Does Scotland have its own deities?

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Kris Hughes

Kris Hughes

Күн бұрын

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0:00 intro
1:50 The Scottish melting pot
2:42 A little history
6:30 History summary
7:08 Widespread deities
7:25 Manannán
7:41 Maponos/Mabon
8:03 Brythonic and Goidelic coexistence
9:22 Culture vs national borders vs language
10:11 Exclusively Scottish deities
11:44 Scotland is welcoming

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@KrisHughes
@KrisHughes 6 ай бұрын
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@Alasdair37448
@Alasdair37448 Жыл бұрын
What's funny about that is modern pagans trying to categorize these native belief systems and being like oh I follow the Irish deities therefore I cant follow the Brythonic or Norse ones, when the pagans themselves did not do this. A pagan in Ireland that heard about a deity they liked from Wales would not have said Oh I cant follow this deity cause I'm Irish not only did that label not exist yet it goes against the nature of polytheism. Its far more likely that the deity would have been changed just slightly so that it would fit in with local tradition and many gods of the old world are believed to be just that different interpretations of the same deities.
@Manoatevarua
@Manoatevarua Жыл бұрын
The Romans and Egyptians are the prime exemple of this They took many deities from surrounding nations and converted them into their culture to fit in It is still happening in modern pagan nations today like Thailand, Japan, China… in which you can see culturally fitting representations of Indian deities due to the influence of Buddhism
@reece3163
@reece3163 Жыл бұрын
I found this helpful. Thanks
@Arthurian_Rabbit
@Arthurian_Rabbit Жыл бұрын
You say "funny", but...
@lauradooley6578
@lauradooley6578 8 ай бұрын
Given that Gaels Gauls Picts Welsh ect would of likely had a similar pantheon just by different names like the Romans Greeks and Egyptians god's practically being the same with different names and some having the same/different roles in each cuktures
@invadertifxiii
@invadertifxiii 5 ай бұрын
Thats exactly how I view it, 😢some modern pagans like to separate it and look down on folks who pray or worship deities from different pantheons -eclectic pagan
@waterfall6782001
@waterfall6782001 15 күн бұрын
Thanks so much for this video! This time period is so confusing, and its difficult for us to understand a world that had flexible borders and true polytheism when we are so used to putting everything into little boxes and categories. I'm going to watch this a few times to help make it stick! ❤
@KrisHughes
@KrisHughes 15 күн бұрын
Great observation about boxes and categories.
@invadertifxiii
@invadertifxiii 5 ай бұрын
I love that thought "deities dont have nationalities according to what we know them as"
@jandunn169
@jandunn169 Жыл бұрын
Goddess, I love your wallpaper....thank you for the photos of Edinburgh, home of some of my ancestors. There are often dieties listed in medieval genealogies as well. At least mine mentions Bran and Branwen in Wales.
@KrisHughes
@KrisHughes Жыл бұрын
It's only a wall hanging that I hung up as a background for videos. I was thrilled to get it. It is very easy on the eye.
@websurfer5772
@websurfer5772 Жыл бұрын
@@KrisHughes It's bonny and delightful. I like how the ducks on the shelf seem to fit in with it too. It's cool that it's blue - very Pict/Scottish, I think.
@Davlavi
@Davlavi 3 ай бұрын
Excellent presentation thanks for sharring.
@peterfindlay2756
@peterfindlay2756 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. I have only just found your channel, but, very quickly, you put my mind at rest. As far as I am aware my family home is north eastern Scotland and I have been told that my name is Pictish, which came as a surprise as I thought it was Celtic. Whatever, I have always identified as a Celt, and perhaps have become a little ‘hung up’ on this. However I have fairly recently become a Pagan and feel a new freedom, almost as if I now have wings. In short my view of human spirituality is that it is, in its different ways, global and your talk spoke to me on that level.
@KrisHughes
@KrisHughes Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you found it helpful. Findlay is just an Anglicised version of Fionnlaigh. The name's roots are definitely in Irish and Gaelic, not Pictish/Brythonic. Of course, by the end of the Pictish era they were speaking Gaelic ... People from the northeast would be likely to have more Pictish heritage than those from the south, perhaps, but most people in Scotland are going to have a variety of ancestors. Celtic is an umbrella term - it really refers to a linguistic group, not a genetic one. That includes languages like Welsh, Irish, Gaelic, and almost certainly, Pictish (although there's not much record of the Pictish language to go on). The best take I've heard on having Scottish ancestry is this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZuskqWbr9Kgma8
@peterfindlay2756
@peterfindlay2756 Жыл бұрын
@@KrisHughes Thank you. That was very interesting and kind of you.
@lindaboiteux1758
@lindaboiteux1758 11 ай бұрын
I don't think we can be "too eclectic". To me that means choosing whatever works best for each person. Thank you for this video. I want to hear more from you. (LTB, age 78)
@KrisHughes
@KrisHughes 11 ай бұрын
You'll find lots more videos on my channel. I hope you enjoy them.
@oathboundsecrets
@oathboundsecrets Жыл бұрын
Great video, appreciate the maps
@KrisHughes
@KrisHughes Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm quite fond of maps. Glad you liked it.
@balmbeauty10
@balmbeauty10 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful video! Thank you!
@KrisHughes
@KrisHughes Жыл бұрын
thank you1
@julesjones2442
@julesjones2442 Жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
@KrisHughes
@KrisHughes Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@1amjapan
@1amjapan 7 ай бұрын
This was exactly what I was looking for, ty.
@KrisHughes
@KrisHughes 7 ай бұрын
Brilliant. I love it when people say that.
@morebaileyskim
@morebaileyskim 3 ай бұрын
As a Scottish person who has been living in the states for 20 years I can appreciate the small impacts living in Scotland has had on your accent (as I have had the same in reverse). When you say "perfect" for example - it is a perfect Scottish "perfect" :) Thanks for this interesting video!
@oakleafwellness
@oakleafwellness 10 ай бұрын
Interesting video. Thanks for doing this one.
@KrisHughes
@KrisHughes 10 ай бұрын
You're welcome!
@David-mo5jw
@David-mo5jw Жыл бұрын
I grew up in Peebles and wandered the hills and Glen's .Later as an adult and interested in archaeology , history and contact with place, I had a number of experiences at certain sites .One hill fort had what appeared to be its own energy in diety form at another it was a wall of energy .At a particular glen it was Epona.I experienced it as I found it. Others with me would on ocassion be taken up with 🐎 and have experiential changes,situations,and coincidental events of significance appear to link up , which were profound and life changing in a good way.Its hard to explain but I witnessed it my self . Enjoyed your talk and genuineness 😊
@KrisHughes
@KrisHughes Жыл бұрын
Yes. I think I have probably had more "feels" at hill forts than at so-called sacred sites. But also rivers and burns - especially if you walk the same stretch repeatedly.
@David-mo5jw
@David-mo5jw Жыл бұрын
@@KrisHughes for my friend it was a bit more than that ,long story short having changed her first name to the name of a certain hill fort she had decided was her spot the actual spirit of the place introduced it's self on her bus to work by saying your not @#£% I am and proceeded to heal a very old wound she had when she lost something years before .You literally couldn't make it up.
@David-mo5jw
@David-mo5jw Жыл бұрын
@@harrisonofthenorth not really sure what you mean but sc
@David-mo5jw
@David-mo5jw Жыл бұрын
@@harrisonofthenorth not really sure what you mean but Scots is from old Saxon German and gaelic is from Dalriada and both reflect the political changes but the energies of place are still there what ever the language .The fact that place names have not been changed suggests a continuity.
@jamesvaughan8395
@jamesvaughan8395 Жыл бұрын
Your channel is so underrated. Excellent video.
@KrisHughes
@KrisHughes Жыл бұрын
Haha! I'm not sure how I should feel about that. Pleased you think it's a good channel or frustrated that it's underrated.
@jandunn169
@jandunn169 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for your video, this was very interesting!!!! It can be hard at times to know where one belongs when oneʼs ancestors are from Britain, Scotland, Ireland, Wales, Germany, Ukraine, and Native American. I feel my ancestors from all these places but my Welsh ancestor came to America in 1634 and I am connected to the land in America.
@wizardoftas7779
@wizardoftas7779 Жыл бұрын
I've come to realise that the reason for purity (Gaels will never be Gauls yadda yadda), is probably a fear reaction to early Wicca (this is the Celtic old religion, blessed be the loving earth mother archetype Morrighan etc). The resulting reconstructionist model with pure lines, useful for starting a scholarly study of a culture, still ends up gatekeeping and rejecting ideas such as historical syncretism and cognates. One that's been circling in my brain lately is the Milesian origin story (Spain or Portugal), and how certain Gaulish gods made their way down there (Sucellus and Lug). Did they get transported to Ireland 🤔 I've often wondered about the similarities between the older Sucellos and the literature era Dagda, but there's a new idea floating around about possible similarities between Morrighan and Nantosuelta (raven iconography, etc). But what makes it particularly peculiar and a hell of a coincidence if they're not related is that Morrighan is paired with Dagda and Nantosuelta is paired with Sucellos. So it's not about finding two deities with similarities, but finding two pairs (FOUR individuals) with similarities. And the Recons I know would reject a connection on principle.
@KrisHughes
@KrisHughes Жыл бұрын
I honestly don't know what to make of it all. There seem to be so many new theories floating around based on (to my mind) very wobbly comparisons. Wobbly, often, because we lost Gaulish myth, and I don't believe we can magic it up through comparative mythology, myself. Yet, so many people are unwilling to look at comparisons between Welsh and Irish texts and folklore which are pretty well documented.
@bomaracev
@bomaracev Жыл бұрын
Completely agree!
@eithnemelee2997
@eithnemelee2997 2 ай бұрын
While Wicca does draw on some historical practices from ancient Irish and Scottish faiths, it was only invented in the 1950s. A good example is the idea of the wheel of the year - Imbolc, Bealtaine, Samhain, and Lughnasadh are actual ancient Celtic festivals, but others like Ostara/Easter never had anything to do with the Insular Celts. It is entirely a modern religion less than 100 years old.
@jigold22571
@jigold22571 Жыл бұрын
Thank You. 💐🕊💐🔥❣️🔥🙏
@brianedwards7142
@brianedwards7142 Жыл бұрын
Very authoritative.
@KrisHughes
@KrisHughes Жыл бұрын
Not sure I'd go that far, but thank you! I did my best.
@jardelsilveira7688
@jardelsilveira7688 Жыл бұрын
I've just bought the book: Celtic Scotland by Ian Armit. Haven't read yet, but by snopse it may be well informative about the ancient Celtic gods who were worshiped there. I've heard Gruagach is said to be an early Pictish deity, that was adopted by the Celts later.
@KrisHughes
@KrisHughes Жыл бұрын
That's a really good survey or Scottish archaeology of the late bronze age and iron age, but you won't find much about deities. Some very tentative speculation about religion of the type fashionable in 1990s archaeology is about all.
@deansky-lucas7880
@deansky-lucas7880 6 ай бұрын
Thank you. I felt you navigated your way really well through the anticipated online turbulence. It’s all thought-provoking and your contribution was authentic.
@KrisHughes
@KrisHughes 6 ай бұрын
Thank you! You put that well. Happily, there's been little turbulence. Mind you, years of practice.
@kellylouisebrown4954
@kellylouisebrown4954 Жыл бұрын
I am Welsh. I have Scottish ancestors on my Maternal side with surname Ross.
@kellylouisebrown4954
@kellylouisebrown4954 Жыл бұрын
Intetesting. As the Scottish Ross ancestor married into my Welsh family.
@hArtyTruffle
@hArtyTruffle 27 күн бұрын
Thankyou :)
@CAMMYSINCLAIR
@CAMMYSINCLAIR Жыл бұрын
Hamish Henderson, in Sandy Bells? Vaguely recognise one or two others.
@KrisHughes
@KrisHughes Жыл бұрын
No - Hamish isn't in this painting, although he could belong in it. It's Hugh MacDiarmid, Sorley MacLean, Norman MacCaig, and a number of other poets. The painting is called 'Poets' Pub'. It's by Alexander Moffat. It hangs in the National Portrait Gallery. The scene had mostly faded away by my time, but you would still sometimes see a few of these chaps about at a pub, or doing a reading somewhere.
@CAMMYSINCLAIR
@CAMMYSINCLAIR Жыл бұрын
Oh aye Hugh MacDiarmid, thanks
@invadertifxiii
@invadertifxiii 5 ай бұрын
I was one of those Americans who thought celtic was the same, i do have irish and scottish ancestors
@johnd8538
@johnd8538 4 ай бұрын
How many fled England to what's now known as Scotland when the Romans advanced north and how many fled west to Wales before that? Scotland is definitely heavily influenced by the Irish....we all got mixed up in the British isles and the fighting that ensued after the Romans left seems ridiculous but it happened.
@betawan3195
@betawan3195 10 ай бұрын
the god mogon stumps me,,, the map of tribes also needs the Gadeni tribe in and around Jedburgh,,,, river Jed = river Gad ,very interesting thank you ,also the river Tweed spawned the name Tweedie ,lore has it ,a funny tale but not for the husband
@theresawrightman3097
@theresawrightman3097 4 күн бұрын
My Husband is a Descendent of Daniel Robbins in Scotland his was Daniel Robertson of the Clan Robertson we did a DNA recently. We we're saw a video about how one of his Ancestors used a crystal ball?? For what reason we don't know ?
@cdw6963
@cdw6963 6 ай бұрын
May I ask why you didn’t bring up the Ossian or fingal? Are they considered fraudulent in Scotland? I heard you mention Finn McCool but isn’t he Irish? It almost seems like the Irish want to claim anything Celtic, even if it originated in Scotland
@KrisHughes
@KrisHughes 6 ай бұрын
Certainly James MacPherson's "Ossian" was a kind of forgery. I wouldn't see Fingal as a deity, myself - just a character of legend. (YMMV, of course!). I think we can safely say that Finn Mac Cumhaill's stories originate in Ireland, in spite of being very popular and well "naturalised" in Scotland.
@connorwheatley5640
@connorwheatley5640 6 ай бұрын
I always saw Ossian as a "forgery" in the sense that it wasn't a translated old manuscript, but rather MacPherson taking the stories he'd grown up with and putting them into a collection of sorts. Regarding the Irish, it's important to remember that their mythology is more accurately Gaelic in nature, so the Scottish and the Manx can claim links to it as well. A big reason it's claimed as uniquely "Irish" is because Ireland had it's Gaelic revival a while back and the stories became a point of pride for Nationalists. Also it's important to remember that Gaelic Myth isn't the only folklore found in Scotland. A strong argument can be made that the heart of the countries cultural origins are in the West and the Northern Highlands, but local folklore is also important, even if it isn't as epic in scope.
@adelemarieish
@adelemarieish 6 ай бұрын
I am currently looking for information on a Goddess associated with a Hare and an apple. She has a tartan plaid over one shoulder and dark hair. Any info would be very appreciated.
@KrisHughes
@KrisHughes 6 ай бұрын
I'm afraid I don't know of anything like that.
@adelemarieish
@adelemarieish 6 ай бұрын
Thank you @@KrisHughes
@shanshine512
@shanshine512 4 ай бұрын
She could be Cerridwen, just from reading her Wikipedia page, she is associated with a man who turned into a hare
@nilcriochgubascelticfolkceltic
@nilcriochgubascelticfolkceltic 11 ай бұрын
But the deities of Gaul Breton Ireland are similar more likely the same the main groups so makes sense we know Dagda is Sucellas Lugh is Lughus there's more lol
@chrystals.4376
@chrystals.4376 Жыл бұрын
There’s similar philosophical issues with how Religion should or should not be defined purely in terms of Ethnicity alone in the Ancient Near East/West Asia and elsewhere, including Egypt. I wish there were more videos like this because while I’m against eclecticism in the sense of being anti cultural imperialism, I do have many problems with the cultural purity views & modern nation state narratives used to define Ancient Religions in Neopagan & Polytheistic circles. ETA: Edited for clarity.
@tmartino9863
@tmartino9863 6 ай бұрын
Is the Morrigan represented in Scotland?
@KrisHughes
@KrisHughes 6 ай бұрын
Not to my knowledge.
@henriettaabeyta1457
@henriettaabeyta1457 4 ай бұрын
Scotland and Ireland have several of the same basic characters and so does Wales.......... Where lots of modern get confused is many don't know Scotland's Otherworld name is Elphame not to get confused the the viking spelling Alfheim, while Ireland calls the otherworld Tir na Nog.
@invadertifxiii
@invadertifxiii 5 ай бұрын
Do u have any good scottish paganism book recommendations
@KrisHughes
@KrisHughes 5 ай бұрын
I'm afraid I don't.
@emx5557
@emx5557 2 ай бұрын
Scottish witchcraft a complete guide to authentic folklore, spells and magickal tools by Barbara meiklejohn free - is a really good book the author is Scottish and has a lot of knowledge and tells stories from her own experiences as well as history ect. Hope this helps ! 🫶🏻
@corablunt-zy2be
@corablunt-zy2be 11 ай бұрын
I'm from england from my Dads side of the family name is Irish and from my mum's side her Dad is Scottish native from the macdonald clan and we have roots with somerland norse Gaelic Lord of the island and I'm a pagan
@Helliconia54
@Helliconia54 Жыл бұрын
the Scotti were Irish,so i would imagine that they kept to Irish panthion. The rest were brythonic celts and i'd have thought that THEY were following their own. Do you think that correct.? That being said, I agree with you,in your views.
@KrisHughes
@KrisHughes Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure that the "Dalriada zone" - by which I would include the northeast tip of Ireland - was clearly Irish or British in its culture. I'm not pushing any big, radical theory with that, just that there seems to have been a lot of contact and travel between there and Islay/Kintyre over many centuries, so things may have been a bit fuzzy.
@caracopland710
@caracopland710 Жыл бұрын
John- have you forgotten that the very name Scotland comes from princess Scotta whom eloped from Egypt? That kind of adds a whole new foundation in my (autistic) mind and am new to this research but after studying symbols and words quite a while I do feel it’s worth not forgetting and making those connections to sun and set worship and of course the numerous ancient powers. Did you have any Scottish ones in mind- the god Py/e after 3.14 comes to mind for some reason also but possibly because I’m born in Dundee however hailing from Keiss these days 😂🧡🌈🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🔥 just liking a decent conversation no offence nor prodding intended ✌🏻
@websurfer5772
@websurfer5772 Жыл бұрын
@@caracopland710 Fascinating info. I appreciate it.
@brucecollins641
@brucecollins641 8 ай бұрын
@@KrisHughes the scotti is a mythical tales written by medieval irish monks to create an history for ireland.....it's written and pronounced gallic in scotland coming from the gauls/gall from the frankish region of europe. the would after a few generations crossed over to ireland here's the origins of the "gaels" in ireland. type in.....who was queen scotia princess scotias grave and other facts guide to life......cruithine were also scottish. dalriada most likely originated in scotland and spread to ireland.
@jocr1971
@jocr1971 Жыл бұрын
my son just got back his dna results. it was completely unexpected. i was always told i was french and italian with a smattering of irish...well my boy's results show he is 34% french and 16% scottish. apparently i have zero italian and not even a smattering of irish but a considerable amount of scottish. now i really need to get myself tested to see what's what.
@mirandagoldstine8548
@mirandagoldstine8548 8 ай бұрын
May I ask which part of Ireland your ancestors were said to have come from? There was an attempt by the English government in the early 17th century, if I recall correctly, to make Ireland Protestant via colonization. I know Northern Ireland is reflective of that period in history with the heavy Protestant population so maybe technically you are of Irish descent, just not genetically.
@jocr1971
@jocr1971 8 ай бұрын
@mirandagoldstine8548 , no mention was ever made of where in ireland. the family is predominantly french so nobody much cared about the rest. my grandmother was adopted into a french family. it seems she is where the scottish comes from. which makes sense for the % percent that my boys each have. i'm still not tested yet but would guess i'm close to 50/50 french/scottish. which does kind of make sense if my grandmother's heritage is from nova scotia. it's just a short sail from nova scotia to tres rivieres.
@mirandagoldstine8548
@mirandagoldstine8548 8 ай бұрын
Ah. That would explain a good deal. I was asking because I was curious if your family perhaps had a connection to Ulster. @@jocr1971 Definitely do a genetic analysis. It will help fill in gaps but it might also raise more questions. That’s what happened when my family and I got our DNA analyzed. It confirmed what I was told and what my folks and I thought the results would be but also raised a huge question on my mom’s side.
@user-od5fh3gn4d
@user-od5fh3gn4d 7 ай бұрын
Those tests can drastically overestimate English/Irish/Scottish ancestry in people who are German/French.
@jocr1971
@jocr1971 7 ай бұрын
@@user-od5fh3gn4d yeah. i know that the whole of the northwest is a confusing genetic mix after so many invasions and migrations.
@olivergarden6481
@olivergarden6481 Жыл бұрын
This was great, I think you did a wonderful job of highlighting the layering and complexity that exists in Scotland due to the way cultures/languages have waxed and waned throughout our cultures evolution. Not that I’ve experienced first hand, but as a first generation disporia from lutruwita (tasmania, australia). But that’s also the feeling I’ve gotten as I’ve begun to learn. To draw from one and only one, feels quite forced. To me it the gods/goddesses are experienced in relation, that they will meet you where ever your at, so long as you take the time to get to know them and learn as much of their surviving lore from those who do live on the lands they come from. As someone who has a Scottish mother and a English father, and being a transgender 7th child, I feel that I swim in a space very much full of liminalitay and that Scotlands future has space for all these expressions of deity, so long as one uphold our beliefs of hospitality. As a member of Clan Macdonald of Clanranald I’ve also found a profoundly healing story related to St Julian, though I don’t connect with the bible much at all ☺️ clandonald-heritage.com/the-legend-of-st-julian/
@KrisHughes
@KrisHughes Жыл бұрын
thanks for your lovely comment!
@wizardoftas7779
@wizardoftas7779 Жыл бұрын
Another from lutruwita. Was looking at something on SBS last night about an individual taking trains across Scotland, and I noticed that a lot of it reminded me of Tas. Except we lack passenger trains. Need passenger trains.
@easttowest7839
@easttowest7839 Жыл бұрын
Hi Kris, I'm a person obsessed with Irish history and mythology, to the point that I've published a book on the topic. However, I have a problem: I have never felt on comfortable terms with modern Paganism and Wicca. This is an issue because a good portion of my book's audience are Neopagans and Wiccans, and I'm concerned that it would damage my relationship with these people if I was honest about my hang-ups and skepticism towards their spiritual practices. I don't want to be rude but I'll be honest: I roll my eyes every time I hear a modern person described as a "druid," because I have trouble believing that there is any genuine or authentic line of tradition from pre-Christian druids to these people today, and without that authentic line of tradition it just feels like cultural appropriation and silly role-play. Further, I'm frankly exasperated if not indignant whenever Neopagans and Wiccans make a claim to having a special say in what is done with ancient heritage sites like Stonehenge, it comes off to me as quite entitled. Further, I feel that Neopagan and Wiccan communities are a huge source of misinformation online for people who are just trying to learn about ancient mythology and history. An example of this misinformation is a layperson trying to research the matter of Celtic creation myths, finding the dross about Danu or "Eoicha" the horse and so on, and being told by whatever website they're on that this is "The Celtic Creation Myth." I know that there are individual Neopagans and Wiccans who are great scholars and know their stuff but as a group is sometimes seems like they just make stuff up and call it "mythology." To complicate all of this further, Neopagans and Wiccans are so decentralized and individualistic that it's difficult to address them as a movement. In short, I have a few frustrations, and a general intellectual block when it comes to taking Neopagans and Wiccans seriously. I just like history and mythology. But the trouble is that the success of my writing so far is owed in good part to Neopagans and Wiccans, and I don't want to disrespect them. I feel that I can't move past my hang-ups unless I can find a patient Neopagan to talk it out with, but I'm concerned about causing offence. If you could point me in the right direction to find a productive conversation about this I'd be grateful. Best wishes
@KrisHughes
@KrisHughes Жыл бұрын
It's an increasingly significant question in areas like Celtic Studies and archaeology. It's not something that will be resolved any time soon, I don't think. I share some of your frustrations, but so do a substantial number of neoPagans. I've chosen to put my energy into getting better information out about Welsh and Irish myths and deities, while try to do that in a sympathetic way - easy since I'm also a paid-up neoPagan myself. You just have to pick your terms of engagement, I suppose. One person who has a formal background in Celtic Studies and isn't a Pagan is Gwilym Morus-Baird, who has a channel here called Celtic Source. Most of his audience is Pagan.
@easttowest7839
@easttowest7839 Жыл бұрын
@@KrisHughes Thank you for the reply! And it seems you took my post in the most charitable way, but I do want to make clear that I don't mean to express contempt or animosity in any way towards Neopagans and Wiccans. It simply feels like there is an honest dialogue between Neopagans and "secularists" that needs to be had to sort out some understandings.
@KrisHughes
@KrisHughes Жыл бұрын
@@easttowest7839 I think what is needed are people who are able to moderate or move between the people doing scholarly work for its own sake and the Pagan community. Actually, their numbers are increasing, slightly. By the same token, Neopagans need to remain aware that history, mythology, anthropology, etc are not hard sciences and you cannot take the statements of any one individual academic as the final word on anything (Celtoscepticism or Celts from the West for example). Scholarly theories get aired, some stand the test of time and peer review, there are fashions, and there are sometimes agendas and prejudices at work. In the current climate, institutional academics tend to play it safe with their areas of inquiry unless they are very senior, or perhaps seeking the limelight.
@jogib3067
@jogib3067 Жыл бұрын
I think the trouble is that as we have free will and faith/belief is something that 'feels' right to us - a tenet that one person thinks is ridiculous could be another person's cherished belief..... We just have to learn to respect every other person's belief - whilst holding fast to our own... I identify as a pagan and would describe myself as animist and eclectic - but I don't see any other person's beliefs as wrong or silly - I just accept that whatever we perceive as deity/god/s/creatix/beloved is a valid facet of 'what is'..... It is eternally interesting and intriguing how humans have different beliefs and how some of us change over time and others don't, how some need to have a belief set in parameters whilst others prefer a personal connection.... We are all so different - yet so alike!! I also have a huge interest in history, pre-history and the beginnings of belief/religion etc in humanity - I spend lots of time reading about it and months cycling around looking at the remnants of the past - this summer it was following the Pictish stones up the east coast of Scotland and back down the middle - hundreds of enigmatic stones (and much else!). I am still no closer to understanding what the Picts believed - or indeed what their wonderfully carved stones depict...... But I have a deep respect for them. Somehow - by travelling as a pilgrim along the old ways and seeking out the past - it deepens my own belief and faith without 'borrowing' from their culture - it is like travelling in tandem..... we all walk a slightly different path but we are all heading the same way.....!!
@easttowest7839
@easttowest7839 Жыл бұрын
@@jogib3067 that's nice but your sentiment does nothing to fix all the historical and mythical misinformation that's irresponsibly spread by pagans on the internet, nor does it address any of my other very real concerns. We don't know everything, but that doesn't mean we can just go making stuff up and acting like that's the truth. Some pagans blur the lines between academic fact and their own beliefs in very irresponsible ways, and that's simply not okay for the rest of us. Don't ask us to just put up with it. Your community needs to improve its conduct and be more considerate of non-pagan's journeys to educate themselves on REAL facts about Celtic mythology. You have a right to your beliefs, you DO NOT have the right to misinform the rest of us when we're just trying to learn about actual history and mythology. If you're not one of the pagans who spreads made-up stories on the internet then I have no problem with you, carry on in good health.
@90sHouseBoy
@90sHouseBoy 8 ай бұрын
Sorry being a Glaswegian I would think Edinburgh is not so much the city of the deities. Try Glasgow and the highlands and lowlands.
@KrisHughes
@KrisHughes 8 ай бұрын
No need to apologise for being Glaswegian - we cannae help where we're born.
@90sHouseBoy
@90sHouseBoy 6 ай бұрын
@@KrisHughes am no apologising fur were am fae. Never would. Just spitting facts Mo Chara.
@JohnDoe-pd2lh
@JohnDoe-pd2lh 3 ай бұрын
​@@KrisHughes Quite possibly the funniest response I've read in a very long time.
@robertmaceanruig6291
@robertmaceanruig6291 9 ай бұрын
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@invadertifxiii
@invadertifxiii 5 ай бұрын
Is there a scottish mother earth goddess
@KrisHughes
@KrisHughes 5 ай бұрын
Opinions vary. I would say - probably not in the sense you mean it. Local sovereignty goddesses, yes.
@invadertifxiii
@invadertifxiii 5 ай бұрын
@@KrisHughes can I ask the local sovereignty goddess if u don't mind
@henriettaabeyta1457
@henriettaabeyta1457 4 ай бұрын
@@invadertifxiii A simple way to research this is if you know Brigid's scottish name, she's the primary one in Irish myths. These Mother Goddesses are numerous, in Europe's untold history they're countless.
@heraldeventsandfilms5970
@heraldeventsandfilms5970 8 ай бұрын
No. Drivel. That's it.
@kerrieannebaker8595
@kerrieannebaker8595 21 күн бұрын
@kerrieannebaker8595
@kerrieannebaker8595 8 ай бұрын
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