandon. You're doing God's work.

[@soyevquirsefron990]

Whenever you read “Love” in the Bible, read instead the phrase “jealously wants your soul” and it makes more sense. God wants you to give your soul to him and punishes you if he can’t have it. Some abusive humans call that love too, but it’s not. Also replace “good” with “whatever god wants”

[@jasonhighlander]

When the list went up at 4:01, I was like "Oh snap, Brandon's doin' his thing!". Nicely done, wow. You are anointed and called to release Christians from bondage.

[@Chuck-se5hh]

Indeed.

[@RationalZellinial]

Brandon thank you so much for this channel! I share with every person that I can have an open conversation with. Your work is extremely important!

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thats amazing! Thanks so much for this kindness

[@pippinlowe6555]

I really appreciate you doing videos on this subject. It left me kind of speechless, as who would have thought that God's love is just another tool he uses to receive admiration from us lowly humans.

[@luismarroquin8453]

No Brandon, don't get it wrong, you haven't done too many videos, I can't really get enough of your videos, true eye opening for a lot of us new deconverters, keep up your excellent work and know that it has been well received and appreciated.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thanks so much!

[@johntiggleman4686]

Devastating video! Excellent.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thanks so much!

[@gecalebsmith]

Great video. Well thought out points. Never ceases to make me sad though.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thank you much

[@zach2980]

You are so good at this Brandon!

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Hey thanks so much for that encouragement

[@almcdermid9669]

Even as a non-Christian former believer, I have to say that is one of you most powerful videos. This one is going to change lives.

[@Chuck-se5hh]

Well said!!!!!

[@douglassmolens1455]

Your analysis is devastating and I love it.

[@stefanheinzmann7319]

True love, finally!

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thank you much!

[@elliottpaine9259]

Thanks a lot Brandon! Again, great video and I love when you do these deep dives. Between stuff like this about god "not being all love" and learning about how much the new testament is just greek stories rehashed, is enough to deconvert me. Hopefully many more to come. Cheers

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thank you! Appreciate that

[@briobarb8525]

Wow...I can appreciate your story as a (former) member of a Mormon family for many generations. I am happy for you and your family's response and support. That is real love. Congratulations. I got totally the opposite when I left 35 years ago. And to this day...no contact from many of my large family, and occassional tempered tolerance from the others. In other words...anything but love and acceptance. I still do not regret my choice and decision. Just wish gracious love would have held our familial relationships together.

[@DM-zq8qy]

I thought “God loves me” for 60 years. My mind was in KNOTS over the hell doctrine!

[@bobkost5731]

I admire you for your courage and you do make a lot of sense I can certainly relate to your Journey because it's very similar to the one that I've taken and I'm 65 years old

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thank you very much

[@chipperhippo]

I think this video shows why understanding theology is so important when it comes to counter apologetics and challenging the Christian worldview. The observations here are so much more well positioned to land/ move a believer than just mocking ‘sky daddy’ or calling them stupid, etc.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Really appreciate that kind feedback!

[@rodseller9936]

I am so happy I found your channel.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thanks, Rod. Happy to have you here.

[@QuestionThingsUseLogic]

Brandon NEVER disappoints!

[@GodlessGranny]

Really good points! I hadn't seen all the verses about god hating!

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thank you and so much more where those came from too!

[@redraven_the]

Your passion here is fiitting to the topic!

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thanks!

[@jeremybristol4374]

Great work! I hope this may free some people from their mental enslavement to this character.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

I hope so too. Thanks so much!

[@eensio]

Splendid idea and presentation of the problem of evil. The story of Job describes the nature of ”our loving God”.

[@janisnotjoplin1]

This is one of your best presentations, absolutely GOLD. I will commit this to memory. Thank you so much for all your work.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Appreciate that very much. Thanks!

[@CatDaddyGuitar]

Awesome breakdown 👏🏻 This is something that I thought of doing but seemed overwhelming LOL... Great job!

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Ha. Thanks so much!

[@ButtercupBerry1234]

love your videos....and this is another very good one 🙂 👍

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thanks so much!

[@Kontraleah]

I always appreciate getting some weekly time in The Word of Brandon.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Love having everyone here! Thank you

[@pedroheilel130]

First like and first viewer? ..Im.blessed.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Hey thanks for being here!

[@jmparker78]

My friend, there aught to be ten of you for every pastor out there. I don't even have any real notes, this was just perfect. And I love how you invalidated the cherry-pickers from the word go. It's fun to watch them twist themselves into knots trying to make the "bad" verses line up with the ones they prefer!

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Very kind. Thanks for this!

[@Rockyandmom]

Preach brotha, preach! Lol 😊 I affirm your assessment of these concepts.. Much love ❤

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Haha thanks so much! Appreciate that

[@lindareese4579]

Thank you young man for your wisdom...for sharing...

[@BluStarGalaxy]

Top notch video. The breakdown of christian claims with bible verses is very good. I hear that Romans 8:38-39 verse way too much and it is just so deceitful. Would love more takedowns of christian claims in the future! They are some of your best and the passion you have for the topic shows in your videos.

[@Chuck-se5hh]

Yes, top-notch indeed.

[@OnlyLezLee1official]

Omg, I wanted to create a post the other day with this exact concept in mind! Glad you did it first, now all I have to do is share! AWESOME. Thanks Brandon!

[@MindShift-Brandon]

So glad to have helped!

[@stevewebber707]

You know what might make me think God loves me? Examples of God doing loving things for me.. But then I first need examples of God existing and doing anything whatsoever.

[@suicune2001]

When you have to point out to someone, "A loving person wouldn't make you literally beg on your knees and call yourself a dog before they'd help you." you know you have problems.

[@christophergibson7155]

You know God exists but you suppress the truth in your unrighteousness. (Romans 1:18)

[@suicune2001]

@@christophergibson7155 Leave it to a narcissist to tell me what I know and what I believe. It's every cult leader's playbook.

[@christophergibson7155]

@@suicune2001 I am only telling you the truth. It is not my opinion. False accusations are not helping you to come to Jesus with a broken and a contrite heart over your sin. For God resists the proud, but gives His grace to the humble. Jesus is ever so faithful !

[@suicune2001]

@@christophergibson7155 Jesus said he ONLY came for Israelites. He doesn't care about me. And you are 100% telling me your opinion. You believe your opinion is fact but it is merely your opinion. You might as well be telling me it's a FACT that Santa Claus loves me. I have just as much evidence for Santa Claus as you do Jesus.

[@NotSoMoist]

First of, great video and very informative I've been looking for these kinds of verses for a while so thanks And second, I keep forgetting to ask this but will you ever cover the " forbiden" books of the Bible?

[@Rockyandmom]

Put gawd to the test.. The sweetest words ever spoken 😊 Honest assessment of your worldview..

[@deb6252]

Thank you, always. Appreciate so much - the clarity you present. The sense you make to clear the fog of confusion

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Appreciate this really thoughtful comment

[@coachbrendan]

Spot on again, Brandon. Your critical analysis of the Bible is outstanding. Brilliant channel

[@glennthomas7027]

Please keep the good work up I’m just in the process of deconstructing excellent work

[@Kathy-n7f]

Please don't leave your Savior

[@dewardroy6531]

Wow! Always so much to take in and process. Thinking is hard. If it was easy, everyone would do it.

[@damianabbate4423]

I think your approach to getting believers to rethink their positions is the best way. Philosophical discussion doesn't work, arguing or making fun of their ideas doesn't work. When pushed, believers always fall to scripture to back up their position and feelings. Getting believers to really get to know their holy book and what it says is why they don't like Bart Ehrman, Dan McClellan and you.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Appreciate that!

[@christophergibson7155]

Why would anyone who is a true born again follower of Jesus Christ want to rethink their position? That would be a step downward into DOUBT. And since The Lord Jesus Christ has clearly said that He is "the Way, the Truth, and the Life, there is absolutely no reason to think otherwise.

[@damianabbate4423]

@@christophergibson7155 You're making the fallacy that it's my responsibility to maintain a one sided relationship with the god of a book. I was a true born again believer, and re thought my position. Nothing about who jesus is or what he said can go any further than what a book said a long time ago. The more I learned about what the scripture says and how it came about, the more i can say what jesus has to offer is nothing. How would it be a step down to finally realise that what you believe in is fake? That's called coming to your senses and moving on toward what is real. Jesus may have been attributed those words in a book, but who cares? Why would i believe a message of peace and love from a god that needed a human sacrifice to attain it?? There are good people that can help you navigate out of this false belief you've convinced yourself of.

[@signposts6189]

​@damianabbate4423 How could you have been "a true born again believer" when what you believed in was "fake"?

[@damianabbate4423]

@@signposts6189 At the time i believed, it was very real. I didn't say it was fake while i was a believer. I can assure you, the minute you walk away from jesus, he won't be looking for you. The only power god and jesus have is the power that human believers give the idea. It's a mass delusion that continues because people can't let go of the idea of eternal life. The idea of a god gives people a false hope about the past, present and future.

[@9ja9ite]

Really amazing video Brandon. Your delivery is so impactful. I wish there was a way I could get your videos in front of some of my family. Believers are so self protecting that it’s nearly impossible to get them to sit down and watch a video from an atheist perspective.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thats very mind. Thanks so much and you’re telling me! The christians in my life refuse to engage

[@Mr.PeabodyTheSkeptic]

I lost my sh*t with the snark and the 'human Jesus'. Funny yet on point.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Ha! Thanks for watching!

[@rubenharo250]

So remarkable that you should upload this comparison. I HAD JUST THOUGHT OF IT A FEW WEEKS AGO, although I was just comparing the commandments to Corinthians!!! What a joy that you should explain it sooo eloquently. What a beautiful gift you have given us. I can now rest assured I am heading to my deconversion. I am clear that G*d does not exist, but I can sure admit LOVE is in the heart of every living creature because it is my EXPERIENCE. Thanks so much for your groundbreaking work, yes it is.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

So kind. Glad to help vocalize!

[@chadkndr]

Regarding your point on patience, that specific verse- Psalm 7:11. I feel the case could be made that this wouldn't necessarily contradict the supposed patience of god. He could theoretically be angry with the wicked everyday, while still being patient to not destroy them yet. (I feel like your second verse makes a stronger case though.) Just a thought I had, really enjoyed the rest of the video.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Yes i hear that. The second verse is much stronger. But also its more about showing a pattern. Its not the most damning verse. But just goes to show this god is angry, resentful, unkind etc. not love. Thousands more like it.

[@maggienewton8518]

wow! Terrific breakdown! Love the clear explanation that it only takes one example to dismantle a claim. Dishonour...so many examples of that, not honouring promises over and over.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thanks so much!

[@Chuck-se5hh]

Well said!!!!

[@richardmartin3910]

This is such a well researched video. Thank you!

[@MindShift-Brandon]

My pleasure. Thank you!

[@hyprlab]

This is a powerful one Brandon! The passion at the end of the video really comes through. Thank you for speaking the truth

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Always my pleasure. Thanks so much, Jason!

[@kettei7743]

Definetly gonna watch this one, always looking forwars to your presentations

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Many thanks

[@davidpebworth]

Thanks!

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thanks so much for this support!

[@gamertag7676]

If god is truly real im sure he'll be much more humble and beyond human emotion and personality, he'll be beyond the hate and ignorance that he's betrayed in the Bible as some man child with teen angst

[@therapheal_2278]

Thank you for this

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thanks for watching!