Does This Infection Only Affect Children? | Diagnosis Unknown | Real Responders

Examining a case in December 1999 in which a rare form of bacterial meningitis appeared twice in Alberta, Canada, proving shocking and deadly for this small community.
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[@vivianblack2799]

My sister was babysitting a beautiful 2 and a half year old girl and her baby brother 9 months old. The little girl had a cold but it was getting worse so my sister called the parents at the restaurant and asked them to come home. They refused because they thought she was overreacting. She called home and my mom and dad rushed the girl to the hospital. That sweet little bright eyed curly headed child died early the next morning of meningitis. My sister never babysat again. That was 60 years ago. If your child has a fever and a stiff neck, get them help right away. Ask them to touch their chin to their chest. If they can't do that, it's one indication of the disease, but it if in doubt always just have it checked out.

[@melanytodd2929]

💔

[@cynthiatolman326]

I'm so sorry for your sister, having to deal with a precious child knowing how sick she was, but she did it exactly right, and couldn't have done more. I'm sure the parents regretted that selfish decision their entire lives.

[@vivianblack2799]

I think they just didn't know any better.

[@maremare3205]

💯 fever and stiff neck..insist on a spinal tap and do not waste time!

[@vivianblack2799]

@@maremare3205 good point this was back in the late 60's I'm not sure that it was done the

[@debbiegreen9514]

My heart aches for these families. My son was 24 when he contracted bacterial meningitis. We caught it early. We were lucky. But all of the weeks that he was in quarantine was hard for both him and me and all of his friends. It took him a couple of months for him to regain his strength because he was so weak. He was a young man that was used to working out for 2 hours twice a day to be turned back to where he was before he got sick. He was frustrated and mad. We never did find out how he got it. Sadly he passed away 3 months later. Watching this just reminded me off all that we went through. He is missed dearly. He passed away Nov 2, 2012.

[@cmmc3400]

I know how he felt Debbie. I had viral meningitis when I was 26. The health department figured I got it from mosquitos that lived in a swampy area near a home I was helping build. I though at around 4pm that the wood I had carried all day, for building the porch, was the cause of my headache and back pain I took some tylenol and waited half an hour, it didn't help. I went home, climbed into bed and at around 10 pm I told my husband I wanted to go to the hospital. Needless to say that when he refused to take me and I wasn't able to make the call myself, it was the tip of the iceberg that killed our marriage. Around 2am despite having him to gather anything in the house to reduce my pain, I had hoped to get some rest. At 6am I couldn't stand, was balled up, my chin wouldn't touch my chest, I cried because it hurt but crying made it hurt more. When he finally got a clue that this wasn't normal or going away, he half carried me to our vehicle. When I reached the hospital I was incoherent and in the most pain in my life, pancreatitis was second. The first three days they thought I was dying. I recall only second at a time of this horrible event in my life. I stayed in the hospital for 21 days and in bed 11 days after release. I live in constant fear now, afraid of mosquitos. It changed my life but not in a good way. My life has been threatened by health crisis's, people and accidents. My body is covered in scars from organ failures, one bite at a time I was being taken apart. Now, I have a very rare condition and it is painful and not curable. I guess having had meningitis did do some good, my mantra is "It could be worse".

[@sharonristau2475]

I am shocked that so many died I did not know about this disease being so dangerous. Did he die in hospital or home? Did the hospital let him out to early? Shocking I am so sorry for your loss

[@debbiegreen9514]

@@sharonristau2475 Thank you. I knew nothing about this disease until he got it. Just heard the name. He died in the ER. In my opinion they released him too soon.

[@debbiegreen9514]

@@cmmc3400 I'm sorry for all you went through.

[@cmmc3400]

@@debbiegreen9514 Thank you for that. I know just how loss stays with us for our entire lives and the best that can come from a very sad situation is the ability to understand others as they struggle. Peace and happiness wished for you and yours.

[@shoutingfactory3694]

I knew someone who had this. She felt bad after a night out with a friend, her parent thought it was because she was drunk but her friend could see it was something serious and called an ambulance, and thank goodness she did. It ended in amputation of both legs, but she thankfully survived.

[@nicolasimcox1748]

I’m the case of dawn, the first medical contact sent her home with a diagnosis of the flu but surely they would have known about the meningitis outbreak so why did they not start antibiotics straight away just in case ? I’d be mad as hell if i was dawns parents 😡💔

[@MsK-xm7vw]

My son was one of the Alberta Meningitis victims. At five he was one of an epidemic of 77 cases in Alberta. He survived but was left with severe neurological problems. Eventually, they diagnosed him as 'Mentally Retarded' and then hung us out to dry. I was planning on homeschooling him so they said they only worked with teachers and threw us away like garbage. By Junior High, I (a single mother living in poverty) paid thousands to have him retested through a private facility and they determined he had Aspergers but was 'no longer mentally retarded' so at least I could put him in school! Apparently, I was so good, that I could cure mental retardation on my own. I mean, come on. By High School, the school whoever decided there was nothing wrong with him at all (because he was so much better than a professional at diagnosis). I begged everyone in Alberta for help and received abuse in return. My son received nothing, no medical or clinical help whatsoever. Today he still suffers, and today in Alberta there is still no help, compassion, or level of care. The medical staff in Alberta working in trauma centers and emergency are second to none; but, beyond that children are treated based on economic and sociological criteria, the rest are left to flounder without care. That's the truth of the Alberta medical system and how these outbreaks, and children, were treated after the facts. Today 44% of our doctors are threatening to leave the province because of abusive government funding for health care, and in Alberta Canada, all children are vulnerable. Let's pray we don't have yet another outbreak because I wouldn't wish the way my son and I were treated in Alberta on my worst enemy!

[@tamaraj4200]

I am autistic and found Alberta services to be of no help. Now I live in Quebec and have everything I need to succeed.

[@amberblyledge7859]

Wow. Just wow. That’s like American healthcare level of bad. I am so sorry you guys have to go through that.

[@alejandroroldan6398]

I'm autistic and in Spain (where I'm from) we have the help we need.

[@joylovesyou591]

God bless you 🙂

[@douro20]

I had bacterial and viral meningitis when I was four years old. I have Asperger's syndrome as a result. I also have asthma.

[@skittstuff]

The meningitis vaccine I got in high school was one of the most painful ever for some reason, (like that one BURNED going in lol) but it's worth it knowing that should I run into meningitis, I might be better equipped to fight it off. Also, to everyone sharing stories of their experiences here - I'm so sorry. I hope you're well and that you are finding happiness somehow, even if it's a little. I know disease is a horrible thing to go through, especially when it's someone you love. You got this.

[@rachelmartin3631]

That was my thought when the Covid vaccine came out. I'd rather risk the vaccines than die of the disease.

[@BForapples-fp6vy]

Meningitis is very tough as a diseases and the vaccine is tough but necessary .

[@user-fx1fq8li5m]

I have 4 children and 0 of them ever had this vaccine and we lived in 5 different countries!!!

[@snowps1]

The meningitis vaccine immunity actually only last for 5 years. Your immunity is long gone.

[@Antiguanian]

​@@rachelmartin3631the survival rate for adults is 98%

[@scottyfox6376]

I'm wondering why ppl dislike this video ? It's an unpleasant subject & quite sad but it's also important for ppl to be aware.😷

[@jncomputers9401]

cause they think they are invincible from the virus and survived a flu

[@Springtime562]

Its the antivaxxers

[@glitchyfruit2503]

@@Springtime562 they don't like proof of vaccines saving lives

[@AS-yz2iz]

​@@Springtime562You mean the non sheeple?

[@beastshawnee4987]

my little cousin Michael Todd died at age 4 from this...He was barely 4. Barely lived. So sad for all the families.

[@sword4life576]

I'm so sorry to hear this... My son is seven years old and I can't even imagine...

[@OttiliaSerafia]

So sorry for your tragic loss 😥💔

[@spirosgretelianos417]

My heart goes out to you and your family.God bless you

[@airsickspace9272]

I’m sorry for your loss we almost lost my brother but not due to this. My brother was very young when he kept having pneumonia and asthma issues leading to him sometimes turning blue and being rushed to the ER. We decided since the air where we once lived was so bad for him that we would move and so we did. He almost immediately had improvements. It wasn’t just the air though my mom had caught RSV or RVS, not certain which way around, when she was pregnant leading to my brothers lungs being weakened. Though he also was predisposed to asthma too as my dad and I also have it we also have allergies.

[@scootermom1791]

Oh dear! That's so awful! Poor little guy. 😢😢😢😢

[@cheea5]

Come on, a medical documentary should not show defibrillating a flat lining patient. That is NOT a shockable rhythm

[@Acidfunkish]

We see this on every single medical drama around... But docus should, IMO, be held to a higher standard.

[@doriancosta6260]

Bro. All of the people on here are actors. It's fake

[@amandaroman3471]

They do things like that for dramatic effects as when we see someone die on tv we then see them doing the same “reviving” efforts but as I said it’s tv Not meant to be real and only Done by actors for dramatic effect.

[@kaseyrandall5549]

So seeing that on TV is fine like house or shows like that is fine 😊

[@michaelsadlier503]

Death should be shown as it makes people more aware of consequences of just saying you'll be ok bits just a little flue.

[@somelurker6115]

Safety regulations are written in blood. If teens you know are annoyed that they need a meningitis vaccine to go to college, remember Ryan and Dawn.

[@rebeccast.martin3681]

You would think with the second case that they would at least warn local doctors to be on a watch for it, since it is so catchy and a killer.

[@juanitarichards1074]

In NZ many cases go undiagnosed each year and many young people die. It's so easily mistaken for the flu. It has been acknowledged that doctors need further training in diagnosing this disease,

[@felicitymoore7340]

Go back and listen to the commentary. They sent a warning to all GP's in the area.

[@lynmarszal5037]

Some Dr think they are untouchable by any sort of disease and yes I have seen them do some stupid things with patients

[@watchgoose]

contagious is the word.

[@sharonristau2475]

I noticed that the doctors all but one gave antibotics immediately before before testing this slowed the disease down a little with other things. Once figured out what they were dealing with.he then helped specific medicine. I think parents should watch this video it is an education about our bodies. Time is so important with this.

[@robertherrick5987]

A major cause of bacterial meningitis is middle ear infection leading to mastoiditis and then the bacterial meningitis. The middle ear infection is also a secondary disease. The primary disease is dryness and irritation of the ocular surfaces. The ocular services are the only services of the body that must stay constantly moist. Unfortunately, 2/3 of humanity including infants and children and adults have dryness of the eyes because the lachrymal excretory pump is greater than 10× too active and this pumps the eyes dry. The brain responds by creating thick mucus in the restroom track trying to save the tears but this causes congestion throughout the respiratory tract including the middle ears and also hay fever and asthma, sinus congestion and sinusitis, and recurrent pneumonia. Fortunately, the Dry Eye is curable by occluding the tear drainage systems. The upper lids should be treated first after testing first with collagen plugs in the tear drains in all four tear drains. All these symptoms tend to clear in 15 to 30 minutes. Based on this testing permanent treatment is performs treating the upper lives first. The middle ears clear out without having to insert ventilation tube through the Eardrums. This is all part of prevention and cure instead of treating symptoms and complications. On google go to “treatment of lacrimal System dysfunction“ for complete details about better than 20 diseases greatly improved or cured. God bless!!!!!

[@katedart707]

This is terrifying. I remember one of the high schoolers at my K-12 school caught this when I was in elementary school, and my parents told me to let them know if my neck ever started to feel tight or sore. I was paranoid about a sore neck for months after that. The meningitis vaccine I got as a teenager hurt like hell, but I'm glad I was protected against this awful disease.

[@markarca6360]

The bacteria that causes meningococcal meningitis and meningococcemia is Neisseria meningitidis, and the preferred antibiotic of choice is doxycycline.

[@bulletsfordinner8307]

@Gemma Saint there are other antibiotics for it. I'm also allergic

[@sigsin1]

Ugh. Doxy causes such severe nausea.

[@ekramer2478]

I watched and live in tutored a pair of kids who had had meningitis and forgotten how to read/do math/etc. Boy was like 10, girl like 7. This was mid eighties. It is NO joke. Were no vaccines for it then. Both kids almost died.

[@cherylmailloux9647]

Dawn would have had a real fighting chance if the stupid doctor would have kept her there for observation The first time they brought her to the hospital!! 😪

[@vibrantchill7212]

There was a meningitis outbreak my freshman or sophomore year of college and everyone needed to get vaccinated. I avoided the shot and meningitis both, but my friends all whined about how sore their arms were for days after. My BFFs mom also got it and almost died. She lost a huge chunk of her memory and has ongoing issues to this day. That was in 2014!

[@scootermom1791]

That's so sad for your best friend! Why did her mom get it? Didn't she get the vaccine? Or was there one available when her mom got it? I haven't watched this episode, yet, but I did see something about this in the Untold Stories of the ER series. If I remember correctly, the vaccine has to be given during a certain time period. However, I could be thinking about a different disease. Anyway, if that was the case where your friend's mom was outside of the age range (if there is one), then I apologize for my ignorance.

[@hellobirdie0617]

Please tell me you regained your senses after your friends mother almost died. Get vaccinated, you are putting everyone around you at risk. Selfish.

[@dopplerthesexybeast]

Pretty irresponsible of you to shirk the vaccine.

[@AS-yz2iz]

Good for you avoiding the shot.

[@MrErikchaugen]

If this isn't the best example for why vaccines are important,i don't know what is!!

[@williamjones8640]

I have just had 4 COVID shots over time and I am doing really awesome.

[@kpl-CA]

Anti vaxxers simply do not care about "collateral damage", including kids.

[@AS-yz2iz]

​@@williamjones8640For now.

[@travisbrewer5391]

KZbin, if you are going to stream classic tv shows and interrupt them with commercials, you could at least do us the courtesy of placing them in the original commercial break spots.

[@markmitchell450]

That is annoying as at least then you'd not have the video randomly interrupted

[@gabby20]

get youtube premium and you get no annoying ads. Just pay 15,00 a month and it's worth it...sorry I'm not making an advertisment :)

[@carljohnston7527]

I live in Edmonton Alberta, where the U of A Hospital is located; the Stollery children's hospital is part of the same building, as is the fairly recent addition of the Mazankowsky heart institute; all of these places are top notch health facilities....if they can't fix it, nobody can! That being said, I'm a father of three and we had some medical emergencies with them and it was always very stressful; I can't imagine what how we would have felt if one of our children died of meningitis.

[@kpl-CA]

Stollery (Edmonton) & the Alberta Children's Hospital (Calgary) *share* cases. It's utterly common for Stollery to not be able to "handle" complex treatment for a case while ACH can, and the reverse is also true. The hospitals in Canada have *specialized teams*, they do not try to do absolutely *everything*. We simply don't have the population, funding and staff to offer extremely high skill treatments or programs (say for example keyhole Neurosurgery, or Pediatric Hospice) in all centers. "Hearts" (congenital heart defects) go to Stollery, while "Brains" (Neurosurgery) go to the Alberta Children's Hospital. It's also common for some cases to involve Sick Kids (Toronto) or GOSH (London) to bring in more expertise. Very complex cases often consult with/are transferred to Sick Kids, and rare disease kids may have the local Children's Hospital, SK *and* the NIH (US) working on their case. A few cases get local, and Sick Kids, and a consulting Physician from European hospitals, especially for certain genetic disorders that are more common in certain populations (that would be the case for one of our kids). The system works well, more minds often means more answers, more research, more ideas... less grandstanding, and a *lot* less "profit before patients".

[@akiko7298]

A former college classmate of mine died in her mid-20s from meningitis.

[@bansidheaz]

I can't help but wondering if this same situation happened again now, how many people would refuse to get the vaccine...

[@kimlarso]

If u research the history of polio, the outbreak was made worse bc (allegedly) 10,000 vaccines contained the live virus & escaped the lab & 10,000 were infected =given the age group of people who get ‘men’ are college age (a vaccine req upon entering college) & those most likely around them (siblings, parent, grandparent but especially the same age group)…..influenza was also eradicated until it escaped the lab in the 1970’s ….an the flu disappeared during covi hunh=and now, as kk kinds of diseases are popping up: meningococcal & monkey pox…pneumonia’s like legionella outbreak in Flint Michigan kept quiet ….hand & foot disease in Australia etc, etc

[@xanthesmith9194]

Many I believe, just like covid, they would believe it was nothing because it hadn’t effected them badly

[@amberkat8147]

Or parents refuse to let their kids be vaccinated.

[@tracyphillips6237]

Unfortunately, I do have a child injured by a vaccine, he had an unknown allergy to a component in the vaccine. I am not anti Vax, but sometimes it isn't advisable if a child reacted to the first Vax and almost died in a hospital. I did get 8 out of my 9 kids the vaccine for meningitis. The risk was very rare I was told , but it happened to my child . Try to be kind before you judge others and lump me in that pool of anti vaxers .

[@thrgost]

​@@tracyphillips6237that's a choice you and your Dr have to discuss and a decision you have to live with. My son is allergic to practically everything, and since he was born prematurely with lung disease, he's catching everything, including COVID 4 or 5 times. But because of these (and other) issues, it was recommended he get vaccinated in hospital under the supervision of his consultants. This is what I've chosen to go with, I'm not sure he'd have survived COVID otherwise. Poor fella was just so ill. But he's my only and I have a surgeon for a mom, and myself have two doctorates and a masters in science.

[@TimeaWebster]

I just want to add if someone is flatlining you can't defibrillate anything! There is no electric activity to defibrillate. The defibrillator is only used if someone is in cardiac fibrillation.

[@amandaroman3471]

Typical tv death hospital scenes... not meant to show you how the medical team ACTUALLY work but Rather to show a death dramatically for the show or movie it’s in. I guess bc it’s Based on true stories many people lose sight that it’s just actors doing a show... no different than any Hollywood movie really.

[@kjetillangauer2816]

Thanks captain obvious

[@snakebitepellehue]

Can I ask what do actually DO? I'm really curious.

[@TimeaWebster]

@@snakebitepellehue what I'm doing? ER and OR nurse and product specialist cardiology and cardiac surgery.

[@snakebitepellehue]

@@TimeaWebster No, I meant what do you do when someone is flatlining if you can't defibrillate?

[@SpiceyCreature]

Even the nonfatal meningitis is no joke, came down with it AND the flu my senior year of high-school, it was horrible! It felt like a hammer was being taken to every inch of my head, and looking at the light made it 10x worse.

[@SevereWeatherCenter]

The flu you had might of actually caused caused your non-fatal meningitis. You likely had viral meningitis caused by the flu.

[@scootermom1791]

Oh my goodness! You poor kiddo. That's sounds so awful! Did other classmates get it, too? Do you know how you got it? Were you able to graduate that year?

[@nerysghemor5781]

What I don't understand is why this wasn't a standard immunization. It was required for college only a year later than this.

[@just_some_internet_guy]

Most likely $$$

[@sharonristau2475]

Great Question how come?

[@onepawatatime7925]

This was probably the reason they instated that rule.

[@sherimao6989]

Healthcare in Canada is free

[@Suisfonia]

@@sherimao6989 No it's not, you are paying for it through taxes and other methods. That is not free.

[@marleybedford8628]

Meningicoccal B (2) or C...A friend put her son to bed one night. He had a bit of a cough. The next morning he was dead from B (2). He was 5 years old. Another friend provided respite care for a teenager who contracted meningococcal C. She survived but was so hideous to look at two previous prospective careers refused to become involved. My friend took her on in the most loving manner. This young lady looked as if she had been burned alive. She was totally dependant yet this poor soul had full facilities. Her parents deserted her because she was so terribly disfigured. Her grandmother devoted herself to her life long care. This is a warning; Get you children immunised.

[@shaebarnes9024]

Oh how could a parent do that to their child

[@RICDirector]

Thats....obscene. if she is somewhere you can do so, please give her my best wishes.

[@tonytlreeves]

No parent should ever have to watch their child suffer & die!!! 💔🥺😭

[@wendycarstens9970]

AMEN TO THAT INDEED 👍👍🙏🙏😇😇😥😥 GOD BLESS THE LITTLE CHILDREN WHO ARE IN THE HANDS OF JESUS AND THE ONES LEFT BEHIND ON EARTH TO CARRY ON WITH THEIR LOVED ONES , AMEN

[@nanditasmithback7636]

she also shouldnt be breaking down and crying because she has to be strong for her son .

[@fandomtrash7505]

@@nanditasmithback7636not everyone can be strong 24/7 though, it’s not how peoples brains work. Honestly it’s not healthy either, expressing your emotions is way healthier then holding them in.

[@bevindolan6237]

Interesting I am thankful to that family. We went thru menningalcoccal in 92 my son is an amputee w brain injuries and severe seizure disorder. It's a devastating illnesd!

[@hummingbird2254]

I'm so sorry that son was so severely affected. ❤

[@SapphirasMama]

I remember when we had an outbreak here in NSW Australia in the early 2000's. I remember the kids had either survived but ended up with missing limbs or sadly passed away. We were all told not to share anything with each other and to vaccinate again the other strains but there was no vaccine for that strain. It was scary at the time thats for aure

[@kaseyrandall5549]

Think it made its way to nz yoo

[@scootermom1791]

So heartbreaking for all who got it and their parents!

[@glutinousmaximus]

33:03 ... "With just under ten cases..." ~ did he mean *nine* by any chance?

[@SweetTikTokLife]

ikr!

[@MultiFabulous14]

I was really thinking this was a new thing in 2020... little did I know the outbreak was a 8 months before I was born in 1999😅

[@hannah-ebonychristie-phill4592]

This is sad, I was born with Group B Streptococcus Meningitis and I also contracted Septicaemia which caused my blood to clot. This is a serious and deadly disease and in a matter of moments you can get extremely ill and sometimes cause death, leave people with learning disabilities and even physical disabilities. I am thankful to God that I have all my limbs and are able to do what I can do with my limbs and I am so. It is best for people get help Immediately if you are someone you know gets help from the hospital before it’s too late. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽😊😊

[@1984cuddles]

I was three when I got diagnosed with this am alive because of a very vigilant neighbor who was a nurse and knew I didn’t have just the flu. She warned my mom to go to the er.

[@Sassy2025]

I've never kissed my children on the lips, and never shared a drink with them, and taught them to never share a drink with anyone. Just being protective.

[@snowbunny783]

What? Did you ever kiss your husband on the lips 😂 precaution one thing, but wow

[@NotWoke777]

@@snowbunny783one day you will know that fear and let’s see what you do. Idiot for mocking someone.

[@vxCOCOxv]

27:00 City of Edmonton, shows St. Albert.. 😂 I live just outside Edmonton, it’s a little weird but kind of in awe, seeing your own city depicted on here!

[@anablackwood6141]

I got the meningitis vaccine at 18 before going to college. My arm was a little bit sore but I felt headachey and nauseated for a couple of days (that was a real downer when I was trying to have a graduation party). I'd still rather go through those mild nuissances than get the real thing. I've been religious about keeping our family's vaccines up to date including my daughter's.

[@scootermom1791]

Yeah, that's much better than getting the illness itself. I feel bad for anyone who gets it for so many reasons (especially the loss of limbs if they are blessed to recover from the illness). But the dumbest reason I feel horribly for these people is because they have to get a spinal tap. I'm sure by that point they don't even care, but I've heard spinal taps are excruciatingly painful!

[@MandyAltamirano]

Dont give the COVID vac

[@laulau194]

Crazy that people were so unaware, I feel like we were hyper aware about meningitis and telltale symptoms around this time in the UK (the second they said the first kid had a stiff neck I assumed it was meningitis).

[@DkOmbres]

I watch these shows and see how fast the response is to get vaccines out to stop the spread and how fast they work to contain it. WTH happened to the world? Why didn't counties respond this fast? Why did governments fail to get better control of covid 19? I live in the USA and I believe I know the answer for this country and why we are still dealing with it today.

[@kecrn4132]

DkOmbres - bacterial meningitis has been around for many years and is extremely different than the COVID. The COVID is new and vaccines are being worked on however it takes time....esp because of the way this virus’ physical presentation is. It is not like an influenza virus cell. And the COVID virus has not even been around for a year- if they had a vaccine for it at this early time, then there would be a very serious issue and as an ICU RN, I certainly would NOT be getting it.

[@DkOmbres]

@@kecrn4132 Thank you and thanks to ALL medical staff that have been on the front line of this. I wish I could do more to show my gratitude for all the work you all are doing. I know that meningitis has been around for a long time and I know it takes time to make vaccines. My post was more on the fails from our country leaders in responding and working together on this. As well the public that have disregarded the warnings and measures to help limit it. Again, thank you for your work and responce to the post.

[@susanmetz9892]

COVID has been around since 1965. Google the history of it. It wasn’t considered deadly enough or widespread, therefore, a vaccine was not a priority. Typically, vaccines take many years to get right. I think it would be a horrible thing if every man who received the vaccine became impotent or woman were no longer able to lactate (extreme examples) .

[@StoicVeR]

well, you get a bunch of twats (roughly 530 estimated) that think 1920s was a swinging time. Then you get rid of your Pandemic Response division, because who needs that? Tacky. Then, a country displays it has problems, but you ignore that and call it a hoax. In fact, everything that particular country does is a hoax. Then you continue to ignore the problem until it goes away. Like a miracle, it'll all go away like things go away. At the end of the day, you get mad at the people asking everyone to do the bare minimal to insure the lowest contamination, while they work on the vaccine. There's still more, but I'm sure people get the picture.

[@dominiquehebert4903]

@@susanmetz9892 The first coronaviruses were isolated and identified in the early 60s, but those strains were not found to be any more of a risk than the common cold and they were treated as such. Research into coronaviruses didn't intensify again until SARS and MERS surfaced and were found to have serious symptoms and high death rates. It isn't known (yet) why some coronavirus strains are so deadly while the others are very mild. Currently there is no vaccine for SARS or MERS, thankfully COVID-19 isn't as deadly as those two but is FAR more infectious - which is why we must take so many precautions as to not overwhelm healthcare systems which would lead to unnecessary deaths.

[@crimsontidegal6332]

Why are kids not vaccinated for this with all the other vaccines they are given?

[@acgraphics1139]

Anti Vax people Also vaccine arnt always 100% And there might not be a vaccine for this there isn't vaccines for everything

[@Kai_Uhhh]

There may not be a vaccine for this yet unfortunately

[@maddiem3112]

Many children do receive the meningococcal vaccine, but it doesn’t protect against all strains of the bacteria. It is still possible for a vaccinated child to contract the bacteria of a separate strain.

[@crimsontidegal6332]

My boys were vaccinated for this right before they went to college. It was a requirement.

[@doriancosta6260]

My cousin was vaccinated for bacterial meningitis and she still got it 4 months later and almost died

[@Aprll123]

So one doesn't need to wear gloves when handling slides full of bacteria..dead or not ? lol

[@somuchluv89]

Gloves are usually for the patients benefit, not the wearer. Gloves are not the holy grail people make them out to be. Bacteria can’t penetrate intact skin.

[@jewelsa.6089]

I noticed that too

[@jewelsa.6089]

Miss Minka But Through cuts or cracks in the skins surface it can. It can also be inhaled

[@rockville2141]

He’s reading the slides, meaning slides are processed, gone through all staining chemicals. We consider those processed slides not contagious, and we can read slides bare hands. Hope this helped.

[@lollsazz]

@@somuchluv89 No, gloves ARE also for the wearer. Unless you want to constantly scrub under your nails and disinfect your hands YOU TOO need to be wearing gloves for your own protection. They also protect against chemicals, not only microorganisms. The only people who say otherwise are those that are trying to save money on gloves. Here's an OLD example of that this is not new information. Also, since viruses are much smaller than bacteria, the effect of gloves is even greater: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC120672/ Also, although both heat, methyl violet and methanol kill bacteria, i wouldn't assume they were all dead. Also, methyl violet and methanol are both highly toxic and easily absorbed through skin, so I wouldn't advice foregoing gloves when you're working with those things on a regular basis. Especially important to know if someone is pregnant.

[@NetRolller3D]

...Did they just actually *shock a flatline?!* I really hope that was artistic license...

[@racheljennings8548]

Would have Adrenaline have helped?

[@ashly1911]

I knowwww I commented that on another video like this

[@shellyslioneyes]

Are you a nurse or doctor?

[@lionelbekker3590]

It’s amazing how they need 10 people before health officials activite a vaccine program, one death is too many. It’s sounds like the health officials are doing us a favour- we pat tax for this service. It makes me very angry- sorry for all those who lost a child

[@airsickspace9272]

Well it’s more so that there are infections that are rare that you can get from stuff like soil, animals, and other stuff. For instance plague. Plague cases still happen in America but it is so rare that we find that it is better to just get the antibiotics than make a vaccine though what I talked about doesn’t take into account the seasonal outbreaks in other parts of the world that people often forget about

[@melissaharris3890]

If every time someone got a new or rare illness there was a vaccine program, I might start to believe the conspiracies. We would be getting new vaccine every month. and most wouldn't result in an epidemic.

[@tabeechey]

Meningitis? I am guessing meningitis.

[@amerahhamdi5232]

Bacterial meningitis perhaps.

[@debraodonnell4253]

It was pretty obvious but this narrator thinks we are idiots explaining things that are pretty much common knowledge or maybe it's just because I picked it up straight away

[@mazieg7072]

@@debraodonnell4253 this is from 20+ years ago.itvqas only posted on here this years,but this show was actually Mde years ago.

[@algireaux1364]

Actually, meningococcal disease.

[@soonmeekim930]

8 patients in a month, COVID-19 : hold my slide

[@kimlarso]

🦋

[@GrandmaAnna]

My Niece had this, horrible disease! It comes on very fast, morning she had a cold by night she was in ICU.

[@FrehleyFan3988]

I never knew that meningitis could do this much damage

[@Godgirl1966]

Thank God for good parents

[@egthatyoutubes8094]

This isnt just Plague inc anymore This is Plague Inc Multiplayer... In all seriousness what the actual heck is happening and is this occurring right now now or was it in 1999 and it already stopped

[@gthktty666]

I wondered if this disease was related to Meningococcal Disease that was having a surge around 2000 in Australia, and sure enough, this strain of bacteria was Neisseria meningitidis bacterium, the strain that causes Meningococcal. I remember being vaccinated, so painful, and being told about not sharing drinks, foods or anything we put our mouths on.

[@zenzenkimaranai]

I just randomly guessed menegitis before I clicked this video. I’ve been recently scared of diseases/virus/bacteria that could enter the blood stream

[@cathythoman]

the moment I heard at the beginning not feeling well and stiff neck I said meningitis.

[@melatoninqueen6914]

My uncle was killed by Spinal meningitis when he was 15. My dad was only 3 years old so I never knew my uncle. He died in 1962 when a vaccine for meningitis wasn’t really available. I got my meningitis vaccine and I constantly wonder if he had been able to be vaccinated if he’d have lived.

[@errorsansthedestroyerofaus188]

This is going to come back thanks to all the anti vaxxors which is sad

[@megsmiracles]

nargacuga the living shadow The vaccine only covers viral meningitis; not bacterial. My friend had bacterial meningitis caused by the exact bacteria as Matthew and she had the vaccine.

[@Jerseybaby19]

We are not vaccinated against a certain type of meningitis however I agree- a lot of diseases will return due to non vaccination choices in the future generations

[@errorsansthedestroyerofaus188]

Innaa Dynamitee ok karen

[@mwwilson9539]

The camera-man and editors should walk through a real ER for a few days to get an idea what PPE is used.

[@ashly1911]

Lmao ikr

[@fandomtrash7505]

I don’t think the camera men choose what people do/use in the scenes. Neither do editors. The person you are looking for is a director lol

[@Tis_I_SirJames]

Binge watching in Jan 2021. This series is so interesting! I've never heard of some of these illnesses before. Happy New Year y'all...!

[@cathythoman]

hello from 2023

[@Tis_I_SirJames]

@@cathythoman hi Cathy, how's it goin.

[@CarritaJ]

I had meningitis when I was 2. A child in the church nursery had it and the church didn't tell the other parents. Mom took me to dr and they sent me home. Then mom felt something was wrong the next morning....so she drove me to the hospital in the city....like 30 mins....by the time we got to the hospital I was unconcious.

[@SweetTikTokLife]

Thank God you’re ok!! Also, what kind of church wouldn’t tell people that a deadly contagious disease was on the loose! Honestly!

[@haleyrison68]

Meningitis is what killed my estranged husband at age 36. He suffered from poorly managed type 1 diabetes aggravated by bulimia. His refusal to get help contributed to my decision to separate. I begged his family to get him help but they dismissed me. I knew he was going to die. The decline of his health was visible. The last time I saw him he looked like a Holocaust survivor just liberated. The next thing I knew he was gone. Our daughter was 6.

[@MyNathanking]

4:25: "A deadly bacteria was killing Edmonton's young people." THERE IT IS AGAIN --- "bacteria" instead of "bacterium."

[@Silver7Bullet]

Most schools now require vaccination against bacterial meningitis to attend, which means this is far less likely now.

[@juanitarichards1074]

In NZ we had a farmer who had a similar infection and he came close to death numerous times and was in a coma. There doctors had said there was nothing more they could do for him and they would have to unplug his life support soon. His wife meantime did much research on her own and ended up in the hands of a very good naturopath who advised intravenous high dosage Vitamin C. The hospital refused to try this treatment so the wife got a court order and the treatment was begun. Within 12 hours than man began to improve and in a few days he came out of his coma. He was talking, very weak but talking. However the hospital cut back the levels of Vitamin C and the man deteriorated quickly and in days was back in a life threatening coma. They refused to increase the dosage. His wife went back to court, got new order and the hospital had to up the dosage to the maximum. The man got better, his life was saved and within weeks he was discharged. That was 10 years ago and he is still working on his farm..........if they tried this treatment alongside mega antibiotics it could have save lives from bacterial infections.

[@eternitydoor]

Or it could cause additional problems. I and multiple others I know are allergic to vitamin C in the amounts even in food let alone supplements. So high doses the way you describe would be dangerous

[@juanitarichards1074]

@@eternitydoor But it saved this mans life.......Plus many serious illnesses such as cancer begin as severe vitamin and mineral deficiencies. My friend with cancer who was supposed to have died 2 years ago is still here and still at work. His doctors are shocked. He is taking high dosage Vitamin C and turmeric capsules. He has a very good naturopath who prescribed them and is monitoring his condition. BTW, his cancer spread while he was having chemo.......

[@mazieg7072]

It's pretty rare to be allergic to vit C and obviously that man was not allergic, otherwise he wouldn't have shown improvement. So your point is moot to 99% of the population.

[@RICDirector]

Which is dandy unless youre the 1%..... also, high vit c has to be done carefully as it can combine with some oth er medications to cause kidney failure. Just because a remedy works for one doesnt mean its a panacea for all. Use caution, use successes as sparks to light further research.

[@juanitarichards1074]

@@RICDirector When there is nothing left to try and all hope of life is gone (As in the story I related. They were just going to let him die), why not try it? What have they got to lose? And I have friend and her family in that situation right now. Her brother was hit by a car 2 years ago and sustained a serious brain injury. They didn't think he was going to make it. He was in a coma in ICU for weeks.......but he survived, however with all kinds of complications. He is paralyzed from the waist down and can do very little. with his hands and arms. He was tube fed for over a year but now can eat mushy food, no solid food or he could choke to death. He frequently has to go back on a breathing tube.....he can't breathe for long on his own. But worse of all he keeps getting pneumonia which gets worse each time and they are running out of antibiotics to try.....the bouts of pneumonia are getting closer and closer together and eventually will kill him. His sister has asked them to try the Vitamin C treatment during the bouts of pneumonia but his doctors have refused. They'd rather he just died of pneumonia. Thats cruel and very very shortsighted. He is getting weaker all the time, has no quality of life and suffers severe depression. Why not try the one thing that might help him?

[@gabriellemendler551]

This is so cool; clicked on this video not knowing it would take place in the hospital and the lab where I work!

[@winnieplaysroblox]

My school said about this, but they say that about 1/8 of the kids were not here in 2000s on the week when we had to come from the break and to be safe. My friend said that it was spreading in our school, and her mother (who also was in the school back then) friend was not there b/c of her sister health condition and hers. And they passed away.. 🕊️. But I hope you people who are teens or kids to be safe 🫶

[@cindypreston7234]

I remember this. I took my daughters to a gym for vaccination.

[@veryorangecone5379]

I hate and love this episode. It shows that people have to die before anything will get done

[@amberlavallee9364]

right, and not just any people, KIDS =(

[@markmitchell450]

@@amberlavallee9364 this time yes seems kids and teenagers are more likely to catch pick up this

[@dissodatore]

just think of the public response to COVID19 restrictions, and you'll see why it takes death to convince most people of the seriousness of a disease.

[@hellobirdie0617]

I like to think of it like this… If there are 4 people in a car and one of them refuses to wear a seatbelt, that’s your choice however you are now putting all of 3 of those people who are protecting themselves from injury at risk for injury from your body flying around in the car after impact. GET VACCINATED.

[@naomivantonder5344]

In todays life people should not still be dying after contracting bacterial meningites as drs should immediately be able to diagnose it. Neck stiffness, light sensitivity and aching body and confussion is some of the first symptoms. Blue marks start appearing when the disease is allready quite far spread in the body. There is an immunization available against it if I am correct.

[@SapphirasMama]

Yes but people either don't trust the vaccine cause they are afraid of long term side effects (they are found within the days to a couple of weeks after a vaccine) or are completely anti vaxx to a certain degree.

[@chaielmaetheius7804]

The technician in 18:00 to 18:20 is dealing with meningitis and not wearing any gloves or mask. These technicians needs to be retrained on proper clothes and to always wear protection every time because if she or he becomes infected because of improper behavior, they can make it spread throughout the hospital or lab into the rest of where they live with no symptoms in the beginning.

[@tamaraj4200]

Its not the actual video but it is actors just portraying the story.

[@CanYouRememberWhen]

Yes, even though these are actors they should try to be more realistic. You'd definitely want gloves for those chemicals the slides are being dipped into. Masks weren't always worn in labs or gross rooms back then. This actually happened 20 years ago, but by then labs and medical personnel were practicing universal precautions. Before that you wouldn't believe what was commonplace.

[@fandomtrash7505]

It literally says in the video this is a recreation.

[@marywagner9927]

And you do not need masks and gloves 100% of the time in a lab. I spent 35 years in labs and rarely wore gloves in micro. Before 1991 we never wore gloves! The chance of being infected in most situations is virtually nonexistent. It was the emergence of AIDS that forced the wearing of gloves. But I NEVER, in 35 years, got any blood on myself by drawing someone else’s blood.

[@rosegaming1173]

Those blood culture tubes are still used today in 2023 in my hospital. It's wild to see how both hoe much the medical field has changed but also how little it has in other ways.

[@serenawoolard989]

Love this show

[@briarwyatt8345]

Me2

[@AdmireFUT]

Me3

[@DeadlyWolfie_997]

Me4

[@amberkat8147]

I really hate it when doctors just assume an illness or complaint is the most common, most harmless cause and don't look further and people die as a result. If a stiff neck is part of the complaint, the most basic check for meningitis is relatively quick. Just have them try to put their chin to their chest. Although I seem recall that there might be more to it then that, something like standing on the balls of the feet and tilting the head back then dropping down to be flat-footed and trying to touch your chin to you chest, but I'm not a doctor. I only remember that from a story of a marine who had to do that test when he was sick. That poor kid's parents are never going to get over the "what ifs." They'll never get over losing their son. How could they? How can anyone get over something like that?

[@MoniqueBoulangerMSG]

That's how it is now. I hate it. Back in the 90's Doctors actually were *able* to figure out what's wrong with you. Now medical personnel are overworked, underpaid and they just don't have the energy or time to bother with "Zebras" Not to mention the constant abuse doctors have been getting lately because of COVID stuff. Professionalism only goes so far in the face of constant abuse, and eventually they quit.

[@lindavanocker1841]

Dawns mother seems more interested in telling how she feels and what she has been through than what her poor daughter went through. Shes all i, i ,i .

[@nancyhanscom1374]

This is 3 years ago people. Look up the date before going forward to any reason. This is happening alot lately. It confuses alot of people!!! 😢

[@JamesStreet-tp1vb]

The one thing that has to be the hardest thing a doctor will ever do, even harder than med school, is telling parents that their child is dead. I dont know how they do it.

[@nickisnyder3450]

They literally would not have gone ahead with that vaccination campaign if the mother of the 16 year old girl had not called the press conference. God bless her for all the people she saved

[@elaine8417]

Screaming at my phone that it's meningitis as soon as spots were mentioned

[@labtechsuperstar]

I just found it interesting to see the mass vaccination clinics where you have all these people in close quarters. For my job, I opted to get the meningococcal vaccine. It didn't hurt going in, but after, my body was sore and my legs felt like they were 200lbs each.

[@shellybliss1549]

I remember we had an outbreak of meningitis. They wanted teens to get a meningitis shot especially those sharing a doorm rom

[@ilonakathyrowbottom3218]

I live just north of Edmonton Alberta in a small community... I heard about this... horrible

[@hazeycorpse8481]

Ive had viral meningitis. It is not fun. First started out with bite on my body that caused me really bad headaches then my neck got sore and stiff then light hurt my eyes. My ex to me to the ER and then took me to the back right away and did a spinal tap on me and admitted me. Doctor told me it was viral meningitis caused by bed bug bits. After that i never stayed at my ex place and broke up with him

[@hazeycorpse8481]

@@Annualbell who knows. I stopped talking to him

[@DebraOdonnell-zb3vx]

In 1994 my daughter when 3weeks old caught viral menegitis she survived only because of a good doctor picking up the signs

[@debravela9119]

This program is well informative.

[@jellyfish7893]

The narrator said 10 people were infected, then 49, then 10. So what is the right number ?

[@boardwalkbw7130]

4 different docs could not even diagnose my shingles even after I showed them the tell tell blisters...

[@elainelessack]

Needle lumbar puncture, also termed spinal tap, was first introduced in 1890 by German scientist Heinrich Quincke to diagnose meningitis.

[@caitlinrodriguez964]

I got the meningitis shot too and I almost died from in December 2019 spent 3 and a half days in the hospital fighting its no joke I was working in a hospital kitchen and got fried and I couldn't eat drink or move off the sofa my mom had to help me up and my pee was brown how bad I was thank God I am here today I still get the same headaches

[@caitlinrodriguez964]

I had both viral meningitis and bacterial and I beat if I waited one more day I would have died God spoke to me and I herd a voice in my head go to the hospital go now so I am glad I did

[@PrincessHVHHDSSS]

When a person has "a temperature and the shivers", rug them up and keep them warm. Keep the inner core warm. Ask your child... do you feel too cold or too hot? Even if they are sweating, your child might say, "I feel cold", keep them as warm as possible. Bed socks, warm pyjamas, warm blankets, warm bath once a day. Some viruses, the inner core is on fire, so your child will say..." I feel too hot". So, light cotton bed sheet, lighter pyjamas. Either one, bed rest, sleep, drink lots of fluids and paracelamol to relieve pain. Sleep, water, the right temperature environment and paracetamol ( pain relieve or nausea medication), are the 4 vital elements, that will often save life. I am not a Doctor, but these basics have saved my life as a child, and as an adult, on many occasions. Go strsight to the hospital if you're unable to care for your child, if they can't drink fluids by themselves, or have colours on their skin. Love Holly

[@xXxSapphir3xXx]

This is horrible advice! You don't hold heat in with a high fever and while cooling them off they will feel cold. Doing this could kill that person, DO NOT HOLD IN HEAT WITH A HIGH FEVER EVER.

[@PrincessHVHHDSSS]

@@xXxSapphir3xXx It just depends, some people drop their child in a cold bath, during a fever, but this may cause hypothermia, and acceleration in the dececation of their body, and lead to death. When I have a fever, I feel freezing cold, even though I am sweating. I am rugged up head to toe, under blanket and doona. I have hypoglycemia, so I often feel cold, even when I have a fever. Just saying, listen to your child, if they can talk. Sometimes you need to cool them down a little, sometimes you need to keep them snug and warm..."not a raging inferno", but, ...just listen to "your body" or "your child", as every disease has it's own course to run, and there can be other underlying health issues. Just putting this out there. This advice could help someone. Obviously see your Doctor. Children are so vulnerable. Just sharing my own observations, to help. I often don't go to hospital, because they keep the wards cool, to stop bacteria from surviving, but they only provide light sheet & 1 cotton blanket. So I stay at home, during acute health crisis situations... for me. God bless. Yours faithfully Holly

[@xXxSapphir3xXx]

@@PrincessHVHHDSSS no it won't cause hyperthermia, it'll be very uncomfortable, but in the ER we pack people with ice on their arm pits, groin and behind their neck in addition cold IV fluids. The ER only provides a light sheet because like I said before, holding in heat can be life threatening. Blood sugars and shaking have nothing to do with literally cooking your body and brain cells, and that should be resolved by eating or administering insulin, not wrapping up. I really hope you'll do some research and realize you maybe doing more harm than good. God bless and be safe!

[@hummingbird2254]

When my son had scarlet fever when he was 2, the doctor said to give him cool baths. It worked to bring his fever down.

[@xXxSapphir3xXx]

@@Annualbell a non life threatening fever can become life threatening if you hold in heat. It could also lead to brain damage.

[@gexrge-uk]

46:00 stay strong Alex 💙 your awesome no matter what

[@DemonSister6]

There was a monsters inside me episode that was based off matthews condition When a woman who had the exact same infection had her arms and legs amputated because of the rapid spread

[@tigerz8174]

This show seems more like a reality show!!!

[@MandyAltamirano]

Dont go to the doctor or an urgent care. Go directly to the hospital ER.

[@jennyrose2200]

the lab workers don't wear gloves or masks or eye protection?

[@shanerr7252]

I remember this making waves in Australia when i was a kid this outbreak scared everyone

[@gabby20]

yes I'm in Aussie too , I remember it was scary

[@meganlovesdisneyandcrafts4780]

No one did cpr….also not everyone wore protective clothing consistently . Interesting and informative but not realistic..

[@maryankersen8589]

I took care of two patients with this and both died within hours.

[@cochiefemeralds3616]

In 2012, I had to get the meningitis vaccine 💉 to go to college

[@davebretz8602]

I don't recall hearing about this that i can recall? I lived in northern alberta in 99 & don't recall any push to vacinate back then?

[@marianagoulartdossantos9134]

My heart aches for these famili es M

[@DeadlyWolfie_997]

I was vaccinated for meningitis when i was 6 years old

[@yeetghostrat]

show affection, what a kind way to put it

[@PirateNikki]

1:24 in and I'm guessing meningitis

[@PirateNikki]

4:00 booom! There is it.

[@PirateNikki]

Had a friend die of this freshman year of high school. After that the symptoms were drilled into all our heads to make sure no one else caught it at school. She would have probably been okay but the first doctor to see her diagnosed as strep and gave her antibiotics that complicated things. That Dr was obviously not thinking most deadly possibilities first and it cost her her life 😔

[@liztrainer895]

I wonder if the one doctor misdiagnosed the flu for meningitis with that16 year old girl .