Does Spider-Man 2 (PS2) Hold Up?

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[@Burback]

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[@reubsw5734]

Nice

[@SlippyBoyOfficial]

Very nice

[@tipicultz6038]

Try spider man miles morales ps5 its amazing

[@Cardboard_object]

Boop

[@badascan8910]

For the first year i listened to gun and edgey , I legit thought toni(ey?) was a bit.

[@drewisgooden]

BURBACK! BURBACK!

[@cannedsas]

Wow, this dumb comment gets a heart? Sounds like Eddy/Tony is playing favorites

[@hambones59]

Dreew

[@badollies]

@@cannedsas *distinguished comment

[@andrewgreiner4681]

@@cannedsas cry about it

[@wrenren2112]

GOODEN! GOODEN!

[@badatpc]

Hearing that kid yell "COME BACK! MY BALLOON!" just unlocked a deeply repressed memory

[@sicthemutt]

i feel you

[@cameronpalmer7394]

Absolute ptsd I hated that little girl

[@bloodnivel70]

MUH BALLOON!

[@GamingintheAM0801]

The Spider-Man game that came out the next year (Ultimate Spider-Man) has a moment during the Venom tutorial where it instructs you to eat a child to regain some health. That child is holding a balloon. They knew.

[@bbtank3000]

@@cameronpalmer7394 Same here. Especially if you didn't get the balloon in time, and she started crying. Would piss me off so much.

[@squishier8]

If I remember correctly Spider-Man 2 also had a manual web slinging setting which enabled you to control his left and right hands individually. It was more immersive and allowed you to suspend yourself between two buildings which my 10 year old self thought was sooooo cool

[@mgf909]

I still love that. It takes time to master but once you do, the immersion is so awesome. I wish they had done something like that in Spiderman 2018. Hopefully the newer Spiderman 2 game* Can allow that option.

[@Yitzaak]

See, that's how I always remembered the controls being, but I wasn't sure, cause the last time I played it was probably 15 years ago. I miss this game though, it was definitely one of my favorites as a kid.

[@gmgmoney60]

Was just about to comment that they missed to mention that. That was a great feature

[@kluvsank78]

This. Totally agree!

[@rasheemthebestfirstone3274]

Definitely I finished that game too

[@REALROCKFM]

14:29 I just love how he repeats himself as if no one heard him over the sounds of being beaten to a bloody pulp

[@IbexGundyr]

I love that it’s you two both narrating and kinda talking to each other, feels very natural. Keep up the good work boys.

[@godzelda123]

It definitely gives the channel a unique feel

[@jackbarnhart4661]

Agreed, it's a lot more like a casual discussion than just a singular voice. And while both approaches are great, it really makes this feel like an organic, relaxing conversation with a unique feel.

[@chumuheha]

it feels like eddy and tony have cornered you at a party while you're trying to go take a pee but you can't find a way past them and you just have to quietly piss your pants as eddy and tony talk about a game you've never played

[@seanonraet8327]

@@chumuheha that's why I'm here

[@takehirotaniguchi6271]

It reminds me of Mouth from Baki 👌👌

[@mrsundaymovies]

I think like how you mentioned the fall damage missing from 2018 the new games would benefit from some consequences as a result of messing up whilst web swinging. You can literally leap from the highest point in the city, not touch a button and you'll automatically land safely. Having some element of danger (even slight) could make a huge difference to the thrill of traversal. Thanks Burbacks!

[@yaboytroy357]

Never thought I’d see you here. My KZbin worlds are colliding.

[@BardyParty]

Just finished your podcast 2 minutes ago. Love whenever you shout out Nakeyjakey and Eddy on there!

[@FGHHJazz]

woah mr sunday movies

[@colincormier19]

Hello James! Nice to see you here

[@Greigames]

Dude I kept saying the fall damage thing and everyone I knew said I was stupid. I’m so glad someone else gets how important it is to exciting web swinging

[@bluecollarmenproductions]

The throwing them up in the air constantly even after they’re fainted is amazing

[@MichaelHrusovsky]

To me, Spider-Man 2 is the master’s version of web swinging. The velocity, the speed, the different tricks you can do, and I remember a really handy technique where if you are going full speed and start wall sprinting just as you are about to go past a building, you go FLYING at an insane speed. Very helpful when doing the pizza deliveries or Daily Bugle assignments. The physics are not a problem at all once you master the swinging. I liked PS4’s swinging, but it was just so barebones and just doesn’t have that satisfying speed. Also, SM2 lets you shoot 2 webs out at the same time, so it’s already a winner for me. Oh yeah. SM2 also has Bruce Campbell. Easy win.

[@hadrien26]

Yes, this! Shooting two webs at the same time was so much fun. I loved how you could released one slightly before the other to influence your direction mid-air. It was one of the first thing I check in the Ps4 version and quickly felt like 'oh snap, they didn't do the two web thing'. For all the good stuff they come up with to make the swinging smoother and fun, it quickly felt like it's lacking depth and controls. Being able to speed up during a swing was also very fun and missing in the new game definitely. I really hope they go further in the next game, add more depth and subtilties in the control. They have a great foundation to build upon.

[@mrhopadopalus]

Yes the cannonball

[@thecookj454]

spider-man 2 probably has the most fun web slinging but you still find your self running into walls a lot and that can be really annoying

[@yourfatboy5359]

Web of shadows also had a lot of web tricks and speed

[@MrSPIDEY21]

@@thecookj454 amazing Spider-Man was good and spiderman 3 for 360 was a better version of sm2

[@Sunbather620]

Love the video and def feel like this could be a whole mini series of the channel looking back at that era of movie tie in video games (Enter the Matrix, King Kong, The Lord of the Rings games, The Mummy, Catwoman) and see if they hold up. Keep up the good work fellow Illinois Bois!

[@piagebot2943]

The Spongebob Movie for the original Xbox👀

[@thegloobster]

They gotta hit up Lawnmower Man for the Super Nintendo.

[@chickentendies7023]

I forgot how unreal King Kong was for the ps2

[@willschuster471]

King Kong was amazing as I remember it. They need to play through and see if it holds up

[@nickh9977]

Don't forget Robots and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory

[@B0NUKA5]

The pizza time music gets me every time. The first time I heard it during Eddy's stream I thought he was just playing meme music off of youtube. when I realized it was the actual game audio I lost my mind laughing

[@turtlezinthesky]

I liked the swinging in the insomniac games, but I honestly felt limited. I wasn't mastering anything because it was designed to be easy. It smooths everything out and literally won't let you mess up. Swinging in Spider-man 2 is difficult, but SO REWARDING. And you can go significantly faster with enough skill.

[@dapperfan44]

You approached the swinging the wrong way. The mastery of swinging is how quickly you can get from point A to point B. When you can cover hundreds of feet in mere seconds, it's definitely rewarding.

[@ardentdiplomat6662]

the part where he says that you can speed up midswing is kind of dumb physics wise. I think PS4 handles it better cause you have to time your swings to gain momentum well. just pressing a button midswing to increase speed? nah.

[@turtlezinthesky]

@@dapperfan44 okay, but spider-man 2 can go significantly faster. Insomniac put in a lower max speed.

[@turtlezinthesky]

@@ardentdiplomat6662 it doesn't sound like you've actually played spider-man 2 if you think anything about it is easier than the new game

[@ardentdiplomat6662]

@@turtlezinthesky 12:50 he literally said you can use the sprint button to accelerate mid swing, which doesn't make sense physics wise. You need to have a higher drop to accelerate faster.

[@AdamLuke]

This game is one of the greatest of all time, no questions asked. PS2 era was ELITE.

[@aaaaaaaaaalrightythen9953]

Facts ps2 had some of the best games of all time

[@thegamingprozone1941]

MGS2 and MGS3!

[@aaaaaaaaaalrightythen9953]

@@thegamingprozone1941 those, god of war 1 and 2, gta3 san Andreas and vice city, jak and daxter trilogy, ratchet clank original trilogy, list goes on and on man. There’s way too many lol

[@thegamingprozone1941]

@@aaaaaaaaaalrightythen9953 Yakuza and Yakuza 2

[@NTEDOG561]

The sly cooper series ratchet and clank

[@christiangarrity6889]

Good shit boys, you’re carving out quite a unique style in this saturated genre

[@mattc7005]

What?

[@dancorwin9232]

I REALLY love this style of the two of you talking conversation style. It's got the vibe of those "two people casually talking to each other but it's still an essay about something specific\educational" style podcasts (hopefully you know what I'm talking about) but with the added medium of the video graphics. I don't know if I've ever seen that on KZbin before, but it works super well with this video, and your guys brotherly chemistry makes it absolutely perfect. Would really love if this became your style for this channel from now on!

[@EposVox]

I hadn't actually looked back at this game in a long time. I can't believe how much making the great new game was literally "just re-make Spider-Man 2 a couple generations later"

[@solidmage1720]

This game should be remastered/remade after NWH’s success.

[@soulslayergamer2318]

Come on everyone knows that already.

[@emersonflores9008]

15:31 that little "Woo" soundbite brings me so much joy. I have no idea where it's from, but I love it.

[@silentg6865]

Please do more of “does said game hold up” Would love to see rdr 1 and halo

[@darcy2037]

Answer is yes they do

[@thegloobster]

Do you mean Red Dead Redemption or Red Dead Revolver? Red Dead Revolver was the true first one, but most people forget about that one lol, quite solid game! It'd be more interesting to see if that game still holds up in their eyes because, Red Dead Redemption 1 really isn't that old, I'd consider it at the beginning of the modern era, while the PS2/Xbox that came before it was the weird transition phase

[@ribosomerocker]

halo for sure holds up, its beautiful

[@ginge641]

@@ribosomerocker Yeah there's nothing I love more as a gamer than the exact same room copy pasted over a hundred times across one level.

[@ribosomerocker]

@@ginge641 room? level? i dont think you quite played halo, most of the environment you're in isnt in a building, its more outside, but you do come across some rooms every once in a while, and there arent really levels in it

[@jayme9367]

"oh no my balloon" more like "oh no Eddy and Tony TRIGGERED A DEEP MEMORY"

[@jay-yg2nh]

one of my most treasured childhood games. this was a great retrospective, both insightful and hilarious. can't wait for more

[@tylercraigg5383]

They need to have Spider-Man villains “break out” and roam through the the map. Mini boss fights to keep the game fresh in a new game

[@cltndye96]

Hey its time to listen to my guy Tony and his weird brother he keeps inviting.

[@Tygramzz]

I was born in 1999 and the first Spider-Man game was one of the first ever games I had for my new ps2. I was also 4 or 5, so young I never made it past the first fight mission. This brings back so much nostalgia.

[@bigblueboyscout4795]

I replayed Ultimate Spider-Man a few years ago, and THAT actually did hold up really well. The cell-shaded art style aged a lot better, and the gameplay built on Spider-Man 2 in interesting ways. Also, you can play as Venom and eat the fucking balloon kid.

[@quinlinadair7316]

These games were so fun. I remember my dad being shocked by how good the graphics were on the gamecube lol

[@dudemanofdude]

This was the very first game I ever played, it was on my uncle's GameCube when I was 3

[@23CAREMUCH]

THIS was your first game? Holy shit I'm fucking old...

[@LaughBoys]

“This video really FEELS like you’re watching a video by the Burback bros.” - IGN 10/0

[@samg3456]

Supporting Burback so Tony can move to LA and they can be financially independent from the podcast B)

[@TheBeastExecutioner]

GOOD SHIT. I wish there were more videos about this on KZbin, I put an ungodly amount of hours into this game as a kid. I remember I loved the ragdoll affect so much that I would just climb to the top of the Empire State Building over and over and just jump off and let Tobey splat on the ground like a fucking psychopath.

[@GLJ3838]

I used to jump off to see if I could swing away just in time to not splat 🤣 been so many years though since I played this game

[@akex519]

videos on this channel are like four leaf clovers, they don’t come around that often, but when you finally do see one, it makes your whole day better. keep up the good work boys.

[@JJ-zo7jv]

Still holds up imo. I bought a new PS2 controller and started playing PS2 Spider-Man 2 religiously again for about a month now. I still love it as I did in the day. I really don’t think it’s a nostalgic issue either because I can’t say the same for other old games. I actually don’t like the old Battlefront II as much as EAs if I’m being honest (that’s really unpopular to say). I agree however for the Spider-Man sequel having a halfway automation is perfect. BUT Swinging is still better in the old game for some odd reason. Even colliding into buildings is somewhat okay (although annoying after some time) because it makes the moments where you easily slip through a tricky building super satisfying. In the new game everything is made to be “satisfying” and that makes what should be a challenge, “unsatisfying.” It’s very hard to explain. I need some more weight to the swinging in order to relive that experience. I should be able to almost have a Peter Parker experience; where I work through the challenges and master the art of swinging at a similar learning curve in the movies. Being able to grind a game to be good at it instead of being immediately good is what a video game is all about imo. Without a learning curve, there is no satisfaction.

[@Cassidyhunt]

How do I tell youtube i want more of this, i love how human this feels, very refreshing

[@bellamccord588]

Spider-Man on the gamecube was one of my first favorite games and Spider-Man on the PS4 was one of my little brother's first favorite games.

[@iheartninja]

I was 15 when Spider-Man 2 came out and it blew my mind at the time as well. I remember after beating the game I would just grapple enemies and swing up to the top of the ESB and do the piledriverr move on them from the radio tower on the top down to street level. Peter Parker really got sadistic.

[@josephfabriziodawson5566]

I played that game the day before to prepare myself for Spider-Man PS4. It's one of those games I've played so many times I can pretty much finish it in one sitting. It certainly holds up to this day. Dated? Absolutely. Amazing or even spectacular? Absolutely!

[@TheOperatorOfNight]

When you guys were talking about that bar scene in Spiuder-Man 3, it reminded me of when I saw that movie in theatrs when I was younger and the instant Peter turns around and hits MJ, some guy in the theater, without missing a beat, quickly stood up and yelled "YES" incredibly loud while pumping his fists as if somehow victorious

[@matthumphries]

love the conversational dynamic that having both of you talk creates. loving this channel so far, keep it up burboys

[@NeemaFahimy]

I quote the goons from this game to this day and I can't help it... I'll be in the car with my brother and suddenly look at him and say "I'm gonna be the guy that beat SPIDAMAN" in a bad new york accent. Great video! The duel narration works great and feels really natural!

[@dekugh64]

12:08 Isn’t that the fun of mastering the game? Just like Mario 64, the weird physics is what makes you comeback and the sensation of movement, running in the walls while you are maintaining your full speed is just something that I haven’t feel in a game since ‘04

[@jacobharris5894]

Exactly. It’s like playing a Skate game without being able to fall off the skateboard. Not having the ability to fail negates the hype of successfully cooling off a stylish trick. It may be fun at first but it will make things boring relatively fast and kill the replayabilty of the game. There’s a reason why there is a dedicated speed running community still playing Spider-Man 2 almost 20 later years later. The web swinging has a lot of hidden depth to it that wasn’t even apparent to me as a kid and the skill ceiling is high if you want it to be. I’m not saying there isn’t a dedicated speed running community surrounding 2018 Spider-Man but web swinging doesn’t play a pretty big role at all in the runs, which makes it less interesting to watch. There are plenty of people that love the web swinging as it is however, including me, so they should add difficulty levels to swinging, just like Spider-Man 2 did. That’s a good way to make it accessible to everyone while keeping a high ceiling for dedicated players.

[@youngmillionaire7480]

Spider-Man 2 was the first game that blew my mind. The grabbing enemy’s. Tying them to light poles. Saving people on the ships in the ocean. The kids who’s balloon flies away. Man I wish I could go back

[@MattCV27]

I’m so glad this channel is a thing. Love how seamless the discussion between the two of them is

[@tylersimms8505]

Boys, please do more of this style. Those 15 minutes felt like 15 seconds. Good job, boyos

[@FlipAndLand]

I still remember everything so clearly from when this game out. I was 10 years old. I watched the trailer and my mind was blown when I saw you could finally go on the ground AND you could go anywhere (open world). I waited for what seemed like months for the game to be delivered. When it arrived, I ran upstairs to get the PS2 which I shared with my older brother, only to find what he had broken it from constantly leaving it running all night because he liked sleeping to the ambience sounds. I lost my shit. My parents felt so bad that they bought me my own PS2 the same day and I played the game for hours and hours. The game is a masterpiece. It was such a huge upgrade from the Spiderman games that came before it.

[@Eralen00]

There's a lot to be desired in spider man 2 by today's standards, but in terms of the web swinging, its still unmatched in the feel and satisfaction of the physics based web swinging. The satisfaction when you finally figure out the fastest route to complete all of the pizza missions or the hard difficulty races around the city is almost euphoric

[@jamiesanders193]

Does the greatest balloon retrieval/pizza delivery simulator of all time hold up? Duh.

[@heinrichbuys]

this is probably the most wholesome shit on the internet..

[@iluvtv2]

That kid yelling, "My balloon come back!" Brought back some odd memories.

[@christinahansen8311]

Loved the video! The editing was great and I love the narrating and how you talk to each other. All in all super engaging and entertaining x

[@boi-condrift5129]

This is my favorite game of all time! It started my video game collecting hobby! Still have a shrine to all the different copies I have of this game. Spider-Man ps4 is something I love even more because of this game.

[@reyna4192]

I love these Burback videos, the back and forth narration is really nice and engaging - I've never playing a Spiderman game and I was interested the whole time :)

[@voodoochile8491]

This is the first video of your guys' that I've seen and I love the format. Awesome work guys, looking forward to watching more.

[@thecookj454]

I almost beat the game a few months ago for the first time in years and it was still a great game. I love when the game turns to night time mode as you play through the story and it's not a bad campaign at all for a movie game. If you have a ps2 or a pc its definitely worth a try

[@highgirlfriend]

there's something incredibly unique and wholesome about the editing style. love yall

[@nydalitecrafter]

We all know this entire channel is just a buildup to their one million subscriber special where the Burback Bros lose their minds over the design of Halo 3 for a solid hour. Good stuff btw 👍

[@wafflemaker6590]

Love the dual narration fellas I think this channel is gonna be really fun to watch grow

[@josejalaeno73]

We love you Eddy & Tony ❤️ looking forward to seeing more from you guys but please take all the time you need.

[@squawkspal5372]

This is one of my all time favorite games, I revisited it last year when quarantine hit and I actually listened to your podcast while playing it! Thanks for making this.

[@tonyzambone762]

Loved this game, used to play it all the time on the Gamecube. I loved the webswinging in that game and would just swing around the city for hours. Really liked the combat system too, you could get some great combos going.

[@MombaTrout]

Great work guys, can’t wait to see what you do next as I’m sure the video quality will continue to improve. One suggestion would be to add the chapters to the KZbin player, so you can jump around and see where you are in the video.

[@ozzy6771]

I love this format of you guys taking turns and kind of talking to each other

[@kellytalks3227]

i can honestly say that this is one of the most uniquely produced youtube videos i've ever watched, and for that, i was engaged the entire time. I'm immediately obsessed. I need there to be more content like this all over youtube now. please keep this up, or continue something similar stylistically, becuase i'll watch it all forever.

[@salmonformula4377]

This might be my favorite Burback video yet. Loved hearing y'all interact, added a lot to video.

[@itsjames9803]

Just subbed. Love the way you guys narrate with each other. Super natural, entertaining and informative. Looking forward to watching more of your videos guys!🤟🏼

[@LJC_Art]

love this channel so much :) glad eddy and tony can have fun for a business and all the topics are super entertaining

[@MrYelly]

Remembering when Spider-Man 2 came out, it was peak performance, I was absolutely flabberghasted at how well they managed to simulate the entirety of new york and the swing mechanics. Even if it doesn't hold up today, it lives strong, bold and proud in my nostalgic reptile brain.

[@TerryB2]

I don’t really remember Spider-Man 2(PS2) very well, but Spider-Man 3(PS2) was something I loved playing as a kid nonstop, I remember being able to trigger the black suit and it had crazy combos and Shit my god it was so good. Great vid boys, been here since day one, watching you grow is great. Keep grindin!

[@Methodiev]

Man, I just love your video, it’s actually great commentary

[@xXCLAMPZXxx]

10:20 pizza timer drive him to insanity lmaooooo😂😂😂😂

[@DOSkywalkR]

Haha man crazy, you were 4 when this came out, I was 19 at the time 😄 but I so agree about the swinging, we need a middle ground. I love the new games, but I hate that spidey automatically lets go of the Web when swinging (unless you heavily push the analog stick away from the screen). Nice little nostalgia trip!

[@TheOddSusie]

Here to support the BurBros

[@use_alt_love_287]

Very nice vid guys. Love the commentary and conversational style. Nice narrative flow. And great editing. Keep up the good work. :)

[@lumppump1182]

eddy and tony have such a great dynamic together. that podcast was so entertaining and this channel is too

[@despacereal4097]

I put my UP dvd in the spiderman 2 case and it's been holding it pretty well, if that answers your question

[@trentward5587]

Dude! Tony has such a good speaking voice! I never knew until now. I only knew he edited on other stuff but this was my first time hearing the mythical legend.Keep it up! :D

[@issacswood1679]

Best editing yet, keep up the good work!

[@ivosousa7925]

You guys are awesome, you just earned a new subscriber and I can definitely see you guys blowing up soon

[@annatighe8629]

They had this game set up in the waiting room at my orthodontist’s office. I begged my mom to start making my appointments for 4:30 so I’d have time to play before being seen but I kept my 3:30 slot because 4:30 was always booked by this kid who had the same plan as me. He’d be there by 3:45 and play until his 4:30 and I’m still fucking bitter.

[@samthemessiah9330]

I dont even have to play it again i know this masterpiece holds up

[@harrytodhunter5078]

Didn’t even know you had this channel until now, its great stuff! Cant wait for more.

[@jaredjanzen6481]

This video is exactly what I needed, thank boys! keep up the great work!

[@mrhopadopalus]

I played this game about 4 years ago on my PS2 and I didn’t have some of the problems you guys mentioned like the dodging or the clipping with swinging, I wonder if some issues are caused by the emulator

[@sting7789]

I beat it a couple months ago and dodging is hard but it's skill based. The combat was great though and I love the slow motion. This and Web of Shadows are the two best Spiderman games combat wise. Nothing has ever come close.

[@SteamGrace]

@@sting7789 Insomniac's combat is great, whatchu talking about. I'd say it's better than WoS at least.

[@jonathanw3909]

Great video on one of my favorite games! I think nostalgia does play a part in the acclaim, but honestly time and mastery prevents a lot of bumping into walls and allows you to navigate those initial obstacles with ease and style. Caleb Jablonicky made really a great video comparing Spider-Man 2 and Spider-Man 2018, and one about Miles Morales too, I highly recommend you check them out!

[@christate1714]

10:04 never in my life would i hace thought that this song came from this game

[@face1159]

This my first time watching one of your videos and I already can tell I’ll love them all lol

[@AlexLove631]

Loved the video, lads! Never got the complaint about Spidey PS4 taking the Arkham combat. That’s literally what I want from third person superhero games. That free flow combat is perfection.

[@yourpreston1]

Make this a regular thing. A game a week, this could be awesome. Invite guests on for games you didn't play.

[@ayoitscat]

5:10 is that the audio from that one parent-teacher meeting?

[@FancyJester]

It really feels like you guys are finding your own style of video essay and I love it

[@jinobeano7303]

This was awesome, I think it's important like you guys said to still have it be accessible. It's nice to be able to hand the controller to a Spiderman fan who doesn't play games and just let them swing around

[@hthazee]

so spiderman ps4 was the first spider man game I've played and I was ADDICTED to it! i had no clue about the other ones and hearing yall talk about them so nostalgically really made me appreciate the new one even more. but yeah, older one does look like shit

[@VetRa16]

Your narrating is entertaining and fun to listen to. Keep it up with more games coming!

[@Alex-ec3mq]

Loved playing this as a child. The tossing in the air move was hilarious, it bought time when dealing with a lot of enemies

[@18BossMr]

Glad you got this going with all the Gus stuff going on

[@Username4512IsCool]

I hope you're doing well Eddy Keep your head up king *kisses your forehead*

[@videoquez]

The transition from Peter smacking M.J. across the face to "combat" (5:20) *chef's kiss*

[@emmakitcat]

Love hearing you both narrate! Great video.

[@mattconforti6158]

subbed bc of the editing lmao made me laugh a few times

[@twoodbeats]

4:03 if that was real, he would be seriously hurt 😂😂

[@TheDrTwist]

love my boys making a video again. keep em coming!

[@loganochoa9605]

I was also 7 years old when this game came out and it still holds up as one of my favorite games of all time. Thanks for the great review!!