Does This Theory FIX My FNAF Timeline?! | I Solved MatPat's Sister Location Problem (ID's Fantasy)

[@IDsFantasy]

Alright, I've finished the video, and I disagree with the disagreeing on my Candy Cadet ideas (guess I'll be bumping that one up on the priority list) and would like to clarify that I do think MoltenMCI would still be the original MCI kids from 1985, just picked up after FNAF 3, though if soul splitting is at play they could have ended up in there at any point leaving SL open in the timeline. Can't wait to see the rest of the reactions! Thank you so much :D

[@alalalala57]

Needs to be pinned!

[@NEWDOG-kf3rk]

Here before pin

[@glitchking2801]

Get this to top comment

[@nicholite697]

Here before pin.

[@abdullahemek2488]

omg thats the youtuber from the video that matpat reacted to!

[@MrSirWivd]

i love how mat was only 14 seconds into the video and just got completely annihilated just being called out. his reaction was legit hilarious.

[@LewsTherinTelescope]

That was amazing, and I appreciate that Matt's willing to roll with the punches there lol.

[@valor1omega]

​​@@LewsTherinTelescopeIn the past he wasn't so "chill" about getting called out. Gamer from Mars was extremely respectful and did a documentarish style of video on Game Theory and Matt acted like he was verbally assaulted six ways from Sunday. Or anyone with any legitimate criticism of him he treated like a personal attack. So it's nice to see him able to handle legitimate criticism these days.

[@LewsTherinTelescope]

@@valor1omega Glad to see he's grown a lot, then

[@punprincess3214]

I didn't even care to watch the rest of the video, I just kept watching that part

[@geostorm8192]

I guess you could say he was _caught in a landslide_

[@XIN3OHd]

That intro burn was fantastic

[@CJ5C]

meat snake

[@frostbitetheannunakiiceind6574]

Bro got destroyed XD

[@ToastComix]

The shade 😭🙏

[@hulorend7405]

@DontReadMyProfilePhoto_3 Get out of my head

[@youraveragetryhard2928]

Rip mattpat

[@UndeadScience]

The idea that Michael was helping collect remnant.. it actually makes a sick sort of sense. Imagine being the cause of your little brother’s death. your father is sent spiraling, your mother leaves, and you’re left to deal with this guilt alone. And then your father tells you “there’s a way you can make it all better. Just do what I say. Help me put him back together.”

[@Cece._gvcha]

I just cannot believe that no matter what I want I just can’t imagine Micheal helping his dad I can’t imagine him aiding the bad guy 😭😭

[@Beefoulotus-OFFICALL]

​​​​@@Cece._gvchamicheal is crying child that means that william needed to put Remnant where did he get it from a kid if what i said is true that means that cc is doing what his father told him to do 4 Or he didn't listen and put the evil back and if henry Burned fnaf 6 pizzeria that means he probably knew the fnaf 3 restaurant burnt also Henry burnt fnaf 6 pizzeria to get the last souls also use candy cadets storys for lore you see that candy cadet is telling a rettilling of ennard aminatronics become one and also Funtime freddy is molten freddy or ennard if micheal did evil he wouldn't have came to freddy fazbears matpat see this

[@Cece._gvcha]

@@Beefoulotus-OFFICALL Michael is not cc.. that’s quite the old theory too 😭

[@Beefoulotus-OFFICALL]

​@@Cece._gvchadont know what i was thinking

[@Beefoulotus-OFFICALL]

​@@Cece._gvchaalso if micheal is ccs brother that means if he burnt down fnaf 3 Henry would somehow see so he did the same thing for the last souls and dave looking at a mall is like fnaf sb because its a mall

[@CosmicNebula444]

It's hilarious that every time Mat finds a new fnaf theorist, he immediately gets them to join the team All will be assimilated Soon, it will be just Matpat

[@nihili4196]

Blobpat confirmed?

[@TheWhanos]

Fuhnaff isn't part of the team

[@Silvia_Arienti]

​@@TheWhanos*_yet_*

[@TheWhanos]

@Silvia Arienti i don't think he's going to join team theorist

[@squardzilla8043]

Matpat is just playing theorist Monopoly

[@quincykoala3309]

I love when he works with the community like this showing how he cares about including all members of the fanbase.

[@CJ5C]

meat snake

[@youtuberfanyoutuberfan4661]

@Don't Read My Profile Photo ok

[@vincentussy]

​@Don't Read My Profile Photo shut up.

[@Michael-oj5iu]

Yay😊

[@cravercrash5074]

yeah and people on twitter keep asking him to quit fnaf theories but you get nice stuff like this lol

[@TartarusHimself]

matpat not being invited to events related to things he plays a big part in is a hilarious running gag but i hope he gets to do the fun relevant stuff soon

[@phayes84]

It’s funny. But, I also feel bad for MatPat. He deserves to be invited to these things. He takes it way more gracefully then I would.

[@garlicxlr]

I mean... You don't invite the Harlem Globetrotters to a friendly game of basket.

[@AllisterVinris]

Well as the one holding the answers, you really don't want the one whose whole job is to ask questions in the same room as you.

[@jonathan97107]

Rumored he’s in the fnaf movie 🍿

[@0ttomatic]

I think it's really telling that during the interview with Dawko, when asked about which ending was canon for FNAF 3, Scott said that the answer was "very interesting" and "complex" but ultimately decided not to say which was canon. Maybe we all have put too much faith in the Good Ending of FNAF 3 being canon when the opposite could actually be true?

[@spiritwolf448]

Yeah, I'm surprised no one talks about that more

[@chriiiiis]

In my heart, it's the cannon ending

[@milesfernando]

I feel like it's neither. The endings show all 5 of the souls are either there or not. From what's been going on, I think that the main four have moved on, but Golden Freddy would still be "on."

[@Envy_May]

maybe it splits the timeline like zelda

[@cluver99]

YEEEES. Thats it! I'm always talking about thaaat. The Bad Ending is the canon for that game at this point. Obviously we can pick up things from the Good Ending minigames like the Golden Freddy indentity as the crying child (or cassidy or whatever you want to believe) but the real canon ening is the one where the spirits remaing in their suits

[@IDsFantasy]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (Haven't finished the video, mostly reacting just to making it into a GTLive XD)

[@titan7789]

Congrats.

[@Pablo_50]

Great vids

[@marshmallofluff]

@@slyceth bro what..??

[@AmyMcdonaldd]

@@slyceth Huh?!??

[@celestesherlyn]

@@slyceth 🤏🏻

[@zariasafonova7220]

First glance: Yes, MatPat did stretch a 16 minute video into an hour and 8 minutes After watching: I can't believe I underestimated MatPat

[@paulreu7118]

It seems you have overlooked that he only used 6 minutes of these 16 and stretched these into an hour. Truly an amzing feat on matpats part

[@zariasafonova7220]

@@paulreu7118 Truly next level. I look forward to MatPat breaking his current video:theorizing record

[@zsation240]

Matpat could make a 12hour video over a single picture.

[@AceFaz]

​@@zariasafonova7220 NEWWW RECORD!!! Theory : Video 9 : 1

[@flyingfairything]

​@@paulreu7118 he straight up turned each minute into almost 10

[@BloodyJoker234]

I think her candy cadet theory is actually so intelligent and makes so much sense and I feel like people are gonna look back and see how I’m point she was it shows that Charlie failed to save them, Michael is trying to piece it together and Henry is trying to just put it all in 1 coffin and get rid of everything

[@Alotaro-the-Real]

Honestly this. I'm not very deeply intune with the FnaF theories and stuff, i basically only watch the Fnaf theory stuff that comes out on this channel and has only started doing so since around when he first reacted to FuhNaffs theories, so this is my first time being exposed to the Candy Cadet stories. My first thought, though driven by only surface level knowledge, was to associate the three in the way she did. That section here kinda made me want to tell Mat to listen to his own prior statement on Occam's razor. Cause hes right in that the villain in the stories seem to be doing the same thing, killing or destroying innocence, but the three protagonists, the Woman, the Boy, and the Man are all doing different things. The Woman is trying to save them all but she can't(instantly makes me think of the "you can't" sequence), the Boy passively allows their suffering but in regret "fixes" them and brings them back together again(don't actually remember all the games but this has me thinking of them being gathered for the one where the fire happens burning them all), and the final one with the Man who only had one coffin to put them all to rest in(the burning pizzeria itself could very well be this coffin, the place where he put them all to rest). To sum up the three protagonist all seem to be doing different things, with seemingly different motivations thus making it the most simple solution(Occam's Razor) that they are all different characters.

[@BloodyJoker234]

@@Alotaro-the-Real like you said it sucks Mattpatt isn’t seeing it because it’s very obvious once you see it this way that’s why he is so confused trying to decipher it cause he is stuck in the path of thought. What you said is right in the money and I agree and it adds so much to the lore to see which characters are a focus

[@Alotaro-the-Real]

@@BloodyJoker234 I genuinely think this is something Mat can be said to struggle with in general, in that at this point he already has a predefined theory that encompases just about the entireity of the Fnaf Series. So if someone brings up something that doesn't agree with it, even something like this with the Cadet Stories, his first instinct is to argue and dismiss, not because he is being malicious in any way but because his universal theory has, because he has worked with it so much, become his baseline for what "makes sense" in the Fnaf series. So even this with the Cadet stories don't "make sense" or are not "simple" cause he's subconsciously operating with a different baseline. Everytime he is met with a different theory he essentially has to go through a process of reseting his baseline before he can handle it constructively. At least that's my impression from this video and the ones where he reacted to Fuhnaffs theories.

[@BloodyJoker234]

@@Alotaro-the-Real absolutely I’d say that he should be like that if you don’t have confidence in your theory then it’s probably not a good one I get it completely and I know once he figures it out he will come around reluctantly because I know how much work goes into redoing everything after you figure out 1 thing is different. I wasn’t attacking him just saying that this new theorist on the scene came in with some heat

[@IDsFantasy]

Exactly!

[@royliber3824]

The more ID's Fantsay explains the Candy Cadet stories, the more I think each of the stories actually do represent different parts from the timeline and in each occasion there was a different entity tampering with the 5 dead children. Like mentioned in the comments, even the story about the woman makes sense if she is represented as the Puppet. I would love to see a live debate between ID's Fantasy and Game Theories at one point where they expand completely on the FNaF timeline and events till they manage to cover any plot-hole there might be.

[@Archfiend_Sushi7746]

Thank you for that, an interesting contribution and food for thought for me.

[@darkwubshd4961]

We can tell Matt goes to therapy by how well he handles confrontation

[@Existingisannoying]

💀

[@turtorilla]

lmao

[@just_an_internet_explorer8038]

💀

[@sky0kast0]

Roasted Michigan life

[@aa_batterybloomin1305]

Working in live theater and an on-the-road actor certainly helps. Plus being a KZbin og lol

[@adammurphy5699]

When Afton disassembles the animatronics, the souls of the children could stay in the building, but the agony of their death stays with the metal collected. Seems likes the most logical reasoning based on how this franchise operates now.

[@Just_Jam94]

I think that looking at "how this franchise operates" isn't the best approach. This franchise operates in chaos. Always were and probably always will be, becouse it's how it keeps people hooked. When answer seems to be just around the corner, but you can never reach it (b/c FNaF doesn't have right answer) you will chase it as long as you have motivation - which is usually fueled by fan content. In the end it's just bunch of random bullshit, which people try to make sens of. But it's fun, so I'm happy to roll with it :)

[@ArachnidSyther]

I completely Subscribe to this and believe it may have been eluded to at some point in the books (But I forget where).

[@sanicinapanic4264]

@Nightsun642 Well yeah it the fun times were made to capture kids they (Elizbeth dies) then they are injected with remnant except for baby (But that's just a theory a comment theory)

[@johnnyreed8144]

I was just about to say this, thanks lol

[@curse5697]

ikr? even matpat made a theory saying that you could extract the remnant of the metal and the "anger" or something like that, which is their agony and anger

[@AryaTheTerrorTabby]

Please invite her to the talk back!!! She has some wonderful theories, plus it would be nice to see more ladies on the screen. Ps. RyeToast has some great points too for another theorist to invite 😊

[@blubber9047]

I love ryetoast so much. A lot of what he says builds off of MatPat and it’s great

[@QuincyChen]

Those two and FuhNaff would be great!

[@ajkcool]

I think Matt doesn't react to/watch RyeToast is because Toast either: A. Builds off of what Matt already said B. Comes up with so many small theories, there's too much to react to

[@ziridestaudios]

YES

[@AstralShot]

Yeah I vouch for her to be invited

[@elijahloiacono]

I can NOT say how many years it's been since a 1+hours video was in the top 50 on trending. Congrats Mat, that's quite the accomplishment!

[@robotic-race]

This could've very easily been under an hour lol

[@Mardikuz]

@@robotic-race it wouldn't be gtnotlive so

[@Gallarday]

​@@robotic-race and? Xd

[@aldii8614]

my lizard brain didn't get distracted for an entire HOUR!

[@imaboisir7227]

Less than a year bro

[@aniqueevans1547]

It makes me feel so validated that even Matpat with his encyclopedic knowledge of FNAF still had to pause and process what she's saying because she's packs in so much info so quickly into her sentences. I had to watch her video at 0.75 speed just so I could absorb the information and not get lost.

[@Just_Jam94]

I know what you mean, I had to slow down aswell, but in my case that was slowing to 1.0, when my YT standard speed is 1.25 (1.5 for some channels). And I don't even care that much :D

[@artmayel9627]

I love that when Ash is not there everything goes wrong 😂

[@JustAHuman101]

With the chaos of Ash comes the peace of the land.

[@PerovNigma]

​​@@JustAHuman101 Ash pulls in the chaos like a conductor, and without them, it spreads to all corners.

[@JustAHuman101]

@@PerovNigma No. Ash IS the chaos.

[@beck3319]

Huge props to MatPat to giving such a small creator the spotlight! I found Id's Fantasy the last few weeks waiting for him to finish his timeline, she's such a good channel!

[@TravisPlushProductions]

Something I’ve always felt is that Micheals speech at the end of sister location feels much more sinister than everyone took it. “I put her back together, just like you asked me to” “BUT something is wrong with me” It almost feels like Mike was in on getting scooped, like he had planned to die in order to put his sister back together and didn’t expect to live. But enraged that he’s essentially just a walking corpse now wants revenge on his father for not telling him the scooper would keep him alive (the blueprints in Fnaf 6 show it deliberately injects remnant into what it scoops) It’s a bit loose, but the idea that the third candy cadet story could be implying something else, and that line in the ultimate guide saying Micheal could’ve been assisting William certainly doesn’t hurt the theory.

[@TheMinecraftHype]

Ignoring all evidence and whatnot, and speaking from purely a narrative level: I agree. If FEELS right for Michael to be helping his father. A broken child who is partly reponsible for breaking his family... well, I'd imagine him clinging to his father (even if distantly). Aiding him. Then, *eventually* turning sides due to guilt, perhaps (or being in similar shoes as the dead-children after his the scooping accident). It's just far more compelling than 'Michael knew nothing, then found out and tried to fix things'. Being complicit is the way: agency makes more better stories - bystanders not so much.

[@GendoRokabundi]

@@TheMinecraftHype also, the Afton family poster has him as a ventriloquist dummy of his father. It points both to him looking just like his father (mentioned a lot on sister location, by mike himself and the Immortal and the Restless) but also being used by him. It’s possible he was only partially aware of what his father was doing. We know that: (a) Micheal was a security guard (b) Micheal looks like his father (c) William gained access to those buildings as a security guard What if … William was never hired as a security guard? Micheal got the job, and because he looks like his son, William used his son’s uniform and credentials to access the building to do what he needed to do. Therefore Mike is fired for William tampering with the animatronics. It’s also possible that Mike gets the jobs to clean up after his dad. He might believe he’s trying to clear his father’s good name, or get back at the company that tried to push his father out, or maybe even that his father has explained there is someway to ‘fix’ his brother that requires stealing animatronic parts. There’s many ways for William to use Micheal without Mike knowing his father is a serial killer.

[@TheMinecraftHype]

@@GendoRokabundi Interesting idea! I do wonder if Michael could feasibly pass off as William though... even if they look alike, the age gap would surely be notable? Granted, within the confines of the story, perhaps there can be some suspension of disbelief here. Perhaps their physical resemblance is merely for symbolism's sake. Michael would be HEIR to the company, after all - he would have to take up his father's role - replace his father: he would be William 2.0 in not only appearance, but position. Perhaps Michael was groomed for this role, which would make it hard for Michael to be totally ignorant of everything... he need not know his father is a serial killer, but I'd imagine he'd be aware of some... dubious... shenanigans going on. Regardless, I like your ideas surrounding Michael trying to 'clean up' after his father.

[@jordandrinkwater1345]

@@TheMinecraftHype It's like Zuko from The Last Airbender.

[@fiusionmaster3241]

Indeed

[@kevinalston5441]

I do think the Candy Cadet stories being different people (Charlie, Michael, and Henry) makes sense. If you look at as each story as their reaction to the Missing Children Incident. Charlie in trying to save all of them fails to save any of them. Michael, who basically doesn’t function because of the Crying Child Incident, regrets not stopping his father and tries fixing it. When Henry finds out he as to put them to rest the only way he knows how.

[@fishbowl5308]

See the issue I have with both sides is that neither work perfectly. If you look at them separately why are each one putting the five together. If you look at them like mat he's right there is an extra character who doesn't make sense. I think looking at the key story as a separate one is honestly the only one that makes sense as the keys could represent quite a lot

[@IONATVS]

@@fishbowl5308 narrative parallelism? either because it’s 3 different characters reacting to the same event (the 5 kids being murdered) in different ways, or because they’re narrative foils of each other. IDK if the theory is correct, but i can see 3 stories sounding similar but not all being allegories for the exact same thing, but rather 3 different stories that all tie into a central shared plot point (ie the MCI).

[@Rabid_Mushroom]

I wonder if the fact that there are specifically three stories is at all relevant. If all the stories where the same, wouldn't it make more sense if there where five stories?

[@fishbowl5308]

@@IONATVS even then why are two reactions stitching the dead together. I can see that with the keys. Say the keys represent each life Charlie trying to save all of them failed to save any. It's the other 2 I can't see. Why would Henry or Mike be stitching the bodies together what would that even mean if not fusing the kids together. The more I think on it the more my head hurts I can only imagine the sheer pain anyone trying to theorize about this franchise goes through

[@r.achmadrivaldi8598]

@@fishbowl5308 I agree with you. I can see Charlie trying to safe these kids and freed them. But for both Micheal and Henry, idk.

[@DessArtem]

I think one of the strongest takeaways from the Candy Cadet stories is the running theme of Futility. This especially ties the key story to the others, in that no matter what each person does to put things back together, they can't bring about the happy outcome they want. I wonder if Michael had helped William in the past and is trying to fix his own mistakes as well as his father's. (That would be an interesting story in general, a killer trying to bring their victims back to life.)

[@IkerUnzu]

I'm so happy you reacted to her theory!! Her theories are so good! She deserves it!!

[@KimMinerLitton]

Me: Thinking I know FNAF lore really well Also me listening to ID and MatPat deeply critique each others theories using several different examples throughout the franchise: I'm just happy to be here!

[@al_insan]

Yeah, at this point I'm just lost. Still, we've deep down in the lore, there's no going back now 😅

[@deretop7119]

What I believe the candy cadet stories are about is 3 seperate stories of essentially the same problem being solved by different people. The women with the keys is the puppet since she tries to help the children who Afton killed, but in doing so the spirits can't move on so she ends up helping none of them. The story of the young boy is about Michael who saw what his father had done and ignored only to end up helping them later. The story of the old man is Henry who tries to put all the animatronics in one "coffin". I believe that that the snake burgaler and fire all represent Afton but the stories are the different peoples solutions to those problems.

[@kamryndavis1668]

This!!!!!

[@toto1539]

This is really strong

[@DragonGamer64]

This logically makes the most sense, but the snake being killed is what tripped me up. Could be a reference to burning Springtrap in FNaF 3. However, I challenge that Mike and Henry could arguably swap stories.

[@zonda2220]

While Michael and Henry makes some amount of sense, the puppet part doesn't really. "The puppet had the chance to save but 1 kid & Save herself. Instead, she tried to save all of them, and failed, and chose to die with them." It just doesn't really add up given that it would mean that Charlie either died because she tried to save the original 5 kids, and then William killed her as revenge, or else then after her posessing the puppet, had some way to either save 1 kid either physically or spiritually, and then pass on, but chose to stay behind with them as ghosts which just seems like a bit of an odd rule on "bringing kids happyness". (Though maybe you could try to link it to the happiest day minigame and say that fails to bring the 5 of them to peace)

[@AlysidaMagica]

@@DragonGamer64 I don’t think the snake and fire actually represent William at all. The fire is used by the woman, aka Charlie aka the puppet, to try and fail to save the children. If the keys represent the lives of the five kids, the fire represents the animatronics that the puppet put them in. Then in the snake story, the kid aka Michael cuts open the snake to remove the five kittens trapped inside. I believe this story maps to the plot of Sister Location, in which Michael enters or “cuts open” the Circus Baby Rental facility, and five animatronics, fused into one (Ennard) cram into one shoebox (Michael’s scooped body) I don’t know if the burglar represents William either, though it’s possible. Because in that story, Henry puts five entities (Molten Freddy, Scrap Baby, Springtrap, Lefty, and Michael) into one coffin (the building). Spring trap, aka William, is one of the five orphans in this story. Then again, if Mike can pull double duty as a kid and a shoebox in the snake story, William can pull double duty as an orphan and a burglar in this one. Getting himself Springtrapped *was* his own fault, after all

[@bananatassium7009]

I find the Candy Cadet section very interesting to think about, because the inclusion of Michael as a good-intentioned player with a negative outcome (thanks to a malicious third party) in more scenarios than we knew really resonates story-wise. Mike feels like he was introduced as a character that distinctly does villainous actions from the FNAF 4 minigames, and there is a weird black box maturation from that to protagonist, so it makes me wonder if William was almost puppeteering bad things to happen around him. Thematically, I can imagine Mike experiencing a very negative early life where tragedy befalls everyone that surrounds him and a lot of it feeling like his fault, but then he gradually realizes that William was the reason behind a lot of those events occurring. Would really build extra emphasis on his hatred for William that led to the *"I'm going to come find you."* voiceover (honestly one of my favorite parts of the series), I feel like as the main protagonist of the entire series he should have more of a personalized motivation than just "uh oh i found out about the bad stuff thats been happening."

[@aidandowns2570]

With the Candy Cadet story, the shared coffin in the man’s story could be referring to how Henry burnt down the Fnaf 6 location, making it a common burial ground for all the spirits

[@cryofpaine]

Sister Location has the hardest time fitting in the timeline because it is explicitly tied to Afton's motives, and we don't know Afton's motives. That is the key piece of information that we need to solidify the timeline. Was it the death of his son? The death of his daughter? Something else we don't even know about? Is he just a sociopath from the start? The answer to that would change where certain events come in the timeline, most notably Sister Location.

[@takezokimura2571]

Is Ms. Afton dead or alive? Ballora seems to be inspired by Willian's wife due to her dialogue. So what if Afton was already experimenting with robots trying to bring his wife back to life?

[@literallylondonn]

@@takezokimura2571 not sure but i think its just to represent her after she left him

[@smilesperson]

53:20 She has a point. To summarize, Charlie has the key with them all to set them free, Henery is the good man in the context of Pizza sim to put them to rest after trusting William but not being careful, and Mike is the one who watched, had regret, trying to fix the mess himself too, I be it in a similar way to Henery. However if it were to be one person then I bet it be Henery deeming Pizza sim as a game with his focus and how each story really summarizes him the best. He let these things happen by not being carefu, having regret, and now he brings the things together to try and get them in one place to finally put them to rest.

[@ToshinoriV2]

The part where ID was comparing the three characters in the candy cadet stories to Charlie, Michael, and Henry makes sense to me. Because what all three of those characters have in common is that they are *AGAINST* William Afton by trying to stop him and clean up his mess.

[@silverashley7337]

I think part of the charm of GTLive is the uncut, uncensored-Ness of it. It's like we just sit down with Matt to chill and participate in the days video lol

[@CrystalFier]

Are you saying that Gtlive is NESS??? 😜

[@poke-talia268]

It's good for a makeshift body double

[@SlavicFox]

NESS? FROM SUPER SMASH BROS???? AAAAAEEEEEEEHHHH

[@Majjiick]

Exactly, Matt is a great host.

[@cloroxart]

Can we take a moment to appreciate the editing team for the four parts?

[@Randomthings394]

I think we could all agree that no matter if Matpat makes a mistake we all love his content

[@ImBirdBrained]

Not that it's a big or important thing, but I love how you guys take and work with the constructive criticism you guys get, as well as the transparency of your video creation. Very mature, and organized, and it makes for a far better community imo. P.S. laughing about getting called out and immediately responding, chefs kiss.

[@reset2000]

I've been thinking it for a long time now, but I'm pretty sure it's needed now: Scott should come out and clarify some of the lore for earlier FNAF (1-6). If he, along with Steel Wool, plan to move the franchise along basing it on the lore of previous games, he should just go and tell us what he planned earlier in the timeline. As MatPat said multiple times, we don't have the baseline. Solving later games would still prove difficult I presume, but it certainly would be nice to have a strong, unshakeable baseline to refer to, with no confusion involved and no need to rewrite the WHOLE timeline again. One thing is, I don't know ho feasible it is from licensing/economic standpoint now that other parties are involved and if it would make Scott just lose money if the people are unhappy about the conclusion and decide to abandon the series. After so many years, I think we theorised enough about FNAF to deserve at least some answers. Moreso, if there were any rewrites (and they certainly were), it would be very interesting to hear about it from the developer's standpoint.

[@thefallen2220]

Crazy how Matpat stills talks about the MCI 💀

[@noonyx33]

I def agree, but I think hes worry about the backlash just like with dream theory

[@rllywishididntmakethisaccount]

dude lore and everything aside, matpat is such a smart person, like he packs so much knowledge about everything in his brain, and I can’t even pass freshman bio. past that, dude is jus literally a role model. Like he’s smart, he try’s to understand what others are saying, he knows what hes talking abt, hes kind, like hes just a light shining on others and it’s weird yet just… “wow” yk?

[@dcross0616]

I think each of the Candy Cadet stories can represent a different character. The old man who adopts the children and stitches their bodies together, only to be greeted by a knock at the door is Michael, who inadvertently ties all the Funtime Animatronics together to make Ennard, with the knock at the door representing his scooping (a knock at heaven’s door, if you will). The young woman melting the keys is Charlie. Her attempts to free the souls in Happiest Day are misguided, with the freed souls only being further tormented despite her best attempts to help. And finally, the young boy with the kittens is William. One by one, the thing he brought into his home (the idea of Freddy Fazbear’s) picks off his kittens (his children) one by one, until he snaps and takes his revenge, which could be killing Charlie.

[@KeeganPlays]

Small problem: In the Kitten story (at least by what is given in the video), only one cat dies. "The snake went into the shoebox, chose a kitten at random, and ate it. After five nights had gone by, the boy was full of regrets, and cut the snake open. He pieced the remains together and put the kitten back in the shoebox." I dunno, maybe I'm misreading it, but all I can read it as is "One cat gets eaten, five nights go by, and then the snake is killed and the cat is put back together.

[@dcross0616]

@@KeeganPlays that’s a good point, it’s a bit vague but I could see it going either way. I interpreted it as: there’s five baby kittens, five nights, and one hungry snake. I think one gets eaten every night? But that’s a great point, I hadn’t considered that. Perhaps that means Michael is the boy with the kittens - he accidentally gets one boy killed and lives with the guilt for five nights.

[@KeeganPlays]

@@dcross0616 Hmm... You're interpretation also makes quite a bit of sense... If I'm gonna be honest, I don't think I can phrase anything I think coherently into the story. Your interpretation on how what I heard would fit in sounds pretty cool, but I have no method of confirming its relevance to the story myself. My brain is tiny, and I can't fit all the crazy FNAF lore bits into it at once DX Still, everything you've said sounds pretty logical, so I guess I'll just see it as that until someone can provide some better counterargument than my weak one XD

[@AceFaz]

Actually, during Dawko's Interview with Scott, Scott actually didn't want to answer the question of which Fnaf 3 ending happened, saying it would just cause distress among the fan base. So that point is still Very much out in the open (Unless he has clarified since then). He said he thought about it for a long time, put a lot of thought into it, but doesn't want to answer the question.

[@cluver99]

YEEEES. Thats it! I'm always talking about thaaat. The Bad Ending is the canon for that game at this point. Obviously we can pick up things from the Good Ending minigames like the Golden Freddy indentity as the crying child (or cassidy or whatever you want to believe) but the real canon ening is the one where the spirits remaing in their suits

[@HoodieHorizon]

Matt is slowly acquiring fnaf theroists, soon he will have a monopoly on all fnaf theories

[@SusannahMurphine98]

He is the true Candy Cadet protagonist, melding five (or more) FNaF theorists together into one channel!

[@Yumi_Jay]

He is going to start a superhero team of Theorists.

[@SusannahMurphine98]

@@Yumi_Jay “I’m here to talk to you about the Faz-nitiative.”

[@laineywillis289]

I feel like the spirits being in two places bit at the end makes perfect sense, the metal is like a tether that holds them here and is a totem of their energy but they aren’t exclusively bound to it

[@Specsboy1999]

I am thinking the same thing due to the clarification of remnant and agony, the spirits being from the remnant get to pass on (if the good ending of fnaf 3 is the canon route) while the agony remains within the funtime animatronics which helps explain their behaviour a bit and why the blob is active at the end of SB.

[@Wwhdduendjdhhfmwosdn]

This is one of my favorite franchises to theorize about, mainly because I am 99.9% convinced that Mr. cawthon just made everything the frick up as he went.

[@soomi5667]

He technically did lol. He basically says this in Dawko's interview.

[@testerwulf3357]

Yea for most of the games it was just this but within newer ones it kinda shows he has more of an idea tbh. If he could rewrite FNAF to a set story-line I'm sure some of the restaurants (games) would be completely gone to clean up the story to something more streamline

[@purplecat6578]

@@testerwulf3357 Aka, the movie

[@wolfy.makes.art._]

The shots have been fired but of course MatPat takes it well

[@Cysubtor_8vb]

As for the claw hand paradox, it's possible that William designed those animatronics originally just to abduct kids before even learning of remnant and Elizabeth's death shifted his focus. Circus Baby's pizzeria never opened, so we technically don't know how much time passed between those animatronics being built and when they were repurposed for the rental service once Freddy closed. Specifically being creations of Afton away from Henry, they can still be old yet appear more technologically advanced.

[@nationalpv]

It did open. Only for one day. It gets closed on its opening day.

[@LumosVeil]

There’s no motive for why William would design the animatronics to abduct kids before one of his kids dies though. And if he just started killing kids for no reason, it makes him a character that has no depth..

[@Wendeta-hq2cp]

Personally I think the Funtimes were originally made without the child snatching claw (on opening of the pizzeria), but by the time William rents them out he found remnant and modified them.

[@MrFell.]

​@@Wendeta-hq2cp The pizzeria in question is Circus Baby's Pizza World? If so, then it's inaccurate because Baby kills Elizabeth on the first and only day the restaurant was open

[@moonlightblade11]

Something about listening to 2 individuals talking blatante nonesense like lighting in such a carefree and relaxed way is just so entertaining and relaxing at the same time.

[@Jade_Dragon]

The fact that matpat pulled a five minute part from a video into an hour of time is astounding Edit: I am not new to GTLive, I'm just saying this is one of the worse occurrences of him doing this

[@esaua.7455]

Oh, trust me, the fact that people sat here and watched the entire thing is thrice as astounding.

[@darknessnight0550]

Oh please the fact that he does it every single time and people still watch it is the most astounding of them all.

[@andyroughcut4521]

I feel shamed of myself now

[@gaylorvader]

WELCOME TO GTNOTLIVE MY FRIEND! (It always feels like 10 minutes tho)

[@camerongaul261]

New to the channel? Hit that like and subscribe button! (just joking with you)

[@joel9104]

I love how most this hangs on "how are the robots active if they were disassembled" when I think it's very easy to assume that the puppet could have put them back together

[@TheLegend80001]

There’s a new vhs tape from Spectre named Police Archive, and it’s 10 minutes longer than Paranormal Investigation.

[@Sneh_45]

I really love the idea of maybe hire @ID's Fantasy . Since i've been watching her for a long time now, and i enjoy her content, just like your's. Seeing her on the team, would be so cool.🥰

[@KeeganPlays]

I love that, when going over the Candy Cadet stories, the one that stands out as different to Mat is the one with the five keys getting melted together into one (the one that supports the Molten MCI theory), and not the Kitten one where only one thing dies XD

[@DrDapperTF2]

Finally, ID getting the recognition she deserves

[@seanmontgomery3997]

After seeing both opinions of you and ID's Fantasy, wouldn't it make sense that the candy cadet stories be a look at the same event from three perspectives? _One who found out early but didn't act until it was too late, then tried to fix it (kitten story) _One whom had the ability to save one, but only one, hesitated/ tried to save all but backfired (key story) _An individual that made a safe space that failed its core principal, allowing a thief in that killed all five (Burglar story) ...Now that I've summarized them in order it kinda sounds like it's talking about Henry with hindsight...

[@IDsFantasy]

What I find interesting is that in the key story, the keys are combined, not the kids, in the kitten story, only one kitten is ever mentioned dying, and in the orphan story it is actually the orphans killed and brought together, which is part of why I make a distinction between the events

[@baconthedude]

With Charlie being the woman, I agree. It's Charlie choosing to risk something, by putting the souls into the animatronics, leading them to being trapped forever. For the story it was also an all of nothing gamble leading to the kids being trapped forever.

[@WhaleMilk]

first couple minutes coming out of the witty banter: praising ID and her work in the past and talking about possibly inviting her to the talk-back first fifteen seconds of ID's video: absolutely roasts matpat to kingdom come

[@IDsFantasy]

I regret nothing XD

[@EmberTheFlareon3579]

​@@IDsFantasy In Pokemon terms, he's gonna need more than a Rawst Berry for that burn. XD

[@PoisonedPallete]

having the fandom working together is a really cool thing to see and watch progressively happen!

[@Hawker_Plays]

Hi mat, please continue putting so much effort and so much support in your videos ❤️

[@CJ5C]

meat snake

[@Hawker_Plays]

@Don't Read My Profile Photo please shut up, we all know the end is a rickroll

[@Raivon]

14 seconds in and Matpat's already ashes on the ground. Magnificent.

[@quirkyviper]

I hope they get back to this soon! I'm relieved to know that even MatPat has to pause, visualize and simplify to keep things straight bc I do that too, though, I was itching for him to get to the end of her conclusions and react to that as a whole. It's probably really hard to do that with so many contested pieces of lore though.

[@Xavi_Shado]

Please invite her to the TalkBack! She's been theorizing right here next to you for so long and doesn't get enough attention in her longform content!

[@justsomeone2832]

We demand ID fantasy and mat work together to crack this once and for all until the movie comes out

[@Stoneeeeemo]

the beginning part of ID calling you out was hella funny, but then with all the context of you wanting to call her to the team and all it got so much better

[@eclipsica6107]

I love the fact you're reacting to other fnaf theorists!! ID's Fantasy is one of my favourites! I definitely recommend you check out RyeToast's theories too, they have some really interesting ideas I'm sure you'll like, plus they've done videos on your theory too!

[@emmajk7433]

Rye bread is such a good, kind and clever FNAF theorists who has the most lovely cats as well!

[@balls_gaming]

and also ooftroop. so underated

[@Juju2927]

I'd like to see him react to RyeToast's "Games only timeline" until FNAF 6 series. I found it fascinating how the narrative is so different if you were to ignore the books as information from the lore.

[@RedN_Ready]

Congrats to ID for getting this kind of recognition!

[@tansya603]

Throughout this whole timeline... timeline... Smaller theorists have been getting bigger and bigger and i love it. PLEASE do more reactions to smaller theorists talking about your timeline, its a great collaboration and raises so many new ideas!

[@annabelle2523]

The other through line in the candy cadet stories that seem to be often overlooked, is each story is about someone who could save some of the innocents, but in trying to save all five, leads them to their deaths. The key story says the woman could save one child, the kitten story says the snake may have been satisfied if the boy fed it one kitten, and the orphan story says the man feared a burglar breaking into the house of one of the children.

[@timberwolfo5]

I am really happy you are watching this video. From what I’ve watched from ID’s Fantasy, they are really well spoken and to the point and have well made videos. They deserve the attention.

[@anu.3663]

shoutout to ID’s fantasy for being an absolutely amazing channel by the way, they absolutely deserve the promo!!! so excited for this gtlive

[@anu.3663]

like her videos are so good i hope she sees this 😭 genuinely deserves the promo love her

[@scribblecloud]

as someone who has often had to pause.. replay.. and think for like a good minute in a lot of matpats fnaf theories, seeing him go through exactly the same thing in 39:00 feels so hilariously validating 😂

[@adashofjaden6061]

I know Matpat has done a lot of analog horror for fnaf but there is one that he has not covered that I think is really good and that is the j-gems five nights at freddy's interview series it is such a good twist on the series and is really unique I feel like she needs more attention and would be really entertaining for mat

[@atomicreactor6033]

I can't wait to see where the story is gonna go. J-Gems made an amazing FNAF AU. Nightmare Bonnie is my favorite

[@teabunny2575]

I LOVE the j-gems au. I agree, he should cover that, or at least react to it.

[@maddakinz]

im so happy abt this timeline and im so happy all of mat’s hard work payed off

[@JoelTheParrot]

MatPat opening his own video up with a giant burn on him is so good

[@Reanchi]

18:09: EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!

[@isabellazavala4424]

Finally!! ID’s Fantasy is getting the recognition she deserves!!

[@pedrostormrage]

15:38 "Hey, would you like to audition to be a part of the team?" I'm starting to believe MatPat is an ever-growing entity that absorbs all (or at least the most prominent) FNAF theorists (I wonder if someone can make an analog horror series out of that 😛) 17:54 I just thought you needed a hug after that one, so here: 🤗

[@Lozt22catz]

I am currently at 23:00 and he is only 26 seconds into a 16m video

[@KenzWing2002]

Hmm, about the CC stories, it's possible ID's ideas are right. 1- Woman/Charile tries saving the kids, but can't...leaving them trapped. 2- It may say 5 kittens, but not all the kittens die...it just takes 5 nights for the kid to be so guilty that he kills the snake and puts the one kitten back together. Which is very reminiscent of Mike spending 5 nights trying to put Baby back together... 3- Henry/Man trying to give the dead kids a proper final resting place...

[@DragonFaerie]

An almost seventeen minute video, barely 6 minutes in, and it's been an hour. Matpat never ceases to amaze XD

[@Majjiick]

Ay Matt, if you're reading this, you should totally invite her and RyeToast to the talk back live stream if you can. Very well crafted theories from both of them and I'd love to see all of your thoughts combine on the lore.

[@thepigvillage1197]

Also spirits fading doesn't always mean they passed on It just means they left wherever they were Happiest Day most likely only releases the Bite Victim and the rest of them just leave the recreation of CC's memories used to help release him to go back to the Funtimes where they're currently trapped and Cassidy would have helped set up the party through FNaF World and then not actually attended the party since he wasn't needed since he's likely the main controller of Molten Freddy anyway

[@boulderfrogboulderfrog6512]

One thing i noticed is Matt's characterization of the key story as the odd one out. Assuming the on screen text is correct, only one kitten is eaten, and then that one kitten is put back together, unlike the 5 things, keys in the first story and corpses in the third that are combined in the other ones.

[@IDsFantasy]

Exactly

[@lilybirdflowergum8683]

Another difference I saw is that the old man and the woman were trying to save the children by fusing five things while the kid in the kitten story already believes he needs to sacrifice a kid and just has a hard time deciding which one TO sacrifice.

[@silentshade7975]

Do you think Scott even knows what the real FNAF timeline is at this point? 😂 Fun video. Enjoying all the theorizing everyone is doing!

[@Twistedslop62]

I legitimately don’t think he has a clue.

[@Xyrusama]

That's assuming there even is a "real" timeline... This franchise is what it is after all.

[@origon4477]

Have you seen scott's story telling over the years? He actually has no clue

[@RuteCarrapato]

Regarding the conversation about the syringe in The Last of Us, I had the same question and asked my sister-in-law, who is a nurse, and she said that for whom didn't know anything, it was a really good try and would probably work. The best thing to do was to inject the penicillin into a vein to go through the bloodstream to heal all the tissue around the infection. The syringe was probably an adult dose (standart dose), or more likely, it was a smaller dose (thus no overdose). So the series appears to be accurate 😄

[@mackenzieoconnor3619]

Also I think I remember seeing Dr. Mike do a video on the last of us medical scenes recently and the penicillin thing was mentioned

[@sullivanbradford753]

1:0:00 I think it's important to remember that Remnant is different from the souls themselves. Remnant on the Fnaf wiki is defined as "the physical manifestation of memories infused with and possessing inanimate objects". This is similar to Agony from Fazbear Frights. Agony is described as being a type energy that is biproduct of intense feelings of anger and hate. I think Agony was meant to help clarify how remnant is made and functions. Remnant is just the result of the ghosts of the dead children holding on to their grudges. Their hate and anger towards William and their situation has imbued the animatronics with energy, as such their ghosts can manifest outside their "bodies". I think it would be incorrect to say that the remnant used to create the funtime animatronics is soul juice, as mat puts it.

[@Emerald_Spartan]

it kinda feels like MatPat is training or etc the next line of theorists, so whenever he retires there will be people to carry on the theories lol, all of the theories from these 4 channels have felt well made and have been easy to understand why one would think that, and are very interesting

[@jerms99]

i’m so proud of ID 😭😭 let’s go i’m happy matt saw this

[@whydidtheballooneatthefox282]

Mat, is really an amazing guy, took the criticism and all the new points of views into play. Mat is amazing, and so is his team! Amazing people honestly. No hostility just laughs

[@notaleaf]

53:16 honestly I think maybe Charlie? Melting all the keys together, leading to her not being able to save anyone, like when the save them mini game happens and "you cant" pops up? I mean she is kind of a reoccurring power in the story. Idk this is coming from someone who has probably watched way too many fnaf lore videos and still doesn't understand it but it could maybe make sense. :)

[@kennaum]

The candy cadet stories seem to be metaphors describing real events. The key story seems the antithesis to the other two on purpose. Like it’s meant to be viewed as a reflection of afton’s actions, and we think about the things used. Sewing vs a key... a narrative attempting to unlock an entire mystery as opposed to multiple people’s necessary (and differing) perspectives sewn together, describing a timeline. And we did have three perspectives describing the stories. Afton, the children, and Mikes.

[@kennaum]

And if we think about that “innocent party” you’re looking for, it might be more than one person. It’s describing a family. Mother child father.. the Emily’s? It would make sense because the characters actions in the stories were futile. They failedz

[@shopnil4]

I'm so glad that you're watching ID's videos! I hope you can have her on a stream!

[@GamingWolfGod]

I think the Candy Cadet stories are, Woman = Henry Boy = Michael Man = Charlie Henry fully failed to save any of the children. All he could do was fuse the keys, locking everyone inside the box and let everything burn. Michael ignored what his father was doing until the guilt got to him. This lines up with the Ultimate Guide implying they worked together. Charlie "adopted" the missing kids souls or "Carried them in her arms" to quote Henry. This went until Afton broke in and tore the animatronics apart.

[@haleypannell7699]

MatPat doesn't stop the video every 2 seconds to explain himself challenge: IMPOSSIBLE

[@blacklight683]

He made a 1h video over a 16m one dear god

[@kassie-stuff]

But that’s what…giving a reaction is? If you guys really wanted to watch this video uninterrupted, the original video is right there.

[@blacklight683]

@кαѕѕιє ѕтυƒƒ there is reacting and there is what ever mat is doing his "reaction" is 4times longer than the actual video

[@haleypannell7699]

@@kassie-stuff firstly, it's a joke, calm down. Second, if he didn't pause every two seconds and went into the video REALLY wanting to hear this girls points against his theory then he would wait. She goes on to say exactly what he just said after he unpauses the video half the time. Just seems like an ego thing.

[@thezeckromizder2097]

Mat, regarding the Remnant inside the Funtime Animatronics... Couldn't it be the Agony or Anger of the souls of the five missing children but not their souls? Since the Funtime are acting more berserk (Except for Baby), it mean that the souls are not present but it is the anger they still had at being killed at a young age. This could clear up the confusion of Sister Location and FNAF 3

[@ryismazin]

I've also had this thought!

[@artmayel9627]

Game theory theory: Mat is doing a Disney and it’s getting every FNAF creator into GT in order not to get contradicted by them :o (Jk of course, I love everyone there and it’s great seeing John and new guys interact with the channel)

[@IDsFantasy]

Oh don't worry I am more than willing to contradict him lol

[@patogmo2201]

I just watched this theory yesterday! I was super excited for a react but never thought it'd actually happen

[@austinator1387]

53:00 something I always thought about was Mike’s quote “I found them, I put them back together, after discussing what somewhat sounds like revisiting the souls of FNAF 2. “At first they didn’t recognize me, but then they thought I was you.” When does this happen in the games? At first we though it was sister location but those animatronics never think Mike is William. It would make sense that this was FNAF 1. Maybe Mike is the third party, but now we need to doubt why. In FNAF 3 we see happiest day and whatnot, but what if that’s only for the suits. Can soul remnant be split? Maybe that’s what is meant by putting them back together.

[@777SilverPhoenix777]

maybe its remnant and agony that's being split?

[@austinator1387]

@@777SilverPhoenix777 that could be. Perhaps remnant is more substantial and picky. It sticks to the metal. Remnant possess more, maybe a suit. That could also be why the pizza plex in its entirety is “possessed”.

[@brendanowens288]

Coming back to this after watching the fnaf movie and hearing Marat say “a location can be closed and still have a security guard” was so cool

[@Darktree6621]

im so happy her content is finally reaching you! she's amazing

[@IDsFantasy]

[@myra8781]

This intro already got me feeling bad for him 0:12 This entire video has made me feel bad for him, deserves to be in the movie just as much as any other Fnaf KZbinr

[@RockinAfr0]

My god, that burn at the start of the video regarding accuracy of the timeline went SO HARD that even I felt that, and I don't even live in the same continent as MatPat!!

[@breathofthedeity2366]

58:30 I think I have a rearrangement of the timeline in this instance to fix this problem. Afton kills the first 5 in the old location. Eventually when fnaf 2 location opens in 87, he kills more kids which possess the toy animatronics. He notices the puppet acting strange (his first encounter of haunted animatronics). He then dismantles the toy animatronics to build the funtimes ( he could've even used the plastic shells of the toys to make the faceplates of the funtimes, maybe). Elizabeth dies, and Afton decides to try again with more animatronics, but needs more remnant metal, so he goes to the '93 fnaf 1 location (which could potentially be run down like the mini game) to dismantle the original 5 which now have their brand new designs like mentioned in the phone calls. Obviously, he gets spring locked, and the timeline continues on as normal. One nuance that I realized is that the fnaf 1 paycheck mentions foul odor and there's plenty of evidence that it's Michael, but logically, tampering with animatronics that have corpses inside would make anyone smell bad regardless. Another thing is that since at this point Afton probably isn't allowed in the company, but making a false identity for a night shift where nobody will see you would work. Under the original idea that Michael is the one that did the night shifts, the company clearly doesn't do background checks, so it's almost as likely that William could also get the job. He would probably learn the animatronics' behavior and patterns throughout the week, get the check, and then go in an extra night in which he dismantles them but gets spring locked. But these are just theories. SOME GAME THEORIES! Thanks for reading

[@Sean-qg3gg]

I just wanna contribute my own ideas. I don’t think the FNAF 2 paycheck should be a cause for confusion in the timeline. The paycheck we see is the one created by Steve, and may not be what Michael actually got on his round to burn everything. Secondly, I think Molten MCI could exist, in that we know the Funtimes don’t necessarily have to have the ‘85 victims at debut. They would just be mechanisms to capture remnant (being successful, Elizabeth as Baby, one victim in Funtime Freddy), then William goes to Freddy Fazbear’s Pizza in 1993 to get the remnant, and must’ve placed it in Freddy, Ballora, Foxy (since it’s not just Freddy that makes Molten Freddy). The night after, he gets springlocked. The souls rest, but not 100%. Another thing I wanna bring up are Candy Cadet’s stories. The cats and orphans have the theme of putting something to rest, with the snake having to be gutted, while the keys is an attempt to save people. I think the snake gutting is a simultaneous act of saving the cats and ending William (he is technically one of the cats. Maybe Henry is one of the cats instead, so he is simultaneously the victim and the one taking action). The keys I think represent Henry’s failure. Instead of separating each subject’s (William, Baby, Molten Freddy and whatever kids are of it, Michael, and Charlie) spirits, he tried to do it at the same time, but as was a recent theory prior to the timeline, it seemed to have 0 effect, and everyone’s still around. I had this epiphany of the keys story literally just when it was explained to be different. We need to recognize that in some of the games, the events are only meant to symbolize what’s trying to be ended. Basically, I don’t think we should look at Candy Cadet’s stories as foreshadowing in the context of what Michael could be doing, since Michael doesn’t seem to have much of an influence based off these stories. This applies to other characters, even Charlie. Pizzeria Simulator is Henry’s game.