Does Kyrie Irving or Luka Dončić need a Finals appearance more? | NBA | SPEAK

Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, LeSean McCoy and James Jones debate whether Kyrie Irving or Luka Dončić needs an NBA Finals appearance more.
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Does Kyrie Irving or Luka Dončić need a Finals appearance more? | NBA | SPEAK
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[@gobindhehar]

Kyrie was never a cancer, its about time the media stops putting that narrative out there

[@M4rc877]

The media is the cancer... as usual!

[@TaiLePhan]

Nets and Boston he was

[@kobebryant76t92]

@@TaiLePhan No he wasn't. just watch some interviews of Kyrie's ex teammates. They loved him. It's just a media narrative.

[@almightyloaf6223]

⁠@@TaiLePhanto the media he was, which you should know by now always put a false narrative on individuals, let’s not forget how much he contributed to each team and where they placed because of him, the media loves to hate him for no reason.

[@Str8.Narrow]

You’re dumb if you think Kyrie was a cancer!!!! He is well loved by every one of his teammates on every team!!! The media is corrupt

[@tommorriopace3451]

Dallas loves kyrie

[@tanyatimms2951]

Facts

[@LC-jq7vn]

UH YES SIR!!

[@playasonlytvofficial]

Yes sir! MAVS UP!

[@Bonus1123]

Kyrie being a lockerroom cancer is a media narrative, not a teammate narrative. 😂😂😂

[@kobebryant76t92]

facts

[@ayebyrdjerzz4197]

Acho really weird !

[@slimfo378]

Only ones calling Kai cancer is yall the media 😂😂😂 dallas loves kai

[@paulettethorne8452]

I've tried but I can't watch this anymore, Mark Cuban said the only ppl that called Ky a cancer was the media, before he signed him he talked to all his former teammates and they don't think that way, I legit hate Emmanuel Acho

[@Creaky_]

You are in your feelings lil too much, all he is saying is Ky can rewrite his reputation. Like it or not Ky's rep has not been great as of late, every team he has been on lately has played better without him. Great player, not so great rep.

[@kforson09]

Its always ur own that kills u 😅😅

[@officialconch]

@@Creaky_you have to be SPED

[@Silverhazey_]

Nobody cares bro. Most people that don’t want to watch something anymore click off and never come back. We don’t care about you watching or not watching, and we don’t care about you at all.

[@paulettethorne8452]

@@Silverhazey_ u clearly do cause u in my mentions, push

[@newmaniac00]

Kyrie averaged 27 points 4 assists and 2 steals per game in the finals against Golden State the year Cleveland won. Kyrie’s already handled his business. Most people who think otherwise are just brainwashed Lebroniacs.

[@riotordiet9154]

He averaged 27 ppg 2017 finals as well when they lost and outplayed steph!!

[@mikebrown-ro6nc]

Him and lebron drop 40 piece each in one of those games

[@melvinbarnett1910]

LeBron average 30 10 and 10 in case you forgot. Love Kyrie, but don't disrespect LeBron.

[@ConvictedFelonDonaldTrump]

Hit game winning shot to win too!

[@Hi-cq2hm]

People say media protect Lebron and that's not true, media actually hide things , very important things that Lebron did. Why the Lady didn't mention that in 2016 finals Lebron had more points and rebounds and assists and steals and blocks than any player in his entire team AND the entire GSW team. Actually Lebron did that in 2015 finals AND 2016 finals and no player in NBA history has done that once let alone twice. But media never mention that.

[@montrazoliver5731]

Bro Kyrie rolled his ankle in Brooklyn…they blowing me

[@3self]

Yea and before kyrie got hurt with the Celtics they were on like a 19 game win streak. The ego ruin that team (scary terry)

[@acemusic725]

@@3selfseems like the media always omits that winning streak and the fact that they were the #2 seed with him before he got hurt late in the season. Their were even some chatter of him being in the mvp race before he went down.

[@deundrefrierson]

@@3selffinally someone said it like the media just be making up their own stories and I hate that they compare the previous season to the next season bc they played different teams if Kyrie was with them on their run to conf finals I think they still would’ve went that far bc of the teams they played and I still think without Kyrie they would’ve lost to the bucks in the second round so how does that make them better

[@100spurs]

Nets were on their way to sweeping the Bucks too before Kyrie got injured

[@acemusic725]

@@100spurs it wouldn’t have been a sweep. Ky got injured in game 4. Bucks won game 3.

[@dreb5776]

Stop the BS! when Ky was on the court with Durant before they left, they were on pace to be the top 3 team until the owner decided to publicly crucify Kyrie. Mavs did not failed last season because of Kyrie, its because he was traded mid season and the team was yet to Gel and instead of going to the play in, Kidd decided it was best to shutdown the season and try for this season and here we are. People still hating on Kyrie

[@terze2226]

Everything 💯 percent right

[@kobebryant76t92]

facts

[@45heisman]

That's not actually true though

[@abduumer6648]

Kyire hate is ridiculous. That man is very strong against all this sellouts.

[@chilltrav9273]

Stupid topic! Kyrie is a mf Champion already!

[@mikebrown-ro6nc]

Bro they have so many dum topics it crazy

[@chilltrav9273]

@@mikebrown-ro6nc Got 4 people up there to talk about nonsense! Thats the problem with having these shows on everyday that only cover one or two sports. They run out of relevant topics!

[@45heisman]

Ok? So you win 1 title and you're career and legacy can never get better or worse? Luka needs a title sure but he's gonna spend next 12 years as an MVP candidate. Kyrie is either going to be a one season wonder or an all time great #2. There is a lot from him to gain by winning

[@Shawnantonioexperience]

Acho is a goofy for that Kyrie take

[@willsportz]

why is this even a question? it's obviously Luka

[@Semperityy]

I’m saying lmao?? i’m confused 😂

[@LC-jq7vn]

Its weird right because Luka is 25 and this is the first time he's ever had a good team. He willed the last team to the WCF with a bunch of 3 point shooters who were hit or miss and couldn't create their own shots. Brunson was a good player but not great. Mavs were 500 3 quarters through the season and is now going to the conference finals twice in 3 years. I feel like their is no pressure on either player. Lukas to young to really hate on with any legitimacy if they lose, and Kyrie is to proven to hate on, the guys a fn champion. This conversation is bull for clicks

[@user-lt1fx2he5s]

@@LC-jq7vnLuka is 24 but Luka also has to play off the ball more

[@LC-jq7vn]

@@user-lt1fx2he5s The team has never been built to do that. These role players scoring 20 points out of no where is from Luka creating those 3 shots and stuff by drawing attention. I agree he shouldn't hold the ball for 12 seconds though, which he was much better about in the last series.

[@jalenterry1725]

@@user-lt1fx2he5sLuka is 25 bro

[@MrGroove0221]

MAVS WIN IT ALL 2024

[@LC-jq7vn]

I keep thinking about that video of an old man in a waffle house earlier this year when mavs were 500 wearing a 2025 Mavericks championship hat like he was from the future. Even if they lose this year I gaurntee you they will win it next year because they only need to strengthen their bench. That is their only real issue besides Lukas injuries.

[@thelast0netillthend]

The shade in this conversation is wild 😂

[@acemusic725]

Boston was 41-19 in the 60 games Kyrie played the first year and won 16 straight with him in the lineup. It was a lot of different factors in why things failed the second year.

[@globalnewztv]

Acho you sound super goofy trying to create unwarranted Kyrie propaganda. Beyond atrocious.

[@Sjtbk23]

Sometimes you can tell when Acho handpicked a topic for the show. He thought this would be such a fascinating conversation like the answer isn't clearly Luka.

[@rahmelg]

Facts 😂😂😂😂

[@pharma2546]

It ain’t Luka, it’s Kyrie. But that’s bc of people like Ocho that Kyrie needs to win bc they tryna force him into a Robin and give the Cavs chip to Lebron. He’s been in Superman/Batman duo, never robin; the stats show. Luka is still young and has another 2yrs before we worry about him. Lebron went to his 1st final in year 7

[@jctslice]

​@@pharma2546 year 4

[@dannydaphantom2362]

Dude was trying hard to get at kyrie but everyone was shutting it down

[@gonchanli]

Luka has already been to wcf with no other star on his team..but he does need this finals appearance

[@javontegreen465]

they talking ab luka like he's 30😂

[@mauricesegar3626]

Kyrie made 2nd Team All NBA his first year in Boston, smh

[@MavDon-qc9tc]

So Luka gets all the blame if they lose but when they win Kyrie isn’t a robin he’s just as important as Luka 😂😂😂😂

[@profilejohan]

You already know it, you can see how the American media has treated Luka all season. If he was black American he would be a god to them

[@Tursilyano-ds2hg]

You got it right race game

[@Hunchopronto]

Yeah can't wait , if it was the other way around you wouldn't be saying nothing 😂

[@kristijanradovac43]

Spot on 😂

[@genrerationx]

Why Kyrie should rewrite the narrative when he's not the one who created it? It's the media.

[@Heygetcurious]

Yep we don't care about what they're talking about here in Dallas.

[@TreFromGary]

When kyrie is on the court he’s Batman idc who’s on the court with him he’s one of the most skilled players to ever play

[@user-fz6yv6vr7t]

Kyrie is legendary and will help Luka complete his training on championship pedigree. Then, Luka will take the torch after he leaves in retirement.

[@chefFamos]

Luka had the torch before Kyrie came and still keeping it he just gives Kyrie the torch sometimes to lead the team

[@bossguyo6424]

Did this goofy say brooklyn was better without kyrie

[@shayane2982]

Yeah saying the nets were better without Kyrie is so beyond stupid. In no way shape or form were they better without him……

[@martelljhixson]

Acho hates Kyrie and he can’t hide it 😂😂💀

[@abtocool6350]

Every take on him is negative, if I was up there I would cook him, the advance metrics and his value over replacement player has always been good. The advance stats say there a better team when he’s on the floor and he didn’t add context. I could do it on here but it would be a lot.😂

[@elliscain2023]

The one without a ring lol

[@kaptainbambino]

Acho annoying man.. They need to swap him out with somebody else let joy run the show!

[@Fingabandit]

Why does it matter they play for the same team? Who pick yall topics yall really should leave basketball alone especially Acho only he would bring up Kyrie past

[@nickivoss9341]

😂😂

[@romey2797]

Ain't no Batman and Robin no more... Batman and Spidah Man

[@DENTONYanaha-lb8uw]

Ocho Having a Snide Jab at KYRIE, Because he is not Having the VAX

[@Themanwhosaidsorry]

Luka needs it more than Kyrie. Luka needs at least an appearance to justify his inclusion in the GOAT discussion.

[@SevenDaPantha]

An appearance won't get him there. He needs a lot more. But it would definitely justify all of the hype for people who don't know the game and recognize his talent.

[@jctslice]

No player can be a GOAT at 25

[@chefFamos]

@@jctslice except Goat Luka

[@Jason-nb7tr]

I'm beginning to really dislike that Tether Ocho!😂

[@ireqsavagevocaldinosaur5795]

Wtf is Acho talking about smh

[@IOSARBX]

SPEAK, Your videos always brighten my day, so I subscribed!

[@sharaymecrumble2235]

Hahahahahaha yoooooo acho u are reaching with that chart dude😂😂😂😂

[@franksaint84]

Yea that mf lying bout the nets

[@shayane2982]

@@franksaint84literally straight cap on every level. Like when he was banned cuz the vax they dropped to a 7th seed and they needed a Kyrie 40 point game with like 4 misses to carry them into the play offs 😂

[@ralphkensley5165]

Acho tried to reach and they all slapped his hand down 😂 FOH

[@martelljhixson]

😂😂😂

[@jctslice]

Luka. He's never been before. Kyrie's already been there and balled tf out

[@lord-marroking1315]

Right he’s been there but he needs one without Lebron.

[@timfwaygo2537]

They've already said that's because of lebron he definitely needs one without bron like kobe needed one without shaq

[@jctslice]

​@@lord-marroking1315 but if he's the Robin again, how much credit will they really give Kyrie ?

[@jctslice]

​@@timfwaygo2537​ but if he's the Robin again, how much credit will they really give Kyrie ?

[@timfwaygo2537]

@@jctslice kyrie is not no Robin to Luka lol they both 1of1

[@melvinbarnett1910]

Acho is just talking for talking sake.

[@IOSARBX]

SPEAK, I really enjoyed this video, so I hit the like button!

[@saiwaqa2573]

I think joy is easily the best female analyst when it comes to sport. Sje understands the game better than any other currently working in the industry

[@robertgreen8422]

Just media call that a cancer how the he'll they kno they ain't in the locker room smh sad

[@markhicks986]

It’s Luka, and it’s not even close. Despite everything Acho said to make his case about Kyrie, he HAS a championship on his resume; and Luka hasn’t even been to the Finals. I have no idea why this is a topic. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@jctslice]

But that's not his title. It's LeBron's

[@ba_lotah]

@@jctsliceidiot

[@jaquanbaker6144]

@@jctslice so it was all lebron cus I’m pretty sure lebron never beat the warriors without him in the finals😭

[@jctslice]

@@jaquanbaker6144 oh no lol not all, but it was LeBron's team and city really. He's gonna get the most credit for that ring. Kyrie for sure helped tho

[@naw7872]

Dude create a intire conspiration of Kyrie inside the head, looks like a flat-earther lunatic 😂😂

[@simonnovak3574]

If they loose we will blame Luka, and if they win, we will give Kyrie respect :)

[@ba_lotah]

People that call kyrie a robin always tryna diminish and downplay his impact as a player. I hate that

[@jesleal72]

Right.. it ain't Batman and Robin.. It's Batman and Superman..

[@georgehale5133]

He's definitely a Robin, proved long ago he's not a franchise player, more like a 🤡🤡🤡

[@ronniepayne100]

Acho just lied on Kyrie. The nets were never better without Kyrie . That’s why JH left. If Boston was so much better with Kyrie why are the fans still hurt everytime he play there? They would’ve been happy he was gone.

[@candlerrdvetg9009]

No team was ever better without kyrie. Those stats are misleading.

[@sharaymecrumble2235]

It’s Luka and it ain’t close! This is Lucas team nd he finished 3rd in mvp. Stop it acho! U my guy but u bugging my boy

[@walterwalker8359]

Jones actually understands that mans talent and work ethic. He doesn't work like "hero support", he moves like "left hand, right hand".

[@jasperigbokwe5166]

What type of question is this they’re on the same team???

[@abmerkeju8093]

It's crazy to call another person Cancer

[@georgehale5133]

Not when it's true. Applies to Kyrie and Terrell Owens.

[@mgpray]

Acho was corny for the Kyrie take in the beginning.

[@chrispy10939]

I hate the batman & Robin thing. Kyrie looked like superman out there in game 1 helping Batman out in the biggest series of his career so far.

[@heyzeus6149]

“ disappointed in the Denver nuggets “ - Acho somewhere

[@D2RGGBuilds]

Basketball is a team sport, it takes a special group around these stars and "side kicks".

[@corystuart3422]

I think the only reason why this is a conversation is because Kyrie is so gifted and the fact that we was tripping out on the other teams. The difference is no one has ever seen Kyrie as the MVP so yes the answer to this question is easy. LUKA!

[@michaelrobiscamillo2851]

Kyrie found his rightful team for him.. happy for Kyrie

[@samuelfelix2577]

When it comes to media, that Luka game 7 vs Suns never happened lol

[@l.h.tnguyen4916]

Why do we listen to these guys who always trash the Mavs?

[@jamelharris1668]

Ky already rewrote his narrative with them being in the WCF???

[@johnnokov2852]

I don’t get why they act like it’s not a team sport

[@williamvelazquez659]

With the game on the line Kyrie is the player to have ..he delivers 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

[@diegotomasarene-morley7249]

Same

[@Aalender]

Acho just wrote a book 📕 Uncomfortable conversations with a Jew - next topic - Acho this nasty work 😂

[@tornadoesbigo]

KYRIE is the best player on this team

[@Davidstone568]

Kyrie has luka to carry him now and can win if he will play 4 qtrs. Luka can go and make Denver a dynasty. Kyrie has few future options. Kyrie needs this the most

[@cameronjohnson1949]

I actually can’t stand the media

[@renatobucu7526]

Luka historically makes his team mates much better including Kyrie. He inspired them to taste success, that what makes them very difficult opponent to other teams

[@GhostfaceLouis]

Kyrie Legend

[@8stanic22]

Kyrie needed Luka, Laku needed Kyrie. ANd the two new guys. His army is set to go 🦍🦍🦍

[@justchillinhowichill]

The guy at the end took the words out of my mouth. Emmanuel tried to sneak in the Robin narrative and dude came in and said why tf are we talking about a Robin when Kyrie is often considered the most skilled NBA player ever 😭 like he said we don’t even think of Scottie or whoever else you want I consider a “Robin” that way. Exhibit A of how the media uses narratives to diminish someone’s greatness.

[@ryankellz]

MARK CUBAN THE MOST UNDERPRESSURE. KYRIE AND LUKA ARE A GREAT DUO, THEY PLAY TOGETHER AND GRT ALONG.. THATS WHAT MATTERS.

[@Calcon23]

Lame. Yall avoided talking in length about Dallas knocking off OKC after once again picking wrong. And then jump into a discussion of yet another thing Luka or Kyrie needs to do. FOH.

[@jayjones9225]

Luka. As good as Kyrie is, he’s not a guy who COULD go down as the GOAT. Luka has GOAT potential, or at least top 10 discussion potential

[@FitJourney_JC]

Guy talking around the 2 or 3 minute mark is extremely annoying

[@dianna_xamp]

No puede ser banda 🗣️🔥‼️

[@cloudunderweather9554]

If ky can win another title with luka, i think he'll officially be a first ballot HOF I'd be so proud of him

[@esrever9121]

Did ocho just say nets were better without Kyrie??

[@myredrumscold210]

Lmaooo love how bum acho has no context on kyries playoff teams. What a joke

[@imakeitlooksoeasy]

Acho you’re pushing that narrative 😂😂

[@Musicmusic55711]

Kyrie is like Kendrick it dont matter how long but they here get out the way

[@seanc1105]

EVERY player on Mavs played a pivotal role in that last victory over the Thunder AND in all their victories in the playoffs. Every one of those plays in the last 3 minutes by every Mavs player could easily be described as pivotal.

[@whowantsit9820]

Acho reminds us all

[@djbeazy]

Somebody needs to give Acho time off do he can't host or speak.

[@AMusicnSportsnComedyfan]

The Dallas Mavericks need a NBA Finals appearance

[@EPTV882]

I think that because Kyrie stood on his principles, he is a bad person is crazy.

[@ryantrigg9129]

We love kyrie in Dallas

[@ericbanks9286]

Appreciate y’all for putting respect on kyrie name 💪🏿💪🏿😂

[@samanthabrady3265]

Acho's words on Kyrie's descriptior is too harsh and too judgey

[@aSTROnomical_8]

Shady was a syllable away from letting that GD fly on air lol

[@giffondhall9214]

How about both?

[@BPS270]

Kyrie did it with LeBron a decade ago Luka is Young he still has time Kyrie definitely is running out of time he needs it more

[@yeastarly4268]

Crazy that 77 is younger than shai but theyre acting like 77 is a bum who hasnt done anything and sga is some sort of prodigy

[@ye7006]

When I heard the question I said “Luka, duh”. But gotta give it to acho, he’s great at playing devils advocate and had great points. I still think it’s luka tho.

[@zivadinjaric8781]

With Luka would be same story even if he win's championship soo