Does The Fortin Natas Pedal Sound Like The Real Deal?

[@Veheloth]

I was fartin natas after that burrito the other day...😷

[@catalyzed8457]

That low end on the chug sounded way better than the Natas for me, i would go for the chug. I’m also glad to see youtubers starting to call out Fortin on their ridiculous price tags.

[@Gate11Studio]

I agree with you! Paying for the Fortin name. I would like to save my dollars for a chug pedal.

[@shaunlafountain7189]

What is that Poweramp pedal? Seems pretty cool

[@drinix]

That sped up dialing in the tone at the beginning was hilarious! Keep up the great work man, awesome to see how far you've come

[@spitescorner]

I've got both a Chug and a Natas, and I go to the Natas 9 times out of 10. I feel like it's got more gain with the killswitch, and the noise floor is so low I don't need the gate. I also run the Natas pretty much at noon on tone stack and use the Girth and Grind filters to shape tone for the most part. The thing slaps so hard IMO

[@TaylorDanley]

The noise floor is definitely lower on mine too, but I wasn't sure if that was the case for all of them.

[@spitescorner]

@@TaylorDanley Sometimes I forget to turn it off because I'm so used to my valvestates hissing so bad lol

[@rustynales4597]

For 300 it needs a damn effects loop for people running it into the power amp section

[@michaelyolch79]

I was debating between the CHUG and NATAS...I went with an ENGL Fireball 25 and 2x12 MESA cab because...F**K IT...pedals can't touch it! HAHA!

[@jakejones5191]

Taylor! I hear that riff that starts at about 1:24 in a lot of your videos and I freaking love it! It inspires me every time I hear it! 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼

[@DavawnAnderson]

What power amp pedal is that? I want one.

[@jww732]

In my humble opinion, I think each amp, natas, and chug offering is worth it. With that sad, I think the solar chug pedal is the best metal preamp pedal on the market today. The fact that it has resonance, presence, and a fantastic gate for what it costs is enough let alone the actual tone stack it has. I loved this video, great job taylor. Do you think maybe an EQ could dump the harsh highs and add bass ? Like a 6 or ten band maybe

[@furyinternal]

I happen to have both the chug and natas pedals and they both sound pretty awesome. My chug pedal, however, has started making a "whirring/chirping" noise that makes it unusable. I may have to get it serviced. I have used them both with a SD Powerstage 200 and, man... They rip.

[@WholeLottaBulldog]

Iso prop alcohol in the jacks and power socket. Id give that a go before sending it off. It's fixed many a misbehaving pedal in my experience

[@modernroyaljams]

There must be a way to get a great tone out of the Natas as Meshuggah are using them live at the moment and the tone they are getting this tour is absolutely brilliant. The Chug is easy to get usable tone. Nice strong pedal too!

[@sepherus]

They're using the Natas and not their own amps? Interesting. They sounded absolutely devastatingly heavy when they were using the sig heads live. I honestly didn't expect to notice a difference from their digital rigs, but I absolutely did.

[@heavenly2k]

I didnt know that about Meshuggah, very interesting

[@Slamthulhu]

Where did you hear that? Last I heard was they were using captures of their signature Fortin amps.

[@XMetalChefX]

Meshuggah use Axe FX live and also Kempers that capture the Fortin Meshuggah. They do not use NATAS live

[@Filterbear]

Hello, what about the SLO pedal 😊

[@stevemoore1698]

Hey Taylor. Oregon Steve here. I ran my Chug through a 6505+=effects loop. And a Marshall DSL100&DSL20=effects loop and man, I could not get a high tone out of it at all. Definitely 80's/steel panther tone lol, but nothing like what you're getting. I've been thinking of the nataS for awhile. Currently using a DSL1H/Mesa 2x12/Boss Metal Zone,/Boss EQ7/Boss NS and that's a pretty killer tone that's hard to beat for me.

[@derekhensley4145]

That chug pedal sounded great

[@Lukasz_KLAT]

I have Fortin NATAS pedal and SATAN tube module for Synergy/Randall RM amps from Salvation Audio and these two are completely different beasts. Different voicing of eq, different way of how girth/grind works, way more gain and shitton more of bass in NATAS. If you hated Satan for being too thin compared to Dual Rec - you'll love Fortin NATAS. If you love Satan for its "sounds like modern Marshall pushed with modern RAT" - you wont find it in NATAS pedal. Sold my Ampeg SS150 and NATAS fills my void for "absurdish amounts of gain". It can take your low gain Marshall or Bogner into Meshuggah territory - it works as a booster too.

[@TaylorDanley]

Thanks for turning me on to this, I've never heard of them before. I'm going to see if I can get a hold of some of these modules, they look cool!

[@XMetalChefX]

The Chig is a preamp based on The Satan, whoch os a custom tuned Natas to Olas Specs. The Natas just does the straight Natas thing.

[@altpath]

Im pretty sure ola (without any solid evidence for it) probably had the chug pedal designed to sound similar to the satan. For the price of a Natas pedal though, I'd rather get a KSR ceres pedal used. They can be found on reverb for $300-350.

[@TaylorDanley]

Probably. I mean the low/high gain thing is pretty unique

[@saboc2000]

Probably the difference in price is reflective of where the pedal is made. As far as I know Fortin's pedals are all made in the USA, while I would assume the Chug pedal is probably made in Asia. If this is true, I can understand charging a difference of $100 for a made in USA product.

[@hannibalbarkas1350]

a big tube power amp has way more oomph and depth but the mid range and highs are pretty close.

[@DigitalDistortedGuitars]

Maybe series: Rate my Tone wil be good idea?

[@sepherus]

Fortin had definitely cultivated an image of "we cost more than the competition, so we must be the best" pretentious elitism. I've definitely never thought any of their products were worth what they ask, and their amps are impossible to find in the real world for working musicians. Mike has some shady past business practices, but he's definitely outgrown those initial controversies and is doing his own thing, which he does well. I'm not sure he does it 25% price increase better than the competition though. That all being said, I thought the Chug and the Satan sounded better. The Natas definitely had this underlying high end fizz that seemed to not be able to be dialed out. It's been that way on every demo I've watched. The bass got really nasty in a bad way too. Great riffs and playing as always. It's alway great to see This Heavy Earth stuff represented too. Great dude, great products, and they look awesome to boot.

[@JimZarasOfficial]

Cool video. But going back and forth to compare the sound of natas with chug, they sound completely different. I could have liked to listen an A/B comparison.

[@christophermichaels4144]

Isn’t olas pedal and the natas the same thing

[@michaelyolch79]

There are times (like the fast riff that begins at 2:41) where the NATAS sounds like there's an entire base layer of loud white noise/static just laying under all the actual playing. Very unpleasant sounding and horribly non-articulate. I was JUST about to order this pedal just before I clicked on this video. Not sure what to do now. CHUG instead?!?!?! HELP!!!

[@IllusionaryFuneral]

I think that’s because of his speakers, it sounds much better in other demos on KZbin.

[@michaelyolch79]

@ It’s all good…I went with an Empress Heavy Menace anyway…and it’s killer! 😃🎸

[@jesseparrish9198]

What's going on with that boss katana / harley benton stack back there?

[@TaylorDanley]

Haha... it's just chillin. It's not intentionally a stack like that, I just needed somewhere to put all that stuff.

[@jesseparrish9198]

@@TaylorDanley make a video of them together 😉

[@Durkhead]

That's the setup I want it's the best sounding stack for the money

[@Durkhead]

Ola made a video on it, the ultimate live rig for $600

[@smeemusic]

I have wanted to enjoy the fortin Satan and now the natas but it’s just not for me. Which is weird to say because it sounds like this amp would do nu metal like a champ and I quite enjoy nu metal.

[@smeemusic]

Oh yeah the chug is a much better value in all the ways that matter most.

[@TaylorDanley]

Yeah the amp is pretty cool... I like most things about it, but it is super tempermental and you really have to know what you are doing with each knob tweak because it can go sideways really quick.

[@JoshuaRebis]

I like both pedals both are sick.

[@Fresh_I.S.C.]

can you give a link to that power amp pedal?

[@chrisloud1976]

Hey Taylor, lots of gain. I’d like to hear it through a less gainy head. Maybe like a JCM 800 or something. It’s very expensive as well. Overall, nice review and sounds like a really good pedal. I like Fortin products.

[@CrushingAxes]

Man that's evil! This guitar is so cool too!

[@zakklee2556]

T in Taylor. Modify the pedal and brand it Tatas

[@TaylorDanley]

Genius 😂

[@MetalHead123345]

Am I missing something there's a solar symbol on the kill switch 🤔 love it thow

[@leemills1783]

I'll stick with the Ghenna thanks 👍

[@craiglatour-pn4jy]

I think the ghenna is the best distortion I have ever heard from a pedal.. period.

[@Epochstudios]

That's actually my feeling also on the Natas. I think fortin was cashing in on the name sake instead of making an actual awesome Natas Preamp pedal. Hell why not just do a MKII Fortin Natas. That amp smoked alot of others. It was awesome, only for them to dumb it down for Randall 😢no bueno. They should have kept it high quality but why not make the amp affordable for competitors. Put it in the Range of the 5150III stealth ya know? Idk, I don't get amp makers sometimes and I'll be the first to admit I don't understand "The Game"! But you can't tell me you can't put out a super high quality amp and a decent price! Fender 5150III are the model. Hell even the Peavey 6505 stuff.

[@Anshul1614]

Bro that pedal actually hit the spot. After a long time.

[@joehernandez6260]

Chug does it for me🤘🏼

[@Mega_trav]

Real talk- is it not just a tweaked Revv G4 pedal?

[@amaethinfernal6014]

Great honest review.. was itching to get the natas and chug... But personally both don't reach the standard of the Empress heavy. Stay Brutal 🤘

[@michaelyolch79]

I own the Empress Heavy Menace. Don't the highs sound kind of fizzy to you?

[@amaethinfernal6014]

@michaelyolch79 a little yeah. Tho I prefer a more scooped Cannibal Corpse tone, I tweak the high more with mxr eq than the Empress

[@heavenly2k]

Hey, do you mind sharing what you are doing for noise cancellation? It seems like your noise gate is super responsive without cutting out important details and I'm curious how you got that sound. Good vid regardless

[@TaylorDanley]

Which part of the video? The only time I used an extra noise gate was when I mentioned it while using the Satan pedal through the power amp. And the configuration is using both the ln/out on the noise gate as well as the loop. It’s a Lichtlaerm noise gate btw.

[@clod33]

The review that was missing on youtube. thanks man. I have the chug and won't buy the natas. but if a satan comes on the market at a decent price, i'm screwed.

[@apoplexiamusic]

I think the Chug pedal wins on all fronts here.

[@Durkhead]

You were complaining about not getting the right saturation i think it would be better if you used active pickups.

[@TaylorDanley]

That's a fair point, but I've used my Satan amp with all my guitars, and that's always the case. It's not that there isn't enough gain, it's the way it saturates... just a little too dry for me.

[@Durkhead]

@TaylorDanley I like to add a little bit of chorus effect with a slow rate and low depth, it's the only way I know to smooth out the top end if you do it right you can't tell its there I think it's what obituary does on some of their albums

[@33catch33]

Metal zone wins imo

[@metalfather8139]

Speeeded dial in is great......

[@TheGooseChaseMusic]

I'm guessing the similarities between the Chug and Natas have something to do with the Randall Satan being an Ola signature amp at some point.... But who knows lol.

[@darthj_der7447]

Dude!! Check out the Hell Melter. By EHX. Its crazy as hell.

[@molotovbatradio]

Thought it sounded pretty awful at first, but you dialled in some good sounding tones, not the best I’ve heard on your channel but you got the best out of it 🔥

[@DarrenWaters75]

.....my man really slid the Chvrchbvrner in there at the end.. LOL

[@bretttrommler756]

Y'all may laugh at me, but there's no way I would use a pedal whose name is Satan spelled backwards. Believe what you want, but that's something that shouldn't even be played with.

[@josearjona3728]

Great video!! BTW, what pedal-format poweramp is that?

[@TaylorDanley]

Thanks! It's called the higher power by this heavy earth effects.

[@lumbeecheraw75]

@@TaylorDanley how well does it perform with your Axe Fx3?

[@samuelnicolay6460]

Sure, the Natas is overpriced, like all Fortin stuff. That being said, it is well built. The Solar pedal uses cheap components. Mine started crackling after a few weeks. The conclusion is that they are both overpriced.

[@27retrodaze]

I have 2 words for ya... Revv G4! Great work, TD! 🤘

[@TaylorDanley]

Thanks dude! Yeah I probably should finally get one and check it out... it's been recommended so many times!

[@jesseparrish9198]

Get one and compare it to the demonfx clone

[@27retrodaze]

@@jesseparrish9198 is it any good? I bought the DemonFX T808/T09 TS and the 66 (Fortin 33 clone) and they both are very good for the price... I noticed they did the G3 and G4 after i bought the name brand so ive always been curious if they hit the mark...

[@jesseparrish9198]

@@27retrodaze like you said they are pretty good for the price. It's fun to have them both. I also have the precision overdrive clone by demonfx and I like that one as well.

[@ShadyLurk3r92]

rather just get a joyo dark flame for like £40 lol

[@JohnDoe-fz7hz]

Am I nuts or do you play riffs from the first Necrophobic Record ???

[@TaylorDanley]

I'm not sure what that is, but I get asked about the riffs a lot. I just have a familiar sounding style I guess 🤷‍♂️

[@JohnDoe-fz7hz]

@@TaylorDanley Thanks for your answer. Just listen to Necrophobic - the nocturnal silence. Some of your riffs sound like that

[@BlackCanvasAudio]

Not worth the price IMO. Way too muddy sounding.

[@edneyhelenedossantos1875]

Unfortunately, this pedal is super overpriced here in Europe....if we had a cheaper alternative i would definitely come to it.

[@search895]

Natas Kaupas.

[@TheCyberMantis]

Empress Heavy Menace > CHUG > NATAS

[@bradcofield7848]

This pedal sounds so generic. I wouldn’t buy it for $100 let alone $300. Honestly, never been that impressed with Fortin. The Randall Satan is super generic sounding too.

[@WeebsEatShit]

waht amp/pedal do you like?

[@ManuSDP]

Agreed

[@rossbalch]

I don't really like either pedal tbh. Not really my style.

[@JacobLima-x8d]

it sounds like a mxr fullbore metal

[@barryprosser1370]

🤘🤘🤘

[@MetalHeadHippie]

New Sub 41.9k?

[@wheresallthezombies]

This pedal really isn’t for me. Lol. That’s all I’ll say. Killer riffs though! I do like the chug pedal more for some reason, lol.

[@Epochstudios]

The fortin was poo pooin I guess shrug🤷‍♂️ not a fan which is weird cause I love the NTS plugin and the amp its self

[@MetalHead123345]

Chug pedal

[@KPGuitarStudios]

Nah bro, get rid of them both, there are so many better pedals out there. Hell, the Metal Zone sounds better :)

[@Durkhead]

I don't think the metalzone sounds better although I wish he would have compared it to it

[@KatieCatfish]

Do you like the Marshall AVT 150 ,, BETTER THAT THAT ? 👶🎤🙏

[@KatieCatfish]

Chug Chug Chug 👶🎤🙏🍺

[@shadyburnike264]

I spend too much money..lol

[@KatieCatfish]

Kukulkans say they the spooky action from a distance move V time GODS 👶🎧🙏👶🎧🙏👹🎤🙏

[@KatieCatfish]

I've been Swiss Cheese Sandwiches Framed 👶⛑️🥪🙏🖼️