Does this gun deserve its name?

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@garandm1d 2 ай бұрын

Great video...U.S.shooter here...the 11-87 is what it is ... For its time & price point, i don't think you could do much better...as for today, you'll pay three times as much for an auto that has a little bit more reliability. If you're starting out you have a gun that will work if it's kept clean, i found that Break Free CLP really helps with reliability. The unburned power doesn't adhere to the lubricant, working in the coldest of weather. If you want to grow with one, there are many adjustable stocks that allow one to fit the gun to anyone's body. Its also one of the few guns that came in a left hand version. I've passed mine to my son & he does very well with it . On the trap range there are a variety of shell catchers for singles, or just use a rubber band. I never shot 7/8 oz loads thru mine, but 1 ounce loads always worked well. Most guys use 1 1/8 ounce loads, and they always work well . Never push the pins to the right, the magazine stop is only staked in, and if you do have reliability issues, try cleaning or replacing the recoil spring in the stock.About everything that can go wrong can be fixed with a $20 replacement kit. Jerry Kuhnansen wrote the definitive book on anything and everything about the whole 1100,11-87 and 870 family. Definitely a must own book , even if one doesn't grace your cabinet, I'm pretty sure that someone you know owns one.

@felixd7818 2 ай бұрын

I’ve owned several over the last 36 years. When the 11/87 came out the only real competition in the US was Beretta and the Browning A5. Also, the state of steel loads was rather poor at that time. Shooters were still learning how to shoot them. In a goose pit or duck blind the 11/87 was a welcomed addition. We learned quickly that the guns worked best when the action and gas system was well lubricated. The action springs would need to be replaced every few years, and expect action bars and shell stops to break.

@n-signia1087 2 ай бұрын

I was graciously gifted a first generation Remington 1100 12 gauge by my father a few years ago. He bought it around 30 years ago when he was my age, and he hauled it out of storage after sitting in a garage for about two decades. Cleaned off a bit of oil, and it still shoots just as good as it did before its retirement. He was a pretty big gun guy back when he was a young man, but he sold off his entire collection save fore that one to buy my mom her wedding ring. And when I brought it out to take my mom shooting all those decades later, we discovered that the 1100’s serial number was the same as her birthday. So that’s why we named it “Lizzie”.

@parrisgeorge9708 2 ай бұрын

Johnny thanks for the video. One of the things I'd like to point out is that although there isn't a national proof house as such here in the states the major manufacturers all proof their firearms in accordance with SAAMI specs. In the case of 23/4 12 gauge shells the proof pressure is a shade under 20,000 psi. When Remington was building their firearms well they would proof test the firearm and then run whatever the magazine capacity of the firearm was. I've been in the gallery and have watched workers proof and function test racks of 870's, 1100's, 1187's, etc. Once the firearm passed proof and function each firearm was then stamped with a proof stamp and the employees personalized stamp. It was pretty cool to watch how quickly and professionally these people did their thing. It was also one of the jobs in the Remington plant where more senior people tended to work due to the nature of the job. One big problem with all Remington firearms these days is that due to the demise of the company and such spare parts have become problematic to find AND vultures that have the parts charge a very big markup on them.

@dgoodman1484 2 ай бұрын

The Model 1100 holds the record for the most shells fired out of an autoloading shotgun without malfunction, cleaning or parts breakage with a record of over 24,000 rounds. The record was set in 1978 with a Remington model 1100 LT-20. 👍🏼

@AwlDeigh 2 ай бұрын

Have one…it was a solid shotgun in its day…won it at a Jeep classic shoot many years ago for HOA..came with “presentation “ grade” wood

@rogersgordon3208 2 ай бұрын

I purchased my first 1187 in 1987 and another in 1997. I did break an extractor on the 87 model but both have been awesome guns.

@JRriffin 2 ай бұрын

I bought one of those at Kmart, 199.00 , 1974, still have it, never jammed once. 1100 model.

@DarrenMossman 2 ай бұрын

I remember well when steel shot was becoming enforced and many water fowl hunters bought an 11-87

@Mauser304 2 ай бұрын

Just a comment and not intended to disagree or create arguments, but In the United States, shotguns are not proofed by a central authority. Instead, American manufacturers voluntarily proof their firearms with individual manufacturer's proofmarks.

@barrybrooks6235 2 ай бұрын

Another great video, Johnny. I always appreciate your reviews of semi-autos, and especially this old classic. I have an 11-87 Premier with factory camo wood furniture. It may not be my first choice for busting clays with my friends, but it will always be in my collection. (Barry, SC, US)

@darrenlowry7477 2 ай бұрын

I have friends who bought that gun when it came out. He still uses it to this day for hunting.

@patrickbrophy5310 2 ай бұрын

I got an 11-87 Premier for my 16th birthday MANY years ago. It was a new design, had been out a couple years when I got it. Never had any issues with it at all. Shot it very well. Mine had the regular weight barrel, not the light contour, and I preferred the standard after owning an example of each. Had the anodized aluminum trigger group, not the later one which is painted with a gold trigger. Lastly, the older ones had the original style piston rings, not the later snap together style. No engraving except the word “Premier” on the receiver. I really wish I still had it honestly.

@christopherwong9309 2 ай бұрын

I bought an 1187 "premier" last year as my first S/A. Surprisingly as far as I have noticed, not had any rust issues. Did have the first failure to eject the other week when I was using it in a Sec2 PSG competition, but to be fair, I hadn't been doing much more than scrubbing the barrel every couple hundred. Fully agree about the loading ramp though - even worse when you're trying to use it for PSG. There is a chap in the states that makes aftermarket loading ramps that bring it up to "modern" spec, but seeing as I now have the S1 slot, I just bought a Stoeger M3k instead!

@pastorzhhicks Ай бұрын

You gotta love a channel that can show you shotguns that cost as much as a car and then show you this, and show appreciation for both.

@TolerablyInterested 2 ай бұрын

My hatsan also has a rattle, except I'm pretty sure it's the barrel shaking loose 😂

@RobertParker-v7v 2 ай бұрын

I had an 1187 Special Purpose for my first decent shotgun. It was fine and fairly reliable if kept clean. Great for informal "barn yard skeet."

@AwlDeigh 2 ай бұрын

Well done video and perspective..nice change of pace

@DFox-ud3gx 2 ай бұрын

Nice gun jonny the only thing I ever replaced on a 1187 was the O-ring inside the gas operation chamber I bought the silver O-ring at Brownells gun company. To replace the original black gas O-ring. I did sell my semi 1187.

@NotALot-xm6gz 2 ай бұрын

The old 1100s were great, though top competitors had a spare in their car and a spare set of gas seals.

@ChristopherRoberts-yi5gp 2 ай бұрын

I bought one of these in 1995 for £600 new.I had it for 10 years before trading it in for a Miroku,it never had a misfire,although I changed the O rings if they started to look worn and it remains the only gun that I regret selling-

@Igori_84 2 ай бұрын

what kind of barrel drilling? 18.6 or 18.4 or 18.3 mm? On Beretta Gray Stone drilling 18.2!

@Grant_901 2 ай бұрын

Nice review of a less popular model. They all do have their quirks. Thanks for sharing

@karlsailor 2 ай бұрын

An 11-87 was my first gun. Still have it. Haven't shot it since getting into quality guns (English sxs's) years ago

@AlexP-hl4wn 2 ай бұрын

This for me is where the UK gun market is great - for £200 or £300 you can buy stuff which is a bit unusual, try it, and if it works for you keep it to play with, and if it doesn’t move it on and buy something else with the same money. An 1100 is on my list for when I see one which needs some love for the right money, to sit alongside my Auto 5…

@sonicrose8430 Ай бұрын

“One more stand” *shoots half a skeet round* lol

@seanwa1 2 ай бұрын

I am very much interested in which semi auto you have. You mentioned it in the video.

@Joshua-yr2fz 2 ай бұрын

I just bought an 11-87 2 3/4, 3 inch gun at a local gun show for a cup of coffee. Don’t know why. It rattles just like you show. It has the 26 inch barrel and is rather a well swinging gun. This a Remington l. That is an attempt to build something cheaper than the competition. It will make a good loaner and beater gun.

@petermitchell9551 2 ай бұрын

they used to make the 1100 in a tournament grade not any about now they were finished better parts were polished more than a standard 1100

@tadsmith477 2 ай бұрын

Not a bad price for one in that condition. A new 1100 Sporting is around $1400 with low use guns like yours going for $700-800 where I live. The model I prefer is the Competition model with the synthetic Jack West adjustable stock. While I have no problem with function, the stock dimensions are so bad the only way I would be able to shoot one would be with an adjustable. Sadly, Jack West retired a number of years ago. Someone reportedly took over the manufacture of his design but I don't believe he has a website and only sells them through Facebook.

@funkla65 2 ай бұрын

The Jack West stock design moved to Bill Davis Enterprises in CA, but Bill passed a couple years ago. His nephews since resumed production, with distribution through Pete's Stock Works in NY.

@dowdawg 2 ай бұрын

Got an 1100 and just love it!!!

@josephbucci484 2 ай бұрын

I have two. Both hunters. Been reliable if kept clean. They will slow down in the cold with too much oil.

@carlrees5574 Ай бұрын

that forend looks like a fence post has been grafted onto the gun.

@sorrysirmygunisoneba 2 ай бұрын

Shooting glasses! What brand are they? Also fantastic video as always

@parrisgeorge9708 2 ай бұрын

@@sorrysirmygunisoneba Johnny runs the Edward's Eyewear glasses. TGS has a video out on them.

@sorrysirmygunisoneba 2 ай бұрын

@@parrisgeorge9708 what a hero, thank you!

@deadcell8081 2 ай бұрын

My old man’s 1100 also has the rust problem. You just barely look at it and the finish rusts up. Shoots well though

@paulmartin6152 2 ай бұрын

You need a Briley weight cap to make it shoot AAA. The only problem with any semi is the gun clubs require you to pickup your empty hulls. I have the 12 and 20 wanted the 28 and 410. But $$$$.

@spotontheroad1 2 ай бұрын

Another cool vid. I don't like Semi-autos but I enjoyed this. How about a video idea for you when you want to do something silly... The question/challenge is: Will a handmade stock and fore-end, proper gun fit and adjusted balance, make a Baikal in to a decent sporting clay gun? I'm sure you could charm a friendly stocker in to rising to the challenge. 😉

@nateeller2683 2 ай бұрын

They need to be run well lubricated and clean, if not they will chug. Also wouldn't buy a newer one

@gregorywillis2447 2 ай бұрын

Had one about 10yrs ago, it hurt my hand to shoot it. The grip was too slender for my chubby hands, traded it in for an AL391.

@ditzydoo4378 2 ай бұрын

Sight unseen, was it??? 0~o soooo a "Pig in a Poke" as it were. >~< Hard rubber recoil plate? Weeeelll at one time that was a soft rubber pad. but Remington pad is notorious for morphining into faux Hockey puck. Swap it out for a Kick-Eze, or Hogue "U-Grind" and bobs your uncle.

@Jolly56Roger 2 ай бұрын

ye carnt get parts

@gimp6019 2 ай бұрын

The one gun I wish I had never traded. 1187 Left-Handed.

@CanadianWaterfowler 2 ай бұрын

Never shot one of those, but shot several 1100 models (even one in 20ga) and I have to admit, they were absolutely lovely. (At one point I even considered buying one for myself... Don't worry, I didn't!)

@CCH-R 2 ай бұрын

Why they are great

@Andy_Nick 2 ай бұрын

Try a Browning Maxus Sporting Clays if you can get your hands on one. Another auto that claims the "sporting clays" name. I have one, love it.

@1814norway 2 ай бұрын

My main gun is the 694. But from time to time, I bring out my 78 mod 1100 12g just for fun. And I shoot just as good with the 1100 as the 694.

@varney2010 2 ай бұрын

I have a 1100 made in the seventies which is incredibly reliable. Far superior than any of the Turkish stuff that you see everywhere.

@Fendermanpaul 2 ай бұрын

Just one name Duncan Lawton. Look him up. First ever 100 straight sporting.

@hoilst265 2 ай бұрын

My left ear enjoyed this.

@heycidskyja4668 2 ай бұрын

As did my right.

@nhrunjumpthrow 2 ай бұрын

I have owned an 11-87 Premier for years and recently bought an a400 to see what a 'modern' gas gun is like. Well, I now see the genius of the 1100/1187 design and feel it is superior to the a400.

@johnmarzullo6545 2 ай бұрын

If you shoot a lot they just don't hold up, don't get me wrong their nice guns if you shoot once a month or a few times a year get one, if you shoot every week, it's not going to hold up.

@mikew3443 2 ай бұрын

Maybe the newer ones. My 1969 1100 is very reliable only things I ever replaced was the O ring (around 45-50,000 & 90,000 rnds) and a hammer at 120,000 (dented by firing pin ,more mind over matter, no mis fires) now about 140,000 rounds. Sadly I only shoot it once or twice a year. Thinking about another o ring. Some day!

@JimBrown-w6i 2 ай бұрын

Own 2, my go to gun in the semi auto's, alot of ducks and clay birds, workhorse 100%

@brianlloyd7821 2 ай бұрын

Not bad not great just a remmington it works

@KathrynLiz1 2 ай бұрын

1100s are pretty good guns as a rule.

@donaldmcleod7494 2 ай бұрын

It’s a culture thing. Europeans love the o/u America loves the pump/semi.

@the45er 2 ай бұрын

IMHO there are so many better options for autoloading sporting clays guns out there that this one doesn't deserve much attention. Remington was once a great company that made great products. Those days are long gone.

@deasttn 2 ай бұрын

Well, this one was made 27 years ago.

@dgoodman1484 2 ай бұрын

Which one can be had for 400 pounds?

@BrokenBarBox 2 ай бұрын

You’re right. We should completely ignore older guns and focus only on the new new…

@basshnter1997 2 ай бұрын

There has been no stability at Remington after Dupont sold it back in 93.

@dave_724 2 ай бұрын

Saying an over under is more reliable to me isn’t a valid point I bought a new 686 sp1 as my first gun new and it never worked and various other cheap O/U guns after nothing has been as reliable as my franchi affinity it took 60 thousand cartridges before it started jamming I could never bring my self to buy a cheap Turkish auto I’d much rather a known quality gun a 1100 or old beratta would be my choice on a budget