Does Kostas Sloukas Make PAO A Final Four Team?

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@easylife9603
@easylife9603 Жыл бұрын
Green brothers, as a Žalgiris fan I wish your team good luck in the next season! Go green power to the Final 4 Glory! 💚💚💚☘️☘️☘️
@giorgoals1329
@giorgoals1329 Жыл бұрын
Thank you my friend ☘️👍🏻👍🏻
@ΓεώργιοςΓεωργίου-θ9ι
@ΓεώργιοςΓεωργίου-θ9ι Жыл бұрын
Thanks brothers forever💚🤍
@GoatJames7K
@GoatJames7K Жыл бұрын
Best stadium in Europe and thanks for providing us with Saras!
@easylife9603
@easylife9603 Жыл бұрын
Greens forever! 💚☘️
@easylife9603
@easylife9603 Жыл бұрын
@@GoatJames7K Žalgirio arena?
@ofirhajaj
@ofirhajaj Жыл бұрын
Happy for PAO and PAO fans! good luck ! We need clubs with actual fan bases and tradition to succeed
@AugustasSuliauskas
@AugustasSuliauskas Жыл бұрын
For EuroLeague and European market in general, that's a great thing
@ersindemir6240
@ersindemir6240 6 ай бұрын
fast forward 11 months, pao both euroleague and greek league champions! what a run!
@TheUnknownNumber9
@TheUnknownNumber9 Жыл бұрын
Coach Ataman is a winner, Sloukas is a winner too. Pao needs a winner mentality which didn't have the last years. As a Greek basketball lover, I wish both our teams strenghten up.
@DeletedMemoriez
@DeletedMemoriez Жыл бұрын
ataman, with the best roster, didnt even finish 10th and lost to many weak teams like alba. He won it twice, what makes u think he is gonna do it again ?
@panosg.9689
@panosg.9689 Жыл бұрын
Panathinaikow mentality is a winning team....he has 6 wins in 7 final-4 FINALS.....UNBREAKABLE STILL....WE ARE BACK💚☘☘☘☘☘☘
@DeletedMemoriez
@DeletedMemoriez Жыл бұрын
@@panosg.9689 HAHAHAHAHHAHAH Same story every year for 12 years now
@stefkoutsoukos8039
@stefkoutsoukos8039 Жыл бұрын
​@@DeletedMemoriezomg nice mindset man. So with ur mindset ataman won 2 out of 3 and the 4th was cancelled due to covid. Why do u think he isnt gonna do it. The odds show that he will. Hahahha .
@stefkoutsoukos8039
@stefkoutsoukos8039 Жыл бұрын
​@@DeletedMemoriezthink if we were good how much more champs we could have. Like 3-4 in those 12 years. U must feel lucky.
@korki0117
@korki0117 Жыл бұрын
As a Panathinaikos fan I think that we definitely overpaid but pao at the start of the transfer window were forced essentially to overpay players because of their terrible last 3 seasons. But in general I am very happy with the transfers we have made so far
@panosg.9689
@panosg.9689 Жыл бұрын
it was a neccesery "evil"....with a good season you dont need to ovrprise players again...we are going for the final-4 cup in 2 years tops...remember the day i told u💚☘6⭐PANATHINAIKOS B.C.-GATE 13
@AugustasSuliauskas
@AugustasSuliauskas Жыл бұрын
Great point. I'm glad you people understand this and hopefully it doesn't get forgotten if things go the wrong way in the future. It was basically a must-thing to do in my eyes
@eyonky6234
@eyonky6234 Жыл бұрын
@@panosg.9689 Well, I remember the day you wrote this dont worry. I will be back for tease.
@georgestamatakis697
@georgestamatakis697 Жыл бұрын
Terrible last 11 seasons
@panosg.9689
@panosg.9689 Жыл бұрын
@@georgestamatakis697 YES....BUT AN EMPIRE IN EUROPE THE PREVIOUS 10 YEARS...NOW THE KING IS BACK!!!💚☘⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐☘
@Zvezdamoc
@Zvezdamoc 7 ай бұрын
Not only final four team but a championship team 😏
@pikosapikos13
@pikosapikos13 6 ай бұрын
He made us a Euroleague winning team! ☘️🌟7️⃣
@Chewmbacka
@Chewmbacka Жыл бұрын
As an Olympiakos fan, I am pessimistic about next year. We lost irreplaceable units and there are hardly any players with euroleague exp. The nba market can prove to be a huge risk. On the other hand I am looking forward to seeing how PAO will be put together and having them as strong opponents again at last.
@panosg.9689
@panosg.9689 Жыл бұрын
you might make a couple of american, greeks .again and u ll find solution...what can i say...pity for the nice basketball u played last year
@AugustasSuliauskas
@AugustasSuliauskas Жыл бұрын
It's really hard to replace Vezenkov and Sloukas. And with Olympiakos building their chemistry for the last 3 seasons, keeping more or less the same main players, just adding new rotation piece, that thing is also gone. So now 2-3 best players are going to be new and my concern is that those role players might not fit that well with the main guys. But that's only hypothetical, let's see who they get
@stefkoutsoukos8039
@stefkoutsoukos8039 Жыл бұрын
​@@AugustasSuliauskasi agree. Larentzakis lountzis and all the players tha are seen as b units must make the next step. If they play like this year oly must find near 40 points that he gonna miss this year with the departures
@thegate7factor913
@thegate7factor913 Жыл бұрын
​@@panosg.9689τιιτ σοκκ
@MegaBill1979
@MegaBill1979 Жыл бұрын
​​​​@@panosg.9689ou said that?In 2016 your junkie owner ordered the change of the regulation for 4 foreign players in every Greek team in 6 so he can buy more players because at the time the best Greek players were in Olympiakos You're a joke!
@adyton
@adyton Жыл бұрын
There are many basketball fans in Turkey like me who will watch Greek basketball league and Panathinaikos matches this year. Good luck!
@AugustasSuliauskas
@AugustasSuliauskas Жыл бұрын
Itoudis-Papaggianis-Fenerbahce story just made it even more appealing haha
@bodoor8172
@bodoor8172 Жыл бұрын
@@AugustasSuliauskasthere will be Itoudis-Ataman heat in Euroleague for sure.
@DioTkS
@DioTkS Жыл бұрын
Only time will tell!! Hope for the best!!
@DoctorGravity642
@DoctorGravity642 Жыл бұрын
"Sloukas - Lessort" reminds me a bit of "Diamantidis - Batiste" pick and roll. 😳😳😳
@AugustasSuliauskas
@AugustasSuliauskas Жыл бұрын
Good ol' days
@tt2318
@tt2318 Жыл бұрын
only if lessort use his ass to make screen
@humansareweird2866
@humansareweird2866 Жыл бұрын
Even Calathes-Gist was unstoppable tbh
@MegasSalavatis
@MegasSalavatis Жыл бұрын
That is almost offensive. Sloukas and Diamantidis should not even be in the same sentence. I just did it and I hate myself for it.
@DoctorGravity642
@DoctorGravity642 Жыл бұрын
@@MegasSalavatis I agree that Diamantidis was the best all around guard and Sloukas will never reach his legacy but that's why I said "it reminds me a bit". Sloukas-Lessort will never be on the same level with Diamantidis-Batise, but I see some potential in the new PAO roster and especially for the pick and roll plays.
@vulture4034
@vulture4034 Жыл бұрын
it's not only Sloukas who give on Panathinaikos the power to reach on F4. Panathinaikos is building a strong team with all around players, players like Vildoza, Grant are players who can either start as a starter, or come off the bench and provide offensive solutions. Furthermore, Papapetrou and Mitoglou, are tall and good defenders, they can cover some defensive gaps that might be created by Slouka and Vildoza on the perimeter, as they can drop down and play playmaker defense. Finally, Panathinaikos will hit with another good regional player in the 2-3 position and with a Hezonia-type player in the 4-3. We are waiting to see who these players will be although for the 4-3 position the name of Hejonia is being heard a lot who is an excellent player for this particular team as it is currently built. They are waiting to see what will happen with Papagiannis, who will probably stay.
@AugustasSuliauskas
@AugustasSuliauskas Жыл бұрын
uff Hezonja now would be a great addition for that main SF spot. I think he's happy in Madrid, but who knows
@GalaxyTracker
@GalaxyTracker Жыл бұрын
@@AugustasSuliauskas he has a contract with Madrid, indeed, but, the talk is that he is not happy there and Real may let him go. We'll see how it unfolds...
@nzikas13
@nzikas13 Жыл бұрын
Green giant has awaken 😎😎☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️
@konstantinoskm
@konstantinoskm Жыл бұрын
European Basketball needs its legendary team's...so its a great move no matter the cost
@georgestamatakis697
@georgestamatakis697 Жыл бұрын
You mean CSKA?
@Ali_C.
@Ali_C. Жыл бұрын
Kostas Sloukas is at least one half of a F4 ticket. This is the most promising Panathinaikos since Mr. Obradovic.
@AugustasSuliauskas
@AugustasSuliauskas Жыл бұрын
10 F4 appearances in 12 seasons is crazy
@Ali_C.
@Ali_C. Жыл бұрын
@@TheZG85 No doubt.
@innosanto
@innosanto Жыл бұрын
There was not much competition to say thus since after competition they were crap
@SouthernAth13
@SouthernAth13 Жыл бұрын
Guess whos back? The EMPEROR of European basketball ☘️☘️
@DeletedMemoriez
@DeletedMemoriez Жыл бұрын
u been saying that for 12 years😭
@nykterion7
@nykterion7 Жыл бұрын
Calm down..
@iDimitrisG7
@iDimitrisG7 Жыл бұрын
ανύπαρκτοι θα είστε πάλι
@johnnyxo98
@johnnyxo98 Жыл бұрын
Αυτα πες τα μόλις πραγματικά κάνεις κάτι σε παιχνίδια μην ζεις στην παράνοια χαλάρωσε
@emmanouilgoulidakis7712
@emmanouilgoulidakis7712 Жыл бұрын
@@johnnyxo98 Με τετοιον προεδρο, πως να μην εχουν γινει παρανοϊκοί
@konstantinosl6992
@konstantinosl6992 Жыл бұрын
I'm olympiacos but I must admit panathinaikos is definitely building an impressive team. On the other hand the CFO must be having nightmares (if there is one)
@RedDefender77
@RedDefender77 Жыл бұрын
Very impressive so far. Eurocup level team for sure.
@Mike-jo4cc
@Mike-jo4cc Жыл бұрын
@@RedDefender77 Eurocup? You mean Final Four you St@pid?
@DeletedMemoriez
@DeletedMemoriez Жыл бұрын
@@Mike-jo4cc bro said f4 😭
@AugustasSuliauskas
@AugustasSuliauskas Жыл бұрын
Those Greek derbies will be different than the last couple of years. Full of great battles
@DeletedMemoriez
@DeletedMemoriez Жыл бұрын
@@AugustasSuliauskas They are a brand new team though
@ArisHDi
@ArisHDi Жыл бұрын
PAO is back thats for sure.
@Dee-KV3
@Dee-KV3 Жыл бұрын
7th star.. Loading ☘️
@DeletedMemoriez
@DeletedMemoriez Жыл бұрын
u been saying that since 2012
@Dee-KV3
@Dee-KV3 Жыл бұрын
​@@DeletedMemoriezso what? Is it against the law or what?
@DeletedMemoriez
@DeletedMemoriez Жыл бұрын
@@Dee-KV3 Means that u cant win the euroleague after 12 years of having a horrible team in just one season that hasnt even started yet
@Dee-KV3
@Dee-KV3 Жыл бұрын
And how are you so sure about that? Do you have a mage crystal ball? You can't back up your sayings as I can't back up mine, I'm just expressing my optimism and you are expressing your hate
@DeletedMemoriez
@DeletedMemoriez Жыл бұрын
@@Dee-KV3 not expressing my hate. Ur comment legit makes no sense
@codingstyle9480
@codingstyle9480 Жыл бұрын
What is important is not whether Kostas is overpaid. I do not care if PAO has offered him a big contract which he might have not deserved. Probably that was due to local politics between Oly and PAO. PAO physiologically got over Oly and probably the PAO supporters are walking in the air now. What is more important here is if Ataman, with the help of Kostas, could setup a team like Anadolu Efes and become an F4 contender. With two more sright bricks placed in the right holes, why not!
@emmanouilgoulidakis7712
@emmanouilgoulidakis7712 Жыл бұрын
You will care that kostas is overpaid, when you realise that they will cut funds from other possible signings.
@karasxaker3671
@karasxaker3671 Жыл бұрын
@@emmanouilgoulidakis7712 we dont have financial problems.
@AugustasSuliauskas
@AugustasSuliauskas Жыл бұрын
Important is to get the fan base excited and to slowly build up the team again from the ground. A lot of teams will be contending for the PO next season but I definitely see Panathinaikos in it
@emmanouilgoulidakis7712
@emmanouilgoulidakis7712 Жыл бұрын
@@karasxaker3671 I don't buy the news about crazy offers to players, because even with 10 million they wouldn't sign for PAO. 4 million for Mirotic, 4 for Campazzo etc. I see only the real moves and signings. You bought 2 guards without any euroleague experience and you struggle to find a 3, a 4 and a center. Because the market is dead and because you only look for big names. That's the think. Players from the nba rarely make it in eurolegaue from season 1. Expecially in teams who are completely new.
@emmanouilgoulidakis7712
@emmanouilgoulidakis7712 Жыл бұрын
@@AugustasSuliauskas There are 10-11 conteders for the PO each year. All teams have luck. Who qualifies is decided by small details
@basedpatriotLT
@basedpatriotLT Жыл бұрын
how was sloukas not the main guy in OLY if he played exclusively in the 4th (and most important) quarter? Not sure if this buy could be considering wakening the oponent (oly can find better player for the amount they wanted to pay to sloukas)
@panathasgate13
@panathasgate13 Жыл бұрын
Great review. Panathinaikos is getting also 4 players more. So we ll waiting patiently..
@AugustasSuliauskas
@AugustasSuliauskas Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Kyle Guy is a great addition, surprised that Papaggianis left. Will be interesting to see which shooting big Ataman can find
@dimitriosdoulgeridis5367
@dimitriosdoulgeridis5367 Жыл бұрын
Pao needs Mario hejonia for the 3/4 position..he would fit like a glove and papapetrou and matzoukas would come perfectcly from the bench to support ! Then a powerful 5 and I d also like for Matt Thomas to stay but I don't think it will happen ... everybody in Greece is saying he is out . Soo probably Napier would be a good addition because he has that good 3 point percentage or to take a little risk ..bitim the young Turk of Turk telecom
@panosg.9689
@panosg.9689 Жыл бұрын
do you think that we r not going to buy a 2-3combo killer from the 3 points?4 transfers to close the roster...the 2 will be BIG!!!!if real leave Mario we ll take him in 5 minutes...or else a better one from NBA....DPG gone crazzy...love it...💚☘💥💥💥☘⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐☘
@panosg.9689
@panosg.9689 Жыл бұрын
we have a lot combo players and 4 players to come....in 10 games we r going to be ready and see some great basketball from PAO FC i think....
@Dee-KV3
@Dee-KV3 Жыл бұрын
G league is full of 6'6-6'8 players that can shoot, run and get rebounds, Real does not sell players.
@ΑπόλλωνΘηρευτής
@ΑπόλλωνΘηρευτής Жыл бұрын
We don't need the trophy for this year, but the championship in Greece and just beating the reds...
@AugustasSuliauskas
@AugustasSuliauskas Жыл бұрын
That would be a great start. Rarely do newly assembled teams win Euroleague in the first year together. Some continuity and maybe in 2-3 years PAO really are back to being main contenders for the title
@ironmm
@ironmm Жыл бұрын
EUR 2.7m net per year for 3-years for one of the top2 players of arguably the best performing team of last year (together contributed 58% of total points scored) can not be considered overpayment, especially when compared with the 3m that Thompson got from Efes (single high-performing EL season) and Exum was asking before going to the NBA (single high-performing EL season). Kostas will be 36 when the contract ends (not 37), and as you mentioned there are multiple benefits for PAO in this transfer, such as player's motivation to prove himself against his old coach (who's the main reason why he didn't renew with Olympiakos), leveraging Kostas ability on pick-n-roll (especially as he gets old and scoring will not be the main strength) with Lessort (new sign) and Papagiannis (potentially renewing), and making clear to agents that PAO project is serious. Among others, the transfer also solves issues with the number of local players in the domestic league, and lastly he would be the ideal mentor for the young generation of Greek players in the squad (Mantzoukas, Kostas Antetokounbo, Hugaz, Avdalas, Samodurov).
@tsoyrekis5546
@tsoyrekis5546 Жыл бұрын
3.3 not 2.7 , there is a 600k gap
@ironmm
@ironmm Жыл бұрын
@@tsoyrekis5546 Check your numbers on gross vs net basis
@tsoyrekis5546
@tsoyrekis5546 Жыл бұрын
@@ironmm most of the sources mention it exactly as i told you, the total transfer will cost 9,9m-10m and with the taxes and fees will get to 11-12m
@ironmm
@ironmm Жыл бұрын
@@tsoyrekis5546 interesting why my comments are deleted. anyway the most trusted paobc source (you know which) has reported 8m net.
@AugustasSuliauskas
@AugustasSuliauskas Жыл бұрын
If we take age out of this equation (and it could be that Sloukas at 36 is the same as right now at 33), then this money thing wouldn't even be discussed. Obviously, it's a possibility and people judge it based on that. However, 1 EL title in these 3 years and all of this money is forgotten in my eyes. Great points made by you - PAO are back and big names are starting to consider the team again
@cosmocitizen088
@cosmocitizen088 Жыл бұрын
alwways great content bravo guys
@AugustasSuliauskas
@AugustasSuliauskas Жыл бұрын
thanks a lot!
@georgepanathas2009
@georgepanathas2009 Жыл бұрын
Panathinaikos was always the legendary club with csska macabi real of course its the final four of all times these teams
@Dee-KV3
@Dee-KV3 Жыл бұрын
It's none of my concern how much Giannakopoulos payed for Sloukas or anyone in particular, I'm happy though he payed enough to sign Kostas and the rest of the guys, along with coach Ataman of course
@iwasLag
@iwasLag Жыл бұрын
losing streak of PAO against OLY is 14 games not 13 and 16-1 in the last 3 or so years
@jasonkaradimos6383
@jasonkaradimos6383 Жыл бұрын
False. The streak was been going on for 1,5 years not 3. Pana won in the end of 2021 at sef with an incredible game of nemanja nedovic.
@Mike-jo4cc
@Mike-jo4cc Жыл бұрын
Did you manage to level Alvertis for Greek Championship or net yet? Final Four loosers
@SantoooD
@SantoooD Жыл бұрын
Do you think hezonnja would be a great addition to the team?
@AugustasSuliauskas
@AugustasSuliauskas Жыл бұрын
Yes I do. Star'caliber player in the Euroleague, great size for SF position, can shoot, can post-up smaller guys, can play multiple positions. I'm hearing about Shengelia at the PF, wouldn't understand his fit in PAO
@kostasl5927
@kostasl5927 Жыл бұрын
2:08 14* games
@ΔιονύσηςΚαπέλιος
@ΔιονύσηςΚαπέλιος Жыл бұрын
its an overpaid for sloukas but you did not mention one think, dimitris giannakopoulos does all this to destroy olumpiakos and dimitris does not care about how much money he will pay. he wants also to win euroleague in max 3 years(this is why all players have 3 year contract). NICE VIDEO!!!
@panosg.9689
@panosg.9689 Жыл бұрын
GOT SCARED?WE ARE BACK....💚☘6⭐🔥🔥🔥
@ΔιονύσηςΚαπέλιος
@ΔιονύσηςΚαπέλιος Жыл бұрын
@@panosg.9689 ετσιιιι💪💪
@AugustasSuliauskas
@AugustasSuliauskas Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I mentioned that maybe one of the things why he signed Sloukas is to make Olympiakos weaker at the same time
@ΔιονύσηςΚαπέλιος
@ΔιονύσηςΚαπέλιος Жыл бұрын
@@AugustasSuliauskas he was already left. if dimitris will sign dorsey olympiacos will be weaker or calathes
@gustesuliauskaite3235
@gustesuliauskaite3235 Жыл бұрын
*Ataman’s fists in the air*
@strahinjapesic6009
@strahinjapesic6009 Жыл бұрын
See you in a week making a new video about Partizan. Core of the team will be Punter, Leday, Mirotic. PG position will detonate huge bomb, probably Dragic, but don't sleep on Dante returning to Partizan as he didn't sign with Mavs yet and he is free player from 6th july. Also, Partizan will sign starting C until the end of july, with Smailagic beeing backup (or even starter). Smailagic is the ONLY stretch 5 in the Euroleague so it gives team a lot of versatility. With Zeljko on the bench, I wouldn't be surprised if Partizan makes it to F4
@AugustasSuliauskas
@AugustasSuliauskas Жыл бұрын
Waiting for Mirotic to Partizan to become official!
@ΓιάννηςΜαραβέλιας-ψ8υ
@ΓιάννηςΜαραβέλιας-ψ8υ Жыл бұрын
@basketnews if PAO signs a SF and a PF, with Papapetrou and Mitoglou also on the roster, there will be no room for growth for the young talent Mantzoukas. How would you manage this problem?
@AugustasSuliauskas
@AugustasSuliauskas Жыл бұрын
Euroleague teams rarely finds space for young talents to grow. Mantzoukas is promising, but I doubt PAO finds him considerable minutes with the only goal of winning now
@ΘοδωρήςΤασιούλης
@ΘοδωρήςΤασιούλης Жыл бұрын
Giannakopoulos said that Panathinaikos will buy 4 new players
@chocovinniecairo
@chocovinniecairo Жыл бұрын
I like it its good for basketball greece that once was one of the best leagues of europe... panathinaikos need a stronger bench and a extra spot up shooter(one shot one kill). Extra defensieve (rebounding) player.
@panosg.9689
@panosg.9689 Жыл бұрын
PANATHINAIKOS FC my friend was the biggest empire since 1988...final-4 times....6 trophies and WE RE BACK...greetings from Gate 13...lol
@clayvishal6847
@clayvishal6847 Жыл бұрын
Good video, great analysis, u got an eye bro:) Sloukas defo overpaid but HAD to, for all the various reasons u mention, not strictly pitch related. So Pao is defo going for spot 3p shooters now on. SG and PF to be acquired must have that, and they will (according to sources). Mantzoukas is the best spot up shooter in the team atm, so for me SF is covered with him and Papapetrou. U cant make a team roll without hustling role players, so i wouldnt go for Hezonja, he needs the ball and is another star player. Papagiannis probably signing as well so u can also play pick n pop. I d add Danny Green and some stretch-4 (just read about Samanic) and u re a final-4 team, man:)
@clayvishal6847
@clayvishal6847 Жыл бұрын
@AugustasSuliauskas what do you think?
@AugustasSuliauskas
@AugustasSuliauskas Жыл бұрын
Surprisingly, Papaggianis is out and there is an empty spot for a center. Preferrably, someone who could stretch the floor. Mantzoukas has a lot of talent and I agree with you, but it's hard to imagine a youngster and Papapetrou covering that position if PAO owner really thinks about contending for the title immediately. I think starting SF is needed but Mantzoukas should definitely get some minutes during the season to grow. Love the Kyle Guy addition, even better than Matt Thomas in my eyes, since he can play with the ball and has more upside to grow as a player in short term
@TheZG85
@TheZG85 Жыл бұрын
if they coud just add. Mr. Obradović again...
@vasilisantonopoulos9326
@vasilisantonopoulos9326 Жыл бұрын
It depends on which players they will sign next, cause so far the only players with actual F4 experience are Sloukas and Papapetrou from back in his days in Olympiacos bench. Thus it is a bit of overstretch to raise them from second to last to first four with just those players and Ataman. Sloukas was a huge negative in both of the last two F4s for Olympiacos , with the team being + 25 with Monaco in the semi and +14 with Real in the final when he was on the bench. Obviously the market dictates a player"s value and he had other big offers but I personally thought that given this fact, his age, his defense and his size that even Olympiacos offer was overpaying.
@panosg.9689
@panosg.9689 Жыл бұрын
and ATAMAN with 2(3) final 4 WINS IN A ROW...💚☘6⭐☘
@stefkoutsoukos8039
@stefkoutsoukos8039 Жыл бұрын
Answer me this simple question. Walkup has 2 years of final 4 experience. Do u remember his stats for those 2 years? Hope u not cause he was terrible. So the actual f4 experience is something very good but not something u could grab from it and feel relaxed if u know what I mean
@vasilisantonopoulos9326
@vasilisantonopoulos9326 Жыл бұрын
@@stefkoutsoukos8039 ​ @stefkoutsoukos8039 If you are talking about his shooting stats he was terrible ( Sloukas btw was terrible too), however his overall stats and especially the team stats while he was playing were more than excellent ( which is not the case for Sloukas). Other than Jordan there is no other constant in basketball that you can grab on to guarantee success. You settle for a sum of good things and hope. When you want to get better it is good to get better players, when you want to make the playoffs it is good to get players that made it, same with F4 same with the title. Pao is very far away from F4 conversations the realistic questions are they playoff candidates or rather are they actually better than last year? If you put down last year"s roster and this year"s so far you see that there could be a debate even for that..
@stefkoutsoukos8039
@stefkoutsoukos8039 Жыл бұрын
@@vasilisantonopoulos9326In this years final walkup had 3 pir and +4 when he was on the floor. Sloukas in the same game had 6 pir and (-10) when he was on the floor and he was not good. In the semifinal walkup had 8 pir and (+19) while sloukas 11 pir and (-5). Last years semifinal walkup had 8 pir and (-12) while sloukas had 14 pir and (+6). My point? Experience plays a big role for final 4 and sloukas has it (im not gonna search he previous 7 apperances i think sloukas has in final 4s) While pir shows the performance of a player +/- shows the points his team is in front or behind. Sloukas as u say plays for ur b unit. He comes in as a substitute so his +/- is affected by his teammates like laretzakis that play with him at the same time or perhaps bolomboi. But experience is not the only ingredient for success. Walkup before oly had never played in final four and he turns 31 in december. As for panathinaikos. Nobody says we gonna play in next years final four. We should aim for at least 10position and above for the play in tournament (or 6 and above for playoffs) and when we are in we gonna see what we are capable of or what do we need extra for the next step.
@vasilisantonopoulos9326
@vasilisantonopoulos9326 Жыл бұрын
@@stefkoutsoukos8039 My friend this is exactly what I am saying. The question was about Pao"s F4 chances after Sloukas transfer and my point was that it is too far fetched with the current roster and the realistic expectations is to be better than last year. Cause if you see the moves one by one you can"t say that with certainty. They got a much better but at the same time very special coach who is not famous for his hard work, while Radonic came as defense specialist and we all saw how that worked out. Sloukas replaces Lee and even though it is a massive upgrade, Lee"s defense is going to be massively missed. Vildoza came possibly for Grigonis so you need to remember that the Lithuanian came with almost the same hype. Mitoglou has two years out and I don"t think that even in his hey days he will reach the quality of Derrick. The same and more can be said about Papapetrou for Bacon or Ponitka take your pick, especially considering that it is two of them. Kostas is excellent but I don"t think he comes close to Gudaitis. Lessort is definitely an upgrade if Papagianis stays cause compared to him, I am not so sure as they both have one good year with one second team selection. If Moraitis is better than either Kalaitzakis, remains to be seen cause I like all of them, but none of them is actually a real factor in a Euroleague team. I am not trying to ditch Pao"s moves on the contrary they are great especially for the Greek league, where Olympiacos is weakened and depleted of Greek players, however I think that for Euroleague the expectations should be more grounded, given the past, and also the fact that having an expensive roster good on paper guarantees you very little and the current one in paper is not that much better than what last year"s one looked like. And as shown by Efes this year no matter how much you pay guarantees you anything, and possibly the only team that can start the year with F4 expectations is Real Madrid and even they were one Yabusele punch away from the F4.
@Σάκης-Κάπα
@Σάκης-Κάπα Жыл бұрын
Ataman Sloukas 3 years ☘️.... Coming soon 👉7️⃣🌟
@lkscout
@lkscout Жыл бұрын
Rokas Giedraitis would be a very good option for Panathinaikos.
@AugustasSuliauskas
@AugustasSuliauskas Жыл бұрын
(I know he already signed with Zvezda, but) I like his shooting but would love more physicality and defense at the starting SF spot. With Sloukas and Vildoza you need someone who could cover holes in defense and be physical.
@clarkkent6798
@clarkkent6798 Жыл бұрын
Nice additions on Pao, finally there is actually someone to play against. Its weird to me thought that there are so many fans of my team that think that Olynpiacos is not going to be good anymore. I think, even with the two guys leaving, we will still be the best team and we will win at the final this time. -
@johnagri5676
@johnagri5676 Жыл бұрын
Panathinaikos fan here! Yes we overpaid Sloukas but 1st is the best Greek PG right now and 2nd we gonna overpaid almost for all the players we gonna get this year. And if we can reach at least on Play offs we will be ok because the recent year of the team were hard! I dont think we can go to F4 this year but the next one.
@AugustasSuliauskas
@AugustasSuliauskas Жыл бұрын
It's definitely hard reaching playoffs the 1st year but let's see the remaining 3 additions. I wanted Matt Thomas to be back but Kyle Guy is an even greater signing in my eyes. Has more upside to grow as a player
@panosntaragiannis9689
@panosntaragiannis9689 Жыл бұрын
Certainly overpaid,but was obliged to do something like this, as he wants to attract a serious number of season-tickets after 2-3 bad seasons.Dont forget that he is rulling now the OAKA and he needed an impresive and at the same time lucrative move.
@AugustasSuliauskas
@AugustasSuliauskas Жыл бұрын
I think the salary is more connected to the fact that Sloukas had to really consider the amount of hate he is going to receive, thus a bigger financial incentive might have made the decision easier to move to PAO. Also, the belief from PAO fans is back and it's great thing financially for the club as well
@kickordie7088
@kickordie7088 Жыл бұрын
Our president said today that we will have 4 more transfers
@gloup81
@gloup81 Жыл бұрын
Panathinaikos as it is now, will be a contestand for the play-offs.
@basedpatriotLT
@basedpatriotLT Жыл бұрын
how do you mean as it is now? You mean if the did not complete the roster? Why even talk about that if we know that they will add more players?
@athanasiosntampakis502
@athanasiosntampakis502 Жыл бұрын
people don’t get that you have to overpay if you want to rebuild
@AsMinor1977
@AsMinor1977 Жыл бұрын
When Pao gives 1.3 mil more than Olympiakos per year it's right to give kudos to his president not Ataman convincing methods. Olympiakos lost a great player but a liability for his defence. Next year he's only getting better.
@DmsDCK
@DmsDCK Жыл бұрын
Where is the D though
@tasarasable
@tasarasable Жыл бұрын
in theory everything sounds valid but there is much more in Basketball.
@AugustasSuliauskas
@AugustasSuliauskas Жыл бұрын
of course. only the court can tell us if it's gonna work out
@mambamentality249
@mambamentality249 Жыл бұрын
No single player makes a team a contender
@ergindemir7366
@ergindemir7366 Жыл бұрын
That fee is ridiculous.
@נחברמן
@נחברמן Жыл бұрын
why you telling the world about colson? HE IS NOT FOR SALE!!!
@ΠάνοςΓιαννάκης-τ8λ
@ΠάνοςΓιαννάκης-τ8λ Жыл бұрын
And so 2 weeks later Panathinaikos sings Hernagomez! What about this?
@dimkoyts
@dimkoyts Жыл бұрын
Remember my words….. Family>money
@--Kresnik85
@--Kresnik85 Жыл бұрын
slou's vanity is time ... on court ... being 33 and playing 30+ min ... has its toll on the foot ... Fener almost stopped him , if it was not for walkup and lari ... shinny transfer ... but it is not putting the team in F4 ... as said in report both slou and vildo lack a bit in defense , which is true ... Pap will be used a buffer coming from bench with Grant ... Li should not have left ... also Matt Thomas .... and if Papagiannis leave ... u need another greek native ... tall on 5 position coming from bench ... and there are not a lot of Greek position 5 tall guys anymore left in the market ...
@AntonisPapadopoulos-sp7bx
@AntonisPapadopoulos-sp7bx Жыл бұрын
We don't need a greek native in 5 position if papagiannis leaves we already are antetokounmpo as 3rd center. If he leaves we ll sign a foreigner. Also sloukas is not going to play 30+ minutes for sure. Probably like 25 minutes
@tehfox4812
@tehfox4812 Жыл бұрын
We already have 6 with papapetrou,if kalaitzakis stays thats 7. Only person we should have definitely kept is ponitka,we need a sf and a tall foreign center and we're probably fine with the roster
@--Kresnik85
@--Kresnik85 Жыл бұрын
Thing is Ante junior is a ... what they call in NBA strech 4 not actual 3 ... he would play in 3 if Pontika had stayed (which he did not ) in that case ... what might happen if Mito ... after ofc 2y of staying outside regains like in best scenario ... 3-4 months his form at an avg rate of 6.7 -7.2 , that translates in 17-22 PIR based in time he plays ... then u might see what u claim . in 3 Ante Junior with Mito in 4 currently ... Pap in 3 ... 4 transfer .... as is but even Pap will not be a starter ... he could not follow up in Partizan ... and Nunaly called him out ... and lost his place ... and plus in Partizan that role was partially covered by Danilo Andjusic ... also ... as a strech 4 although ... 3 combo .. so yeah pretty much ...
@Amalrik77
@Amalrik77 Жыл бұрын
Thomas has already been released from PAO
@djgouv
@djgouv Жыл бұрын
Pao fans will finally see some pick’n rolls after calathes left😅😅.Go green family☘️☘️
@anxhopanxho1399
@anxhopanxho1399 Жыл бұрын
They will be at final 4 places of 18
@VasilisLefki-tc8om
@VasilisLefki-tc8om Жыл бұрын
The king of Europe,is back!!! Panathinaikos!!;
@ogvamp
@ogvamp Жыл бұрын
Only Obra can make PAO a final four team
@codingstyle9480
@codingstyle9480 Жыл бұрын
Get over that Obra hype. He could not even get Partizan to F4 from 2-0. His team lost 3 games in succession.
@djakela4124
@djakela4124 Жыл бұрын
​@@codingstyle9480without two best players and shorter roster. If they didn't get suspended we would win Euroleauge
@alexandros7597
@alexandros7597 Жыл бұрын
​@@codingstyle9480 are u serious!? What are u talking about!? He brought the so far in the first Year, with so many youbg Talents, and they played the best Basketball with Oly last Year !!!? Dafuck was u watching!? PingPong!? Dont you know why and how theyve lost it!?!?!? 🙆🤦
@DeletedMemoriez
@DeletedMemoriez Жыл бұрын
@@djakela4124 i dont know if u would win the euroleague but u would definitely be in the final
@djakela4124
@djakela4124 Жыл бұрын
@@DeletedMemoriez they already demolished oly
@1on1z3d
@1on1z3d Жыл бұрын
The Greek backbone that all the PAO fans are praising is not something new or impressive. Essentially, if Papagiannis stays its gonna be the exact same greek backbone PAO had in 2018 which has never reached F4 or even the playoffs lately. The addition of Sloukas and Vildoza is certainly an upgrade but they come nowhere near the Micic-Larkin duo. I think we won't be seeing such a duo anytime soon in Europe anyway. Even Monaco's James, Lloyd, Okobo experiment failed in the end.
@AugustasSuliauskas
@AugustasSuliauskas Жыл бұрын
Monaco had one big issue - shooting in the PF position. It's not like that guard trio wasn't dominant. Maybe not at the levels of Micic-Larkin but close. But those two always had 2 more shooters on the court with them.
@1on1z3d
@1on1z3d Жыл бұрын
​@@AugustasSuliauskas my point is that pao fans have to calm down a little bit because pride and arrogance is the worst perk when you haven't proved a single thing. Their newly assemblied team isn't even completed yet and you see them all over social already lifting the 2024 euroleague trophy in the air 😅😂🙃
@AugustasSuliauskas
@AugustasSuliauskas Жыл бұрын
@@1on1z3d Haha. Of course, all could go very wrong as only the court can tell. The chemistry, the fit together, and obviously, the last pieces will be as important as the main ones
@hoopseditz108
@hoopseditz108 Жыл бұрын
Love y'all videos subd can i have the jokić jersey
@_DNA.
@_DNA. Жыл бұрын
Sloukas will be the last nail in the coffin of panathinaikos,unfortunately this player will destroy the team.
@ersindemir6240
@ersindemir6240 6 ай бұрын
such an accurate foresight 😂
@_DNA.
@_DNA. 6 ай бұрын
@@ersindemir6240 is it over?
@ersindemir6240
@ersindemir6240 6 ай бұрын
@@_DNA. I mean they won the Euroleague with Kostas being the MVP, then they also became the champions of Greece with an amazing comeback, Kostas playing excellent again😁
@_DNA.
@_DNA. 6 ай бұрын
@@ersindemir6240 He has a 3 year contract,nobody denies Sloukas is a great player but in the first inconvenience he will destroy PAO.
@ersindemir6240
@ersindemir6240 6 ай бұрын
@@_DNA. from 17th place to euroleague and greek champions with mpv performances. How will he destroy PAO specifically?
@RedDefender77
@RedDefender77 Жыл бұрын
The wannabe Spanoulis who will never become anything of such magnitude. Bartzokas didn't want him and set him free. Also Sloukas has a complex and he couldn't stand being present at the upcoming ceremony of Vasilis Spanoulis in September. Very dishonest player, had agreed with pao before the end of the greek finals and pretended to be sick during the 2nd game, to give a chance to pao to break the streak (14-0 at the time) The streak was stopped because the refs as you remembered sent Walkup out with 2 technical faouls out of their ass. Later Vezenkov got injured and didn't finish that game. With all that, Mckissic lost the last shot and lost the game too. Could have won without them, but it was a night from the good old days when pao had the refs in their pocket. The 27-2, 3rd quarter against Monaco, a thing of beauty, happened with him on the bench. I only wish he hadn't taken the last shot in the final.
@giorgosglou86
@giorgosglou86 Жыл бұрын
another flag for olympiakos team at their stadium:"we made 27-2 run against monaco".why not
@RedDefender77
@RedDefender77 Жыл бұрын
Another flag? Apart from being basketball idiots, you don't know English too. Sloucash go take their money, yo!!!
@DeletedMemoriez
@DeletedMemoriez Жыл бұрын
@@RedDefender77 "you dont know english too" Yeah, take some grammar lessons please
@DeletedMemoriez
@DeletedMemoriez Жыл бұрын
@@giorgosglou86 Another flag for poa team in okana : We destroyed our stadium to avoid getting humiliated by a 50 point loss from our eternal nightmare
@ToxicL9emoN
@ToxicL9emoN Жыл бұрын
It's over Anakin. I have the high ground
@antonis_b
@antonis_b Жыл бұрын
Final Four maybe. Final eight for sure.
@panayiotisim
@panayiotisim Жыл бұрын
SLOUCASH
@TheZG85
@TheZG85 Жыл бұрын
No. Kostas Sloukas does not make PAO a Final 4 team. The man who makes PAO a Final 4 team again is Željko Obradović. It's that simple.
@karasxaker3671
@karasxaker3671 6 ай бұрын
hahahaha
@MegasSalavatis
@MegasSalavatis Жыл бұрын
I never trully liked Sloukas in Olympiakos. I consider him overrated. Olympiakos was hungry for a new greek superstar and wished that Sloukas could finally evolve into that at some point. Olympiakos and the greek national team is still waiting for him (and sadly Pappas, which was the biggest talent of that team) to reach their full potential as envisioned in their U20 gold medal team in 2009. However, he never did evolve. Average and unreliable shooter, too much dribbling when holding the ball, too stagnant without the ball, and a huge liability on defence. I felt that he played more minutes than he deserved this year and it seemes he thinks he should play longer. The true star of Olympiakos was Coach Bartzokas and as long as they have him, they will be fine. No one thought Olympiakos would play so well the past 2 years or that Vezenkov would be MVP material when he left Barcelona.
@drabalisallat2188
@drabalisallat2188 Жыл бұрын
Lessort is more than good, but like in those clips he has tunnel vision.
@stri2003
@stri2003 Жыл бұрын
PAO overpaid fpr Sloukas! If they do not make the playoffs they will be financially finished!
@jmatoo98
@jmatoo98 Жыл бұрын
Panathinaikos is the king of european basketball and will domain again his throne!
@AntonisPapadopoulos-sp7bx
@AntonisPapadopoulos-sp7bx Жыл бұрын
They give like 0 money if you get to the play offs. You think our financial status depends on that?
@DeletedMemoriez
@DeletedMemoriez Жыл бұрын
@@jmatoo98 12 years without a f4
@jmatoo98
@jmatoo98 Жыл бұрын
@@DeletedMemoriez Real madrid the team with the most Euroleague trophies waited 19 years to regain the throne! PAO BC THE KING AND REAL MADRID THE QUEEN OF EU BASKETBALL.....
@gloup81
@gloup81 Жыл бұрын
@@jmatoo98 No king with 16-1 loss streak, and 28 at 28' and broken official desks to avoid the ultimate humiliation. PAO is at best the clown of Euroleague.
@poly830
@poly830 Жыл бұрын
Panathinaikos, Real Madrid biggest clubs in Europe.
@DeletedMemoriez
@DeletedMemoriez Жыл бұрын
cska left the chat
@codingstyle9480
@codingstyle9480 Жыл бұрын
Put Efes and CSKA there also.
@constantine_78
@constantine_78 Жыл бұрын
Not so easy...
@nicksotiropoulos1469
@nicksotiropoulos1469 Жыл бұрын
the most expensive 2nd unit player in euroleague...
@AugustasSuliauskas
@AugustasSuliauskas Жыл бұрын
we all know he was the one closing games for Olympiakos, it was only a choice of Bartzokas to play him that way (which wasn't a bad choice in itself). only maybe the flexibility to mix it up a bit was missing, but that's only my opinion
@josephstalin331
@josephstalin331 Жыл бұрын
Last time POA went to the F4, 60% of their fans weren't even born
@TheVaggos013
@TheVaggos013 Жыл бұрын
VERY FUNNY NOW GO TO GULAG
@HellenicPride71
@HellenicPride71 Жыл бұрын
If we're 10 years old.
@jimvrs5244
@jimvrs5244 Жыл бұрын
I have six euroleague titles.. you?😉
@ΝΙΚΕΛ-θ9κ
@ΝΙΚΕΛ-θ9κ Жыл бұрын
Hell nahhh😂
@nickvanr.8584
@nickvanr.8584 Жыл бұрын
As a pao fan I don't like sloukas. He. Is not a leader like diamantidis or sarunas.
@codingstyle9480
@codingstyle9480 Жыл бұрын
Tell me if any player like them exists in Europe anywhere. You should be content with what you have currently who could mimic the best of the past.
@cookie-dq6zj
@cookie-dq6zj Жыл бұрын
Απιστευτη λογικη.Μαλλον προτιμας Μποχωριδη εσυ
@kostasmd4666
@kostasmd4666 Жыл бұрын
PAO wants Hezonja for SF-PF and two more guards. Napier/Dorsey and one that can play at SG-SF The last player that they will sign will be a Center. They wait for Papagiannis response or someone else
@AugustasSuliauskas
@AugustasSuliauskas Жыл бұрын
Hezonja would be great. And if they get Napier on top of that, sheeeeeesh
@kostasmd4666
@kostasmd4666 Жыл бұрын
@@AugustasSuliauskas Unfortunately it’s extremely difficult for Mario because he has one more year with Real. He wants to come to Pana for sure, this week is critical. However if not this year he will come 1000% next year.
@dejan9
@dejan9 Жыл бұрын
They wont make f4 this season probably and they definetly wont win el . Maybe next season but probably not
@filipmaric5951
@filipmaric5951 Жыл бұрын
Ofc not. You may hate me PAO fans now but lets be realistic. They gor vildoza who played insane for 2 months for red star and then was rly bad rest of season not just in eurolwague but also aba league. Lessort is insane and i wont argue with that Papapetrou is solid but nothing special, played 5 to 7 mins for partizan per game Sloukas is good but overhyped and overpayed. We will see. Imo of they reach playoffs its good , wouldnr be surprised if they ended up 9 to 13 place
@AntonisPapadopoulos-sp7bx
@AntonisPapadopoulos-sp7bx Жыл бұрын
We haven't finished our signings yet. We ll be for sure in playoffs no doubt
@iDimitrisG7
@iDimitrisG7 Жыл бұрын
@@AntonisPapadopoulos-sp7bxμε παπαπετρου και μητογλου;; Αχαχαχαχαχα
@1on1z3d
@1on1z3d Жыл бұрын
@@AntonisPapadopoulos-sp7bx Why no doubt? You can't "buy" your entrance in the F4 or playoffs no matter how many millions you spend and the examples of clubs with scary budgets that failed to produce a cohesive team in the end are numerous. Olimpia Milano last year had a budget of 30millions and until now that we speak they haven't managed to make a TEAM. It's not even August and you PAO fans already speaking of finals and trophies 😅🤣🙃
@diamadid1s
@diamadid1s Жыл бұрын
@@1on1z3d There is not a chance of not attending play offs you ll see...20000 fans in every home game will push it, Panathinaikos is not Milano or Monaco or Efes.
@DeletedMemoriez
@DeletedMemoriez Жыл бұрын
@@diamadid1s Thats not how it works . 3 loses and most of yall will not support the team for the rest of the year hahaha
@LuisSuarez14690
@LuisSuarez14690 Жыл бұрын
Just Nemesis to the anti basketball club
@trpap2685
@trpap2685 Жыл бұрын
Which is exactly the anti basketball?
@LuisSuarez14690
@LuisSuarez14690 Жыл бұрын
@@trpap2685 olympiakos fans watch basketball because of the rivalry It is only the last three years that they started to create a basketball fan base. They have always been football fans who watched or attended because we were there and we were successful PAO and Aris fans love basketball in Greece only.
@petedo6532
@petedo6532 Жыл бұрын
Sloukas is a very overrated player. He doesn't deserve 2.7m per year. Last year at Olympiakos he was my black sheep. I'm Olympiakos-Fan and I'm happy that he left the club after a bad season. As i said a very overrated player.
@TheAnswer_13
@TheAnswer_13 Жыл бұрын
You're an Olympiakos fan, so that means that your opinion is not objective and thus it cannot be taken seriously.
@ersindemir6240
@ersindemir6240 6 ай бұрын
ahahahahahahahahahah 😂
@ΘανάσηςΜπούζας
@ΘανάσηςΜπούζας Жыл бұрын
Of course not ... sloukas playing 30 minutes will be injuries disaster
@Gerschy
@Gerschy Жыл бұрын
No
@rapramix
@rapramix Жыл бұрын
A traitor .
@LESOPARTALO
@LESOPARTALO Жыл бұрын
Bankruptcy
@TheAnswer_13
@TheAnswer_13 Жыл бұрын
You wish
@LESOPARTALO
@LESOPARTALO Жыл бұрын
@@TheAnswer_13 we'll see
@Mauros-Lykos
@Mauros-Lykos Жыл бұрын
Turk will not stay 4 long…
@grpppa6081
@grpppa6081 Жыл бұрын
Οf course not
@romanreigns5926
@romanreigns5926 Жыл бұрын
Υes but pao needs two good scorers
@ouaman6733
@ouaman6733 Жыл бұрын
Definately PAO funs are overexcited to sign just a single Olympiakos player...! It is their honor...
@TheAnswer_13
@TheAnswer_13 Жыл бұрын
Olympiakos is nowhere near the size of Panathinaikos in basketball. Panathinaikos' basketball fans know when to be excited and when not.
@e.k.5941
@e.k.5941 Жыл бұрын
GOT player of panathinaikos in history was definitely one. Vasilakopoulos. He manipulate his way all Greek referees... to support 100% panathinaikos even in friendly games.
@djakela4124
@djakela4124 Жыл бұрын
They have a way to much money but no chemestry. I would say with all respect partizan is still better than then even with way smaller budget.
@karasxaker3671
@karasxaker3671 Жыл бұрын
How is Partizan better than PAO next year?How u can say that when they lose 2 of the best players (Lessort,Exum) and not key signings to replace them yet?
@DeletedMemoriez
@DeletedMemoriez Жыл бұрын
@@karasxaker3671 better coach
@karasxaker3671
@karasxaker3671 Жыл бұрын
@@DeletedMemoriez ataman is the best coach last 5 years.
@DeletedMemoriez
@DeletedMemoriez Жыл бұрын
@@karasxaker3671 hahahahaha okay
@djakela4124
@djakela4124 Жыл бұрын
​@@karasxaker3671you didn't look at more important thing,chemistry
@Gnctheripper
@Gnctheripper Жыл бұрын
kostaki bine
@DeletedMemoriez
@DeletedMemoriez Жыл бұрын
With the difference that larkin and micic were 10x better than vildoza and sloykas
@pixytorres7117
@pixytorres7117 Жыл бұрын
Larkin and micic are overated, they can't play defense. Also without Ataman they're nothing.
@DeletedMemoriez
@DeletedMemoriez Жыл бұрын
@@pixytorres7117 Better defense than sloukas n vildoza
@DeletedMemoriez
@DeletedMemoriez Жыл бұрын
@@1313-t8i Yes they were lmao take a look at micic stats before efes Sure he did improve but thats normal when u give a player more time. Sloukas is 34 and if u let him play more than the duration he had with oly he will have many injuries and wont perform as well
@emmanouilgoulidakis7712
@emmanouilgoulidakis7712 Жыл бұрын
With the difference that Efes had 8-10 great foreign players and PAO will try to be competitive with a solid lineup plus mediocre greek players like Kostas Antotokoumpo, Papapetrou and Mitoglou after doping suspension
@pixytorres7117
@pixytorres7117 Жыл бұрын
@@DeletedMemoriez not really. Larkin and Micic are in really bad condition right now. Sloukas on the other hand is playing better than them, plus he's a Greek so it's better to have more Greek players than foreigners. Olympiacos is so desperate they try to make Americans get the Greek passport just so they can have more Greeks in their roster because Pana has taken most of them.
@SouthSide1312.
@SouthSide1312. Жыл бұрын
No he doesn't
@RedDefender77
@RedDefender77 Жыл бұрын
Νot in the slightest. 10th place maybe. 33y, can't play defense and extremely overrated and overpaid (nice score on that).
@TheAnswer_13
@TheAnswer_13 Жыл бұрын
Sloukas is not the only signing...
@RedDefender77
@RedDefender77 Жыл бұрын
@@TheAnswer_13 You can't buy so many players and expect to become a F4 right away. Building a team takes time. But media propaganda makes you dream. As an Olympiacos supporter I think it's difficult to reach F4 again, even though the team is already in place. Putting a new team together and expecting to be in the F4 so soon is a fantasy.
@TheAnswer_13
@TheAnswer_13 Жыл бұрын
@@RedDefender77 Did I say anything about final4?? I was just responding to your comment saying "10th place maybe".
@RedDefender77
@RedDefender77 Жыл бұрын
@@TheAnswer_13 Είπες δεν είναι η μόνη προσθήκη σε βίντεο που ρωτάει αν ο σλούκας θα κάνει τον παο ομάδα Φ4. Εγώ είπα όχι και εσύ υπονόησες ότι θα γίνουν κι άλλες κινήσεις και επομένως ο παο θα γίνει ομάδα Φ4. Άσε το αγγλικό, μας κούρασες.
@smitsos765
@smitsos765 Жыл бұрын
Of course .....NO THEY CAN'T.
@Bill788
@Bill788 Жыл бұрын
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