Does Weight Cutting Give Fighters Eating Disorders?

Taken from JRE MMA Show #133 w/"Sugar" Sean O'Malley:
open.spotify.com/episode/52DF...

[@RobertIDK]

Sean in every interview: "i dont really watch ufc" Sean in this interview: knows every single ufc fight reference that joe brings up, down to the round and method of victory

[@coleworldcole9438]

Just adding to that fight iq

[@lilhotbeef7066]

It’s the respect he has for Joe vs intrusive and oftentimes disrespectful reporters. The interviewers usually just aren’t worth the investment of time and energy it takes to enthusiastically express your genuine interests. I think Joe- being mellow and open to all, really makes it easy for people to comfortably talk about all sorts of things

[@darcycullenward7568]

Yeh I was thinking the same thing. But to be honest u can gauge a lot of just even watching highlights in mma. Where it goes right or wrong usually comes down to a couple of key moments, unlike other sports

[@Last_Chance.]

@@lilhotbeef7066 no it's just that he's fake

[@samwood5572]

​@@darcycullenward7568 9

[@drmojo5439]

My dad's 78 and still blames his gluttony on high school wrestling weight cuts, but of course the family knows the deal

[@evandercaldwell9993]

😂😂

[@richyyyyyy97]

What is he justafatass?

[@drmojo5439]

@@richyyyyyy97 learn English before trying to talk shit

[@Willy4206.]

Eh idk. The whole mentality for me is there’ll be plenty of time for gluttony when I’m 70

[@ethannielsen4289]

That’s my excuse to my wife. Don’t ruin this for me. Lmfao

[@woahblackbetty7691]

Joes podcasting is like his fight commentary. He gets laser focused on some unimportant detail and wont let it go 😂

[@jarmangill5911]

Nobody : Joe Rogan : He is putting him in Crucifix

[@HezzyEastside]

😂😂 it's frustrating AF sometimes! Joe really will stop a convo with a damn scientist to find out if a fight in 2004 ended by rear naked choke or armbar.

[@onlyinyaks]

I’m convinced the steroids made him mildy retarded with random interests in how the earth was formed & how fighter escape triangle chokeholds 🤣

[@JackyRogue]

You mean like the auto captions? 😆

[@myles5388]

s'called autism ma dude

[@alabamawyatt5490]

I never realized losing significant weight is so hard until I got depressed when my mom passed away last year and I gained 40 pounds. It took me 6 months to begin dieting, and another 6 to shed that extra weight.

[@CA-ly7my]

Sorry to hear about your mom, man. Keep your head up king 👑

[@DavidLopez-rk6em]

Depression caused my to binge eat for happiness cuz it was the only time I felt happy. I tried for years to diet and wasnt able to until I got on antidepressants. I thought I was invulnerable to mental health issues and had great self control, but I eventually found out thats not how it works

[@Danielson1818]

Super sorry about your mom. It's crazy how stress affects people differently, because I'm the exact opposite. Normally, I love food, but I stopped eating, and shed a bunch of weight under stress. Last year, my relationship of 4 years ended, and my mom got cancer, and I ended up losing 20lbs within a few weeks. That doesn't sound like a whole lot, but I'm a relatively average guy, and normally about 195, so losing 20lb shows a lot. My mom was telling me how I looked good, and all I could do was laugh at a compliment about being stress thin. The way our brain processes trauma is bonkers. Some cry and eat, and others laugh at their misery and starve.

[@James-gr5mx]

Do intermittent fasting and you can still eat your cheat meals everyday.

[@Im_telling_on_your_asses]

There was a man who once would eat because he was unhappy, and he then became unhappy because he ate. He was a bastard who was fat. His name - Fat Bastard. It's a vicious cycle

[@nathanwright845]

I really think he wanted 2 cheeseburgers lol

[@StoicDivinity]

It resignated with me

[@LuxuryBeatsMusic]

🍔 🍔

[@GTiR23]

who doesn't?!

[@rae7036]

lol i was hoping someone was gonna comment on that

[@ChuckwaldMartin]

@@StoicDivinity resonated...

[@yenohtnA]

Legend has it that Sean did, in fact, have 2 cheeseburgers.

[@patstefanou8919]

Sean is definitely a personality, but he also takes fighting as seriously as the best…much respect

[@GnarlyPayne]

@@musstard_1399they changed that in the ufc a while ago

[@kyranoneill6279]

I ended up with an eating disorder after 8 years of amateur boxing as teen. 100% does and seen so many of my old boxing friends go through the same

[@666Dreams]

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[@Monheima]

Many I know and myself gained A LOT of weight after leaving amateur boxing. I didn't saw my former sparring parter for 2 years and I couldn't believe my eyes how fat he had become

[@jacksonhagaman8724]

@@Monheima Did so after wrestling for 16 years

[@hrdstyldncngisbst]

Mine too. I'd say 2 or 3 of them are 5-10Kg heavier and the rest of us are obese :( seems like 30-35 years of age starts to push you to start losing that weight though. Many of us are "Getting back into it!"

[@Monheima]

@@jacksonhagaman8724 I think it's important to stay active in some way after quitting/leaving combat sport. of course it is another story when injuries are involved

[@strafer8764]

Mike Zambidis one of the best kickboxers ever was against weight cutting. Never looked emaciated in weigh ins. Had a large KO ratio and knocked out much bigger opponents. He described it as not good to deprive the body of nutrients and rush to replace them back.

[@skindred1888]

I mean it all depends on what the fighter can handle, and what sport. MMA relies a bit more on weight than kickboxing due to the grappling

[@GreenTreesAndFlowers]

“Resonate” not “resignate” it’s not even a word.

[@NDwhITeBoYZ]

Depriving the body of nutrients actually can make your chances of cancer and heart disease go down significantly. Fasting cleanses the body, but yeah to do it for long periods to resume normal eating afterwards definitely isn’t natural

[@tor3699]

@@GreenTreesAndFlowers ?

[@nebulanz8232]

Zambidis is a damn legend. Always in exciting fights, great to watch.

[@vasheldiablo507]

joe getting triggered about those fuck all captions was relatable

[@lukemurray4950]

Not really. I am not one to talk because I do it plenty with other scenarios but this is a classic example of getting annoyed over something small that doesn't matter.

[@heffe4257]

I hate that shit so much

[@RealmDesigner]

@@lukemurray4950 it does matter and it's annoying as fuck.

[@lukemurray4950]

@@RealmDesigner don't read them and just listen 🤦

[@nodical802]

@@lukemurray4950 you can’t not read them when they take up the entire screen. It is a big deal! Why do you keep trying to downplay it? Did you design the shitty captions?

[@liltroglodyte5830]

The fact that Sean can be 135 at 5’11 is insane… that’s literally being a stick figure. Just wild to me

[@eiima192]

I’m 6,1 at 135 fighting weight, not even just saying it but defo look like a lightweight. I am very comfortable at that weight and feel it’s worth it for the height and reach advantage, generally strength too as I’m very comfortable there

[@tacojohns3432]

@@eiima192 yup, 6'2'' 148 checking in (post cut from 160) -- most ufc fighters are closer to 10% bodyfat and could cut down to 4% if they really wanted to

[@sparksdrinker5650]

You used "literally" wrong.

[@mjkpanda]

@@tacojohns3432 dude if you're at 4% body fat, I can't imagine fighting well, that's just so drained

[@tacojohns3432]

@@mjkpanda it all depends HOW you get there

[@toddbertram6556]

I am impressed how much Sean has matured over the last couple years

[@tamie341]

Check out his podcast man. I was a hater for a long time but he has def won me over, guy speaks genuinely and brings his homies along for the ride. Tim is a legit mentor

[@Jorge-jk5xr]

@@tamie341 Why hate people you've never met? 🤔

[@jordanbabcock9349]

He got knocked out. We can thank Chi for that

[@stocksyere]

@@Jorge-jk5xr Because people are thick. And assume and believe all the MSM tripe

[@DannySullivanMusic]

i know! _100%_ correct man

[@poopstainhotdog1]

I totally related to Sean about going hard on a good diet for several weeks and then binging to the point of being really uncomfortable when the reward meal came. And doing it again when the next reward meal came around even though I knew how it would feel.

[@DannySullivanMusic]

for real dude. 1000% right!

[@ghagzor]

I've been doing it with cookies for a while. I'll do great and then 1 day a week I'll eat like 2 packs of fucking cookies and get sick and hate myself

[@Mikesmeyer88]

@@ghagzor bro I was doing this too. Come to find out I'm allergic to nuts.

[@cbaileychamp]

​@@ghagzoryeah i do this with takis and oreos. Really makes you respect a not talked about part of fighter discipline

[@mikesnow.]

I've done several weight cuts from 90KG to 80KG, or even from 85KG to 78KG once, always in a 5 - 8 week period depending on a few things and have found exactly the same thing with the eating disorder they're talking about. The out of control eating once comp is over, taking you back above your normal weight and not being able to eat normally for a while is such a hectic thing to deal with. My heart almost burst out of my chest sometimes when I was putting the weight back on and binging on all the stuff I had cut out, which is silly because generally I don't eat heaps of junk anyway, but totally cutting junk food out and being so low calorie drives me nuts. It's savage being 10KG under your normal weight and getting down super low on the body fat percentage. If you've gotta do weigh cuts, take it easy out there and when you're done, keep some much less restrictive rules on your eating for the first week or two, rather than just totally letting loose. 16/8 fasting for a week after comp isn't a bad idea, because that's super easy to adhere to if you've done stricter for a weight cut. See what foods you like that are high volume low calorie so you're not always having to eat tiny portions, that's a super important one.

[@definitelylostpodcast3564]

Developing an unhealthy relationship with food is so easy, people don't even realize.

[@wolverine1215]

My husband and I lost our son and my husband became very depressed and gained 100 lbs, he weighed in at 315 lbs. It took him 3 years and us having another son for him to get himself back together. He now weighs 160 lbs (he lost pretty much a whole person) and he did it all natural with no diet plans. Just walking, swimming and went vegetarian.

[@Joeytheknife905]

Im sorry for your loss 😔🙏

[@mustafawaseem9340]

He slowly shed off his grief. Hope u guys are ok now!

[@wolverine1215]

@@mustafawaseem9340 Yes, much better now. Thanks for the comment.

[@derekc4919]

Eww, plant based diets are poison. You really gonna come on a JRE video and promote plant based bull.

[@wolverine1215]

@@derekc4919 😅 Didn't say I was promoting anything just saying the facts. Don't cry about it.

[@okthennone]

Yes. I was a wrestler in high school and I still struggle with eating disorders. It’s terrible.

[@Luckiraq2005]

Same it sucks, wrestled for many years, than got into lifting heavy. At almost 50 I’m finally somewhat normal

[@rosenelehman2883]

Post ED (anorexia nervosa) female, 20 years later still struggle at times with bingeing and food obsession (also struggle with cycles of restricting and binging)

[@codinginflow]

I had the same problem after cutting down to a low body fat. Had some really bad 10k kcal binges where I was in pain afterwards. Your body really doesn't want to walk around without reserves (body fat).

[@joeldewaal4597]

Just thought I'd add this. Professional Fighters are one of the most at risk groups for developing eating disorders. A British study found that around 35% of develop some form of eating disorder, the deadliest of which is Anorexia, which has a mortality rate of 16% (Incredibly high). Stay safe and get help if you need it because you are not alone

[@StoicDivinity]

Lol

[@joeldewaal4597]

@Моgul МаiI shorts 🅥 bro why the fuck are you impersonating Mogul Mail

[@PowerSoilder]

So fucking true bro used to weight cut and it made me go crazy on food do not miss hitting pads in the sauna and one meal a day went to hard eating everything I could after

[@jordannorman1314]

That's very true but they also prone to alot of things. It's a very demanding sport on your body and mind.

[@TheeJakeJacobs]

They should do a study into wrestling, did it growing up and most of em would be eating ice chips and running laps in sweatsuits and garbage bags to make weight.

[@Therealthatkidtiptoe]

Way to make us feel fat on Thanksgiving Joe LMAOOO 😂😂😂

[@kylehotard2134]

Was gonna say 😂

[@Thatshow8223]

😂😂💯

[@kylehotard2134]

I’m still fucking eating 😂😂

[@kylehotard2134]

Shit bussin😂😂

[@czapnation]

😂😂😂

[@bigro4444]

I did Judo through high school and my 20s. I am ultra heavy and open weight even at my lightest. Even so going through cuts was rough. Food became a real comfort at times. Now I do BJJ and don’t plan on competing. If I do I know food will be the hardest part.

[@scrappy8ball]

The amount of food you eat also depends on your energy output when training or performing. Remember how in shape Michael Phelps was when he was winning those Gold Medals in Swimming? Look up the Breakfast he would eat everyday while training, it will blow your mind. Dude basically ate a whole Breakfast Buffet every morning just to give himself the energy to train. And yes, I know it's a little different than this conversation.

[@Ayan992]

His metabolism is crazy . U have to take it in the account . Everybody body is different

[@wethepeoplehi883]

I always wrestled up in weight in high school (I weighed 150 usually but wrestled at 172 and sometimes at 189 because our team didn't have those weight classes) but once a year during the county tournament I wrestled at my true weight (which is 145). I would have no discipline all year and then have to cut 7-10 pounds which made it so much harder.

[@GiovanniSevero03]

I did an 75lbs weight cut from 230lbs a lot of work this is definitely interesting I’d say habit is the hugest problem saying no to the things I would’ve love to have eaten and understanding how to change that volume of what’s coming in hence to match the target weight.

[@onceagaindc]

I had throat surgery in 2017, couldnt eat for 2 weeks. It was complete bloody hell. Lost 15lbs. After i got the green light to eat. I gained 30 lbs. Got super fat. Its hard to train the brain. Id eat and still be hungry mentally.

[@MoeFokah]

Glad ur better dude.

[@curefied]

cheers man glad ur better!

[@Im_telling_on_your_asses]

I had the same problem and the doctor told me to do less blow jobs and maybe even stop for a while. So you can take the advice or keep making excuses ya cock sucker! I tried

[@kristofferlodesjo5781]

Perhaps i can use your comment to half quickly and in a ELI5 way explain why. Each person is born with a different number of fat cells, each fat cell wants to be half full. Your genetic set point, how much body fat your body wants to have stored, is based on this. Lots of fat cells means more fat for the body to feel good, and less cells means less fat to feel good. When a person loses weight and those fat cells starts to empty the brain/body adjust the secretion of hunger hormones (ghrelin for hunger, leptin for feeling full). So now you've lost let's say 20lbs, and you now have a lot of fat cells that wants to be filled, the brains increases the amount of ghrelin and decreases leptin meaning you can eat a full meal and not feel full because you still have plenty of fat cells wanting to be filled. This of course varies from person to person genetically. Someone like Chris Bumstead can go year round on 10% bodyfat while someone else will starve and experience a drop of testosterone levels and sleep issues amongst other things at 14%, or 16% or even 20%.

[@inboundspies099]

meth did that to me lost 20 pounds in like 2 weeks n gained like 30 pounds in a month. pretty bad

[@JesusSaves71185]

Suga having a dead ass conversation about the seriousness of the munchies. 💀 😂

[@michaelsantoro170]

There's a definetly a commonality between all highschool wrestlers. We all know we developed eating disorders constantly obsessing about making weight- what were putting in our body and how it's going to effect our performance or or weight. Some became gluttons, some, including myself, still struggle with eating and maintaining an appetite. As someone who grew up in a half Italian family, food was always a big part of the day, so being the only person at the table not eating, and seeing the reaction of your family and friends- it definetly is difficult to justify. But when youre trying to beat the scale every meet, you have to perform, it just comes with the territory. Its been about 6 years since I last stepped on the matt and I still have a very unhealthy relationship with food, never binge eating, some times not even eating for a few days at a time.

[@ShadowTriadWestWind]

Was looking for a comment on loss of appetite. Both my brother and I have been training wrestling and jiu- jitsu most of our lives. My brother had worst weight cuts in high school than I did. He lacks an appetite and claims he never feels hungry or full.

[@Dplaysitcool]

But you get people, people who have even been on JRE. Who say fasting for days etc is great. Other people only having one or two meals a day. And say it's a good thing. I don't get the issue?

[@matthewlee8618]

It’s been about 2 years for me I was fine since I made mine less about eating less and just eating right. When you workout twice a day you burn so many calories that the only time you cut out food is about 24 hours before same with water and that helps you get 4-6 pounds down quick

[@matthewlee8618]

@@ShadowTriadWestWinddoes he still workout cuz if he doesn’t it’s a drop off in metabolism since you’re not burning calories anymore I had that happen too when going from 2 practices a day to being stagnet for a year I was not nearly as hungry as before

[@imtherpg-guy2121]

@@ShadowTriadWestWind vaping and not eating enough made me feel the way your bro feels, does he smoke nic?

[@stevestandley5571]

I used to be a bodybuilder. Similar set of conditions: long term dieting, then sodium loading followed by glycogen and water depletion right before contest, then carbing up the day of the show; the glycogen increase sucks all the subcutaneous water into your muscles. I had enormous weight gaining rebounds, like 40-50 lbs in a week, and my base weight inceased and did not go back to normal. I don't know that there is any study, however, establishing this cause and effect. My personal findings are, yes, dieting and weight cutting changes your body.

[@2moreminutes]

40-50lbs holy shit...

[@jonasjorgensen8759]

In other News, the sky is blue

[@stevestandley5571]

some guys gain more. it's a big health risk, for instance, for stroke.

[@AlWwW1]

I'm not even a wrestler or a fighter, but I've always had a bit of an obsessive personality, never really had problems with food or diet luckily. But after going through a couple of bulk/cut periods I felt a lot more impulses for food, especially when cutting. And the guilt of eating something you're not supposed to when cutting just made it worse. Now I eat just enough to try and slowly gain lean muscle, I know it's probably not the optimal way to gain mass over a certain period of time, but it's the one that makes me happy, that I can sustain and doesn't give me any dangerous dietary behaviors

[@DaleG281]

Would be great to see more food science/psychology content. Every person has a different relationship with food and would be great to hear more experts talk about it!

[@hihi-zc4hl]

I was a wrestler all through middle school and high school, and now I have Binge Eating Disorder… It’s definitely correlated

[@DZ302-Z28]

Yeah that's true. One of my good friends from high school in the '80s was in super shape as a wrestler but immediately packed on the pounds after he was done wrestling. I played football used to be a lineman, cut weight to move to quarterback and binge ate for years like nearly two decades. I finally got to a place where I have balance, do intermittent fasting, only eat when I'm hungry, and mostly stay away from sugars and excessive carbs. My weight's been pretty sustainable since and I don't constantly think about food anymore

[@BringThePizza]

We the same 😎

[@rand9861]

I feel like mine comes from me getting pneumonia and lost a appetite for legit like 2-3 months I could eat 10 fries and I didn’t wanna eat anymore for the rest of the days and soon as my appetite came back I start eating 4 days a day when I was eating 2 times a day before I got sick

[@robertcraig3343]

Sean keep saying 2 cheeseburgers 😂

[@barrymccarthy6514]

The best way to help people with weight gain and loss is to help them understand the connection between their emotions and their relationship with food. That in my humble opinion is about 80 percent of the issue and 20 percent is training.

[@zenippoland]

I’ve been cutting weight for about 6 years now and ever since I stopped doing mma due to health reasons my eating habits have definitely been changed for the worse. Like I can only eat one meal a day and not without working out and feening to lose weight and sweat it out just to keep at as certain weight. My disorder I got was getting too use to weight cutting so food ending up being untouchably gross

[@tinman4486]

My man you need to be more active, the more shit you do and more energy you burn the more food your brain will desire. If I sit at home and game/Netflix all day I won’t get hungry I have to tell myself to eat, but if I’m out and about constantly hungry

[@X11CHASE]

I too am in worse shape than I’ve ever been, this was after being in the best shape of my life

[@user-ex6uk6ye3o]

Saaame 🤧

[@VLLVN420]

I found the talk about the study interesting. I, myself, have been homeless in the past and dealt with food insecurity. I was gainfully employed, with two jobs, but still unable to afford adequate housing in my city. As a Chef, I was lucky... I managed to get 1 to 2 meals in a day while working at my 2 jobs. I was usually away from the shelter from 8am-3am daily, for work. When I returned, I would sleep... as best as possible with 7 other guys in my room... on various substances or with mental disorders. It took me 6 months of living rough to make enough money to afford a place. I still had expenses like everyone else: phone, gym, car payment, insurance, etc.... I also found my relationship with food change. It became fuel instead of this enjoyable experience (which is strange being a Chef). I would devour 2 cans of Tuna from the dollar store because it was protein and would keep me going. A past Me wouldn't touch Tuna unless it was Sushi grade and dressed appropriately. I haven't found myself gaining weight though... quite the contrary. I have maintained or lost weight. I also only eat once or twice a day.... I don't find myself binging, whatsoever. I can understand the reaction people had in this study, but I do feel that the fact that I was a "controlled" scenario and then they are "allowed" to eat as they see fit, a flaw... When you are homeless or starving on your own accord, your have calculated those reasons.. when it's forced upon you, it's different... I think weight cuts are a calculated risk... like my own to go to a shelter, skip meals... to eventually afford a place.

[@rukus9585]

This is the type of comment I wish I came across more often. Good for you, the struggle is real, and not everyone makes it out. But you did. Congrats my friend.

[@nolanhart7184]

Keep pushing brudda, I believe.

[@SacredFeline]

@Skeeter 33 Not knowing if you're going to be able to eat at night when you wake up in the morning

[@KoriePrince]

Absolutely insane to read this. I had almost the exact same experience. I was in a shelter for about 6-7 months my first year of grad school. I worked overnight 11-7 then would go to class all day. When I’d get back to the shelter I would just sleep - like you said - as best I could with 10 other men who were felons, mentally unstable etc. But I only ate to survive. What little money I had I took some to have a gym membership. I was eating once a day and training. I got shredded as fuck. But those eating habits and workout regiment are still with me now. I only eat to fuel mind and body.

[@gldnsunrising7761]

@Skeeter 33 When you cant afford food/dont know when or how your next meal will come.

[@bumpandsquish]

if you ever go to the horse races, you can spot former jockeys because they look like 5 foot tall bowling balls. they basically have to keep their weight the same as when they were 14 or 15 years old. i used to think that after they retired they were making up for all of the lost meals, but now i know it is a condition - physical or psychological.

[@edbryan3113]

very interesting

[@mikeJones-zo8si]

Is that why I see some nhl players balloon up a few years after they retire

[@Blastedyerface]

Just adding a new comment to help with the algorithm because apparently that is how we measure importance with viewing and consuming content in the data world these days. Also, good content, lol. Love JRE and Suga Sean O-Malley as well!

[@Glitchfaction]

Yes. I don’t blame it on the weight cut because I made the choice to do it, but I cut 23lbs in 3 days before a fight and immediately after the fight I wanted to eat everything in sight. I started cravin food and I struggled with it for a couple of years. I went from 170 to 270 within a couple of years. I wanted to eat all the time. Never had that problem before that weight cut

[@palatialpetals]

you just fast to cut that weight? without drinking fluid?

[@b2themc]

Dude same here I did a super strict cut over 8 weeks (I had already successfully cut for months before this slow and steady but I wanted to be "shredded"). Immediately after I started eating everything in sight and didn't get over the disorder for nearly 3 years.

[@josephbenjamin2934]

Bro exactly the same. I got down to 160lb… now 200lbs

[@Glitchfaction]

@@palatialpetals fasting, water pills, no water. I ate nearly nothing for 3 days and cut out all water and food 24 hours prior to weigh ins. Sauna suit and mitt work, in the sauna. It was pure stupidity that I did it but i was younger and thought I was Superman

[@Glitchfaction]

@@b2themc I couldn’t eat enough. I think mentally my mind was in a state of panic because it was freaking out it wasn’t going to get food or something. It wasn’t until I got crazy dizzy one day and started seeeing black spots, went to my Dr and found out I was 274 and my blood pressure was through the roof, that I finally said “I gotta get some help and get control of this.”

[@lavenderpants8695]

I wrestled and also developed bad eating/cutting habits. It wasn't until I started watching people online talking about creating a personal diet plan that is enjoyable to the point it is permanently sustainable did I SLOWLY start losing weight and maintaining it. Blood sugar, cholesterol, etc is all normalized now!

[@GBDazzler]

As a bantamweight that weighs 170 right now I can say yes. Darren till said it best your body is expecting a cut so you just wanna eat like your gonna hibernate. But it comes into other psychological factors for people stress, depression, anxiety etc.

[@skfoxjrxzz5051]

Geez, how tall are you?

[@skfoxjrxzz5051]

Do you mean Bantamweight in boxing?

[@GBDazzler]

@@skfoxjrxzz5051 5ft 7, im like a chad mendes/khabib build but longer legs than chad

[@GBDazzler]

@@skfoxjrxzz5051 mma

[@TheVanpablo79]

The Joe and Jamie interactions are perfect here

[@kiely4561]

It’s better than nothing……incorrect lol

[@ijasonxi1]

Getting super high and being a bottomless pit for food.. I know exactly what Suga Sean means lmao

[@raydawg6364]

Love Jre happy Thanksgiving everyone peace!

[@GrimKage]

As a young child I had a healthy relationship with food until I had to cut weight to compete for the local junior karate tournament. 23 years later I still can't stop eating sushi and now I'm training to become a champion sumo wrestler

[@MsJanetWood]

😅😂🤣

[@dougp9382]

🤣🤣☠

[@andyc9902]

You won the internet today

[@mewgiah8057]

The problem with Paddy is the long-term issues that might arise because of what he is doing. He is in his prime now so he can cut that weight quick. But as he gets older it won’t be that easy. The bigger issue though is the mental reason behind it. Binge eating or eating food for comfort is not good. After listening to numerous interviews with Paddy its clear he is over-eating for emotional reasons and not hunger. Because he admitted he often eats when he’s not hungry and doesn’t know why. Also there is a difference between stuffing your face because you love the taste of food. Like for example, lets say you are at a festival and want to try out all the fried food and desserts so you eat more then ud normally would. But that isn’t what he is doing. He will eat two whole pizzas even if at a certain point the food no longer has flavor - so eating just to eat. I think anyone who loves food and appreciates the flavor can understand eating like a pig. But what is the point of eating three double doubles In N Out burgers? Half way into the second the flavor and satisfaction from it is going to start to wane. So i hope for his sake Paddy starts to curve this behavior, or at least get it under control. No one wants to see him get 400 pounds after retiring from fighting and spiraling out. Even fit people can absolutely have this happen to them if they suffer from an eating disorder. And even in a short period Paddy has gained insane weight in the past.

[@jess_n_atx]

Hes gonna start packing on organ fat

[@EdwinSalgado999]

He said in Tyson podcast that in the next years when he starts getting bigger fights he gonna chill out and not gain that much wait when he's not fighting cause he knows the older you get your metabolism starts slowing down

[@stohneybaloney3586]

@@EdwinSalgado999 easier said then done

[@EdwinSalgado999]

@@stohneybaloney3586for us sure, but he's a professional athlete

[@skoshow8418]

I ain’t reading all that but the point of 3 double doubles is because it’s amazing from bite 1 to the self-loathing end

[@BrownBomber92181]

Paddy reminds me of Ricky Hatton. RH was a great fighter that had an incredibly short prime simply because he would eat like shit and balloon up to 50 lbs or more above his fight weight, and then rapidly cut weight before a fight. Fernando Vargas was the same way and look how short his prime was. Paddy will have a very short career

[@pacaddict59240]

I was thinking about Paddy reminding me of Ricky Hatton just this morning listening to an old Bisping podcast saying he used to balloon in between fights. It makes the weight cutting all the more impressive but I'm sure it fucks your body up even more.

[@iamsoup1210]

but paddy will keep cracking people till then. enjoy the show

[@jayo208]

Roberto Duran on the other hand is a HOF boxer and one of the greatest fighters ever in the modern world and is famous for doing the exact same thing and fought well until the end of his 33 yr career 🤷🏿‍♂️😏

[@BrownBomber92181]

@@jayo208 well it cost him in the rematch against Ray Leonard, he looked horrible in that fight. And he couldn't cut massive amounts of weight like these guys do simply because Duran had to weigh in on the day of the fight! He didn't have 27 hours or more to rehydrate. Thats why he kept moving up in weight

[@jayo208]

@@BrownBomber92181 THAT'S "why he kept moving up in weight"??? And so your logic/response is that it "cost him" in ONE fight in his 33 yr career?? Man isn't it just easier to humble yourself and admit your carefully selected examples are just that, carefully selected examples to justify your false narrative?? Smh.....Roberto Duran is a HOFer for crying out loud who campaigned at different weight classes for YEARS at a time smart guy.....he did what MANY boxers did back then which is blow up in between fights and then come fight time, work it off by working hard and sparring. He lost to Leonard the second time because he tried to fight the same way and Leonard used intelligence and boxed smarter....smart guy lol. Had ZERO to do with weight. MANY boxers, of his day and after (HOF boxers 👀), blew up in weight like Roberto did. But i digress, you obviously will say anything to push your narrative and I don't care enough to read another post of yours lol. So gotta mute your acct bruh and spare myself 😉🤫😒

[@goinhot9133]

Jamie finally standing up for his own opinion

[@shakti5357]

Incorrect

[@nodical802]

@@shakti5357 yet joe was wrong

[@JohnSmith-rq8hw]

@@nodical802 incorrect

[@nodical802]

@@JohnSmith-rq8hw*correct bad subtitles is better than none Joe is dead wrong and so are you bozo

[@Mr.Hyde_23]

@@nodical802 Words matter. Correct words in the right context matter more. Better to lip read than read shit.

[@ChroNx]

100% facts, never weighed in for a fight but strictly dieted for a long time and I have days where I just want to eat everything and end up over eating and can lose my progress I made in months within days. The mind and body are truly complex fascinating things💯

[@jacobcooper7064]

100% facts it took me 3 months to lose 30lbs and I got covid so I couldn’t workout for about two weeks and I missed gym for one month and I gained 20 lbs. it’s bc our metabolism slows down when we starve ourselves and bingeing kills me lol

[@robcanisto8635]

bro i go from Paulo Costa to Shogun Rua after taking an easy week; like I feel like I could see myself flab out meal to meal LOL .... uh oh

[@jamesdelaney9599]

After 2 years of prep for my master thesis, stat advisor had a 5 minute diatribe about the color palate I chose for the presentation … my stats were flawed but the color was the issue. Joes comment on the subtitles would make him an excellent academic advisor

[@bradleydahlgren6632]

@4:03 Jamie sassing Joe is hilarious 🤣

[@Jahndowe]

Damn I feel I have a problem with this. I’m a pro boxer been fighting for most of my life since I was 9 and one big problem I always had was eating so much after a fight. I’d blow up back to 20-25 pounds in a matter of weeks.

[@deebonash4487]

God bless you and your career. Stay safe man. Must really be tough… it’s just the whole factor that people want some advantage and weight cutting sometimes does that for some

[@DollarGeneral_Is_a_Plague]

I was a glutton before I ever worked out and dieted. Now that I'm 50 lbs down and in the best shape I've ever been in, I'm still a glutton. It's all about discipline

[@MsJanetWood]

Do you find that if you stop eating junk food, you stop craving it after a while? For example, I stopped eating sugar for a few months. After a while, I didn't even crave it anymore, until I had a tiny bite of cake and ice cream, and . . . it opened up the FLOOD GATES! AND, I AM RIGHT BACK WHERE I STARTED! EATING SUGAR DAILY! 🙄

[@DollarGeneral_Is_a_Plague]

@@MsJanetWood yep it's true. I was addicted to coke. I don't touch soda anymore. 0 sugar lifestyle is a good thing.

[@MsJanetWood]

@@DollarGeneral_Is_a_Plague Good for you! After the holidays, that will be my NEW YEAR'S RESOLUTION FOR THE YEAR 2023!

[@egeevirgen]

@@MsJanetWood Not after, you have to do it now.

[@MsJanetWood]

@@egeevirgen Tomorrow is the day after Thanksgiving! I'm sorry, but leftovers are the best! I CANNOT RESIST!

[@OfficialMcsweeney]

I love the rant about the missing text hahahahah joe you are the best ever

[@imrbrt]

I like when guests ask Jamie questions or to look something up. It's like a meme come to life!

[@brittneyrussell8158]

It would be so much better if fighters and boxers could fight at their natural weight but it only works if all of them do because there would always be fighters cutting weight for an easier fight, therefore every fighter needs to cut weight. I was 90kg and boxed at 72kg and it was horrible cutting the weight, but I couldn't box against people who where 90kg, they cut from over 100kg and were twice my size.

[@Auddawg90]

Thanks for explaining purpose of cutting.. I didn’t really know

[@fred3831]

Exactly, it’s criminal they haven’t done anything about weight cutting. IMO they should bring in average weigh ins throughout the year like they do drug testing and the decision what weight you fight at is decided by the UFC. Some fighters have done irreparable damage by cutting so much weight

[@peroplaninic2220]

​@@fred3831Or weigh the fighters before the match. Official weigh-in can still be a thing, but if the weight before the match isn't within the allowed limit, significant portion of the check should be cut and make it so that title can't be won if pre-fight weigh-in is not compliant.

[@fred3831]

@@peroplaninic2220 the issue with weigh ins directly before a fight is that you’d end up with fighters being extremely dehydrated while fighting which significantly increases the risk to brain injury

[@whacklp6120]

@@fred3831 So they shouldn't do it, they should go out there as natural as they can be. And if they wanna die still trying to cut stuff, let them die.

[@RockySchartner]

So hyped for this episode!

[@markbalogh9655]

honestly its a relief knowing he's doing a concussion recovery stack with his nutritionist. They need to do this more with fighters

[@maximsantacruz3941]

I lost 150 pounds. Naturally, cardio and diet. Now I eat like a fat ass still doing the same amount of cardio and now gym and I look and feel great. it's all balance. But listening to one's body and stomach is imperative, and yes, I'm a stoner and was during my weight loss journey. Water is up there too with helping metabolize everything.

[@ChristIsKing772]

good shit bro respect

[@butsirrr]

no weightlifting at all?

[@maximsantacruz3941]

@@butsirrr yes freeweights, and a 45 pound plate with a lil pilates

[@Saundersstrong]

Weird story . I ate strict carnivore for 65 days . I don’t eat that way anymore ….but dam it totally scrubbed out my food addictions . I don’t even care for sweets or carby foods anymore. I’m now fuelled more by business success, relationships and scaring the F out of myself with martial arts ..

[@justbleedprod.9414]

I have an uncle that went through heart failures and all sorts of problems from eating terribly all through his life. He turned his life around by going carnivore and it’s crazy to see his transformation. Now he doesn’t care about sugar and all that other crap at all, if anything he hates it

[@poetsrear]

@@justbleedprod.9414 You don't have to devour carcasses and slaughter discard to stop the cheliacic & lactic inflammation which is most likely the problem at hand. I mean if your problem is that your boat leaks, sure by not going to waters with it obviously nullifies the problem, but in reality it won't solve it. You gotta fix the boat.

[@justbleedprod.9414]

@@poetsrear well that’s dramatic. Our ancestors have been meat eaters for thousands of years but hey let’s put a stop to that because of woke culture lmao. You assume too much

[@tankeater]

I'm a 100% Disabled Veteran that got 21 skull fractures and was in a coma for 15 days. I'm 6'2" and went from 188 to 158 in my first month of the hospital. My Jaw was screwed shut, then I was on a non chew diet for 3 months. I skip meals at time. I have ZERO urge to eat. I do a OMAD Diet (One Meal A Day). Fasting is a miracle thing if you have O Blood 🤘

[@elasticillusion]

Fantastic clip. Headed to Spotify

[@Zosuh]

I really felt when Sean said “You get too high and feel like a bottomless pit” I be like a swat team raiding my kitchen sometimes😭😭

[@czapnation]

😂

[@Stipe_Tapped]

Lost 50kgs in 11 months, been a year since and haven't put the weight back on. The first 42kgs I lost without any exercise, just by eating as little carbs and sugar as possible. Limited my calorie intake initially to 400-800 and then as I got closer to goal weight I slowly increased daily calories...

[@senthilvelan544]

Wtf? Did u cut your limbs off? And by limbs I mean half your body?

[@Stipe_Tapped]

@@senthilvelan544 nah man, went from 125kgs to 75kgs. I'm 6'1, so as long as I stay between 75-80kgs I'm happy...

[@DapperCracker512]

Your caloric intake is 400 to 800 a day? That is starving yourself bro. 😂

[@Stipe_Tapped]

@@DapperCracker512 probably, still worked though... not dealing with any negatives to health from it.

[@razvanluso208]

400-800cal/day isn’t even close to your BMR at 6’1 lmao you’re a clown. FOH you goof! Also under 200lbs at 6’1 is a joke. You little psc boy! You’re not a man you’re a mouse!

[@qtpi6450]

"well paaaayyy for it, what is this" 🤣🤣

[@kingdom-art7672]

I loved the back in forth with Jamie

[@browniegames865]

After spending years cutting wieght for wrestling i started having horrible eating habits after i didnt have to wrestle anymore.

[@lavenderpants8695]

Exactly why I quit wrestling after 1 year. My coach was constantly pushing me to bulk and cut down to 140 (when I was naturally like 170 at the time) and I started getting bad bulking and cutting habits, and I could tell it was pushing me down a road of bad habits.

[@Roger-tv7sf]

3:09 facts calling em out 😂😂

[@TrentVivian]

This happened to me after I lost 15kg and got down to about 10% bodyfat. Every time I smoked I’d be spending $40 at the servo. Killed my bank account and I ended up at 15% bodyfat. It was common for me to eat 10,000 calories on multiple days over the first two weeks after I finished my cut.

[@mmasinator]

I didn’t cut too much weight in highschool wrestling but I walked around at 140 and wrestled 126. It definitely makes you only think about food after lol

[@josephfischer7623]

Dawg for a growing boy that’s a lot of weight to cut

[@mattrlaeno123]

I agree with Jamie. All i need with subtitles is to get the jest of the convo.

[@kevinlagarean4930]

I can tell you from wrestling weight cutting in high school, I have some nuances from my weight cutting days still haha how easy it is to throw up your food to make weight the next day for the second day of the tournament, hell yeah I have an eating disorder lolol

[@Fabi_87]

Yeah the extreme jojo dieting that fighters go through definitely leads to a lot of eating disorders. Especially when you start at young age which I did when I boxed and started crazy diets at 14 years old. Im still struggling I've been dieting my whole life and am either losing weight or gaining weight. It's this sort of all or nothing mentality that many fall in too. i wish coaches where better at teaching moderation especially with the younger competators because most coaches only seem too care about making the weight no matter what. This has effected the longevity of so many fighters careers and doesn't get nearly enough attention.

[@deadage]

Bro same ever since i started competing in jiu jitsu competitions and cutting weight my mentality about food has been so fucked up. Recently ive done really well at fixing it, but i still have a weird relationship with food. At one point my hunger was straight up insatiable, like i could just eat and eat and eat. I would always look forward to going to the buffet after the competition was over and would eat everything until it hurt. Then i would be back to dieting the next day because there was a new competition coming up. To this day i still weigh all of my food even though it doesn’t really matter.

[@mifegreen5960]

Do you ever wonder about weight cutting negatively affecting growth/puberty development?

[@deadage]

@@mifegreen5960 i think you were asking this question to the original commenter, but ill just throw my two cents in any and say that it definitely has to. Because as your body is growing and developing you want it to have an ample supply of nutrients to pull from so it can reach its most optimal state. Just make sure you are eating nutrient dense foods like meat, eggs, and fruit

[@mifegreen5960]

@@deadage im asking cuz i dieted as a young teenager off and on; never too extreme but i still wonder son

[@LeifCoffield]

I had a particularly bad weight cut for a fight 7 years ago and another (not as bad, but still not great) 6 months later. The effects of this honestly impacted my relationship with food for years as I felt like I was justified in eating everything in sight

[@eastonscott988]

I need to watch the full episode. Does anybody know if they discuss hydration testing for MMA?

[@malikcallen4437]

I saw the same thing in basic training, as soon as we had access to food after being starved I became food obsessed for weeks

[@xZOOMORPHICx]

I was 247lb on my 40th birthday. I'm 6 feet tall. I cut 92lb in 11 months and made 155lb. The last 15lb was not worth it. Even with proper electrolytes I'd wake up with cramps in my shins. It was the worst pain I've ever experience. I also lost hearing in one ear towards the end of the cut. I never gained my hearing back. Starving sucks.

[@angryman132]

Holy shit bro that was insanely irresponsible if you are losing shit like hearing bro

[@xZOOMORPHICx]

@@angryman132 FR. I'll never cut that hard again if you put the crack pipe down. deal? 😂

[@angryman132]

@@xZOOMORPHICx bro I'm like 3 percent body fat right now you got to try this shit

[@michaelman6700]

@@angryman132you got to be one of the leanest men in the world

[@angryman132]

@@michaelman6700 sounds like a man who has no crack, truly a man enslaved by forces he cannot comprehend, just fears.

[@BRLambert4]

My highschool always ran out annual blood drive during wrestling season. It was wild seeing the toughest guys passing out bc they had been doing everything they could to make weight

[@colleenbenson7755]

Having Paddy on to talk about his weight gain/loss would be an interesting conversation.

[@rylanoney4700]

when is the full pod gonna drop??

[@prestonphillips473]

Never knew Andrew Garfiled went to prison. Hope he's doing okay on the outside.

[@LJ-zl7qq]

😂 KZbin Eric Dubay

[@hitmarkler]

This episode was excellent! Joe seems to like Sean a lot. He even suggested that they go to an event together 😀

[@scottcoxworthy]

Bro Jogan and side show bob had a great podcast!

[@williamsoule9836]

Yo joe, good job. Keep up the good work.

[@blueyedevildarkness7649]

Would love to see weight cuts abolished in the UFC. Just fight at your natural weight. Being good at cutting weight should not be seen as being a better fighter.

[@Sensei_Brauk_Li]

Sean is a reall cool dude you can tell he’s a good person

[@BobSmith-vj5kz]

how? does one of his face tattoos say "i'm a good guy" ? (i'm watching low-res, so i can't make them out)

[@ReyPleitez-ic1ul]

Where can I watch the podcast

[@TracyII77]

I think a much better way to avoid weight cutting would be to take several weigh-ins over say a month or two and then average the weight to determine weight class.

[@alexjv1370]

I remember when my brother was a wrestler in college and would always place 1st or 2nd in state and that was for five years in a row. I remember the mental strain it would put on him and he would always talk about it and it’s a big reason why he doesn’t wrestle anymore and only coaches.

[@aaronchapman6994]

Hmmmmmm 🤔🤔🤔🤔anyone else smelling bullshit 😂😂😂 what name and state and let’s check the records u waffler 😂

[@jopan1363]

I watched my brother in highschool going to States and see what he had to do. Then he would put it on for highschool football. Terrible

[@McCandlessMike45]

I hope he gives his wrestlers some sorta of pep talk and encouragement since what he swore he would be never do again, he continued to push amongst his students.

[@aaronchapman6994]

@@McCandlessMike45 could you repeat that please 🙏🏼😂😂😂 as I have no idea what you’re talking about 😂😂

[@McCandlessMike45]

@@aaronchapman6994 I guess reading comprehension wasn't your strength. The initial (that's another word for 1st) stayed that "he had a coach that wouldn't wrestle or cut weight anymore" because of what it does to a fighter. then continues to state "that's why he only coaches" - meaning How could you quit a sport because of what it put you through, then have the audacity to "coach" when they themselves have admitted to struggling with the same thing they are making students suffer through. I hit you because they hit me. It's redundant

[@srford50]

Former college wrestler here I have ballooned to 310 twice, 240 is my natural weight. I was able to cut 60 to 70 pounds both times in less than two months. Not healthy.

[@CredituR]

I'm curious if either of those times when you cut the weight did you have any weeks where you plateaud at all? I'm wondering how fighters seem to either never plateau when cutting big amounts of weight or how they get past it so fast if they do

[@mikasasukasa4479]

jesus christ that's scary high in 2 months

[@arthurservilheri4311]

@@CredituR fighters do not plateau bcs they already have muscle mass,they just add a little fat,when you're not an athlete you have low muscle mass

[@CredituR]

@@arthurservilheri4311 I should have specified I meant this for somebody like Paddy who drops like 50 pounds fast most fighters stay in relatively good shape in downtime but Paddy actually gets fat for fun

[@garylewellen4241]

Sean great interview. I was able to learn how committed of an individual that you are. Keep kicking ass! Joe just wondering why you won't have David Icke as a guest?

[@Bluepickles333]

I don’t think it’s directly to blame but it can play a factor into people not controlling their eating. Just like a soldier with PTSD. Not guaranteed you’ll react to sounds and crowds negatively forever, but it’ll add to some discomfort. All of us have to use our mental fortitude to not this stuff control our lives.

[@poetsrear]

Not to refute your experience, but that's not the point here. It's not about people eating or not. The point here is that the weight class/weigh in system only few days ahead of the match is SICK. It is making already overdriven and overworked professional athletes playing with their lives. It is not healthy for a human to be at 0.5% body fat. It's literally a health risk. This should be scrutinized like every other health risking activity, like tobacco, drugs or driving. It is backwards that any organization can legally implicate a person to diet to near death condition to keep doing their job. And all of this is unneccessary. This procedure is unreviewed legacy tradition from renaissance era, where you could not reliably keep a record of boxers weights, so they had to weigh in just before the match, when they had arrived to the town with ox carts from the country town they were from and they didn't even themselves knew what they weighed and were simply happy to be placed at some division.... The sport has come SO FAR from something like that. The whole society has come so far. And it's not only martial sports; for example we still apply to university studies like we did in medieval period, LITERALLY.

[@onlymemphis8100]

Yes… I’ve been binge eating like crazy after I cut weight. I’ve had to intermittent fast in order to not over eat.

[@tyler2634]

Intermittent fast makes me over eat, when I have my one meal I’ll just eat til I’m sick

[@dandelion3391]

@@tyler2634 Eat slowly. If you don't devour it so fast then you'll be able to stop when you're full and not sick from overeating.

[@benrobinson9473]

You have articulated how I’ve been thinking about Oasdy Pimblet for a whole year

[@rtheprizeisright7323]

I think Mr. Rogan fans might want to hear more about fighters stories cutting weight when you have them on your podcast this was very interesting to hear a fighter talk about.

[@nah3193]

I resignated with that so much 💀

[@nightfighter7452]

Is it just me or have our grammar skills decresed in quality over the years😂

[@DrSeussTruth]

@@nightfighter7452 lol little kids

[@lordleo9047]

he said "resonated"

[@livestrongforever]

joe against Jamie made me cry

[@kalifaz2787]

Suga had to break it up 😢

[@vikalawa5301]

I think he was nervous because of suga the tennage sensation

[@vikalawa5301]

I think they were acting weird because most the time the its 40s year old but this time it was a younger dude

[@Mudcreekmedia]

My thing is, if you are the breadwinner of your family in any way. You should treat your own health like you are an mma fighter. A lot of people can learn awesome stuff from this guy.

[@markvann9347]

I've been eating once a day and only dinner for 6 years now. It was hard at first, I climb and cut down trees all day for a living. It's hard work. I'm lean and mean at 40, 6'0" 184lbs my weight hasn't fluctuated at all eating once a day. Plus I get to eat whatever I want for dinner.

[@likemy]

bodybuilders say to cut only around 1% of your body weight each week to avoid completely crashing your hormone levels and to avoid thermogenic adaptation (metabolic compensation to excessive caloric restriction)