Does This Town Put Its Daughters At Risk To Protect Its Sons? | The Steubenville Incident

[@HaveFaith_11]

It’s so sad that her OWN FRIENDS testified against Jane!! There are photos & videos where you can SEE how inebriated she really is. It’s horrifying with how many people were around Jane that night & didn’t HELP HER!!

[@jenm9702]

They were never her friends first of all, cause why tf would you leave your friend alone with bunch of guys

[@heathergabbysalomon3614]

So my now adult son saved a classmate when he was in high school. So while at a party she drank a bit too much. And a couple of guys were trying to do S.A. on her He luckily was right there and stopped it to this day ( 6 years later) are the best of friends. She is constantly thanking me for raising such an amazing human. I truly believe he not only saved her je also stopped them from being arrested and going to court all those things

[@rachelrae860]

That is amazing and you must have raised your kid right ❤. Reading this comment warms my heart ❤️

[@terridemaio2926]

KUDDOS TO HIM THANK GOD

[@lauren248x]

Well done for raising a level headed gentleman 🫶🏼

[@angelang222]

What a standup guy! Great job on raising him right. Unfortunately these kind of guys are few and far between. I wish I had someone like your son when it happened to me. I’m ok and I’m healed from it but it affected me for about 16 years of my life after.

[@martinezfamily6432]

I'm glad he was there but the last sentence threw me off. Maybe he stopped them from hurting her but not reporting it Period just leaves it open for them to do it & quite possibly more than once. But we're glad they were saved from court and what not? *Just a thought y'all don't hate

[@toddlerqueen6791]

I was 4 yrs old, when I first lost my innocence. Not that I remember ever being innocent, or what it’s like to just be a child. For years I was manipulated & trained with violence, pain, fear, & even gentleness, to be nothing more than a toy. At age 13, I was assaulted again (in front of my best friend) but this time I was going to be brave & strong. Hoping I could stop it from happening to someone else, we filed a police report. I had to relive the details to a detective, a grand jury and then again at trial. His attorney tried to insinuate that my long, oversized tweety bird gown may have been too revealing. That 40+ yr old man with a prior r@pe conviction, got 11/29@30% & did less than 3 months. I ended up with drug abuse issues, Multiple suicide attempts, and counseling. I’m stronger for it but I still have a lot of issues to work through.

[@kalpajha3002]

@toddlequeen6791, Hi, if just only reading your message hurt my heart and made me feel for you, i can't even imagine what awful things you have endured and seen in your life. You didn't deserve any of it. Im so sorry. A lot of people in this world are so cruel and inhumane. I really wish the best for you and hope you find your happiness and hold on to your strength. Turn that passion into a positive and be the best person you can be. You deserve to be loved and happy and don't let anything or anyone stand in your way. Sadly, we can't change our past or the people that we were put with, but we can change our future. Remember, when you will in life, only then will those evil people lose.

[@paigebarker1468]

So happy to see you cover this case!! I live about 3 hours away from Steubenville, when this all came out I fresh out of high school, about a week away from starting my freshman year of college. I was genuinely so scared for so long. Obviously starting out in college, I wanted to have fun, to go to parties, let loose, drink a bit, etc. But instead, I spent my weekends and nights out ALWAYS concerned about my safety and consistently watching out for others and what they might do when I wasn't looking. Guys like this are the absolute reason for the fear that women carry with them throughout life. I'm beyond thankful that I've never been fully taken advantage of in a situation like this (though I have been in a lesser manner) but I do have several friends who have, sadly, suffered in this same way and the emotional damage it causes is absolutely detrimental. I appreciate you bringing light to these situations and types of violence. I know it isn't easy to research, much less talk about publicly, but it is SO important for people to understand what this state lets men get away with. Because "boys will be boys" right? WRONG. "Boys" are boys, THESE kinds of "boys" are MONSTERS and EVIL. They are r**ists, they are predators, and in my opinion, they should be locked up UNDER the jail. But instead, they get a soft little slap on the wrist, and then get to go on to college and into a whole new pool of potential victims. It's disgusting, it's sad, and it's cruel, but it's something women (all women, but especially in Ohio with how rampant it seems to be) need to be aware of and be prepared for to be able to protect themselves if they were to have one of these baby b*tch boys try to attack them!

[@SouthernMimi2]

I hate it when people defend crimes and do cover ups and victim blame. I feel so bad for the victim bc her sentence is for life. It will change her life and it will never be the same. My heart goes out to her. ❤ Thank you Zara , we do need to have these discussions.

[@jennifermello5993]

No one should worry about drinking and going to a party. I don't think anyone thinks something like this is ever gonna happen to them, especially when ur amongst friends. This is so sad. These boys took everything from her. This world is falling apart in every way possible. I hope this poor girl received the proper therapy that she would have needed and may still need. So sad

[@DeeElizabethFlint]

Agreed!!!

[@guardingthemoon]

Everybody ( in America) has an older sibling or cousin, or a friend that has one, that's willing to buy you alcohol when you're in high school. Its very common to go to house parties when somebody's parents are out of town OR to get wasted in the woods or a field.

[@donnagardner3932]

I grew up in a small town and we had people in power covering up soooooo much if it involved sports people or people with certain last names. It hasn't changed much in the 44 years I've been here. So sad. Lots of love from Wyoming USA ❤

[@HaveFaith_11]

Cases like this INFURIATES ME!!! I’m a Rape & DV survivor. I know how it feels having people not believe you & bully you. It’s heartbreaking 💔! It’s absolutely DISGUSTING & DEVASTATING when the higher ups & a town protects the PREDATORS & ABUSERS. In countless cases they will bully & blame the victim(s). Those little monsters distributed CHILD P & REVENGE PORN!! If my child did something so horrific I would March them down to the police station & wouldn’t be sticking up for them 😡.

[@kalpajha3002]

I absolutely agree with you. Im really sorry for all the horrific things you have endured. You didn't deserve any of it. I hope you will heal truly. I hope your future will be filled with only love, happiness, positivity, and strength.

[@cedardryad]

From what she said, it definitely sounds like she was roofied. Someone that has experience with drinking and has gotten drunk in the past knows how it feels. For her to say it felt different means she was most likely roofied.

[@lj0727]

People don't want to believe. When I was about 25 I was drugged.. I had been partying and drinking since I was like 16.. I knew what being drunk felt like and I couldn't handle my liquor.. I could drink multiple shots and multiple beers and be alright. This night, I had two ciders and one tequila shot, and I ended up unconscious on the bathroom floor in the bar. The bouncer had to carry me outside into an Uber my friend then carried me inside his house. When I woke up the next day, no one wanted to believe me when I said I was drugged. They all said I was just over reacting and I just had too much to drink. Thankfully, I had friends that took care of me and didn't leave me alone... or else the group of guys who drugged me would have been able to take me wherever and do whatever. Instead, my friends got me home safe. But yeah I just remember how horrible it felt that most wouldn't believe me and instead blamed me for drinking too much.. when I only had had two fricken cider drinks and one shot over like 3 hours. I would've been technically sober enough to drive at that rate not be unconscious face first on a dirty club floor.

[@cedardryad]

@lj0727 I'm so sorry you had to go through this. It's bad enough you were drugged but to have people that knew you blame you is even worse. I'm glad you had people looking out for you though.

[@becsblue9424]

Absolutely!

[@fefe1179]

My gender studies teacher showed our class this case documentary. The silence in the room of all the women so mind blowingly frustrated at everything. The world didn’t get this way we let it happen and created it. Heartbreaking 💔

[@laceyfontenot186]

In Louisiana, when i was a teen, the drinking age was 18 and changed to 21 two months before i turned 18. The small town i was from had a lawsuit trying to keep the drinking age 18, so for a couple of years some bars and stores still sold to 18-20 years because "if you are old enough to vote or join the military, you are old enough to drink. At 14-18 i used a fake id or bought from someone who was willing to sell to minors. There was always someones parents out of town or had a hunting camp that was having a party. I no longer live in that little town but have friends that allow their 13- 17 years old to drink saying that we did it so it's fine. These small towns have absolutely nothing for teenagers to do and treat football players like legends.

[@sondrahedges]

New subscriber here and thank you SO much for covering this case. I followed it very closely as I went through almost the exact same thing. My senior year of high school I went to a guys house to hook up, but ended up getting pressured to drink alcohol while I was there. After his friends left, what I didn't know is that someone stayed in the closet to record our entire encounter. This video was then sent to others in my high school where I was put to blame for everyone involved getting suspended. The police never did anything for me because I was "almost 18". This just shows the type of world we are STILL living in and it makes me sick.

[@sammy5914]

I feel so sorry for Jane Doe 😞 that poor girl went through all that then had even her own friends turn against her. I really hope she is living a good life now and found some real friends to look after her.

[@maryscott9430]

Excuse me WHAT????? They got found guilty, did jail time but still played college ball?? Oh hell no!! That is so messed up! I wonder where they are now. Do their gf/wives know what they did??

[@alyssasmith610]

Cases like this make me feel like an eye for an eye is justice.

[@maryscott9430]

@@alyssasmith610 absolutely agree!! I actually tried to find them now to see what they are doing. Im not above emailing employer or school and giving them this case details. Just in case they didnt know

[@SuziMonkey2]

I was NOT a responsible teen. I was lucky to have a truly great group of friends (male & female) so I was always safe…but only in hindsight! I was frequently in dangerous situations. 😢

[@debrachelette2538]

And, additionally, my husband and I were a set of those parents whose home was always the gathering place for our kids' friends. We were laid back, counted heads at mealtimes and just threw a little more in there in order to have enough. We did crazy stuff like with em ALL the time...not just holidays. Like teaching them how to do a Jacob's Ladder, bobbing for apples, making candy/caramel apples (ya show em, then back away and watch em), popcorn balls, pulling REAL taffy, real bon fires and roasting weiners/marshmallows/smores/baked potatoes/corn wrapped in foil at the edge of the coals...fun stuff. And, to see their eyes light up and watch life through their innocent eyes was worth EVERYTHING to us both!! When our kids became older, we knew they would party and probably drink. We asked them to never drink and drive or stay in a situation that is uncomfortable. Call. We will come. No questions asked. Safety is PARAMOUNT!! When one of them was having a significant event in their lives...graduation, 18th Birthday, whatever. We would offer our home as a safe haven for said party. One of our buildings outside was clean, had tables, AC/heat, etc and a wide door that wood open to the yard/patio. We had a BBQ grill, a huge fire pit and a HUGE blue tooth speaker. Our patio area was a 5 car area and wrapped to the house and street. We had tiki lamps to keep away the skeeters if needed. We had GREAT neighbors whom i always forewarned and invited. As each person arrived, my son or grandson would direct parking and they had to come into the house. They were escorted to make sure this happened. They gave me their name, #, parents name, #, their keys and I explained I would be calling said parent and explaining where they were, they wouldn't be allowed to drive if at all impaired, I have their keys and breathalyzer tests. They always agreed. I would label each set of keys w/name, #, car type/color and hang em on a board my husband had made just for this purpose. At the top, he painted, "Party Key Board". Lol! We stayed up and supervised. Never had one problem. The kids that stayed, I gave their parents a courtesy call if they wanted one...some said it was okay after the 1st conversation. We would often have kids on every available surface which included 4 air mattresses. Next day there would be Hot Pockets, scrambled eggs, bacon and biscuits...their choice when they started waking. They were safe, had celebrated their important milestone with beer pong games, chasers, jello shots, pizza, roasted weiners and marshmallows, but no drugs and never any assaults. Just a lot of fun for them whether we understood it or not. They all returned home the next day with strict instructions to go straight home and have their Mom/Dad call me and let me know they had made it. Never failed. Each always complied. When you give kids a little room, but expect accountability and you're there for counsel or support or whatever, it actually makes them feel safer...better. It gives them structure. Stability. Kids want and NEED that.

[@DeeElizabethFlint]

I absolutely love this!!!!! My husband and I just had our first baby last March and you are the epitome of exactly what kind of parents we strive to be!

[@Autumnpearly]

I was going under from anesthesia for an emergency c-section and I couldn’t count down anymore but I STILL GAVE MY MOM MY PHONES PASSCODE TO TAKE PICTURES!!!

[@kokokeane3674]

Samee!

[@samanthad7116]

Most of the time in small town America there are usually a few people over 21 who still hang out with high schoolers (they can't get over their high school days 😅) so they usually get the alcohol. From my experience in a very small football town, the parents knew about the parties and were okay with it and a lot of the time the parents provided the alcohol for us. The parents liked to party after big games too! When I would throw parties my mom usually knew and my uncle owned a liquor store so he'd sell me alcohol in my teenage years. Now that I'm in my 30s with kids I couldn't imagine letting this happen.

[@dbpaparazzi]

Just came here to say I love you and your channel ❤ and LOL about that chin contour mini-fail I honestly didn't even notice 😂

[@GigiOnTheMic]

From a former U.S. high schooler party goer( 2008-2012) This is very accurate , I believe the sneaky part of it and because its not legal to drink until 21 here. Most kids are burnt out from high school and college by the time they are 21 lol. Older kids usually buy the alcohol, and there is a lot of binge drinking so you don’t drink to get tipsy you get drunk to get super super drunk. ( I hope this helps) now I was a teenager when this happened so it makes sense, but I will say I have a 17 year old sister and this culture has seemed to change, kids are a lot more aware now and yes they drink but because of social media they know it can come back to haunt them so they are more careful.

[@awewhat2986]

I was a highscoolar from 2013-2017 I personally wasn't a partyer not till I had turned 18 but I started out as a binge drinker and everyone else around me was too and I remember when I was in school ppl coming to school hungover or bringing liquor and these were normally my underclassmen acting like this while most of the seniors had turned to pills coke or weed if liquor and beer don't do it for them he'll when I was a senior there were freshmen doing coke and pills. I guess it all depends on where your located and what school you go to depends on if the students waiver towards drugs and alcohol more v.s. studies Now a days at 24 I don't drink at all unless I know a drink would match a meal

[@PuertoRicanqueen90]

American I high schooler from 2004-2008...exactly..this seems pretty normal of what they did... It was sick then and it's sick now

[@GigiOnTheMic]

@@PuertoRicanqueen90 i agree! It’s extremely sad and it was normal to hear stories like these throughout high school. My heart goes out to those young women who went through that.

[@GigiOnTheMic]

@@awewhat2986 ooo yes! Lots of people who partied throughout those times and turned to pills later turned to herion. I live in higher middle class small town, and so many people have passed away. People who came from financially stable homes, it didn’t discriminate at all. I’m now almost 30 and I don’t drink except maybe wine at with a steak ever once in awhile as well.

[@lacylu77]

Kkk

[@nikkicollins4315]

Hi my girl!! Just wanted to let you know that I absolutely love your content, and totally enjoy listening to you.. You have the BEST nails!! LOL, I know that it's totally random, but I have been meaning to tell you for the past like 5 videos, and I get caught up in listening, and forget.. 😂 Anywhoooo, keep up the amazing job! Your make-up is on point as usual too girl!! Much love to you & yours.. ~Nikki from Boston, MA. USA ❤

[@Boing2699]

God this case pisses me off so incredibly much. Those boys should have stayed in prison for a very long time. At the VERY LEAST, they shouldn’t have been able to continue their sports careers

[@DeeElizabethFlint]

In America, it’s most common for teens to throw parties when parents are out of town or gone for the night because even if the parents are okay with drinking, if cops come the parents can be arrested so most of them are super against allowing it (depending on which state of course too) I was very guilty of it all through highschool. We always knew someone older who had a fake ID and would get us alcohol. My parents only knew about the times the cops came.

[@lesleybegg1287]

Greetings Zara. Thank you for the case. Love from one Rugby loving country to another. Les from South Africa 🇿🇦

[@melanieperry1780]

New follower, one of your videos started this morning and I'm hooked. Thank you for sharing your story telling skills with us.

[@christyjenkins8429]

I live in Texas and have a daughter and as she was growing up I would have house parties but only if I was present so that I could make sure noone drove home that couldn't or that if someone was drinking too much I could jump in and help them clean up and get them to sleep it off. We do live in a small town where everyone knows everyone and some of my daughters friends would have or allow house parties where the parents were not present and my daughter would get so upset with me because i wouldn't allow her to go but for her safety if I couldn't be there then she couldn't go. Her being my only child I worried about her so much and not to mention the person who had the house party with no parents ended up going to jail because the party got too out of hand and the father was arrested for contributing to minors and served his time which opened a ton of eyes here in our town about parties for our children. This is just what we experienced in our small town, my daughter is now 36 years old has children of her own.

[@marie-louisea.kendeck128]

There was absolutely nothing consensual about this. She was clearly not in a state to do or say anything, they raped her and they deserve the worst punishment there is.

[@cynthiabrooklyn6369]

I have had a similar situation happen when I was in high school. It still effects me today and I'm 60 years old. I remember it all every second of it. I won in the end because I have had a great life with 6 children with a 42year marriage. You can survive girls don't let them win.

[@kristiriley]

I am a brand new subbie to you. You just popped up on my recommended today! I think you're absolutely amazing! So I subbed immediately. I wanted to comment on the whole Trent's best friend thing. But first, I'd just want to preface by saying, that I do not condone anything that happened to Jane at all. I believe her 1000%. & I do think there are times where you can be drunk & remember things, & at times, drink way to much & not remember a single thing at all. It is sad, that we live in a world that we can not trust people in our circles that we hang around. Not saying that it is their job to babysit, but people should be more open & upfront about things when they see that something bad is happening. You CAN speak up. If you see something, say something. I am a HUGE advocate of that. With that being said, it almost seemed as though Trent's friend was going to do the right thing. I was right there with you on that Zara. But when you said he started showing others the picture, & you said he had deleted it by morning. I said, Aww shit, I bet you someone he showed it to, probably talked him out of it. Told him to delete it. & said something about having loyalty to Trent. Blah, blah, blah. Which really sucks, because that would've really helped assist imo, not only with giving Jane's case credibility, but also her friends would have seen the fact that his own best friend is trying to tell him to stop doing this horrendous thing. You know what I mean? And it could have turned out wayyy different for her having more support. Period. Anyways, I hope Jane is ok today. My heart goes out to her. I've been through something similar. Not anywhere near as public as in social media, bless her heart. But with having alchohol possibly being drugged involved & not being able to consent, coming from a small town where everyone knows & all of that. There's alot more to it. But I get it, I do. SA is no joke. I hope she has been able to heal! #IfYouSeeSomethingSaySomething

[@banditpoon714]

Been waiting til I was done volunteering to watch and its finally time!!

[@McBraSan]

Zara, I’m a new subscriber and I want to thank you for your respectful content. I’m in graduate school for criminology and the reason is Kyron Hormon. He was our neighbor and the cutest little boy and then he disappeared. This case is wild and layered like an onion. Your mind would be blown if you looked into it! Have a save, healthy, happy and blessed Christmas and New Year!! 🎉

[@mewithachannel]

Thank you for withholding the photos. I do not want to see them. Your respect for the victims and people in general is outstanding.

[@constanzaflv]

This is why you need to go out with real friends, people you trust. Of course none of what happened to this girl is her fault, when I was 18 I was raped while being drunk, I wasn’t with my usual group of friends and no one even noticed. It took me years to talk about it… But it taught me to never trust people I don’t know enough. That’s why I decided to go to law school. The guy who did this to me never got any punishment, but I hope I can help other victims in these kind of cases, when usually people don’t believe them, they blame them for being drunk and you feel so ashamed and dirty. That’s why you run to the shower and wash your clothes, you don’t even think about possible evidence you don’t want to admit what happened to you. This make me so mad, because it happens all the time.

[@aprilwillard6331]

I've dealt with something similar to you. I wasn't even drinking... I didn't press charges or tell anyone. I had to write it down in a letter to give it to my boyfriend at the time.

[@rachelrae860]

I have a similar story as well. I was drinking which I never did and I was 18 and it was 3 guys my best friend and the guy she was dating. Well I passed out and when my best friend and the guy she was seeing came out of the room they didn't see us well the bathroom door was locked and the guy who was seeing kicked the door down and both guys were in there with me but I can't say what was done but I had liked the one guy from the club and while my best friend and the guy she was seeing was in her room,, the other 2stole her mother's jewelry. It was so dumb of us to invite them to her house but her parents were out of town. So needless to say I never drank again and I'm 53 now and seeing this just made me think I want to share my story and because of you,, you gave me the courage to post this so thank you❤. I know it seems kind of all over the place but I hope you understand what I was trying to say. Also I never pressed charges but I had no idea where the dude lived or anyting and I just knew him from the club that we went to every Friday night so I hope someone needs this and kind of learns from it and I'm not saying not to drink but drink responsibly and then of course these days we have to worry about people putting stuff in our drink thank goodness I don't go out anymore and I am blessed with a seventeen-year-old daughter if you go back and read my original comment then you will see what I was talking about my daughter

[@constanzaflv]

@@aprilwillard6331 I hope you are healing now girl 💕it takes time but we are strong.

[@constanzaflv]

@@rachelrae860 I’m so sorry that you crossed paths with those guys, disgusting human beings. I hope you were able to heal 💕. And I get the no pressing charges thing, usually it ends up being worse. We have to be better.

[@rachelrae860]

@@constanzaflv thank you so much and I went to a therapist and she helped me so much. I tried to block it out for years and like I said I really haven't thought about it in forever but when I saw this I just felt like I had to tell it. Nobody else knows besides my best friend that I was with. I hope young girls would just be more aware of people that they really don't know

[@rachelrae860]

Hi Zara I'm late watching but know I'm always going to be here loving and supporting your channel. I just adore you ❤️🥰😍🌹💋🌈😘🪷💄and you know how I love your personality so much it's everything. Can't wait to watch and I'm watching now. I've never heard of this case and can't wait to hear it from you ❤. It's truly so scary and I have one daughter who will be a senior this year and has never went to a house party and she could care less. I always have talked to her since like 13 years old and I told her she could not have any social media and she was like mom I don't want social media and that was last year. All she cares about is doing good in school. She is an awesome kid. Sorry for the novel but I had her at 24 weeks pregnant and she wasn't supposed to be here. I'm not going to go into detail cause I'd be typing forever. Just let's say I'm blessed ♥️💯. I told a short story about something that happened to me similar to this case. I hope you see that comment but literally it would have been a book so I didn't want to do that to you. It's already a novel lol 😂

[@tammywhiting6901]

Hi Zara you are so respectful to the families you are talking about, keep up the great work, and good luck on your move! I hate moving and oacking😭, your awesome 💖

[@lauren248x]

I found the photo in question of Jane Doe, if someone is being carried around in that state, they are NOT in a state to consent! How can people think it’s right or normal to do this, to someone in that condition 😳

[@kalpajha3002]

@laurhawk Hi, can you please let me know where i can find that photo?

[@angelang222]

Wild parties in high school Was such a regular thing I didn’t even realize how awful it was until something bad happened to me at one of them.

[@jessicam4072]

Zara!!!! So excited to see you!! ❤

[@debrachelette2538]

These young men should've been charged and sentenced as rapists. Football beside. The coach and all of the onlookers should've been charged with that law that provides protection from society from their future behavior...something about being on the sidelines and doing nothing, cheering it on, sharing and laughing about the commission of this felony. Jody Foster starred in a true life movie (can't recall the name of the movie) representing a woman who was gang raped in a 47:55 bar on a pin ball machine and pool table. The rapists were found not guilty largely bc of her reputation. She was a loose party loving girl!! However, her attorney was DETERMINED and came up with the idea to charge the rapists and the onlookers in the bar with a law that is a felony when you watch or cheer a felonious act and do nothing. ALL of them, including each rapists were found guilty of these felony charges.

[@lilyj-nm1ii]

Every girl once was a young girl having a crush on some boy. She just wants or dreams of some kind affection and sweetness from that boy. Look at how such cute and naive dream sometimes ends up. How sad it is!! This world really has some very horrible young people. Sometimes some teenagers are really bloody cruel and evil.

[@thebeX-files]

I grew up in a football town in America. I know of many SA’s that were done by football players that were kept hushed and covered up. I myself was in a situation and when I finally told someone who it was that said no he couldn’t have, he’s a football player. Sports will always be more important than the safety of young females in football heavy towns.

[@alyssasmith610]

It is horrific how football is a god to these people. Truly horrific what they will allow in the name of football.

[@thebeX-files]

@@alyssasmith610 it’s absolutely disgusting. Football is not that important.

[@SuziMonkey2]

Thank you Zara!

[@gabbybumpus]

I love when you post you are the best!

[@Abutado]

I have 4 daughters, statistically at least one of them is bound to be raped (strictly going on statistics, lifestyle choices can increase and decrease that rate, but that's the risk that stands currently). It's my absolute fear, because whether or not they survive the rape, they have to live with that feeling and the social stigma forever. Their rapist could be anyone, the threat could be completely unexpected. I raise my girls to be aware of the risks, the no no zone, keywords and phrases and behaviors, how to fight it off, all the advice I can give as a mother and child victim of SA. I'm currently pregnant with my first son, I'm excited, I know he will be a gentleman with all the female influences that'll be there to guide him as well as a strong, respectful and dependable father to teach him how to be a good man. Teaching how to treat women right isn't raising a wuss, it's raising a respectable member of society. When men are respectful, women and girls tend to be as well.

[@MariaJones-hd4es]

If someone is passed out how on earth can they say she gave consent? Sorry but whichever way you dress it up, rape is rape!! I can't believe them boys only served 2 years n under for their part in the abuse n rape of this poor young girl, so so sad. Zara, I like the comment that you gave about rape n murder both ends life, I've never really thought of it like that but you are so right, it really does! No-one ever gets 'over' a rape or sexual abuse they just learn to cope/live with it as time goes on. Thank you Zara for telling these stories the way you do, with compassion to the victims as it should be.

[@jabellatv3240]

Now being an adult and having a teenage daughter I can’t believe how many house parties I attended at her age but I trusted the people around me because we all knew each other since we were literally in preschool and elementary school we definitely looked out for each other it was only when we allowed others in our circle that some messed up things would go down but I’d be damn if I let my daughter go to a house party unless I know who what when and where 😂

[@a_cristine5626]

Im glad I found ur channel, like the way you present the stories, I wonder if you would be able to find anything on this case SPRINGFIELD, Ore. - Kyle Pfaff killed Sarah Coleman. I really want to know the details to what really happenes to Sarah ... thank you.

[@mamamickey2708]

So sad!! These young men have to be taught that if a young lady or man are not able to say yes or no that means no!! Rape is NEVER ACCEPTABLE

[@user-iq5wi8gc9g]

My heart goes out to Jane Doe! This case has my blood boiling.

[@naivenostalgia]

I live in Connecticut, sandwiched between New York & Massachusetts. I started dating one of my now ex-bfs when we were 20, so not too long after high school. We both attended the same one. I never drank or partied like that until after high school, but he did & told me some of the craziest stories. He said that he hooked up with a girl on one couch while another guy hooked up with another girl on a different couch in the same room. Moving forward to a few years ago when I was 28 or 29. Four of my coworkers rented a house together & would hold parties pretty often. I attended my fair share but never witnessed anything too wild. However, I heard stories about different couples hooking up only a few feet away from each other multiple times. None of these people were swingers & the couples didn't interact with each other at all beyond being in the same room. I didn't know this was a thing either, but apparently this is pretty common over here in the US of A. (No judgment to consenting adults doing their thing! Most people from the stories I mentioned were shitty, immoral humans who would ply girls with alcohol way past the point of consent. So, my tone might seem judgy because I do judge them.)

[@lauri.renee925]

This case enraged me! I hate that these men were able to just go on with theirs lives after being so depraved!!

[@dannielletaylor8927]

I am a local. I actually attended Big Red high School a long time ago. I'll tell you first thing, the football players are royalty in this town. This poor girl when people here talk about it, she's the problem in everyone's eyes. I wish I was kidding. I know people who knew those involved, they still (when it's actually talked about) blame her. To have the audacity to punish the football royalty. I'm embarrassed to be from this area.

[@kimibear448]

How these kids get so much alcohol is usually things like older siblings, raiding parents liquor stashes, and sometimes from older boyfriends or friends

[@maryannfascetti6421]

Zara this is awful. Their sentences were only a slap on the hand. They should have gotten more time. What example does that set for those who do the same? May they all be haunted. Most of that town is just evil. Because of damn football. Healing prayers to Jane and her family.

[@LottieLaRats]

8:03 Some alchohol stores that buy damaged stock (missing or dented beer cans from cases) to sell to minors as long as you just say you're over 21 in the U.S. even if its illegal. They mark up the price super high cause they know that teenagers will buy it anyway. There's one I know of in my city that pays off police to not report them

[@Bookitty4792]

Social media like what this channel provides is awesome, the people that use social media to exploit others is terrible 😢

[@thatswhatshesaid6326]

It’s absolutely disgusting listening to this. What the hell kind of kids is this town raising?? I don’t give a shit if they are the President of the United States the appropriate punishment for the horrific crime that was committed by multiple people, and then again with a large part of the community needed to be taken!!! I am a parent of a 21 year old daughter and 3 boys (16,18,19) I can’t even imagine standing on either side of this violation of a human being. How devastating for this young lady along with her family. This is the kind of stuff that makes people take some action in their own hands. I’m not so sure I could blame them! * by the way, the Netflix documentary is on KZbin.

[@impressionsbyangie7418]

LOVE YOU ZARA!! THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO!!!! 🙋🏻‍♀️💞💞💞

[@SkyStrife92]

I mean the place almost sounds like it's pronounce "Stupidville" so I guess that checks out. Like stop blaming the victims and take responsibility of the boys' shitty behaviour. I mean the chat conversation those boy's had and then also deleting evidence the next morning, like they knew they were in the wrong.

[@muppet-fan]

You have to wonder how boys that age are already so jaded and desensitized to cruel sex and rape that they would do this to a passed out drunk classmate out in the open at a party. Well...look at what is available for viewing for porn on the internet. They learn to have zero respect for women watching that crap. Add alcohol and and a sense of athlete entitlement and well...this is the awful result.

[@keke90001]

So basically their punishment was they weren't able to play football for like a year. Because they got right out and was able to go to college and play college ball. Crazy

[@HollerMa71]

I can provide some insight into the question about how these parties happen-- Someone's parents are out of town, Someone has a friend/sibling/cousin/whatever who is over 21 (the legal age in the US) who will buy the alcohol. Party, Party, Party...The next day the close friends come over & help clean up. Not proud of it, but we did this dozens of times when I was a teenager.

[@DeeElizabethFlint]

I’ve been that drunk maybe 2 times in my whole life, that poor girl was NOT capable of ANY kind of consent. Sick.

[@katmack4215]

I'm just across the Ohio River..in West Virginia. Steubenville isn't super far from me at all..like 20-25 mins or so. Let me just say,it's pretty rough there though..😳

[@marycopeland5149]

It sounds like Jane Doe was drugged. She was probably slipped a "ruffy". This drug can make a person very sick. Unfortunately, there are young men in high school or college sports programs that think they are above the law and can get away with it. I feel just sick about what to this young woman. I'm thinking the girls that turned against Jane Doe because they 1. they were scared it might happen to them in the future or 2. they wanted to stay in with the popular group. 😢 There is a movie called Roll Red Roll.

[@alyssasmith610]

How do people say she consented with a straight face???

[@gigi5892]

At US🇺🇸 high-school parties, they usually get it from older friends or use their fake ID’s. It’s rare to ask their parents, but sometimes they do.

[@Rachelthewitch]

I feel like people don't take rape or sexual assault seriously unless it is a violent assault or by a complete stranger. People you know can be predators, being drunk is a mistake, sexually assaulting someone while they're drunk and unable to consent is not a mistake. It is a disgusting assault and using a human as an object never mind humiliating them as in this case.

[@lauren248x]

I’m 28 tomorrow (Aug 2nd) and my sister is 9 in Sept. Big age gap I know 😅 but stories like this scare the sh*t out of me for when she’s older 😢

[@jodiknuckles2676]

I literally just watched a movie on Tubi called assault and it’s almost identical to this case. It’s a bad world we live in when things like this happen😢

[@debbiepatrick399]

Some kids have parties when parents go out of town, they get someone older to buy alcohol,

[@meganlaroche]

I can’t express how bad I feel for this girl

[@MrLuisafernanda06]

I remember watching the documentary. It was disgusting to say the least In my opinion, Justice would be if those rapists suffered in jail the same abuse they did to her.

[@LifeWithAllOfUs]

Here in US kids always have parties when parents are out of town. Over drinking is a problem here

[@diamondtucker52]

This is terrible the fact that people knew what was happening and did nothing.

[@cherylwhite9071]

My sister drank a lot during high school, getting alcohol from the older guys on our street. One night I came home from work to find 1 of them trying to r@pe her. I stopped it that night, but it happened another night. My sister turned into an alcoholic after that. She is now 7 yrs sober, but suffers PTSD. It wasn't the only r@pe. These guys were r@ping many of the girls in our community. Not 1 was punished! I wish I could publish their names

[@parischyna.x9078]

only a year?! only 2 years? i feel ill omg i can’t stop crying

[@TinkTink0725]

Hi Zara, I love your content! You are so respectful to the victims and their families. I have a case you may be interested in. It's called the "Rock -n- Roll McDonald's Murder. It happened in Waldorf, Maryland. This case is insane, please check it out. The woman that was involved in it I was incarcerated with also. It is almost like a movie with all the twists in it. Thank you for what you do, I definitely look forward each week to your videos.

[@Autumnpearly]

I’m gonna look into this!! Sounds super interesting

[@jabellatv3240]

I’m from Maryland and have family in Waldorf and never heard of this case I’m definitely looking it up

[@TinkTink0725]

@jabellatv3240 it happened in 2015 she was arrested in May 2015 I went in 2 months later.

[@daisyvalencia81]

My grandma would never let me go anywhere unsupervised….I would argue that all my friends had more freedom than me and she would always say the same thing “ you will thank me someday “ and time has proven her 100% right she saved me from the evil of the world 🌎

[@brandibergheimer9038]

Yes if someone's parents were out of town then there was a party. Older siblings would buy the alcohol.

[@catrinabeatty7771]

I went to one of their rival schools. Grew up a half hr from stubenville. Ohio period is insane about football. Lots of things get pushed under the rug.

[@IZAgood_eh]

I hear the sarcasm oozing out of you and I respect it! Lol I equally speak fluent sarcasm, another reason you're one of my top 3 favorite KZbinrs (along with Annie Elise & Danielle Kirsty) love you girl!!

[@michellepopple9688]

Love your story telling. Have you heard of Caroline clackon from West Dunbartonshire so tragic

[@ericainncca9771]

I'm right there with you. The future looks scary.

[@AmyBR4b]

I hate that they got to go on and play college football like nothing ever happened… this is disgusting… this is their character. I pray the young lady has lived a great life and has prospered after these awful events happened to her.

[@skyeryoul3141]

im in america and if i saw that in a bedroom at party im calling 911 right away and breaking that bs up. idc if my mom finds out im at a party im not letting that happen! cuz wtf type of human being lets that happen

[@heatherdenton5421]

when i was in hs (like 17 yo) i was at a party w my 2 friends. one friend was trying to go to sleep w my other friend in the bed that the homeowners son let us have for the night, but some guy snuck in and tried assaulting my friend. she ran downstairs crying, i asked what was wrong and she told me and said that our other friend was left alone up there w him. i ran upstairs by myself, not even stopping to grab our guy friends (i told her while i was running up the stairs to grab them right then bc i didnt have time to waste) and burst into the room. all lights were off. i began screaming at the top of my lungs for him to wake up and get out of bed and he faked being asleep. i began pulling his hair out. he called me a bitch and told everyone i was kicking him out of his room. everyone there knew me and knew i wouldnt do it for no reason, and the hallway flooded w ppl kicking him out. turns out his hand was down my friends pants and had undone them, and she didnt know what else he wouldve done if i didnt come in ripping his hair our and screaming bloody murder

[@heatherdenton5421]

i had been sexually assaulted before at that point, and was not going to look over what my crying friend told me. i was absolutely enraged and screaming my head off at him, and everyone was saying “i had no idea he was even like that” bc they saw how he acted when i kicked him out. like a child. screaming blaming me.

[@IamTheMom]

I have 4 sons age range 9 to 24. I let all my boys know how to respect girls and women. And they also are very aware from their early teens that och if they ever violate a girl/woman in any way I will personally drag them to the police. I love them so much but that will never excuse bad behavior.

[@maireaddavern5829]

You must be very innocent to think this doesn't happen everywhere in every country no matter where you're from

[@gurlbrittany]

USA here haha. About parties: normally it’s while parents are gone. They usually do get caught just don’t care. They clean up when everyone leaves or their friends help. Usually alcohol comes from older “friends” that still hangout around teenagers. I’ve even been to week long parties. I just thought house parties were normal everywhere not just a US thing 😅

[@MichaelanRyan]

This is hard for me to say but when I was younger that happen to me ! But not a school or anything was with my “friends” and had to much to drink and was kinda going in and out and resmber guys just touching me all over my body don’t remember much after that 🤦‍♀️ but sad to say this happens a lot more than you could think monsters are real and we walk And talk to them everyday we even breath the same air ! Obviously why would they thing it’s okay if we was sober and not drinking would I ever touch y’all or let you no ! So it’s just crazy how much you really think you can “trust” sucks because I hope in this world or my next illl actually be able to trust some one 100 %

[@K.G-I.N.F.P.]

You double as asked for me 😅 because of your delicate voice and demeanor

[@hermoinekatz9879]

I absolutely did not like how you handled this case. Saying things like " I am sure she learned her lesson". It has nothing to do with how much she drank or what she was seeking that night. She couldn't consent. They r*ped her. The end. They are monsters.

[@PamelaH_HappyVibes]

Sports are serious here in the US. My Husband and some of our friends go to Friday Night High School Football games. We are empty nesters but, we have some young men from here that have went on to play in the NFL. To be honest, I feel like Saturday college football games are just as attended and watched as NFL. The NBA and College basketball games are intense too. This story is so awful! If she was ‘naked, unmoving and silent’ somebody should have helped her!!! This makes me furious! 🤬 The kid that took the photo to show her the next day may have had second thoughts because of snitch mentality. The parents of all of the juvenile delinquents that were there and knew what was going on but did nothing to stop it must be so proud. 🤦🏼‍♀️ Edit: If the Jane Doe ever reads this, this was NOT your fault!

[@vixxyblayze2207]

So they got convicted no justice from their sentences got to play and have a life yet this poor girl has a life sentence 😢 and her “friends” don’t get me started 🤬 I really hope she heals and gets the help she needs that town is dispicable

[@amandahartline237]

Ugghhhh!!! I hate to admit it but I grew up not far from there. While their football team is far from great, even in their area, the small town locals will instinctively try to protect the football players. It's the Ohio football/small town culture. I remember so many people being outraged by this but nothing seemed to happen. The outcome of these horrible events will continue to happen until we start holding perpetrators accountable.

[@kellywalter4]

Thank you, Zara for the work you do! Awareness is so important. This case is so similar to the case of Reteah (Ra-TAY-ah) Parsons of Nova Scotia, Canada. Women of all ages need to exercise extreme caution when heading out drinking. Monsters can hide in plain sight. 😢

[@pl.mags.dub.]

Drunk girls passed out in the toilet floor in the bar I work as security are able to give me their passcode for the phone or even open it for me but they are not in any state of giving the consent. It's automatic response. But they are too drunk to give consent. We always call parents to pick them up (even though they all 23yo or more) we call someone to pick them up because we can't just leave them out on the street like this.

[@HaveFaith_11]

It is sickening people blames the victim! She was a CHILD STILL. 16 is still so young! TEENS SHOULD BE RESPECTING & LOOKING OUT FOR EACH OTHER. What they did to “Jane Doe” is absolutely heartbreaking 💔! They stole her innocence away.