Does Switch 2 Have 'Secret Sauce' Graphics Hardware We Don't Know About?

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[@thezx5795]

The top usb port is obviously so you can dock upside-down to make psycho mantis throw up

[@thundershocker135]

“Psycho Mantis?” ~Snake

[@Trikenut012]

"I wasn't able to read your mind, your flipped the console"

[@mandlecreed02]

take this cookie for giving me a good belly laugh there 😂🍪

[@SENATORPAIN1]

I was wondering why the top usb is slightly angled thinking maybe it's that way for add ons then I realised it's probably purely so U don't dock it upside down.

[@deviouslaw]

The secret sauce is Nintendo's ability to make complete games with quality. It's almost unique these days.

[@tektight]

Ehhhhh that is slipping these days too (BotW, TotK).

[@GameslordXY]

​@@tektight Vast majority of players would disagree, though you are certainly not the only one.

[@zombl337og]

the one and only thing NINTENDO does right, and the only reason theyve survived this long on NOSTALGIA

[@Ferrichrome]

@@tektight their quality has slipped sometimes but those games are NOT examples of that lol. BOTW and TOTK are some of the best ever

[@carlosflores9890]

@@tektightwhat do you mean?

[@kainairsoft2331]

Yes, it has a 5090ti crammed inside.

[@zombl337og]

5090? try 8090. Nintendo isnt messing around this time! And then add DLSS5 like tech, and its gonna be better than any PC when it launches! PC who?!

[@PizzaFriend]

I heard it has got a TI-83 Plus inside. Huge if true.

[@flyingcheesecake3725]

@@zombl337og HUH

[@djtomoy]

that’s quite unlikely, doing so would make it extremely expensive

[@MrKoArtist]

For $400?

[@VanGtfogh]

I feel like so many people complained about the bottom USBC port because you couldn’t charge the device while propping it on a table with the kickstand, which especially hampered multiplayer use cases when a TV or dock wasn’t available. I assume they added a second port on the top for charging while being used in that state.

[@GameslordXY]

Eh, it might have multiple uses

[@PolitiClank]

Nintendo have been increasingly invested in the principle of multi faceted design. Where possible, they design features (of hardware and with game mechanics) that can benefit the player in multiple ways. As such, I strongly believe Nintendo will use the port in as many ways as proves feasible.

[@EmanueleVaccari]

It will dock like Megazord with other consoles and GPUs. Maybe Microsoft will make a Switch 2 enhancer dock that docks in a graphic card

[@aussieknuckles]

Straight up

[@shinababes]

I always have this problem

[@Ferdinand208]

Yeah, the secret sauce is the software. Nintendo had a 2014 chip in a 2017 device. You either make your game work, or you don't put it on switch. Same for switch2. Either you make it work on a 2020 chip in a 2025 device or you don't release your game for the switch. Switch2: better GPU, better CPU, 3x RAM. If they could make Doom2016 work on switch1, switch2 is going to be way easier to port to.

[@zombl337og]

i dont just want SOME games on a platform, I want ALL GAMES on ALL PLATFORMS

[@EMLtheViewer]

⁠@@zombl337og I understand the sentiment, but it seems that that’s not going to be a reality for a long time, if ever. Some extremely graphically intensive games, especially many VR games, will likely never end up on a battery-powered portable device until the technology improves significantly, by which time our idea of “good graphics” will have moved too, as it has. Regardless of that, Nintendo has always kept their own games on their own hardware, and there is good reason for that both from a business perspective (exclusives sell systems), a development perspective (far easier and cheaper to optimize a game for a single hardware configuration), and a design perspective (games can be designed specifically with the target system in mind, including any unique/uncommon features that may not be on other platforms). I personally don’t mind it (and don’t currently consider it realistic), but I understand why a lot of people want all games on all platforms.

[@stephkm3655]

Tegra X1 is a 2015 chip. T239 the Switch 2 chip was finalised in 2022 and is yet to be released (with the Switch 2)

[@Ferdinand208]

@ it is mainly about the gpu. Maxwell is 2014, ampere is 2020. That you make a soc based on 2014 technology in 2017 doesn’t really make it a 2017 technology right?

[@gabepvpz]

​@@Ferdinand208When you put it like that it makes me wish they used Lovelace instead of ampere but probably the costs were too high

[@canadaman3]

The system will be more than good enough in an era where leaps in graphical power result in slightly more realistic hair.

[@Matt-jc2ml]

It's a lot more than that but sure lol

[@ericd7148]

What I think is often missed is that as the fidelity in a game is increased the dev time & costs increase, proportionally.

[@Alistair_7609]

i was thinking about this earlier. every game made for the ps5 could run on the ps4 with some negligible sacrifices that 99% of people wouldn't notice. if the switch 2 can output at the level of a ps4/ps4 pro, it should be capable of keeping up with current gen

[@Matt-jc2ml]

@Alistair_7609 this isn't true at all. Games that were actually made this gen struggle to run on even the series S. No way something like space marine would even run on a one x or PS4 pro.

[@BynoShadow]

​@@Alistair_7609With most of Sony's PS5 output also running on PS4 (with sacrifices) due to the install base, and the most noticeable jump this generation being storage speed, the Switch 2 should be able to pull off most third-party games at 720p60 if not 1080p60 with upscaling. I don't really care if it does. 4K, as long as it hits 60 frames a second no matter what the resolution is. Dynamic resolution or upscaling and a locked 60 frames a second and I'll play it on the switch every damn time lol. Can't take my Xbox or PS5 or PC on the go, and my steam deck can only target 30fps in most modern games (if they run on there) and if I can push past that, it has to run at 30 fps anyway to get more than an hour of battery life lmao

[@ElCapitanPupuPipi]

Nintendo will always go for value, so people should set their expectations accordingly

[@TonyKanameKuran]

That was then. The time is now for Nintendo to bring back the slogan, "Now you're playing with power".

[@skycloud4802]

Until it comes to the games itself, then it scalps those prices hard. The "Nintendo Tax" joke wasn't invented on a whim. Heck, even the consoles themselves don't depreciate in this climate. Anyone wanting say, Xenoblade 2, are still probably paying about £50 for the privilege.

[@Sly2Cooper]

@@skycloud4802 true. When Nintendo fans say that Steamdeck is (tad) more expensive they tend to forget that price of a console is nothing compared to amount of money you spend on games during the lifetime of a platform. In that sence Switch is probably the most expensive platform out there. Steam offers way more generous prices on sales.

[@Dorgpoop]

Exactly. The price of games is more expensive than any other system, so to compensate for that the hardware should be affordable.

[@CynHicks]

They're the ones that started the whole loss leader thing right. They Switched that up but for decades they were selling high end, top of the shelf hardware for a low price to make money from games.

[@gaminginstilllife9429]

The secret sauce is the people who have been working at Nintendo for years and know how to make a good video game

[@djtomoy]

i’m expecting there will be some sort of blue-tooth excessory that you can insert inside your body and have the game projected into your lucid dreams as you play and it will have 4k rumble

[@BlueRice]

dil doe.

[@CynHicks]

Accept that can't be true because that would be accessivlie reeching.

[@djtomoy]

@@CynHicksneva

[@Trikenut012]

The top port is obviously for the nose hair trimmer

[@GIN-KUN-EX]

it so you can plug in two chargers and charge it twice as fast

[@56ty_]

In hindsight, it was obvious

[@yoel_r_r]

In the age of diminishing returns, the gap between Nintendo consoles and the rest will get smaller and smaller.

[@i8balls]

That's a long time from now

[@francisbureros]

Not a chance. There's still so much room for improvement. The only diminishing returns is between Nintendo consoles.

[@theprfesssor]

Not so fast The current consoles can do 4k or dam close to and do 120fps (they will run GTA 6 as well), if the Switch 2 is everything that's been leaked it's gonna be more comparable to a PS4 in potential with slightly better memory and then some nvidia hocus pocus 4k will likely be upscale/super sampling and let's hope the it will look decent enough when docked

[@JudgeՏamson]

​@@theprfesssor Have you even been watching Digital Foundry videos? Consoles aren't even able to do 1080p. Space Marine 2 runs at 720p/45 Silent Hill 2 runs at 864p/40, Senua's Saga runs at 900p/30. Alan Wake 2, Forspoken, Final Fantasy XVI, Immortals of Aveum, Black Myth Wukong, same thing, sub 1080p resolution on anything that isn't a PS4 port.

[@Matt-jc2ml]

​@@JudgeՏamsonare you talking about series s? And the fact that they run so poorly is even more evidence that there's still a lot of room to grow. If you wanna see where things could go, look up cyberpunk with ultra realistic mods. Even a 5090 struggles to run that at 4k/120

[@KoolAidManOG]

Whatever "secret sauce" they have will be on the back of specialized DLSS profiles for each game. Targeted training data for each game, at least the heavier ones, will do a lot of heavy lifting.

[@Edino_Chattino]

This. So far, we had generic DLSS profiles that fit all PCs. Having the ability to use a custom one for known hardware is a plus. Also, The Switch 2 is certainly able to have software updates on the future with DLSS 5, 6, etc.

[@squand3r]

Tears of the Kingdom proved that Nintendo is able to do the impossible with archaic hardware. The secret sauce is Big N‘s development magic.

[@Alcatraz760]

The only sauce Nintendo I can think of, is the fact the OS barely occupies any RAM compared to the PS5/Series consoles, and the API overhead is low enough that impossible ports exists. Other than that, I didn't see the switch do anything special.

[@ZackSNetwork]

The only secret sauce I could see is it having a custom 5nm Samsung node process. Along with RT and Tensor cores from ADA Lovelace architecture.

[@DoctorRover]

The Secret sauce is not hardware, but software. The Steam deck, Windows gaming handhelds, and the Xbox's OS is a burden to it's software, The Xbox Series X has an exceptional lead on paper, but most real world comparisons typically favors the PS5 in areas simply due to PS5 having a more gaming focused API while the Xbox uses an isolated Windows OS. The Steam Deck's SteamOS vs a Windows OS installation shows a 40% margin of error in performance running the same games. But Proton's compatibility layer falls short to native SteamOS ports. Developers praised Switch's NVN API which has 100% access to the hardware vs Playstation's dual API Gnm (low level typically used for indie games and old 3D software similar to DX10 and older) and Gnmx (High end API, has numerous of debugging features and documentation) If Switch 2's NVM2 offers the same unrestrained hardware access, you should be seeing a little more than what you could get with the same RTX hardware. I believe there will be exceptional games that push the Switch 2's hardware, but I also believe there will be many games that will squander and make the Switch 2 look weaker than it appears. Reminder the Switch 1 can run Crysis 1 with a global illumination solution at a higher resolution and framerate than the 1.7 billion USD revenue juggarnaut Pokémon Scarlet/Violet because they forgot to cull out an ocean that eats 2.8GB of it's 3.2GB RAM.

[@MarauderYT]

Not to mention the skybox being the size of the FUCKING SUN

[@LG555]

So even with Pokémon, RAM was the problem. Why us everyone then still complaining about the CPU and GPU of the Switch.

[@MarauderYT]

@@LG555 because Pokemon is an example of bad optimization; in order to port some more modern games you need a bare minimum cpu power that the switch will never be able to squeeze out in handheld mode, and if it can’t handle handheld it’s not fit to port at all

[@johnclark926]

I think the Switch 2 will get the technical edge over its competitors thanks to its additional Mode 7 capability. Can PlayStation, Xbox, or even Steam Deck hardware affine transform a background layer from scanline to scanline? I don’t think so.

[@marverickbin]

DLSS4 + specifically finetune for each game. High detailed assets will be stored in model weights, don't need to be on game files, and recover at post professing time. Small game files, small rendering target(so higher fps), high details. Don't need extra hardware, just specify the dlss model for each game.

[@MisterPikol]

That'd be very interesting

[@brandonleemoss]

Exactly😮

[@oliz5063]

What does in model weights mean

[@Edino_Chattino]

@@oliz5063 basically the data you use to train your model. If you are running let's say FF7 on Switch2, you can train the model with the best version available and have the model generate the info based on that.

[@MrBlackgobbo]

Nvidia presented the secret sauce: it is called RTX kit.

[@devonvelazquez7882]

They say the secret sauce may be this thing called “IP” it’s a very far fetched rumor but it could just be it!

[@jjcavazos5420]

🤣😂

[@NevermindMe77]

yes you can squeeze some szechuan sauce out of the vent

[@SpencerBadTakeDispencer]

I suspect Nintendos secret sause is more to do with the OS and upscaling tech that they can license from Nvidia and elsewhere, as well as traditional advantages of predictable hardware common to all console systems.

[@moto6981]

Good thing Nintendo fanboys aren’t like Sony fanboys-can you imagine them claiming the Switch 2 is more powerful than an RTX 5090? “Bro, it runs Mario Kart at 6000 FPS with ray tracing so advanced, it renders your childhood memories in 8K.”

[@rickenbacker472]

I heard it has a special 'Mode 7' in hardware that blows the other consoles away.

[@anthonyclayton8283]

And a super fx chip

[@miserj]

Top USB is where you plug in the Virtual Boy headset :)

[@enriquepinero707]

I mean if it is a "secret" then obviously we dont know for sure do we? Even with the leaks, for all we know; it can be running off a minuture hamster running on a hamster wheel; until the thing finally ships and someone opens it up right? That's some power!

[@PetrCobra]

The top USB-C port just solves the need to have the Switch connected to a power source while in the tabletop mode and on low battery. Still need the bottom one for the docked mode obviously but being able to charge the thing in all situations is quite an important feature, and a bit of an embarrassing oversight in the first Switch.

[@jguerrero7033]

Yeah Nintendo kills it with their Software, still playing Smash, Mario Kart and Splatoon daily - No idea how they make things run so well -

[@legendredux1291]

Xenoblade and zelda runs like shit

[@ogre706]

Hopefully it runs games at 600fps because anything less is unplayable for my golden eyeballs.

[@jordanf.6213]

I still think Nintendo might do the Virtual Boy 2 during the Switch 2's lifetime. Like a corded connection like PSVR 2, and using the enhanced joycons. But at the end of the day, Nintendo games having PS4 level power is enough to excite anyone. They always make great games, and now they'll have the power for a handheld to make games on the same power level as like Ghost of Tsushima, The Witcher 3 (on native hardware), and Red Dead 2. That's enough for me.

[@EMLtheViewer]

Not to mention that Nintendo are well-known for their ability to squeeze every last drop of performance from their systems through their black magic optimization, so we can hopefully expect some _really_ good-looking/well-running games with the extra juice.

[@blazing_saddles]

There is a TrackIR device that plugs in to the top of the Switch 2, so you can quickly glance left, right or up to 'view' behind you in Mario Kart 9

[@demo_sphere]

Possibility of a second screen attachment ?

[@hoganzeros3572]

port on top may simply be for having access to it while using the kickstand, also charging while in handheld mode so a cable isn't coming from the bottom toward the user.

[@quajay187]

I think it possible that a separate 'enhanced' deck will be a future option. Like it would have a separate low powerd Tegra with extra Tensor and CUDA cores.. to enhance 4K TV gaming

[@tr1p1ea]

... Maybe look at the sales numbers for Switch 1 vs it's graphical capability.

[@theprfesssor]

If the motherboard leak is true 12gb of memory will be the most important thing for the longevity of the console as well as performance capabilities Devs have shown you can scale to power specs rather well but having insufficient memory can really hinder a piece of hardware's potential especially its future potential just look at the Series S or many modern GPU offerings where memory constraints hold them back Also it makes sense for the new memory to be the newer LPDDR5 compared to the LPDDR4 from the original that also helps a lot.....as its got twice the performance yet uses less power having tripling the memory will have a even bigger potential increase then normal...... definitely interesting

[@Loundsify]

The Switch 2 will also have 4x the memory bandwidth.

[@NaveenLuke]

I’ve always wondered what was different between nvidia shield and the switch. The shield has a really good upscaling algorithm for general video content not limited to gameplay.

[@violent8931]

And Switch have games.. that's why it sold more than Shield

[@Matt__B]

I'm pretty sure that the only secret sauce will be in the software and maybe a few hardware features that enhance the backwards compatibility.

[@walawala-fo7ds]

the secret sauce is first party games

[@DPedroBoh]

The extra usb port is to connect the expansion to sonic 3 so we can play sonic 3 and knuckles.

[@jullicent]

Top usb port will be used for a second screen peripheral that attaches to the top for DS and 3DS NSO games.

[@CaesarIII]

top port is great for charging while playing. that's not as good with the cable coming from the bottom. Same goes with the "place it on the table" mode.

[@dimitriosm86]

I love the almost eye roll, I would give him an raise

[@Linkintime1]

What would it take to have a chip on the dock (sold separately) to boost the power of the output for TV to Pro levels.

[@DannyWilliamH]

4:44 This is the only logical answer to a question that that they, rightfully, didn't take too seriously. If one of those USB ports is TB, you can extend the power and therefore even the longevity of the lifecycle. I could imagine docks that have extra GPU capability built in to service specific titles. Unlikely but we have seen the board. There is no secret chip or special sauce that isn't already built into the SOC.

[@javilink7]

Nintendo has a history of using external attachments to augment functionality or provide additional processing power. Some SNES games (megaman X2, starfox) had co-processors that worked really well with the console. The N64 had the expansion pack to increase RAM. It also had the disk drive attachment in Japan. I don't get the laughter from the DF staff...

[@colinmx.]

Nintendo wont be doing all that extra stuff the switch 2 will be more like an overlooked ps4

[@seeker6755]

I dont care about the graphics those added sauce is just making a game consume so much hard drive space and it easily eats up so much power that drains battery faster. I prefer a game in Nintendo to be in low settings and well optimized for longer gameplay,

[@dreamcastfan]

I don’t think the top port will be used for anything other than making it easy to play in handheld mode with a charging cable plugged in. When it’s plugged in the bottom it’s very awkward to hold the console without the cable getting in the way (unless you have a 90 degree plug on your cable). The Steam Deck and ROG Ally all do it that way but obviously they don’t have to accommodate the simple dock mechanism Nintendo came up with. Plus, anything like a camera wouldn’t work very well if the console is docked and far away from the player. Peripherals that connect to the Joy-Con rails would be more likely to work for both modes. I would like to be optimistic about fun peripherals, but the OG Switch could have easily had peripherals that connected to the Joy-Con rails but we never got anything. Then of course the Lite killed any chance of peripherals by having fixed controls. I hope Nintendo can surprise us, but I think with a (relatively) new CEO, they aren’t going to take chances.

[@phxf]

for the top usb port, i wonder about displays. Nintendo has continually been experimenting with VR, and producing patents around handheld VR accessories too. Maybe they'd jump in to the PSVR2 kind of console VR space with a HMD? I think if they did intend to try it, there would probably be signs in the joycons, like maybe constellation tracking IR LEDs? There might be some appetite in the market for a kid friendly cheaper mobile-grade VR setup that isn't made by a creepy social media company

[@ghaleon128]

The USB on the top is hopefully so you can have the system plugged in while in portable mode and using the stand, is my guess. Having the charging port on the bottom of the Switch 1 was impossible to use if you use the stand.

[@nERVEcenter117]

Yes. The dock has a video decoder and wireless receiver so the Switch 2 can act as an inverted Wii U. They're going to port Wii U, DS, and 3DS games. Count on it.

[@LurkingWeb]

Hard agree

[@thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852]

I'll believe it when I see it.

[@Mimi.1001]

Damn, can't wait to finally see games ported from the Wii U.

[@LurkingWeb]

@Mimi.1001 The only two original Wii U games that really are left: Nintendo Land and Yoshi's Woolly World

[@balthazarbulau4095]

the secret sauce is the vaseline efect on a 4k screen

[@Un1nst3r3st3d]

The questions keep getting creative 😂

[@npancratz]

Thanks!

[@joeyanthony7253]

Still going to run elden ring better then the steam deck lol

[@QuantumChrist]

Far more better

[@kasjamm]

In docked mode. Not sure about handheld.

[@nocfox3050]

​@kasjamm If the og switch is anything to go by, Handheld would probably run slightly better than docked Most games on Switch run better on Handheld than in docked mode but who knows, Switch 2 might do docked really well lol

[@sokarash]

Not sure what people asking such a question expect, except wild speculation. The is probably just bigger because the console itself is also bigger. The only thing I could see is some specialized upscaling hardware in the dock, like Mister FPGA or similar - take the image, upscale it, send it out. But I still think thats unlikely.

[@npancratz]

Not wild speculation, but educated speculation based on what is already known.

[@riekopo7638]

I wish the Switch 2 had at least as many tflops as the PS4 but it will still be enough probably. Because even tho the tflops is lower, it's a much newer and more efficient architecture.

[@Matt-jc2ml]

The deck has 1.6 and its 3 years old. I think the switch can hit it fairly easily. There's a lot of stuff more powerful now

[@Matt-jc2ml]

They're a bit bigger though. But 1.8tflops is doable

[@agtjackbauer]

Couldn't the extra USBC simple be for headsets that use a dongle. How else could you hook it up in docked mode?

[@bern9642]

I think it's for accessories and charging while in tabletop mode.

[@SSukram_]

The dock has usb on it

[@agtjackbauer]

@@SSukram_ but then you're having to switch out to charge your controller, correct.

[@bettybunbun9664]

The top USB port will be used for a second 3D screen so the Switch 2 can be used to played DS and 3DS games for NSO members.

[@Shadi8694]

I was promised a 4k banana. Uuoogh.

[@Shadi8694]

Though on a serious note a new pikmin is going to look astonishing with better feature set. Extra hardware could be a sensor bar for face and hand tracking to play games or be in a hub with miis.

[@NumberFifty1]

My wild speculation is that Nintendo and Nvidia will resurrect SLI and support linking two consoles together in docked mode for higher performance. Hence the real meaning behind the boring Switch 2 name.

[@stephkm3655]

Could you link 2 PS2s??

[@patrikmiskovic791]

Its games , not graphics

[@MrBlackgobbo]

The secret sauce is using the RTX Kit as a baseline, with configurable tensor cores for custom management of AI rendering features.

[@tnutz777]

i wish they would release a home console only switch. if anything, it would be cheaper bc no dock, no display, etc. but the extra usb c would be cool as an interface so we could get some ds/3ds virtual console games. im sure nintendo sees the 3ds selling used for msrp and wants to cash in.

[@Mr3-j4m]

That secret sauce this time around is Nintendo created their own hardware & software solutions that's already patented integrated into Nvidia hardware & software solutions inside the Nintendo Switch 2 👍

[@Matt-jc2ml]

The more specialized it is, the harder it will be for 3rd parties. But Nintendo is mostly 1st party so maybe that will work

[@Cheffy_otto]

I think we even don't know how strong the switch 2 is gonne be, bacause of the third party games that are comming to the nintendo switch 2, phill spencer confirmed that his games are comming to the switch 2 like many more third party game developers!

[@andrewbrooks2001]

Remember when Sega and Nintendo had additional processors in cartridges to accomplish graphics and special effects not capable on original hardware?

[@SSukram_]

The top usb is for the smell o vision

[@toututu2993]

Switch 2 will basically be Switch 1 refresh. Just a smaller specs upgrade compared to Wii U to Switch and people who overhype the thing will be disappointed

[@bonzobanana1]

Nintendo likes cheap profitable hardware so I'm expecting the retail model to probably have lower clocks than we have seen on development hardware. This means longer battery life and higher yields for the chipset. I wonder if the extra power socket is for a VR headset. It seems this generation has the hardware capable of providing some VR experience games. I could see the main Switch display part sliding into a VR headset quite nicely and providing a decent VR experience. Remember how the wii u struggled to even match the PS3 and 360 for many games despite being launched years later. In the end it was confirmed the wii u gpu was 176 Gflops significantly less than 360 and PS3 in raw performance. I bought a Doogee T30 Pro tablet for £60 of Amazon (warehouse) that can emulate some Switch games at full speed.

[@joejoe6949]

The left joy con will dock to a smaller console that will let you play all the old ds game and online subscriptions games. Nintendo is going to call it the switch boy.

[@cyxceven545]

Top USB accessories are a forgone conclusion. If only they'd incorporate the power brick into the stand. It needs more heft to stay planted.

[@ParadoxalDream]

Only having a bottom usb port that prevents you from charging the console while using it in tabletop mode with the kickstand was the biggest criticism people had about the Switch 1 harware, I don't think there's some secret reason for the top usb port this time except to make charging more convenient in all possible situations. Only having one usb port at the top would make the engineering of the dock a lot more complicated, and asking people to dock the Switch 2 upside-down would go against Nintendo's 'intuitive use' design philosophy.

[@warlockboyburns]

top port is probably so you can charge without sticking a cable into your stomach

[@spawnkiller9779]

I mean if it is the t329 or "whatever it was codenamed" chip it would put it around a base ps4 level of performance heavily under clocked like the switch was and then the docked making the performance more in between a ps4 pro and a series s. What core and thread count are they going for because i dont know how their going to pull off 60fps let alone big aaa games in general with engines becoming more resource hungry and ray tracing becomes less of an option and more of a requirement. It could either go in their favor or backfire a few years after its launch with most likely a pro variant with beefier cooling and extra rt cores as well as cpu frequency increase and extra ram

[@GameslordXY]

Nintendo don't need non-Nintendo games. Certainly not AAA games. They aren't very succesful on Nintendo consoles anyways. So who cares if AAA developers are making some games RT hardware acceleration a requirement. Nintendo will manage.

[@stephkm3655]

@@GameslordXY Switch 2 actually has RT cores contrary to the other consoles and Nvidia is alot more ahead in RT than AMD. So I dont know what the person above is talking about. It is probably better in RT than the Series S. I agree, Switch 2 will be fine.

[@spawnkiller9779]

@@stephkm3655 nothing is for sure confirmed yet. 3rd party games don't run well on the switch and it's due to the obvious reason that historically they don't run well and they are heavily downgraded versions typically. Now this would not be the case if they had hardware that could run the games. To say that AAA games don't do well on a underpowered system is...... Shocking .... I own a switch and I play it every day I'm not going to get a switch 2 if it is just going to play Nintendo games that's ridiculous and not at all what the general install base wants at all for the new system.

[@anonwalkerr]

Ther'es no way the top port is just for charging. I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't even have a charging function lmao

[@sklynexd]

I have never seen you live on youtube, where are you streaming?

[@ananasstudio6221]

Well, they made Tears of the kingdom out of a coffee machine hardware

[@theparkbopper]

The secret sauce could be the fabrication it’s not confirmed to be 8nm. (Perhaps new clock modes coming) There is some conflict there. I think the top usb is for Ds and Wii U titles. Also there could be some new dual screen stuff.

[@ZTriggerGaming]

Nintendo has a patent for a second screen that clips onto the top of the Switch.

[@freefallp885]

Hopefully auto upscale on switch 1 games

[@DarthChrisB]

Isn't it funny how graphics that people called *"epic"* and *"photorealistic"* are labeled *"meh"* and *"cheap"* just a few years later? Any argument that Switch 2 is underpowered is moot, because whatever they call powerful now, they will call underpowered in just a few years. They will never be satisfied.

[@Sly2Cooper]

Main problem is that game prices on Switch are not cut down accordingly to reduced graphics quality.

[@ilbroducciore]

@@Sly2Cooper and how is that a problem exactly, if you’re still having the same amount of fun?

[@Sly2Cooper]

@@ilbroduccioreTotK with its sluggish framerate is sooo fun. If bad graphics with sluggish framerate was fun then there woudbe no generation changes and you would still play on NES.

[@mariusmyhre7594]

Those discussions were going on in the 80’s as well, when the 16bit machines turned up.

[@ilbroducciore]

@ sorry bro, sometimes you gotta acknowledge when a take is too hot. One gajillion people had fun with TotK despite hardware limitations, and you held yourself back because you chose to obsess over the frame rate.

[@urazoktay7940]

Amazing video, thank you Digital Foundry.

[@Twitch_Moderator]

*We are simply looking for a pro-level upscaler that doesn't require a software overhaul for every single game. Plugging our SW1 games into the SW2 should be able to upscale plug 'n play style.* *ie: A SW1 ROM (the game file) can be unmodified, yet running that ROM through an emulator (engine that has unlimited potential), it plays the game at 1440p or 4K or even 8K FLAWLESSLY. That is equal to hardware upgrades. So, I think THAT is more what people are asking about.*

[@bbbazzinga]

It's Nintendo, there's no secret sauce. I'll have the minimum to not be obsolete at launch and rely on excellent first party software to thrive.

[@itchyisvegeta]

As long as it's on par with Xbox Series S performance overall, it will be my primary gaming device.

[@xPORTALWALKERx]

There is secret sauce. You think the chips haven’t been tested yet by companies that rigorously test hardware? They can’t talk about it. Trust me…a complete stranger. ✌️🤟

[@fastee]

ill be surprised if its actually gonna fully use what's in there that we already know about

[@jasonwells1719]

Doea anyone remember when the rumored name for the system was Switch Attach 🤔?

[@CrazyKingJammy]

we should have a discussion about how nvidias new tech is basically an API. Neural shaders? API. Switch 2 should feature these, AND it will save memory.

[@CynHicks]

The sauce is what it's always been; incredible software.

[@taib]

Yes. It has. It’s called “Nintendo ‘sauce’ of Quality”

[@johnbailey4618]

never second guess nintendo. Nintendo are nintendo and they do it well .

[@CharBenders]

We think no but our producers think yes

[@DaReapa]

Top USB C port augmented/vr headset.

[@jukkapiispanen123]

Looking at Nvidia Tegra ARM chips,Switch 2 might use Nvidia Xavier chips with DLSS.8 core cpu,and maybe 1.5 tflops gpu.

[@jjasper7512]

Based on the Mario kart brief first look, it doesn't look much better than the switch. The hardware will be underpowered and overpriced for what it is, but there is no doubt those games are going to be amazing.

[@N7rivera]

USB-c port is for a VR glasses 🤓

[@BenGaming35]

Do we know whats in the dock yet?

[@stephkm3655]

Nothing except a new fan. To cool the dock. Recall now 60W flows through it rather than 39W like the OG

[@BenGaming35]

@stephkm3655 i was thinking if there was a secret, an upscaling chip in the dock would be it.

[@althyk]

For the price probs an external GPU in the dock.

[@GremmPaltakin]

Noah needs to learn brevity

[@npancratz]

When you ask questions, I hope you're not constraining yourself because you're worried about some hypothetical audience reaction. But hey, you do you.