Does the 2020 Chevy Silverado HD Duramax CRUSH the Ram Cummins on the World's Toughest Towing Test?

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Does the new 2020 Chevy Silverado HD Duramax Crush the new Ram Cummins on the World's Toughest Towing Test?
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[@JanBartos24]

U guys did it! Just the fact Chevy let's you drive home (from the press driving event) in their brand new 2020 Silverado HD is amazing accomplishment! Congratulations!

[@TheElderOne2003]

They let them drive away knowing the check engine light would come on around the corner and back they would come. :-)

[@billb8862]

Only pussys drive rams

[@brandonorozco8358]

@@billb8862 you sound as ugly as the truck

[@andrewjacobs5330]

@@billb8862 Yeah I hope you spell better in school

[@martingomez7751]

Cummins is better.

[@danielaguila1]

Andre was criticized before for not knowing anything about trucks. I always thought it was just trolling. But at the same time Andre has become an expert and the entire TFL brand is respected in the auto review industry. You guys have developed a very reputable testing system for trucks and I think manufacturers are paying close attention. Credit to the entire team, and Mr Truck, but a lot of credit to Andre. Your style is great. It’s a winner.

[@isx530gary]

I have to agree, Daniel they become my go to when I’m researching a new pick up only add my comments to add to their knowledge many other people are doing the same thing to

[@tuffram2165]

The exhaust brake button is illuminated orange on the Silverado HD when it is active that's how it tells you.

[@sergiovazquez398]

Justin Thurman But in the ram you can look that more easy in the cluster

[@GTOGregory]

Like how often do you need to look if it's on or off. What would be more helpful is the exhaust break staying on so, you don't have to check if it's on after turning your truck off and on. As it is now in the Chevrolet, the exhaust break must be reapplied at each start-up.

[@karykrismer1448]

I haven't read the manual, but I suspect it also turns on tow/haul mode, and that does display on the dash.

[@LTD_Outdoors]

Not sure abort the new models, but my 2011 and 2018 have no dash indicator for the engine brake. The light is on the entire time you’re driving. The light means it’s activated, or will work when needed. It does not tell you when it is actually working or functioning.

[@shitloveaduck]

We are de-evolving. I am sure of it. If it is too much to look a little bit to your right vs a little down to see if the brake is on, then something is wrong with you. Really. It is getting ridiculous. And yes, I am a miserable old bugger!

[@Chase_is_a_race]

Remember when trucks had crank windows, bench seat, and you weren’t afraid to scratch them.....Pepperidge farm remembers.

[@oillease1881]

My 55 Chevy had one two options, an Hydramatic transmission and a wrap-around rear window. The transmission didn't last long, but the granny 4 speed was bulletproof. The rear window was nice. I don't know if the heater was an option but it had one. Turn those wing windows in and windows down, you had 4/60 a/c.

[@sparkycostello]

100% we need to see dually to dually comparison

[@dafarmer3721]

They still do the ram still offers a manual

[@crutler]

Da Farmer they stopped offering manuals after 2018.

[@2015_Rubicnn]

Forget a manual, I'll leave that for my GTO and Camaro. I love my Allison transmission behind my Dirtymax!

[@chriscook2036]

When driving a Ram downhill with a trailer, (I do this for a living), I take off cruise control, and trailer tow haul, and use my foot with full engine brake on. It works really nice for long steep downgrades. Try it.

[@shyman9023]

Should not have to take out of cruise or haul mode? My gas chevy does it automatically.

[@justinseeton5240]

Would you consider your newest ram cummins reliable? I'm thinkin about getting one

[@justicependray9650]

Justin Seeton to help you make your decision about reliability think about this, there is a reason almost all industrial companies use Cummins engines exclusively.

[@justinseeton5240]

@@justicependray9650 very true

[@Nathan-cv6jl]

@@justinseeton5240 I can agree on the engine part, Cummins is a great engine. But for anything else on the trucks ain't known for reliability, Front end issues, Rustings issues ect

[@scottyd8]

The hardest working Workhorse in the lineup is... Andre.

[@scottyd5144]

Great screen name lol

[@AgentSmith911]

You can tell Andre enjoys driving these big boys

[@BIGGIEDEVIL]

Agent Smith he's the reason I like the show the most

[@traviskorda3262]

Absolutely! Hes living proof No collusion and No obstruction 😆

[@bschell1969]

BIGGIEDEVIL same here, I’ve been watching TFL since almost the beginning but was never nearly as consistent until Andre became a bigger part of the program. He’s the man!

[@gibbonsss8]

Who wouldn't

[@bschell1969]

It's Private easy there big man. I’m sure he’s referring to the fact that they’re the biggest things TFL reviews 99.9% of the time. From a fellow trucker....

[@scottparker6219]

I like the fact that the Ram has trailer brake settings for straight electric brakes or electric over hydraulic brakes.

[@lscott4402]

You can't beat the stability of a dual rear wheel truck. Period.

[@matthewschiebout7384]

oh yes you can, dually with the extra wide front axle!

[@spin0491]

Yea but some can’t afford a dually or don’t know how much of a difference it is

[@jimcarden3809]

You can with a 6x6 double dual rear wheel

[@enriqueamontero4695]

Don't ever forget the gear ratios.

[@gwood701]

Small wheels on a dually and less ground pressure make them shit in the snow and ice. Dualys get stuck

[@wexpyke8560]

This may be the most professionally edited video you guys have ever done. NICE WORK!

[@maxxmaxx88]

I want to see a battle between power-wagon, tremor and AT4. Please make it happen in the future.

[@big12playsdefense24]

MAxx MAxx power wagon would destroy

[@Trucker89dude]

Idk... the Tremor on paper has some good numbers. The clearance on Tremor is more then the power wagon

[@BIGGIEDEVIL]

Yes do it guys

[@stuffjunk5019]

knowing these guys they're probably as excited as you are to do it lol

[@dmaderaitt]

That is one video I am patiently waiting for!

[@R1NR4N]

Wow! I knew the Cummins punched above its weight, but I can’t believe it tied the Chevy with 4 less gears and 50 less horsepower. Absolutely amazing.

[@tylersutherland08]

So 90ftlb of torque more towing 1/2 its capacity and you impressed it kept up with the Chevy that was maxed out? I like ram but it didn’t show well here....

[@getwrecked488]

Big difference in gearing tho.....

[@davidharris9259]

Tyler Sutherland how did it not show well? It's 1200 pounds heavier had 2 more wheels which makes more drag , got better fuel economy ,both had same time. The Ram looked a helluva lot better in side and out. Put a 30000 pound trailer on the Chevy and see how it does the ass end would be on the ground. The ram has already pulled 30000 pounds Ford and done well, I never saw the Chevy pull 30000 pounds but I bet it wouldn't be any better than ram or ford.

[@tylersutherland08]

David Harris The computers aren’t accurate enough to say that it actually got better fuel economy. Ram did just as well towing 1/2 is capacity as the smaller Chevy did towing its max capacity that’s not impressive

[@UncleMessyJesse]

Hahaha that's not amazing at all its embarrassing for ram Chevy is the clear winner in this specific challenge

[@drewhiz7334]

Great video! Enthusiasm was awesome as well. I was too surprised at the results. Let's hope you guys get the dualie for the Silverado soon to test

[@xxlilstevexx420]

I love the sound of a diesel through 20 feet of government regulated exhaust

[@iPROFITDON]

lmao

[@Forest9924]

4:07

[@rxonmymind8362]

Let me give you simple numbers. 2001 x (F)350 x 7.3= AWESOMENESS.😃

[@korbinp590]

xxlilstevexx420 I was saying the same shit 😂

[@breakfastclub3909]

just think all the crap we are doing to our emissions and nothing with the environment has change in the direction the government wants! Gas and diesel!

[@passionfruitestate9691]

Congrats on convincing GM to get one to TFLT for a first run up/down the Ike Gauntlet. Nice even handed comparison of what appears to be very different trucks. In the future when you have more access to the GM products I would like to hear how comparable gas, and separately, diesel SRWs do in longer towing runs with some reference to driver comfort. As a tall person, from the waist up, I'm finding many of these newer trucks have a seat height that leaves me with a forward vision that's a bit too high even after adjusting seats. This year is a new truck year for me so I look forward to reviews of the 3/4 and 1 ton SRW trucks.

[@ricwestdoesitwork]

The most capable Chevy HD truck ever, I am impressed. I don't think Chevy's new HD is ugly at all, I just wouldn't buy a High Country because of all the chrome. Thanks for sharing Kent and Andre.

[@ricwestdoesitwork]

@Myballsitchsomethingfierce Your entitled to your opinion.

[@7.0sbfgmcrusher95]

If this is Chevy's most capable truck ever they are in deep trouble!

[@2k7duramax]

That's impressive. a 3/4 ton at almost max tongue and 90% trailer weight rating finished in a draw with a 1 ton dually pulling at roughly half it's rated maximums.

[@jasonwilliams3223]

Its really not as impressive as you think. All that stops the 2500s from legally pulling 30k like the 3500 is a little sticker... It's not like the engine can't do it it's the same one in the 3500. So they are working with the same power. Why wouldnt they be equal. All the dually has on it is load stability

[@rognio3]

@@jasonwilliams3223 I agree with your statement except that this Chevrolet has 3.42 rear gears. Im basically positive the dually will only be available with 4.11's. that is a HUGE detail, and makes a very big difference in real world towing and acceleration

[@jtugwell]

Rocky Ognio the 10 speed trans on the Chevy should wash any gearing advantage between the two i would think. Also keep in mind that in this test the GVWR would almost certainly be much more with the ram given they pulled the same trailer weight.

[@rognio3]

@@jtugwell I think you missed my point. The ram in the video is rated to tow double what it is towing in the video. The Chevrolet is towing it's maximum capacity. The Chevy version that tows double this weight has taller rear gears. So, it is reasonable to assume this ram would have a very difficult time towing a 30000 pound trailer in the same conditions, while the Chevrolet dually rated to tow 30000 lbs would only see a roughly 20% increase in engine load vs 50% for the ram.

[@Michael_ryan91]

@@rognio3 u could go back and watch the last gen ram pull 30k up the ike did awsome!

[@davidhoover2446]

Dang Andre you got the bed bugs just to bring us a new heavy duty truck? Roman better give you a big pay raise LOL. Great video as always!!!

[@ohsnaponreview]

David Hoover how you get a private jet but a hotel with bed bugs! Lol

[@ictpilot]

Yea Andre spend an extra $20-30 bucks and stay at a decent hotel. You won't have to worry about bed bugs.

[@formeraide529]

Wonder how the 2019 Chevy with the Duramax and 6 speed Allison would compare with the 2020 Chevy?

[@ronhughley6510]

They shouldn't run the background music when they're start up the trucks that way we can hear them better

[@brabham74]

As always, great job guys. You're really good at this truck testing stuff.

[@Rich-mb6bw]

Thanks for all of your hard work your true fans really appreciate it.

[@truckcampertraveler7369]

Fireman Rich they gave him a pep talk !

[@jasons7044]

Why am I watching this....i might as well be watching a video with 200ft yatchs...I'll never be able to afford any of them

[@ChrisSmith-ig9jq]

Work harder and smarter! It can be done!

[@dedalliance1]

You could get either of these trucks in a lower end package for 45 to 55k dollars. That trailer would probably cost a bit more though, lol.

[@truckcampertraveler7369]

Who would spend 80 plus G’s on a truck ???? Oh ya all kinds of people after a 84 mo loan they paid $100,000 lmao

[@dedalliance1]

@Jr ALEXANDER Anyone can work on these trucks, you just need the tools and knowledge to do so which can get very expensive, thus why society has made these things like you mentioned called Dealers and Mechanic shops. And you don't have to go specifically to a dealer, just anyone that has the tools and ability to perform the work which should be any other major mechanic shop so there's a lot of options.

[@100pyatt]

Agreed. The pricing for what's mostly a toy is financial Stupidity. Even as a work truck, a medium duty crew cab is much smarter to buy with far better real work options and less yachtboy BS.

[@danatkinson6698]

94 is when the semi tractor design was introduced on the dodge, not 84

[@stevenvanheel3932]

That Chevy has a face that only a mother could love.

[@Simonvawt]

Steven Vanheel thumbs up and I’m a Chevy guy.

[@Simonvawt]

Quadra you smoking meth again aren’t you, just quit, it makes you delusional and hostile. It’s bad for your teeth too. Maybe that’s what they decided to model the 2020 HD after, a meth addicts jacked up grill. I’ll stick to 2019 and earlier until Chevy does some dental work on their front end.

[@bobbiebigg3]

YEP IT's A MEAN MOTHER ALRIGHT.

[@jdrok5026]

Eh it looks nice to me wish it didnt have the bowtie.

[@leeannbowser3068]

sweet truck put crack pipe down little boys

[@lastnamefirstname520]

Nice video! Very informative! And good to see two experts have nearly the same opinion. Looking forward to the Chevy dually test

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@EliteStricker]

No indication Points camera at light on bottom of exhaust break button

[@nicholashosslogan3444]

Thays cause andre hasn't driven enough semi trucks yet lmfao

[@danepittman1383]

It looks like Chevy is about to be building their best most capable trucks ever and it’s funny that it’s also gonna be the ugliest they’ve ever made.

[@bbear88]

Dane Pittman : i agree its pretty gross

[@MikesGarageReviews]

Not half as ugly as a truck with a mini dress on

[@kevindodge2103]

they just build the body isuzu engine allison trans

[@domin8ss]

GM owns Isuzu

[@danepittman1383]

Michael Rose what do you mean?

The look of the Chevy has really grown on me!!!!!!!! Both were very impressive!! Great review guys!

[@errickkitchin36]

It's growing on me, but dam that new Seirra is a sexy beast.

[@bruhwhatevinisthis725]

5:24 says "select heavy electric braking" and clearly selects light. ESPN C'MON MAN!

[@steventinsley4972]

It was 1994 when Dodge redesigned their trucks with the big rig look

[@Superior2020]

1993

[@steventinsley4972]

@@Superior2020 as a 94 model

[@tl5108]

Yeah 93 was the last model year for the first gen

[@MichaelSmith-kr9qw]

@@tl5108 Actually for the Dodge Ram 2500 and 3500 it wasn't 95 model year.

[@steveawesome9538]

I don't put much faith in anyone at TFL. The day Mr. Truck said that the 5.0 Coyote V8 was the same as the 302 V8 from way back in the 80's and 90's they lost all credibility in terms of the technical aspect of the show. Now he's saying the big truck Ram body changed in 1984. Outstanding I enjoy watching the videos for the vehicles. As a professional truck driver, I kind of know what I'm looking at in terms of the trucks capabilities based off the videos. I'm still trying to figure out what it is these two clowns are looking at in terms of their criteria for "braking down hill". It's really simple with a big truck. You turn the exhaust brake on. then if you have the cruise set, the exhaust brake comes on at about 3-4 mph above your cruise. If you touch the brakes, the exhaust brake comes on. In either case the vehicles speed should decrease. Then if the big truck is an auto shift, it will start dropping gears. With a manual you usually have the gear set for the max speed, then the exhaust brake helps, then you stab brake if necessary. Grade, load, road conditions, weather conditions all factor in as well. I have no idea what these two are expecting. The laws of physics don't change because you're driving a Ram 3500 or a Silverado 2500 HD. The exhaust brake is a tool to help you, but you may need to use braking and gear shifting. I think this is completely lost on them due to limited experience pulling trailers. The differences in the trucks weights and styles of transmissions plays a little into the mpg, barking and overall performance. But based off the owners needs, either truck would be a solid purchase. I'm a Ford guy myself, but either truck seems like it would be good for it's intended use. I'm pretty sure these trucks are designed to run at max weight performance. Not, max weight at highest mph and mpg going up a 7% grade for 8 miles. The Ram can do 35k in all conditions suspension and power wise. It's braking and mpg and max speed will suffer, but it'll pull 35k. I think this was a really good comparison to show you if you're buying a truck, what both can do. if you need to pull x amount of weight, you don't necessarily need to spend more money on a top trim level dually. They just happened to luck out. I think they're both idiots who have little concept of what they're doing. But at least Andre is a journalist with the ability to convey his message in an articulate fashion. It'll be great when he can figure out what the message is. Didn't mean to ramble on, and I should probably put this in the regualr comments. But I caught that 1984 style change and was like, wth?

[@MyTubeUser321]

You guys are THE authority when it comes to pickup truck reviews! Never would have thought I'd see such a comparison so soon! Keep it up guys! I have to admit the Chevy HD is growing on me slightly, but when compared to the Ram HD, Chevy needs a facelift fast! That Ram is IMO the best looking truck on the market hands down.

[@johnlong7504]

Why would I go for looks when the Chevy still has a V8 under the hood?

[@jabojr5171]

The dually has one more thing, stability with larger trailers or 5th wheels.

[@bobfishnut]

At the 16:00 and 17:00 mark they both commented on how well the single wheeled Chevrolet performed (in handling) top notch over the Ram 3500 with dual wheels. Later when the dually wheeled Chevy is out, I'd say that will provide you with equal towing capacity. I own the 2020 2500HD Sierra and love it.

[@truckguy6666]

If you are going to be pulling over 10-15K regularly, you're a FOOL not to get a dually. The stability and piece of mind that comes with have 4 good tires planted on the ground, they are SOO much more sure footed than the SRW trucks.......

[@donaldthomas5852]

I have a 2500 and 3500 Chevy the 3500 is a dually, feels so much safer in the dually, no comparison.

[@jackk8422]

Where is the Ford? Must have broke down on the way to the test.

[@gregs3032]

probably had a recall

[@mikefay4149]

How to make a chevy win- dont compare with a ford

[@lw6735]

Here ya go on Ford vs GM 30,000 lb 😉 kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5_VpmSghc57bKM

[@lw6735]

The 2020 Ram is the 1 that’s delayed. This was a 19 Ram.

[@mikemurphy6748]

Didnt show up becuse for 45 years they been crushing the competition

[@Idividezero]

If you're serious about towing heavy loads, please get a dually. It's not about the load, it's about the traction. Namely, if you're going downhill on a wet or gravel road, the trailer can and will push the truck out of the way (jackknife). Having that extra traction is really really nice for that.

[@nilsjohansson9739]

Cummins and Asin all the way. I know it's a Ram, but until you drive one every day you wont understand. Nothing wrong with the Chevy, but hey it's a straight six cummins. It's a beast!

[@JsGarage]

Hey I have been a long time viewer of your IKE challenge. I appreciate what you guys do. One thing I would like to see come back and maybe even better implemented would be more camera time on the instrument cluster. As viewers we don't get the experience but viewing the speedo and tach we can get a go idea how well the truck is holding speed, utilizing the transmission and ultimately putting its power down. Your older IKE runs have more camera and discussion time on the performance during the hill climb. Now you guys cram a climb into a small time frame and give us an end time leaving much of the experience of the climb left out. The time of the climb is only a small piece of data from the climb and really only shows if you held the speed limit. Hopefully you can take this as purely constructive criticism. I know you guys put a lot of time into this but I feel like the down hill braking portion has taken away from the IKE climbing experience we used to get.

[@BIGGIEDEVIL]

Every place I've worked at has used Chevy Diesel engines and never had an issue ever with them, ram always seems to have issues with everything but there cummins engines, and ford I have no idea about, would like to see a comparison between the big three all at once pls guys

[@matthewross2828]

That's because the Cummins engines aren't built by dodge. If they were I'm sure they would be garbage.

[@sierravortec2629]

I would disagree with new trucks not coming around that often. I just got rid of my 2012 Duramax, and it’s already two generations old, time absolutely flies. Anyway, love your videos guys!

[@djaftermath4313]

I'm no Chevy fan but hats off for that performance. The new 2020 Super Duty will have no margin for error, that's for sure!

[@drhhodge8243]

Marcus Coyle rumors are saying 490 plus hp and 1,000 plus torque for the super duty there is a reason they haven’t released numbers yet

[@djaftermath4313]

@@drhhodge8243 490? Holy smokes, that's alot of ponies. I wonder if the torque will be 1,025 or something. After a while, folks will need a CDL to drive these if not already. It's amazing how much power they are getting out of 6.7Ls. There has to be a limit and I guess that's where electric motors will eventually kick in.

[@TheGeil8500]

I guarantee the Ram will last much longer than the Chevy.

[@LEGEND04131]

@@TheGeil8500 In the shop, yes It wi'll.

[@dansie_lbz6236]

Robert Brumley not if the owner can’t afford a transmission every 70 k miles 😂😂😂

[@stephenlozada7158]

9:45 you mean no indication???besides the light that’s on the button...

[@derekortiz3663]

Why would it not notify you on the dash too though? Oversight.

[@RedHaloManiac95]

That's not what he meant, it's automatic so even though it's on doesn't mean it stays on. If they press the gas a little it will stop braking, so it doesn't actually notify you when it's braking just that it's on

[@yetisdeuce1315]

It doesn't have to notify you (light up) when it's actually working...you will feel it when it's working.

[@WilliamStewart1]

@@RedHaloManiac95 If you press the accelerator on any truck the exhaust break turns off......

[@RedHaloManiac95]

@@WilliamStewart1 that's my point? Did you not comprehend?

[@joshuaking34]

GM should offer the monochrome grille on all trims. It by far the best looking front end.

[@ShadowOppsRC]

So true! The monochrome looks better!

[@eazy1144]

Joshua King the things is you can actually have the monochrome on all the trims. There is packages in all the trim levels that include the monochrome grill.

[@ShadowOppsRC]

@@eazy1144 good. Did not know that.

[@joshuaking34]

@@eazy1144 good to know. They should offer the monochrome surround with chrome or stainless mesh on the higher trims.

[@MTU5oh]

“Best” is a relative term with the new Chevy front ends. There isn’t enough lipstick for these pigs, they are ugly.

[@shawncordeiro1150]

Once again proud of you chevy/gmc a single wheel 3/4 ton out pulls the best 1 ton dually that ram can offer

[@pixseedustaerialimaging8191]

My first truck was a brand new 1972 Chevrolet Cheyenne Super 20 4x4, and it cost $7,400 off the lot back then. These trucks today look like luxury starships by comparison. They are amazing, but for some reason, as amazing as the new trucks are these days, my heart is with that old 72 Cheyenne. Man I’d love to get behind the wheel of that old 72 again.

[@justinjohnson7953]

I think it would be cool to have all three manufacturers provide a 2500 and 3500 to be able to test how much of an advatage it is to get a 1 ton over the 3/4

[@stephenlozada7158]

Technically this is the perfect video I been looking for. Ive been torn between dually and single wheel for a fifth wheel travel trailer.

[@dedalliance1]

They all pretty much use the same mechanics other than different gear ratios potentially. A dually just gives you more stability and a stiffer suspension for a higher payload. It's typically always better to have too much rather than too less, but it's really going to depend on what kind of trailer and towing you're going to be doing.

[@EGGINFOOLS]

You guys used to show more content from inside the cab and do direct comparisons. Now it's a lot of production and B-roll. I like the channel but you didn't show the speedo speeds from take off, didn't show what the gauges were reading in the Chevy and the most important part, you used to make sure to specify when you got to the toughest part of the hill to watch the gauges and speeds.

[@100pyatt]

Agreed. For the comparison it should have had a dash video for the whole test.. And outside view minus the two yapping their BS

[@dalefine3329]

Your reviews are really good! I would love to see Ram 3500 Dually 3.73 vs 4.10 ratio. For me, I only need to pull the fifth wheel up to 17,000 on two axles or 20,000 lbs on three axles. I was reading somewhere that 3.73 is better on 70 mph and 4.10 on 55 mph. My wife and I live on the east coast and I think we should get Ram 3500 Dually 3.73. Many thanks!

[@stephenanthony7001]

Now think of what a 1 ton chevy with 4.10 gears will do vs the 3.42 gears you had in the demo, the 4.10 gears would exponentially increase the bottom end torque and acceleration !

[@rosetaylor6605]

I love TFL truck. Andre, you are the best!

[@davidlusk4350]

Impressive!! As a gm dude I thought you all were crazy to put that much pin weight on 2500. But it did great. Personally i like the looks of Ram better, but if i dumped my 2018 hd, I'd pic the GMC out of all of them. Wishing ford would hurry up with their new one, things of people are waiting .

[@bilbobaggins4710]

Don't buy a Ford dude...Please

[@caveman9555]

Don’t buy any of them buy a house it is cheaper

[@derekortiz3663]

@@bilbobaggins4710 better is better. 🤷‍♂️

[@bilbobaggins4710]

@@derekortiz3663 I would not drive a ford if it paid dividends....GM til I die or nothing at all

[@bilbobaggins4710]

@@derekortiz3663 doesn't Chev still have better resale value???? Ford brags about sales #'s always but seems Chevy consistently holds it value better...

[@meatball1080]

Love all your channels, you guys are great. Keep up the great work!

[@franklueder663]

Have a 2019 denali love it

[@Bipbapbop_]

Which one is better... well you compared a 3/4ton to a one ton dually with the results being identical, I’d say give it to the Chevy.

[@anthonystaggs6239]

I'd say give it to the true diesel motor and not a converted diesel... ram wins in the long run every time

[@immortal7.3lw85]

Tony Staggs 👍🏻

[@crusigala]

The Chevy is a V8 and Cummins is I6

[@Scubasteve22]

I appreciate you boys doing a an early test. Kind of makes you think, ram has 1000 ft lbs vs. chevys 910. Ram has 4.10 gears vs. chevy 3.42. Chevy made it 2 seconds faster., Holy cow. They must know something we don't lol. Great job guys.

[@johntlarkin]

The final drive ratio (after going thru both the transmission and diff) is lower on the Chevy than the Dodge. And the Chevy has more gears in the middle to select from. Chevy first gear : 4.54*3.42: 15.5 Second: 2.36*3.42: 8.07 Tenth: .63*3.42 : 2.15 Dodge first gear: 4.1*3.75 : 15.357 Second: 4.1*2 : 8.2 Sixth: 4.1*.63 : 2.58

[@Scubasteve22]

@@johntlarkin Not for sure if your info is correct, haven't looked it up. But if you look at the display you have above, the dodge final drive is lower all the way from second to both trucks top gear(which they never get into anyway at 60 mph to the floor). Thank you for taking the time to prove my point. And yes chevy has more gears, its called technology.

[@JD-os2kr]

Good content. Amazing how the time was nearly the exact same at the end there...unreal! Those trucks are beasts. Love the Chevy.

[@apegues]

That front end on the Chevy has to be the UGLIEST truck front end EVER!!! What the heck were they thinking!

[@destry1858]

I'll buy it but they can keep the sheet metal. I will use my 1995 sheet metal.

[@Nordic_Mechanic]

i thought the 08 where ugly so I kept my 05. Gonna have to skip another generation !

[@bobbiebigg3]

You guys don't get it, to GM it's about selling parts, fart on the front end and you will be replacing more plastic chrome than you can count.

[@matthewschiebout7384]

the General always knows best!

[@anthonyj810]

The GMC looks great tho

[@shanereidelberger299]

Price tag on that new Chevy is more than I paid for my first house. Think I'll wait a few years and pick one up used.

[@mcmehlen]

Agreed. Idk how people spend so much on a depreciating asset...

[@carlbroughton1199]

That's the conclusion I reached fo the new EXPEDITION.

[@tylerray1728]

Shane Reidelberger “a few years”? You’ll still pay $50k for it.

[@lumberfox89]

@@tylerray1728 For that high end model, you're probably right. I picked up a 2013 Silverado 2500HD, 6.6L Duramax 4x4, extended cab, with gooseneck hitch for $8K at a Ritchie Brothers auction in April. It's an LT though. So far, no problems at all.

[@truckguy6666]

@@mcmehlen Its absurd. But then there are a lot of people with a lot of money and an ego that needs stroking. How many of them are trying to impress their neighbor or friends? So many. 3-5 years flys by and then what do you have? Yesterdays truck with tomorrows payment and depreciation.

[@DrStephenHeilmanEscondido]

whoulda coulda shouldve: Used the Dodge Cummins 2500 HD vs the Chevy Silverado 2500 HD. Keep the specs uniform. Now let's do the same test every day for 500,000 miles. Who's transmission dies first, and who's injectors blow up and how much do the repairs cost.

[@rsg1963]

My answers: Cummins will go longer without a rebuild by several hundred thousand miles, Transmissions are about equal (Aisin v Allison), injectors are probably equal. Repair costs will be close with Cummins edging the win due to 2 less pistons and injectors and slightly easier to work on (room under the hood).

[@samk2630]

The Cummins is undoubtedly the most reliable engine on the market right now. Now that Ram uses the Aisin transmission it’s extremely reliable just like the Allison.

[@187ffkev]

You all know Allison designed the aisin trans but at the last second left the pack and aison still had the rights to make it

[@jakewalker8823]

This is why we come back to TFL! Keep up the good work Andre & Mr. Truck!

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@quest5581]

I have the 2017 Duramax and drove from Denver all the way through the range to Grand Junction with the cruise control on pulling a 6'000'ish lb trailer. Granted not a huge trailer, but the truck held 70mph ( except for some turns and traffic now and then) the entire way both up and down the mountains. I only had to use the brakes once on a tighter turn right around the Vail area.

[@kylem3987]

Great review, I love your Ike Gauntlet videos! Are you going to do an updated gasser comparison any time soon? I'd love to see an updated test of the new Ram with the 6.4L Hemi. I'm really curious if the new 8-speed ZF makes a marked improvement over the old 6-speed.

[@getwrecked488]

Yes, please.

[@mikekirkendall5875]

The ram has a huge gearing advantage I'm tired of people talking about stability and Dooleys really not that much other than holding the extra weight I have driven both as a professional driver

[@RMaxon]

The Ram has a nice big screen to play with while you're waiting for the tow truck to pick you up.

[@rays2075]

Ryan cummins is the most reliable diesel engine in the market keep haiting lol these people

[@jamesallen7205]

Why are the new GM trucks more aerodynamic? So they will save the Rams gas when the Ram tows them away.

[@flycam1781]

Chevy is the most reliable diesel and gas engine

[@seanhazelwood3311]

@@flycam1781 duramax has become pretty good, but it will never outlast a cummins. .

[@hihaveaniceday9386]

@@seanhazelwood3311 you can't get facts thought fanboys head don't even bother

[@UltraSS-nj8kd]

Thats the HO Cummins kinda rare. So a basic one would get more smacked by the Silverado. So Glad Mr. TRUCK let Andre drive that was very nice lol

[@ScottDLR]

I'm a Cummins fan but I'm sick of the two engine crap. Just try to find an HO cummins on the lot, very hard to find! So they brag about the HO but when you get to the dealer, there's nothing!

[@OKstang77]

Besides power numbers, what makes the HO differ from a regular engine?

[@mayor399999999999999]

@@OKstang77 Better transmission in the HO.

[@Thecryptocowboy]

@@ScottDLR I agree they need to finally get back to one powertrain whenever they get there new 8 or 10 speed heavy-duty hopefully they will fix that remember back in the day they used to have the HO model as well but it was only available in the manual transmission back then.

[@ALMX5DP]

@@ScottDLR A search of Autotrader shows many HO models around me. Maybe not as many choices within a 100 mile radius, but certainly are available if that is your priority. Maybe you live in an area that doesnt have a strong truck buyer presence?

[@alf732]

Love this! I work at the tunnel, live nearby, and am in the market for a diesel 2500 for pulling my 8,000lb RV. Thanks guys!

[@matthewguarino7780]

I just went through the Eisenhower tunnel last week! My little rental was crying up it! 🤣 Love you guys keep it up!

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@jnk26]

Well the GVWR of 11350 on a "3/4" ton makes sense. I have a 2019 f350 at 11500lbs, it weighs 8500lbs and can tow 21600lbs. Wonder what the real 1 ton SRW has for GVWR.

[@achirdo]

My 2016 ram 3500 srw is 12300

[@ChrisSmith-ig9jq]

But its higher with a 5th wheel. that 11350 is normal towing I believe

[@jocarr1791]

@@ChrisSmith-ig9jq With the GVWR (think of it like the truck is on a scale) where the vehicle curb weight, fuel, people, cargo, 5th wheel, goose neck, or tongue weight combined can't legally exceed the truck's GVWR. There is also a separate GVWR for the front and rear axles as well.

[@jeffrogge1999]

jocarr1791 commercially

[@jnk26]

@@jeffrogge1999 the GAWRs, GVWR, GCWR always apply. Not just for commercial use. The GAWRs are always going to be higher than the GVWR when added up. It's safety margin and allows you to load front or rear biased, with pickups. My highway tractor has 132k steer axle and 40k drives and it's GVWR is 53K.

[@traviskleinsasser1144]

Andre is such a Chevy fan!

[@GreenMountain565]

travis kleinsasser True but Roman leans Ford and Nathan leans Ram so they even out lol

[@danielgoetz7821]

Omg!! I've been waiting for this video. I'm so impressed by the 2500 HD. It matches the Ram Dually from the 3/4 ton place. 😯😯😯

[@NJDAVE]

I would like to this truck with some beefier rear-end options. 3.42 stinks

[@profitlemon5004]

a chevy 2500 HD is just a 3500 with different badges, so its actually pretty much a 1 ton

[@dedalliance1]

The 2500 HD had an advantage lol. It's a lighter truck than the dually and has less friction on the ground. It's pretty impressive on how it handled the trailer safely with no concerns. But as far as speed going up the hill, fuel mileage, and braking coming down the hill, the Chevy had an advantage just because it's a lighter truck. The 1 ton is going to use the same motor and transmission but will be a little heavier so we may expect a slight decrease in performance.

[@jamespenner1412]

Great job guys now I'm interested in when u hook a big trailer on, 16k I'm surprised the chevy didnt dominate but when you bring those 30k trailers that's when the inline 6 shines. Such interesting videos:)

[@dedalliance1]

@@jamespenner1412 Using a 1 ton to tow 30k pounds is kind of dumb though lol. I don't see very many people using these trucks to tow that much weight anyway. I think a 16k pound trailer, maybe up to 20-23k is going to be the most people tow with these so that's what should really be focused on.

[@mattb.6057]

Andre, the United Express Aircraft you filmed in the first minute of this video is operated by Skywest Airlines. You can see on the nose of the aircraft, the numbers 794. This is the company fleet ID derived from aircraft registration. I am a Captain for SkyWest Airlines and have piloted that exact aircraft registration number; N794SK. Too bad we weren't your crew! Really enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work?

[@GH-el9ch]

Love the front end of the new Chevy.. Eclectic!.it grows on you .. and not playing it safe like Dodge and Ford

[@deltabravo1257]

3:05 That's only 50 lbs shy of the GVWR my 2009 3500HD Dually Silverado!

[@jmackinjersey1]

Exactly.

[@MarcMonson]

new 10 speed and you didnt show it accelerating -_-

[@specture47177]

Want to see the 2500/3500 AT4 with the new transmission

[@ShyaMiss]

Quite honestly, it seems as though we are at a point where the trucks are all going to perform pretty damn equally. I dont expect any 1 truck to be a stand out winner. They will all tow anything you put behind them, and they will all do it in comfort. Now it's just down to personal opinions. On a side note, you guys at TFL Truck have the best job. Getting paid to play with trucks, and discuss it online. How could it get better?

[@dieselmax2383]

wlabishler 1 my opinion is that I like all the trucks, they all look badass

[@UncleJack5224]

I remember when you could buy a great truck brand new for about 4,500 bucks. They pulled everything we had on the farm. Probably would not go up the Grapevine 80 miles per hour. But you would get there.

[@carloscaro860]

I’m a Chevy guy live the Silverado but I don’t think I’d be able to buy a Chevy truck knowing the rams interior is sooo much nicer

[@oHITMAN14o]

carlos caro im in a Tx of rams ALOT OF GM and CHEVY owners came to to RAM so I don’t disagree with you

[@Ozgrade3]

I'm surprised that the Chevy with the 10 speed gearbox didn't go up the mountain faster than the 6 speed RAM.

[@jeffwill4923]

There are a lot of issues at play. Gearing on the Ram is shorter. There is a optional 3.73 ratio for the Ram. If that were used it would be slightly slower. Up the mountain favors the Ram. Both are losing power coming up but torque, gearing and dually setup does help the Ram.

[@TheXOoftheRO]

Not to mention the Ram is heavier and is pushing more rotational weight.

[@cowboykyle]

Lol @ people thinking that DRW makes you faster.

[@jeffwill4923]

Drw doesn't make either faster. GM has already put out their drw is faster from a stop unloaded and loaded with 18k vs a similar Ram model in video. The srw is faster model here. Up a hill is where all can change.Ram 2500 model doesn't have HO engine. Only 3500 srw can have that option. C&D have tested the weaker 2500 and HO Mega cab 3500. Numbers weren't impressive with either. When TFL does their drw drag race Ram will be last again.

[@bm9074]

Love it guys keep it up on all channels great content all the time great job

[@claytonargo3085]

The reason for a dually doesn’t show up on a straight highway with a heavy trailer. The dually stops the heavy trailer from pushing the rear end side to side so much on twisty highways. And that push can be a lot!

[@TheXOoftheRO]

Yup

[@jreyman]

You don't need a redundant notification in the instrument cluster. The status of the indicator light on the button is enough to tell you if it's on or not. I am not a fan of large displays in vehicles. In the dark, the backlight brightness of the display is annoying, and reduces your night vision capabilities, even when dialed down. With how well the GM 2500 did against the 3500 Ram, I'm expecting the GM 3500's to do even better.

[@1ronztoys]

I enjoy your comparisons , personally I'd like a test between the gas and diesel versions of each model on fuel mileage loaded just to see the major difference

[@jmackinjersey1]

But there are huge differences because the "gasoline" engine (since they are technically both a gas) can haul more in the bed, but tow less and the opposite is true for the diesel. The real test would be to compare a Dodge Power Wagon and a Chevy Custom 4x4 or GMC AT4, since they are all equipped with the larger gasoline engines.

[@allanwarmflash5165]

great info as iv been looking at both fror my next truck iv been leaning twards the chevy or gm like the trailer pack they offer on the 2020

[@OneNationUnderGod.]

I'd go with the GMC and if you can afford it the Denali. I bought a 2019 GMC Sierra 2500 Duramax Denali just a couple months ago and absolutely love this current L5P Duramax! I do wish I had the new 10 speed transmission and new chassis/body but I couldn't pass up the $10k price drop on the 19's as GM is motivated to get them sold before the 20's hit the lot.

[@autosofinterest3623]

@@guardrail2897 Let me guess, you're the fat ugly dude that is always worried about other people's opinions, right? That "fat ugly chick" was probably the best thing that ever happened to you. Psst... you're being laughed at anyway LOL

[@mikebarcus1594]

If they are still using the cp4 injection pump I’d plan on putting a good lift pump on it. I run a 16 for work and the injection pump went out. Cost 9k to replace and delete the truck. Swapped it to a cp3 injection pump. From what I found the cp4 struggles to stay lubricated since there is no longer a lift pump. Dodge stuck with the cp3 and does not have the same issues.

[@OneNationUnderGod.]

@@mikebarcus1594 nope here's an article you might be interested in blog.calibratedpower.com/blog/all-you-need-to-know-about-the-l5p 2017 they went to the L5P Duramax and it's nearly a completely different engine. The fuel pump is now a Denso HP4, the fuel injectors have been improved, now has a factory lift pump, there's a new turbo and a bunch more. The LML fuel pump issue was part of my reason for trading in but I've got a few friends that pull way more than do and work their LML more than I ever have and have 4x the milage and have had zero issues so it's really unknown if you'll ever have a problem.

[@basher3804]

The new GM is nice but if it’s a toss up. The new interior on the Ram is the tie breaker for me.

[@jeffforbess6802]

As much as you travel, you should use a sleeping bag insert. Reí has one that has built in bug protection, i think.

[@stephenpowstinger733]

Jeff Forbess Bed, Bath has one for about $20.

[@christopherwilson7698]

The Dually is just so more stable and confident in turns and breaking there’s really no comparison

[@campingjack75]

One of these days I know I am going to run into you guys up there. Run that section with our Ram 2500 and trailer all the time. Never run out of throttle and with the automatic exhaust brake I may touch and I mean touch the brake once coming down the Dillon side.

[@woodboat3G]

someone watched the mammoth car on speed racer as a kid. Now they design Chevys

[@roderickl9539]

I'd love to see a GMC 3500HD Dually test on the Ike. I'm not sure I'm sold on Dodge. Same with Ford. I'm leaning towards a GMC 3500HD Dually to pull my future 35 or 42 foot fifth wheel. Peace!..

[@mattk741]

The Ram 3500 can tow over 35,000lbs as shown in video The GMC 3500HD Denali dually (in a similar configuration cab and box to the ram) can tow only 20,000lbs

[@rlhmarines]

Matt Kay ...GM 3500 dually's can tow 35,500 lbs on the new generation starting with the 2020 trucks.

[@terryduncan31]

@@mattk741, that's what their numbers show. We all know that in the real world the only people that pay attention to that are the DOT, lol. They will actually all tow more than they can safely stop.

[@NoStress90s]

@@mattk741 ram cannot tow over 35000 pounds. 34,100 is the number your looking for, chevy out tows them by over 1000 pounds, sorry brody

[@187ffkev]

NoStress90s kinda weird gm needs 8 cylinders while ram uses 6 and still hauls 35000+

[@kennthbennett7320]

That front end is going to cost them some sales like the styling on the 1500 did!

[@andybub45]

I have seen plenty of 1500s. They dont look too bad to lots of people

[@kheavrin]

I have to agree. That 2500 is a fugly truck!

[@brandonorozco8358]

@@andybub45 they're the ugliest trucks on the market, I though ford and their lego body was bad but Chevy is screwing up.

[@jamesyoung_photoghraphy1015]

So will those tow mirrors

[@jdrok5026]

Huh see both the 19 and the hd out and about they look good.

[@BlueDually4x4]

I don't understand why you don't use cruise going down hill, if the exhaust brake is on, the computer should apply the exhaust brake automatically as well as down shift the transmission. Hell the cruise control on my 13 year old KW will use the engine brake as long as I have it turned on. I was more surprised by how little gear hunting the Chevy did, than how well either truck pulled the hill.

[@user-mo7zy4nj2r]

I don't understand why tow/haul mode wasn't active on either of them.

[@oillease1881]

I've been driving trucks for 50 years. I don't know about pickups, but I suspect they are similar(diesels at least)to big rigs. If you want to make the engine pull harder than the pedal on the floor, engage cruise control and give it a few tips to encourage it to go faster. I've spoken with lots of other drivers and they all said their rigs would pull harder with the cruise on. I'd like to test those pickups with my experience.

[@YMTYMY]

I’m a Chevy guy but hate those stupid mirrors on that 2020 Silverado

[@dannyboy9254]

i remember when i used ro be a chevy guy myself. lol. when i was young and dumb. now am mature and smart. Cummins bb

[@NoStress90s]

@@dannyboy9254 mature and smart idk about that, you must never tow anything. i tow extremely heavy on occasion (horse trailer and 5th wheel toy hauler) and you soy boys driving around malls with tow mirrors out no trailer and neon lights underneath those low profile mud tires it makes us truck guys cringe.you know nothing about a quality truck. allison duramax has always been the superior set up

[@dannyboy9254]

@@NoStress90s i dont tow anything you said? am a truck driver been hauling 80,000 pounds of agriculture for 20+ years. with a 2015 peterbuilt with a Cummins engine. thats why i love the rams because of the lil cummins. very reliable. i like the fact that you tow extremely heavy like 5th wheel and horse trailer. thats cute.

[@NoStress90s]

@@dannyboy9254 2 different classes of truck, i dont need to tow 80,000 pounds to know that dodge 1 tons are crap. dont get your panties in a bunch though my guy, outside the states they are towing real weight, 3 times what you are. i guess thats cute too

[@dannyboy9254]

@@NoStress90s other truckers may be hauling more than 80,000 pounds outside of california. but you keep on hauling your extra heavy weight by hauling your 5th wheel and horse trailer. lol. i bet your wife is the one driving that allison trans you pussy. lol

[@Fixin-To]

Me: Sprints to the cupboard to get the comments popcorn....

[@glenn2973]

your comparing a ram dually 3500 with a 4.10 rear to a 2500 with a 3.42 rear and they were equal? not much of a comparison.

[@trakyboy5128]

Hi Glenn, I apologize if I missed something obvious in your statement. But what did you mean by that?¿?. Because of the gears or because of the sizing of the trucks??? I don't know anything about gering so the numbers don't represent anything special?? Are the gears for each company about as close to each other as they can possibly be? Personally I'm impressed that either one of them could maintain that speed with that much weight and a 7% grade!!!

[@juliocervantes4994]

Yes your right, but your also forgetting 3.42 10 speed vs 6 speed 4.10 It should level the playing Field And they said they couldn’t get a dully Silverado that would probably end up having 3.73 Anyways

[@trailerparkcryptoking5213]

What it means is that Dmax engine is making more torque and the advertised torque numbers are off! Those 4.10 gears should way out pull those 3.42’s on that climb. Gearing = torque multiplication in the engineering world! The 10 speed trans will have a bearing because gearing is torque multiplication. The Dmax has more HP but the Cummins has more torque, but HP wins assuming you are properly geared, where the 10 speed comes in! The Dmax as a package outperforms the Cummins as a package!!! Always has no matter what any loyalist say, physics is physics!!!

[@WickedWays24]

Not to mention the 2500 has taller tires then the dually which equals less acceleration and deceleration . Means the chevy dually is going to stomp the ram. Just like every year they do this test

[@rigorousrangel6394]

Of course if you move the position of the 5th wheel the weight in the front axle is going to change, that's why on big rigs the 5th wheel is a slider, and if by chance you're heavy on the trailer,. The axles on the trailer are also sliders. That's how we adjust our weight.

[@saldar65]

You guys need to test the base models of all the trucks so the average guy can get an idea of how good or bad they are. Remember we all can't afford the top of the line trucks.

[@NWI_Steel]

The manufacturers loan out their loaded models so all of the newest gadgets can be featured.

[@dubstepatadailydose]

When will you test the towing capability of the 2019 6.4 hemi 2500 with the new 8 speed @ The Fast Lane Truck

[@supporterofsanity]

So is that a 7/8 ton Chevy?

[@sickjohnson]

Really enjoying Andre's & Mr. Truck's passion for the trucks and the competition between them!

[@JerseyMikeP]

Whats the hell was the curb weight??? Then Ram is pulling what 2,000lbs more?It would be very helpful to know how much each truck weights.....because that plays a big part going up/down hills.

[@catapult182]

Like the reviews y’all do. Always watching for new ones 👍🏼