Does My Bulletproof Ballgown Really Work?

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[@victorlugo6661]

What a great collaboration, Taoflermaus is one of my favorite channels, they recently lost a team member to cancer. R.I.P Danny, I donated blood in your honor.

[@der_municycler]

#Taofledercrew

[@The_Mimewar]

I JUST found out. STINKS!!

[@ETC_Rohaly_USCG]

I donated as well.

[@TheSuperduperzach]

😭😭😭😭😭

[@Mikey_Clarkie]

I saw Danny's last video a few days ago. I'll miss him. He was such a great guy, I always enjoyed seeing him on the channel.

[@YerluvinunclePete]

You are totally Taoflederfolk. You came with a well thought out variety of samples to test, put them through progressive loading and you even brought your own creepy mannequin! It was also nice to see Jeff as more than a disembodied voice and hand.

[@t.r.4496]

She was out with OG for a day and already wanted to stick her finger in something.

[@vicroc4]

@@t.r.4496 He has that effect on people.

[@ellencameron3775]

@@vicroc4 Even the Turkish coast guard?

[@dtucny]

It was so strange to see Jeff's voice coming from a human form.

[@SonofTheMorningStar666]

Progressive loading? I thought Tao and Greg hated anything progressive.

[@edwarddrost5299]

About as effective as an epoxied bungie cord. The resin locked up the Kevlar, so it couldn't move and mitigate the energy. Better to quilt six or more layers of Kevlar, then attach it the carbon fiber and resin outer shell. I'll make a matching tuxedo. I'll glad you found someone who could teach you gun safety, and you had a good time.

[@FUDKOPOP]

I just about to comment that

[@WhackBytch256]

@@FUDKOPOP me too 😚

[@francisschweitzer8431]

Agreed…. The fibers were locked up as far as the corset is concerned. As we saw with the panels… they were in fact more capable of stopping a round just because of how thick they were.

[@jamieminton172]

What he said

[@thelastcrusader8140]

Aramid could be better than kevlar when made in this fashion. But you will need a lot more because of how thin the sheets are. Edit: or you could epoxie the outside edges to keep it together while retaining the flexibility.

[@TheStraycat74]

1:42 Officer Gregg is a good guy to teach you firearms safety. ALWAYS get training, training is IMPORTANT to firearms safety. (as certain recent news stories will prove out... but no comment on those) TFM is pretty darn good when it comes to videography, and he's a good guy that films weird stuff!

[@KrazyMitchAdventures]

in Canada Firearm training is a 3 day course, and its mandatory.

[@TheStraycat74]

@@KrazyMitchAdventures if every kid in Canada is required to take a firearms safety course, then maybe I should stop making fun of Canadians... quite as much

[@michaelwang1730]

@@KrazyMitchAdventures And I thought US was known for guns?

[@Anon54387]

@@TheStraycat74 I don't think it is everyone, just those buying a gun. The USA used to teach gun safety in schools, and we should now.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

@@KrazyMitchAdventures Yeah I'm a staunch 2A supporter, but I think firearms safety should be a prerequisite for ownership.

[@donniebamberg1508]

I used to work in the arms trade building UAVs. Kevlar in laminates is used primarily for an anti-tare material, basicly a material to hold together carbons so things don't work their way through. Kevlar for "bulletproofing" is usually a different weave of higher quality Arimid fibers, in a tighter weave. ANY filler/stiffening materials (i.e. epoxy) actully reduces the efficiency of the weave. As has been mentioned, Kevlar is a soft armor ment to "catch" the bullet by slowing round as it pushes through the armor, stretching the weave. Which is why the epoxy is reducing the efficiency of the Kevlar, its not allowing the weave to stretch.

[@b43xoit]

Anti-tear?

[@David-tl6lv]

I don't mean to dispute your credentials, but as others have pointed out most ballistic helmets use multiple layers of epoxied Kevlar. When hit they deform, absorbing the impact - which is why they're also fairly large and have very thick padding on the inside, so the dent doesn't get transferred into the users skull. That said they're typically ~1/4" thick, quite a bit more than the dress panels.

[@b43xoit]

@@David-tl6lv This is a little off topic, but your description of the helmets reminds me of Snell-approved motorcycle helmets. Of course, slamming into pavement is not the same as getting hit by a bullet. I don't know what the hard shell is made of, but they do share the padding on the inside, but it may be even thicker. The makers of the ones used to have said that if the helmet ever gets dropped onto a hard surface, it should go back to the mfr for x-ray examination. So that suggests that the shell deforms permanently in some way (de-laminates?) in a design to absorb energy.

[@donniebamberg1508]

@@David-tl6lv with the correct epoxies, in thick substrates, yes that is correct. In part the epoxies used are designed to "reflow" to an extent when heated by the friction of the round passing into it. The thicker piece allows for the projectile to hit and deform on the outer layer (sometimes a shell or coating) to increase surface area, which A) slows the round some and B) generates heat that softens the resin. Then there's the debate of of proprietary fibers, coatings, Yada Yada yada...(least that's how it was explained to me)

[@donniebamberg1508]

@@b43xoit to prevent things from tearing the structure. In the case of what I did, preventing embedded hardware and hard points from ripping through the carbon under stress. Carbon (and to a lesser extent fiberglass) tends to shatter when shockloads are applied or if a crack forms. Kevlar has a "softer" failure mode in which the resin will separate from the weave to an extent and can be used to hold things together even after it has failed. To my knowledge it is due to the permeability of the fibers which can be seen when you post cure cut the materials. Asuming you don't get the materials too hot and alter the resins...Carbon tends to cut fairly clean, fiberglass tends to have some fraying, Kevlar is a mess. Those frayed fibers being ones that were not rigidized by absorbing resins into the fiber.

[@foddersfollies7494]

Xyla, for a first time shooter, I cannot express how proud of you I am. You showed more firearm discipline than people that have handled firearms for years. Great muzzle discipline, Great trigger discipline, all around great job. Thank you for being you and willing to learn new things and how to do those things with excellence!!!!

[@PeterStuckey]

I even noticed that she removed her finger from the trigger when not firing. Great job!

[@alex0589]

Pretty sure that's not her first time shooting but yes, great discipline is extremely important, sadly that needs to be restated all the time

[@COIcultist]

@@alex0589 Xyla says on the OG's show video that she shot a bit as a kid, but from the film I saw from OG, they both took instruction well.

[@Avetho]

@@COIcultist I think some people are also just naturals at trigger discipline, for example me as a Canadien has never held a firearm, but even so when holding anything even vaguely gun shaped like an electric drill or a nail-gun or a desoldering-gun or a glue-gun I always make sure to keep my finger off the trigger. I did it with Nerf guns and their Buzz Bee cousins when I was a wee little boy dodging Nerf-fire from my bro Edit: Heck, I just realized I do it with my hair dryer too XD

[@COIcultist]

@@Avetho Totally different discipline but I nearly if not ripped my arm off, I was close to mutilating it badly with a drill. I was drilling through some 1/2" steel plate. I was using a drill with a steady handle for my left hand, but the grip and trigger for the right hand was a "D" handle at the back of the drill on the centreline of the drill. The drill bit locked in the steel plate and started to revolve the drill. I had applied the trigger lock and my hand and arm started to twist around , locked within the "D" shape. Fortunately some part of my hand contacted the trigger and the drill stopped. That is one of my closest to a stupid accident moments.

[@slamberryp960]

Kevlar is "bulletproof" because it is a fabric, it acts almost like a net and physically catches the projectile. "Fun fact" Silk was used for the first bulletproof vest, it behaved very similar to modern kevlar

[@arthurminiear2904]

The standout in this video is your muzzle discipline, even after shooting the shotgun, when you were obviously surprised by the recoil. Officer Greg's notice of this, highlights his training effectiveness, and your tall spikey learning curve. Good job shooting, too! It looks like a hobby you have some natural potential to be really good at. I'd be interested in seeing you try some long range target shooting. I think you might be a quick study at picking up the nuances of computing the intricacies involved in long range accuracy.

[@chikentori]

I wonder if epoxying the kevlar actually made it less effective at bullet resistance? Isn't the way kevlar works predicated on its ability to move? Like elasticity crossed with non Newtonian fluid dynamics? But epoxying it and not allowing the kelvar to deform and spread out the impulse of the impact, wouldn't it have restricted its efficacy? I'm guessing the sandwiched layers of kevlar and carbon fiber will fair much better. Sort of like how laminated cooking vessels work with alternating layers of very conductive vs high capacity/energy density to spread it more evenly between the source of the energy and the other side.

[@imills]

That's certainly the case. The flexibility of the Kevlar is a key part of its bullet resistance.

[@hellomark1]

Hah I was coming here to suggest the same thing. I mean I know very little about kevlar/bullets/etc, but my understanding of how kevlar works is the fabric bunches up and catches the bullet, and maybe the epoxy isn't letting it do its job in that sense. Also this method of bunching up and catching the bullet only works on bullets because they're spinning through the air like a football, it's much less likely to work on a random piece of shrapnel, or something like armour-piercing rounds, which are coated in teflon, so the kevlar can't bunch together and absorb the impact. This was still a very satisfying video to watch though, so thanks for doing this Xyla!

[@DavyHulme]

I assumed the same thing, kevlar chainsaw pants are padded with loose woven kevlar fibres that wrap round the moving chain & stop it. A bullet proof ballgown would probably work better designed along the same lines, a flexible padded construction beneath - it be more comfortable plus the wearer wouldn't end up with carbon fibres embedded in them if they got shot. Or chainsawed. Edit: agree, still v satisfying to watch the ballgown fully tested

[@hellomark1]

@@DavyHulme Yeah, I totally hate getting shot and then chainsawed

[@wingracer1614]

Ballistic helmets are made this way. Layers of kevlar epoxied together. Just needs to be a bit thicker. I don't remember for sure but I believe most kevlar helmets are at least 16 layers.

[@tavianhamer-wilson373]

Can we just take a moment to appreciate how damn cool Xyla is, wearing a flowy white dress and stompy boots and shooting a cowboy gun.

[@CatCow97]

Flashbacks to Summer Glau in Firefly...

[@devvynully]

That's a movie I'd watch.

[@blaster-zy7xx]

Jesus is the devil.

[@error.418]

@Miles Doyle Sounds kinda judgmental, wouldn't trust anyone like that.

[@pascalroggen8364]

@@error.418 probably tortures and kills babies as part of it's unknowable plan...yeesh

[@johnnymac1976]

I've been watching TAOFLEDERMAUS and his crew for years and years. He has never shown his face and we finally get see the legend himself on Xyla's channel. Perfect collaboration!

[@OGsDangerShow]

Jeff has been in quite a few of his own vids. I’ve turned the camera on him more than a few times. I’ve done two behind the scenes videos that feature him heavily.

[@projectbumblejeep4190]

The addition of the resin completely changes how effective Kevlar is at stopping bullets. Kevlar's ability to stop bullets is how much it can deform on impact without allowing the projectile to pass through. The addition of the resin to the Kevlar reduces it's effectiveness as a bullet stopping material. Just sayin'. Good stuff. God bless and stay well.

[@horvathbenedek3596]

I guess that's why they use the kevlar WITHOUT a resin matrix for helmets... because it works better that way. Right? If you don't know something, it's possible not to voice an uneducated opinion.

[@grimfpv292]

I think resin-infused kevlar might work for slow impact applications, like a boat-hull running aground a reef. For fast impacts like bullets, you want the kevlar to be able to move more dynamically..

[@MrJdsenior]

It has more to do with the fact that kevlar has exceedingly high tensile strength, but yes the so called bullet proof aspect requires the weave to be able to deform, as you said. If this were not the case fiberglass would work just as well, and it won't. And I know someone that was shot while wearing a police vest at fairly close range with a medium energy weapon (a lot more than a 22, but not remotely a 44 mag) and his report to me was that it was a bit like being hit very hard with a hammer. It still does a good bit of damage, just not the lethal kind, which is always good.

[@grimfpv292]

Kevlar in resin-composites is used for it's abrasive resistance more than it's tensile strength. For tensile strength, one usually goes with Carbon fiber, or the higher grade glass-fibers.

[@DreadPop]

@@horvathbenedek3596 hahaha

[@static2430]

Great video, Xyla! Looks like you're a natural shot! I'd like to offer a theory on your results: In most cases, Kevlar is used as a soft armor. Part of its bullet catching ability comes from being able to flex when the round hits it. When you covered it in epoxy and carbon fiber, you took away that flexibility.

[@marvnuts]

Yes I believe kevlar armor slows and "catches" the bullet. It's the difference between doing a superhero landing on one knee and vs two feet. A superhero landing would destroy your hip.

[@tompw3141]

Makes is terrible for stab resistance. :-)

[@KeithOlson]

I was about to post the same thing. It would be interesting to see how well an alternating hard carbon fiber/soft kevlar 'sandwich' would work, with the innermost carbon fiber shell being much thicker to act as a backstop. (To make the whole thing at once, I would use plastic film between the layers to prevent resin from soaking into the kevlar.)

[@static2430]

@@KeithOlson even layering the kevlar without the epoxy, being sandwiched between hard layers would still negate its abilities.

[@jtjames79]

@@static2430 I think he had something with the idea of using plastic. They make plasticized resin. It's popular for 3D printing miniatures, makes it so the pointy bits don't pop off so easy.

[@Uebermenschman]

IT'S OG!! This is a collab I never even thought about, let alone its feasibility! Wish Danny could've been there for this too. We miss you Danny!

[@OGsDangerShow]

Danke me in Herr. We all miss Danny.

[@COIcultist]

I could have cried laughing when at 12.16 she said "It's not resistive, it's like I could stick my finger through that." I'm thinking, "has this girl watched much filming with Greg in it?"

[@dan725]

We miss you Danny. Rest in Peace.

[@nunyabidness674]

3:00 The fact you went through firearms safety just stood out waaaaaaaay more than you maintaining muzzle discipline. Video starts you say "We have to learn how to shoot guns", get some instruction and it becomes "We are now comfortable with the WEAPON" And yes! MANY MANY MANY KUDOS!!! Not only to Officer Greg for teaching, but for you being a RECEPTIVE STUDENT!!!

[@dougmoore6612]

Hahahaha! The instructor’s comment about the dance was hilarious. Xyla started her victory dance and my first thought was, “No! Don’t start dancing around… wait, she’s doing a great job of keeping her weapon pointed downrange. Nevermind. Good work!” And then he said exactly what I thought. LOL!

[@OGsDangerShow]

She was a natural. Better than most of the police officers I train.

[@Hawkido]

Great choice going to Taofledermaus, They really know weapons, and most importantly how to safely handle and discharge them. Make sure you come back to them anytime you want ballistic collaboration.

[@Yman83464z]

I like the way you call Taofledermaus "they" and "them" - It reflects the fact that he is actually an INSTITUTION, and more than just one man...

[@xxxlonewolf49]

"Brittle" tends to be hard and hard stops & shatters rounds. Level 4 (rifle stopping armor plates) are a mix of ceramic & 'other things'. Soft kevlar catches slow-moving, non-pointed things.

[@apokalypsecow9756]

Usually, NIJ Level IV plates are ceramic first, followed by an NIJ Level III AR500 or AR550 steel armor plate. The ceramic is there to be a hard, brittle layer that causes a lot of energy dump from the initial impact, causing the ceramic to shatter, followed by the steel to stop and spall anything that continues on. For soft body armor, such as NIJ Level IIIA kevlar (or whatever modern equivalent they're using today, such as another aramid composite, that we just generically refer to as kevlar), it'll stop pretty much any pistol round, up to .44 Magnum, though it falls apart against rifle rounds, so your "slow-moving" comment is relatively accurate - general rule is, speed defeats armor. See, the way kevlar stops a bullet is due to the tremendous drag it creates on penetrating objects when the fibers are ruptured and split, they just create so much surface area against the projectiles that they dump all their energy in trying to get past those fiber endings. Think of the end of a piece of thread spreading out into all the tiny fibers that make it up, then multiply that by a zillion, and it's all the surface area of those tiny fibers that creates drag that stops the projectiles (and any fragments that may result from the impact). If a projectile is going much faster, though, then it'll spend less time in contact with that surface area, and thus dump less energy into it, consequently proceeding through.

[@Timmy6216]

I hope somebody somewhere recognizes that young people who had never been exposed to firearms were exposed in a Safeway and they were able to enjoy their time and learn and do it in such a wonderful place with an fantastic instructor. That's how you teach weapons handling and that's how people should learn how to handle a weapon and understand that they are not the weapons of mass destruction that the media will portray. I'm very happy that this young lady made this dress and while it may not have been bulletproof she got to learn something about a work I'm thinking about a world that she was not familiar with, an officer Greg quite possibly was the best person to show her

[@rudysmith1445]

I absolutely agree! My politics and interests would make most people assume I've never fired a gun in my life, but I'm actually a good shot, and I very much believe in safety! It always makes me sad to see people going around with zero understanding of what they're doing, even if it's just a Nerf gun. But when I try to tell a lot of my peers, they get uncomfortable like I'm some sort of fanatic gun psycho or something. I wish more people my age had the ability to stop and consider world views apart from their own. I think a lot of us are scared of what we don't understand, and that's shameful, honestly.

[@CGamesPlay]

I hope to never be exposed to firearms in a Safeway!

[@teineone]

@@CGamesPlay Yeah that'd probably end poorly lol

[@BeyondBirth]

What a great collaboration! The testing was fun to watch. I love that you learned to safely use firearms from two really great guys. Taofladermouse and officer Greg are just great! This is one my favorite videos now.

[@andybogart2503]

Given the events of this past week, I appreciated how seriously you presented the safety training, and how you always handled those weapons with care. ❤️

[@helpabrothawithasubisaiah5316]

@Miles Doyle truth, love you brother in christ

[@fernfractal]

what happened this week?

[@SonsOfLorgar]

@@fernfractal the filming incident involving mr. Baldwin and the death of a movie camera woman.

[@legbreaker2762]

@@fernfractal a complete and utter breakdown of all the necessary safety rules because movie stars are apparently above that sort of thing...

[@j.f.christ8421]

@@legbreaker2762 They are, it's not their job. The people providing the weapons screwed up.

[@andy-in-indy]

I am really glad you went with Taofledermaus. Those guys are great with safety and really enjoy exploring their curious nature. Also, they have collaborated with other channels like Peter Brown, so I knew they would enjoy working with you.

[@reaganharder1480]

Most youtubers I've seen who are actually firearm focused are very good with safety. Taofledermaus definitely has a curious side too, and I have spent considerable time watching with glee all the things they've fired out of a shotgun.

[@mduckernz]

@@reaganharder1480 They're certainly, uh, varied :p (but yeah they've also had some quite interesting and reasonably scientific content too, which I liked)

[@adventureswithducky4088]

Your cooperation with Jeff is what made me aware of your channel. I love your fun approach to engineering projects!

[@michaelsudsysutherland5353]

Love watching bullet proof testing. It's been amazing experiencing the revolution in body armor from the early 2000's when I first enlisted and was issued a Vietnam era flak vest (just a soft kevlar fiber vest created to reduce injury from shell fragments, not actually stop bullets...) through the mid 2000's when we were issued Interceptor Body Amor (soft kevlar armor with plate inserts of hard armor). Many of the layer and material combinations you have in this video, along with other more exotic materials, have been tried and tested. Some worked great, some failed with certain specialized ammuntions, some were just no practical for soldiers to wear all day. "Bullet proof" is a fluid term after all... Just like all engineering challenges. I'd be curious to see how many layers of kevelar/carbon fiber could achieve bullet resistance while still getting the artistic qualities you are looking for in a piece of fashion. Moving on from here, it would be interesting what kinds molding and casting set you you might try out to make a legitimate, nearly bullet proof, super heroine gown of armor! That is if you decided to keep pursuing such a project! When cosplay armor meets real world testing! Liked and subscribed!

[@kingmasterlord]

I say we all start doing that as a community

[@DeliveryMcGee]

"Despite the victory dance, you always kept the muzzle pointed downrange."

[@DeliveryMcGee]

Also, lol the high-necked dress. You don't want cleavage when working with semiauto guns, as some of my well-endowed friends have learned from experience.

[@OGsDangerShow]

She did amazingly well for an (almost) first timer. Very good shooter and both her and Joe were naturals at accuracy and safety.

[@JCWren]

I used to work USPSA matches as a range officer. We had a few low-time lady shooters show up wearing scoop neck shirts or other cleavage exposing tops. One of them voluntarily applied duct tape across her shirt rather than go home to change. A couple learned the hard way, in spite of advice from other seasoned lady shooters.

[@mduckernz]

@@DeliveryMcGee Let me guess... hot potato? (cartridge ejection) I know little of it but it seems that would indeed be rather distressing!

[@patrickhector]

@@mduckernz happened to my aunt once, so yeah you don't want to give hot brass an excuse to jump down your shirt

[@jawa6306]

I'm tickled you actually shot the carbon fiber corset. Great firearm discipline! Y'all set a shining example of a first timer learning how to treat a gun with safety and respect.

[@AcornFox]

A CROSSOVER I NEVER EXPECTED BUT I LOVE SO MUCH

[@wilsonrawlin8547]

What an AWESOME COLAB! Two great channels and great people getting together bringing us excellent informative content.

[@andrewedgecombe]

The thing I can’t get over is how incredibly the epoxy held up - I fully expected more delamination than you found on most of the shots. Fascinating! Love it!

[@ca5cad3xml7sx4]

Watch a bulllet proof vest getting hit in slo motion. The epoxy prevents flexing in the fibers, witch is what dissipates energy.

[@SonsOfLorgar]

@Miles Doyle nobody cares about your ponzi scheme fraud.

[@andreww9513]

@Miles Doyle Stay on topic.

[@cogitoergoludo]

This does call for a Mk II bullet proof ball gown, this time with thicker Kevlar and carbon fiber and a better fit so you actually fit it comfortably this time… who’s with me?

[@crimsonhalo13]

*whispers "AR500 steel ..."*

[@bullzebub]

it would be interesting to see a thicker 50 percent kevlar that actually stops the bullet and see the result on front / back. :-) also... i think therefore school?

[@cogitoergoludo]

@@bullzebub I think therefore I play.

[@georgeolund7572]

@Crimson Halo Hell yeah that’s exactly what I was thinking ball gown plate armour would be awesome. Probably really heavy though.

[@georgeolund7572]

I think the epoxy is probably weakening the kevlar somewhat because kevlar is usually a soft armour so as cool as the carbon fibre looks I think A softer more padded kevlar ball gown would do a better job stopping bullets.

[@grovermatic]

Welcome to the Taoflederfamily! I about fell out of my chair when I saw three of my favorite YT channels unexpectedly collaborate!

[@johns1625]

2:41 Look at that trigger discipline! Great job and welcome to the Taoflederfolk fanclub! I hope you continue your interests in firearms.

[@kevinj9059]

Hard carbon fiber shell with soft kevlar behind it: most "bulletproof" vests are just layers and layers of kevlar fabric and it catches the bullet by dispersing the force across the surface. With the addition of the hard shell it would decelerate and break up the round before hitting the soft kelvar, giving it a better chance to catch it. Also, it's great to see you working with a KZbin gun channel: KZbin is absolutely horrible when it comes to supporting gun related content.

[@WhoTouchMyGun]

I think the other way around would be better. Soft Kevlar would catch and dissipate the energy, where the hard carbon fiber shell underneath would deflect the shrapnel that has way less energy. And given that carbon fiber won't shatter, it wouldn't explode into the person.

[@MikeZ8709]

The hard layer would also help against knives and would probably even dissipate the impact of a baseball bat, for example. Think of an athletes chest protector or a baseball helmet (for the impact, not the knives lol)

[@kevinj9059]

@@mxcherryblue5943 Sorry, but no, that is backwards. You want the bullet to strike the hard layer first. If you put the soft Kevlar in front then the hard surface behind it acts like a chopping block. Look at any actual composite armors: the soft layer is always towards the body.

[@kevinj9059]

@@WhoTouchMyGun Sorry, nope. The hard shell is first. For example: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ioCXmZanabaGrK8

[@mxcherryblue5943]

@@kevinj9059 isn't the Kevlar the soft one? You a a soft one to obsorb the energy and the hard one to kept it in shape. Same with steel and ceramics, steel is softer than the ceramic that is harder(and fragile).

[@walterriblethegreat]

I just wanted to thank you for not being afraid to get outside your comfort zone and collaborate with gun content creators. There's a lot of overlap of people interested in engineering and people interested in guns. It's unfortunate that guns can be politically divisive because they're such great examples of engineering and materials science.

[@kyleh3615]

A gun is as much of a tool as an angle grinder or a hammer. All three are functional weapons, just one is politicized.

[@moki123g]

@@kyleh3615 Just one is specifically designed to kill. Just say n'

[@live2dream1966]

@@moki123g and yet, more people are killed with hammers and bats.

[@llejk]

If you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail. If you have a gun, everything looks like a victim.

[@SonsOfLorgar]

@@llejk not to my experience with military firearms and ordnance, though with the latter, everything is just a string of map grid coordinates XD

[@hairybubbles127]

Great dress build. Fantastic testing. The great attitude and open mind, bent on safety ices the cake. Well done!

[@rickyricardo3551]

This was great , it's always so much fun to see someone who is new at shooting enjoying themselves safely and also getting the hang at a new sport all at once .

[@rooster7011]

I was super excited to see the video title and when I saw TAOFLEDERMAUS and Officer Gregg I freakin lost it!! That was such an awesome video and a great collaboration. I love learning about ballistics from their channel! Hope to see more from you guys in the future!

[@LVLouisCyphre]

That's probably the only way to legally shoot in CA is to do it with a commissioned LEO present. I'm willing to bet without Officer Greg present, TAOFLEDERMAUS YT videos would be illegal in CA. It would have been really entertaining if FPSRussia did a cameo with his 2A rights restored or he shot it with an arrow or crossbow bolt. He can possess and use those. And as always, have nice day.

[@GeofDumas]

That first shot reminds me of how they market to people who are on a low-gluten diet for trend reasons. It's not gluten-free, it's "gluten-friendly" It's not bullet-proof, it's "bullet-friendly"

[@vjnobody]

I have to say, as a person who has to be gluten free, doing this as an expensive hobby is frightening. Since trends amp up the market, using this reasoning we probably have GF pizza much faster, I have to like it.

[@GeofDumas]

@@vjnobody same. Power to all the trendy eaters. They let me live more normally

[@helpabrothawithasubisaiah5316]

@@vjnobody my aunt thought she was gluten intolerant and it just ended up being cancer. Many people makeup gluten intolerance in their own head

[@KnuckleHunkybuck]

Lol, "bullet-friendly" sounds like the exact opposite of what you'd want.

[@KnuckleHunkybuck]

@@helpabrothawithasubisaiah5316 I had a girlfriend who was gluten intolerant right up until something sounded good that contained gluten. Then it was fine. She kind of reminded me of a girl I knew once who was allergic to cigarette smoke, but she luckily got over her allergy when she picked up a smoking habit.

[@eastoforion]

this is such a fun crossover! weirdest mix of people but very fun

[@danwhirl7737]

Such a fun video! I really appreciate your concern for safety, and proper instruction! As a former instructor I enjoy watching beginners first positive experiences! Nice video, thank you!

[@integza]

Xylophony seems charming and tough, does she have an intagram account?

[@xylafoxlin]

Yeah but it’s Xyla Fauxlin

[@itsprobablykiaan]

Integza !!!

[@abdel1213]

@@xylafoxlin 😂😂

[@Inertia888]

@@xylafoxlin 🙃i thought he meant the lady you were shooting at? haha..

[@thefunkosaurus]

@@GardFiring a mannequin dream , am I right?

[@jamesbromstead4949]

Xyla, great effort. Cuddo's to the Taofledermaus crew. Just remember, experimentation is the key to real science and engineering.

[@Mombasa2k3]

Love Taofledermaus great choice to Collab with them as they are knowledgeable and do testing with guns often. Glad you're learning to shoot as well. It can be fun and safe if you learn and follow even basic weapon safety... Cool that the Carbon/Kevlar potentially did better than Kevlar alone.

[@allenshepard7992]

1) Excellent testing and thoughts. Yes, people do and will help others. 2) There is a "River Tam" from "Firefly": vibe there. 3) Please stay in practice with gun safety. Practice re-enforces muscle memory and keeps one up to snuff. 4) Keep doing what you are doing.

[@ChurchOfTheHolyMho]

Leaving in OG's comment about keeping the barrel pointed downrange while doing your dance is important. Firearms are fun when enjoyed safely. Smiles all around during a collab with Taofledermaus and OG. Excellent!

[@SlyPearTree]

That's an unexpected collab, I love it.

[@Talostd]

I came over from Taofledermaus and wasn’t expecting to enjoy this channel so much. Xyla brings such great energy and creativity with her.

[@Astroponicist]

it's great to see KZbinrs from different ends of the algorithm collaborating on a set of videos. Im a fan of both of your channels & thrilled to see this video. hoping for more videos like this.

[@Aaron.Reichert]

I'm glad you put so much focus on safety and told your viewers about it.

[@thinkingbill1304]

Taofledermaus has been a first click KZbinr for years. Good stuff on your channel too. I subscribed. I hope you will team up with Jeff & The OG again soon. God rest Danny, gone too soon. Much respect from Kansas.

[@screwyu1329]

Good on ya girl. Top marks for taking on the challenge.👍

[@majster_styl7712]

I clicked on this video without even realizing it would be the biggest crossover of KZbinrs I watch I’ve ever seen 😭🤣

[@Chualland]

100% of the time, no exceptions. That is the proper way to respect firearms. That and always to see if it is loaded even if someone tells you it is not

[@nobodynoone2500]

This was a way more badass follow up than I was expecting. Never change.

[@engrs4wrd2]

I'm glad to finally see the end result of these two great channels coming together. I like that you were willing to learn to shoot from OG and Jeff; as well as putting your dress and panels to the test. Great job all the way around.

[@farmboycharlie6543]

Looks like you guys had a lot of fun. Thanks for sharing a range day maybe it will help with the stigma and divide.

[@smithno13]

Taofledermaus was probably the best collab you could've picked. They shoot a lot of wild stuff but they're always very technical about it, rather than the other gun youtubers that do silly stuff like "How much mayonnaise does it take to stop a 50cal?"

[@notfeedynotlazy]

Taflodermaus does science (ballistics science included) instead of "SCIENCE!"

[@ETC_Rohaly_USCG]

Or as Destin and Smarter Every Day showed recently. How to vaporize Mayonnaise with a Mach 1+ baseball… lol!

[@mduckernz]

@@ETC_Rohaly_USCG That was more of a side effect, for the lols. The actual thing they were doing was characterising the relationship between supply pressure vs vacuum pressure vs velocity, and velocity over time for a baseball in supersonic-sonic region

[@ETC_Rohaly_USCG]

@@mduckernz Hello fellow Matt. I was just mentioning it to be silly, and promote another channel, but then you had to go and be all scientific and such… lol! Comments for the Algorithm Pineapple Horseshoe Umbrella

[@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721]

"Is mayonnaise -an instrument- bulletproof?"

[@mikedrop4421]

I feel like a real insider since I got to see the behind the scenes videos already since I've been subbed for years now to Taofledermaus and the guys Officer "OG" Greg and Danny (RIP Danny you died pretty, as everyone should). You guys learned how to shoot well very quickly. As someone who's done quite a bit of target shooting and some competitive shooting I was impressed by your performance.

[@BasedBidoof]

It's awesome you collabed with TAOFLEDERMAUS

[@terrymcdade1888]

Congratulations. Well thought out test on different kinds of materials and assembly. It was different than what I thought it would be.

[@rh5563]

I have been waiting for this ever since I saw a snippet on OG’s show. You did well on the range, especially if that was your first time. 👍👍👍 Any friend of Taofledermaus and OG is a friend of mine. I finally got to see Jeff and put a face to the voice. You look like you have done some other cool things on your channel as well. Subscribed.

[@SDMacMan]

Epoxying the Kevlar Is what made it ineffective. Kevlar's effectiveness comes from being able to move and flex with the projectile, absorbing its energy.

[@joeparadis5534]

I'm also a huge fan of TFM and Officer Greg (R.I.P Danny) and have never see the man behind the camera till I watched this. I love watching your videos and content you make Xyla keep up the awesome work with putting out this awesome content.

[@grimfpv292]

This was really really interesting! For figuring out the properties of these materials, this was really helpful! Thank you very much for the video!

[@deedeeko9]

Very nice that you contacted another of my favourites, Jeff and OG are so cool for taking you along!

[@AddisonButts]

xyla's little dance when she hit the target is gonna turn me straight

[@OGsDangerShow]

😆🤣😆🤣😆👍

[@otakuribo]

ngl it made me a little gayer 😩💕

[@rrangel1968]

hahaha!

[@greencreekranch]

Seriously, range dates are awesome. There's actually a great video by the legend paul Harrell on how to make sure your date enjoys their first range trip

[@GTAVictor9128]

@@greencreekranch Sounds like the most American thing ever 🤠

[@rhenry7949]

I love seeing young and old KZbinrs working together this was my favorite you tube video of all time!

[@CheekyPseudonym]

O.G. is the man! Can't wait to watch the training video

[@awolfalone2006]

Glad you linked up with Taofledermaus for this. Having people with experience there with you was a good idea. Don't make this a one time collaboration.

[@PsychoticBovine]

I loved that Tao and OG taught you to shoot! You are so bubbly!

[@thecheekyweta742]

Excellent experiment. I particularly enjoyed the slo-mo of your recoil face after shooting the nine

[@isoinsignia7540]

Glad to see you got with TFM! Helping to put a positive light on a sport and way of life that often has many negative connotations associated with it

[@nitrovadox]

I hit the like as soon as I saw that you had a real instructor teaching you. Great way to start off the video. Thank You.

[@Ibewsparky68]

That's neat that you were able to contact Taoflegermaus and do this proper. I love the fact you sought proper training before shooting. I had not seen your vids before but will look forward to checking them out.

[@coltonpeacy7556]

I absolutely love this!!! Fantastic work on this!!!

[@SubieNinja]

2:15 i ABSOLUTELY noticed that! good job on the barrel discipline

[@jcims]

This is absolutely amazing Xyla! Love the colab with Jeff, I've been subscribed to his channel for probably ten years and this is a perfect fit. It's really cool to see another side of OG, he seems like such a natural trainer and you did fantastic! Move to LA keeps on paying off!!!

[@AdmiralThumbs]

Nice collab! Appreciated you showing this can be done safely and responsibly.

[@JavierChiappa]

Man, shooting at your project with taofledermaus it's an honor! well done

[@AdarColussi]

Cool! some of those plates were impressive! very nice to see a TAOFLEDER Crew collab.

[@jamierichards27]

Awesome video! It looks like you all had a lot of fun! Plus this might be the most I’ve seen Jeff from taofledermaus in front of the camera, not behind it!

[@misterb6839]

Always great seeing people learn firearm training and trigger discipline! New to the channel, honestly with your research I suggest giving the ball dress another go! I think this time you could technically make it bullet proof! 😁

[@mystikaltread5199]

Appreciate the effort, you're always entertaining!

[@R0bobb1e]

I really like it. It was great that you went with the results and you were just happy about the science! I get why you and Derek are friends... :) Peace, love, tranquillity and harmony to your whole community!

[@gotindrachenhart]

TAOFLEDERMAUS sent me here and I have to say this was a fun video. You guys did great on the range. I'd say your panels are bullet resistant at least for low power rounds. Having watched a lot of Jeff's channel and they're similar experiments it's all just trial and error. But you're off to a great start and no better channel to team up with than TFM if you wanted to try it some more. Great video! :)

[@alphatripduce]

Gregg is one of my favorite gun KZbinrs so cool that you collabed

[@OGsDangerShow]

Thanks Yodastien. It was a blast having her and Joe up to our place to shoot.

[@ecalzo]

Happy to see Officer Gregg here to teach you Guys .. He's a nice one..

[@quitethemike]

Nice demo! Thanks for taking it to the range!

[@trancethan]

When you said we’re here with taofledermaus. I was like….what??? So bad ass Officer Greg helped you. Great guy

[@tommartinez62]

taofledermaus groupie here, I loved this video, and I am so glad I found your site through his. Your tenacity, when you decide you want to do a thing..... I'm hooked, I call you the canoe girl.

[@hawkknight4223]

Awesome video! You should definitely do more like this!

[@mpdavis731]

Love seeing this - been a sub of TFM and this channel for a while - nice collab!

[@NOLAfugee]

So that's what Jeff looks like. Next do something with the Lock Picking Lawyer so we can finally see his face.

[@cericat]

That's probably never going to happen, just because of LPL's day job. I'm sure he'd enjoy the game of debuffing every polished surface and staying out of frame though. On a related note how the heck is it we all pretty much sub to the same people? Because I'm willing to bet you follow Deviant and Forgotten Weapons as well.

[@eliobonalde]

Oh! There we can see the elusive Jeff in his natural environment! 🙌🏻

[@DreadPop]

Found you via the 2021 Secret Santas and love your channel & energy! All parts of this video were awesome, from the dress design to the scientific method of testing it on location. Bravo!

[@roelwieggers4181]

I like these kind of collabs. Nice to see Joe there too.

[@radben951]

So, that's what Jeff looks like!

[@bigiron9345]

I too had pondered this for a while

[@LeonardChurch33]

That's what I was saying! Idk that we've ever seen him on his channel. Certainly not in any of the videos I've watched.

[@OGsDangerShow]

@@LeonardChurch33 go see my behind the scenes for this video. You get to see lots of Jeff. More than anyone ever asked for.

[@chuckaddison5134]

I think this is the first time he's appeared on video for more than half a second.

[@mikhielthorsson6033]

@@OGsDangerShow, I don't think for as long as I've been watching TAOFLEDERMAUS that I've ever seen Jeff. I'll definitely check out your video of this shoot. And Greg, every one of your videos are great as well. They're funny, informative and impart your knowledge and passion for shooting sports. From a 27yr Army Veteran, thank you for your service.

[@Rickmakes]

Great to see you team up with Taofledermaus! I hope we see you on one of his videos. I wonder if loose kevlar is better or worse than epoxy impregnated kevlar.

[@JohnBrown-bx5rc]

It was great to see you with Jeff and OG (Officer Greg. Loved the video and your initial reaction when firing the Glock 19X.

[@methanial73]

You deserve many more subscribers. I hope your channel grows much more!