I am 64 years old. When I started playing ball golf as a teenager I can remember when 60 degree lob wedges came out. I can recall the same "training wheel" argument. Now you can't find a pro golfer who doesn't carry a lob wedge. I love the Berg because it makes certain approach shots easier. Preach the Berg love Pete!
@ogdiscgolfer5 ай бұрын
That's spot on! I almost talked about the belly putter or the giant Niblick as two other clubs that kind of have that same cloud over them as far as being training wheel clubs or how about when the Big Bertha came out... it is too big/cheating :-) thanks so much for watching
@user-f1j2h5 ай бұрын
Pete, You are the man!
@ogdiscgolfer5 ай бұрын
Thanks... now can you please tell my wife that... she has her doubts... :D
@bakerby5 ай бұрын
You win the opening segment bit. Congratulations. There are discs I believe that starters should use (Mako3, River…), but I wouldn’t suggest the Berg to a beginner player. You did a very good job of refuting the arguments made by Robby, without getting personal. Congratulations. (I think the ‘training wheels’ is an innocuous insult, but an insult still the same). I spent years making beautiful origami when my children were younger-it never translated into paper airplane folding. One day. As an undiagnosed ADHD student I learned to sit in the front of the class to avoid distractions. Maybe that is why I could never fold airplanes.
@ogdiscgolfer5 ай бұрын
Now you know why I was laughing about your intro comment the other day. Actually, I learned with my ADHD that I actually did better sitting up front... dang it. So now when I go to a church that I am not working in the back AV area, I sit on the front row so i don't get distracted by the rest of the people. I also totally agree with you about beginner discs... and now all I can think about is the pizza commercial where he tries to do origami with box...Thanks!
@mikelaaaaarry5 ай бұрын
Well done video, Pete! The Berg is the people's brick! - Mike L.
@ogdiscgolfer5 ай бұрын
And you are the peoples goober! Thanks for your thoughts on-camera.
@BergNerd5 ай бұрын
Nice vid. People love to hate on the Berg. Especially to get views/engagement. I’m sure the hand-feel isn’t best for all hands. And it might not fit everyone’s style of throwing. But when it clicks/fits….its a beautiful relationship.
@ogdiscgolfer5 ай бұрын
Totally agree! Thanks and nice handle. :D
@masterdarkpoigaming5 ай бұрын
Robbie is awesome, buuuuuut I see so many people hating on the Berg, and I don't know why. It's a GREAT disc, and reliable is the only word that comes to mind. I'll take reliable all day, every day. Much love to Pete and Robbie, you guys are both reasons I've found great discs that I would've otherwise looked over.
@ogdiscgolfer5 ай бұрын
Yep, Robbie is a great guy, but the Berg is also a great disc. :D Thanks for the kind words!
@TehStrawMan11 күн бұрын
i enjoyed your take. if you think about it, all approach discs are "crutches" which exactly why we use them. Robbie also states often: "thorw the lowest speed that will get there". That seems to contradict his berg take.
@ogdiscgolfer10 күн бұрын
That's a really interesting point. It's true, we all use "crutches" to play disc golf, but I think the key is finding the right crutch for the job!
@Jac8335 ай бұрын
My buddy just got a soft berg interest, mostly throw harder putters but liked it
@ogdiscgolfer5 ай бұрын
it's not for everybody but I really like it!
@Jac8335 ай бұрын
@@ogdiscgolfer definitely would like to play a full round with berg
@ogdiscgolfer5 ай бұрын
If I had to choose only one disc for the short layout at Inverness, it is the Berg for sure. If you play a one this round with the Berg let me know how it goes
@Jac8335 ай бұрын
@@ogdiscgolfer what plastic and weight do u like, personally only tried a white soft berg
@ogdiscgolfer5 ай бұрын
I like the K1 soft and I throw max weight.
@ivobezuijen29695 ай бұрын
I'm always so dissapointed to see other content creators do a berg only round and dissing the short distance that it throws or critisizes the fact that it doesn't fade for shot shaping. The Berg is just a point and shoot approach disc. I like the fact that you sort of have to throw it hard all the time as opposed to powering down on another disc to control the distance, which messes up my timing (I'm not a great player). I used to use the Berg a lot, then switched to a gold-X pure and later an opto-x pure for straight upshots, which throw a bit further than the Berg. But I recently lost them and I still had my Berg lying around, and I'm loving it again. I have a k1 soft Berg, that thing just drops to the ground and sticks like glue! It's such a reliable disc, I just needed to get used to throwing it harder than my pures :D
@ogdiscgolfer5 ай бұрын
Spot on... I am not advocating Berg for every shot, but I too wish some folks would appreciate the special niche that it fills in our bag, and be fine not liking it without having to run it down. (I don't think Robbie ran it down, but I have seen others get almost giddy at how much they can dislike the Berg.) Throw what you love and love more than you throw... (might be my new catch phrase. :D) Thanks!
@ivobezuijen29695 ай бұрын
@@ogdiscgolfer Yes exactly. I'm not criticising Robbie. Some content creators have made it a vendetta to diss the Berg which I feel isn't deserved. If you don't like the Berg, don't throw it, but just acknowledge that it is a disc that has it's purpose and can do that very well if you like throwing the Berg. Similarly, don't throw a Zone OS and complaint it doesn't hold an anhyzer. Thats just not the disc for that. Doesn't make it a bad disc... I don't mind the occasional meme, but the polarity of the community towards the Berg shouldn't have a place in the (great) discgolf community. Just my 2p. Great video btw. Good luck and have a nice day!
@ogdiscgolfer5 ай бұрын
well said!
@Nousefornonsense5 ай бұрын
Right on Pete a lot of creators are berg haters and it will give you a complex. I like to throw everything but 8 out of 10 approach shots with a berg usually will result with a tap in. Case in point I made an upshot with my favorite throwing putter praxis and it ended up scooting into the Hillsborough river that looks like iced tea from Debbie and I may find it on a low tide but if I would have used the berg that wouldn't have happened. Lesson learned when a water hazard is in play just use a darn berg.
@ogdiscgolfer5 ай бұрын
Hillsborough river? Florida? Yes, I totally agree about the approach... more often when I chose another disc I wish I had thrown the Berg. Thanks!
@davismorehead24945 ай бұрын
What I can’t figure out with the berg is how to put with it. It always goes right for me. I can get it to go in if I throw it at the left side of the basket
@ogdiscgolfer5 ай бұрын
Putting with the Berg is definitely not for every one... due to the large rim and the lack of glide. I am fine with folks not liking it as a putter, even though it is my main putter switching from the Innova Birdie for my flick putts due to it being less influenced by the wind... but I am weird :D But, just like any other disc, we can get pretty good with enough practice if we get passionate about it. Thanks for watching !
@davismorehead24945 ай бұрын
@@ogdiscgolfer when you throw it for the approach you are tempted to just finish off with it. Then I noticed it was always going right, so tried practicing with it. Gave up and went back to the judge since already own 12 of those.
@ogdiscgolfer5 ай бұрын
It's funny I was gonna ask if you had a stack of Bergs to practice with. It would definitely seem smarter to stick with the judge if you have that many to practice with. Repetition definitely helps
@davismorehead24945 ай бұрын
@@ogdiscgolfer easier to find the judge in the used section
@chrisfielding5 ай бұрын
I used to think the Zone was the king of all discs within ~200 ft. Then I got ahold of a Berg. Forget numbers/glide/whatnot - it just goes where you throw it.
@ogdiscgolfer5 ай бұрын
Right onChris!
@mikelaaaaarry5 ай бұрын
Exact same for me! I still love my Zone and use it a good bit, but it's mainly off the tee these days. - Mike L. from Inverness league.
@mikehumphries60765 ай бұрын
The Berg is the Swiss Army knife of approach discs. You should always have one in your bag. It is versatile and useful!
@ogdiscgolfer5 ай бұрын
Yes indeed! Great point! thanks
@davismorehead24945 ай бұрын
Drama queen. In seriousness, agree with the training wheel statement. It does seem like he has always said if you feel confident with a disc you should throw it. I like the berg for any kind of a death approach shot. Gives be confidence
@ogdiscgolfer5 ай бұрын
I think confidence is one of the best tools for throwing well... Thanks
@brianlmoon5 ай бұрын
I heard Pete say “Robbie you suck. Aahhhhhhh”. That’s all I know. 😜 I am also friends with both Pete and Robbie.
@ogdiscgolfer5 ай бұрын
I don't know you Brian and neither does Robbie... how did you get this number? :D PS: Great job at the tournament this weekend, sorry I couldn't join you guys.
@gwen96975 ай бұрын
as a pig die hard. much love and respect 🐷 🤝 🧊
@ogdiscgolfer5 ай бұрын
Thanks! So much good plastic to play with... love the Pig! :D
@bobmcnabb435 ай бұрын
If the berg is so good Pete, why haven’t you ever given me one when I play with you? 😂
@ogdiscgolfer5 ай бұрын
it's all part of my master plan to keep you down! :-)
@homerclark95535 ай бұрын
Everyone carry’s “A” disc that does special task. So why not carry the. Berg if it does the job
@homerclark95535 ай бұрын
I love my Trash Panda inner cores for approach shots 75-125’ however 75 or less I flick the berg
@ogdiscgolfer5 ай бұрын
Yep... the Inner Core - Berg combo is a deadly duo! :D